One of the NBA's most intriguing feuds involves current NBA Star Kevin Durant and TNT analyst Charles Barkley. Here's the latest details. Hope you enjoy.
KD came to the Warriors when they were already on top. He ran as soon as the team struggled. Everyone cheers for KD. Steph came to the Warriors when the team was somewhere near the bottom, he brought it up to greatness. When it fell apart, he continued to carry the team. Once again, like the phoenix in the old legend, the Golden State Warriors rises again from the ashes.
@@jimmyjohnjuan they didn't fall though and KD nearly single handedly won that team another chip before getting injured again himself. Fuck you talking about?
I start crying when he said "let's break this down in 3 parts and show why Kevin Durant is delusional" 🤣🤣🤣. I guess when KD said do your research.....he didn't really mean that 🤷🏾♀️
Kd's problem must be the coaching staff a rookie steve nash and no respect from Kyrie then Celtics recruited their asst.coach to become head coach how lucky steph curry to be with Kerr guiding him same with Lakers with star players but their coach can't find right gameplan just like the Nets
@@audymingoa6149 KD dumbass problem Is listening to Cryrie . Point blank. Yall making this too damn complicated. He followed a dummy who didn't win outside LeBron
@@kampchin36 ya.. kerr took over the team mark Jackson built.. with using drafts.. no free agent signing... Kerr , no different than Chucky winning with the Tampa bay bucs
Don’t forget the fact Durant was on the Thunder team that had a 3-1 lead on those same Warriors the season before he joined them. That’s what makes it by far the weakest move ever. Imagine Jordan joining the Pistons the year after he took them to 7 games with the Bulls. Magic joining the Celtics the year after losing to them in 7 games in the Finals. Durant is just weak. Plain and simple.
Russ was pissed and had every right to be. The thunder and the warriors were evenly matched team. It was literally KD and Russ vs Thompson and Curry in the west until KD made that punk ass move
If Durant wants to prove himself, he needs to join a team that did not reach the playoff this year. Period. He said he prefers to go to sun and heat, it’s like a shortcuts to the championship in my eyes.
Difference is suns nor this heat team have won a championship. I think especially with the suns who I think he could take over the hump wouldn’t look as bad. If he won a ring with Phoenix it would be different than winning those 2 rings with a 73 win golden state team that had just won in 2015 and had a 3-1 lead in the finals.
Durant will never win another championship ,and I’m not saying this to hate on him. The problem is the nets have fallen apart, so they no longer have a championship contending team, but Durant is a top 5 player in the league, to any team that trades for him is going to have to give away a large portion of their team to get him. It’s not like free agency where you can go add to a good team. All he can do now is replace a top player on another team, and the nets don’t have to rush….he’s under contract for 4 more years….Durant, and any team trading for him, however, do have to rush, because he’s 34…so he has, 3 to 4 years at best, that he can still play at this level. Meaning, no time to build around him…wherever he goes, he’s only going to have whatever is left after the trade. His best shot is the warriors (only team with enough pieces, and picks, to still have a contender after the trade, and neither he, nor the warriors, seem interested in that) so I don’t see him winning another chip in the next 4 years. I think, at best, he could potentially sign with a contender in 4 years, but at that point, he will be 38. So does a chip at 38, while on a vet minimum, playing as a roll player, mean anything? Sadly, I think it’s a wrap for the rest of his prime.
100% that KD would not have a ring if he didn't play with warriors, I hope this could proof that all those MVP that they gave KD was a gift who really earn it is Curry since 2015, every championship that GS had won is because of Curry, and people who really knows basketball knows that I'm right
@Black Mason. No, you're wrong. Tyrone Lue said himself that they were more worried about Steph than KD. How many free dunks did KD get because two or more people were watching or running towards Steph? Why couldn't KD win without Curry, when Curry has proven TWICE that he can win without Durant? Durant has had quality teammates before and after Curry and hasnt won
@@blazedbeye3412 well, like i said KD was gonna get his avg whuch he did. Draymond said, "they would nit have beat the Cavs withiut KD" kD career isnt over with so theres still time for him to get another ring. After he left, he was injured for a season, 2nd season he basically played by himself and horn couldn't hit anything, 3rd season the lineup never stayed together long enough like Golden State. Now if they didnt need him then the should not have ran to him. If anything the warriors felt embarrassed for winning 70 plus games and then losing while up 3-1 in the finals. Thats why they got kd, to do to lebron what steph coukdnt do. And see wheres Lue game plan got them. Yall trask KD but i never once heard him say they coukdnt win a chip without him.
@@blackmason4373 trash? Lol. Lebron had to build a super team to beat Paul Pierce and your calling the dubs trash? He ran to the warriors because he knew he couldn't get past them....blew a 3-1 lead himself to the warriors. What about the 8 seasons he had before joining gsw? Why couldnt he drive Russ and James to the title in okc? Or the fact that the team (Celtics) that swept KD and basically held him down, couldn't stop Step? He has one....ONE.... finals appearance in his career without steph. Curry has 3 appearance and two....TWO....rings WITHOUT KD You obviously know nothing of what you speak
Bro I’m a warrior fan too but quit bein delusional. U were juiced when KD came to GS just like all of us and he was a big part in why we won those two rings. U don’t have to down play one person to bring another person up that’s corny. And plus if KD decided to come back again you’d be celebrating just like we all would be
Yea you don’t just come into an already great team and become the franchise guy. Steph been there for years. But kd was the best player fs. I wish he woulda stayed in okc.
He's right about players jumping on the bandwagon of one team so they can win a championship and then leave. A lot of players are like that anymore and it's pathetic.
Worked for Kawhi. Worked for Anthony Davis. It’s a team sport though and I root for my team, which includes the players. It’s less satisfying if some superstar shows up, gets a ring, and takes off. Like if I was a Raptors fan, how sweet would that victory really be? Not really.
Wow the hate for this man is so real. Barkley shouldn't be saying anything, we all remember him running to rockets to try to get ring. Barkley doesn't have any rings so he not qualified to tell someone the rings don't matter. When kd went to the warriors they wasn't on top. Cavs was remember. People need to understand without kd the warriors wasn't beating LeBron again.
It's funny that same energy isn't being used on LeBron James, when he played with Dewayne Wade, and Chris Bosch, and Dewayne Wade was driving the bus. And Dewayne Wade drove the bus several times because LeBron James was being dominated by a couple of bench players by the name of Jason Terry and J.J. Barrel. I don't see them talking about when LeBron James got dominated against little Stephen Curry three times. And how he is in virtual tied with Stephen Curry. With 4 rings.
@@edwinbrown2148 This isn't about defending Kevin Durant, it's about keeping that same energy when talking about only one person that done the same thing. Don't think you are admonishing justice on me for pointing out the truth. I am making it clear that Charles Barkley is staying away from one of them, when both of them did the same thing. But LeBron James is still getting away with getting more top talent on all of his teams.
@@hershelpogue1745 well yes, all though what your saying is true, what the response pointed out still stands. Lebron beat the narrative that he needed Miami to win , he did stack the odds for himself when making that move , but he made up for it by going back home and beating the same team who came back from 3-1 to that same Kevin Durant in those exact same circumstances.. it’s not the same, Lebron beat the team that drove KD to ring chase, the heat had already won a championship, but was no where near that level when bron joined, weak move from both stars but KDs move has no equal
The reason why the energy isn’t kept the same is because of one reason and one reason only. They didn’t win. The only year that D Wade was legitimately looked at as the best player on the team or the defacto leader. They lost lol. He admittedly let Bron take over. It’s not like when Steph let KD takeover because throughout the years bron played better and better while Wade got worse. Steph was the same with or without KD. Bron had to struggle to win against the spurs both years.
KD NEEDS A SUPER TEAM AROUND HIM TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP, unlike steph, lebron needs a super team around him to win championships, steph did not, who is the REAL CHAMP, STEPH case closed
The truest comment I’ve ever heard Chuck say. KD was not the bus driver, he was a VIP guest on the bus! Curry and the boys went out of their way to give KD all the ball he could get so he can feel part of the team and feel at home, but it wasn’t for him. No hate on KD, it is what it is. The real question is, could KD have won those chips without Curry? The simple answer is “No!” Could Curry have still won those chips without KD? The answer is “yes!”
KD was the bus driver and hecstats and finals MVP showed it. He had to because like Draymond said " They dont beat Cleveland without KD". They didnt go out of their way because KD was gonna get his regardless. And you might have to wait till the man retires to say if he cant another chip.
@@blackmason4373 those years at GS, whenever Steph was out they sucked, but when he was out Steph kept them winning. Just look for yourself 😂😂😂. Busdriver? You smoking dope casual fan.
@@gorcsauce696 you both are correct lol Charles did call KD the best player on that warriors team and also he has more freedom to this his thing with Steph and Klay
because KD looked unguardable but they were ignoring stephs impact on court because they hate curry more then. with kd and no curry they were like 50% win rate. and with curry no kd it was like 90%.
I understand completely what they mean when they say he got finals mvp but he wasn’t the best player like look at the spurs dynasty, Tim Duncan was the best player on that team, but did he win every finals mvp? No does that make the players that did win it better than him? No.
According to that logic that means Tim is a bus rider too most NBA champions were bus rider/driver but we don't criticise them it's only KD of which it applies to
KD is a 2x champ and no one can take that away from him. BUT he knows that he has to win that 3rd ring. In order to change the narrative that surrounds him, he just has to.
I agree with Charles Barkley. I been felt this way before Charles even spoke it. He never won a championship without Stephen Curry and the Warriors but Steph won without Kevin both before he joined and after.
How so? Draymond even said they needed KD to beat the Cavs. Let’s not forget the Lebron had just beat the Warriors the season before. Barkley is such a hypocrite, me must’ve forgot when he joined a old super team in Houston. I bet if the Rockets won that year, he wouldn’t have the same energy.
@@duanebrown21 Yeah Charles was done then when he joined Houston and we saw how that worked out. Plus, Draymond was simply trying to sell Kevin Durant and the public so that everyone would be satisfied and Kevin would feel needed but the fact remains they won without him twice, and he has not only never won without them, apparently he can't manage the team in a way where he would have had more influence over Kyrie Irving. I love Kyries game but his antics did not help Brooklyn.
@@charlesadams8018 Stop making up shit! He don’t have to cater to anyone. That’s the lamest thing I’ve heard all day. You don’t know what Draymond was thinking!
@@duanebrown21 draymond doesn't know a crap what he's talking about. That was what draymond says not what the management of warriors said that his opinion not the whole team of gsw opinion.
Interesting logic used to keep dumping on KD. He bought his rings. So did Lebron. Every ring he got was with a super team. The two in Miami were cheap. The one in the bubble was also cheap as the whole nba was not ready and most teams had guys playing halfhearted. The 2016 ring was aided by the NBA with some nice key ref calls and some injuries but that is the only ring with a little value from Lebron. Funny how the same energy isn’t given to Lebrons bought rings. Lebron is the greatest of this generation but them rings are weak too. Boggles my mind why he gets a pass and KD doesn’t. .
People always bring up gsw record from 2016 but when lebron went to Miami he Also brought Chris bosh with him. If Chris bosh was on the heat before lebron with dwade in 2010 they may have been a 60+ win team
I will always feel like 2016 was rigged. They couldn’t allow Golden State to dominate lebron like that 2 times in a row. Imagine lebron losing AGAIN to the warriors with a healthy Cleveland squad!!! Especially to a young Curry!?! Naw no way they couldn’t allow that. Lebron would’ve had too much mustard on his résumé if the Dubs pulled off that series. So in my opinion they put the Fix in.
The difference is Lebron is better than everybody else and most people know if he had a team around him he wins. Celtics were a super team. Rondo. Pierce. Garnett. Allen. All future HALL OF FAMERS. Lebron had an old Shaq lol. Went and got a good team and he wins. Durant had a good team with OKC and couldn’t get it done.
@@TJzWayyy so why did he lose twice in Miami with 4 allstars/HOF and only one “bubble chip” in LA? Those were great to good teams yet he lost due, impart, to his own mediocre play on both ends of the court. in that Miami lost to Mavs, Lebron was not even the 3rd best player on his team? Might want to reconsider those facts and amend your assessment above my dude. Lebron is the most stat dominant player in this era, but he has not built a team from the ground up for success has he? Which player has he mentored to be great? Which franchise has he built from the ground up to be a dynasty! We all know the answer to those questions. Lebron is great but he sacrificed team success for his personal stat success. No prob, but that cost you having the most dominant team of your era. GSW is the team and Stef Curry is the owner of this era as he has beaten Lebron to bits and owned he and his teams.
if KD rings are worthless than lebron still has zero rings as well! He hasn't stayed on one team without building a super team. even the lakers they missed the playoffs till he traded everyone for AD
Sure, but the thing with Lebron is that he's won a championship with EVERY team he's been on. Whether you subscribe to the ring chasing narrative or not, thats an undisputed fact. Lebron has been on 3 different teams, and he's helped get each one a ring. KD (while amazing) cannot say the same. He's a great player, but he's not a franchise leader like Lebron. When he couldn't get it done in OKC he went to Golden State (which was already a top team) and got rings there. When he was told that he couldn't get it done without Steph, he tried to prove them wrong by going to Brooklyn, and that didn't pan out.
The fact that he went to the team that was on top and beat him in the playoffs the year before is pure cowardice. That makes it so much worse than any other “super team”.
As much as I disagree with Sir Charles most of the time. He has a point on this one. But why he personally picked on KD, is whole another story. There have been few bus riders in past as well. But Kobe was definitely wasn't one of them. He and Shaq was combined together, in a mediocre Lakers team at the time. A bus rider is someone who joins a championship caliber team that has won a title already, and wins a ring with them. Certainly Lebron was one, when he joined the Heat. Drexler was one too, when he joined the Rockets.
Lebron joined a 7 seed Miami heat team that hadn’t won a finals in 4-5 years. What a stupid ass comparison. KD joined the best team with 3 all-star players including a 2 time league MVP from the previous two seasons lmao.
Lebron was not a bus rider...Miami Lebron drove that bus and became the bus lol. Also Miami was a #7 seed and hadn't won a Chip the year before nor set an NBA record for regular season wins....HUGE difference with KD
@@frankiestein78912 he made a super team idk why you Lebron act like he pick up middle schoolers and won a ring. Wade was there already who already won a ring then brought Chris Bosh to win a super team and got a whole bunch of role players that weren’t there previous years it’s not hard to understand
When you realize that most people who hated KD's move are Lebron fans, you start to put things into perspective. I partially wish KD didnt make that move because now people just act like Lebron didnt ruin the league first, but im also glad he did it because Lebron didnt have any competition in the East due his team stacking. People like to act like the Warriors move wasnt in RESPONSE to what Lebron was doing. Also NOBODY discredits anybody on the Warriors for actually recruiting KD, which is total bs.
as a knicks fan I could say we hated the move , no other team had a chance . I don’t really think it’s just Lebron fans that hated the move ,I could say golden state was the only Fan base that approved of this move And the same could be said about bron . No one would discredit a team for trying to get better ,especially one that built themselves from the draft .
I respect your opinion. You also need to understand why LeBron did what he did when leaving for Miami. The big 3 Celtics were too dominant in the East after adding Hall of Famers Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, who respectively, were both 1st options and superstars on their prior teams (Wolves and Sonics). The Cavs upper management failed to create a championship contending team surrounding LeBron to even make it past the Celtics. Overall, the LeBron decision gave freedom to all NBA superstars today. Maybe a little too much freedom. But to say he ruined the NBA is an overstatement. The league has been evolving and anyone can pretty much come up with a scenario from past eras that ruined the NBA. As for the KD situation, it just truly sucks knowing the fact that KD and OKC threw a 3-1 lead to the 73-9 Warriors; then in the next season, KD decides to sign with the same GSW core. At this time, KD was considered as arguably the 2nd best player. One may say that this move definitely ruined the league for the next few seasons.
Exactly! If LBJ makes a move it’s innovative and brave! If anyone else does the same shit… it’s cheating or meaningless and soft! Also…. LBJ is never held accountable for his fuck ups, poor leadership and spoiled bitch tactics like walking off the court early every time he lose. LBJ is a once in a lifetime talent but he’s not a good leader and he gets away with shit nobody else would ever be able to get away with. LBJ built that shit house in LA yet everyone blames the rest of the team. He wants to be the king without any of a kings responsibilities. It’s time for folks to stop praising LBJ for every god damn thing he does. It’s ridiculous
@@J9_20 str8 BS from you fella. The big 3 was dominant but the big 3 also was on the back end of their careers so excuses is what I hear. Also the Cavs won 66 and 61 games which means ur close u just have to keep working. Who wins 60 plus games then run to another franchise? The front office did there job it Sounds to me like lebron was entitled. Speaking of running to Miami, now that lebron had help with Wade and Bosh they still lost to the Mavs and lil bitty Jason Terry punked Lebum. Lebron also had help when he went back to Cleveland. Kyrie and Love was more than enough and even after Kyrie left lebron still had Love and which lebron failed to use him correctly. The 2016 Finals it took a twist of fate Draymond antics and Kyrie scoring the impactful points for the Cavs to win, and both Kyrie and Love were healthy in that Finals and they was still down 3-1. To me all I'm hearing from u BronSexuals are excuses and delusions fella. Lebron couldn't sniff the playoffs until Larry Hughes went to Cleveland. Lebron couldn't win his 1st chip until he teamed up with Bosh and Wade. Lebron never won anything without Kyrie in Cleveland 1-4 Finals Record. Lebron never won anything without AD in LA.
One thing I hate about the way people talk about these NBA super stars is that they act like they're the only one on the team. Like basketball isn't a team sport.
Kd ditched thunder, warriors secured 2 championships, ditched them, and committed to the net. Gut the team destroyed their future and looking for a superteam. I love his game but his drive to surpass the great status is bs. Just a lie. Kyrie, lebron, and durant destroyed many franchises.
Kyrie just wasnt willing to get vaccinated . Which is his god given right. And the courts also backed this decision. This administration tried to force it against Supreme courts ruling. Im not a kyrie fan. Im from boston. But I understand. They have a chance now. But will bail on their commitments.
Let's not forget that the Warriors couldn't afford 4 max contracts even if they wanted too when KD left the team. He even took less money to play with them for those 2 years and at the end of the day he had to grab the bag that Brooklyn gave him and Kyrie. And to be honest KD hasn't been the same player after the Achilles injury in the finals against Toronto.
Hey i get your point they would have made room to keep kd if he wanted to stay with gsw. He doesnt want boston, and ide rather keep jb. Hes not worth given up all they would want and i dont trust him to stay. Kd 1643, jb had 1543 as #2 guy and there is so many more points not to do it than to do it. He doesnt spell out championship. Gsw were a championship team before he got there and he hasn't done it sense. Is all im saying. Keep youth and future, instead of ego, injury, and aged kd.
I feel bad for ppl like Charles. Ppl see the millions but don’t see the depression behind the money. The wickedness and hate behind the money. Look up Charles Barkley and see why he hates KD it’s SAD.
How does a former player who couldn't win a ring tell an 2-time Finals MVP and champion who was also arguably the best player in the world his 2 rings don't count?
What happened to the old days when almost every team in the league had 1 or 2 star players fighting to get a ring? Now whenever things get tough they're jumping ship to make "super teams" with 3 or even 5 stars to win? Competition has taken a hit in the NBA. Just watch older playoff games, specially between teams that had a rivalry, they were battles.
Yes, and you could actually remember what team someone was playing for this week! Strange thing is, many of those superstar teams way underperformed. It's almost as if it matters that it's a team sport, and putting big egos together isn't always good. But then, I'm old. I got to watch Magic, Bird, Dr. J, compete. And, great as those three names are, they won because they played team ball. God, it was great to see, and, strangely, that's one of the things about GSW that got me to watch the NBA again. People who really get into baseball rhapsodize about great defense, as much as great hitting. People who love basketball go crazy for great passing, which requires unselfish and alert play from everyone.
It's called the AAU mentality where players go and play with a team that gives them the best chances of winning and a franchise that can offer them the best incentives to line their wallets. 🤫Oops did I say that ....LOL
@@throbins1 so help me understand, the organization can trade the players whenever they want. But the players supposed to stay loyal even tho the organization won't help the team get better?? If the organization can pay players millions of dollars how much more money do they actually make?? Sorry, did I just say that?
They added too many teams. Great teams were able to be built with 24 teams in the league. The bulls with Jordan were the last great team being built and then the nba included like 5 more teams and around the bulls 2nd 3 peat they added another 2 teams. During those 2000s if you had 1 star you’ll make the playoffs but shaq and Kobe dominated because they had 2. The league is the deepest with talent that I have ever seen at this moment.
Where have you been kd didn't win a championship for the nets He was swept by the celtics He joined the Warriors just to get the rings. He was along for a ride. He is not all that great, he just likes to take credit.
Chuck isnt hating, we all agree with him. If KD is one of the greatest players in the league, then why does he need to join a championship team that can win a ring without him lol KD broke the NBA for two years. There was no need to watch the NBA when there was one rigged team that you already knew was going to win. You aready knew the outcome.
@@fakename1656 they were up 2-1 with one quarter remaining when Thompson went down. They were never going to win that game. Durant doesn't even count. Raptors led the tempo the first four games and would have won 4-1 if igudola hadn't hit that miracle 3 at the last second. Not so black and white like you prefer to remember it.
@@fakename1656 In 3 years you will be hearing about another Raptors championship. They are one player away from contending. Best part is that player is Barnes. 3 years development and a sixth man, we got it locked for years. We building a dynasty from within.
Everybody got Kevin Durant wrong don't forget it was the Warriors who flew out to the Hamptons to give Kevin Durant the key to the bus and they had no problem giving him the keys to the bus
If KD wants to earn NBA respects he needs to Join the Kings and take them to the playoffs. Maybe they won’t win the chip but by just turning the team around he would gain so much respect.
I love chuck, but no matter what you say, whether they bought their rings or not ….they have them and chuck doesn’t have anything Chuck tried this route too late in his career, had he done so earlier maybe he would have at least 1 ring
Tried this route? Mf wanted to get paid he didn’t try shit. Compare the teams that chuck was in to the teams KD was in, if you cant see a difference just stop watching basketball and save yourself the trouble, rings are a team achievement not an individual one
KD was 100,000% NOT the bus driver on the warriors. He jumped on Steph, Klay and Draymond’s team and just got to cruise to a chip. And even KD knows those chips are partial credit
Yeah u don’t cruise on any team and win FMVP two years in row. I wonder why Steph, Klay, Dray or Iggy didn’t win that over KD. All them niggas who ride the bench and don’t contribute on the actual floor they’re the ones riding the bus.
Ya quickly forget that Green practically begged KD to join them when he got there everyone put they seat belts on and Curry played Robin. A chip is a chip Barkley just mad cuz he ain’t got one
@@20gangtay78 if kd wasn’t a bus rider then y he hasn’t been back to finals yet y he only went to the finals 1x in okc y he blow a 3-1 lead to the same team he went and joined I need answers 😂😂😂😂
@@kylonp7311 let’s see.. 1st year he was injured and couldnt play, last year he was short his 2nd and his 3rd best teammates against the then to be champions, this year kyrie was one foot in one foot out all year. Pretty easy answers to come up with if u actually think.
I get what the bus rider crap means but when you go on a team with Champ and potentially top 10 player and who already won and you can't win a chip, then you can't say anything to Durant.
That was 2 years after Hakeem and Drexler won a chip. Yeah, they were so washed they went to the conference finals in 97. They took down a young Garnette and Timberwolves team and the Super Sonics who made the finals the year before. Hakeem and Barkley were 34. Drexler was 35. They lost to Utah. Karl Malone was 34 and Stockton was 35. The Bulls won the chip that year when Jordan was 34, Pippen was 32 and Rodman was 36. Ring chasing is ring chasing. Stop using the old and washed excuse.
At least KD's tow Oklahoma City I'm going Barkley just quit on the 76ers getting drunk every night didn't want to play because he didn't have a superstar with him I remember like it was yesterday shut the hell up Barkley
@@Roy20476 …Durant is 20 at best. It’s obvious he can’t handle tough defense, he’s been lucky with the no-touch defense most of this era. And he didn’t prove himself at OKC. He’s never ever been the best player.
I love Charles, but he has a history of being jealous and trying to demean other players Championships. He demeans Kenny Smiths 2 Championships by claiming he did nothing but ride the coattails of Hakeem Olajuwon. And he even demeans Shaqs 4 Championships by also claiming he road the coattails of both Kobe and D-Wade. All this coming from a man who has 0 Championships to his name. First people talked shit about Curry by saying the Warriors dynasty was over because KD was the best player on the team. But now all of a sudden they're talking shit about KD by saying Curry was the better player on the team. People just want to run their mouths as if they know what they're talking about. Lets not forget that KD had to put up with Westbrick for 9 whole years and still somehow managed to get them to 1 or 2 WCF and a NBA Finals.
@@RyanC232 Ok what about 1994 and 1995 because Jordan wasn’t there, stop using Jordan name as why Barkley couldn’t win a ring. He had 1994 and 1995 but guess what, he blew a 3-1 lead on the eventual champions and joined them 2 years later he tried to make a superteam but he failed 😂😂
@@bosschello2363 yeah... Good points. Barkley is no slouch. He has his issues but he was top 75 and played with no other top 75 players until his sundown years. He did a lot. Just never won the chip.
I TOTALLY agree with Charles! Kevin Durant was a bus rider! Stephen Curry drove the bus for those two championships that KD got!! He altered his game in order to have Durant fit in to their system. Now, THAT'S a bus driver! Yes, he has done a lot but NOT as much as Stephen Curry!!! Kevin Durant is also a big time crybaby! Green calls him out and he wants out of Golden State. Now if that ain't a crybaby then I don't know what is! If it wasn't for Curry, Green, and Thompson he wouldn't have those two rings. And to call himself a god?! I mean, just how arrogant can you get! It's time for Kevin Durant to stop being so sensitive and get a backbone!
He had Griffin, Harden, Irving and Nash as a coach and all he could do was… well nothing😑 And he’s calling him self god🫣 KD would get exposed in Europe for the crybaby he is. Let alone be a legend in the NBA. He bought those rings that Curry sold to him and thats it. No leadership, no swag, no legacy. Just KDiva
KD was easily the best Golden State Warrior. That’s silly. He outperformed Lebron to the point where Lebron chose not to guard him the next year, a player at his own position IN THE FINALS. And he lit him up in the clutch, outscoring him 3X in clutch stats… so yeah *shrug*
KD is the best player on that warriors runs.. but that’s because Curry gave way.. he got his coz Steph was guarded by 2 people soon as he enters half court.. To Steph, it’s the team that matters first.. that’s why KD shined.. That being said, Curry was still the best player on that team for taking a back seat, even though he made KD the best.. if that makes sense..
Did you see his rookie of the year his scoring titles his all NBAs and his MVP come on the man played 10 years in the west against the spurs mavs suns rockets and lakers. He was drafted to the sonics the team moved to OKC he did everything he was supposed to do.. Where is Greg Oden ?
I always like how Barkley will take the diss from other players and HOF players that they just say they got a ring over him but he stay stating facts and stay true to it unlike other analysts who just speak out of there ass
Now I agree with him but coming from Houston when he tried to join Hakeem & Drexler if they would've won a third title when he got there I wonder would he count his ring cuz Hakeem was the bus driver on the rockets...so yes alot of Barkley points are valid but would also be valid towards him too but they didn't win..alot of Houston fans that was watching basketball then feel the same
It might have taken a hit, but they were on the same team. LeBron James is the rival and he has taken an even bigger hit than Kevin Durant. Because Stephen Curry has 4 rings and is his contemporary. How on your watch does a stat driven narrative player like LeBron James let little Stephen Curry catch him in rings and now by all standards a virtual tied. How is LeBron James still ranked above Stephen Curry, when LeBron James had all the help to achieve what he got, and let so many players eat on his watch.
@@brendanbloom3366 nah Steph deserves at least one of those...warriors had better record with Steph in and KD out than with KD in and Curry out, that speaks for itself
@@benndarayta9156 that's regular season and no it doesn't speak for itself. Kd was injured midseason and Iggy a gs mainstay was backup sf. Curry was injured when gs was locked as 2nd seed and other teams were fighting for seeding. Green was also injured and the backup pg was quin cook who was called up from the G league. Curry did not come close to deserving either FMVP 2017 kd averaged way more pts in way better efficiency while averaging more rebounds and playing way better defense and being gs most clutch player in the 4th quarters. 2018 kd had more pts on way better efficiency, more rebounds, more assists, less turnovers, and played way better defense. Kd tried to get curry FMVP letting him take way more shots but kd was still way better.
At this point the NBA should just break up every team, every player, every year. Every team get to pick their players like in fantasy. There aren't enough players on the court of a game per team for basketball to be run fairly on a professional level anymore.
Barkley are right these players joining super teams that didn’t really need them to win a championship is weak that’s the case Barkley could’ve join the bulls and win one with mj in the 90s
You can't take the man's rings from him Charles. Unlike you he actually won regardless of how he got them. I felt the same way when the other teams assembled and won. Sixers got Moses. Does that mean Docs ring not real? Hell no! He earned it by the play he been doing for years. With that said he still should have that need to win with a team built around him, yes I agree, but I would never disrespect his rings, he still played hard to get them.
Dr. J never went anywhere. He tried to win with whoever they gave him!!! Back in the day the first player to jump ship trying to win was Barkley when joined Houston!! Mahlone did it with the Lakers and would've won if he didn't get hurt. He took a million bucks to make room for Gary Payton who didn't do shit.
@@khazak-yaohgad5662 everything is just opinions and mine is simple he was at that time the 2nd best player in the league. He joined the 3rd best player in the league to win plus the same person that beat him..... no respect for his rings at all.....bus rider
@@KennyMoe7mile They accepted him on the team and now he a bus rider? I'm a Sixer / Golden State fan. They won with him on the team. He left for whatever reason. Name are kid games. Dubs were angry because of how he left. Yeah it feels like I got them and I'm out. He and Green got into and he left. If he had stayed they would be talking about how it's so unfair they stacked they team. It's always going to be something. The man is in Golden State books and Golden State put him there. With that said, he makes a lot of bad decisions. I thought leaving OKC was weak, joining the Dubs smart but weak because the could not beat them. Then you join your rival, weak again. But how much of a difference is it when you have the best team and winning championships already and you go out and get the best rebounder in the game so you can win more championships? It's all in the game! And i know what an opinion is thank you.
Disagree with Charles, it takes a team to win, according to Charles, Pippen, Rodman, Kareem just to name a few, their rings don’t count because they were not the best players in their teams…it’s asinine to say that, without Durant GS wouldn’t win those 2 rings he was their best player
Like Draymond, I agree the GS doesn't get the 2 chips without Durant. But that's not the conversation..... It's actually, would KD have 2 rings with GS? I think No because he couldn't get past GS.
It really brakes my heart to see the treatment towards KD even though some of it could be true, But.. Nobody would say that Lebron did something similar when he came to the Heat. And during the years Charles Barkley was playing, when they really played hard, Chuck would’ve never pushed to have the player who was giving him a hard time on the floor to make it easier for him to win, that’s was Lebron did with Draymond Green, and a “scholar of the game” that Barkley is knows that. If you’re going to criticize KD , be a man and do the same with LBJ.
Sometimes it's not the one indiviual it's the teams around him, you have to have role players to help and have the same thing in mind, the will to win a championship.
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KD came to the Warriors when they were already on top. He ran as soon as the team struggled. Everyone cheers for KD. Steph came to the Warriors when the team was somewhere near the bottom, he brought it up to greatness. When it fell apart, he continued to carry the team. Once again, like the phoenix in the old legend, the Golden State Warriors rises again from the ashes.
That's what so great a out GS. There 3 main guy were drafted and developed there and became champs.
So true
@@ShaneAlan1 U like KD cause u had a taste of how big he is.
@@jimmyjohnjuan they didn't fall though and KD nearly single handedly won that team another chip before getting injured again himself. Fuck you talking about?
warriors were in fact the worst team n the league when they drafted steph lol
I start crying when he said "let's break this down in 3 parts and show why Kevin Durant is delusional" 🤣🤣🤣. I guess when KD said do your research.....he didn't really mean that 🤷🏾♀️
Kd's problem must be the coaching staff a rookie steve nash and no respect from Kyrie then Celtics recruited their asst.coach to become head coach how lucky steph curry to be with Kerr guiding him same with Lakers with star players but their coach can't find right gameplan just like the Nets
Steve Kerr was a rookie as a Head Coach also at GSW wasn’t he?
I read your comment before hearing him say that and it was so much funnier. You were right. He says it so blase blase....okkkk....
@@audymingoa6149 KD dumbass problem Is listening to Cryrie . Point blank. Yall making this too damn complicated. He followed a dummy who didn't win outside LeBron
@@kampchin36 ya.. kerr took over the team mark Jackson built.. with using drafts.. no free agent signing...
Kerr , no different than Chucky winning with the Tampa bay bucs
Don’t forget the fact Durant was on the Thunder team that had a 3-1 lead on those same Warriors the season before he joined them. That’s what makes it by far the weakest move ever. Imagine Jordan joining the Pistons the year after he took them to 7 games with the Bulls. Magic joining the Celtics the year after losing to them in 7 games in the Finals. Durant is just weak. Plain and simple.
And then Russ went all bonehead mode
@@republikadugave420 can’t help but feel bad for Russ. KD did him dirty
Facts!!! Weakest of them all!
Say no more my friend, that says it all...
Russ was pissed and had every right to be. The thunder and the warriors were evenly matched team. It was literally KD and Russ vs Thompson and Curry in the west until KD made that punk ass move
If Durant wants to prove himself, he needs to join a team that did not reach the playoff this year. Period. He said he prefers to go to sun and heat, it’s like a shortcuts to the championship in my eyes.
Difference is suns nor this heat team have won a championship. I think especially with the suns who I think he could take over the hump wouldn’t look as bad. If he won a ring with Phoenix it would be different than winning those 2 rings with a 73 win golden state team that had just won in 2015 and had a 3-1 lead in the finals.
Durant will never win another championship ,and I’m not saying this to hate on him. The problem is the nets have fallen apart, so they no longer have a championship contending team, but Durant is a top 5 player in the league, to any team that trades for him is going to have to give away a large portion of their team to get him. It’s not like free agency where you can go add to a good team. All he can do now is replace a top player on another team, and the nets don’t have to rush….he’s under contract for 4 more years….Durant, and any team trading for him, however, do have to rush, because he’s 34…so he has, 3 to 4 years at best, that he can still play at this level. Meaning, no time to build around him…wherever he goes, he’s only going to have whatever is left after the trade. His best shot is the warriors (only team with enough pieces, and picks, to still have a contender after the trade, and neither he, nor the warriors, seem interested in that) so I don’t see him winning another chip in the next 4 years. I think, at best, he could potentially sign with a contender in 4 years, but at that point, he will be 38. So does a chip at 38, while on a vet minimum, playing as a roll player, mean anything? Sadly, I think it’s a wrap for the rest of his prime.
Funny thing is LeBron want held to that standard
Exactly
@@sethrockwood I didn’t know durant was 44 years old damn lol
I keep replay the first 30 seconds for like 20 times 😄. Thank you Sir Charles Barkley for speaking out my opinion for years
It's hilarious 😂
100% that KD would not have a ring if he didn't play with warriors, I hope this could proof that all those MVP that they gave KD was a gift who really earn it is Curry since 2015, every championship that GS had won is because of Curry, and people who really knows basketball knows that I'm right
No, youre wrong. Those finals whete KD took his foot off the gas to feed Curry but he kept missing his shots.
@Black Mason. No, you're wrong. Tyrone Lue said himself that they were more worried about Steph than KD. How many free dunks did KD get because two or more people were watching or running towards Steph? Why couldn't KD win without Curry, when Curry has proven TWICE that he can win without Durant? Durant has had quality teammates before and after Curry and hasnt won
@@blazedbeye3412 well, like i said KD was gonna get his avg whuch he did. Draymond said, "they would nit have beat the Cavs withiut KD" kD career isnt over with so theres still time for him to get another ring.
After he left, he was injured for a season, 2nd season he basically played by himself and horn couldn't hit anything, 3rd season the lineup never stayed together long enough like Golden State.
Now if they didnt need him then the should not have ran to him. If anything the warriors felt embarrassed for winning 70 plus games and then losing while up 3-1 in the finals. Thats why they got kd, to do to lebron what steph coukdnt do. And see wheres Lue game plan got them. Yall trask KD but i never once heard him say they coukdnt win a chip without him.
@@blackmason4373 trash? Lol.
Lebron had to build a super team to beat Paul Pierce and your calling the dubs trash?
He ran to the warriors because he knew he couldn't get past them....blew a 3-1 lead himself to the warriors.
What about the 8 seasons he had before joining gsw? Why couldnt he drive Russ and James to the title in okc?
Or the fact that the team (Celtics) that swept KD and basically held him down, couldn't stop Step?
He has one....ONE.... finals appearance in his career without steph. Curry has 3 appearance and two....TWO....rings WITHOUT KD
You obviously know nothing of what you speak
Bro I’m a warrior fan too but quit bein delusional. U were juiced when KD came to GS just like all of us and he was a big part in why we won those two rings. U don’t have to down play one person to bring another person up that’s corny. And plus if KD decided to come back again you’d be celebrating just like we all would be
Agree with Barkley ….. yes Kevin is good but Curry is a good leader and not all have that quality
But draymond is the warriors leader.
Curry led them to the finals
Kd was the best player no doubt💀but I do agree he is a better leader
Yea you don’t just come into an already great team and become the franchise guy. Steph been there for years. But kd was the best player fs. I wish he woulda stayed in okc.
Steph is my favorite player all time. The joy he plays with is contagious.
Hahahahaha
It's that funny?
You only seen ball for 6 years. Your views don't count
Lmfao he is not a real ball player lmfao
He’s by far my favorite my favorite modern player and top 5 behind bird magic mj and Kobe but he’s tied with kobe
He's right about players jumping on the bandwagon of one team so they can win a championship and then leave. A lot of players are like that anymore and it's pathetic.
Worked for Kawhi. Worked for Anthony Davis. It’s a team sport though and I root for my team, which includes the players. It’s less satisfying if some superstar shows up, gets a ring, and takes off. Like if I was a Raptors fan, how sweet would that victory really be? Not really.
Tim Legler made a more accurate and fair analogy when he said that KD was the bus driver, but Steph had the license to the bus.
Oh my!!
Facts
@SmoothSavage This the one 🎯!
Agreed
Tim Legler the goat on espn. He should have the screen time Kendrick Perkins has.
KD is a great and athletic basketball player! His problem is what he has between his ears...
The Achilles, metaphorically and physically.
@@alexanderpaulino1995 I don't think you know where in the body the achilles tendon is located lol. Hint: it's not between the ears.
Yo, that Coming to America "he ain't lying" cut in did me in 😂😂😂
Wow the hate for this man is so real. Barkley shouldn't be saying anything, we all remember him running to rockets to try to get ring. Barkley doesn't have any rings so he not qualified to tell someone the rings don't matter. When kd went to the warriors they wasn't on top. Cavs was remember. People need to understand without kd the warriors wasn't beating LeBron again.
It's funny that same energy isn't being used on LeBron James, when he played with Dewayne Wade, and Chris Bosch, and Dewayne Wade was driving the bus. And Dewayne Wade drove the bus several times because LeBron James was being dominated by a couple of bench players by the name of Jason Terry and J.J. Barrel. I don't see them talking about when LeBron James got dominated against little Stephen Curry three times. And how he is in virtual tied with Stephen Curry. With 4 rings.
Lebron won 2 rings outside of Miami, Kd won 0 rings outside of golden state use your brain before you type paragraphs.
Plus golden state won 2 titles without him so defending KD just makes you look foolish.
@@edwinbrown2148 This isn't about defending Kevin Durant, it's about keeping that same energy when talking about only one person that done the same thing. Don't think you are admonishing justice on me for pointing out the truth. I am making it clear that Charles Barkley is staying away from one of them, when both of them did the same thing. But LeBron James is still getting away with getting more top talent on all of his teams.
@@hershelpogue1745 well yes, all though what your saying is true, what the response pointed out still stands. Lebron beat the narrative that he needed Miami to win , he did stack the odds for himself when making that move , but he made up for it by going back home and beating the same team who came back from 3-1 to that same Kevin Durant in those exact same circumstances.. it’s not the same, Lebron beat the team that drove KD to ring chase, the heat had already won a championship, but was no where near that level when bron joined, weak move from both stars but KDs move has no equal
The reason why the energy isn’t kept the same is because of one reason and one reason only. They didn’t win. The only year that D Wade was legitimately looked at as the best player on the team or the defacto leader. They lost lol. He admittedly let Bron take over. It’s not like when Steph let KD takeover because throughout the years bron played better and better while Wade got worse. Steph was the same with or without KD. Bron had to struggle to win against the spurs both years.
KD NEEDS A SUPER TEAM AROUND HIM TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP, unlike steph, lebron needs a super team around him to win championships, steph did not, who is the REAL CHAMP, STEPH case closed
LeBron?
Lebron needs a super team what are u talking about
@@nellydavis7645 thank u...that's why I said his name with the ? Mark
Ha Ha Ha Ha Steph 56th all time in scoring 59th all time in assists Steph the real CHUMP
@@diannewallace4829 he dont have to score 50 pts a game like lebron, because he has a great shooting team around him
Man i didn't want to hear dude talking I was expecting to hear sir Charles Barkley
The truest comment I’ve ever heard Chuck say. KD was not the bus driver, he was a VIP guest on the bus! Curry and the boys went out of their way to give KD all the ball he could get so he can feel part of the team and feel at home, but it wasn’t for him. No hate on KD, it is what it is. The real question is, could KD have won those chips without Curry? The simple answer is “No!” Could Curry have still won those chips without KD? The answer is “yes!”
KD was the bus driver and hecstats and finals MVP showed it. He had to because like Draymond said " They dont beat Cleveland without KD".
They didnt go out of their way because KD was gonna get his regardless.
And you might have to wait till the man retires to say if he cant another chip.
@@blackmason4373 Aaaaaaaa
@@blackmason4373 those years at GS, whenever Steph was out they sucked, but when he was out Steph kept them winning. Just look for yourself 😂😂😂. Busdriver? You smoking dope casual fan.
When KD was on the Warriors Barkley would call him the best player on that warriors 🤣🤣🤣
Well Steph gets him hella open and his his abilities he would be the best. 🤣
@@gorcsauce696 you both are correct lol Charles did call KD the best player on that warriors team and also he has more freedom to this his thing with Steph and Klay
KD was definitely the best player when he was with GSW, He gets discredited by Curry fanboys a lot.
@@dynamic6645 And Lebron fanboys lol.
because KD looked unguardable but they were ignoring stephs impact on court because they hate curry more then.
with kd and no curry they were like 50% win rate.
and with curry no kd it was like 90%.
Come on man. KD going to GSW was the worst reflection of what basketball has become today.
Bruh! Thank you for making this video!🙏
I understand completely what they mean when they say he got finals mvp but he wasn’t the best player like look at the spurs dynasty, Tim Duncan was the best player on that team, but did he win every finals mvp? No does that make the players that did win it better than him? No.
They were the best player in that finals. That's why they won the finals MVP
if Tim was the best he would've won the MVP
Only haters say he wasnt the best player... Ask Curry who he thinks is the best
According to that logic that means Tim is a bus rider too most NBA champions were bus rider/driver but we don't criticise them it's only KD of which it applies to
When they did the office bus scene with KD face and the rest of the nets I was dying.
Excellent intel, and post.
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Those two rings don't count for Curry if they don't count for KD.
Chuck I'm 1000 percent with you on this 10000000 % your telling truth
Yes idc about any other part of that quote. But calling yourself a god, definitely bugging.
Nice to include those slow motion videos of him travelling. Dribbling is now optional in this league
KD is a 2x champ and no one can take that away from him. BUT he knows that he has to win that 3rd ring. In order to change the narrative that surrounds him, he just has to.
Hes not a champion yet!
@@bigcity3865 yes he is.
He's only a champ because of his, if you can't beat them then join them mentality.
@@shawn5780 That’s why he gotta win that 3rd ring. To shut people like us up
None of Lebron's Superteam rings doesn't count or that bubble gum ring so KD shouldn't be ashamed
But Uncle Charles Doesn't have a Ring 🤣🤣🤣
no rings> the rings kd has
He would if he did what Kevin did. And that's the point
@@ForEducationalPurposesOnly tf you talkin about, he joined a superteam in the rockets
I agree with Charles Barkley. I been felt this way before Charles even spoke it. He never won a championship without Stephen Curry and the Warriors but Steph won without Kevin both before he joined and after.
How so? Draymond even said they needed KD to beat the Cavs. Let’s not forget the Lebron had just beat the Warriors the season before. Barkley is such a hypocrite, me must’ve forgot when he joined a old super team in Houston. I bet if the Rockets won that year, he wouldn’t have the same energy.
@@duanebrown21 Yeah Charles was done then when he joined Houston and we saw how that worked out. Plus, Draymond was simply trying to sell Kevin Durant and the public so that everyone would be satisfied and Kevin would feel needed but the fact remains they won without him twice, and he has not only never won without them, apparently he can't manage the team in a way where he would have had more influence over Kyrie Irving. I love Kyries game but his antics did not help Brooklyn.
@@charlesadams8018 Stop making up shit! He don’t have to cater to anyone. That’s the lamest thing I’ve heard all day. You don’t know what Draymond was thinking!
@@duanebrown21 draymond doesn't know a crap what he's talking about. That was what draymond says not what the management of warriors said that his opinion not the whole team of gsw opinion.
@@dawn78145 Yeah ok, let you tell it. Draymond was the one who recruited KD. You sound foolish.
Chuck tried joining a super team to get a ring and still didn't get one. He had no room to talk.
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Interesting logic used to keep dumping on KD. He bought his rings. So did Lebron. Every ring he got was with a super team. The two in Miami were cheap. The one in the bubble was also cheap as the whole nba was not ready and most teams had guys playing halfhearted. The 2016 ring was aided by the NBA with some nice key ref calls and some injuries but that is the only ring with a little value from Lebron.
Funny how the same energy isn’t given to Lebrons bought rings. Lebron is the greatest of this generation but them rings are weak too. Boggles my mind why he gets a pass and KD doesn’t. .
People always bring up gsw record from 2016 but when lebron went to Miami he Also brought Chris bosh with him. If Chris bosh was on the heat before lebron with dwade in 2010 they may have been a 60+ win team
I will always feel like 2016 was rigged. They couldn’t allow Golden State to dominate lebron like that 2 times in a row. Imagine lebron losing AGAIN to the warriors with a healthy Cleveland squad!!! Especially to a young Curry!?! Naw no way they couldn’t allow that. Lebron would’ve had too much mustard on his résumé if the Dubs pulled off that series. So in my opinion they put the Fix in.
@@MaxPotentialGreatness makes no sense. He lost in 2017 and 2018 back to back…
The difference is Lebron is better than everybody else and most people know if he had a team around him he wins. Celtics were a super team. Rondo. Pierce. Garnett. Allen. All future HALL OF FAMERS. Lebron had an old Shaq lol. Went and got a good team and he wins. Durant had a good team with OKC and couldn’t get it done.
@@TJzWayyy so why did he lose twice in Miami with 4 allstars/HOF and only one “bubble chip” in LA? Those were great to good teams yet he lost due, impart, to his own mediocre play on both ends of the court. in that Miami lost to Mavs, Lebron was not even the 3rd best player on his team?
Might want to reconsider those facts and amend your assessment above my dude. Lebron is the most stat dominant player in this era, but he has not built a team from the ground up for success has he? Which player has he mentored to be great? Which franchise has he built from the ground up to be a dynasty! We all know the answer to those questions. Lebron is great but he sacrificed team success for his personal stat success. No prob, but that cost you having the most dominant team of your era. GSW is the team and Stef Curry is the owner of this era as he has beaten Lebron to bits and owned he and his teams.
if KD rings are worthless than lebron still has zero rings as well! He hasn't stayed on one team without building a super team. even the lakers they missed the playoffs till he traded everyone for AD
Sure, but the thing with Lebron is that he's won a championship with EVERY team he's been on. Whether you subscribe to the ring chasing narrative or not, thats an undisputed fact. Lebron has been on 3 different teams, and he's helped get each one a ring.
KD (while amazing) cannot say the same. He's a great player, but he's not a franchise leader like Lebron. When he couldn't get it done in OKC he went to Golden State (which was already a top team) and got rings there. When he was told that he couldn't get it done without Steph, he tried to prove them wrong by going to Brooklyn, and that didn't pan out.
Facts
@@CornerRoom_Thoughts facts In Jeues Christ king Christ amen amen Christ amen hallelujah hallelujah
Lebron’s rings are still more valuable than KD
@@21BAGAMAY no sir only to the bronsexuals
Facts. Some media and fans are hiping up good players to MVP players, when theyre not
The fact that he went to the team that was on top and beat him in the playoffs the year before is pure cowardice. That makes it so much worse than any other “super team”.
thank you. say it loud for the guys at the back 🤔
As much as I disagree with Sir Charles most of the time. He has a point on this one. But why he personally picked on KD, is whole another story. There have been few bus riders in past as well. But Kobe was definitely wasn't one of them. He and Shaq was combined together, in a mediocre Lakers team at the time. A bus rider is someone who joins a championship caliber team that has won a title already, and wins a ring with them. Certainly Lebron was one, when he joined the Heat. Drexler was one too, when he joined the Rockets.
Nobody did what KD did you can't really compare.
Lebron joined a 7 seed Miami heat team that hadn’t won a finals in 4-5 years. What a stupid ass comparison. KD joined the best team with 3 all-star players including a 2 time league MVP from the previous two seasons lmao.
after Gsw lost steph recruited Kd and he agreed to lower his contract just to accomodate the salary for Kd
Lebron was not a bus rider...Miami Lebron drove that bus and became the bus lol. Also Miami was a #7 seed and hadn't won a Chip the year before nor set an NBA record for regular season wins....HUGE difference with KD
@@frankiestein78912 he made a super team idk why you Lebron act like he pick up middle schoolers and won a ring. Wade was there already who already won a ring then brought Chris Bosh to win a super team and got a whole bunch of role players that weren’t there previous years it’s not hard to understand
When you realize that most people who hated KD's move are Lebron fans, you start to put things into perspective. I partially wish KD didnt make that move because now people just act like Lebron didnt ruin the league first, but im also glad he did it because Lebron didnt have any competition in the East due his team stacking. People like to act like the Warriors move wasnt in RESPONSE to what Lebron was doing. Also NOBODY discredits anybody on the Warriors for actually recruiting KD, which is total bs.
as a knicks fan I could say we hated the move , no other team had a chance . I don’t really think it’s just Lebron fans that hated the move ,I could say golden state was the only Fan base that approved of this move
And the same could be said about bron . No one would discredit a team for trying to get better ,especially one that built themselves from the draft .
KD is the second best small forward ever and the 2017-2019 Warriors Greatest Team Ever !
I respect your opinion. You also need to understand why LeBron did what he did when leaving for Miami. The big 3 Celtics were too dominant in the East after adding Hall of Famers Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, who respectively, were both 1st options and superstars on their prior teams (Wolves and Sonics). The Cavs upper management failed to create a championship contending team surrounding LeBron to even make it past the Celtics. Overall, the LeBron decision gave freedom to all NBA superstars today. Maybe a little too much freedom. But to say he ruined the NBA is an overstatement. The league has been evolving and anyone can pretty much come up with a scenario from past eras that ruined the NBA. As for the KD situation, it just truly sucks knowing the fact that KD and OKC threw a 3-1 lead to the 73-9 Warriors; then in the next season, KD decides to sign with the same GSW core. At this time, KD was considered as arguably the 2nd best player. One may say that this move definitely ruined the league for the next few seasons.
Exactly! If LBJ makes a move it’s innovative and brave! If anyone else does the same shit… it’s cheating or meaningless and soft! Also…. LBJ is never held accountable for his fuck ups, poor leadership and spoiled bitch tactics like walking off the court early every time he lose. LBJ is a once in a lifetime talent but he’s not a good leader and he gets away with shit nobody else would ever be able to get away with. LBJ built that shit house in LA yet everyone blames the rest of the team. He wants to be the king without any of a kings responsibilities. It’s time for folks to stop praising LBJ for every god damn thing he does. It’s ridiculous
@@J9_20 str8 BS from you fella. The big 3 was dominant but the big 3 also was on the back end of their careers so excuses is what I hear. Also the Cavs won 66 and 61 games which means ur close u just have to keep working. Who wins 60 plus games then run to another franchise? The front office did there job it Sounds to me like lebron was entitled. Speaking of running to Miami, now that lebron had help with Wade and Bosh they still lost to the Mavs and lil bitty Jason Terry punked Lebum. Lebron also had help when he went back to Cleveland. Kyrie and Love was more than enough and even after Kyrie left lebron still had Love and which lebron failed to use him correctly. The 2016 Finals it took a twist of fate Draymond antics and Kyrie scoring the impactful points for the Cavs to win, and both Kyrie and Love were healthy in that Finals and they was still down 3-1. To me all I'm hearing from u BronSexuals are excuses and delusions fella. Lebron couldn't sniff the playoffs until Larry Hughes went to Cleveland. Lebron couldn't win his 1st chip until he teamed up with Bosh and Wade. Lebron never won anything without Kyrie in Cleveland 1-4 Finals Record. Lebron never won anything without AD in LA.
One thing I hate about the way people talk about these NBA super stars is that they act like they're the only one on the team. Like basketball isn't a team sport.
That Andre ignodala line was ether
Those facts extend to the guy that started this mess with his "Decision". You don't have one without the other.
The Celtics started the the 3
Kd ditched thunder, warriors secured 2 championships, ditched them, and committed to the net. Gut the team destroyed their future and looking for a superteam. I love his game but his drive to surpass the great status is bs. Just a lie. Kyrie, lebron, and durant destroyed many franchises.
Kyrie destroyed the Nets, KD and Harden could have made something if Kyrie was willing to play but Kyrie is all ego
Kyrie just wasnt willing to get vaccinated . Which is his god given right. And the courts also backed this decision. This administration tried to force it against Supreme courts ruling. Im not a kyrie fan. Im from boston. But I understand. They have a chance now. But will bail on their commitments.
Let's not forget that the Warriors couldn't afford 4 max contracts even if they wanted too when KD left the team. He even took less money to play with them for those 2 years and at the end of the day he had to grab the bag that Brooklyn gave him and Kyrie. And to be honest KD hasn't been the same player after the Achilles injury in the finals against Toronto.
Hey i get your point they would have made room to keep kd if he wanted to stay with gsw. He doesnt want boston, and ide rather keep jb. Hes not worth given up all they would want and i dont trust him to stay. Kd 1643, jb had 1543 as #2 guy and there is so many more points not to do it than to do it. He doesnt spell out championship. Gsw were a championship team before he got there and he hasn't done it sense. Is all im saying. Keep youth and future, instead of ego, injury, and aged kd.
I feel bad for ppl like Charles. Ppl see the millions but don’t see the depression behind the money. The wickedness and hate behind the money. Look up Charles Barkley and see why he hates KD it’s SAD.
How does a former player who couldn't win a ring tell an 2-time Finals MVP and champion who was also arguably the best player in the world his 2 rings don't count?
Because leaving constantly complain and is insecure.
What happened to the old days when almost every team in the league had 1 or 2 star players fighting to get a ring? Now whenever things get tough they're jumping ship to make "super teams" with 3 or even 5 stars to win? Competition has taken a hit in the NBA. Just watch older playoff games, specially between teams that had a rivalry, they were battles.
Yes, and you could actually remember what team someone was playing for this week! Strange thing is, many of those superstar teams way underperformed. It's almost as if it matters that it's a team sport, and putting big egos together isn't always good. But then, I'm old. I got to watch Magic, Bird, Dr. J, compete. And, great as those three names are, they won because they played team ball. God, it was great to see, and, strangely, that's one of the things about GSW that got me to watch the NBA again.
People who really get into baseball rhapsodize about great defense, as much as great hitting. People who love basketball go crazy for great passing, which requires unselfish and alert play from everyone.
It's called the AAU mentality where players go and play with a team that gives them the best chances of winning and a franchise that can offer them the best incentives to line their wallets. 🤫Oops did I say that ....LOL
@@throbins1 so help me understand, the organization can trade the players whenever they want. But the players supposed to stay loyal even tho the organization won't help the team get better?? If the organization can pay players millions of dollars how much more money do they actually make?? Sorry, did I just say that?
They added too many teams. Great teams were able to be built with 24 teams in the league. The bulls with Jordan were the last great team being built and then the nba included like 5 more teams and around the bulls 2nd 3 peat they added another 2 teams.
During those 2000s if you had 1 star you’ll make the playoffs but shaq and Kobe dominated because they had 2. The league is the deepest with talent that I have ever seen at this moment.
Charles is right about this one!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
The subtitles turning "KD" into "Katie" just says it all 😂😂😂😂😂
Arsenio's character, he ain't lying 💀
Where have you been kd didn't win a championship for the nets
He was swept by the celtics
He joined the Warriors just to get the rings. He was
along for a ride. He is not all that great, he just likes to take credit.
KD career before GSW > Charles Barkley career
You clearly were born in the 90s
@@RyanC232 sounds like boomer talk
@@vintagemonte I'm taking Charles Barkley‼️🤷🏿♂️💯💯 #PJTuckerWouldntHaveGotten
#InCharlesFace
Both had 0 rings.
@@vintagemonte you were still born in the 90s. You don't know anything about basketball if you are saying anything along those lines.
He is a bus rider. There are a lot of bus riders lately but they still don't have a ring. Bus rider, buddy ball, whatever you want to call it.
What song was in the background
Charley Barley he is so right on points! ;)
Chuck isnt hating, we all agree with him. If KD is one of the greatest players in the league, then why does he need to join a championship team that can win a ring without him lol
KD broke the NBA for two years. There was no need to watch the NBA when there was one rigged team that you already knew was going to win. You aready knew the outcome.
And then the Raptors came. Go Toronto!!
@@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 yea Toronto killed it after the dubs lost 2 superstars
@@fakename1656 they were up 2-1 with one quarter remaining when Thompson went down. They were never going to win that game. Durant doesn't even count. Raptors led the tempo the first four games and would have won 4-1 if igudola hadn't hit that miracle 3 at the last second. Not so black and white like you prefer to remember it.
@@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 enjoy that fantasy as much as you can. The raptors won't be winning another title for a long time.
@@fakename1656 In 3 years you will be hearing about another Raptors championship. They are one player away from contending. Best part is that player is Barnes. 3 years development and a sixth man, we got it locked for years.
We building a dynasty from within.
Everybody got Kevin Durant wrong don't forget it was the Warriors who flew out to the Hamptons to give Kevin Durant the key to the bus and they had no problem giving him the keys to the bus
If KD wants to earn NBA respects he needs to Join the Kings and take them to the playoffs. Maybe they won’t win the chip but by just turning the team around he would gain so much respect.
I love chuck, but no matter what you say, whether they bought their rings or not ….they have them and chuck doesn’t have anything
Chuck tried this route too late in his career, had he done so earlier maybe he would have at least 1 ring
That right there is why that Bama stays mad in life. Great post
Tried this route? Mf wanted to get paid he didn’t try shit.
Compare the teams that chuck was in to the teams KD was in, if you cant see a difference just stop watching basketball and save yourself the trouble, rings are a team achievement not an individual one
Barkley always wrong for all his prediction and all the team he was rooting lost the games
He’s right about KD. He can’t lead a team to the title. He’ll join teams that are contenders already. Glory Hunter
I thought it was only one. Lol
it's odd to see someone who won literally no championship's, say anyone else's championship is not legit.
You try winning a ring against MJ's bulls
Barkley......0 rings. 🤣
KD was 100,000% NOT the bus driver on the warriors. He jumped on Steph, Klay and Draymond’s team and just got to cruise to a chip. And even KD knows those chips are partial credit
Yeah u don’t cruise on any team and win FMVP two years in row. I wonder why Steph, Klay, Dray or Iggy didn’t win that over KD. All them niggas who ride the bench and don’t contribute on the actual floor they’re the ones riding the bus.
@@20gangtay78 💯
Ya quickly forget that Green practically begged KD to join them when he got there everyone put they seat belts on and Curry played Robin. A chip is a chip Barkley just mad cuz he ain’t got one
@@20gangtay78 if kd wasn’t a bus rider then y he hasn’t been back to finals yet y he only went to the finals 1x in okc y he blow a 3-1 lead to the same team he went and joined I need answers 😂😂😂😂
@@kylonp7311 let’s see.. 1st year he was injured and couldnt play, last year he was short his 2nd and his 3rd best teammates against the then to be champions, this year kyrie was one foot in one foot out all year. Pretty easy answers to come up with if u actually think.
Chuck I'm with you on this one
Imagine calling yourself a God.
I get what the bus rider crap means but when you go on a team with Champ and potentially top 10 player and who already won and you can't win a chip, then you can't say anything to Durant.
Can one of the three people who liked this niggas confushing statement please tell me what the hell he just said ?
Everyone on that team was over 33 and washed up bro. Stop the cap. No comparison. KD was in his prime and joined the Warriors in their prime.
Can’t be a bus rider if you got 2 finals mvp’s
That was 2 years after Hakeem and Drexler won a chip. Yeah, they were so washed they went to the conference finals in 97. They took down a young Garnette and Timberwolves team and the Super Sonics who made the finals the year before. Hakeem and Barkley were 34. Drexler was 35. They lost to Utah. Karl Malone was 34 and Stockton was 35. The Bulls won the chip that year when Jordan was 34, Pippen was 32 and Rodman was 36. Ring chasing is ring chasing. Stop using the old and washed excuse.
At least KD's tow Oklahoma City I'm going Barkley just quit on the 76ers getting drunk every night didn't want to play because he didn't have a superstar with him I remember like it was yesterday shut the hell up Barkley
Some people actually put Durant in the top 10 of all time 🤣😂🤣
Have you seen him on the court yes or no? Fuck chuck
As they should. His personality might be weak for going to superteams but he proved himself even on OKC
@@Roy20476 …Durant is 20 at best. It’s obvious he can’t handle tough defense, he’s been lucky with the no-touch defense most of this era. And he didn’t prove himself at OKC. He’s never ever been the best player.
Charles Barkley should’ve been fired years ago
Durant got 2 rings while Barkley got 0...
I love Charles, but he has a history of being jealous and trying to demean other players Championships. He demeans Kenny Smiths 2 Championships by claiming he did nothing but ride the coattails of Hakeem Olajuwon. And he even demeans Shaqs 4 Championships by also claiming he road the coattails of both Kobe and D-Wade. All this coming from a man who has 0 Championships to his name.
First people talked shit about Curry by saying the Warriors dynasty was over because KD was the best player on the team. But now all of a sudden they're talking shit about KD by saying Curry was the better player on the team. People just want to run their mouths as if they know what they're talking about.
Lets not forget that KD had to put up with Westbrick for 9 whole years and still somehow managed to get them to 1 or 2 WCF and a NBA Finals.
Is this skippp
Barkley need to stop acting like he won shit .
Barkley was only stopped by one of the greatest teams of all time and the GOAT. He doesn't need to act like he won anything
@@RyanC232 He played 16 seasons not 6.
@@jessiegomez8209 yeah I think there were 2 other all time great dynasties that dominated the 80s. Celtics and lakers ring a bell..?
@@RyanC232 Ok what about 1994 and 1995 because Jordan wasn’t there, stop using Jordan name as why Barkley couldn’t win a ring. He had 1994 and 1995 but guess what, he blew a 3-1 lead on the eventual champions and joined them 2 years later he tried to make a superteam but he failed 😂😂
@@bosschello2363 yeah... Good points. Barkley is no slouch. He has his issues but he was top 75 and played with no other top 75 players until his sundown years. He did a lot. Just never won the chip.
I don't think you have much to say when you don't have one
What movie is that guy at 0:13?
I TOTALLY agree with Charles! Kevin Durant was a bus rider! Stephen Curry drove the bus for those two championships that KD got!! He altered his game in order to have Durant fit in to their system. Now, THAT'S a bus driver! Yes, he has done a lot but NOT as much as Stephen Curry!!! Kevin Durant is also a big time crybaby! Green calls him out and he wants out of Golden State. Now if that ain't a crybaby then I don't know what is! If it wasn't for Curry, Green, and Thompson he wouldn't have those two rings. And to call himself a god?! I mean, just how arrogant can you get! It's time for Kevin Durant to stop being so sensitive and get a backbone!
I love KD and Barkley but I have to 100% agree with Barkley....🤔🤷🏾♂️
He had Griffin, Harden, Irving and Nash as a coach and all he could do was… well nothing😑
And he’s calling him self god🫣
KD would get exposed in Europe for the crybaby he is. Let alone be a legend in the NBA.
He bought those rings that Curry sold to him and thats it. No leadership, no swag, no legacy.
Just KDiva
KD was easily the best Golden State Warrior. That’s silly. He outperformed Lebron to the point where Lebron chose not to guard him the next year, a player at his own position IN THE FINALS. And he lit him up in the clutch, outscoring him 3X in clutch stats… so yeah *shrug*
I don't how that makes someone a bus rider ,how come Steph didn't out play LeBron in the previous championship before KD
Why does the guy who makes these videos sound like he's never played a sport in his life
KD is the best player on that warriors runs.. but that’s because Curry gave way.. he got his coz Steph was guarded by 2 people soon as he enters half court.. To Steph, it’s the team that matters first.. that’s why KD shined..
That being said, Curry was still the best player on that team for taking a back seat, even though he made KD the best.. if that makes sense..
No, steph took a back seat and Kevin is still miserable.
Chucks forgot to say when Kevin says " research, I've been this".
I did,and see no nba championship to any team you've been as a bus driver😅
Did you see his rookie of the year his scoring titles his all NBAs and his MVP come on the man played 10 years in the west against the spurs mavs suns rockets and lakers.
He was drafted to the sonics the team moved to OKC he did everything he was supposed to do..
Where is Greg Oden ?
How did the crap make it to my feed. Wow you really unpacked that one 🤔
I always like how Barkley will take the diss from other players and HOF players that they just say they got a ring over him but he stay stating facts and stay true to it unlike other analysts who just speak out of there ass
Now I agree with him but coming from Houston when he tried to join Hakeem & Drexler if they would've won a third title when he got there I wonder would he count his ring cuz Hakeem was the bus driver on the rockets...so yes alot of Barkley points are valid but would also be valid towards him too but they didn't win..alot of Houston fans that was watching basketball then feel the same
@@ghost713lakewood6 he could have realize it wasn’t worth it
@@ghost713lakewood6 76
If people honestly don’t think KD legacy has taken a hit from this is a serious KD stickrider
It might have taken a hit, but they were on the same team. LeBron James is the rival and he has taken an even bigger hit than Kevin Durant. Because Stephen Curry has 4 rings and is his contemporary. How on your watch does a stat driven narrative player like LeBron James let little Stephen Curry catch him in rings and now by all standards a virtual tied. How is LeBron James still ranked above Stephen Curry, when LeBron James had all the help to achieve what he got, and let so many players eat on his watch.
@@hershelpogue1745 stop talking basketball
And anyone who thinks that you're right is dumb as hell
Didn’t Barkley nearly go to the Lakers? If that move didn’t fall through he’s probably have a different opinion…
the way he burn bridges when he left a team, i dont think any team will retire his number.
Steph and KD would have been the only time I wouldn't have been mad at co-Finals MVPs
Kd was by far the FMVP both times
@@brendanbloom3366 nah Steph deserves at least one of those...warriors had better record with Steph in and KD out than with KD in and Curry out, that speaks for itself
@@benndarayta9156 that's regular season and no it doesn't speak for itself. Kd was injured midseason and Iggy a gs mainstay was backup sf. Curry was injured when gs was locked as 2nd seed and other teams were fighting for seeding. Green was also injured and the backup pg was quin cook who was called up from the G league.
Curry did not come close to deserving either FMVP 2017 kd averaged way more pts in way better efficiency while averaging more rebounds and playing way better defense and being gs most clutch player in the 4th quarters.
2018 kd had more pts on way better efficiency, more rebounds, more assists, less turnovers, and played way better defense. Kd tried to get curry FMVP letting him take way more shots but kd was still way better.
Charles is the best NBA analyst and in his day he was a top 3 player in the NBA. If he played today he’d dominate. He right about KD.
Oh the pain of not knowing the spoils of championships.
At this point the NBA should just break up every team, every player, every year. Every team get to pick their players like in fantasy. There aren't enough players on the court of a game per team for basketball to be run fairly on a professional level anymore.
Barkley are right these players joining super teams that didn’t really need them to win a championship is weak that’s the case Barkley could’ve join the bulls and win one with mj in the 90s
You can't take the man's rings from him Charles. Unlike you he actually won regardless of how he got them. I felt the same way when the other teams assembled and won. Sixers got Moses. Does that mean Docs ring not real? Hell no! He earned it by the play he been doing for years. With that said he still should have that need to win with a team built around him, yes I agree, but I would never disrespect his rings, he still played hard to get them.
His rings are phony like a two headed nickel.
@@KennyMoe7mile more yeahs than nays Kenny
Dr. J never went anywhere. He tried to win with whoever they gave him!!! Back in the day the first player to jump ship trying to win was Barkley when joined Houston!! Mahlone did it with the Lakers and would've won if he didn't get hurt. He took a million bucks to make room for Gary Payton who didn't do shit.
@@khazak-yaohgad5662 everything is just opinions and mine is simple he was at that time the 2nd best player in the league. He joined the 3rd best player in the league to win plus the same person that beat him..... no respect for his rings at all.....bus rider
@@KennyMoe7mile They accepted him on the team and now he a bus rider? I'm a Sixer / Golden State fan. They won with him on the team. He left for whatever reason. Name are kid games. Dubs were angry because of how he left. Yeah it feels like I got them and I'm out. He and Green got into and he left. If he had stayed they would be talking about how it's so unfair they stacked they team. It's always going to be something. The man is in Golden State books and Golden State put him there. With that said, he makes a lot of bad decisions. I thought leaving OKC was weak, joining the Dubs smart but weak because the could not beat them. Then you join your rival, weak again. But how much of a difference is it when you have the best team and winning championships already and you go out and get the best rebounder in the game so you can win more championships? It's all in the game! And i know what an opinion is thank you.
I agree 💯
Kevin Durant is The Dwayne Wade of the generation after DWade Retired.
Disagree with Charles, it takes a team to win, according to Charles, Pippen, Rodman, Kareem just to name a few, their rings don’t count because they were not the best players in their teams…it’s asinine to say that, without Durant GS wouldn’t win those 2 rings he was their best player
Well they won without him now, I think no they could've done it back then too. They were a finals team before he got there
Like Draymond, I agree the GS doesn't get the 2 chips without Durant.
But that's not the conversation.....
It's actually, would KD have 2 rings with GS? I think No because he couldn't get past GS.
It really brakes my heart to see the treatment towards KD even though some of it could be true, But.. Nobody would say that Lebron did something similar when he came to the Heat. And during the years Charles Barkley was playing, when they really played hard, Chuck would’ve never pushed to have the player who was giving him a hard time on the floor to make it easier for him to win, that’s was Lebron did with Draymond Green, and a “scholar of the game” that Barkley is knows that. If you’re going to criticize KD , be a man and do the same with LBJ.
Charles, your rings...oh yeah....nevermind.
Sometimes it's not the one indiviual it's the teams around him, you have to have role players to help and have the same thing in mind, the will to win a championship.
Kevin Durant is the second best small forward ever
Nah dont disrespect larry bird like that
Larry Bird never hopped to the team
That smoked him when he had a 3-1 lead. Soft ass
@@famouscriminals1fan78 Nah dont disrespect kevin durant like that
@Beery Nope, Durant is a better scorer shooter shot blocker more skilled and talented and better defensive player overall
@Beery Durant is an underrated defender, just like LeBron and Klay Thompson, Bird was good on defense, not elite, KD is a great defensive player.
Charles is correct. Without KD joining warriors, he wouldn't win a chip
Sir Charles........Kevin Durant is THE GOLD STANDARD. Love you Charles.
charles ain't lying about kevin durant