I got the 1st surface go with the lowest specs about 6 months ago and I wouldn't replace it for any other 2 in 1. It's SUPER portable, fun to use and so handy for my Fine Arts University degree.despite what reviews say it can still run proper drawing programs like Krita. Glad to see a 2nd version of a device I love
@@aldo959 I was taking notes on paper and using surface go as pdf reader. That way I don't have to carry heavy books around. But I just purchase an ipad air 3. So I will use my surface go as a pdf reader and my ipad to take notes and try to go paperless.
Samsung S6 lite is good for notes - its cheaper and includes pen which need not be charges.. $350 for (tablet + pen included). But if you prefer one size fits all,,, go for a 13 inch windows 2 in 1 like yoga c640.... its light enough to carry around and you can use pen to take notes and its less than $1000 including pen
@@Mark-xw5yt surface go strength is portability. Only if you want it for simple computing. I only need it to open pdfsand maybe checking emails. You can push it to word docs or power point but not really recommend it. I personally love it.
I have the first Go and I love it. I have my own work laptop, so I don't need anything as big as 13" as a second portable device. But I need to do work on it, so I love that I can have a device running the same OS (I got win10 pro on my surface go). It works well for light programming, and even for teaching online lectures. And IT FITS IN MY PURSE. I love it and I hope it will have a deserved success on the market. No other device out there offers portability + a PC operating system and it's really well made.
I've got the original Surface Go, and I love it... I still use my laptop at home, but the Go and my laptop are all synced up through OneDrive. It's soooo easy to keep my work going while I'm out and about :) I'd like to add that Windows 10 S Mode isn't so bad anyways... I kept mine in S Mode for a long time, but had to pull it out, ironically, to install Microsoft Teams (some idiot upstairs canned the store version) ...But I still live by the principles of S Mode. I always check the store first for any apps, and give serious thought to anything from outside the store. Those principles have kept my little Surface Go going just as fast today as it was the day I bought it ;)
I really like the idea of S Mode. But Microsoft really needs to step up heavily to make store better. It's still the worst app store available unfortunately. Which is shame as "store competitor" Xbox application is pretty damn good these days. I wish though that MS would moderate it's store in future better as I absolutely hate many stores cause of their let's be honest, completely meaningless apps. By far worst being Nintendo Switch store that seems to have many free android games in it's store with huge price tags. I don't understand how they've gotten around it.
Tablets really SHOULD have some decent-sized bezels on them. You need a place to hold the thing, and not accidentally touch the screen with your thumb!
@Joseph Kim Also true, perhaps! Maybe just enough bezel to have confidence in the structural integrity, while you carry it around in a bag? I think this new Surface Go 2 actually nails just the right amount of bezel for a tablet, at least from what I can see over TH-cam demonstrations. (Can’t exactly try it out in a Best Buy right now.)
That isn't a problem with any tablet I've used with thin bezels. Don't know what MS is thinking with those thick bezels, they make it look like an iPad 2 from 2011.
The 4GB 64GB eMMC Surface Go 2 is absolutely fine for Office 365, email, Netflix, TH-cam, MS edge. Multiple web pages, full blown multiple Excel, Word, PowerPoint files, multiple TH-cam channels can be opened at the same time. It reads and writes to a microSD card pretty fast. So, for a secondary PC it's worth it for business users / office goers. As a primary PC, the screen size might be a bit of a limiting factor. Overall, it's a great device even in it's lowest configuration for the type of usage mentioned above.
If you have already have a mouse and keyboard your kind of set though. it's a rad accessory that you don't have to buy right away especially if you're not looking to pay full price.
arkhamnights the surface’s key feature is portability. You don’t buy a surface to leave it on your desk and use it as a desktop. For that purpose, the keyboard cover is required
I've been using the 1st Gen for a year now as my primary device. It's a bit slow but works just fine. I code, light games, and light video production. I will be upgrading to the core just to get a bit more speed.
A piece of advice, make sure you get the Core m3 model, it makes a world of difference! Trust me, it's worth the extra cost for the upgrade. They don't even advertise it on Best Buy without digging, you have to make sure you click the processor options when you add it to your cart. Do NOT get the "gold" Pentium chip, it's horrible.
I had the original Surface Go. I used it for about 2 days before I returned it. It's just too slow. Taking notes had noticeable lag with the pen. Google has gone out of their way to make their apps so slow on Edge they're borderline unusable. Taking it out of S Mode to install Chrome or Firefox filled up the 4GB of RAM in seconds. I ended up getting a not-quite-base model Surface Pro 5 and am still happy with it. The Go 2 with the m3 processor and 8GB of RAM may be a great choice for a lot of people, but at that price you may as well get an older model Pro, you can still find them new.
it's simply because core M3 8100Y is good enough for 80% of people out there. also its light and easy to use. If Microsoft make these and include the keyboard alongside the deal it'd basically be the default recommendation for any students out there.
I use the surface go just to sign invoices at work when I am at the customers house. I use Edge draw on PDF feature with black pen. Print to PDF, email the customer after.
SG2 is a computer in the form of a small tablet. Most people interested in this device already have a portable laptop, so they don't need an undersized keyboard. What they need is a surface pen so the SG2 can be used as a tablet that increases their productivity. If you want a laptop get the SP7. Too bad this device was launched after I brought my Tab s6...
I've have been expecting it for about 3 months now. With little to no research someone looking into a Surface product should know and expect the keyboard does not come with it, although Best Buy does sell them in bundles and usually at a better price. I personally have had any no issues with "S" mode which is what I have heard I've called for about 2 years now. And, I like knowing where my apps are coming from. I have never installed Chrome on my other PC's now since the new Edge Chromium is available and in my opinion better than Chrome on PC. Unfortunately bad timing for portable devices on the go, no pun intended. I was really looking forward to the M3 version, but now holding off as I am working only from home.
Joseph Kim I see that. I unfortunately have no need at this point stuck indoors at home. Maybe by the time I need a mobile device again it will be marked down on a holiday sale or something. Although the LTE rarely ever is or was.
Fun Fact, as the Go has a USB port, you can use a cheap keyboard mouse combo like you can do on a desktop. There are even some keyboards that are small. Try that on an iPad with out a series of dongles. Also, the iPad nor your Desktop came with a keyboard either.
This guy doesn’t seem like the best tech reviewer. Keeps bashing the keyboard. Dude just consider that it’s a $500 base and don’t EVER believe the bogus marketing. Yes, an iPad is cheaper with a Logitech Combo Touch, but it’s for someone who already has access to a computer. This is for students who need the OS, but don’t do much heavy work on their PC.
Its cheap when you take into account Apple sells you a tablet keyboard for $350. Ipad is way more expensive and less capable with the cheap iOS inside.
@@oscarfeliz9874 Both are stupid expense chain anyway, you buy more after one. If you don't have any need for portable, "smol" computer. Better buy other laptop or even last year Surface Pro, my 2 cents ...
Imagine the surface go 3 is compatible with the previous generation's keyboard and pen, you wouldn't need to buy them to upgrade, in the pro line as I understand there's some backwards compatibility with those accessories and the idea is that you don't have to upgrade everything, I think that's good
I was asking for it! I love my surface go 1, use it with the dock to work everyday. I will definitely pick up the core m3 model, finally a faster processor. The Pentium can be quite slow at times.
@CNET, hey nice review. But I have read there is heating issue in some versions of SG2 and SG3. Would you pls specify about it? I am planning to buy either SG2 (Refurbished) or SG3 (New) for basic use like word/excel/you tube viewing as a secondary option but don’t want a roaster. Which version should I opt for basic use? 4GB/64 or 8GB/128? M3 or Pentium? Will appreciate your input. Thanks..
Download Throttlestop to get the SG2's Pentium Gold processor to run as fast as an i5 processor. Unlike high-performance mode, it won't destroy battery life. I still get around 10 hours of continuous TH-cam viewing.
I bought a surface go 1, and have been using it since august last year (I think that is when I bought it) and I have never had the attached keyboard, nor do I have the urge to do so. I use my go 1 as a second device. I use it as an ebook reader, movie watcher, and email monitor. I don't use it as a heavy lifter. Could I have gotten an ipad to an android tablet to do the same thing? Maybe. But I am not in the ios world at all, and I don't trust android to stay updated for 3+ years. I know my x86 based windows device will continue to receive updates. But I do not have the keyboard, and I have no urge to do so.
So, the tablet portion will bring up an on screen keyboard if you need to reply to an email? If so, that would be great. Just bought the Go-2 and keyboard, but don't need the keyboard when traveling if I can type on the screen. Nobody makes that part clear.
I dont know how I like that it is 729 for the one with the LTE and Intel M chip and yet you still have to pay more for the keyboard attached and pen. It should vary least come with that keyboard for the price.
There are two obvious reasons why the keyboard does not come in the box: firstly because you might have the keyboard from the original surface go lying around which is still compatible, and secondly because there are multiple keyboards to choose from.
Geekbench 5 SG2 m3 chip = 873 2020 base model MBA i3 = 983 Cinebench R20 SG2 m3 chip = 460 2020 bsse model MBA i3 =620 Cost SG2 me chip = $629US ($40-$50 keyboard / $45-$55 pen at Amazon) 2020 base model MBA i3 = $949US (no pen, touch screen, microSD)
You are sooooo good at this and soooo engaging. I love the way you make reviewing a technical product like reviewing something that might be designed to make life better. You then judge it on whether it does. You reviews are so very human and engaging. And that is coming from an engineer who now helps people to be more human haha. I always feel that when I come to the end of our reviews ... short as they usually are .. that I have simply not had enough of you describing whatever it is. You do that good a job. Please don't say you will stop doing this. You are fab Dan. Just Fab. I love the Surface Go 2 too. Got the first one for my daughter and she loves it. (Thinking I might get the second one for me.... We shall see if I can swing that haha!!) Thanks, for the review and for all the vids you do. Keep up the fantastic work ... The beard suits by the way!
Yeah exactly. All reviewers mention this every time but it's well known and even heavily suggested when you buy one to get a keyboard too. This said, it's not a 399 pc as Microsoft like to make out.
I love the concept, however there are troubling issues. Both models have different processors compared to the 7th gen. IPad and it has less horsepower than my $270 HP Laptop which has an actual Intel I3 Core Processor.
LEGODANIEL ONE These are not competitors to cheap, heavy 15.6” plastic laptops you can buy off the shelf at Walmart for under $300. These are for people who prioritize ultraportability and premium looks over getting the most processor power per dollar. Your comment is basically saying nobody should by a Mini Cooper because they could by a base model Ford F-150 with a bigger engine for the same price. Not every product is for everyone.
@@justiceprovider9822 The Surface Go is apparently Microsoft's best-selling Surface product. Its starting price puts it as a direct competitor to ipads and Chrombooks (particularly for schools) and what it lacks in power it makes up for by having a full desktop OS. I have the first gen (top spec) and I use it to run my small business on the go. I was surprised how sufficient it was for my productivity needs - Office, web browsing, emailing and light multimedia (Netflix, TH-cam).
“I’m just gonna leave that in.” Lmao! Thank you. That was pretty funny to me for some strange reason. Not as cute as that one guy and his wife wrangling his kid, but whatever.
Will there be a Surface Go 3 coming out and will there be a Microsoft Surface 8 coming out anytime soon is it worth buying a Microsoft surface 7 and will it run windows 11 when that comes out
Every review of this device points out the need of getting the keyboard cover. Most likely because most reviewers needs a keyboard to write up their review and they always neglect to mention the fact that a ubiquitous bluetooth keyboard can easily connect to this device if needed. Also, no one I can find, except for a musician, actually tried Windows in S mode and he didn't think it was entirely necessary to switch over to full blown windows on a device like this. Even back when netbooks were a thing, full blown Windows 7 wasn't installed on those devices. It's most likely why they don't deep dive into Windows 10 in S mode, because these reviewers are stuck using Chrome and x86 apps for work, even though the chromium version of Edge comes preinstalled in the Go 2 and they never really looked for store related alternatives for x86 apps. This device really isn't meant for work but the Go2 can be used in S mode since most companies already lock down work laptops from installing random software for security and IT reasons. In a lot of cases, most work from home users end up remotely connecting to their office machines and their home computer is basically a thin client which the Surface Go 2 is more capable for this use. Why do these reviewers constantly critique the shortcomings of the Go series and compare it to an iPad when they're simultaneously making a comparison to a tablet OS with a miniature mobile Windows pc? It's like comparing a chromebook to an amazon kindle or fire hd.
The base model is a good deal, but if you upgrade it it starts to cost as much as much better laptops. Just get a basic Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and you are good to go. And the webcam is great for Zoom. This new one is 60% faster and has better microphones, and a bigger battery too. It is a good deal.
Interesting to see people say that this can't replace a laptop or most people have a laptop anyway. I currently have the surface pro 4 that I use for school, entertainment, and work. I actually have a laptop that I haven't touched in years since getting my surface. I will be getting the 8 gb memory 128 surface SSD go 2 today so I can have a backup. Slightly concerned about the negative view about the speed so I will be testing it out because I make calls through crm for work. The only thing that I probably should have done differently is not keep my surface pro plugged in all the time so I think that I now need a new battery...ooops I won't make that mistake again. I also bought the accessories online which included the keyboard, a Bluetooth mouse, (docking station but not the Microsoft version because of price and I didn't like the look of it), a second cover that also works as a kickstand and mat, pen, USB c to a adapter so I can use the docking station with my pro as well.. Overall, I paid $715 total for everything brand new.. I have a hate type of relationship for used or renewed electronics and I don't think it was a bad deal. Excited to have two surface devices that will keep me from buying bulky laptops especially since I'm moving out of country and I need portable and lightweight fully functional Microsoft computers to go along with my kindle.
How does this handle coding? I am starting an IT management course in uni and wanted this as it is very light and portable. I was thinking of the m3 version.
How come when "the tech community" reviews laptops most reviews review the highest spec or at least mid spec product. When it comes to Surface Go its always the lowest spec. I have the 8gb 128gb Surface Go 1. I got it day one back in 2018. Love it. Work and home. At work with a monitor and keyboard setup, and to then with my 55inch tv at home. Battery could be better but I've converted my life to USB-C everywheeerrrrrrreee!
Reviewers typically don't buy the laptops themselves, but receive one as a curtesy from manufactures, in this case Microsoft. Microsoft obviously want these reviewers to have the best and smoothest experience, so will only send out highest spec Surface. So as far as reviewing goes, the base spec Surface Go does not exist. Microsoft could of course forgo on the base model completely, but that would mean losing the possibility of advertising with "Available from $399".
Can I ask if the SP1/SP2 type cover 1 or 2 works with the surface go? Currently have a Surface Pro 1 with a type cover 2 and thinking of getting an SG2 and living off the old type keyboard first while I save up for the new type cover and pen.
the surface go 1/2 use a different type cover connection from the previous devices. actually, I've been told that the covers from "regular" surface gen 4 and up are incompatible with pro 2 (and down) even though the connectors seem like they should be the same. at the very least, when i plugged my pro 2 into a current-gen typecover at the store it did not automatically start working (but i also didn't have an internet connection at the time, so perhaps if i had it would have installed some drivers and it would have worked?) I've bought surface 3 typecovers for my pro 2 (because the width is the same while the pro 3 typecovers are too wide) and that has worked, though.
It pisses me off that , no reviewer shows off it in tablet mode when talking about it as a tablet and then they conclude it is not optimized as a tablet...and no one talks about that mini sd expansion....
Scott Chiste agreed. If you want mainly touchscreen tablet style, go for something else. But if you want a balance between touchscreen ease, productivity, and media consumption go for the surface.
@@enda0man thats not the point, i meant that when you are using surface without a keyboard its better to switch to tablet mode which will be definitely better than desktop... i am not saying its tablet mode is good ,its just works ... i know ipad as tablet is far better but there is a tablet mode in windows which helps... i hope this makes sense
The price is a bit deceiving, when you add it all up its not that affordable for what you get unless you really need a touchscreen. I'd say stay away from the higher configuration, and if you need more than that, go for something with better value.
Surface reviews are apparently easy money for people in this industry. Seriously, Watch _any_ review of a Surface product and they _all_ hit the same beats. Repetitive complaints about the keyboard not being in the box. Repetitive complaints about the Windows Store. Repetitively unfavorable comparisons to the iPad. Repetition of any negative, discriminatory, biasing POV that can be mustered right before a damning with faint praise, half-hearted "recommendation" for any who can stomach such a device. Nobody who actually knows what they are talking about actually reviews the devices. I know a lot of people who know how to use a thermometer, a stethoscope, and a blood pressure cuff. None of them are doctors. It requires a specialized skill set to take the information you can get from those devices and make use of it to improve or protect someone's health. If a person just commented on the present state of the numbers and concluded someone was sick based on how high or low the numbers were they would not be giving good health advice. That is all this and most other reviewers do. "Here's another Surface, it does this and that but, hey, the iPad is more popular. If you wanna be 'that guy' get this instead. You do you" The end. It would be really nice if CNET put more effort into making its reviews useful for the general public. More expertise and less heavy on the tech myths.
Yes, agree, the Surface Go is not for everyone, but it is for people that understand what it is and that it will fit into their workflow. Of course, the base model is limited, and that it is really only for light tasks, but if that is okay then it will work. The main reason is clearly the size, there is not much out there in Windows land with that form factor, 10-inches never really sold on Windows devices, but I am sure there is a small and niche market that appreciate that MS has not forgotten them. Personally, I see it as a secondary device, dinky and neat for just doing the stuff you need when on the go. No doubt an iPad would be as good for that workload, but some people just prefer Windows. We are better off having it and although not perfect, I wish battery life was better, and that the M3 model was a tad cheaper, it is comparable with an iPad Air (M3 Version) and the iPad 7 ( -v- Pentium) so the pricing is not too bad. Thankfully many of us see the reviews and now can read between the lines and make our own more nuanced conclusions.
The windows store deserves every bit of criticism it gets until it's fixed. I've used third party app stores funded by patreon users that work better than the windows store
@@TheMarouuu have you heard of the surface pro? They done it with that and its awesome and packed with 8-16gb ram and a 10th gen i5 or i7. AND GUESS WHAT. ALL IN A TABLET and i5 8gb version is 1300 AUD. So its not dumb and also what reviewers like this dude forget to mention is that kids who need a tablet but a first laptop can have this. So no the device isnt stupid.
Hey! I have a doubt and maybe someone in the comments can help me: I'm a college student, trying to buy a tablet to carry every day to class to take notes, read pdf, make researches and in the train going home maybe see some youtube videos or Netflix shows... I'm thinking of buying the surface go 2 but I would only be able to afford the 4GB one... or maybe buying the surface go 1 used and I can afford the LTE version... or an old surface pro but I'm afraid that might be too big to carry... What do you think?? Thank you for reading all of this😂
I have the surface go 1 4gb versión and Im in college and it works just fine for my I watch TH-cam on my long breaks and listen to music in Spotify and for school work it gets the job done (google drive for schoolwork, Microsoft onenote for notes) if you don’t type a lot or have a secondary pc at home don’t buy the keyboard I rarely use it I mostly use the pen to take notes on onenote it gets the job done if you’re at school take the charger with you because it will last like maybe 4-5 hours use taking notes only and turning it off at unimportant times but all in all I like it
The only thing tbf that bothers me about surface tablet product is that they seem like they try to be tablets? Since when you buy them it doesn't come with any attachments like the much needed keyboard. But they aren't really a tablet since they lack several apps. They don't have much storage so if you were to write documents here, which i believe is the main activity u cando here, u won't do it for long. I could be wrong tho, so if somebody got one of this, let me know how it feels
And they will still be asking for one. I had the last one with more ram and it was a dog. Just minor tasks made it soooo slow and painful. I put on Ebay and bought a Ipad pro, much better experience.
I mean I agree that the Surface Go 2 should come with the keyboard. Like Microsoft can you at least include the Surface Go 2 with the keyboard? Or not then make the Surface Go 3 with an included keyboard.
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BATTERY LIFE?! That was the weakest point of the first release and absolutely no mention here??!! The rest are 'nice to have' upgrades, but the ability to actually plonk it in a shoulder bag and use it all day without having to worry about taking along the charger and hunting an outlet was the big issue.
So I want this for home. For when I’m in bed at night instead of being on my phone. It Will be on wifi and I want it for online shopping / watching Netflix (when I cbf to connect it to tv) etc Not so much for work or gaming would this be good or something else is better ??
I find it amusing that everyone universally seems to think it’s stupid that the Surface doesn’t come with the keyboard included but you never hear anyone make that complaint about the iPad.
I’m thinking of buying it for university, basically I need it for PDFs, Word Documents and research. Does it run smoothly? Even with a couple of apps/pages opened? Anyone here bought this?
I think when you look at $400 for the device plus $100 for the keyboard you're really saying gosh I should just buy the Lenovo IdeaPad and just use Chrome OS.
Yes, it can operate like any other Windows 10 device... I use a few .exe programs on my Go, but i do try to limit myself as much as possible to apps from the store... They will just keep your computer running smoother.... I recommend that practice to any Windows 10 user.... Check the store first ;)
The thing that keeps me away from the surface go is not coming with the keyboard in the box... It's a laptop not a tablet so why sell the keyboard separate
because you can choose the keyboard you want when it's separate? because if you already have a keyboard you don't have to buy another? i seriously don't get the hardship people have over it not being bundled. it won't magically cost less if they bundled it in.
I got the 1st surface go with the lowest specs about 6 months ago and I wouldn't replace it for any other 2 in 1. It's SUPER portable, fun to use and so handy for my Fine Arts University degree.despite what reviews say it can still run proper drawing programs like Krita. Glad to see a 2nd version of a device I love
As an engineering student I just need it to read pdfs. 😅😅😅 I used CAD programs at school anyways. I love it.
What's the best combo for taking notes on the pdfs themselves?
@@aldo959 I was taking notes on paper and using surface go as pdf reader. That way I don't have to carry heavy books around. But I just purchase an ipad air 3. So I will use my surface go as a pdf reader and my ipad to take notes and try to go paperless.
Samsung S6 lite is good for notes - its cheaper and includes pen which need not be charges.. $350 for (tablet + pen included).
But if you prefer one size fits all,,, go for a 13 inch windows 2 in 1 like yoga c640.... its light enough to carry around and you can use pen to take notes and its less than $1000 including pen
Surface go is perfect then! I got an ipad for this, i also use cad programs in school.
@@Mark-xw5yt surface go strength is portability. Only if you want it for simple computing. I only need it to open pdfsand maybe checking emails. You can push it to word docs or power point but not really recommend it. I personally love it.
I have the first Go and I love it. I have my own work laptop, so I don't need anything as big as 13" as a second portable device. But I need to do work on it, so I love that I can have a device running the same OS (I got win10 pro on my surface go). It works well for light programming, and even for teaching online lectures. And IT FITS IN MY PURSE. I love it and I hope it will have a deserved success on the market. No other device out there offers portability + a PC operating system and it's really well made.
Yet another good review. The Surface Go 2 really seems to be getting lots of love all around. Think I wanna give it a, well, go.
I've got the original Surface Go, and I love it... I still use my laptop at home, but the Go and my laptop are all synced up through OneDrive. It's soooo easy to keep my work going while I'm out and about :) I'd like to add that Windows 10 S Mode isn't so bad anyways... I kept mine in S Mode for a long time, but had to pull it out, ironically, to install Microsoft Teams (some idiot upstairs canned the store version) ...But I still live by the principles of S Mode. I always check the store first for any apps, and give serious thought to anything from outside the store. Those principles have kept my little Surface Go going just as fast today as it was the day I bought it ;)
I also just recently switched out of s mode. As a college student I needed to dowload zoom. Surface go is perfect for zoom. I love it.
I really like the idea of S Mode. But Microsoft really needs to step up heavily to make store better. It's still the worst app store available unfortunately. Which is shame as "store competitor" Xbox application is pretty damn good these days. I wish though that MS would moderate it's store in future better as I absolutely hate many stores cause of their let's be honest, completely meaningless apps. By far worst being Nintendo Switch store that seems to have many free android games in it's store with huge price tags. I don't understand how they've gotten around it.
Every man must have a code. My code is the way of the 10s.
@Edward Routley No, it's free, you just can't get back into S mode.
@Edward Routley you CAN get back into S mode. Just google it.
Tablets really SHOULD have some decent-sized bezels on them. You need a place to hold the thing, and not accidentally touch the screen with your thumb!
@Joseph Kim Also true, perhaps! Maybe just enough bezel to have confidence in the structural integrity, while you carry it around in a bag?
I think this new Surface Go 2 actually nails just the right amount of bezel for a tablet, at least from what I can see over TH-cam demonstrations. (Can’t exactly try it out in a Best Buy right now.)
I agree, but those bezels are huge and unnecessary unless you are shrek
That isn't a problem with any tablet I've used with thin bezels. Don't know what MS is thinking with those thick bezels, they make it look like an iPad 2 from 2011.
Exactly! I hate a small bezel! So damn annoying.
The 4GB 64GB eMMC Surface Go 2 is absolutely fine for Office 365, email, Netflix, TH-cam, MS edge. Multiple web pages, full blown multiple Excel, Word, PowerPoint files, multiple TH-cam channels can be opened at the same time. It reads and writes to a microSD card pretty fast. So, for a secondary PC it's worth it for business users / office goers. As a primary PC, the screen size might be a bit of a limiting factor. Overall, it's a great device even in it's lowest configuration for the type of usage mentioned above.
Perfect for me. I just need something for managing servers via SSH, or so.
The Keyboard Accessory is a must have for any Surface Tablet (Pro 7, X, Go).
If you have already have a mouse and keyboard your kind of set though. it's a rad accessory that you don't have to buy right away especially if you're not looking to pay full price.
Aye imagine if they sold the keyboard base separately for the Surface Book too
arkhamnights the surface’s key feature is portability. You don’t buy a surface to leave it on your desk and use it as a desktop. For that purpose, the keyboard cover is required
@@Minsang1st your missing the point. You don't NEED it right away. The type cover is always on sell and there are plenty of third party options now.
Love the decision to leave that in!
This man needs to be on the radio. It's like listening to Casey Kasem.
I've been using the 1st Gen for a year now as my primary device. It's a bit slow but works just fine. I code, light games, and light video production. I will be upgrading to the core just to get a bit more speed.
I'm thinking of using something like this with windows remote desktop, remote into powerhouse desktop from portable device and profit.
@@slayyou I use my Surface Go all the time to remote into my organizations servers in West Africa all the time. No problems what's so ever :)
A piece of advice, make sure you get the Core m3 model, it makes a world of difference! Trust me, it's worth the extra cost for the upgrade. They don't even advertise it on Best Buy without digging, you have to make sure you click the processor options when you add it to your cart. Do NOT get the "gold" Pentium chip, it's horrible.
I had the original Surface Go. I used it for about 2 days before I returned it. It's just too slow. Taking notes had noticeable lag with the pen. Google has gone out of their way to make their apps so slow on Edge they're borderline unusable. Taking it out of S Mode to install Chrome or Firefox filled up the 4GB of RAM in seconds. I ended up getting a not-quite-base model Surface Pro 5 and am still happy with it. The Go 2 with the m3 processor and 8GB of RAM may be a great choice for a lot of people, but at that price you may as well get an older model Pro, you can still find them new.
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liked "I'm just gonna leave that in"
it's simply because core M3 8100Y is good enough for 80% of people out there.
also its light and easy to use.
If Microsoft make these and include the keyboard alongside the deal it'd basically be the default recommendation for any students out there.
I use the surface go just to sign invoices at work when I am at the customers house. I use Edge draw on PDF feature with black pen. Print to PDF, email the customer after.
SG2 is a computer in the form of a small tablet. Most people interested in this device already have a portable laptop, so they don't need an undersized keyboard. What they need is a surface pen so the SG2 can be used as a tablet that increases their productivity. If you want a laptop get the SP7. Too bad this device was launched after I brought my Tab s6...
I've have been expecting it for about 3 months now. With little to no research someone looking into a Surface product should know and expect the keyboard does not come with it, although Best Buy does sell them in bundles and usually at a better price. I personally have had any no issues with "S" mode which is what I have heard I've called for about 2 years now. And, I like knowing where my apps are coming from. I have never installed Chrome on my other PC's now since the new Edge Chromium is available and in my opinion better than Chrome on PC. Unfortunately bad timing for portable devices on the go, no pun intended. I was really looking forward to the M3 version, but now holding off as I am working only from home.
Joseph Kim I see that. I unfortunately have no need at this point stuck indoors at home. Maybe by the time I need a mobile device again it will be marked down on a holiday sale or something. Although the LTE rarely ever is or was.
Fun Fact, as the Go has a USB port, you can use a cheap keyboard mouse combo like you can do on a desktop. There are even some keyboards that are small. Try that on an iPad with out a series of dongles. Also, the iPad nor your Desktop came with a keyboard either.
Thank god that he doesn’t try to use photoshop on the go 2 and complain about it being underpowered like the Verge did.
This guy doesn’t seem like the best tech reviewer. Keeps bashing the keyboard. Dude just consider that it’s a $500 base and don’t EVER believe the bogus marketing. Yes, an iPad is cheaper with a Logitech Combo Touch, but it’s for someone who already has access to a computer. This is for students who need the OS, but don’t do much heavy work on their PC.
Well said Dan.
This would have been a killer product for 2020... if and only if MS would have included the keyboard within the same price.
I love that you just left the amazing entrance of your wife to the room. Kudos for that.
I have the original Go. Enjoy it but not powerful enough. I already have the pen and keyboard so the core M3 option has some appeal.
$400 for base model without the keyboard. Kb is $99-$129, Pen is $99.
Printer Ink model of business.
Its cheap when you take into account Apple sells you a tablet keyboard for $350. Ipad is way more expensive and less capable with the cheap iOS inside.
@@oscarfeliz9874 Both are stupid expense chain anyway, you buy more after one. If you don't have any need for portable, "smol" computer. Better buy other laptop or even last year Surface Pro, my 2 cents ...
It’s crazy to compare this to the $350 iPad keyboard. The comparable iPad costs $329 or $429, and the matching keyboard cover is $160.
it's literally completely different from the printer ink business model.
Imagine the surface go 3 is compatible with the previous generation's keyboard and pen, you wouldn't need to buy them to upgrade, in the pro line as I understand there's some backwards compatibility with those accessories and the idea is that you don't have to upgrade everything, I think that's good
I was asking for it! I love my surface go 1, use it with the dock to work everyday. I will definitely pick up the core m3 model, finally a faster processor. The Pentium can be quite slow at times.
I have the Go too but I think ill save those 7/800 ish Bucks and spend at least twice for a Pro in 2 or 3 years
What do you use your surface go primarily for?
@CNET, hey nice review. But I have read there is heating issue in some versions of SG2 and SG3. Would you pls specify about it? I am planning to buy either SG2 (Refurbished) or SG3 (New) for basic use like word/excel/you tube viewing as a secondary option but don’t want a roaster. Which version should I opt for basic use?
4GB/64 or 8GB/128?
M3 or Pentium?
Will appreciate your input. Thanks..
Download Throttlestop to get the SG2's Pentium Gold processor to run as fast as an i5 processor.
Unlike high-performance mode, it won't destroy battery life.
I still get around 10 hours of continuous TH-cam viewing.
"...I'm just going to leave that in there" LOL
Surface go and iPad pro are not comparable products price wise. You should be comparing to iPad 10.2 with Smart Keyboard
I bought a surface go 1, and have been using it since august last year (I think that is when I bought it) and I have never had the attached keyboard, nor do I have the urge to do so. I use my go 1 as a second device. I use it as an ebook reader, movie watcher, and email monitor. I don't use it as a heavy lifter. Could I have gotten an ipad to an android tablet to do the same thing? Maybe. But I am not in the ios world at all, and I don't trust android to stay updated for 3+ years. I know my x86 based windows device will continue to receive updates. But I do not have the keyboard, and I have no urge to do so.
So, the tablet portion will bring up an on screen keyboard if you need to reply to an email? If so, that would be great. Just bought the Go-2 and keyboard, but don't need the keyboard when traveling if I can type on the screen. Nobody makes that part clear.
Yes, like a phone, tablet or Surface Pro.
I've had my Surface Go2 for a month now. I purchased all the accessories. The only thing I never use is the pen. Maybe one day.
I dont know how I like that it is 729 for the one with the LTE and Intel M chip and yet you still have to pay more for the keyboard attached and pen. It should vary least come with that keyboard for the price.
4:51 I'm just gonna leave that in 😂
There are two obvious reasons why the keyboard does not come in the box: firstly because you might have the keyboard from the original surface go lying around which is still compatible, and secondly because there are multiple keyboards to choose from.
is there any ipad or surface come with keyboard and pen out of the box? the reviewer seems to be surprise or is he referring to laptop?
Geekbench 5
SG2 m3 chip = 873
2020 base model MBA i3 = 983
Cinebench R20
SG2 m3 chip = 460
2020 bsse model MBA i3 =620
Cost
SG2 me chip = $629US ($40-$50 keyboard / $45-$55 pen at Amazon)
2020 base model MBA i3 = $949US (no pen, touch screen, microSD)
Windows Tennis?
You are sooooo good at this and soooo engaging. I love the way you make reviewing a technical product like reviewing something that might be designed to make life better. You then judge it on whether it does. You reviews are so very human and engaging. And that is coming from an engineer who now helps people to be more human haha. I always feel that when I come to the end of our reviews ... short as they usually are .. that I have simply not had enough of you describing whatever it is. You do that good a job. Please don't say you will stop doing this. You are fab Dan. Just Fab. I love the Surface Go 2 too. Got the first one for my daughter and she loves it. (Thinking I might get the second one for me.... We shall see if I can swing that haha!!) Thanks, for the review and for all the vids you do. Keep up the fantastic work ... The beard suits by the way!
Dude, with the keyboard, this would cost 129 dollars more. The way it works now you can bundle it together to your liking.
Yeah exactly. All reviewers mention this every time but it's well known and even heavily suggested when you buy one to get a keyboard too. This said, it's not a 399 pc as Microsoft like to make out.
Yes, if we bundle through the online Microsoft store there are some good discount deals
Excellent review. Thanks for the Caveat segment.
Misleading review. You can buy used keyboard $58 + Surface pen $35 on Amazon = $93 Total.
Only expensive accessory is the $250 Surface Dock 2.
Is there a place to keep the pen on or in the tablet?
I love the concept, however there are troubling issues. Both models have different processors compared to the 7th gen. IPad and it has less horsepower than my $270 HP Laptop which has an actual Intel I3 Core Processor.
LEGODANIEL ONE These are not competitors to cheap, heavy 15.6” plastic laptops you can buy off the shelf at Walmart for under $300.
These are for people who prioritize ultraportability and premium looks over getting the most processor power per dollar.
Your comment is basically saying nobody should by a Mini Cooper because they could by a base model Ford F-150 with a bigger engine for the same price.
Not every product is for everyone.
@@webcomment8895 that means the surface go sucks for most people.
@@justiceprovider9822 The Surface Go is apparently Microsoft's best-selling Surface product. Its starting price puts it as a direct competitor to ipads and Chrombooks (particularly for schools) and what it lacks in power it makes up for by having a full desktop OS. I have the first gen (top spec) and I use it to run my small business on the go. I was surprised how sufficient it was for my productivity needs - Office, web browsing, emailing and light multimedia (Netflix, TH-cam).
“I’m just gonna leave that in.” Lmao! Thank you. That was pretty funny to me for some strange reason. Not as cute as that one guy and his wife wrangling his kid, but whatever.
Will there be a Surface Go 3 coming out and will there be a Microsoft Surface 8 coming out anytime soon is it worth buying a Microsoft surface 7 and will it run windows 11 when that comes out
Every review of this device points out the need of getting the keyboard cover. Most likely because most reviewers needs a keyboard to write up their review and they always neglect to mention the fact that a ubiquitous bluetooth keyboard can easily connect to this device if needed. Also, no one I can find, except for a musician, actually tried Windows in S mode and he didn't think it was entirely necessary to switch over to full blown windows on a device like this. Even back when netbooks were a thing, full blown Windows 7 wasn't installed on those devices. It's most likely why they don't deep dive into Windows 10 in S mode, because these reviewers are stuck using Chrome and x86 apps for work, even though the chromium version of Edge comes preinstalled in the Go 2 and they never really looked for store related alternatives for x86 apps. This device really isn't meant for work but the Go2 can be used in S mode since most companies already lock down work laptops from installing random software for security and IT reasons. In a lot of cases, most work from home users end up remotely connecting to their office machines and their home computer is basically a thin client which the Surface Go 2 is more capable for this use. Why do these reviewers constantly critique the shortcomings of the Go series and compare it to an iPad when they're simultaneously making a comparison to a tablet OS with a miniature mobile Windows pc? It's like comparing a chromebook to an amazon kindle or fire hd.
Very woodsy environment. Nice timbre😁
The base model is a good deal, but if you upgrade it it starts to cost as much as much better laptops. Just get a basic Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and you are good to go.
And the webcam is great for Zoom.
This new one is 60% faster and has better microphones, and a bigger battery too. It is a good deal.
Interesting to see people say that this can't replace a laptop or most people have a laptop anyway. I currently have the surface pro 4 that I use for school, entertainment, and work. I actually have a laptop that I haven't touched in years since getting my surface. I will be getting the 8 gb memory 128 surface SSD go 2 today so I can have a backup. Slightly concerned about the negative view about the speed so I will be testing it out because I make calls through crm for work. The only thing that I probably should have done differently is not keep my surface pro plugged in all the time so I think that I now need a new battery...ooops I won't make that mistake again. I also bought the accessories online which included the keyboard, a Bluetooth mouse, (docking station but not the Microsoft version because of price and I didn't like the look of it), a second cover that also works as a kickstand and mat, pen, USB c to a adapter so I can use the docking station with my pro as well.. Overall, I paid $715 total for everything brand new.. I have a hate type of relationship for used or renewed electronics and I don't think it was a bad deal. Excited to have two surface devices that will keep me from buying bulky laptops especially since I'm moving out of country and I need portable and lightweight fully functional Microsoft computers to go along with my kindle.
How does this handle coding? I am starting an IT management course in uni and wanted this as it is very light and portable. I was thinking of the m3 version.
Do you think the Go2 will be powerful enough to run Photoshop?
I understand that testing battery life is probably a bit difficult right now as you're stuck at home, but how has it been anyway?
The idea is that you keep your keyboard and upgrade the tablet, when a new one comes out. Saves on waste too.
How come when "the tech community" reviews laptops most reviews review the highest spec or at least mid spec product. When it comes to Surface Go its always the lowest spec. I have the 8gb 128gb Surface Go 1. I got it day one back in 2018. Love it. Work and home. At work with a monitor and keyboard setup, and to then with my 55inch tv at home. Battery could be better but I've converted my life to USB-C everywheeerrrrrrreee!
Reviewers typically don't buy the laptops themselves, but receive one as a curtesy from manufactures, in this case Microsoft.
Microsoft obviously want these reviewers to have the best and smoothest experience, so will only send out highest spec Surface. So as far as reviewing goes, the base spec Surface Go does not exist.
Microsoft could of course forgo on the base model completely, but that would mean losing the possibility of advertising with "Available from $399".
@@HenriZwols did you stop reading the OP's comment after the first sentence?
''Attaches magnetically, connects automatically, it lights up it's got a wonderful trackpad. There's no pairing or connecting that you have to do
I am still using the surface go for 2 years. Now everyone likes the surface go 2. What’s the difference? Should I upgrade??
If you use it like a office computer, stick to what you got.
Wait for the bundle sale...usually around the holidays
Can I ask if the SP1/SP2 type cover 1 or 2 works with the surface go?
Currently have a Surface Pro 1 with a type cover 2 and thinking of getting an SG2 and living off the old type keyboard first while I save up for the new type cover and pen.
the surface go 1/2 use a different type cover connection from the previous devices. actually, I've been told that the covers from "regular" surface gen 4 and up are incompatible with pro 2 (and down) even though the connectors seem like they should be the same. at the very least, when i plugged my pro 2 into a current-gen typecover at the store it did not automatically start working (but i also didn't have an internet connection at the time, so perhaps if i had it would have installed some drivers and it would have worked?) I've bought surface 3 typecovers for my pro 2 (because the width is the same while the pro 3 typecovers are too wide) and that has worked, though.
Before I continue to watch, is this the base model cause I hate reviews that don't review the base model. Like what's the point
EXACTLY
On point
It pisses me off that , no reviewer shows off it in tablet mode when talking about it as a tablet and then they conclude it is not optimized as a tablet...and no one talks about that mini sd expansion....
that’s because tablet mode for windows 10 just isn’t good as it could be
Scott Chiste agreed. If you want mainly touchscreen tablet style, go for something else. But if you want a balance between touchscreen ease, productivity, and media consumption go for the surface.
Because tablet mode sucks ;)
@@enda0man thats not the point, i meant that when you are using surface without a keyboard its better to switch to tablet mode which will be definitely better than desktop... i am not saying its tablet mode is good ,its just works ... i know ipad as tablet is far better but there is a tablet mode in windows which helps... i hope this makes sense
The price is a bit deceiving, when you add it all up its not that affordable for what you get unless you really need a touchscreen. I'd say stay away from the higher configuration, and if you need more than that, go for something with better value.
Surface reviews are apparently easy money for people in this industry. Seriously, Watch _any_ review of a Surface product and they _all_ hit the same beats. Repetitive complaints about the keyboard not being in the box. Repetitive complaints about the Windows Store. Repetitively unfavorable comparisons to the iPad. Repetition of any negative, discriminatory, biasing POV that can be mustered right before a damning with faint praise, half-hearted "recommendation" for any who can stomach such a device.
Nobody who actually knows what they are talking about actually reviews the devices. I know a lot of people who know how to use a thermometer, a stethoscope, and a blood pressure cuff. None of them are doctors. It requires a specialized skill set to take the information you can get from those devices and make use of it to improve or protect someone's health. If a person just commented on the present state of the numbers and concluded someone was sick based on how high or low the numbers were they would not be giving good health advice.
That is all this and most other reviewers do. "Here's another Surface, it does this and that but, hey, the iPad is more popular. If you wanna be 'that guy' get this instead. You do you"
The end.
It would be really nice if CNET put more effort into making its reviews useful for the general public. More expertise and less heavy on the tech myths.
Yes, agree, the Surface Go is not for everyone, but it is for people that understand what it is and that it will fit into their workflow. Of course, the base model is limited, and that it is really only for light tasks, but if that is okay then it will work. The main reason is clearly the size, there is not much out there in Windows land with that form factor, 10-inches never really sold on Windows devices, but I am sure there is a small and niche market that appreciate that MS has not forgotten them.
Personally, I see it as a secondary device, dinky and neat for just doing the stuff you need when on the go. No doubt an iPad would be as good for that workload, but some people just prefer Windows. We are better off having it and although not perfect, I wish battery life was better, and that the M3 model was a tad cheaper, it is comparable with an iPad Air (M3 Version) and the iPad 7 ( -v- Pentium) so the pricing is not too bad.
Thankfully many of us see the reviews and now can read between the lines and make our own more nuanced conclusions.
The windows store deserves every bit of criticism it gets until it's fixed. I've used third party app stores funded by patreon users that work better than the windows store
This device is just crap. Putting a Windows, a desktop OS on a tablet is just.... wtf.
@@mickeyu2893 yeah but you can disable win 10 S. This dude is acting like you cant despite stating you can
@@TheMarouuu have you heard of the surface pro? They done it with that and its awesome and packed with 8-16gb ram and a 10th gen i5 or i7. AND GUESS WHAT. ALL IN A TABLET and i5 8gb version is 1300 AUD. So its not dumb and also what reviewers like this dude forget to mention is that kids who need a tablet but a first laptop can have this. So no the device isnt stupid.
Any idea as to when it might release in India?
I love surface go. Best for students and best product from Microsoft.
I have an Acer laptop for big stuff but I will only be using google docs/classroom and web surfing so I think this is great
What's the over under I could use this to play light steam games like Slay the Spire in bed? Or is it just too weak?
Hey! I have a doubt and maybe someone in the comments can help me: I'm a college student, trying to buy a tablet to carry every day to class to take notes, read pdf, make researches and in the train going home maybe see some youtube videos or Netflix shows... I'm thinking of buying the surface go 2 but I would only be able to afford the 4GB one... or maybe buying the surface go 1 used and I can afford the LTE version... or an old surface pro but I'm afraid that might be too big to carry...
What do you think?? Thank you for reading all of this😂
I have the surface go 1 4gb versión and Im in college and it works just fine for my I watch TH-cam on my long breaks and listen to music in Spotify and for school work it gets the job done (google drive for schoolwork, Microsoft onenote for notes) if you don’t type a lot or have a secondary pc at home don’t buy the keyboard I rarely use it I mostly use the pen to take notes on onenote it gets the job done if you’re at school take the charger with you because it will last like maybe 4-5 hours use taking notes only and turning it off at unimportant times but all in all I like it
The only thing tbf that bothers me about surface tablet product is that they seem like they try to be tablets? Since when you buy them it doesn't come with any attachments like the much needed keyboard. But they aren't really a tablet since they lack several apps. They don't have much storage so if you were to write documents here, which i believe is the main activity u cando here, u won't do it for long. I could be wrong tho, so if somebody got one of this, let me know how it feels
happily in my country store it is but dont know which version i hope it will have 8gb ram and intel m3
A tech reviewer not hearing about 10s for a couple of years........! It’s everywhere on every budget laptop
Hi
Could you please make a video On a comparison between ipad 7th generation and surface go 2( pentium gold)
Loads of people were asking for a more powerful Surface Go with thinner bezels.
And they will still be asking for one. I had the last one with more ram and it was a dog. Just minor tasks made it soooo slow and painful. I put on Ebay and bought a Ipad pro, much better experience.
I mean I agree that the Surface Go 2 should come with the keyboard. Like Microsoft can you at least include the Surface Go 2 with the keyboard? Or not then make the Surface Go 3 with an included keyboard.
go 2 core m-3 is for real. Just got it today and it puts my 2 year old Surface Go to shame.
Windows Ten Dedicated PC version can be used in this?
By the time I finished listening to this review, I was convinced that, with all the limitations, this device is not worth the money.
There’s not a single decent laptop or tablet in the world worth the money to most people
@@gatordonttakenoshiat true
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BATTERY LIFE?! That was the weakest point of the first release and absolutely no mention here??!!
The rest are 'nice to have' upgrades, but the ability to actually plonk it in a shoulder bag and use it all day without having to worry about taking along the charger and hunting an outlet was the big issue.
The battery was crap on the old one, had to run it plugged in most of the time.
So I want this for home. For when I’m in bed at night instead of being on my phone. It Will be on wifi and I want it for online shopping / watching Netflix (when I cbf to connect it to tv) etc
Not so much for work or gaming
would this be good or something else is better ??
s ipad 7 is the better device for your use case i think. The ios / ipados is more mature than a win 10s
I find it amusing that everyone universally seems to think it’s stupid that the Surface doesn’t come with the keyboard included but you never hear anyone make that complaint about the iPad.
I’m thinking of buying it for university, basically I need it for PDFs, Word Documents and research. Does it run smoothly? Even with a couple of apps/pages opened? Anyone here bought this?
To those who have one, how reliable is it? Speed? Hardware?
I think when you look at $400 for the device plus $100 for the keyboard you're really saying gosh I should just buy the Lenovo IdeaPad and just use Chrome OS.
Chrome OS? 🤢
Would this be good for Microsoft office work ?
Ok, so can it or can not run regular windows apps (not from MS Store but like an .exe or .msi installer) ?
It can only run microsoft store apps by default but you can easily disable it from settings.
hero of legend ooh..thanks 👍🏻
Yes, it can operate like any other Windows 10 device... I use a few .exe programs on my Go, but i do try to limit myself as much as possible to apps from the store... They will just keep your computer running smoother.... I recommend that practice to any Windows 10 user.... Check the store first ;)
The thing that keeps me away from the surface go is not coming with the keyboard in the box... It's a laptop not a tablet so why sell the keyboard separate
because you can choose the keyboard you want when it's separate? because if you already have a keyboard you don't have to buy another? i seriously don't get the hardship people have over it not being bundled. it won't magically cost less if they bundled it in.
Go 2has the same problems as the older one. Can get a surface pro 6 used for cheaper than Core M3 Go 2.
by the time you nuy the add one, bump up the processor, etc you may as well get an iPad pro
That's what I did. The iPad pro is a beast!
When working from home means working from a cabin in the woods. Lucky guy!
how to hide the power button and so on
How is the resolution?
As for keyboard $99 is way better than $350, even with pen its $198
I’ve been saying it, the surface go just needed smaller bezels and Microsoft finally listened
Can't we get that exact windows 10 OS on a smartphone form factor?
That is a beautiful place!
If you’re a college student or alumni attach your college email to your Microsoft account it takes $20 off the price of the base model.
Can we make everything 3:2?
Excellent video!
I'm just going to leave that out.....