"Despacito" Mix Engineer Jaycen Joshua - Pensado's Place
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2017
- Dave Pensado Assistant turned Grammy Award Winning Mix Engineer, Jaycen Joshua joins us this week to talk his mix secrets, technique and insight on harmonics, low end, panning, delays, 808s, and working with Dave. This guy drops some serious gems!
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It's insane how I've been trying to mix my vocals to sound good for so long and Jaycen drops the most basic vocal chain and it made such a huge difference.
( EQ hipass 50hz - RVOX - EQ low shelf 300hz - Multiband Comp - Air EQ --- Parallel Comp)
Parallel compress the vocal and then automate it so sometimes it sits in your face and sometimes it doesn't?? Why have I never thought of that! This video is GOLD!
No joke! Loved that tip!
Dexter Bartis Genius right? so many gems in this💯
puppiesinspace Definitely not true ten years or so back and before that, before daw’s were so powerful.
As far as every thing coming down to connections and soft skills ... that’s literally every single area in life, no exceptions. Talent is pretty common. Unless you have that next level 1% talent, it won’t matter if you can’t network, communicate, and find a way to navigate your way in. Having the soft skills to go with talent is rare. The former is probably more important than the latter.
Furthermore, I could give you a long list of bands and artists throughout history that had a certain sound during a period working with a famous engineer/producer, and then sounding like shit when they stopped working with that engineer. Back in the day, it was very noticeable the difference between engineers and there was incredible variability. Nowadays, I would say everything is closer to sounding the same with digital technology, but there is a few percentage point difference that separates the pro-level from the amateur, and it’s apparent to trained ears that set the industry standards. What guys like Jaycen, Mike Dean, Tumay (if we are talking modern hip hop) do is give songs those last percentage points of separation, and they continue to set the standard for how loud a track can be commercially. If you caught that tip from Jaycen in here ... there is definitely some artistry and expertise that go along with their connections and social skills.
@puppiesinspace whaat?
dude this guy is amazing i watched almost every video of pensados place and he is the only one ONLY ONE!!! That shares some real and not philosophical Knowledge thanks for this
Sorry, but philosophical knowledge is the essence of understanding a concept or technique
i agree but not in the the audio word where a principal could be the same but all of the possibilities have different character
IKR dude dope
Engineers who learn the art become better engineers. Artists who learn the science become better artists.
Beautifully said
@brenttauromusic: That's a #SnappleTopFact King
"Can I make a suggestion to say answers that would help the majority of the inside-the-box listeners" what a stand-up guy, truly the best guest on Pensados Place ever!
Can you guys please have Jaycen back on again?? My favorite engineer.
Sick Beats Productions I’m doing a research essay on him right now!
@@ItsMeStyles nice 💪💪
I second this
*Holy arms Jaycen!* Is this guy doin' curls with his NS10s all day??
Lmao 😂
I'm honestly shocked how few subscribers you guys actually have. Makes me feel like I'm really getting an edge by watching this channel haha.
Stay blessed and healthy people, for all these major gemz you have been dropping on the show!
Ти да видиш хахаха
34:18 talking about the Weeknd's vocal chain on reminder
HANDS DOWN the BEST Pensado's Place episode ever! Love this!
check out the previous interview he did on here, its even better
Seen it. Awesome too!
That is so insane, Jaycen went on to mix one of the most famous songs of this decade.
This is blowing my mind.
Dave must be so proud.
Best guest ever! Third time on the show, always sharing so much insight, always killing the game, was blown away to find out he did Despacito etc. Jaycen if you're reading this thank you so much. What a wonderful episode!
I've just realized how much I don't know about mixing.
Same here - I feel you on that one lmao😂
Finally!!! Jaycen has been killing it
Great show! Good to see Jaycen again!!
Great episode. Jaycen is my all-time favorite guest. Love all his interviews.
No doubt
I honestly think this is testament to how much of a genius Dave is that he mentored someone like Jaycen and how much of a beast at mixing he really. I think if I had watched this video at the beginning of my Audio Engineering career in 2013 I think I would have progressed a lot faster, particularly what Jaycen says about the speed of technology and listening to the 'kids'.
I spent years trying to follow the lessons and technical ideologies taught to me at University (which I am still thankful for learning) but the fact was my mixes and not even CLOSE to the right pulse. Watching Pensado's Place for free is honestly such a blessing, thank you guys for sharing all this knowlege with :D
Great episode! One of my favorite mixers!
Jaycen's interviews are by far the best.
This is one of favorites episodes, great job guys!!!
one of the best episodes so far - he shares some amazing knowledge and insights!
CONGRATULATION ON YOUR AWARD. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US GREAT CONTENT CONSISTENTLY.
"my effects team" hahaha wtf?! Taking mixing up a few levels
bubsbeats lol same thing I was thinking
lol ikr
Shyt wild
This might be the best Pensados place episode so far. Thanks guys!
Jay thanks for coming back home where it all began 🙌
Great interview! Lots of gems.
Great Show guys all the best to Jaycen Joshua thank you.
I started rapping just over a year ago and started making beats about 8 months ago. I came here because of 808 and got so much more. Thank you for this guys. I sincerely appreciate it. Within 12 months one of my songs "THIS IS MY LIFE" will be number one.
This has to be the best PP episode. It's, for sure, my favorite.
Loved this episode! Learned so much from it :D
Thank you for this podcast, best episode so far.
so many PRACTICAL gems!!!!
so much value. Thank sir Jaycen
Jaycen Joshua Changed My Life As An Engineer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shout out to the kings, thanks for another amazing episode
This video is immortalised to me now
Joshua's appearances are always the most helpful.
Love this show! Great episode :)
there's one thing that jaycen still has to learn from dave.
humbleness.
Jaycen is amazing!!!
I'm starting at the Blackbird Academy on October 2nd and I can't wait! Hopefully Dave will be a guest speaker! Idk what I would do! Awesome episode!!
God bless you dave, jay. i hope one day i can meet you all, be your friend, work together, making music and make you guys proud. thanks for the inspiration.
Amazing episode!!
Excellent show! Informative and good topics
Wow haven't watched Pensados place in so long, and my favorite engineer pops up on the show. Trim the front part of the 808 and let the kick come through first. Never thought of it. I know what I'm doing now.
same here!!
And Distortion :)
Right?! Killer tip!
Whts the time place for this tip.
That's why that Unforgettable snare is the snare of the year :D
S-Gear is terrific! I actually used it live with a usb midi controller for about a year on standard cover gigs. Great plugin.
this was a very nice episode!
Weekend Reminder Vocal Chain:Fabfilter ProQ2 - Highpass RVox - Compression {More eq} (Specifies a Shelf/Wave curve) ML 4000 McDSP ( 4 Band Multiband Compression) Air EQ (To add a little bit of Top End)Send to parallel trackCLA 2A (Blue Version, to catch peaks etc, Blend to Taste)Hope this helps :)
cla 2a blue version? cl76 no?
can you elaborate more if you know.. about the shelf wave curve he used ?
Luv'd it! Great show!!
I wish there was a channel like this for underground electronic artists/producers
Great episode thank you.
Definitely one of the best
They definitely have an Anakin and Obiwan vibe. It’s awesome one of the best today is a pupil of Pensado.
FUCK YEAH! congrats on the play button. well deserved.
Only the episodes with Jaycen Joshua are the best shows! 3 times now...
learning a lot, thanks for this.
Great episode!! When is Alex tumay coming? My life will be complete after that episode lol
here we go!
Such an informative video.
Great episode
Would love to have a mentor like any of you guys , so fucking awesome
So would using the ADSR controls to shorten the sustain/release on the 808 be the same as using the trim tool or would that be a different effect? 🤔 32:07
"Major key!!!" I literally spit out my coffee.
Excellent!
Congrats on the silver button award !!!
Is there anyway we can get that Blitzberg folder? He’s straight dropping 💎 amazing stuff. Top episode till this day.
does anyone have more info on the harmonic mixing he's talking about? really enjoyed this episode
Another great Pensado's Place - would be great to have a discography / recommended listening for each guest.
this is smart
Wow that was a good show
This episode is just fucking great.
wow such a good time learning
At 37:00, can someone explain scoop shelving like a wave not a bell? Thanks.
Shout out to Jaycen! Sharing them KEYS. =)
Hey guys I just have a question. Why the name “pensados place” ? What does it mean?
What’s up with the trim tool thing he said. He’s only trimming the high frequencies of the 808?
Soooo...can iget that Blitzberg folder? 🤔😉
Pm me
@@natewilliams2426 Yo please let me know if you have any leads! Would be a dream come true !
@@natewilliams2426 ????
can i get it too??
I'm sorry if this question has been posted before, but I would just like to add that it would be GREAT if you could add a segment where you listen to the rough and then the finalised version of a song and just go through the key changes you've made to it. By song I mean the song in it's entirety. No need to even solo out instruments and talk about individual effects, but to just discuss how particular effects glued the mix together. Thanks!
How you guys get perfect content loudness?
One of my favorites, thanks !
the best mix and master engnrng skills are related to discovery by the ear..and not copy or mimic other persons chain of settings , its all about ....knowing the virtual room in your head and the setup of the elements in that virtual room...ofcorse you got to know how the trumpet or piano reacts in different spaces and ambiances , a burning candle cant give a warmth feeling on a sunny day in your livingroom, unless you make the room dark , and let the temperature drop to a cold environment,, this is how you can mimic a warm an romantic moment in your room in daylight en in the middle of the summer...this is what you do exactly in your image of your mix . 1 tip....never mix around a kick.....instead mix around the vocal!!!
mikey mokey SHUT UP
waiting for the itl on pillows cant sleep till i see it
so so gooood
ITS LITT
When asked about Echoes at 49:36 Jaycen says "flip the phase so they`re outside the speaker". I know that there is a setting in Waves H-Delay to switch the Left or Right Phase, but that logically phases out in mono. Is he talking about that or switching the 'whole Phase' if that makes any sense? So switching the whole signal but that wouldn't change anything is it? Would be very happy if someone could explain this! 😊
Just flip one side. Left or Right. See the scope, the wave is going to be horizontally instead of vertical.
“Outside the speakers” is “out of phase” signal. Is an stereo effect, not to be heard in mono.
I would love a Pensado's Place with Boaz
Am right with the vocal chain!? FabFilter Pro Q2 (roll of bottom end 50Hz!?) -> RVOX -> Hi-Shelf (with a high Q to reduce frequencies below at around 400-500Hz) -> McDSP 404 Mulitband Compressor!?! (which is it exactly??) -> Maag AirEQ and then parallel it with blueface CLA 76.....was this correct!?
McDSP MC2000, inside is the four-band multi-band compressor with the name MC404. Not the Maag, it's the Eiosis AirEQ.
@@MeinePrivatVideos do you know what gear he is talking about at the end, 10 am analag gear?????
INVINCIBLE “10M” is a clock from antelope audio.
What do you guys think about his shelving technique (instead of using bells) he's speaking of regarding removing proximity effect and low mid build up on vocals. Do you think he just put a negative low shelf from, lets say, 300-400hz ?
Seems like that is what he meant yes. I don't really know what's the big deal about this because it seems like a standard low cut from 300hz or so.
You mean low shelf ? He says he's using shelving instead of bells. For cuts he says he cuts @50-60hz
Jan Magdevski lost me on this one
Legend
What plugin is he talking about isotope 4, I have the 8 version now, Anyone?
izotope 4, hard to get it now...he is still using izotope 4 on master bus
could anybody help with what he is saying at 49:44 i dont understand the word or the meaning.
"multed"?
he say it earlier in the in the episode too...
please share with us the knowledge if you know what it means
thank you
actually he is saying multi, multiband compression .. i guess
He's talking about splitting a signal into multibands and apply a crossover. Eg: 808 split into low, mid and high frequencies. This gives more control over what you want to process
one of my favorite parts is 25:00-25:45
I wonder whether he means the Waves RVox or the Renaissance compressor? In his deconstruction of Justin Bieber's 'Baby' for Sound On Sound magazine in 2010, he used the Renaissance. Other producers seem to confuse the two.
@@garogarogaro Nope. RVox has an exciter to make the vocal feel like it's in your face. And a gate of course.
And Rcompressor is just a great all-around compressor, especially for vocals. There's the "Warm" sound mode that grabs on vocals really nicely.
How do you find someone to work for when you wanna learn?
This is the second time Ive heard a mixer mention Izotope Ozone 4.
Of Jaycen's 808/Kick trick for 2db of headroom, how much of the 808 are you trimming back?
Need to know this.
you get the scuffham with the Slate digital bundle
tomkillsjerry what is that with slate plugin? I have slate
what does he mean when says trim the front part of the 808? If I trim it I get clicking noises. Have i misunderstood something ?
just duck it with the volume. not actually cutting/trimming. .. just ride the volume down when it hits together.
thanx
It's not volume riding; he was actually talking about trimming the individual 808 hit; he went on to explain that you can draw in a super-quick volume fade after you get it just right, "and then copy paste it". So it's shortening the 808 a tiny, tiny amount, and then fading it in, rather than trying to manage it with a compressor or other automated tool. It's a great way to work - you can zoom in all the way, see the changes in volume represented as you draw them in, tweak it to hit absolutely perfectly with the kick, then paste the result throughout.
just sidechain it to the kick
You can side-chain, of course, but ... he's talking about a much more finely-tuned way of getting the 808 sample out of the way for at most a couple milliseconds, where you can (a) mute the 808 sample entirely for a part of a cycle; (b) draw in a volume curve that's far far shorter than the recovery time of any compressor, so that the 808 hits exactly when you want it, but you just eke out that tiny bit of extra headroom by keeping the front-end of the click entirely with your kick sample, rather than the 808. Hence why he brought it up; everyone side chains, but he feels this gets him an extra degree of control - and loudness - that side-chaining doesn't allow for.
31:23 MY JERKEY! 😂😂😂