Thanks louastia I'm going to be a white rapper friend with hood people. I don't know where to start on music I need studio time how do I produce. When will louastia make Jid documentary when will these questions be answered ill leave that to replys.
No it just that he wasn't necessarily a rapper that stood out to people, so when he passed, and it deeply affected people in the community it made people change their minds and give him a chance. He's a stranger in a culture and art form where he has to carve a unique image. People aren't weird, they can change and evolve over time. Before Divine Feminine he was literally a cookie cutter frat rapper, then he evolved himself. It's how Macklemore ,lil dicky fell off , and nobody cares because they are replaceable (jack Harlow replaced him). If Tyler Continued on the track of making Goblin,Bastard and Cherry Bomb; he wouldve have been another Hopsin or big Sean.
@@lucqq3792 faces was 2021 I said everything before Divine Feminine Which was 10"-15" arguably go:od am was a transational Peorid. His music was never bad, it wasn't SUPER unique at the time watching movies was good .
@@lucqq3792 well I didn't know that, and from what I've seen Faces came out(May 11th 2014) which still lines up with 2014~15 season which still lines up with what I said. His initial Freshman -Junior run gave off the initial impression of who he was then during that 2015ish era His transition became more noticeable but they then people already had their ideology of who he was; Same for Tyler as well even though they evolved well last expectations. You also Have to account for Mac Competition being Extremely stiff. Em,Tyler,Kanye,SchoolBoy Q Kendrick,Drake,Cole,Wayne,Jay. Also Macklemore was around so... That really didn't help either
Pretending that Travis Scott fans disrespecting Mac Miller are “core hip hop fans” and not teenage white boys is really something. Mac miller was one of the few universally respected white rappers
The Beastie Boys, Eminem, Mac Miller, and Paul Wall will always get a pass because they put their soul into the music, they don't just try to sound "cool" they go above and beyond. They try to stand out and actually have style when they spit.
Exactly. They are white HIPHOP artists. Bronson too. That’s why they get respect from actual artists in the game. They respect the craft and didn’t just see it as some money grabbing scheme.
I think Nf puts soul into content, but he built a foundation of sad rap when he was young and now that’s all he’s seen as. I don’t think Nf is on the level of Eminem or beastie boys but he’s not bad by any means. He has nice original flows, good rhymes, if he could just have more rap style beats.
@@JulesLetargomusic fans are so weird when someone die like juice they start praise him and dmx so many I really don’t understand this and this feels like ritual
Thats probably because rap was just adopted by people over seas, its just cool for them and doesnt have cultural meaning. Rap in america has cultural ties to the black community specifically.
@@purrfitazitgetz3365 Exactly, not everything is about race to us, you lot need to chill tf out about black this white that, it seems to be the only thing thay ever comes out of America - black and white issues. In the meantime the rest of the world couldn't give a f about either of you, we're out here looking at the Indigenous of America wondering when they're gonna rise up against both of you and wondering how they put up with either of your bs.
As Eminem said you should be accepted due to skill instead of race and other characteristics. Anyone should be able to do something they want if they work hard enough at it.
@@anonymouspersona4965not really since Em is the biggest rapper of all times in terms of sells, yet 2/3 of his discography is meh to unlistenable... People who complained about Em succes said that if this dude was black he would never had succeded the way he did. Wich is true, technical and cringe rappers weren't that rare at the time...
Well for years and year. White people have tried to claim control on black own things. Even if we try not to include you. You find a way to make a problem and stab people in the back. I mean look at the doc on kid rock. Eminem problem the only one that prove us wrong.
Let's not use Lord Jamar as an example of anything regarding Eminem... his criticisms of the man has nothing to do with the music and is driven by personal reasons. You may as well use a Benzino clip as well lol.
But that's the subject of the video and the entire spectrum has to be addressed to cover both sides. This is Journalism 101, you have to present both sides.
He’s right tho slim Shady fans aren’t majority hip hop fans smh they slim shady fans and white people are the major here so of course he will sell the most records
@@anonymouspersona4965 The themes in that song can all be transferred over. The shooting scene turns from black on black violence into a school shooting.
The racism is a big part why we never will. Why would some kid with a music set up want to join in when he'll just be referred to as culture vulture? It's easier to just do EDM where he won't encounter that problem.
@@Shockguey People need to stop being soft asf, do it for the art, you think people are gonna listen a gender because is easy, nowadays everyone could be a rapper, Asia, Hispanics, Europeans every race too
@@CompaIMR a rapper yes but hip hop is more than just the music, it's about the background of the artist and their experiences, it's urban culture. That's why Eminem was respected, he's not just some white suburban kid he's one of us. He grew up in the shit and his music reflects that. Same reason why a lot of hardcore hip-hop fans never took drake seriously, because he's just some rich kid from Canada.
@@pvtghost117do you think drake gives a fuck what hardcore hip hop fans think when he’s sitting on billions of dollars and drowning in pussy? don’t think so
@@josephmoore643insane longevity as well. They were one of the biggest rap groups on the planet from the mid 80’s to the 2000’s, with nearly every album selling platinum
exactly. This whole video is dumb AF. We have a white rapper problem like the NBA has a white player problem, lol. Show me a better rapper than Eminem or Lil Dicky... Show me a better basketball player than Jokic or Luka... The best rappers and basketball players have been white for a few years now, I didn't think this was a secret.
Just about to say obviously you never heard of the beastie boys but you guys got it. I think the 2 of them are working on something. At least that's what I heard. Hope it's true
@@Mysticalwarlock89 the world doesn t revolve around the hood tho,also there are black people who listen to em so at the end of the day it doesn t matter Also the whole club argument is also wack and bullshit ,with thar logic you get a lot of wack rappers in the goat convo and mkst of the times club music doesn t mean good music ,this logic can be passed to pac jay z nas and pac tho but people would say they don t make club music ,em neither but still smack that was played in an lot of clubs soo....anyone heard em at least once
The thing about G-Eazy is that his sequel album didn't do so well is that because it wasn't promoted enough, he beefed with his old management and there were no music videos for it, he did a deluxe version for the album including his previous releases like Still be friends, Moana and Hate the way but it wasn't enough, above all that, he went on hiatus for like 2 years because of personal issues and right now he is starting to trend after his older songs like Tumblr girls and Lady k***ers are going viral, so I will say that he will be able to make a comeback and return to his old sound that he had over the last decade
This is largely why Hip Hop is dying on the charts. You have a few rappers who make big money but the rest are struggling to make ends meet. This much was evident in the Baby Mama video that their expenses are just as high as their income and even then it's not much. This recent fiasco with Kendrick basically created a monopoly for him. Meanwhile all the white people who used to buy the albums have moved onto EDM because there's no stigma against a white person liking that. Making Hip Hop only centered on Black people has effectively driven out your major audience. This was NEVER the case for Rock where the founders were black but eventually passed on to majority white bands.
@@Shockguey Hip hop came from The streets and struggle and that narrative doesn’t fit white people smh a white boi can rap but he better not speak on black folks topics or use our lingo because use ur own lingo and style and don’t bite off us and we good slim shady
A lot of white underground artists like Aesop Rock and Action Bronson have a lot of respect in the underground, however mainstream wise it’s a different story.
add apathy, vinnie paz, ill bill & esoteric etc. we have a problem with white rappers but nobody bats an eye when whites contribute in other aspects though, be it producers, turntablists and graf writers etc.
I whole heartily believe it's not a race issue but rather a person issue. We just haven't had a goat caliber white rapper since Em. It's not a race issue. It just depends on the rapper. As you said there is a lot of underground white rappers, but they lack the mainstream flair to them. And the other way is also true. There is a lot of mainstream white rappers, but they don't have the underground flavor to them. Hence no one has been the "next white rapper" which in it self is a very stupid term honestly. It's not a race issue. It just happens to be we haven't had a white rapper since Em who can do both.
@@tedthecommenter5364 there are many others also I amnot saying that Eminem not make corney bars some time he make intentionally (saw his interview) and sometimes it's actually an corny bar but also he gives the really good songs and now he proved everything so he just show his skills set and little bit fun of the songs. (When I am gone, castle & arose, my darling, bad guy and there are a lot more if you really check his discography without any biases.
@@anonymouspersona4965 but heres the thing, except us or the uk, hip-hop aint that big as a genre, ppl will know drake, kanye, em, trav scott, snoop dogg and maybe Playboi Carti and Jack Harlow now, and they usually dont care for other hip-hop artists unless ur a hip-hop fan, i come from Sri Lanka, and ngl, here, even Lil Uzi Vert and Tyler The Creator got barely any presence
hiphop is literally worldwide nga what are you talking about. theres graffiti and break dancers and rappers in damn near every single country bruh lol@@yanganaperera8500
I get saying Harlow is declining but recently going #1 is kinda undeniable. I think he needs a multiple hits on his next album to solidify himself in the game
I dnt get why his skin matters on his decline.. he just isnt as poppin as before... 95% of rappers get hot and die out but its a problem cus hes white?
He truly is the evolution of Drake (but worst because Drake is goat level and goats don't come often) Jack just needs to learn how to mesh the mainstream with bars. make the first half of the album That's What They All Say, and second half Jack. But even then he's still gonna run into the Drake issue (people won't give him credit for the rapping rapping and will label him as a melodic rapper/ R&B artist)
@@tychodancer I'm tired of people like you gatekeeping extreme lyrical miracle spiritual rappers like kendrick to be the only worthy type of rappers that are allowed to be goat rappers. Melodic rap is still rap whether you like it or not, and much more consumable than something like a To Pimp A Butterfly or Mr Morale. I respect kendrick for his excellent artistry but to be honest I barely listen to him because he's SOOOOO undigestible, I genuinely don't feel like analyzing a life changing Shakespeare level thesis book when I'm listening to music. I'm just trying to vibe. If you wanna do that cool for you, but don't tell me Drake can't be a goat because YOU don't like him.
Yeah a lot of these dudes put on a front. Post Malone makes good music but people who went to high school with him say he lied a lot about his background
Exactly and also because of vanilla ice’s dumbass, saying that he pave the way for Eminem when he knows damn well that the beastie boys pave the way for Eminem, and they sure as hell pave the way for him as well
@@bandilemajoziiyou says he the best rapper ever? Literally anything could be his favorite rapper. You might as well be saying Lil dicktis better than Kendrick or like tupac
Beastie Boys, El-p, Aesop Rock, RA the Rugged Man, Sage Francis..... You are ignoring some honest greats with massive respect for hip hop as a whole and propelled it forward by adding to it with respect. Then you have Harlow, G eazy, Drake and such who are just using it and have no real respect for it as an art form.
Its not a race game. Its the fact these dudes cannot relate to the black struggle of systemic oppression. The struggle in which hiphop/rap and alot of other genres were born. Eminem gets his props because hes one of us. He crawled straight out of the same gutter we come from, and he worked his ass off to get where he is. He got nothing handed to him, he earned his spot, and took all the hate that came with it. Its hard to relate to spoiled rich kids tryna spit a rhyme when thats not the collective experience of most people.
@@ihatetheserappers basically hes saying that Vanilla ice had 1 really good song but then they fell off in terms of popularity and just generally the rating of their songs. one hit wonder is kind of like a slang it basically means that a song or album that a producer made was really good but the rest of their songs were mediocore or bad.
@@zomboishutsi agree with this mac had great rap albums like good am but as he got older he kind of merged into jazz funk blues mixed with a tiny bit of rap. his music became poetry from the heart and thinking music questioning life love addiction soo deep love it
It’s definitely much easier to come off as corny as a white rapper. And with so many two-week rappers in it for a cash-grab, it makes sense why people get skeptical when the next white rapper steps up. It’s important to understand this going into it. Gaining peers respect in rap over a long period of time is nothing new, (it’s just a bit harder for the white folks.) Remember the history of the genre before you even step in it, and pay respect to those who paved the path before you. As a white rapper myself, hopefully one day soon I can prove to anyone who cares about my music that my intentions are pure. ❤
@@tedthecommenter5364 When you cherry-pick his worst lines like that, it's easy to call him corny. Not all of his lines are hitters, but he hits more often than most.
Melonhead is a joke, and no one should be listening to him about anything. Fatano doesn't have actual opinions, he justs says what he thinks his audience wants him to say. I wouldn't even be shocked if he didn't actually listen to the music he "reviews".
@@user-op6kt8pg9y Oh I know. He's a total joke. Sometimes he really doesn't listen to the albums, I wasn't kidding about that part. He just politically disagrees with them, so he calls the music trash...
the issue ppl have with white rappers and even other black ones is when they dnt respect the genre. The white rappers always just turn it into "its because i'm white"... Em is one of the few that actually knew the history and stuff. Thats the reason alot of old rappers dont like new ones is the same reason they didnt like white ones. They just jump into it for money then jump out. With the whit rappers its alittle worst because alot of them will change the whole way they talk to sound like they are from a urban area then when they get big they leave hiphop and change to their normal voice. Mac, Em was a rare couple that didnt do that. MGK too tbh.
@@Nyahami yeah...its not really a white thing is just a respect thing. Like you said if folk music was the thing they all would be doing that. The mumble rappers would literally not even know who DMX or anyone from the past is. Just a money grab
Em was/is authentic, that’s one of the main reasons he was able to stay around for so long! His skills and also not being scared to say whatever the heck was on his mind, did the rest! I’m black and I’ve always loved Em! Fk what Jamar is saying 🥱
Em is good but when it come talent skills storytelling pac biggie nas Kendrick if he win every decame Grammy you something cuz white people always give him
My favorite white rappers are $uicideboy$, Sematary, Bladee, BONES, Lil Ugly Mane, Mac, and Lil Peep. I can't f**k with lyrical spiritual miracle rappers like nf, tom macdonald, token, and anything em released after eminem show because their music is corny (tom macdonald is racist music), and because the people who like their music are 13 year old nathans who thinks playboi carti is mumble crap and thinks that nf is superior to any rapper with autotune
He would probably be lower, being white gave him extra attention because of the extra controversy (not to say he wouldn’t be controversial is he was black) and the extra attention led to extra success. People hated on him for being white but the hate actually worked in his favor, I’d argue. That’s not to say he doesn’t deserve to be top 5, he most certainly does.
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Only people in USA give a single f**k about color of the skin. Honestly y'all are stuck in the past. Move on and except that music is for everyone. When you play a song it's either dope or not.
That was the style back then for that level of rapper, look at Hammer. At least he wasn't wearing skirts. All those album sales were people going to the store and buying a tape, CD or record. With out his money, no Death Row Records. First big selling solo rapper that was white. He paid his dues and then some. Word to your mother!!
back in 2020 he was openly using the n word around royce da 5'9s (black) dj, although the details are murky. royce even dissed him on the fucking banger "Overcomer". "yelawolf this is your first and last pass i aint gon put it on blast your punk ass know what this about". @@jaimewilson3644
@@anonymouspersona4965 Yep, and he can't actually put aside his own OUTSIDE political opinions to listen to something genuinely. He shouldn't be reviewing music at all.
@@anonymouspersona4965 "basically outside of Kendrick all rappers are mid to him" - What the fuck are you talkin about, Fantano loves hip hop and has given positive reviews to so many great hip hop artists, he's annoying but you're just sayin shit that isn't true
As someone who lives in another continent and only listens to some Spotify mixes and didn’t know who’s white or black, I can only advice to just enjoy the song regardless of skin
@TheSassyKitten, Right On! I agree, great advice my friend, preach! "Music is the Universal Language of the World" that doesn't see race, color or creed. Music's all about the vibe & energy it creates for all of us to enjoy & share with each other around the world, period. Easy-Peasy! We should all be grateful to have ALL the music we do to listen to today. Just think if we were born in the Ice age the only thing we'd have to listen to back then was some pissed off caveman beating 2 sticks on the ground bcuz he couldn't figure out how to start a fire yet. However, soon after he realized he created the first beat in music. Just saying... 😂😜🤣 Blah,ha,ha!!! +Peace Funk & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul My Friend+ 🤘😎🤘
bro rappers are rappers white or black we listen to rap because it sounds good and if the bars are good then what does it matter if there white or black just listen to music and not listen to them because of there skin color
Eminem is just so fucking great they couldn't stop him and had to acknowledge him, yet you still find some racists that can't accept that he is actually the goat.
Why are you insisting on making him the goat? Why don’t just say “he’s very good”?? You want to make him the goat because you want him to be the goat. He has never rapped better than Nas or Black Thought or K-Rhino etc. It’s like Columbus coming to America and even though there are already natives living in it, he claims to have Discovered America. Just because you like Corny rap which lacks substance doesn’t mean true hiphop heads do.
He insisted on making Eminem the GOAT because he is the GOAT. Except mayyyybe Tupac. Sorry but Em is a better MC than Nas. And most people have no idea who Black Thought or K-Rhino even are. Lol really? At the very least eminem is on the Mount Rushmore of Hip Hop along with the all time greats. Lyrically em is untouchable and even most of the rap greats will openly admit that themselves. Why is there someone always triggered by eminem being called the GOAT? Every time, yall can not get to that keyboard fast enough to whine that em is overrated or famous just because he is white. And that somehow Em fans aren't "real" fans of hip hop. But guess what? We also call him the goat because we are allowed to have our own opinions. My opinion is that Em is the GOAT. An opinion also shared by millions of others. You so called "true" hip hop fans are in a minority. And your Columbus analogy makes no sense since eminem never claimed to discover rap. So please spare us your lectures because nobody cares. . Lol K-Rhino.
@@molokoplus0612lol em fans don’t even listen to hip hop music. It’s funny how you say em is better than Nas but em constantly puts him up as the goat with illmatic
@@molokoplus0612 It's "triggering" because the only white rapper on the list is proclaimed as the GOAT. It'd be one thing if he actually were the undisputed GOAT, but he's not and putting him above the 5 or 6 truly great Hip Hop artists who IMO have contributed more unique and innovative stuff than Eminem, and it seems to me as I imagine to other Black people like it's just another way of saying White people are superior than Black people in every way because in what world does "see the best person in a black person's game is a whote guy" not sound offensive to black people, it'd suck if it were true but it's just offensive especially when it's not. Hip Hop at the end of the day is storytelling while rhyming in a cool way on a mesmerizing beat, and I just don't think Eminem has done it better and/or more than the other great rappers like Kendrick, Biggie, 2 Pac, LIL Wayne etc.
Eminems success maintained because he transformed an Original style of hip-hop & continued to evolve with the times. Alot of these other white rappers make "bubble gum rap" and or didn't blueprint their own style like Em did. The biggest white rapper next to Em is not Harlow. It's NF because he's the closest to embody this trait
Its sad that Uk white rappers like Fliptrix or Verb t are so underrated and make music for 10+ years now. Fliptrix his wordplay on " 4owls - assasionation" is unmatched
How come Eminem doesn’t make music with the newer detroit rappers ? Ie: icewear vezzo, peezy, baby money, sada baby etc. would give a major boost to those artists & Detroit as well as increase Em’s relevancy for younger rap fans …
As a white boy who lives in a hard life and who also writes bars,I agree with this.Many people told me just cuz I was white, I couldn’t rap.i hate being brought down just cuz the color of my skin. Now that’s racism.
You get brought down for a few seconds because of your skin colour. The majority of the hiphop community get brought down EVERY day because of their skin colour. Keep it pushing and stop whining
@@sirchadiusmaximusiii 90% of artist's in the hiphop community. Most are minority races who get brought down and discriminated against inside and OUTSIDE of hiphop. This is done though race micro aggressions and etc. this talented artist from the MAJORITY race, is hurt that a community is not in favor of his skin color. I can understand that its not fair, however it is hard to feel completely empathic, knowing the vast majority of spaces in this world, are always in favor of his skin color. This is just the one space that is not as a whole.
@@Ty-nh8gz I don’t get brought down for a few seconds, I get brought down all my life.And I’m not whining about my treatment,I’m exposing it.I do agree that the majority of the rap community gets brought down by people OUTSIDE of their community, but I get brought down while being in it by guys who do the same stuff as me, just with a different skin color
True but to be fair that is mostly because almost all of hip hop/rap is made up of black people so it makes so much more sense that there would be more black unrelevant artists
I hated this video so much lol, same. It boiled my blood sitting through all of it. It should be only how good you are as a rapper and what you offer, who cares of what race you are? Clearly the journalist and critics I guess lol
Hey, that's not fair to Vanilla Ice. People didn't hate on him for being white. That's simply not true. People hated on him because he was corny as fuck and ice ice baby was a horrible fucking song hahaahaha
I’ve always been convinced that the people have always hated Eminem for being successful have finally gotten their time in the Sun and are now seeking to “right that wrong”. They all assumed that Vanilla Ice would be the Rule and Eminem the exception to said rule, but then more came along and their whole “Culture Vulture” argument started to fall flat once they were faced with the fact that once you share something with THE WORLD AT LARGE…it no longer stays “your culture” At least…if you buy into the whole “Centralization” mentality
If anyone needed an example of gatekeeping, all they have to do is look at rap and all the hoops anyone who isn't black or relates to the struggle of black people in America have to jump through to be remotely accepted, let alone respected.
Similar to how black people get scrutinized, denied and blocked from all kinds of spaces every single day due to institutional and systemic racism just because of the color of our skin? Funny how that works right?
i mean, if you're authentic thats fine. but if you're like lil mabu and pretending to be hood no shit ppl arent gonna like you. a lot of white rappers are super gimmicky
Surprised no mention of $uicideboy$, Pouya, Bones or ghostemane. They have kinda cultivated their own fan base but pull in more streams than a lot of the people you mentioned
He had some personal issues and disappeared from the scene apart from that, he is still getting the Justin Timberlake treatment after what G-Eazy did to Halsey
Or even Macklemore. The uproar about him sweeping the Grammy's over Kendrick is still one of the strongest controversies in award music ceremony history.
Venezuelan, colombian and spanish hip hop is keeping the roots alive regardless of color. Shout out to anyone here who might know el dojo, mbz, ziontifik, mde click, dano lil supa n-wise
Artists should be appreciated for the music they create and how much work they put into their music, songwriting and creating their own individual sound regardless of the color of their skin. I’ve also noticed how white rappers seem to get compared to Eminem simply because of their skin color. I remember seeing an interview of G-Eazy saying he doesn’t like being compared to Eminem because he’s his own artist and has his own sound. Personally I don’t think the 2 artists sound similar at all and agree that it’s unfair to constantly compare the 2. It’s also very disappointing to see that Mac only got the praise he deserved after his passing.
I said that Swimming was better than Astroworld the day they both came out and to this day I can say YES Swimming was by far the best project to come out that year even though Astroworld is also lit.
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Thanks louastia I'm going to be a white rapper friend with hood people. I don't know where to start on music I need studio time how do I produce. When will louastia make Jid documentary when will these questions be answered ill leave that to replys.
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I definitely noticed how EVERYONE changed their opinion on Mac after his passing. People are weird af
No it just that he wasn't necessarily a rapper that stood out to people, so when he passed, and it deeply affected people in the community it made people change their minds and give him a chance.
He's a stranger in a culture and art form where he has to carve a unique image.
People aren't weird, they can change and evolve over time.
Before Divine Feminine he was literally a cookie cutter frat rapper, then he evolved himself.
It's how Macklemore ,lil dicky fell off , and nobody cares because they are replaceable (jack Harlow replaced him).
If Tyler Continued on the track of making Goblin,Bastard and Cherry Bomb; he wouldve have been another Hopsin or big Sean.
@@Synical02faces is frat rap?
@@lucqq3792 faces was 2021
I said everything before Divine Feminine
Which was
10"-15" arguably go:od am was a transational Peorid.
His music was never bad, it wasn't SUPER unique at the time watching movies was good .
@@Synical02 faces was 2013.... they released it as an album officially cus it was a mixtape
@@lucqq3792 well I didn't know that, and from what I've seen Faces came out(May 11th 2014) which still lines up with 2014~15 season which still lines up with what I said.
His initial Freshman -Junior run gave off the initial impression of who he was then during that 2015ish era His transition became more noticeable but they then people already had their ideology of who he was; Same for Tyler as well even though they evolved well last expectations.
You also Have to account for Mac Competition being Extremely stiff.
Em,Tyler,Kanye,SchoolBoy Q Kendrick,Drake,Cole,Wayne,Jay.
Also Macklemore was around so... That really didn't help either
Pretending that Travis Scott fans disrespecting Mac Miller are “core hip hop fans” and not teenage white boys is really something. Mac miller was one of the few universally respected white rappers
The Beastie Boys, Eminem, Mac Miller, and Paul Wall will always get a pass because they put their soul into the music, they don't just try to sound "cool" they go above and beyond. They try to stand out and actually have style when they spit.
Exactly. They are white HIPHOP artists. Bronson too. That’s why they get respect from actual artists in the game. They respect the craft and didn’t just see it as some money grabbing scheme.
I think Nf puts soul into content, but he built a foundation of sad rap when he was young and now that’s all he’s seen as. I don’t think Nf is on the level of Eminem or beastie boys but he’s not bad by any means. He has nice original flows, good rhymes, if he could just have more rap style beats.
Yeah, he had some bangers on hope but the whole album overdid the cinematic beat thing. I live it when he sings
@@SammyFash yeah a little bit which diminishes its replay value but fantano was so wrong for its rating. Hope is by no means a bad album
Post Malone as well.
Why is there a narrative that when a rapper dies suddenly they’re a legend like give the em their flowers While they’re here.
Happens with rockstars, all musicians tbh.
@@JulesLetargomusic fans are so weird when someone die like juice they start praise him and dmx so many I really don’t understand this and this feels like ritual
@@Dexter0170Yeah and I will say its always been a thing but I think that trend started heatin up when XXX died.
@@Dexter0170
U like hip hop or u just consume hip hop content
@Dexter0170 DMX has always had a presence in the game though.
"Hip Hop in the USA has a 'white rapper' problem" feels like a more appropriate title, the UK has plenty of great rappers black, white or purple
Dude exactly!! I'm trilingual and this only an American problem lol
Uk drill it real good
Thats probably because rap was just adopted by people over seas, its just cool for them and doesnt have cultural meaning. Rap in america has cultural ties to the black community specifically.
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Thank you ! People overseas don’t understand the true politics of hip hop and just like hop because it’s cool
@@purrfitazitgetz3365 Exactly, not everything is about race to us, you lot need to chill tf out about black this white that, it seems to be the only thing thay ever comes out of America - black and white issues. In the meantime the rest of the world couldn't give a f about either of you, we're out here looking at the Indigenous of America wondering when they're gonna rise up against both of you and wondering how they put up with either of your bs.
As Eminem said you should be accepted due to skill instead of race and other characteristics. Anyone should be able to do something they want if they work hard enough at it.
unfortunately we live in a racist world
Of course, people should all of a sudden be judged by their talents and not their skin when it's a white inconvenience lol.
It’s not his skin it’s his subject matter
@@Demsky83 It is legit because of his race. He is white, so it must mean sucks at rapping. Not racist, just stereotyping.
@@anonymouspersona4965not really since Em is the biggest rapper of all times in terms of sells, yet 2/3 of his discography is meh to unlistenable...
People who complained about Em succes said that if this dude was black he would never had succeded the way he did. Wich is true, technical and cringe rappers weren't that rare at the time...
It’s a shame how people judge the color of their skin instead of their bars.🤦🏿
Well for years and year. White people have tried to claim control on black own things. Even if we try not to include you. You find a way to make a problem and stab people in the back. I mean look at the doc on kid rock. Eminem problem the only one that prove us wrong.
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the racism was turned around onto them 😭🙏👉🏾👌🏾
That's awfully hot coffee pot 😂😂😂
Spiritual lyrical jibberish.
You're racist if you think that
Let's not use Lord Jamar as an example of anything regarding Eminem... his criticisms of the man has nothing to do with the music and is driven by personal reasons. You may as well use a Benzino clip as well lol.
This guy's entire channel is based of negativity, he will use anybody who says anything stupid just for clicks and shock value.
But that's the subject of the video and the entire spectrum has to be addressed to cover both sides.
This is Journalism 101, you have to present both sides.
He’s right tho slim
Shady fans aren’t majority hip hop fans smh they slim shady fans and white people are the major here so of course he will sell the most records
@purrfitazitgetz3365 no way you're saying Em is big because he's white, and white people are the majority, rather than because his music is good.
@@PearlPredator yeh I did and im not a hata lose urself is the only song I listen to and yes hes big because hes white
its crazy how music is like the one thing you don't need eyes to be able to enjoy and yet somehow colour still plays a huge part
Childish Gambino's This Is America has entered the chat
@anonymouspersona4965 that's more of the exception rather than the rule
MFs is strange.
@@anonymouspersona4965 The themes in that song can all be transferred over.
The shooting scene turns from black on black violence into a school shooting.
It's getting worse too. I've never seen the country this divided.
"Until we see another Eminem" alright guys, make sure you bring a lunch and some pillows, we're gonna be here a very long time.
The racism is a big part why we never will.
Why would some kid with a music set up want to join in when he'll just be referred to as culture vulture?
It's easier to just do EDM where he won't encounter that problem.
@@Shockguey People need to stop being soft asf, do it for the art, you think people are gonna listen a gender because is easy, nowadays everyone could be a rapper, Asia, Hispanics, Europeans every race too
@@CompaIMR a rapper yes but hip hop is more than just the music, it's about the background of the artist and their experiences, it's urban culture. That's why Eminem was respected, he's not just some white suburban kid he's one of us. He grew up in the shit and his music reflects that.
Same reason why a lot of hardcore hip-hop fans never took drake seriously, because he's just some rich kid from Canada.
@@pvtghost117 Yes it's true, but why I need to talk about the streets, and not about my experiences in life, nah drake is a meme 💀
@@pvtghost117do you think drake gives a fuck what hardcore hip hop fans think when he’s sitting on billions of dollars and drowning in pussy? don’t think so
Beastie boys were the first white rap group ever to go platinum. This was before vanilla ice
They have a much longer story than most people think. Beastie boys were always pushing styles, they deserve more respect than ATLEAST vanilla ice.
@@josephmoore643insane longevity as well. They were one of the biggest rap groups on the planet from the mid 80’s to the 2000’s, with nearly every album selling platinum
exactly. This whole video is dumb AF.
We have a white rapper problem like the NBA has a white player problem, lol.
Show me a better rapper than Eminem or Lil Dicky...
Show me a better basketball player than Jokic or Luka...
The best rappers and basketball players have been white for a few years now, I didn't think this was a secret.
Just about to say obviously you never heard of the beastie boys but you guys got it. I think the 2 of them are working on something. At least that's what I heard. Hope it's true
Beastie Boys mad respect
"We don't listen to Eminem"
Something so false could never be said again 💀
That s why he ended up as the most watched rapper on yt last time and still 2 nd on spotify after drake despite not dropping in almost 4 years
Think he was talking bout you casual black male from the hood. They're not riding around bumping Eminem new stuff
@@Mysticalwarlock89 the world doesn t revolve around the hood tho,also there are black people who listen to em so at the end of the day it doesn t matter
Also the whole club argument is also wack and bullshit ,with thar logic you get a lot of wack rappers in the goat convo and mkst of the times club music doesn t mean good music ,this logic can be passed to pac jay z nas and pac tho but people would say they don t make club music ,em neither but still smack that was played in an lot of clubs soo....anyone heard em at least once
We don’t listen to Eminem!
@@mauriluciano1780 You dont*
Eminem is the only rapper that doesn't have a problem in rap
thats why he the goat
@@louaista agreed
Paul Wall…
Frfr
@@GotaBeMusikthankyou bro among many others
People just be saying whatever it’s ridiculous
The thing about G-Eazy is that his sequel album didn't do so well is that because it wasn't promoted enough, he beefed with his old management and there were no music videos for it, he did a deluxe version for the album including his previous releases like Still be friends, Moana and Hate the way but it wasn't enough, above all that, he went on hiatus for like 2 years because of personal issues and right now he is starting to trend after his older songs like Tumblr girls and Lady k***ers are going viral, so I will say that he will be able to make a comeback and return to his old sound that he had over the last decade
i loved lady killers but dont understand why he made a second third. seems like he was desperately trying to get back what he had before
mac millers evolution is definitely worth some major respect
I didn't like him at first, but he grew on me.
People still stuck on skin tone and how much melanin you got. As long as you good at rapping and make good music who gives af.
give me a high five!
Thank you, exactly. We’re all one in Christ. Galatians 3:28.
This is largely why Hip Hop is dying on the charts. You have a few rappers who make big money but the rest are struggling to make ends meet. This much was evident in the Baby Mama video that their expenses are just as high as their income and even then it's not much.
This recent fiasco with Kendrick basically created a monopoly for him.
Meanwhile all the white people who used to buy the albums have moved onto EDM because there's no stigma against a white person liking that. Making Hip Hop only centered on Black people has effectively driven out your major audience.
This was NEVER the case for Rock where the founders were black but eventually passed on to majority white bands.
You should always pay respect to the genre though
@@Shockguey
Hip hop came from
The streets and struggle and that narrative doesn’t fit white people smh a white boi can rap but he better not speak on black folks topics or use our lingo because use ur own lingo and style and don’t bite off us and we good slim shady
Paul Wall is the only white rapper that was never given flack honestly.
cus he never was pretending to be something he wasnt
@@Tuelz... Facts
Or, 3rd Bass (and they were Hewish too).
You don’t even listen to him just commenting because you saw someone else’s comment npc
@@ezoloka you probably wasn't even born when he came out. I was. Cooked your goofy ass. Nerd
A lot of white underground artists like Aesop Rock and Action Bronson have a lot of respect in the underground, however mainstream wise it’s a different story.
add apathy, vinnie paz, ill bill & esoteric etc. we have a problem with white rappers but nobody bats an eye when whites contribute in other aspects though, be it producers, turntablists and graf writers etc.
I whole heartily believe it's not a race issue but rather a person issue. We just haven't had a goat caliber white rapper since Em. It's not a race issue. It just depends on the rapper. As you said there is a lot of underground white rappers, but they lack the mainstream flair to them. And the other way is also true. There is a lot of mainstream white rappers, but they don't have the underground flavor to them. Hence no one has been the "next white rapper" which in it self is a very stupid term honestly. It's not a race issue. It just happens to be we haven't had a white rapper since Em who can do both.
Exactly. Besides Em, I listen to none of these guys. Never heard anyone say anything bad about Action Bronson or Rittz though.
El-P gets recognized too
El-P is a great artist as well
Antony Fantano has been proven to be a hypocrite
Hate the guy
@@sleekism definitely what a hater this guy can be
Why
He's a clown
he an old head opium is the future he cannot accept
All of a sudden another million white rappers emerge -Eminem
and a bunch of them make way better music than ems new shit, his new music is corny dad jokes
@@tedthecommenter5364lol he 51 he past the dad jokes stage
@@tedthecommenter5364yes darkness, walk on water are the dad jokes 🤣🤣🤦
@@chinmayyagnik5968 you named 2 songs
@@tedthecommenter5364 there are many others also I amnot saying that Eminem not make corney bars some time he make intentionally (saw his interview) and sometimes it's actually an corny bar but also he gives the really good songs and now he proved everything so he just show his skills set and little bit fun of the songs. (When I am gone, castle & arose, my darling, bad guy and there are a lot more if you really check his discography without any biases.
America with racial problems
So true, I haven't heard of this "white rapper problem" in other countries
no one hates white rappers because they're white, it's because they never try anything new, mac's considered a goat, and he tried something new
@@anonymouspersona4965 but heres the thing, except us or the uk, hip-hop aint that big as a genre, ppl will know drake, kanye, em, trav scott, snoop dogg and maybe Playboi Carti and Jack Harlow now, and they usually dont care for other hip-hop artists unless ur a hip-hop fan, i come from Sri Lanka, and ngl, here, even Lil Uzi Vert and Tyler The Creator got barely any presence
hiphop is literally worldwide nga what are you talking about. theres graffiti and break dancers and rappers in damn near every single country bruh lol@@yanganaperera8500
@@yanganaperera8500 thats some nonsense hip hop is big everywhere
I get saying Harlow is declining but recently going #1 is kinda undeniable. I think he needs a multiple hits on his next album to solidify himself in the game
I dnt get why his skin matters on his decline.. he just isnt as poppin as before... 95% of rappers get hot and die out but its a problem cus hes white?
He truly is the evolution of Drake (but worst because Drake is goat level and goats don't come often) Jack just needs to learn how to mesh the mainstream with bars. make the first half of the album That's What They All Say, and second half Jack. But even then he's still gonna run into the Drake issue (people won't give him credit for the rapping rapping and will label him as a melodic rapper/ R&B artist)
@@anonymouspersona4965Drake is not at all a goat. He’s bubble gum rap. Chew it up, spit it out. Hasn’t impressed me with lyrics for a decade.
@@tychodancer I'm tired of people like you gatekeeping extreme lyrical miracle spiritual rappers like kendrick to be the only worthy type of rappers that are allowed to be goat rappers. Melodic rap is still rap whether you like it or not, and much more consumable than something like a To Pimp A Butterfly or Mr Morale. I respect kendrick for his excellent artistry but to be honest I barely listen to him because he's SOOOOO undigestible, I genuinely don't feel like analyzing a life changing Shakespeare level thesis book when I'm listening to music. I'm just trying to vibe. If you wanna do that cool for you, but don't tell me Drake can't be a goat because YOU don't like him.
@@tychodancerBro thinks his opinion is God.
Jack Harlow wasn't truly built to last in the industry.
Jack Harlow called himself Hard. That's peak comedy right there.
hes not that bad lmao
Yeah a lot of these dudes put on a front. Post Malone makes good music but people who went to high school with him say he lied a lot about his background
the irony of him on River Road saying he thought he sounded corny before to then say that is comical
Yeah it's totally a problem having like 12 white rappers in a sea of thousands of black ones.
I mean it’s our culture…
@@FastCarNascar That's the thing I don't understand why it can't be American culture, I know the history and all of that
@@FastCarNascarno it's not
@@beefwrapyes it is 😭
@FastCarNascar nice bait.
The Beastie Boys had hits before vanilla ice
3rd bass as well. This expose is lazy af
Exactly and also because of vanilla ice’s dumbass, saying that he pave the way for Eminem when he knows damn well that the beastie boys pave the way for Eminem, and they sure as hell pave the way for him as well
This youtuber is corny and never does his research. Never letting the algorhithm sway me again.
He said Vanilla Ice was the first to go "chart-topping", meaning the first to go number 1.
I don't think the Beastie Boys ever went number 1.
Beasties transcended hip hop they were making rock music by the end of their run basically. no disrespect they Goated tho
Say what you want about Lil Dicky, everything he's achieved is still super impressive
Still corny
yeah hes ass
@@CalmWorldCohe better than your favorite rapper
@@bandilemajoziiyou says he the best rapper ever? Literally anything could be his favorite rapper. You might as well be saying Lil dicktis better than Kendrick or like tupac
@@CalmWorldCostill corny🤓
The Paul Wall disrespect is crazy....
You’re my sugar, daddy
Exactly bro Paul Wall gets no love and recognition
Louista just jock ridding.
Who after 2006 is listening to him still 😭? Stop it
Nah Paul and swisher house is the reason these rappers go crazy on grillz and lean.
Eminem is the only white rapper with longevity
52 yr old rapper still sale more then drake
El-p action bronson ra the rugged man mac miller aseop rock???
Beastie Boys, El-p, Aesop Rock, RA the Rugged Man, Sage Francis..... You are ignoring some honest greats with massive respect for hip hop as a whole and propelled it forward by adding to it with respect. Then you have Harlow, G eazy, Drake and such who are just using it and have no real respect for it as an art form.
Really
Most people know vin
Its not a race game. Its the fact these dudes cannot relate to the black struggle of systemic oppression. The struggle in which hiphop/rap and alot of other genres were born. Eminem gets his props because hes one of us. He crawled straight out of the same gutter we come from, and he worked his ass off to get where he is. He got nothing handed to him, he earned his spot, and took all the hate that came with it.
Its hard to relate to spoiled rich kids tryna spit a rhyme when thats not the collective experience of most people.
Finally, some truth provided here!
What about the Black people in rap who grew up ok? Like Dr. Dre and Ice T?
vanilla ice was a one hit wonder
fax
What do you define as an "one hit wonder"?
@@ihatetheserappers basically hes saying that Vanilla ice had 1 really good song but then they fell off in terms of popularity and just generally the rating of their songs.
one hit wonder is kind of like a slang it basically means that a song or album that a producer made was really good but the rest of their songs were mediocore or bad.
@@ihatetheserappers 1 hit song
@@ebear1 what do you consider as a hit song
Paul wall a h town legend. Bro was selling grills b4 anything.
A lot of those Houston rappers had their own businesses before hip-hop. Hip-hop was a secondary act for them. They were true hustlers.
Mac millers swimming is arguably one of the greatest rap projects of the 2010s...love your content lou 🔥🔥
macs earlier projects way better imo, after he passed away, swimming grew on me a bit but its still boring in comparison
@@akoinsaneIts beautiful
Swimming is so beautiful
Circles got me in tears
Thing with Mac is he went beyond rap, I wouldn't necessarily call Swimming a rap album, I'd say his last rap album was Go:od am
@@zomboishutsi agree with this mac had great rap albums like good am but as he got older he kind of merged into jazz funk blues mixed with a tiny bit of rap. his music became poetry from the heart and thinking music questioning life love addiction soo deep love it
It’s definitely much easier to come off as corny as a white rapper. And with so many two-week rappers in it for a cash-grab, it makes sense why people get skeptical when the next white rapper steps up. It’s important to understand this going into it. Gaining peers respect in rap over a long period of time is nothing new, (it’s just a bit harder for the white folks.) Remember the history of the genre before you even step in it, and pay respect to those who paved the path before you. As a white rapper myself, hopefully one day soon I can prove to anyone who cares about my music that my intentions are pure. ❤
I been listening to Eminem for so many years now... I'm black btw, don't let the screen name fool you. I'm more Cleveland Brown 😂
Legendary Rakim once said, " If Em was black he'd be the next Muhammad ali man! "
So he'd be a boxer or what?
@@edschelchang6123…He’d be cut from the same cloth.
"THATS AN AWFULLY HOT COFFEE POT" - Em
Eminems corny white fans "WHOA BARS THEY JUST GO OVER PPLS HEADS"
Nah they don't, he makes dad joke bars now
@@tedthecommenter5364 When you cherry-pick his worst lines like that, it's easy to call him corny. Not all of his lines are hitters, but he hits more often than most.
@@tedthecommenter5364🤡
Melonhead is a joke, and no one should be listening to him about anything. Fatano doesn't have actual opinions, he justs says what he thinks his audience wants him to say. I wouldn't even be shocked if he didn't actually listen to the music he "reviews".
I feel the same way about Joe Budden. Nobody should be listening to some middle-aged man who one hit 25 yrs ago.
@@TexasChick45the difference is Joe had a career in rap both popular and underground. Fantano is just a talking head. A melon head.
He changed his whole political opinions and ideals because someone called him out for 1 thing he did, he has 0 spine
@@TexasChick45 Completely agreed. Add Charlemagne tha Shorty to that list. Only without the one hit Budden had...That wasn't even that popular.
@@user-op6kt8pg9y Oh I know. He's a total joke. Sometimes he really doesn't listen to the albums, I wasn't kidding about that part. He just politically disagrees with them, so he calls the music trash...
This video is very SunnyV2 style and I love it
Love that you mentioned Aesop Rock, El-p and Slug ( the emcee in atmosphere ) .
Please shine some light on artists like this!!!!!!
Slug is one of my favourites, he always gets overlooked so I get excited whenever someone mentions him
Cage
"Black people can't me racist." - Louaista
I think you missed a massive opportunity to talk about the beastie boys, this would have been the perfect video for it
the issue ppl have with white rappers and even other black ones is when they dnt respect the genre. The white rappers always just turn it into "its because i'm white"... Em is one of the few that actually knew the history and stuff. Thats the reason alot of old rappers dont like new ones is the same reason they didnt like white ones. They just jump into it for money then jump out. With the whit rappers its alittle worst because alot of them will change the whole way they talk to sound like they are from a urban area then when they get big they leave hiphop and change to their normal voice. Mac, Em was a rare couple that didnt do that. MGK too tbh.
@@Nyahami yeah...its not really a white thing is just a respect thing. Like you said if folk music was the thing they all would be doing that. The mumble rappers would literally not even know who DMX or anyone from the past is. Just a money grab
That's not true
dude grew up in a rough neighborhood and it molded him
Em was/is authentic, that’s one of the main reasons he was able to stay around for so long! His skills and also not being scared to say whatever the heck was on his mind, did the rest!
I’m black and I’ve always loved Em! Fk what Jamar is saying 🥱
Em is good but when it come talent skills storytelling pac biggie nas Kendrick if he win every decame Grammy you something cuz white people always give him
Mac miller and Eminem are not just only great white rappers, Mac miller is extremely respected and Eminem is literally everyone’s top 5.
Not my top five
@@I_enjoy_memes good for you ?
7:19 bro to listen to jack Harlow saying he is the second best is like ice spice saying that she is the next Tupac 😂
Why can’t music just be music
It is but not all music is hip-hop. Jack Harlow Mac Miller MGK all that's hip hop inspired. Not Hip Hop
My favorite white rappers are $uicideboy$, Sematary, Bladee, BONES, Lil Ugly Mane, Mac, and Lil Peep. I can't f**k with lyrical spiritual miracle rappers like nf, tom macdonald, token, and anything em released after eminem show because their music is corny (tom macdonald is racist music), and because the people who like their music are 13 year old nathans who thinks playboi carti is mumble crap and thinks that nf is superior to any rapper with autotune
Thanks for showing love to the underground legends! And thanks for another great video.
Bro vanilla ice’s jaw line is precise he kinda looks like a animated character for a cartoon I like it ngl
I thought he was advertising a Vape 💀
Em said him heign white was the only reason why he couldnt be number one and not why he was top 5
I need receipts.
He would probably be lower, being white gave him extra attention because of the extra controversy (not to say he wouldn’t be controversial is he was black) and the extra attention led to extra success. People hated on him for being white but the hate actually worked in his favor, I’d argue. That’s not to say he doesn’t deserve to be top 5, he most certainly does.
@@PinkaholicOfficialBut he would be top 1 if he's black tho? Jay-Z doesn't hold a candle at all to Em. Even Kendrick is so much better than Jay-Z
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Only people in USA give a single f**k about color of the skin. Honestly y'all are stuck in the past. Move on and except that music is for everyone. When you play a song it's either dope or not.
Evrope is rising.
So true. In the UK, they collaborate!
Vanilla ice was called corny because the way he talked wasn’t how he really talked. Also dressed goofy af.
That was the style back then for that level of rapper, look at Hammer. At least he wasn't wearing skirts. All those album sales were people going to the store and buying a tape, CD or record. With out his money, no Death Row Records. First big selling solo rapper that was white. He paid his dues and then some. Word to your mother!!
@@Saiza-Inc.Recordskids don't understand
Yelawolf is madly underrated
And he's still droppin tunes, good man
yeah? i'll try listening to him more
Yelawolf is also madly racist🔥
@@Dashiellwyndhamoh shit what he do I only know him from one train and I always skip his shit 🗑️🔥
back in 2020 he was openly using the n word around royce da 5'9s (black) dj, although the details are murky. royce even dissed him on the fucking banger "Overcomer". "yelawolf this is your first and last pass i aint gon put it on blast your punk ass know what this about". @@jaimewilson3644
Damn calling out Fantano 😅🤣
Fatano is a joke
@@whateverwhatever4026 He's so annoying, basically outside of Kendrick all rappers are mid to him which is absolutely not the case
@@anonymouspersona4965 Yep, and he can't actually put aside his own OUTSIDE political opinions to listen to something genuinely. He shouldn't be reviewing music at all.
@@whateverwhatever4026 yeah, he will deduct a point if an album had like F slur or some homophobic stuff 😂
@@anonymouspersona4965 "basically outside of Kendrick all rappers are mid to him" - What the fuck are you talkin about, Fantano loves hip hop and has given positive reviews to so many great hip hop artists, he's annoying but you're just sayin shit that isn't true
no mention of Beastie Boys or even Bubba Sparxxx??
louaista finally did a sponsor let s go!!!
As someone who lives in another continent and only listens to some Spotify mixes and didn’t know who’s white or black, I can only advice to just enjoy the song regardless of skin
Sounds about white
They don’t care i mean this video itself its like black are the only one allowed to rap!
@TheSassyKitten, Right On! I agree, great advice my friend, preach! "Music is the Universal Language of the World" that doesn't see race, color or creed. Music's all about the vibe & energy it creates for all of us to enjoy & share with each other around the world, period. Easy-Peasy! We should all be grateful to have ALL the music we do to listen to today. Just think if we were born in the Ice age the only thing we'd have to listen to back then was some pissed off caveman beating 2 sticks on the ground bcuz he couldn't figure out how to start a fire yet. However, soon after he realized he created the first beat in music. Just saying... 😂😜🤣 Blah,ha,ha!!! +Peace Funk & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul My Friend+ 🤘😎🤘
Failed to mention Yeat he’s been killing it these past few years
sad world we live in
Fantano didn’t changed the score because of his death he’s changed his opinion on other albums before simply because he understands it better
bro rappers are rappers white or black we listen to rap because it sounds good and if the bars are good then what does it matter if there white or black just listen to music and not listen to them because of there skin color
Exactly!!
Yeah, it’s just white rappers are usually more corny and fake which is why they don’t last as long.
Sometimes, color is more important to others than the music. Yes, sad reality.
That's American mentality for u lul
@@HunterKemp-yk4gb you're trying to make hip hop inspired white rap. You can't make hip hop that only comes from foundational black Americans
Eminem is just so fucking great they couldn't stop him and had to acknowledge him, yet you still find some racists that can't accept that he is actually the goat.
Why are you insisting on making him the goat? Why don’t just say “he’s very good”?? You want to make him the goat because you want him to be the goat. He has never rapped better than Nas or Black Thought or K-Rhino etc. It’s like Columbus coming to America and even though there are already natives living in it, he claims to have Discovered America. Just because you like Corny rap which lacks substance doesn’t mean true hiphop heads do.
He insisted on making Eminem the GOAT because he is the GOAT. Except mayyyybe Tupac. Sorry but Em is a better MC than Nas. And most people have no idea who Black Thought or K-Rhino even are. Lol really? At the very least eminem is on the Mount Rushmore of Hip Hop along with the all time greats. Lyrically em is untouchable and even most of the rap greats will openly admit that themselves.
Why is there someone always triggered by eminem being called the GOAT? Every time, yall can not get to that keyboard fast enough to whine that em is overrated or famous just because he is white. And that somehow Em fans aren't "real" fans of hip hop. But guess what? We also call him the goat because we are allowed to have our own opinions. My opinion is that Em is the GOAT. An opinion also shared by millions of others. You so called "true" hip hop fans are in a minority. And your Columbus analogy makes no sense since eminem never claimed to discover rap. So please spare us your lectures because nobody cares. . Lol K-Rhino.
@@molokoplus0612lol em fans don’t even listen to hip hop music. It’s funny how you say em is better than Nas but em constantly puts him up as the goat with illmatic
He's a great rapper and among the greatest, but he's not the goat. It's not racist to say that.
@@molokoplus0612 It's "triggering" because the only white rapper on the list is proclaimed as the GOAT. It'd be one thing if he actually were the undisputed GOAT, but he's not and putting him above the 5 or 6 truly great Hip Hop artists who IMO have contributed more unique and innovative stuff than Eminem, and it seems to me as I imagine to other Black people like it's just another way of saying White people are superior than Black people in every way because in what world does "see the best person in a black person's game is a whote guy" not sound offensive to black people, it'd suck if it were true but it's just offensive especially when it's not.
Hip Hop at the end of the day is storytelling while rhyming in a cool way on a mesmerizing beat, and I just don't think Eminem has done it better and/or more than the other great rappers like Kendrick, Biggie, 2 Pac, LIL Wayne etc.
Eminems success maintained because he transformed an Original style of hip-hop & continued to evolve with the times. Alot of these other white rappers make "bubble gum rap" and or didn't blueprint their own style like Em did.
The biggest white rapper next to Em is not Harlow. It's NF because he's the closest to embody this trait
Its sad that Uk white rappers like Fliptrix or Verb t are so underrated and make music for 10+ years now. Fliptrix his wordplay on " 4owls - assasionation" is unmatched
😢 i feel like NF dont get enough credit he go just as hard as Eminem 😢❤
Facts!!!!! Jack Harlow is mentioned and not nf
@dm2727x nf has some great music a lot of his songs hit past the 5 to 10M mark on yt
How come Eminem doesn’t make music with the newer detroit rappers ? Ie: icewear vezzo, peezy, baby money, sada baby etc. would give a major boost to those artists & Detroit as well as increase Em’s relevancy for younger rap fans …
He did something like that a few years ago and I don’t think it worked out.
I need em on gmac remix about the detroit sign🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
We have a SunnyV2 clone problem on TH-cam.
Im so glad you shouted out RA the Rugged Man!! Dude is so slept on!!!
In terms of rap lyrical skill is all that matters if you can't see that you obviously weren't paying attention in literature
@@D-CELLZ you're trying to make hip hop inspired white rap. You can't make hip hop that only comes from foundational black Americans
As a white boy who lives in a hard life and who also writes bars,I agree with this.Many people told me just cuz I was white, I couldn’t rap.i hate being brought down just cuz the color of my skin. Now that’s racism.
Indeed
You get brought down for a few seconds because of your skin colour.
The majority of the hiphop community get brought down EVERY day because of their skin colour.
Keep it pushing and stop whining
@@Ty-nh8gzWho gets brought down “EVERY day” for the color of their skin in the hip hop community? Name them.
@@sirchadiusmaximusiii 90% of artist's in the hiphop community. Most are minority races who get brought down and discriminated against inside and OUTSIDE of hiphop. This is done though race micro aggressions and etc.
this talented artist from the MAJORITY race, is hurt that a community is not in favor of his skin color. I can understand that its not fair, however it is hard to feel completely empathic, knowing the vast majority of spaces in this world, are always in favor of his skin color. This is just the one space that is not as a whole.
@@Ty-nh8gz I don’t get brought down for a few seconds, I get brought down all my life.And I’m not whining about my treatment,I’m exposing it.I do agree that the majority of the rap community gets brought down by people OUTSIDE of their community, but I get brought down while being in it by guys who do the same stuff as me, just with a different skin color
brodi it aint their skin colour its their bars, like there hundredths of black rappers who can barely stay relevant too
True but to be fair that is mostly because almost all of hip hop/rap is made up of black people so it makes so much more sense that there would be more black unrelevant artists
And yet 95% of the critically acclaimed rappers are all straight cis black men?
OMFG you just remembered me one of my all time favorite rappers, Aesop Rock. I havent heard his stuff for years cause i just forgot him THANK YOU
Mac would still be huge if he didn't pass
Its sad that the mainstream issue in the world and not only in the music industry, is the colour of the skin
I hated this video so much lol, same. It boiled my blood sitting through all of it. It should be only how good you are as a rapper and what you offer, who cares of what race you are? Clearly the journalist and critics I guess lol
Exactly
@@TrixSA you're trying to make hip hop inspired white rap. You can't make hip hop that only comes from foundational black Americans
Hey, that's not fair to Vanilla Ice. People didn't hate on him for being white. That's simply not true. People hated on him because he was corny as fuck and ice ice baby was a horrible fucking song hahaahaha
I’ve always been convinced that the people have always hated Eminem for being successful have finally gotten their time in the Sun and are now seeking to “right that wrong”.
They all assumed that Vanilla Ice would be the Rule and Eminem the exception to said rule, but then more came along and their whole “Culture Vulture” argument started to fall flat once they were faced with the fact that once you share something with THE WORLD AT LARGE…it no longer stays “your culture”
At least…if you buy into the whole “Centralization” mentality
Forgot to mention Drake is one of the biggest White rappers😂
drake is more of a mass entertainer
Drake is half black right?
Beastie
3rd Bass
Non Phixon
I can keep going on. Vanilla Ice is NOT the 1st chart topping rapper nor the 1st notable "white rapper"
With the other non-mentioned rappers, what about Logic and NF too?
Logic is biracial for god's sake lmao
@@anonymouspersona4965same thing with Fat Joe? Cause he is white by appearance but he says the n word cause of the Hispanic race
didn't you know logic is biracial
"Best white rapper" when did that become a thing?
😂😂😂you see there is already segregation in rap music
If anyone needed an example of gatekeeping, all they have to do is look at rap and all the hoops anyone who isn't black or relates to the struggle of black people in America have to jump through to be remotely accepted, let alone respected.
Similar to how black people get scrutinized, denied and blocked from all kinds of spaces every single day due to institutional and systemic racism just because of the color of our skin? Funny how that works right?
i mean, if you're authentic thats fine. but if you're like lil mabu and pretending to be hood no shit ppl arent gonna like you. a lot of white rappers are super gimmicky
At least white rappers can make a whole song without using the "N" word and that makes white rappers one step above black rappers
REACISIM IS REALL!!!
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER !!!
There will never be another Eminem that man is a monster
"Asher Rosssh"... What happened to your voice there fam? Lolol
I said the same thing 🤣
@@whateverwhatever4026 Glad I'm not crazy LOL
Surprised no mention of $uicideboy$, Pouya, Bones or ghostemane. They have kinda cultivated their own fan base but pull in more streams than a lot of the people you mentioned
Ruby & Scrim being in their own lane completely >>>
What happened to G-Eazy. I actually liked some of his music
@@MrAde-jy3uu you're trying to make hip hop inspired white rap. You can't make hip hop that only comes from foundational black Americans
He had some personal issues and disappeared from the scene apart from that, he is still getting the Justin Timberlake treatment after what G-Eazy did to Halsey
@@MrAde-jy3uu he's white rap he's not hip hop. Geazy is hip hop inspired at best
Eminem gave us 50, D12, G Unit, Tony Yayo, Griselda. He’s the goat cuz he is a true a student of Hip Hop
50 was already popular sorry.
@@Marcustrh you're trying to make hip hop inspired white rap. You can't make hip hop that only comes from foundational black Americans
Not the goat he’s your goat
@@Marcustrh Tupac is the goat
How does kid rock not make the white rapper special lol ?
Or even Macklemore. The uproar about him sweeping the Grammy's over Kendrick is still one of the strongest controversies in award music ceremony history.
Venezuelan, colombian and spanish hip hop is keeping the roots alive regardless of color. Shout out to anyone here who might know el dojo, mbz, ziontifik, mde click, dano lil supa n-wise
Judging albums on sales makes no sense anymore because the majority of people don’t listen to vinyl or CD records like they did back in the day
Music is music it doesn't matter the color of the singer's skin
At least Eminem has encouraged other white or other people from different races to rap
Lol musician need to sell an image in their genres. If it is about true music, then 90% of hip hop won't be about sex, money, violent .
Artists should be appreciated for the music they create and how much work they put into their music, songwriting and creating their own individual sound regardless of the color of their skin. I’ve also noticed how white rappers seem to get compared to Eminem simply because of their skin color. I remember seeing an interview of G-Eazy saying he doesn’t like being compared to Eminem because he’s his own artist and has his own sound. Personally I don’t think the 2 artists sound similar at all and agree that it’s unfair to constantly compare the 2. It’s also very disappointing to see that Mac only got the praise he deserved after his passing.
well said
As far as white rappers Eminem still holds the Crown.
I said that Swimming was better than Astroworld the day they both came out and to this day I can say YES Swimming was by far the best project to come out that year even though Astroworld is also lit.
16:03 “asap rock” don’t do my man like that