The Paul Sellers Plywood Workbench | Episode 2

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  • @TheDoosh79
    @TheDoosh79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing more British than drifting in and out of metric/imperial measurements, love it!

  • @Kkuts37
    @Kkuts37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr. Sellers, You are such a joy to watch. I save your videos, and watch them at the end of the day. They are very relaxing. Your techniques and talent are second to none. Thank you for all you do. Regards from the United States.

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I was 9 years old, my late mother bought me a carpenter box, with some "real" metal tools; a saw, a hammer, a chisel, etc. Ever since that day I have been fond of woodworking. I never had a real bench, so I finally will make one. This looks like a fun project. Thank you for making this series.

    • @funkyjohnhuie
      @funkyjohnhuie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome story and awesome memory. Do your mom proud. 👍🏽

  • @ADevelopingMind
    @ADevelopingMind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I cannot wait to build one of these; your tutorials are a journey into craftsmanship that only a few can appreciate. The art of construction is being lost with the advent of so many modern tools, and the $100k workshops. You've proven that a few tools can do a better job. Thank you!

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use a mixture of power tools and traditional techniques.

    • @bradleyroon7639
      @bradleyroon7639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on the mind of the woodworker, doesn't it? Does that mind have both the knowledge and patience to pay attention to the little details that are necessary for finish work and furniture building?

  • @mmgross144
    @mmgross144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sitting on your Workmate is absolutely brilliant! I now have the solution to my sitting bench/saw bench dilemma! I'm always picking up gems that you drop!

  • @mattevans-koch9353
    @mattevans-koch9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This workbench is going to look spectacular with the many layers of plywood being visible and adding so much visual texture. Thank you for the wonderful video. Have a good weekend.

  • @silverfox8801
    @silverfox8801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This guy is a national treasure 👍🇬🇧

    • @joegiotta7580
      @joegiotta7580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’d say international 🙂

  • @crystalsoulslayer
    @crystalsoulslayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That nail trick is great. It's incredible how cleanly the plywood layers blend into each other. Very interesting design! I look forward to seeing more.

  • @MrPhoenix1800
    @MrPhoenix1800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like that trick with the nails with the outer piece of wood.

  • @davidbrousseau4591
    @davidbrousseau4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Paul really enjoyed the video on the workbench. I think I'm going to give it a try. thank you

  • @MG-vo7is
    @MG-vo7is 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm enjoying this series.

  • @richardlegg8758
    @richardlegg8758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Paul for sharing all of your knowledge and expertise.

  • @michaelbunn1465
    @michaelbunn1465 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoying the series....I used the short countersink drill bits that I get from my local big box store and I love the finish they leave. Thanks for the video!

  • @johnlittle1137
    @johnlittle1137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Paul a good tip for reducing slippage, one I found on TH-cam is sprinkle salt on the piece that your glueing then put them together and clamp.
    At first I was skeptical if it would work but I tried it and it works.

  • @chefeahmed
    @chefeahmed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Paul!
    I'm learning a lot from your videos. Your content is great!
    That trick with the nail, at the end, was awesome and really clever.
    Best regards and cheers from Brazil.

  • @WiliamBennettwildarbennett
    @WiliamBennettwildarbennett 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the idea of using the cut nails to act as alignment pins for the glue.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Screws also act as a clamp. If you can plan them into your builds they can make life very easy. You can also pre drill the screw holes if you desire before gluing.

  • @HistoricHomePlans
    @HistoricHomePlans 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for sharing these ideas. I can't wait to make one myself. I can see quite a lot of nice, functional furniture being made this way.

  • @thomasarussellsr
    @thomasarussellsr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the locator pin tip near the end. Thanks for sharing that bit.

  • @ChunkySteveo
    @ChunkySteveo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What the... you can't just leave us waiting again, haha! Looking great Paul!

    • @ptj6412
      @ptj6412 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep!! we want everything built, and in detail in 10 minutes. LOL

  • @johnkelley9877
    @johnkelley9877 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is shaping up to a great looking and very useful bench. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

  • @BrassGrain
    @BrassGrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This project is coming along so nicely

  • @caskwith
    @caskwith 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bandsaw is a great tool for these kids of jobs. I use mine all the time, partly because it just does a good job but also because it is set up and easy to use. I have a mitre saw and a table saw but the bandsaw still gets used the most.

  • @lexislandscape8345
    @lexislandscape8345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love your videos!

  • @robertw.1499
    @robertw.1499 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't you have 61,465,271 subscribers Paul. You are a wealth of information 👍Wouldn't it have been just as good to use brad nails with the glue-up?

  • @bttModeler
    @bttModeler 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also use dowels to avoid slippage, if you don't want some metal inside your glued components. And thanks for the trick with nails, I knew it already, but forgot to use!)

  • @clemmcguinness1087
    @clemmcguinness1087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the nails technique!

  • @beerancher3225
    @beerancher3225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul and others , disregard my previous comment re downloading plans . I've just found that the link works perfectly from the Introduction video description. I've downloaded the plans , thank you.

  • @moustafaajam4670
    @moustafaajam4670 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the nail trick ,thank you for that because i need it a lot

  • @green_building
    @green_building 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes finally episode 2 is uploaded 😊

  • @trooperjoe73
    @trooperjoe73 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure to see you work. Great video.

  • @RossMitchellsProfile
    @RossMitchellsProfile 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it funny how much protection you have for using that bandsaw. Pretty much all they made us use back when I was in highschool was a pair of goggles. Didn't even have dust extraction. Weirdly for how safety paranoid they were they weren't that paranoid about dust. Only machine that had any sort of dust extraction was the lathe due to the mess it made.

    • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
      @thedevilinthecircuit1414 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not so funny when you know most all plywood contains adhesive resins that contain formaldehyde and other not-so-nice chemicals. When they become airborne fine dust particles they are a real problem. This is one of the good reasons to use hand tools for woodworking: very little fine dust like that created by powered machines.

  • @jrkorman
    @jrkorman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is going to make a nice bench, especially as fairly straight wood is getting harder to come by. I've been sitting here listening to the one background music that's being used and knew I've heard it. About 6 minutes into Pink Floyd's, Atom Heart Mother, Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast!

  • @robertmansell3667
    @robertmansell3667 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth watching just for the panel pin tip👍

  • @AdeAhmat
    @AdeAhmat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've downloaded the plan. Your hand writing is beautiful. No wonder if your woodworking skill is amazing. btw, I see that way :)

  • @jeffkerr4249
    @jeffkerr4249 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Paul.

  • @MrWaffle47
    @MrWaffle47 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the idea behind,this project and of course the flawless,execution keep,up the grest videos!

  • @joselrodriguez5999
    @joselrodriguez5999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the project! Only wonder why he prefers band saw+planer vs. cutting the boards square in a table saw.

    • @orowoodworks5413
      @orowoodworks5413 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bandsaw has a small footprint, is significantly safer than a table saw, and is perfectly capable of making square cuts. Plus, the bandsaw is much better (and safer) for resawing.

  • @redmandesigns8924
    @redmandesigns8924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grate videos as always mate

    • @GuillaumeVachon
      @GuillaumeVachon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheesy comment (pun intended).

  • @TomasFaalPetersson
    @TomasFaalPetersson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Paul, thank you for bringing us great videos, and thank you for not adding background music :-) I have one question, what kind of mask is that, does it have a built-in fan?

    • @paulsellers7953
      @paulsellers7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a Trend and yes it has a battery fan that filters the air I breath and also works wonderfully for keeping me cool.

    • @harlowchandlerjr.6371
      @harlowchandlerjr.6371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it is a Trend Airshield Air-Circulating Pro. Costs around $400 in the USA if it is, which is rather pricey unless you care about living a long time without debilitating or fatal lung disease. But remember that it will not protect you if you take it off from the very small and very dangerous particles that remain suspended in the air for hours or even days. Use whole shop air filtration too as I believe Mr Sellers does.

  • @hassanal-mosawi6049
    @hassanal-mosawi6049 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing that

  • @louisnemick1939
    @louisnemick1939 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to watch a master at work.

  • @wickdghost3639
    @wickdghost3639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's actually much cleaner if you have a scrap piece of wood to back the piece you are screwing through, it great reduces the splintering and blow out from the bit coming out the back. And that goes for plywood and solid wood. Just a little helpful tip

  • @mrcoutts1211
    @mrcoutts1211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Snipping the pins to for alignment Genius.

  • @1970tonyhill
    @1970tonyhill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My woodwork teacher at school used to roar at us if you didn’t lay the plane on its side when not in use. Explaining that it would damage the blade if we placed it face down. I’ve noticed you just put them face down.

  • @viewfromtheroad2656
    @viewfromtheroad2656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I use table salt as a tooth to prevent slipping in a glue up. It has zero effect on the glue bond.

    • @slick05123
      @slick05123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came to say this exact thing, glad to see it here already.

  • @jeffforbes3772
    @jeffforbes3772 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir!

  • @howardhagadorn9443
    @howardhagadorn9443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've made something like this before, but with only three layers of plywood. I laid out two legs, put the stretchers across them, cut the middle layer of the legs to fit and glued and screwed them all together at once being careful of everything being square. I was kinda surprised you didn't use that method. Is it a matter of not having the surface to work on? Or is there some flaw in my method?

  • @kevinronald4137
    @kevinronald4137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Paul, wonderful tutoring. Can I ask though what PVA glue you use. I shall be building this soon. Thank you.

  • @guitstikkustoms4448
    @guitstikkustoms4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful work as always Paul but I was wondering, why didn't you use a shooting board to true up those pieces at 6:35 ?

  • @dianeernest1660
    @dianeernest1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do beautiful work. I’m going to make a plywood workbench just like yours. How many sheets of plywood did you buy ?

  • @demacherius1
    @demacherius1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a reason you glued up the top as you did? I'm thinking about just laminating two or three together the "normal" way.

  • @bobd.
    @bobd. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, is there a reason you didn't cut all the rail pieces at once on the bandsaw, it certainly has the capacity. Then all your pieces would be the same length. If you were off +/- 1/64" they would all still be the same.

  • @christofix
    @christofix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:13 this litle workbench brings memories. My dad had one like this. But i never saw hem sitting on it hahaha. I use the technique on 35:05 too! Great video man, i have enjoyed it!

    • @mm9773
      @mm9773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can still buy them or pick them up used for next to nothing. I never sit on it either, but I do use it quite frequently. The low height is good for some tasks.

    • @christofix
      @christofix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mm9773 when i started working 20 years ago i have used this workbench from my dad, and it is like you said, it has a good height for some tasks. Maybe i will buy some workbench like this, just to remember the good old days with my dad! Thanks for your comment M M! greetings Christofix

  • @beerancher3225
    @beerancher3225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, I am watching your workbench series with great interest as I need a bench for my workshop , and this one looks pretty good so far .I am however having difficulty finding the PDF drawings ,via the link to your website .I have tried everything I know (not much ) to find the info , to no avail .Help ! What must I o to find the plan?

  • @fletchlives8639
    @fletchlives8639 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I was recently given a good few boards of 3/4" baltic birch plywood. And I was going to make a Dutch tool chest with it. Is it worth trying to dovetail it. Can plywood be dovetailed by hand. Or does it have to be done by router, which ido have?

  • @lynxg4641
    @lynxg4641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been watching lots of wood working videos and there one thing I notice and don't understand - when using a band saw, why not use the fence to ensure squarer cuts if it's there? It's like trying to pour something into a small hole, spilling it everywhere, when there's a funnel sitting right next to you, makes no sense to me at all.

  • @Troopermaz
    @Troopermaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series as always, I always learn alot from watching you. What glue would you recommend? As a newcomer to woodworking i am a bit mystified about all the different types/brands of glues that are available

    • @paulsellers7953
      @paulsellers7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to recommend as it depends on where you live.

    • @Troopermaz
      @Troopermaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulsellers7953 I am just up the road from yourself in Wiltshire

  • @worrapsfalcon
    @worrapsfalcon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank's you master !

  • @barryducret1052
    @barryducret1052 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What may I ask is the difference between a bridal joint and a corner housing joint when you build up the pieces as you are doing? Surely it was unnecessary to remove the piece from the tenon and put another bit on the end of the mortice, just leave it on the tenon and glue it up. Since you are not building it out of solid wood there is no reason to fabricate it as though you were.

  • @phillipjones3342
    @phillipjones3342 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw this already I guess off of your blog

    • @paulsellers7953
      @paulsellers7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think so. It has not been on my blog, Philip.

  • @thesultanmerchant
    @thesultanmerchant 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    when cutting plywood cut is made precisely on marking or thickness of blade is considered and then cut plywood?

  • @thomasdrouin3643
    @thomasdrouin3643 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if I missed it but how many sheets of plywood are used? Thanks.

  • @yobentley7274
    @yobentley7274 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the concept. Can I make one with a 2x4 material top?

    • @Cowboy_Ash
      @Cowboy_Ash 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can but you will have to deal with twisted or cupped boards. And depending on the species of wood you choose, it maybe lighter than plywood. You decide if that’s good or bad.

    • @vijayprabhu8863
      @vijayprabhu8863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul Seller has 2 other workbench series, you could check them out, if you are inclined to go the 2x4 way
      Or you could check his blog

  • @billfeatherstone83
    @billfeatherstone83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi the bench is just the job can i get a copy of the plans

  • @MrJKellerLewis
    @MrJKellerLewis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many sheets of plywood did the entire project take?

  • @bradleyroon7639
    @bradleyroon7639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard you can sprinkle salt on the glue to stop slippage...

  • @zachstarr6475
    @zachstarr6475 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if this has been brought up yet. I've heard of people using salt to prevent slippage. Has anyone tried this? Does it work?

    • @theoPhobiaz
      @theoPhobiaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zach Starr It does. Works great.

  • @frankstover3444
    @frankstover3444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glue slippage during clamping/screwing...spread blue sprinkle some salt into wet glue press together the flip

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How will salt affect glue chemical bonding?

  • @bryanmoir
    @bryanmoir 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not just glue the legs together instead of screwing them if there is even the remote chance of putting in a dog hole or attaching some other accessory? Is there that much movement in plywood that the screws are a better option?

    • @harlowchandlerjr.6371
      @harlowchandlerjr.6371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In part one he made it clear it is only to speed up the project--no waiting for clamps to come off. Obviously it also makes it possible to assemble multiple pieces without having to have a huge number of clamps. I'd prefer not to use screws myself, but what he is doing makes sense if you are sure, as he is, that you'll never be drilling into a screw. So, as he says, do it whichever way works for you.

  • @RichardGirou
    @RichardGirou 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Project idea. Work mate type table.

  • @AnthonyBowman
    @AnthonyBowman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always added a bit of salt on glue-ups like that. Helps a lot with slippage.

    • @stevebosun7410
      @stevebosun7410 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never thought of that. I'll certainly try it next time.

  • @kiaya007
    @kiaya007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day Paul. I was wondering... Given that plywood is quite flat are you not worried that it may warp as you are tightening the screws? I ask because I was always shown to tighten them from the middle out to avoid warping the plywood but I see you start from the corner. So is that not such a big deal after all or am I just being to fastidious? Thanks my friend. I watch all your videos. Most more than once because there is so much to learn and i enjoy your style. OMG I love the nail trick to avoid slippage. Thank You so much for that one.

    • @paulsellers7953
      @paulsellers7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      On lesser grades of plywood I might work from the centre out, those that are already warped or likely to. This stuff does not warp.

  • @jeffreyblessing4011
    @jeffreyblessing4011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add a few grains of salt into the glue surface and you won't have to worry about slippage.

  • @eddyrozema4064
    @eddyrozema4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the big helmet?

  • @jackbriscoe1504
    @jackbriscoe1504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you use a backer board when you drill you won't have as much to clean up.

  • @shawngeraghty6347
    @shawngeraghty6347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone tell me the type of clamp he is using around 17:00? Thanks in advance.

    • @shawngeraghty6347
      @shawngeraghty6347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I will definitely use that nail tip for glueing up! Thanks Paul!

    • @harlowchandlerjr.6371
      @harlowchandlerjr.6371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Generically they are aluminum bar clamps--you can look them up that way and find many brands at many prices. But I would recommend that you find Paul Sellers' video on improving the clamps enormously by making a few simple modifications, Out of the box they're not the best clamp, but the modifications make them very good at an attractive price.

    • @shawngeraghty6347
      @shawngeraghty6347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harlowchandlerjr.6371, thanks for the info!

    • @wdbrnr63
      @wdbrnr63 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe in the video on clamp improvements he said they were from Harbor Freight.

    • @shawngeraghty6347
      @shawngeraghty6347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks@@wdbrnr63 , it helps to know the source.

  • @MrWaffle47
    @MrWaffle47 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually first for once?

  • @haidermalik3282
    @haidermalik3282 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That mask looks like alien mask 2:35

  • @Gwynbuck
    @Gwynbuck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anybody know what face mask Paul is using?

  • @bombusunicus8494
    @bombusunicus8494 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video can only be viewed at double speed. Unfortunately, TH-cam cannot triple.

  • @TheRedEleven
    @TheRedEleven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the time it took to watch these videos of Margaret Thatcher's grandfather making this workbench, three more countries have declared their independence from Great Britain.

    • @in2rock275
      @in2rock275 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just love spending my time watching someone drill holes and plane plywood.

  • @AbdulKarim-fs5iw
    @AbdulKarim-fs5iw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1/16" =15mm or 1.5 cm. 2:18
    Yes. It's annoying

    • @chrisis9030
      @chrisis9030 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to your calculations an inch would be 25.4 cm... which it isn't.

    • @paulsellers7953
      @paulsellers7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisis9030 We've stated everything correctly, Abdul. 1/16" Is near enough 1.5mm. No one mentioned 15mm or 1cm.

    • @paulsellers7953
      @paulsellers7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisis9030 It is 2.54 cm

  • @jesseonfire1562
    @jesseonfire1562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man is so slow I was a carpentry contractor he wouldn't last 5 minutes in the real world I can sharpen a saw 10 times faster than him

    • @Andy-in8ej
      @Andy-in8ej 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but he's a nice chap, you're a cock.

    • @jesseonfire1562
      @jesseonfire1562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andy-in8ej say that to my face l

    • @dcolorado7483
      @dcolorado7483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Andy-in8ej Your comment does not add value to the tone and purpose of this channel. David's right, a good commercial carpenter is fast and delivers; however, they are doing a different type of work.
      Now about speed and efficiency, I'm going to use my pin/brad nailer to move things along instead of screws. I'm going to use my Kreg rip-cut jig to get my strips.
      Hey David, find his video where here cranks out some nice dovetails by hand. That is impressive.

  • @TheRealJoeMama1
    @TheRealJoeMama1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your producer seems to have become so fond of that droning repetitive music that they insert it anytime there is more than 1.5 seconds that you aren't speaking and sometimes neglect to turn it off when you begin speaking again. I'd much rather hear what you have to say, I don't learn anything from the music.

  • @bushticulous
    @bushticulous 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're British, no?
    Metric please. The conversions should be for our transatlantic cousins., Not us.

    • @tcarney57
      @tcarney57 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being British, you should know plenty of you still prefer to work in the imperial system, at least at home where they can do as they please. Frankly, it doesn't make a bit of difference either way. It's just another rallying point for misplaced bone-head nationalism. I'm an American, so I know it when I see it.

    • @bushticulous
      @bushticulous 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @White Rabbit Ok. So the fella before me calls me a bone head. You call me a hobbyist.
      Both assumptions based on nothing.
      My work involves steel, joinery and fabric and not once have I had to resort to imperial measurements in all the years I've been there.
      I resorted to experience for the comment I made. You two resorted to name calling.
      Why?

  • @nickrandol9133
    @nickrandol9133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid, Paul, but you have got to lose that goofy helmet.

    • @rodneyevans4530
      @rodneyevans4530 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      back in 1974 I worked a furniture factory, used to cough up particule board all the time made for some bad times