Honda Cfr250L Crf300L doesn't Downshift How to FIX Stuck in High GEAR part # to fix 24610-KYJ-900
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I use my crf 300 for hard enduro and dropped it like 100+ times and it’s still fine.
It just rolled off to a valley while I parked it on a trail 2 days ago. I went forward and when I came back I saw it in the valley. Managed to get it back and no major damage.
Not sure if they changed the design of the motor in the 300
What year is yours?
Mines a 22
Also do you have some kind of a crash cage?
Just a week ago, I had this same problem happen on my '22 300L Rally: it was a no speed drop onto rock and gravel. It became stuck in 1st, and we were way bak in the woods. Luckily, after many tries, we were able to hand pull the slightly bent aftermarket lever enough, to get into 3rd. Once back on tarmac, we managed to jimmy it up into 5th. Stuck in that gear, I managed to ride it home. Fortunately, the shift spindle isn't an expensive part, and the replacement procedure is fairly straightforward, so no biggie. The worrying aspect, though, is how easily this happened.
It sounds like the majority of these occurrences have happened with aftermarket cast aluminum levers hat are much stronger, so they'll transfer any blunt force into the spindle. The stock pedal is softer steel, which will bend or break. I'll be switching back to the stock steel lever, and will now keep a spare one in with the tools.
Hey buddy I'm replying to this because literally two days ago I had to fix my shifter spindle due to a relatively low speed crash I slid about 20 ft in the rain on my way to work it wasn't anything serious but it was the stock lever and just like you had I was stuck in first.
This is really just a crappy design on the part of Honda stock or not stock so do not blame your aftermarket lever
Yep same here! Happened to me the same aftermarket shift lever busted my spindle
That's one reason why the soft metal shift levers from Honda are best to use. The aluminum shift lever stresses the spindle. Many others have bent the spindle, etc., due to the stiffer aftermarket levers. Just my opinion of course. And that brake lever is aftermarket as well, so not really Honda's issue. The soft brake and shift levers that are stock don't break, they just bend and are easy to bend back again on the trail.
Very true .. i completely agree with this statement
I had this happen to me on the second drop of the bike with the original honda lever, not sure if it matters that much with the forces involved.
true...
I have the stock levers and foot controls and I am unable to change down gears so I believe it is a Honda issue. The spindle does not seem up to the task of trail riding. I will have to look at fabricating some sort of lever guard or we cannot use our bikes for their intended purpose. I am disappointed.
I completely disagree because I am fully stocked and the same thing happened to me I had to spend 6 hours figuring out watching TH-cam videos how to replace my lever luckily I was able to get it done but this is not the reason I bought a Honda.
Hopefully soon Yamaha will come out with a dual sport so I can switch because I'm frankly disappointed
Great video. I was 15 klicks into the bush when I couldn't shift...
Tomorrow morning I will fix
I love these videos, please keep them coming! It's so hard to find actual real world data for anything even slightly new these days, I'm not interested in this particular bike but if I was videos like this would help me out tremendously - it's not even comparable to when reviewers use it for a week or two and then draw conclusions.
Good luck with the repairs, and props for getting home in 6th on a 250 - at the very least it was a proper stress-test on your clutch, if it can survive this I would trust it lol.
It was insanely stressful , hill climbs in 6th was crazy and when i got to town in traffic was hell
I’ve dropped and slid my 250l across concrete and dirt and on mud trails I’ve never had that issue I’ve just wrenched on the 250l shifter back in place and kept going. I do really appreciate you videos I’ve been watch you for a long time since almost the beginning
Man i wish I had that luck . I'm getting a new part , hopefully the guy that had the bike before me did something to mess it up .. and I'll have a wonderful experience e after
@@vegasromaniac Thanks for the video. I broke the same part yesterday in a similar way, I just laid down the bike at a slow speed on the trail... the part broke on the other side (the shifter broke right off the end of the metal part you changed) so I will need to make the same swap. Your video should be useful and although I'm new to wrenching my bike I think I will try this myself instead of paying a dealer for the fix. THANKS! :)
Thanks for your video.
Same feeling.
Lost trust.
Had easy slider in high grass.
After re-bending same issue as yours. Drove home luckily I just was out of forest.
Want to do long trips in future, but this gives me a bad feeling.
However, thanks for your video, now I can fix it due to you! ❤
Great 👍 still a great bike , don't crash it , will ride forever
Own Husky/KTM. Don’t have these problems. Still love Honda and for some reason like your videos. So here I am.
Yeah i think I'm crossing in to this dirtbike frame with street motor , and has street weaknesses , engineered not to be dropped . Fatal flaw of this dual sport
I have the crf300 Rally, I bought a set of lower crash bars. The crash bars minimize the possibility of shifter or break leaver damage.
Great video! Tight editing.
Great Fix!! Still riding too. Awesome
Yeah .. but now I shift only with Snickers due to the fact that the bike boots are too brutal
got 65.000km now on my 2018 250L still stock shifter going strong maybe its just bad luck nice video!
That's great man .. yeah I've ordered a new shifter . See how it goes
Epic Scenery. Romania Land is Heaven on Earth.
It's not bad .. but i would not say heaven, some roads in California in March as are epic .. but just in March before the fires
Should have stayed with your Yamaha. Didn't know you bought a new bike. So happy to see you back.
Yamaha it's not an option here in Europe .. unfortunately
Tough break on that shifter shaft but you have skills you will fix it good to know about that part if it don’t shift
Yeah i put orders in 3 places , wherever gets here first
Hey! Thanks for the video, I just had this happen to me during a tour in Morocco and it pretty much ended my holiday. Did you have any more issues after replacing the part? And did you make any modifications to prevent this from happening again?
Same thing happened to me bad design on the 300
There seems to be some different bikes with selector issues. Its frustrating. The most recent one I've dealt with was on a klx250 where the selector is on the shifter side. It was due to a poorly designed selector were the dowels shear off randomly. It is replaced with a enforced replacement part and it works fine now. I hope it doesn't give you any more trouble.
Yeah , i hope so too, i lost trust with this bike ... Really annoying
@@vegasromaniac I think it's a good ride bike that looks like it can do off road but really can't handle it much
Out of all my years of dirt biking, only once did something like that happen. It happened on my 1977 Suzuki RM 125. Somehow the shift fork got bent. Luckily, my parents help me pay for it - the cases had to be split.
Yeah riding home I was already imagining the horror of splitting the case with no tools .. lucky it was easy to fix
Hi great video, this just happened to my wife on hers yesterday, I was wondering how did your fix workout, were you able to use it that way till you got the new part. We have an easy ride planned next week and am thinking I will do the same till the new parts get here. Let me know if you can. Thanks
And they say KTM's are unreliable. Nice job on the rear brake lever fix, now it should bend instead of breaking.
Yeah it broke because it got dropped , this bike doesn't like to get dropped , not designed for it
Very educational for me, thank you, but don't be so harsh on it, I'm not the first to say that you don't know its full history because it was used when you got it... but still, I know where you are coming from, it should be more droppable, at least you have the knowledge to fix it and the kindness to pass that on to us. Thank you
It's the design that makes it troublesome ...
I wonder if this can be prevented by adding a metal ring spacer on the shifter shaft under the shifting lever. That would prevent the shaft from pushing inwards on falls.
I don't know ,my strategy is not to drop it
broke my shifter shaft in the mountains on a single track, decided then to convert my 250 to a supermoto and i bought an xr400 for trails and track riding🫡
Did you have a wear of spindle in place of contact with a needle bearing?
Muchas gracias!!! Me sirvió mucho el vídeo
Great video the scenery is amazing!!! You didn't mention how many times you dropped the blue bike and if I had to guess they didn't break with every drop..
I lost count and never broke ...
@@vegasromaniac Just what I thought.... Thanks!
Your right about a dual sport must survive many drops to both sides and still be rideable to be considered reliable. On the other hand you see pure dirt bike riders brake almost everything that can be broken on a bike and they don't call the bike unreliable. It is just unfortunate and they load the bike up in the truck and drive home. You can not do that with a dual sport bike in most cases because you did not go riding in a truck. This is specifically a grey bike issue. This is why manufacturers should not just grab off the shelf street bike parts and shove them into a dirt bike frame.
Very true .. the motor was designed for the road. .
In crf 250L I installed a Terrex crash bar at least when it falls down either left or right side the delicate parts of the engine will not take the direct impact.
Hi, do I need to prick the motor? Or is it enough to remove the cover and the shaft is pulled out ?
I had this happen up on a CO mountain pass. Put the bike down on the left side when it washed out the front tire on wet rocks. Had to limp it back from 12000 ft. Not fun. Bought a KTM EXC 350 the next day.
😜 KTM it's a fast bike but not known for its reliability . But this Honda does sucks as far as design
I’m doing this as I type this and am wondering how to take this I’m assuming clutch bolt out because I can’t take the case off without it
You know if that would be covered under warranty if you had bought it brand new from a dealer cuz I just had this problem arise on my crf 250L
Not covered .. nothing it's covered, really walk in a dealer and you will realize that fast , warranties are scams .. to get you buy the bike, but you are always on your own ...
@@vegasromaniac It really depends. I am currently going through my second round with my local Honda dealer to solve the gremlin in my 2023 CRF300l Rally. Due to the way too short side stand my bike dumped itself at the end of my first ride. My driveway is sloped, gravel and was covered in snow. I put the stand down on compacted snow, got off to open the garage only to turn around after 5 steps to the bike falling over. Other than twisting the left side controls (the housing with the mirror, clutch lever, turn signal ect). I twisted them back in place and went inside. Now my bike randomly cuts off with the stand down, it's been a pain, but mechanically the bike runs. I can ride it. No physical damage can be seen. No scratches, bent parts, nothing. So Honda says it's a bad side stand switch and orders the dealer to replace. The switch isn't broken in half or showing damage so warranty covers the replacement. I lost my bike for 2 weeks while they waited for a part but hey free is good. Since then it has continued to happen randomly. Sometimes during warm up it just shuts off after 2-3 minutes. It also loses gear position on the screen. It'll show say 4th gear, then suddenly it'll show lines, then 4th, then lines. Like it doesn't know what gear it is in. Also it will show neutral, but then when you put the stand down (with the new side stand switch) it shuts off. The neutral green N light will flicker instead of being solid when this is going to happen. It is either a gear position switch issue or a shift shaft issue in my mind. They way Honda explained it to me is this. If there is obvious damage from a crash (that is what they call a drop) then warranty will not cover the cost. But if there isn't then they will. Basically a "we didn't ship it from the factory broken" stance. It is questionable if it will fall on me if the shaft is bent.
how easy was it to replace?
That sucks man. I dropped my CRF250L so many times and I had no issues with it. Sold the bike with 25000km on it
It is what it is ...parts are coming I know how to fix it I hope it all goes well from there
How did you get the actual gear spindle out? Im having trouble getting the damaged one out
Push it down to clear the basket and push it out from the other side
@@vegasromaniac i ended up just taking the clutch assembly out
I wonder if Honda use the same shifter design in the CRF X, and the new RL
I don't think so ...difrent motor design this is a street motor
@@vegasromaniac It's true, It couldn't be compared with your Yamaha back at USA. Always a pleasure to see your Videos Vegas, have a good day.
I cant get the case off my 300 l rally to change the part
Never had an issue. I have had multiple big drops
Can't wait to get my new part out it in and see what happens on the next drop
@vegasromaniac what part did you get? Is it working for you?
All of my crashes on my CRF250 Rally have been on mud ,and I haven't had this issue.
Maybe its bent a bit you just can't tell ...
В Таиланде этот вал стоит 40 долларов. Заказал. Жду.
Well sorry but I gotta prove ya wrong. I rode 15 miles thru trails in coal country PA. And I was stuck in 5th
Did You had fun ?
@@vegasromaniaclol it’s alway fun on red two wheels lol even if it’s taking every ounce of strength and destroying my clutch to get it home lol
I'm putting an engine guard on . I busted mine but Jerry rigged and got home
I just bought my 250l and dropped it the first day and now can’t ride :/
It's not a bike to drop , defiantly not made with drooping in thought
Another DRZ400?
Right about now I'm thinking about it .. too bad they don't make an efi
@@vegasromaniac The Honda was built to a price and mainly marketed for entry level dual sport riders. You are doing more then this bike was designed for. In regards to the DRZ400E, It was designed 20 years ago and is heavy duty by design. Once jetted and tuned properly, the carb really is no issue and in fact when my friends ride mine think that it is EFI. I have watched plenty of 300L videos and still think that the DRZ is a better all round bike. Like you, I can buy what ever bike I want but every time I ride the DRZ, I am surprised how good this bike rides, handles and has given no problems so far for 20,000km and I ride it hard.
@@vegasromaniac smart carb or electron would be good in the mountains. No jetting adjustments even though they are designed for 2strokes.
Dang Hondas. This wouldn't never ever happen with a Chinese bike. 😆
Oh that's true .. but this one is thailandeze so .. that's close enough
You purchased the bike used so who knows maybe previous owner didnt use the clutch to downshift much
Very true ...
Hey bro I have a spring that I have no clue where it goes.
Pull up parts schematics for the bike off a part store match the spring to it ..
Should have kept the FX
Tell me about it
Pig metal parts, obviously that is a price point bike, cheap as possible.
Very true
Hondas aren't what they used to be. This is just one example.
Funny how the rider drops the bike and it's the bike that is deemed unreliable. No bike was designed to be dropped. This is why the aftermarket sells skid plates, frame sliders, engine gaurds and crash bars........ for irresponsible riders.
Yamaha design on the shifter side to drop, ktm even rised the right side case for trh clutch for that reason InDesign so the brake lever doesn't go in the case so you loose the oil ..
@@vegasromaniac how much is the cheapest dualsport KTM, 12,000 USD! You can buy a ton of aftermarket parts for the crf300l before you spend 12,000. Yamaha, are speaking of the tenere or xt250? The xt250 is even more of a budget bike but it costs the same as a crf300l. Again, the crf300l is a budget dual sport, no frills, it doesn't even have fully adjustable suspension. If you want a bike that will endure enduro type abuse then your gonna spend way more than a crf300l is worth. At the end of the day what is more important to you, affordable budget bike or great engineering and a proven enduro machine.
That sucks you have this issue that will spoil the. rest of your time there.
Yep .. it sucks
Bad luck you could fall off your bike and break parts of your body. Be thankful it's not you!
Well that's true but the point is that i got spoiled with a bulletproof Yamaha