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- A suspect who may have betrayed Anne Frank and her family to the Nazis has been identified in a new investigation.
The Jewish diarist died in a Nazi concentration camp in 1945, aged 15, after two years in hiding.
A team of historians and other experts said Arnold van den Bergh, a Jewish figure in Amsterdam, probably "gave up" the Franks to save his own family.
Anne Frank’s diary, published after her death, is the most famous first-hand account of Jewish life during the war.
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I think the saddest part about Anne Frank is that she was just months away from surviving. That always hit me the hardest, knowing that she got so close, yet so far.
If she had made it she wouldn't be the Annie Frank we know
Her death made her special
Nazi 4th Reich will try to wipe out every Jew on the planet. They want to wipe out the lineage of Messiah.
There more to happen. Get ready.
That has always gotten to me too. Especially considering her beloved father would have found her.
I just don’t think she could go on fighting after losing her sister. She knew her mother was dead and probably thought her father was dead. She died thinking she was all alone in the world. :(
@@lucascasey8869The world probably wouldn't have cared if not for her diary...
@@AjatiMimi after I wrote that comment I wondered about that, but it is simply not true. There are many other works and museums of the history of the holocaust. I do think it played a pivotal role in notifying the world but I don’t think nobody would have cared
Let’s not forget the real villain here is the Nazis. Their actions are the reason terrible, terrible things like this happened.
@Ronald Jones not even comparible considering palestinians launch missiles at israel
@@nate5859 In self defense. Would you blame the Jews for launching missiles at the Nazis?
The centre Right should of done more to pushback against Communism. It failed and people moved Right.
That is exactly what I was saying. Not the poor guy who had to chose whether his family lives or dies.
The real villians are the bankers that set these things in motion.
My grandfather's best friend survived the atrocities of the concentration camps. He used to say "The worst of us survived the camps. The best of us died almost immediately by refusing to put their own survival before others". He wouldn't have been surprised at all by the Frank family being betrayed by one of their own because he witnessed what people were willing to do to survive
Not really a surprise if you look at other people put in harsh prison like conditions like Andersonville where some soldiers killed their own just to survive.
very true statement
Has he said what happened in the camps?
That cut deep
Wow, that's amazingly honest. Makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing
Anne would be 94 today if she had survived the war and lived a long life. My mother is 98 and still living and I know older people than that.
Give my kind regards to your mom..
She died of fever
@@user-ye6dk2fw6tno? Lmao
@@user-ye6dk2fw6ttyphus
@@user-ye6dk2fw6ttyphus got her
I think calling him a betrayer is misrepresenting the situation. I don't expect other people to sacrifice their family, wife and children for me. The fact that this man wrote a letter to her father shows he felt bad for her.
Oh pls he was totally a betrayer, doing something so horrible, apologing doesn't means he is justified for doing something so horrible
@@riyasingh2729 He was saving his own family man. What part of that you don't understand?
@@riyasingh2729 In the other case he would of betrayed his family, for which he was responsible and actually made a promise to protect. Every mother and father would put their child first, that's how nature works and should work
@@riyasingh2729 and if he chose Anne he is still a betrayer to his own family
@@riyasingh2729 did you even read the comment at all
Problem is not the one who betrayed Anne to save himself. The problem is the one who destroyed the person to the point he could be able to sacrifice Anne. I was born during the war in Rwanda. I saw with my eyes, when a parent abandoned their children to save themselves. I saw one who killed his close neighbors. Many betrayed their loved one. I know they loved them but broken.
i thought the problem was the fascists
@@rowanredwood9316 *"The problem is the one who destroyed the person to the point he could be able to sacrifice Anne"*
... which were the fascists in the case of Anne Frank. He just did not name them by a political orientation, but more broadly in terms of those who pressure people into doing awful things.
Sadly, the Rwanda genocide won't be the last! I guess we humans will never learn and won't change.
@@mayankdwivedi9719 heard of camp speicher?
I cant understend a parent Who leaves their children.
When I was a child, I thought the man who betrayed Anne Frank and the other 8 people in the Annex was someone completely beyond redemption, but after watching this, it completely changed my perspective. He was just doing what he had to do to survive. If he didn’t reveal the information about Anne Frank and her family, he and his own family probably would have been executed. So he was just doing what he had to do to survive. People would be betrayed no matter what he did.
HALF of that diary was written by oskar frank annes father. acknowledged by the anne frank foundation. all lies
Don't care. She had white privilege anyways.
Shit.
You're right....
Justification is just looking yourself in the mirror, right?.!
Why is this comment almost exactly like someones comment (3 comments) above yours
I can’t imagine the pain of having to betray the trust of another family like this to save your own. What a horrible cross to have to bear.
To think, that is going to happen again with Satan's final Empire of Europe (10 Nations) to come with Germany being the Head Nation of it.
Embargo system of Sunday will be placed upon the world and what HAPPENED TO ANNE FRANK is going to be global.
For those who do not follow Satan's counterfeit Sunday Sabbath to Gods True Sabbath of Fri. Sunset until Sat. sunset will not be able to buy nor sell on the Earth and will be turned in like ANNA FRANK was/hunted down and killed for choosing God over Satan or not following Satan either way.
The fact that this informant was Jewish himself and forced to betray Anne in order to save his own family’s lives… it’s honestly one of the most chilling and disturbing things I’ve ever heard.
No one care. This shit happen every day in the middle east.
@@amirudinadnan7024 doesn’t make this scenario any less horrific
@@amirudinadnan7024 Ok, 1. A lot of people care. To say "no one cares" is not only despicable, but also factually incorrect. 2. Your English is horrible.
@@amirudinadnan7024 the difference is the middle east does it to themselves. Why do you think we would care about people who marry kids and hurt women and who execute LGBT people and atheists?
@@salag13 these idiots are everywhere. Think we are going to do something about the mess they made for themselves 🤣 muslims saying "I don't care about the holocaust cos muslims suffer" is so common... except they suffer because of their own idiotic ideology.
Calling him a traitor in every other sentence is inconsiderate to say the least, we can't know the horrors these people lived through.
Exactly. It was either them or him
And his family
@@Presidentofthepresident I was going to say the same! It was a no-win situation - and if it was him, I would imagine he lived with the terrible guilt and shame for the rest of his life.
The part that bugs me is that the press straight up admits several times that they don't know if he did it, and that they cannot prove it even with very circumstantial evidence. But they still threw his name under the bus anyways. How is this newsworthy? They basically admit they have nothing useful to say, but give people a chance to go after this guys descendents and slander him while their at it.
@Josh
Agreed, plus in the grand scheme of things the most important question isn’t who turned in Anne Frank’s family but rather who started the sick, horrific war and hunted the Jewish in the first place. For this news video, we need to remember who the REAL enemy was.
*My soul aches for both families and making a decision that brings horrific consequences for an entire family with either choice must be agonizing...especially since both families contained children. The perhaps worst part is they were mere months away from freedom for both families, but did not know that at the time, obviously. The current situation just brings up this story once again, and 'they' can ban this story all they want, it's all over the internet and will always be known.*
they should portray anne frank as black in the movie about her life because they're making every other white historical figure black, why not start with jews too?
*BOLD*
HALF of that diary was written by oskar frank annes father. acknowledged by the anne frank foundation. all lies
@@suz4359 I DO read books. Why are you chastising me?
@@suz4359 what are you babbling about? What are you even talking about? I can't state an opinion for fear you might like it?
Why in the world would you:
1) Call a man a suspect for trying to save his family.
2) Admit you don’t actually know but still name someone?
It's based around theories and rough evidence. They can't be certain and unless the family of the person who betrayed them long ago comes out (which is still possible), we won't fully know. It wouldn't surprise me that this might likely be the case as back then rating someone else to save your own isn't exactly a foolish decision. It was a tough choice to make and certainly begs to question morals. I do agree though that putting out the family to what is considered just a theory is a bit too much. Even then I don't blame the family's ancestor for what had to be done or in their minds. War times were just horrible.
@@UrSammich I agree. That’s why I have an issue issue with the video.
It's kind of disgusting to out someone's identity just based on suspicion and calling them a traitor every other sentence, ngl.
People want to know. It is a big story.
What do you think of Anne frank?
Btw, im mia!
Also the fact that he was tortured and they threatned to kill his wife and kids. Who wouldn't have done the same?
@@jean6872 someone *wrote* a big story and is trying to peddle his crummy books. There's no new information, there are no modern techniques, and the BBC is just helping the writer advertise.
@@jean6872 doesn't justify accusing someone without proofs.
Anyone who thinks if they were in the shoes of the other, would not have betrayed Anne, knows little about the human condition. It is a tragedy on all fronts.
Yes, shamefully, I admit, if it were my life and the life of my family, I probably would have given them up too. It would take a complete Saint to sacrifice yourself AND your WHOLE family for another. The whole thing is just tragic beyond words. Also, I believe Anne only missed being saved by a couple weeks.
It's the same thing as saying "If I was a German in Nazi Germany, I would've fought against the Nazi Party." When in reality, most people alive today, would've been touting the Swastika, and spitting on jews. It's distrubing really, and even more disturbing when you realize it could easily happen again if circumstances are right.
I still like to think I wouldn’t, but I accept that I likely might.
@@camd4648 It sort of is already. Don’t forget what the CCP is doing to Muslims.
@@brianfeuerman1732 Unfortunately, we tend to turn a blind eye to things outside of our own sphere. The CCP has been guilty of committing atrocities against all walks of life and people, and do to this day.
I absolutely agree.
If you read "Nothing to Envy" stories of North Korean survivors you come to realize that the nicest people died first in the North Korean famine. Those that shared food, shared resources would die. Those that were cutthroat and stole survived. Similar stories came out of the holocaust, the famine in China. I tell my wife she would be the first to go in such a crisis because of her kind heart. Survival of the fittest in these instances means that the ultimate survivors go on to breed and the result is a group of people whose personality changed versus a group that wasn't exposed to such horror. Over decades North Koreans vs South Koreans, although originally genetically the same, may have very different genetic personalities.
Same thing in war. The brave ones die first, the cowards live.
Nothing to Envy is an amazing book:) I remember one of the stories where a teacher watches a young girl starve to death in her classroom 😢 but she (the teacher) never gives the girl her own food.
At the end of the day, the teacher’s tiny bit of food would never be enough to feed all the hungry children that surrounded them 😔
If anyone is interested, another profound book on the topic (and specific to the Jewish Holocaust) is The Drowned and the Saved by Primo Levi. I cannot recommend Levi’s writing enough, and I’m a big enough person to admit that like your wife 😉 I wouldn’t have survived in that kind of situation.
Genetic personalities? I'd have just left it at personalities or culture tbh, it still serves your point. Although we won't definitively know the impact of nature vs nurture on personality for years to come, nurture has a solidly proven correlation to future outcomes. However some of the bedrock claims of evolutionary psychology have come to be heavily questioned, if not totally discredited by consensus due to flawed methodologies, bad assumptions, and issues with reproducibility.
@@JungleLibrary Ah I remember evolutionary psychology, it all sounded so good but the methodology consisted of smoking a fatty and disguising your stoner discussions as scientific publications.
Selective breeding cannot defeat your dna. We contain the genes of ancestors from 50,000 years ago. The fact that your grandad had no sandwiches and mine did, does not rubber stamp our types.
Such a sad story. Seeing how happy she was in those pictures of hers is very harrowing when realizing how she descended from those feelings of what she once was
I clicked thinking it was a fully sinister evil person who gave them up, and now finding it was not at all what I thought makes me generally really sad. In glad to see others in the comments who along with me aren't angry at person who gave them up as it was either them or his family. I don't know what I would have done in that situation and I'm lucky I don't have to find out.
Complete strangers who I don’t know or my family
Wow that is a tough one for sure
🤣
It's still not certain that this is really what happened. But very very sad either way
.......yet......
The real evil was the racism and populism of the Nazis, thier rise and history, built on systemic racist propaganda and bullying opposition should be taught forever.
This man was a victim of his circumstances, not a betrayer or traitor. Most people will turn on you based on public opinion or fame. Unfortunately this was a matter of life and death and a real breakdown in humanity. People shouldn't have been put in that type of predicament anyways, if we're discussing choices and morals. The entire Holocaust was sickening. From the medical experiments with Mengele to the selling of the hair of Jews as fabric.
Everyone makes a trade once in their life
@Jeremy Purdue Um, no. The diary wasn't written with a ballpoint pen. That's just a worn-out denialist lie a lot of ignorant morons are eager to swallow. The “ballpoint myth” is based on the simple fact that, around 1960, two annotation sheets with ballpoint writing were inserted between the original pages. These texts were written by a graphological researcher, and are not included in any edition of the diary. All the diary entries are written in various types of ink and (coloured) pencil, not in ballpoint. The document analysis by the Netherlands Forensic Institute showed that the main part of the diary and the loose sheets were written in grey-blue fountain pen ink.
Better luck with your next lie, goofy. 😺
@Jeremy Purdue
whats the point of this
In 1980, because of a lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau, the Bundes Kriminal Amt [BKA], forensically examined the original “diary” manuscript. Their analysis determined that “significant” portions of the work were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, portions of the work were added well after the war (Anne Frank died in March 1945).
The BKA also determined that none of the “diary” handwriting matched known examples of Anne’s handwriting. Earlier handwriting experts had determined that all of the writing in the “diary” was by the same hand. Therefore, the entire “diary” was a postwar fake.
The true author of the diary was Jewish novelist Meyer Levin, who demanded and was awarded $50,000 in payment for his work in a court action against Anne’s father, Otto Frank.
Just like we see with vaccine mandates
We always get mad at those who betray but we never wonder if we ourselves are capable of such a thing. Do we know how strong we are until we are placed in such a situation?
“What I could be if only there were no other people in the world.” Heart breaking.
Very dangerous game to play, "suspected" doesn't mean guilty, and no way of possibly knowing if he was the one to rat them out.
If he is innocent then you've destroyed the reputation of an entire family based on no solid proof
Then pray he isn’t innocent.
He was in the Nazi Jewish council, how was that innocent. It basically a organization that planning deporting Jew to camp or administrative ghetto.
Was she vaxed?
@@ronmartin1375 vaxed with what
@@ishaagni7199 Alt-left woke SJWS have made it their mission to dox, arrest & send to camps the un-vaxed. It’s disgusting.
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One free man defending his home is worth more than ten hired antifa.
First thing taliban/antifa (anti-freedom) does is force women to wear masks, force people to stay inside, ban guns, burn US flags, chant death to America.
Alt-left were the ones building the camps and lighting the gas. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro. Lots of sad idols in leftist history. Now the taliban. Ideology is not an alt-left strong point.
Good thing Americans had the morality, duty and strength to stop such wickedness.
Imagine hiding with your entire family from murderers, the case of Anne Frank has always disturbed me so much, rest in heaven little one,
Nobody gets away with anything because later in life you'll have to pay for your transgressions and the things you do against others so hopefully the person who betrayed this young girl will have to deal with being betrayed themselves
Those was disturbing times
No one care. This shit happen every day in the middle east.
a cancer is a cancer even at 13
They weren't murderers they were just following orders. You would've done it too
People want to believe that they would do "the right thing" but if I had to choose between my child and anyone else on Earth, it would always be my child.
It is easy to condemn Mr. Vandenburg but until you have walked a mile in his shoes try and avoid passing judgement. If it came down to protecting your family over people you don't know most people would do exactly the same thing. I am not saying he was right, it was a despicable act but none of us will know what pressures he was under that caused him to make such a choice.
IF YOU BETRAY HUMANITY THEN EXPECT HUMANITY TO CONDEMN YOU. Save your skin with the Nazi then suffer their fate.
@@lauriewise6271 huh?
@@lauriewise6271 It is easy to SAY don't betray someone to save your skin. It is something entirely different to actually do it and sacrifice the lives of your family and yourself in the process. If I was in that situation and my families very survival depended on me keeping them safe I would probably use any tool at my disposal to do so. I think most people would do the same. So do not judge him to harshly.
If anything, we should commend him. He saved his family's life, he still saved lives. He didn't directly kill the Frank family, he's a hero to the people he saved
I personally don't think it is right that his name has been linked to this act as he's not around to defend himself and its all based on circumstantial evidence. No doubt someone is making money out of this just like people do selling books naming who jack the ripper was based on flimsy ideas.
I was nine when I read Anne’s diary and she always seemed so grown up but watching this it’s just hitting me how young she actually is. I’m now older than Anne ever got to be.
Personally I don’t think kids should be reading that stuff until they’re older, the boy In the striped pajamas was a traumatic film to watch
@@shoazdon7000 I remember watching that and the teachers before putting it on saying it's not accurate one bit 😂
@@shoazdon7000 I personally read her diary and the boy in the striped pajamas when I was very young and I kinda agree
I think it was good for me at a young age the shock of learning of those events allowed me to see the world for what it can be a cruel evil place full of people who will blindly follow the masses or turn a blind eye to things they don't want to see. when its taught at a young age it gets deeply engrained in our minds and because of that it would be a hopeful deterrent for history to repeat itself. I don't know maybe I was the exception and not the rule, after I learned of the holocaust I did in depth research on what happened in those camps as well as what the Imperial Japanese did which in some cases was worse than what the Nazis were doing, check out Unit 731 or their "comfort women/girls" which were sex slaves given to the Japanese service men from raids of neighboring countries. They would go to poor areas and kill the men and boys while capturing the women it rarely gets talked about ask anyone about the atrocities of WWII and you'll hear about the horrible things the Nazi's did and all most will bring up about the Japanese is pearl harbor. I don't know why it's so rarely brought up especially in the education system I had to find that out on my own something that terrible should be talked about.
@@bug3518 yea that's a tru. I also saw close to the same things and it's important to know the past even if it's horrible to prevent it
She died in Bergen Belsen. She died from typhus. And she was betrayed for 7,50 guilders. That's about 3 euro's. And the people who lived in what is now called the Anne Frank house were on the last transport that went out of the Netherlands. They got so close it is heartbreaking.
The fact that she is remembered is wonderful!
As a kid, I always imagined the person who ratted out Anne’s family to be someone vile, sinister or unforgivable to no redemption, however, it’s seems as if they were just another product of their time of someone who was unfortunately put in the same situation as thousands of other living during the Holocaust. I can’t even fathom having to pick over the safety of my own family in comparison to another, but my heart will always go out to both families & any others who were affected by this terrible time in human history.
Hannah Arendt talks exactly about this. It's called 'the banality of evil'- how ordinary people can perform the most evil acts simply because of the extremist situations around them.
@@shadybutnotslim It's not always that circumstances make good people act badly. Sometimes people's real selfishness is revealed during hard times. Anyone can be nice when things are going well.
She wrote a book so she is more important than the person
-bbc
@@anacom4238 nope. it’s only the opposite. circumstances bring out potential. never the other way around
Dang you were close minded 😂 should’ve been common sense.. especially for the time period, everyone had to save themselves first. Can’t blame anyone for choosing to live. Glad you wised up!
Calling someone a traitor based off of circumstantial evidence is honestly disrespectful in my opinion,because imagine they’re not guilty and we all just accept it. I feel awful for his family due to that issue, like imagine no matter how hard you say my relative didn’t do this no one would listen to you.
as much as I would like to know who did it because I’m always curious about these things I’d like to find it out not at cost of pointing fingers and saying it was a he said she said type scenario!
Edit: wow this absolutely blew the HECK up! Thank you all for that and also I have a lot of comments under this one and I just want remind everyone I’m open to discussing this but keep it respectful and on the point.
I’ve seen many comments de-rail the subject entirely. I understand this topic has a very thin rope to walk across and sometimes people fall by mistake but please just keep it respectful. I wanted to say something about it,thank you :)
(I also fixed a few things in the original comments because I wrote it late at night and what i say then can sometimes be hard to understand)
True, and this discretion should be pinned or put in the title of the video. Better to free thousand guilty than to accuse someone honest. Solid proof is needed to come to such conclusion.
Unfortunately this is the age we live in. Due process doesn't exist, you are guilty until proven innocent and the only court that matters is the court of public opinion. It's sad honestly.
@@AbhishekKumar-xx7li yeah I agree this stuff is a very big claim and it makes me irritated saying that this one person did it based off of like one thing!
@@illivanilli364 yeah and then if people just dig into the sand and plug their ears it can be even harder to convince someone
And honestly... Who here would let themselves and their own family die if they had the choice between them or another family. It's a cruel cruel world sometimes and I'm not about to look down on someone on a decision we would have most likely taken ourselves. Who killed the Frank family ? The Nazis.
We are so obsessed with solving mysteries from history and have no concern about the atrocities happening in todays world
We will be sympathize in the future
what atrocities do we not care about today ?
So the heading says suspect identified when in actuality the suspect hasn't been identified. Your so called suspect is relying on a note sent by an unknown person after the war. Thank you for yet another click bait video with no real answers.
The question everyone needs to ask themselves; would you betray someone to save your family?
Easy yes
Thats a no brainer. Unless you want to kill your family.
But there is no right answer.
Nope. I would save both. I can never take betrayal.
@@An_ony_mous this was not a video game but real life and he couldnt save both. And neither could you in same situation you are not a god
@@cloakedsniper5016 because youre a coward “cloaked sniper” i thought you were a sniper?
Okay IF this was actually true and he gave up the Frank family to protect his own. It’s the logical choice here. But also I think he lived with that guilt and suffered with it all the way to his grave. Very tragic all round.
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
In 1980, because of a lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau, the Bundes Kriminal Amt [BKA], forensically examined the original “diary” manuscript. Their analysis determined that “significant” portions of the work were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, portions of the work were added well after the war (Anne Frank died in March 1945).
The BKA also determined that none of the “diary” handwriting matched known examples of Anne’s handwriting. Earlier handwriting experts had determined that all of the writing in the “diary” was by the same hand. Therefore, the entire “diary” was a postwar fake.
The true author of the diary was Jewish novelist Meyer Levin, who demanded and was awarded $50,000 in payment for his work in a court action against Anne’s father, Otto Frank.
You can look up these court cases...very old and well documented. It is astonishing how they are recycling the lies that were already proven to be lies.
Oh god it is not logical. It is still evil. Even if it is true everyone place their family above others. It is still a evil thing to do.
Sure we can feel bad for the guy's situation. But calling it logical means half of you all is willing to do the same thing as him when the chips is down.
But if you have any sense of morality and humanity, you will feel terrible about it. So it is not logical either way.
It is insane and tragic either way. I will rather die than be reminded i participate in child murder , i want to sleep well at night.
What kind of horrific life is that.
@@lukelim5094 yeah but remember it’s also not just your life at stake. Your whole bloodline as well are in trouble along with the Frank family. So I absolutely understand his decision.
So you're supporting cowardice and lack of moral values? If he was given such choices he should have fought head on aggressively. Not just give up. Who gives up like that.
What happened during this time is something that should truly never be forgotten. How easy it is to blind people in hatred, how that hatred turns people into monsters, and how those monsters damage the world in ways that are still being felt about eighty or more years later.
Do not be so easily swayed by hate. Do not follow those who try to unite in hate.
They betrayed all who were hidden, not just Anne.
I read her diary and was heartbreaking
It is horrible how war changes lives and does not respect ages.
She was a young girl like many many others who suffer war even to this very day.
It always saddens and confuses me when I see pictures of the trains being loaded with people, and small children being passed onto the rail carts.
How did those soldiers rationalize the monstrous act they were doing.
Her diary is a folk story, its not accurate or real
@@kemo2547 I believe it was proven a couple of years back that the father wrote at least 1/2 of it.
@@sticky59 yeah he definitely didnt smuggle a diary up his keister unless og mudbone is a time traveler
Exept she didn't write it,
Honestly, press should be ashamed to state something like that with a name to it, without proof. The note could have been written from anybody, and is not proof. Nobody knows what happened, specially after such a long time.
The press don't have an ounce of humanity
What did you expect from the left?
What do you think the word ‘suspect’ means. There literally is proof, but you cannot put a dead person on trial to get an actual verdict.
@BAT THINK The De' ez united militia is very dangerous too actually, much more dangerous.
Clickbait. No one have been identified with certainty.
I always imagined in my head that the person who betrayed them was evil and did it for evil intentions. Somehow believing that was better than this, because it wasn’t some evil individual. This was just a man trying to protect his own family from facing a similar fate. This makes it worse in my mind
why is he the villain??? isnt the villain hitler? and the nazi soldiers who did this to anne frank? who threatened the dude's family?? he's just as much the victim of all this as anne was. he didn't want to hurt anyone they literally threatened his family. he's not the one at fault for it.
So if a Nazi told you to shoot your family, you'd do it? Yikes.
@@wastedproductions45 and somehow you completely missed the point, I’m honestly not surprised anymore.
@@wastedproductions45 This is literally a choice between your family and someone you are acquainted to... why would you save someone that you don't know as well as your family? Would you keep your mouth shut to see them shoot your loved ones?
No, you wouldn't, so criticizing a man that is forced into choosing family life or someone random person you know is just dumb and childish
@@lunadead So you would shoot your kid if it meant you get to live, good to know.
@@thatoneguy4573 So Anne deserved to die?
Due to how little information they've released, it makes me wish they hadn't given a name. The man may be dead, but he has descendants. If it was my grandfather, I would want someone to be sure before they call the news stations. If it was him, then it was him. But the way this whole thing was presented didn't do this 'breakthrough' justice.
This. Well said. This is my biggest issue with this. The evidence is circumstantial at best.
@@GroudFrank The top former FBI employee who’s been on this since 2016 has said the same, so it’s not like he’s saying there’s no doubt. He knows a lot of this is circumstantial, believes he has solid evidence, but is aware that solving this to find “who” without any trace of doubt is very unlikely at this point, if not impossible.
Typical woke SJW cancel culture.
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One free man defending his home is worth more than ten hired antifa.
First thing taliban/antifa (anti-freedom) does is force women to wear masks, force people to stay inside, ban guns, burn US flags, chant death to America.
Alt-left were the ones building the camps and lighting the gas. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Castro. Lots of sad idols in leftist history. Now the taliban. Ideology is not an alt-left strong point.
It’s honestly despicable that they are even phrasing it how they are in the title. Let’s condemn the ones who deserve it, not this other victim.
Welcome to modern media people. Where they just proclaim something with zero research and very little evidence.
From all 8 people that hid in the annex, only Otto Frank survived. Anne was only weeks away from freedom. This story always breaks my heart. RIP.
Who give a fuck
5.1 million people
It's sad that her fate is repeated in one way or the other in numerous parts of the world and worse is horrifying
agreed just look at the anti Semitic hate that still comes out of the muslim countries every day.
@@jackvenables4981 Or the muslim concentration camps in china.
It makes no sense playing victim. Study history from around the world, you’ll know it’s clear these things are very common. The concent du ration camps seem to only happen when there’s large amounts of the unwanted minority.
Example, look what happened to the Afro Korean kids in South Korea after the Korean War. The government pressured people to abort or hand over their “mixed” babies to international adoption groups in an effort to “eliminate” them. If that was no option and mixed were not in a manageable number, you can guess what would’ve come next. Probably cleansing.
Somalia, Rwanda, Japan, Turkey, Germany this trend happens all so often. The only ones you’ll hear about are the ones which the victim group became was so significant in number (like the aforementioned and today China) the government can’t work silently to eliminate them.
@@pepehimovic3135 blm will always play the victim though & most likely say that Anne is racist.
@@Junomaster2006 bruh what
Everyone who says they wouldn't do the same thing never has any idea of what they would do in those situations.
My father was there for 2 months after D-Day, He saw the concentration camps and the smell of death was still around, he had nightmares of the place for the rest of his life.
how old r u now
@@yxsh1098 62
I'm sorry but I don't think I can really condemn this man. It was horrible but it was also pure desperation to keep his own family safe. The real monsters were the ones who forced him to choose his family or the Franks.
"You know what's the worst thing about betrayal? It could never be done by an enemy!"
This only makes the whole ordeal more heartbreaking. Because if (as we'll never know for sure) this account is true, this is a story of another cornered family and a man having to betray those who trusted him in order to save himself and his loved ones.
No I’m better than you
I am sans undertale
I am your mom
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
"It's the story of a man who was cornered". Exactly. So why are you calling it a betrayal? He practically didn't have a choice. I can only imagine how he felt in that situation
It’s a better headline
he did have a choice, her family or his. that’s cowardly
@@k4le964 So give up his family for hers?
@@masterbeta6931 he was jewish. he was a target no matter what, all he did was prolong his capture at the expense of someone else’s. if he got caught he should have realized that he doesn’t get brownie points for snitching because nazis don’t have souls. he gained nothing and now has to live with knowing he got an entire family killed. a family just like his. dude is a coward. it’s like siblings who rat on each and both get trouble cowardly and stupid
@@k4le964 It's easy to think you would have courage and principles in such a situation, but experiencing an impossible choice is something very different. Presuming he was indeed the man who snitched her out, he is not the true villain of this story. What of the men who cornered him, the men who dragged a young girl to a concentration camp, the men who killed her, and lastly the state who made such violence possible? Any one of these people could have disobeyed, but either through cowardice or conviction they chose not to.
"Who was thought to have..." Why are we identifying someone on a theory?
I cant even imagine what they went through💔 no one would ever wanna choose between saving your family or another, Rest in Peace to the Frank family and victims of the war💔🙏
Boo hoo. Black lives matter more
So the title of the video SHOULD be, "Anne Frank Betrayal Suspect Possibly Identified after 77 Years".
... along with an equally likely suspect who has shared 'likely betrayer' title from the start - and allowing for it to be a totally unexpected, unknown informer, as well.
It might have been both likeliest betrayers who BOTH informed. Until there is REAL new definitive evidence, we live with LIKELY but never to be known, on at least 2 people.
This is just clickbait
No new evidence. Just clickbait.
Or just not say anything
Arnold could even be innocent.
@@georgielancaster1356 yep. BBC is trash
@@georgielancaster1356 It's worse than clickbait. It's potentially smearing the name and memory of people who may not be guilty. But hey, this is the type of journalism I've come to expect from BBC these days.
This story isn't black, and white. The guy had to save his family.
the story is entirely fabricated to begin with, it's part of the trauma based mind control device. You defend at all costs the very evil which you decry, We call it "the 'ole switcharoo" for the technically minded of us
@@theloniuspunk383 So you would let your family get killed for a stranger you don't know? Stop trying to act so high and mighty knight wannabe.
@@theloniuspunk383 this was copied and pasted...
Very good friends of my family were named Vandenburg ! The couple's families had immigrated before the war, when they were teenagers. He always regretted that he had not been in the Netherlands, to fight for his country. No matter how futile his fighting might have been, he still regretted not having the opportunity.
her final quote is what gets me it's almost like she knew it was over.....
It's sad to think about how if her family were never betrayed that she may have still been alive to this very day. She wanted to be a star well at least she got her wish now...
@Black Toof I don't think so. She would be a contemporary witness and would most definitely have published a book (if not multiple) herself.
😆
Lonewolf 3817 Are you trolling or completely tone deaf?
She died of typhus
@@kemo2547 which spread through the concentration camp she was being held in against her will
In the same situation I think a lot of people would throw another family under the bus to save their own. I think it's mean to vilify someone when the circumstances were horrific.
The horrific circumstances do NOT make the conduct any less criminal or lessen the betrayal. Makes me wonder, whomever it was, how did they live with themselves afterwards.
@@kam5925 Nah mate, you’re virtual singling lmao
@@kam5925 doesn’t lessen the betrayal but you can at least understand why they did it. It’s either your family or theirs. You can’t tell me you’d let your family die in a concentration camp to save another? They were able to live with themselves knowing they saved their own
@@kam5925 stop with the virtue signalling.
I would, with my own hands.
This tremendously helped with my day today thanks again for the stellar reporting keep it up !
The fact that Anne sister Margot also wrote diary but her diary was not founded by her father
It is a disgrace that this man is being named as guilty with only circumstantial evidence. And as he is long dead, he cannot defend himself and his family’s name is blackened.
reminds me of another certain mid-20th century leader..
He was named a suspect.
Yeah, I get the idea they they did research and this is the "most likely" suspect but as they suggested with no DNA evidence and "circumstantial evidence" they have no court of law proof. The tone of this video suggests otherwise.
@@tonshmara suspect for what? He never committed a crime
@@theloniuspunk383Which one? You can say it.
“No man should judge unless he asks himself in absolute honesty whether in a similar situation he might not have done the same.” -Viktor Frankl, 'Man's Search for Meaning'.
i read that! very true
I would rather die knowing I did the right thing than live knowing I indirectly killed someone to save my arse, thank you.
But what about my family members? If they are good people they would understand why I did that. Thank you.
@@PissG haha okay sitting behind your computer. As a parent and if you're a parent you don't believe that. I would give everything to see my kids smile and make sure they're safe.
One of the saddest parts, it was right before the end of the war. So tragic.
I wonder how many people here would endure being tortured by a Nazi…
What a shitty situation to be put in. Everyone can judge this person and give their two cents about his actions but we'll never truly experience what he went through. To choose between your family and the life of someone else. To call him a traitor and say he betrayed is a gross oversimplification of what happened. He was a guy who had no choice but was forced to make one regardless and live with the guilt of it. I suspect almost everyone here, myself included, would have done exactly as he did when the lives of your loved ones are on the line. Blame the people who put him in the situation, not the man himself.
Ikr our society needs to believe in the atonement
You know you can judge things without experiencing them right
@@Woolwoven Sure you can (when did I ever say you can't?). It's still a shit thing to do though. Especially in situations like this. My comment was directed at the people who made it sound so easy saying that the individual is a terrible human being for outing someone even with the context. When it comes down to it, how many of us who mostly live in peaceful times, will be willing to have our own family killed just to save the life of a stranger? You can convince yourself by saying, 'I'd never do that' but that conviction is made from your current perspective and said from the safety of your current position. It's a whole other thing in the moment with all the variables and uncertainty at play. It's very very easy to judge without experiencing something yourself. No one said you can't but oftentimes in circumstances like this, judgement without experience has no value.
Yeh fuck the BBC and the pedos that work for them.
Woolwoven
Yeah, there's a word for that. It's called ASSuming.
Suspect?? How awful to say this. He was also a victim, he was protecting his family and himself. It's so beyond tragic she had to go through that and die so young as well as her family beyond tragic but to say he betrayed her is just cruel and disrespectful
Suspect is the right word to use. A suspect is someone suspected or deserving of suspicion (suspected of betrayal in this case.) But I do agree he was definitely a victim too.
@@7sukuyomi yes but most people will see that word and misinterpret the situation.
true
Don't understand the fuss... Just some kid who died years ago
@@7sukuyomi As long as their descendants vote for the right political party then all betrayal will be forgiven.
i am from india
i read the chapter of diary of anne frank in 9th class i remembered
but now i feel the pain of that innocent girl
god may be peace upon him😞🇮🇳
"They thought" your gonna ruin someone's reputation without even being 100%
Millions of Jews were betrayed by their friends and neighbours before and during the war. Dragged from their homes, beaten, and murdered. Dark. Evil times.
They did it because they were driven to it by their opressors, can you even imagine the torture of letting a family go to their death in order to save your own?
Never again...
@@khem931 Agreed.
In 17th century Scotland, especially the 1680s thousands of Scots were persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and murdered
for their religious beliefs, by opposing Scots, inlcuding members of their own families. Scotland's unreported shame.
@@guvviyulg4821 better than being oppressed by them.
This is wrong. There is an anonymous note and a suspect. That is not a conclusion. Dutch historians agree yet the BBC ran this piece anyway.
It was all made via phone according to Karl Silberbauer. Oh, and if you're wondering who he is... you can now put a name and a face to the man who emptied Anne's diary all over the floor [ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Silberbauer ].
Mustache man was financed by 2 zionist bankers. And the 2 architects of the holodeck were you know whos. Churchill asked the loyal National you know whos to rise up and prove that Bolshevism wasnt a you know who phenomenon. Unfortunately for all of us, the previous 2 generations have failed to stay the course, and we are now descending into Bolshevism.
Historians: We found a note that hints at being the one to give away the Frank family!
Bbc: who cares?
Historians: It looks like they might have been Jewish - -
Bbc: *ON IT, GIVE*
So near the end yet came so far😭😭😭😭😭beats me
What jerk could betray such a lively, happy, vibrant young girl. You'd have to be truly heartless to do that.
Poor girl and her family. Hiding for so long living in fear as many Jews did. Hes not here to defend himself, but as said, in order to save his own family he was put in a position to give up another family. We don't know the circumstances. The enemy here were the nazi's. One of the most disgusting evil things to happen to humanity from the hands of others. She always wanted to be a famous author and she got that but unfortunately never got to see her dream come true. Special girl x
Yes but she got something even better that millions of people will never get, the incredible gift of not only being a number, but always being remembered! :) even when children learn about WWII in 50 years, they will still learn about her and her story. I think it's really beautiful that her father published her diary because this way her story, their story will never ever die :)
Now theyre doing the same with the palestinians
Wait I’m so confused. Who is he?
@@mjk6949 In what fantasy land is that happening? Since Israel claimed independence in 1948, the Arab “Palestinian” population has tripled. That’s literally the opposite of Genocide.
@@Channel-ml4qv no such thing as Israel. Keep trying to spread your propaganda Zionist, it helps us by making people see your lies
I still can’t comprehend the despicable cruelty of the Nazi. To say they were like animals is an insult to animals.
Oh dear, another brainwashed person who doesn't know when he's been fooled
Oh god. Is this Chris Guy for real. What a dark we live in.
This is still happening in Chinese concentration camps, in Rohingya and Palestine.
Holodomor?
@@christee9590 You talking about yourself?
Heartbreaking 😢
Life goes on
99.999% of us would never even dare to sacrifice our own family for another. He wasn't a betrayer. He was yet another victim of one of humanities worst events
Um, 100% of blm would easily sell out thier own kind just to save Just themselves.
@@Junomaster2006 100% of your people would follow people blindly without fact-checking
@@Junomaster2006 In this comment section where we're talking about the memory of a poor young girl who went through atrocities experience by 6 million others, can you NOT stew hate for just a few moments? Is that too much to ask??
@@lucklabbers2113 What about the blm rioters that chose to take their children to these events? They knew their children would/could get hurt there.
Im wondering why some people in this comment section are expecting others to sacrafice their family for another, im pretty sure they wouldnt sacrafice their family too.
Words like "betray" automatically paints the picture of the person as being evil, when the truly evil ones are the murderers that made that family run and hide in an attic, in the first place.
They had it coming, no one has that much patience especially humans. Really unfortunate how it played out, but maybe think about the worker or veterans and things like this wouldn’t happen. If the inflation and rent keeps rising history will repeat itself
The small hat people were in charge at first and abused it then got it taken away by force. Letting millions starve while the unemployment rate was around 7 million all because they got blamed for the First World War. I wouldn’t watch that in my country and I sure as hell wouldn’t watch someone move in my country and take advantage of my people during this time
Title: Suspect Identified after 77 years...
Reporter: We will never know the suspect
I wish they'd have turned that camera around to get the view up the canal. (Prinsengracht) I have a friend from Pennsylvania who's been living there on a boat for the past 20 years. I hope you're doing well, Ted!
I remember reading Anne Frank’s diary in 6th grade, and being disturbed for several years on what kind of person could have had the heart to turn her and her family in. As time went on and as I learned more about history, wars, and psychology, it became more obvious that it’s in our human nature to do the unthinkable if it means ensuring the survival of our loved ones, or even to protect ourselves. Unfortunately, it’s also human nature to be greedy and desire power, financial well-being, etc - and hoped that wasn’t the reason why the Frank family was turned in. Anyways; clicked on this thinking it was finally known who the person was - but guess it’s still possibly a mystery since evidence seems to be based on just an anonymous letter. If it was van den Bergh, then guess I’m glad it didn’t turn out to be the heartless and greedy villain type; as it seems he was forced to do it to protect his own loved ones.
Imagine betraying other people to save your family. That only happens in that era. We never had such huge decision in our generation, and for that, we must be thankful. 🥺
@@adrianpaulo7302 wait im new to this story sry about that um
@@adrianpaulo7302 A friend of mine who was blackmailed by the FBI and police had to make a similar dreadful decision. There is still totalitarian control even today disguised behind fake patriotic jingoism and media distraction.
@@alaljarensi6990 what was your friend doing?
@@phabiorules this is a good question
The report doesn’t say how betraying Anne’s Jewish family saved his Jewish family.
Who all of the sudden decided after 77 years to investigate this?
Its such bullshit probably some political agenda behind it can't trust main stream media, they are all about polluting brains with narrative for their own benifit or the highest bidder.
He became a Nazi informant, his family was one of the only ones in the town why were left alone, that's how the AI determined who it was.
@Ego Master 💀
It’s not sudden, this has been ongoing since the end of the war. Investigating who did this never really stopped.
@Ego Master imagine being an incel like you
Whoever did this, your betrayal will be remembered in eternity
I hope the guy who snitched on them was never happy ever again and only felt the regret for that
“They relied only on circumstantial evidence and a note”
That’s speculation not proof.
With the BBC anything goes these days. Can't wait til 2027!
What you said is also speculation
To be fair they're not being identified as a definite culprit. Identified as a suspect only.
@@karlmuud the days have gone of the BBC being the last people to report a story but making sure what they reported was true now they are after the clickbait headline desperate to be first with facts taking second place
@@graveperil2169 they wrote, “suspect identified” in the title.
Imagine having to choose between the lives of your loved ones and the lives of someone else's loved ones. That's horrible. :(
No for him apparently to him it was a pretty easy decision.
Honey you ain't never lie. Hope to God we will never find out.
@I Think My Son's a Canadian Oh look it's the guy who would sacrifice his own family to the nazis to protect random strangers
@I Think My Son's a Canadian So if the nazis told you that you would be sacrificing your own people to protect some stranger you would go through with that? Good to know
@@ssgemactv1775 it’s ridiculous isn’t it, people just need something in their lives to be outraged about
Totally not surprised!!!
Rip you dear angel I've just finished your diary I'm sorry for reading your private thoughts I think we would have been good friends I refuse to let your tragic story define who you was as a person. In a world full of despicable cruelty you was the biggest brightest ray of sunshine forever in my heart
Yours Tom ❤
hate on him all you like, if the story is true, i personally can’t help but highly respect him. He did it to save his family, that choice had to be hard, impossible for anyone to imagine right now. But i think everyone would make that same choice he did
Fear, the enemy of trust.
Shame 😥
I definitely would have let my family die to make sure Anne and her family were kept safe. My family sucks and Anne's family rocks.
@@alexjones2677 but you wasn't there with your family at that time, you wouldn't know what you would do, it is all well saying it now, but in that moment you have no idea what you would actually do.
@@alexjones2677 😂
Anakin slaughtered youngling and destroyed the Jedi Order to save his family too.
Let’s be real here. Nobody in the comments are going to sell out their family just to save someone else.
It’s human nature
Was thinking the same it's a no brainer
It is human nature, and I think it would be wrong to save someone else's instead of your own
It’s extremely shocking to be betrayed on a time where chaos and fear was all taking down to place
Anne inspired me to keep a diary up until high school. My diaries are lost to time but Anne's will never be forgotten.
In other words we still don’t know who betrayed her ! “ We suspect “ , is not admissible in a court of law! Unless there is fact ,he should never have been named !
Agreed. His descendants now will have this cloud around them....without any actual proof he was guilty.
@@queenbunnyfoofoo6112
After this long would you trust anything that the media says?
@Anglo
Because it was the biggest atrocity in Europe that is why.
@@bighands69 I haven't trusted them for years...this "report" just reinforces that. Notice the lack of critical thinking skills in the comment section. They admit it's based on an anonymous source, so there's no proof....but people are ready to condemn this guy (who can't defend himself because he's dead).
@@bighands69 sort of i mean Stalin starved 6 million Ukrainians to death.
Statistically speaking, most people, including the news readers and the people who called this person a 'betrayer' would have done EXACTLY the same thing. This isn't simply just a morality issue - this is doing what you have to do to either survive or save your loved ones.
From looking at history, most people would sell out others with much less on the line.
Still makes them a betrayer
speak for yourself, weakling
My father told me after the war when he was off duty he went a local pub to get a drank some of the German men still in uniform went up to him and had a drink as well they said that they did not want to fight in the war, the Nazi held a gun to their parents head and to his sisters head told him if he did not fight they would shoot them,, so he had to fight, One guy said that his aunt and cousins was killed because his cousin refuse to fight, then they made him
Personally I’d kill myself with that information bc I wouldn’t live with myself either way but I understand why he did. Don’t assume everybody would make the same choice. Like you said we don’t know who would be capable of what
@@lunarialoonatic when it got to that point I would have a conversation with my family with what to do, if they all agree with being killed, I would had went to fight, but then there were kids in the family even babies what would I do for them, I would probably had joined the army I would had or had other family member go after the Nazies family who came to the door, and to him after the war
The guy who told the Germans where she was didnt betray her. Her father did so by heavily editing her diary so he wouldnt be seen as the terrible father he really was.
"PAPER HAS MORE PATIENCE THAN PEOPLE"
~Anne Frank
a betrayer? he's being called a betrayer because he refused to sacrifice his family & did what any loving, responsible husband & father would do. we really are living in Bizarro world
There's a real lack of evidence concerning this whole thing.
There is plenty online. And What do you think her Diary is? EVIDENCE.
@Mr Right the zionist israeli government are killing everyday
@Mr Right no one is arrested simply for not believing
2023 - I look at the Holocaust with not only sad and angry eyes but I also look at what's going on today. I'm wondering if the US is headed for that right now. If we don't get a handle on today's events we may be doomed to repeat history.
I heard someone say, "war is hell."