I think they should finally let us use heroes when they are upgrading. Maybe make their health regen take twice as long, just like the spell factories, the barrack and workshop train their respective units slowly.
theres no actual point of being good defensively, if you manage your resources right, then you wont get attacked. Plus if the guy attacking you isnt a complete idiot he could easily, at least, one star you
@@Attu9 is this comment a joke? y'know how important defense is in war? Goodluck getting into a clan that actually wins wars to get ores with that philosophy lol
@@alexblackfire8327 if you’re rushed, there’s no point in trying to get your defenses to the max level before your heroes/equipment does, being good offensively is so much more useful than defensively, and as I said, if you don’t get 3 starred, it’s usually a misplay from the opponent, a good player will 3 star you anyway
@@Attu9 no one is disputing a good offense is a better defense, and no one upgrades heroes for the defense, but it is a critical component of both. If you're rushed already then yeah you're screwed and need to do that
In my Clan, we war even we have incomplete Heroes, it's because we are all friends, we don't care if we lose, as long as we Get loot, (it's better than nothing though). We just play and enjoy the game 😁
@@preston2601 I got a mismatch I am th9 and got mat her with max th12 I still one star with getting the th with so much planning with the leader and a veteran in the clan 😂
I mean not really, the whole purpose of upgrading your heroes was to upgrade their abilities but now that’s completely separate and the gear is more important than the hero levels. Upgrading heroes = no war which = no resource for upgrading hero gear. Plus completing abandoning hero upgrades till TH14 makes it so you can get there way faster and then start making the most out of your books
@@nameless3200 how does your invis matter if your qeen gets oneshot by a scattershot. Just because the equipment is more important you can't just ignore the levels
@@Usererror28 TH-cam is weird af, I just now got a notification for this reply wtf 😂. Dude was clearly throwing a subtle diss so I threw one back, it wasn’t that deep 🤷♂️
Just bite the bullet and upgrade your heros, you'll wish you had. You only get 3 potions a week, so farming is gonna suck. Hero lvls are important on defense to. Anybody who thinks hero lvls dont matter, doesnt know what they are talking about.
Thank you, well said. I was just about to write this. People don’t skip upgrades. You will regret it. Catching up at higher th isn’t fun at all. And why waste dark elixir. You will regret that too. Just upgrade now!
Our clan doesn't care much on winning or losing in wars even if we start a war with all heroes undergoing upgrades. All we care about is getting those loots and ores and having fun.
I used to think he was accurate. But he's off base telling people not to upgrade heros. Upgrade ur heros. Potions aren't realistic unless ur talking a second account. Also if coc devs think Meta is to not upgrade heros, they will change thay real fast and everyone will regret not upgrading
This hero potion update has been terrible for my lower level clan. The other clan will have tons of rushed higher town halls so we match them with war weight. Then they use hero potions and crush everyone aside from me as I'm a th 16. They got rewarded for rushing their heros. People that put no time in to upgrading heros should not have the same attack capabilities as someone who has taken the absurd amount of time to max their heros.
@@theamazingspooderman2697 you misunderstand. The other clan is rushed, meaning they have higher town hall levels. This means their power potions and hero potions make their troops much stronger than anything this clan can match.
Pro tip: you can also spend your de towards activating super troops. When in excess of de, simply select the super troop you want to booost, cancel and boost until you reach the de amount you desire to store. This way, you can unlock an achievement and receive gems, so it isn't wsted
Find a clan that war all the time 30-40 participants where upgrading your heroes isn't a concern, you just have to hit lower. Our clan win/loss ratio is impressive, 3-1.
I’m not a fan of only being able to be affective with heroes when I have a hero potion. It means I can’t do well in normal attacks and I can’t do friendly challenges either, so for that reason I will continue to play the “old way” and grind my heroes at the beginning of a new TH level
I still personally see a reason to upgrade heros since especially if your not on every day you won’t always have hero potions and there will be a point in time where this won’t be as efficient
With hero potion changes, I wouldnt bother upgrading heroes hardly at all unless you have hero books. A lot of stats of the heroes are now tied to hero equipment, so you wanna level those up and war as often as possible to get ores. And for those wars, you can just use hero potions anytime you need max heroes. Having high level heroes is not important for farming with sneakies.
I personally feel there should be a decrease in the cost of the hammer of heroes as upgrading just one hero level is kinda waste now (as the abilities are now no longer getting upgraded every 5 levels of the hero). Also, there can be a new item in the League shop, called the Hammer of Equipment which can upgrade any hero equipment by one level in just one hit.
Man you fr the best coc TH-camr. answering real questions about the game and making real content instead of just flashing a maxed TH16 and talking outta your ass
You can actually do hero upgrades that are 3 days long (or at least 2.5 days) without stopping on War. Do your 2 attacks ASAP, within the hour. Then, upgrade your hero. Battle Day should take another day, lets say that you take 3 hours between Battle Day ending and you finding a Clan to war against. Then another Preperation day which is 23h long. So you still have 23h left on hero upgrade. So squeeze in your two war attacks in the last hour of Battle Day.
@@Jackthesavage well, that's the thing, the "meta is now to rush and rush and rush, which leaves your heroes basically at lvl1, but with this strategy you can comfortably upgrade to at least level 40 or something along those lines, gw and rc probably less.
@@randall517 it's an option. While u have to upgrade more than 30+ levels to get good book value. But with queen she gets with 60 + . Which is not that hard. And she will much more flexibility for the army . While warden won't give u many strategies to work with .
@venkatsaipadishala1916 while I will agree that the Q is stronger say in a Q walk, your avg player cant Q walk very well at the higher lvls. The warden walks are more forgiving and strong as well. But I upgrade my Q and Warden simultaneously anyways. Always the first 2 to finish.
Idk why people are making this so complicated just upgrade your heroes guys💀💀 if you are that low of a level that your heroes aren’t in the 70s then you likely won’t be put in war anyway
Let your heroes sleep and get upgraded. who cares if you lose the war? you'll get 60% ores anyway. Get a chill clan that has the same mindset as you, those who do farm wars or FWA. The only reason you do not want to upgrade your heroes is that you are afraid that the members think you are not competitive or they will not include you on the next spin coz you don't have any heroes.
We have more than 90% win rate and we sometimes have streak of 14-15 wars win constantly, its hard for us to upgrade our heroes as we are in war and we have to win. I really hope supercell makes it so that we can use heroes in war even with upgrading.
My clan just doesn’t really care about heroes being up during regular clan wars. Even with the ore rewards, it’s just about getting what you can during those clan wars. CWL we have to have heroes up, but not regular wars.
Another strategy is to have a war once a week, preferably on the weekend, because the hero upgrade at higher level is around 7-8 days. After finishing your attack, immediately put your heroes down.
You should be able to 3 star any base 1th lower than yours without 1 hero. So train yourself to swag atleast 1 hero in every attack. You should be able to continuously upgrade 1 hero at a time .
@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306 there's a thousand different attack strategies, heroes are definitely helpful, but if you are good enough, you can 3 star without any.
Even as a strategic rusher I think this update really messed up the game at least temporarily. Hero Potions are way too strong while being laughably easy to access. Like you said upgrading heroes has significantly diminished in terms of importance. Supercell should revert the Hero Potion change or make it harder to access while reworking the hero upgrade process. Either have heroes usable during upgrades (perhaps with some minor downside such as increased healing time/slightly lower stats) or cut the time and resource requirements to a fraction of what they are rn. These are just my opinions so lmk what you think.
I have decided not to go to the 16 immediately because I want to war with all my heroes up to upgrade new equipmen. I've got everything maxed (except walls of course) at the 15
As someone whose been maxxed out for years, I forgot how many issues there are with ppl just getting into this game. I appreciate y’all, YOU WILL GET THERE 🔥🔥🔥
Why cant supercell just make upgrading heroes the same as upgrading defences for clan wars so that you upgrade them but during war they are available just on the lower level (the one it has right now aka before the upgrade is finished)
After a perfect 21 star clan war league, I forgot to set change my war preference and didn't have queen or warden when clan queued for war. Got 2 zero star attacks. Definitely not worth warring when heros are down.
Use your clan War league medals for hammer of heroes... for the dark elixer and hero time up is well worth it. If you don't upgrade your heroes you are missing out...
@@unclecid2460 hammer of heroes saves you from needing dark elixer... which is worth it in my opinion... plus you get to practice with heroes up all the time... if you constantly have heroes down you are missing out of clan War, loot, gear mats... using hammers on anything non dark elixer based is a waste
@@unclecid2460 what would you rather work on? Skill or defensive structures? When you use hammer of heroes you are able to work on skill of attacking and the heroes defensive power... when you work with hammer of building you are aren't helping your attack at all and you are only saving gold which is so easy to acquire... I guess me being a fully max town hall 15 before I moved to town hall 16 gave me an edge... I would only use a hammer of fighting or spells for dark elixer troops. Dark elixer is much harder to get
You can also upgrade hero's constantly, and play war in another clan. If you have 5 accounts or 1 co-leader account in an inactive clan with enough players, you can farm ores passively by losing wars in that clan. That way you can progress your heroes and equipement the most efficient and not screw over your main clan by sucking at war.
can you make a video on how to properly start a clan, and advice for clan building or maintaining existing clan, to get more players etc, because almost no TH-camrs have covered this area and the videos I can find are really old. and arent relevant anymore
So since I’m at town hall 9 I shouldn’t upgrade my heroes until 14? So they are going to be lvl 1 and 20 until then? Won’t my heroes be way to low when I battle? Am I always going to have to use a potion?
My clan is great, we war as much as possible, except on holiday weeks like christmas or halloween or thanksgiving, but they also dont care if you have all heroes or not for regular clan wars, we dont do regular wars to win, we do it for practice and for loot, however you will have to have all heroes up for cwl so i have had to drop about 2000 gems on books because of bad time management on my end
@ lightningdragon666 I totally agree SuperCell should just allow use of them during war. They already allow buildings that are building to be active during war like defenses.
I am th13 almost maxed and i just do both.😅 i am 13 in war so i just 2 star number 1/2 what i am consistently doing against th16s so my clan doesnt care to much.
Dude the single thing that you're forgetting is that no decent clan is going to take in th14s with level 15-20 heros. Been there still am struggling, my heros are 58-59-40-30 yet am facing hardship just to even land in masters 3 clans
I just keep 1 hero down because my job in the clan is just to get 1 or 2 stars on the highest th with sneaky goblins and the higher th's attack my bases
I am top1 in my clan and have been upgrading 2 heroes at once me and the top 2,top 3 is th14 and we won some wars.now as the #1 of my clan I stopped upgrading so i can get 3* on nb 1 and 2 so we don't lose wars anymore.i am at th 15 and my queen is already maxed so from after the cwl and on i will only be upgrading 1 hero at a time and another one whenever i get a book
im currently at th12 a bit rushed upgrading defenses and im thinking about joining war should i join war or rush to th 14 and catch up on upgrades then?
So you would rather invest on hero potions than research potions? Came back as a th8 this Sept and now a TH 14 with max queen and unicorn. Kinda feels bad
Wth ur taking about. The actual fun of the game is in "attacking" . U can't get best attacking experience with "low level hero" . I prefer not to upgrade my heroes on "CWL times" . Other type i always put 2 builders for hero. I upgrade grand wardens with book/hammer . I only make my heros awake up till they are max . Until that i keep my heroes upgraded. Don't all hero on same time. One/two hero on same time according to th/war
Tbh im going to upgrade my hero to previous th max because the hero equipment doesnt upgrade every 5 level nor the equipment is percentage base except the rage vial
Hi Bd I saw you do a lot of surveys I wanted to ask you if you can do one to ask if the clash players would they like to have 2/3 slots in addition to do challenges? Thank you
Bro i already have 35 king 49 queen 33 warden so i just cannot up them manually even with builder portion trick although i have level 1 rc so still i can get to her at least So bro should i stop considering all of them except rc untill she gets to level 5+ at least or should i stop for a couple of wars to get through those levels
Is it just me or do others think that we should get a quick access slot for the pet house and blacksmith like the builders and lab? And also is it just me or do others wish we had a permanent 2nd research and pet slot?
why not make the heroes available on wars like defenses even while upgrading? if the devs still wants some downside then they can do stuff like sleeping/upgrading heroes cannot be boosted by hero potion something like that. but not totally disabled like what it was more than a decade ago up to now. hope the devs consider this especially war is one of the main source of ores. its the sense of the game to make clans clash. always go to war. not to wait on the sideline baby sitting your sleeping heroes.
Its not usable when your heros gets 4days or more upgrade time ,we must play war without heros or skip war.. Best thing to do is upgrade heros as much as u can and get into a clan where you can play war without heros.. Supercell should let us use heros in cwl even if heros on upgrade.allowing on upgrade heros on normal war will be too much freedom
Yo bro I have been watching you for more than a year and I am a th 11 player (in traditional way of playing) so basically I have realized that it will take a lot of time to reach th16 and to enjoy the added stuffs to game so please make a guide video for me to how can I reach th16 fast and my bade,heroes, etc stay powerfull as I am a regular war player And including that I have already decided that no matter what th level I am I will only upgrade my wall to lvl 12 and after my base is fully maxed according to th16 then I am going to start upgradeibg my walls becos yk walls take a lot of time and there are many troops/spells/siege machines which break our wall,jump over our walls etc so like these give me some tips for my journey to th16 as fast as possible and please. Make sure by base stays strong according to each th level as I play wars -thanks
Yo bro I have been watching you for more than a year and I am a th 11 player (in traditional way of playing) so basically I have realized that it will take a lot of time to reach th16 and to enjoy the added stuffs to game so please make a guide video for me to how can I reach th16 fast and my bade,heroes, etc stay powerfull as I am a regular war player And including that I have already decided that no matter what th level I am I will only upgrade my wall to lvl 12 and after my base is fully maxed according to th16 then I am going to start upgradeibg my walls becos yk walls take a lot of time and there are many troops/spells/siege machines which break our wall,jump over our walls etc so like these give me some tips for my journey to th16 as fast as possible and please. Make sure by base stays strong according to each th level as I play wars -thanksYo bro I have been watching you for more than a year and I am a th 11 player (in traditional way of playing) so basically I have realized that it will take a lot of time to reach th16 and to enjoy the added stuffs to game so please make a guide video for me to how can I reach th16 fast and my bade,heroes, etc stay powerfull as I am a regular war player And including that I have already decided that no matter what th level I am I will only upgrade my wall to lvl 12 and after my base is fully maxed according to th16 then I am going to start upgradeibg my walls becos yk walls take a lot of time and there are many troops/spells/siege machines which break our wall,jump over our walls etc so like these give me some tips for my journey to th16 as fast as possible and please. Make sure by base stays strong according to each th level as I play wars -thanks
I think they should finally let us use heroes when they are upgrading. Maybe make their health regen take twice as long, just like the spell factories, the barrack and workshop train their respective units slowly.
Supercell would lose way to much money if they did that.
Not really it's will just benefits active player, what should supercell do is make heroes useable in war only, you can't use it in CWL or Multiplayer
Maybe they could lower their level to make it more balanced. Or disable their ability.
@@SevenGo-v9v That is a good idea.
@@MJScoutArchMarright. It is intentional so that we need to gem, buy potions, books, or whatever helps.
People never mention the effect low hero levels have defensively. That’s the main reason I would still upgrade my hero’s early when possible.
This and also you'll be kicked by 99% of good active clans because you can't contribute lol
theres no actual point of being good defensively, if you manage your resources right, then you wont get attacked. Plus if the guy attacking you isnt a complete idiot he could easily, at least, one star you
@@Attu9 is this comment a joke? y'know how important defense is in war? Goodluck getting into a clan that actually wins wars to get ores with that philosophy lol
@@alexblackfire8327 if you’re rushed, there’s no point in trying to get your defenses to the max level before your heroes/equipment does, being good offensively is so much more useful than defensively, and as I said, if you don’t get 3 starred, it’s usually a misplay from the opponent, a good player will 3 star you anyway
@@Attu9 no one is disputing a good offense is a better defense, and no one upgrades heroes for the defense, but it is a critical component of both. If you're rushed already then yeah you're screwed and need to do that
In my Clan, we war even we have incomplete Heroes, it's because we are all friends, we don't care if we lose, as long as we Get loot, (it's better than nothing though). We just play and enjoy the game 😁
yeah same here, also even if we lose we are still getting ores, that's better than no ores
My friends put their hero's to update while cwl is going 💀
@@preston2601 I got a mismatch I am th9 and got mat her with max th12 I still one star with getting the th with so much planning with the leader and a veteran in the clan 😂
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Best value for me is that if you find clan that allow war even if your heroes get down for upgrade
All clans allow war without heroes, as long as you can 3 star your mirror, which is very possible without a hero or two. It comes down to skill.
Upgrading ur heroes is better to do now than later if u are a maxer/strategic rusher
I mean not really, the whole purpose of upgrading your heroes was to upgrade their abilities but now that’s completely separate and the gear is more important than the hero levels. Upgrading heroes = no war which = no resource for upgrading hero gear. Plus completing abandoning hero upgrades till TH14 makes it so you can get there way faster and then start making the most out of your books
@@nameless3200have fun queencharging with your level 1 queen then.😂
@@Lau2856. it’s literally been proven that the gear matters way more than lvls so as long as I have high lvl gear, I’ll be just fine 😂
@@nameless3200 how does your invis matter if your qeen gets oneshot by a scattershot. Just because the equipment is more important you can't just ignore the levels
Just use hero potions as they max your hero’s now
I am Starting TH 13 and got max TH 12 heroes. It feels good to not rush.
Damn you’ll probably get to TH14 right around the time I get to TH16 😂
@@unclecid2460 bro grow up. Quite certain They aren’t racing you.
@@nameless3200he could prolly still 3 star you eith his th 14.
@@cxst0r715 😱😱😱 oh no not a 3 star
@@Usererror28 TH-cam is weird af, I just now got a notification for this reply wtf 😂. Dude was clearly throwing a subtle diss so I threw one back, it wasn’t that deep 🤷♂️
One bonus tip .. you can attack fast at war... Then after you 2 attacks are down upgrade heroes... It gives you around 48-71h...
Bro I need a week no 2 days
Wait for phase 2 then
@@LocksVid just use a book of heroes
6 day hero upgrades...
I need minimum of 3days 12 hours.cause my heros are over lv 30
Just bite the bullet and upgrade your heros, you'll wish you had. You only get 3 potions a week, so farming is gonna suck. Hero lvls are important on defense to. Anybody who thinks hero lvls dont matter, doesnt know what they are talking about.
Thank you, well said. I was just about to write this. People don’t skip upgrades. You will regret it. Catching up at higher th isn’t fun at all. And why waste dark elixir. You will regret that too. Just upgrade now!
exactly, plus u can buy research potions instead of hero potions to speed up lab
Such poor advice to tell people to not upgrade their heroes
Our clan doesn't care much on winning or losing in wars even if we start a war with all heroes undergoing upgrades. All we care about is getting those loots and ores and having fun.
I mean if upgrading defenses are active during wars why shouldn't be heroes?
Exactly! Hope they bring that feature in future
I used to think he was accurate. But he's off base telling people not to upgrade heros. Upgrade ur heros. Potions aren't realistic unless ur talking a second account. Also if coc devs think Meta is to not upgrade heros, they will change thay real fast and everyone will regret not upgrading
This hero potion update has been terrible for my lower level clan. The other clan will have tons of rushed higher town halls so we match them with war weight. Then they use hero potions and crush everyone aside from me as I'm a th 16. They got rewarded for rushing their heros. People that put no time in to upgrading heros should not have the same attack capabilities as someone who has taken the absurd amount of time to max their heros.
then u can use hero potions too?
@@theamazingspooderman2697 how does that help the th 13's in my clan compete with the th 15's in the other clan?
@@theamazingspooderman2697 you misunderstand. The other clan is rushed, meaning they have higher town hall levels. This means their power potions and hero potions make their troops much stronger than anything this clan can match.
I'm excited for the Frost arrow Epic Queen gear hinted at in a supercell dev video
it's actually present in the game files now. supercell just disabled it for now.
Its comming in lunar event
lunar event is in February or January?
january @@theamazingspooderman2697
@@theamazingspooderman2697 February I think
Pro tip: you can also spend your de towards activating super troops. When in excess of de, simply select the super troop you want to booost, cancel and boost until you reach the de amount you desire to store. This way, you can unlock an achievement and receive gems, so it isn't wsted
Wait what achievement?
Find a clan that war all the time 30-40 participants where upgrading your heroes isn't a concern, you just have to hit lower. Our clan win/loss ratio is impressive, 3-1.
I’m not a fan of only being able to be affective with heroes when I have a hero potion. It means I can’t do well in normal attacks and I can’t do friendly challenges either, so for that reason I will continue to play the “old way” and grind my heroes at the beginning of a new TH level
I still personally see a reason to upgrade heros since especially if your not on every day you won’t always have hero potions and there will be a point in time where this won’t be as efficient
I buy research potions instead of hero potions and that's why I still upgrade heroes
@@theamazingspooderman2697 personally research potions are still more valuable in my opinion
@@theamazingspooderman2697 yeah above some levels i think its more efficient to buy research potions
With hero potion changes, I wouldnt bother upgrading heroes hardly at all unless you have hero books. A lot of stats of the heroes are now tied to hero equipment, so you wanna level those up and war as often as possible to get ores. And for those wars, you can just use hero potions anytime you need max heroes. Having high level heroes is not important for farming with sneakies.
I personally feel there should be a decrease in the cost of the hammer of heroes as upgrading just one hero level is kinda waste now (as the abilities are now no longer getting upgraded every 5 levels of the hero). Also, there can be a new item in the League shop, called the Hammer of Equipment which can upgrade any hero equipment by one level in just one hit.
Man you fr the best coc TH-camr. answering real questions about the game and making real content instead of just flashing a maxed TH16 and talking outta your ass
I have been upgrading heros for years using hammers and books. Never missed a clan war. It takes a bit longer waiting on books to show up but its free
You can actually do hero upgrades that are 3 days long (or at least 2.5 days) without stopping on War. Do your 2 attacks ASAP, within the hour. Then, upgrade your hero. Battle Day should take another day, lets say that you take 3 hours between Battle Day ending and you finding a Clan to war against. Then another Preperation day which is 23h long. So you still have 23h left on hero upgrade. So squeeze in your two war attacks in the last hour of Battle Day.
My hero upgrades take 8 days?
@@Jackthesavage 💀💀💀
@@JackthesavageMy hero take 6 day 12 hour to update
@@Jackthesavage well, that's the thing, the "meta is now to rush and rush and rush, which leaves your heroes basically at lvl1, but with this strategy you can comfortably upgrade to at least level 40 or something along those lines, gw and rc probably less.
I max my heroes before moving to the next town hall.
the hero upgrade that does not matter that much is Grand warden, bcoz u use him for his ability. u might be better off investing boh on queen or rc.
You must not do very many warden walks. Only one of the strongest metas in the game 😆.
@@randall517 it's an option. While u have to upgrade more than 30+ levels to get good book value. But with queen she gets with 60 + . Which is not that hard. And she will much more flexibility for the army . While warden won't give u many strategies to work with .
@venkatsaipadishala1916 while I will agree that the Q is stronger say in a Q walk, your avg player cant Q walk very well at the higher lvls. The warden walks are more forgiving and strong as well. But I upgrade my Q and Warden simultaneously anyways. Always the first 2 to finish.
@@randall517 good for u. Keep clashing.
how many levels do you think is enough for warden for a th12?
Idk why people are making this so complicated just upgrade your heroes guys💀💀 if you are that low of a level that your heroes aren’t in the 70s then you likely won’t be put in war anyway
What if you can’t get to the 70s in your town hall
@@owenwarner8829 Then try find a low town hall clan and grind for 6 months to get to like th13 and strategic rush
Gold pass monthly is the best value in game, usually has 2 hero books too
Let your heroes sleep and get upgraded. who cares if you lose the war? you'll get 60% ores anyway. Get a chill clan that has the same mindset as you, those who do farm wars or FWA. The only reason you do not want to upgrade your heroes is that you are afraid that the members think you are not competitive or they will not include you on the next spin coz you don't have any heroes.
Summary is to level up low heroes and only max when when equipment is maxed.
You can also do fwa war while heros are up
Most needed video bro
This video for noobs. My method for maxing my heroes put them down upgrading tell CWL and in wars just get two stars easy without any heroes at all.
Super helpful! Thanks BD!
My boy made a video to help slackers & minis lol
u can also just attack the prevous war early so u have 3 days till next war
We have more than 90% win rate and we sometimes have streak of 14-15 wars win constantly, its hard for us to upgrade our heroes as we are in war and we have to win. I really hope supercell makes it so that we can use heroes in war even with upgrading.
What is the most valuable thing for each town hall to buy with gems?
My clan just doesn’t really care about heroes being up during regular clan wars. Even with the ore rewards, it’s just about getting what you can during those clan wars. CWL we have to have heroes up, but not regular wars.
I want to join your clan ...vlan tag please
Another strategy is to have a war once a week, preferably on the weekend, because the hero upgrade at higher level is around 7-8 days. After finishing your attack, immediately put your heroes down.
you miss out on ores that way though. Everything comes at a cost intentionally to increase sc profit.
@@Otingocni You can still get from star bonus tho, and some us have school or work to do. So it's pretty balanced tbh
that does not refute anything i said now does it...@@ernestregia
You should be able to 3 star any base 1th lower than yours without 1 hero. So train yourself to swag atleast 1 hero in every attack. You should be able to continuously upgrade 1 hero at a time .
You can easily 3 star a base at your level without 1 or 2 heroes, it just comes down to skill.
@@goldenfleece2600meta attacks like lavaloons or hybrid definitely needs heroes
@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306 there's a thousand different attack strategies, heroes are definitely helpful, but if you are good enough, you can 3 star without any.
Yes ignore that you unlocked pet untill max then you can use it forever
Even as a strategic rusher I think this update really messed up the game at least temporarily. Hero Potions are way too strong while being laughably easy to access. Like you said upgrading heroes has significantly diminished in terms of importance. Supercell should revert the Hero Potion change or make it harder to access while reworking the hero upgrade process. Either have heroes usable during upgrades (perhaps with some minor downside such as increased healing time/slightly lower stats) or cut the time and resource requirements to a fraction of what they are rn. These are just my opinions so lmk what you think.
My heroes were maxed: lv65, lv65 & lv40 when I upgraded my town hall to lvl 13 even.
I’m rocking lvl 15 giant arrow too.
We’re at the point where this shouldn’t be a debate.
I have decided not to go to the 16 immediately because I want to war with all my heroes up to upgrade new equipmen. I've got everything maxed (except walls of course) at the 15
I do that too. Upgrade everything than town hall.
There should be level requirements for heroes for leveling the abilities to avoid Over power low level heroes
fuck no, this is just a progress nerf
There is already a level limit on the blacksmith so you can't have lv 18 equipment with lv 10 hero's I think that's enough
As someone whose been maxxed out for years, I forgot how many issues there are with ppl just getting into this game. I appreciate y’all, YOU WILL GET THERE 🔥🔥🔥
Why cant supercell just make upgrading heroes the same as upgrading defences for clan wars so that you upgrade them but during war they are available just on the lower level (the one it has right now aka before the upgrade is finished)
After a perfect 21 star clan war league, I forgot to set change my war preference and didn't have queen or warden when clan queued for war. Got 2 zero star attacks. Definitely not worth warring when heros are down.
So I gotta upgrade:
BK & AQ to lvl 35
GW to lvl 25
RC to lvl 8 (lvl 10 with books)
before rushing to TH16?
Use your clan War league medals for hammer of heroes... for the dark elixer and hero time up is well worth it. If you don't upgrade your heroes you are missing out...
@@unclecid2460 hammer of heroes saves you from needing dark elixer... which is worth it in my opinion... plus you get to practice with heroes up all the time... if you constantly have heroes down you are missing out of clan War, loot, gear mats... using hammers on anything non dark elixer based is a waste
@@unclecid2460 what would you rather work on? Skill or defensive structures? When you use hammer of heroes you are able to work on skill of attacking and the heroes defensive power... when you work with hammer of building you are aren't helping your attack at all and you are only saving gold which is so easy to acquire... I guess me being a fully max town hall 15 before I moved to town hall 16 gave me an edge... I would only use a hammer of fighting or spells for dark elixer troops. Dark elixer is much harder to get
You can also upgrade hero's constantly, and play war in another clan. If you have 5 accounts or 1 co-leader account in an inactive clan with enough players, you can farm ores passively by losing wars in that clan. That way you can progress your heroes and equipement the most efficient and not screw over your main clan by sucking at war.
Vers important video! Thanks 🔥💪
Delaying the thing that take longest in the game seems like a horrible idea
New to th13 and he says “with the excess dark elixer” even though I barley have enough to upgrade my queen only 😂😭
can you make a video on how to properly start a clan, and advice for clan building or maintaining existing clan, to get more players etc, because almost no TH-camrs have covered this area and the videos I can find are really old. and arent relevant anymore
So since I’m at town hall 9 I shouldn’t upgrade my heroes until 14? So they are going to be lvl 1 and 20 until then? Won’t my heroes be way to low when I battle? Am I always going to have to use a potion?
Wait who is putting your rushed bases in war ? 😂 You're just guaranteed 3 stars and pretty useless
You would be surprised, my clan is in masters league and there is lots of semi rushed bases, but they always use potions to attack us lol
Great video like always!
My clan is great, we war as much as possible, except on holiday weeks like christmas or halloween or thanksgiving, but they also dont care if you have all heroes or not for regular clan wars, we dont do regular wars to win, we do it for practice and for loot, however you will have to have all heroes up for cwl so i have had to drop about 2000 gems on books because of bad time management on my end
I think that supercell should have to use us the heroes in wars even if they are on upgrade but not in the casual attack ..
how about joining farm war aliance clans?
@ lightningdragon666
I totally agree SuperCell should just allow use of them during war. They already allow buildings that are building to be active during war like defenses.
I am th13 almost maxed and i just do both.😅 i am 13 in war so i just 2 star number 1/2 what i am consistently doing against th16s so my clan doesnt care to much.
I dunno something about having squishy ass hero’s and supplementing that with placebo potions doesn’t sit right with me
Dude the single thing that you're forgetting is that no decent clan is going to take in th14s with level 15-20 heros.
Been there still am struggling, my heros are 58-59-40-30 yet am facing hardship just to even land in masters 3 clans
I just keep 1 hero down because my job in the clan is just to get 1 or 2 stars on the highest th with sneaky goblins and the higher th's attack my bases
Me watching video knowing I am in a FWA clan be like : nice chunk😂
I am top1 in my clan and have been upgrading 2 heroes at once me and the top 2,top 3 is th14 and we won some wars.now as the #1 of my clan I stopped upgrading so i can get 3* on nb 1 and 2 so we don't lose wars anymore.i am at th 15 and my queen is already maxed so from after the cwl and on i will only be upgrading 1 hero at a time and another one whenever i get a book
im currently at th12 a bit rushed upgrading defenses and im thinking about joining war should i join war or rush to th 14 and catch up on upgrades then?
I think simply we should be able to use heroes in war but not home village while upgrading
Tips and tricks for townhall14
Plz make a new video on strategic rushing since so many things has changed now
They should let us use heros while they are upgrading but with some disadvantages eg slow healing time or something to even it out
If that makes sense
So you would rather invest on hero potions than research potions? Came back as a th8 this Sept and now a TH 14 with max queen and unicorn. Kinda feels bad
Wth ur taking about. The actual fun of the game is in "attacking" . U can't get best attacking experience with "low level hero" . I prefer not to upgrade my heroes on "CWL times" . Other type i always put 2 builders for hero.
I upgrade grand wardens with book/hammer .
I only make my heros awake up till they are max . Until that i keep my heroes upgraded.
Don't all hero on same time. One/two hero on same time according to th/war
It should be like legends when a defense or hero is down they are active on defense
So when you need it you won't have the heros strong enough if you wait until 14..
Most awaited video ❤
We still win even though our heroes are in the upgrade. I 3starred a th14 without my champion as a th13.
Tbh im going to upgrade my hero to previous th max because the hero equipment doesnt upgrade every 5 level nor the equipment is percentage base except the rage vial
Hi Bd
I saw you do a lot of surveys
I wanted to ask you if you can do one to ask if the clash players
would they like to have 2/3 slots in addition to do challenges?
Thank you
Wars are chill we can upgrade heroes
what should i do if i have lv 85 heroes?
Players can also use dark elixir to boost Super Troops
Bro i already have 35 king 49 queen 33 warden so i just cannot up them manually even with builder portion trick although i have level 1 rc so still i can get to her at least
So bro should i stop considering all of them except rc untill she gets to level 5+ at least or should i stop for a couple of wars to get through those levels
Man this stuff is gold
Quick suggestion- Use less overrated music. Ik its no copyright but its kinda annoying in my opinion. Thanks!!
sometimes I just use a heroes-less war strategies and aim for 2 stars minimum in CW. and just skip CWL
or just have some patience and upgrade every hero at the same timr for minimum disruption
Is it just me or do others think that we should get a quick access slot for the pet house and blacksmith like the builders and lab?
And also is it just me or do others wish we had a permanent 2nd research and pet slot?
why not make the heroes available on wars like defenses even while upgrading? if the devs still wants some downside then they can do stuff like sleeping/upgrading heroes cannot be boosted by hero potion something like that. but not totally disabled like what it was more than a decade ago up to now. hope the devs consider this especially war is one of the main source of ores.
its the sense of the game to make clans clash. always go to war. not to wait on the sideline baby sitting your sleeping heroes.
i’m still gonna keep my heroes maxed cuz that’s all i know 😭
This would be way easyer if supercell just made it so that we can use them but thay regenerate at a lower rate just saying
You’re the goat 🐐
Its not usable when your heros gets 4days or more upgrade time ,we must play war without heros or skip war..
Best thing to do is upgrade heros as much as u can and get into a clan where you can play war without heros..
Supercell should let us use heros in cwl even if heros on upgrade.allowing on upgrade heros on normal war will be too much freedom
i just upgraded to th11 and im thinking about trying to strategically rush to at least th13. do you have any tips?
So get to th15 first right? Because you said 14 was a key level for value but 15 seems to be the best now?
Yo bro I have been watching you for more than a year and I am a th 11 player (in traditional way of playing) so basically I have realized that it will take a lot of time to reach th16 and to enjoy the added stuffs to game so please make a guide video for me to how can I reach th16 fast and my bade,heroes, etc stay powerfull as I am a regular war player
And including that I have already decided that no matter what th level I am I will only upgrade my wall to lvl 12 and after my base is fully maxed according to th16 then I am going to start upgradeibg my walls becos yk walls take a lot of time and there are many troops/spells/siege machines which break our wall,jump over our walls etc so like these give me some tips for my journey to th16 as fast as possible and please. Make sure by base stays strong according to each th level as I play wars
-thanks
Yo bro I have been watching you for more than a year and I am a th 11 player (in traditional way of playing) so basically I have realized that it will take a lot of time to reach th16 and to enjoy the added stuffs to game so please make a guide video for me to how can I reach th16 fast and my bade,heroes, etc stay powerfull as I am a regular war player
And including that I have already decided that no matter what th level I am I will only upgrade my wall to lvl 12 and after my base is fully maxed according to th16 then I am going to start upgradeibg my walls becos yk walls take a lot of time and there are many troops/spells/siege machines which break our wall,jump over our walls etc so like these give me some tips for my journey to th16 as fast as possible and please. Make sure by base stays strong according to each th level as I play wars
-thanksYo bro I have been watching you for more than a year and I am a th 11 player (in traditional way of playing) so basically I have realized that it will take a lot of time to reach th16 and to enjoy the added stuffs to game so please make a guide video for me to how can I reach th16 fast and my bade,heroes, etc stay powerfull as I am a regular war player
And including that I have already decided that no matter what th level I am I will only upgrade my wall to lvl 12 and after my base is fully maxed according to th16 then I am going to start upgradeibg my walls becos yk walls take a lot of time and there are many troops/spells/siege machines which break our wall,jump over our walls etc so like these give me some tips for my journey to th16 as fast as possible and please. Make sure by base stays strong according to each th level as I play wars
-thanks