During our ITR Live show with Jim Cornette, we asked him about his role in the creation of the Kane character. Corny goes into great detail about the original idea, how it evolved and what lead to Kane's debut during the Hell In A Cell between Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
Creation doesn't come out of a vacuum, every single thing you've ever listened to, watched, or read, was influenced by something else, when people complain about someone stealing something it's more often than not just sour grapes that other person was better at something than they were. All creative ideas are about taking influences and molding them into something new.
@@Back_Shots_Whisperer How? lol Jericho's debut was great, but Kane's was next level phenomenal! The Taker/HBK match hell in a cell match, the crazy backstory, Bearer's involvement & then the amazing feud it produced. It's probably the best debut in WWF/E history.
@@tmac731 Again, How? lol Besides him being the Undertaker & a Legend among legends, there was nothing that great about his debut. Vince didn't really go all out for the dead man in 90.
Me too i still remember seeing kane in early 1998 and I was hooked on WWF from 1998 til about 2003 then got in high school and only cared about girls lol
My first memory of when I started watching wrestling was when kane was with tori and had the feud with x pac Anything before that I have no memory of watching wrestling
As a kid around this time kane was the coolest thing ever the story,the effects,the costume,the fact that he was bigger than taker all made it enthralling
Hate to rain on your parade and shit on your childhood little Timmy but Kane was never Taller then Taker he might have been bigger as a wider but he was never taller than Undertaker that whole gimmick of him being the younger and bigger brother he had to wear lifts in his boots the whole time to be taller than Taker if you go back and look you can always see that he's always wearing some type of lifts in the sole of his boots Taker never wore any type of enhancement to make him taller that's something they ain't going to tell you bout because it would Ruin the Whole Gimmick lol
@@patrickdennler1598 Glen Jacobs was 7.0 in his prime. Mark Calaway was 6.10 in his prime. Both have shrunk due to age and injury/surgery but it seems he's correct.
Bruh, are we just gonna ignore the fact that Corny created the HiAC match? Where some of the greatest events in wrestling ever took place? What a fucking legend.
Dude , maybe _YOU_ are the only one who ignores that fact but some us have known that Corny came up with that match LONG AGO. Quit trying to make it seem like you’re a spokesman here bro, sit your ass down.
Undertaker winning the belt actually makes it more complicated. Say if Taker wins where do you go from there. Taking the belt off taker while looking credible would be a bigger headache. Also problem is this Taker was still not Biker taker and could not move like he was able to due to character reasons. So though you have a credible champion you can't have five star matches always because apart from Bret and Shawn there's not much better workers at top of the card at this point. Also making Shawn and Bret losing clean to Taker would reduce their credibility. There's a lot to think about when you put the belt on Taker.
To be fair, that match had a perfect ending with Michaels winning. It's a horror show in October, and Taker is like a movie slasher. He's essentially slowly and methodically murdering Michaels. We hate Michaels and think he deserves it at first, but then as we get near the end we start sympathizing with him. Sure, he's an asshole, but the poor guy's getting ripped to shreads. By the end of the match he is barely conscious. And right when the slasher is going for the kill, BAM. Like a lot of great horror movies, there's a twist at the end. The hunter becomes prey. Shawn Michaels was paying for his sins, but now it's time for Taker to confront his demons. This cold emotionless killer who basically didn't emote throughout the match, now he has a look of shock and horror in his face. It's the perfect finish for this match IMO.
@@akapbhan Shawn wasn't the champion at Hell in a Cell Bret still was this was before Survivor Series, in fact Bret had beat Taker for the belt at Summerslam 1997 because of Shawn accidentally hitting Taker with a chair. It's only because Vince wanted Shawn and Bret so badly since Wrestlemania 12.
Really was almost a year build Paul bearer was saying taker had a secret after he won the title at mania and it was Kane greatest build to a match ever
I totally forgot about the whole Kane coming to random matches and chokeslamming everyone. Kane's initial run right before Wrestlemania 14 was epic. Nobody fucked with Kane lol.
Glen jacobs pretty much owes his entire life to undertaker. Characters come and go. But when your character is "related " to undertaker. You got a job for life. If not for the kane character, glen would have fazed out in the independent scene.
Nah if glen had been horrible the Kane character would have lasted 2 months and been over with. Undertaker being involved helped but really it was all glen.
Bruh I swear. Before Kane was even invented, I sent in a drawing to PWI magazine to participate in their create-a-character section, and the drawing looked like old school Kane, and his name was…Kane. Til’ this day I’ve always thought they somehow got the idea off my character submission.
Few things have been more lit in the history of wrestling than the earliest days of Kane matching off with his long lost brother, The Undertaker. Epic!
There was one of the promos after Kane debuted where they discussed Kane getting burned and the family as well scared the fuck outta me. I bought into it and was scared to leave to walk somewhere that day, and it was still light out. That's how good they were back in the day before they took things "more seriously" and scripted the hell out of everything.
Actually, vignets with the "looking through Kane's mask at pictures of Undertaker" would have been cool to do, but AFTER he'd debut'd at Hell in a Cell.
@ShadowAngel the reason it wouldn't work before the debut is because part of the story was Undertaker not believing Paul Bearer when he said Kane was alive. It would have worked after the debut as a way of showing how long and how obsessed he was with getting "revenge" on the Undertaker.
@ShadowAngel don't be so condescending. Just because people have different views from you, it doesn't mean they are thinking "1 dimensionally" and it doesn't mean their view isn't any less valid than yours. The fact that all we had was Paul saying he was alive made it a more intriguing angle and the fact we had no evidence to prove it, made the debut better, imo.
Jim, the Hell in a Cell wasn't a title match. 1) The European title wasn't on the line 2) It was for the #1 contender spot for Bret's World title. That's how Michaels became the #1 contender and wrestled the Screwjob match.
One day I want to attend a Comic Con type thing where Bruce Prichard, Paul Heyman and Jim Cornette are in the same room talking and telling stories for hours. Would be the greatest thing ever.
As glad as I am with how long the streak went on, Kane at wm 14 had all the momentum in the world to win but he lost sadly and ita happened alot in kane's career to win the big one
That was the most exciting time to be a wrestling fan. Tuning in every Monday night, not knowing when Kane was going to strike. I vividly remember the 6 man midget match because my best friend and I were talking on the phone as it happened, and I remember King going apeshit cause he thought Kane was going to smear a bunch of little dudes haha. That original run with Kane from 97 through 98 was the best. And then they castrated him and he never recovered.
@OJ McClanahan While that's true, Jim Cornette was referencing the WWE Title as he's told this story as well on his podcast and it had to be pointed out to him that Bret Hart was actually the champ at the time
Kane shouldve been the one to beat the Streak and it didnt necessarily had to happen at wm 14. Kane had nothing to for wm 30 so he couldve challenged taker but he was with the authority so it wouldnt looks so good.
@OJ McClanahan because from what I know kenny and ITR are suuuuuper PC and never wanna offend anyone while jim doesn't shy away from saying controversial stuff
Jim has a lot of respect for Kenny, he often mentions him on his podcast and he’s one of the best storytellers around so be daft not to do shows with him...
Wow, never knew Cornette was the creator of hell in a cell, and I verified it by looking it up so he’s not lying. He should get royalties every time they have that PPV.
Jim Cornette is the most creative mind in the business. He gets it. He knows how to sell something to people and make it realistic. Its actually a travesty that he isn't head of WWE creative and useless people like Kevin Dunne keep their jobs.
Kane was awesome.Especially in his earlier years.Putting Paul Bearer with him just made it even better.That dude was legit scary.He had the size and man when that pyro hit and he came walking out you knew someone was about to get beat down.The idea of him wearing the cape was horrible though.Im glad they noticed the cape wasnt gonna work,lol.
It hurt when I found out wrestling was fake and scripted. But still respect the athleticism and commitment of the actors/wrestlers. I also enjoyed wrestling spin offs like jerry springer show
A lot of people say Kane’s character died in different years.. but for me he slowly started going down hill after his second loss to taker (inferno match) for me Kane should have took the win at either mania or the inferno match, soon as he lost both those he just became a mid card player who had the odd brief moment at the top. They could have got much more out of the masked 97 Kane
The whole Chyna , X PAC , Tori , Corporation stuff is when the downfall slowly started. At least Kane destroyed taker after he loss at WM & at unforgiven all he did was slip & got caught on fire.
The Vicious Precision it’s not so much the fact he lost - it’s that he never won, if Kane had dominated and won the inferno match I think that would have done a lot more for his character at that point - but I hear what you’re saying. The tori x pac triangle/feud was shit, they tried normalising a Kane character with feelings etc - poor move
J 0511 Kane just like Mankind we’re main eventers but treated like shit as if they were jobbers. It’s as if everybody bullied them or pushed them around until they lashed out & started whooping ass lol
@@MASTER3371 all that stuff you mentioned was a consequence of him losing to the undertaker twice. What else can you do with him? He can't go to the main event spot because he lost his feud so they out him in the midcard
“The Unabomber was hot at that time.” Yes, he was practically blowing up. The Louisville Slugger means well but phrasing. For the love of God, phrasing.
Swear down Cornette and Russo cannot do anything without mentioning each other. They deffo had drunk bum fun back in the day and now can't get over it🤣
Cornette did get one detail wrong: the HBK-Taker HIAC wasn’t for the title, it was a #1 contenders match to decide who would challenge Bret for the title at Survivor Series. He’s probably getting it mixed up with the HBK-Taker casket match at the ‘98 Rumble (the one where Kane nailed Taker into the casket and then set it on fire), which was for the title and was the actual blowoff to their feud.
I haven't watched in years but have seen clips but he is not being wasted. They are trying to recreate the undertaker in a different way which can't be done.
If I remember right in the beginning Kane could not even talk without holding a electronic voice box to his throat.I think he was suppose to have some kind of damage to his vocal chords...
Right. I could be wrong but I believe it was a Number 1 contender's match. It was Oct '97 so Bret was still champ and HBK winning is what infamously led to Survivor Series '97.
One major mistake with Cornette's narration- Shawn was not the champion at the time. The WWE champion was Bret Hart. Shawn was the European Champ. And the HIAC was not for any title.
imagine if they put cornette and heyman as creatives today for WWE... we'd have great characters and stories instead of watching over-recycled edge vs orton nonsense... i wanna see talents like AJ and Nakamura and Samoa Joe and Finn Balor and Cesaro get their rightful push their talents deserve... heck even the womens division would become more interesting than bailey and sasha just walloping belts for no reason and deadening the value of the women titles... asuka needs to used properly... without being cliche she could be the ricky steamboat of womens wrestling
During our ITR Live show with Jim Cornette, we asked him about his role in the creation of the Kane character. Corny goes into great detail about the original idea, how it evolved and what lead to Kane's debut during the Hell In A Cell between Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!
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Is there anywhere to buy the full videoes og the entire show?
That Kane debut was one of the best in company history. Jericho's was great to.
I have to say the y2j was good. I just didn’t like Jericho so it was a little underwhelming
I was lucky enough to be there, St.Louis,Mo October of 97. I’ll never forget it lol.
THE BEST. Done
Couldn't agree more
Shock master was the best
"If you steal from one person it's plagiarism, if you steal from many it's research"
BRILLIANT
Have you never heard that expression before?
Its similar to "bad writers steal, good writers borrow but great writers pay homage"
@@kaigreen5641 funny how I've heard "Bad artists, Great artists steal"
If you pay someone so you can plagiarize them, it’s outsourcing.
@El Comedy Rogue *Led Zeppelin has entered the chat*
Creation doesn't come out of a vacuum, every single thing you've ever listened to, watched, or read, was influenced by something else, when people complain about someone stealing something it's more often than not just sour grapes that other person was better at something than they were. All creative ideas are about taking influences and molding them into something new.
Like him or hate him, the man can tell a f’n story.
I love how he always manages to find a way to take a shot at Russo.
I don't think its possible for him to talk wrestling for more than 10 minutes without finding a way to bury Russo again.
@@rubbishopinions6468 😂😂right
Take a shot every time he takes a shot at the man, and You will be feeling happy.
@@gregd806 or end up with alcohol poisoning 🤣
Because he’s fuckin obsessed with Russo. It’s insane
Kane will always have the greatest debut ever!
And raw debut the next night
I got him and Jericho neck to neck
Undertaker debut
@@Back_Shots_Whisperer How? lol Jericho's debut was great, but Kane's was next level phenomenal! The Taker/HBK match hell in a cell match, the crazy backstory, Bearer's involvement & then the amazing feud it produced. It's probably the best debut in WWF/E history.
@@tmac731 Again, How? lol Besides him being the Undertaker & a Legend among legends, there was nothing that great about his debut. Vince didn't really go all out for the dead man in 90.
That Kane Debut is one of my earliest memories of watching Wrestling as a kid.
Same, Kane is first memory of wrestling I have.
@@frogpapi4636 Yep, me too
How old are you?
Me too i still remember seeing kane in early 1998 and I was hooked on WWF from 1998 til about 2003 then got in high school and only cared about girls lol
My first memory of when I started watching wrestling was when kane was with tori and had the feud with x pac
Anything before that
I have no memory of watching wrestling
As a kid around this time kane was the coolest thing ever the story,the effects,the costume,the fact that he was bigger than taker all made it enthralling
I hear that, i used to rewind kanes entrance on vhs every monday like 6 times hahaha end up chewing the tape
Hate to rain on your parade and shit on your childhood little Timmy but Kane was never Taller then Taker he might have been bigger as a wider but he was never taller than Undertaker that whole gimmick of him being the younger and bigger brother he had to wear lifts in his boots the whole time to be taller than Taker if you go back and look you can always see that he's always wearing some type of lifts in the sole of his boots Taker never wore any type of enhancement to make him taller that's something they ain't going to tell you bout because it would Ruin the Whole Gimmick lol
@@patrickdennler1598 Glen Jacobs was 7.0 in his prime. Mark Calaway was 6.10 in his prime. Both have shrunk due to age and injury/surgery but it seems he's correct.
@@patrickdennler1598 That's actually not true, Taker did wear lifts as well and Glenn Jacobs is taller than Undertaker in real life.
Bruh, are we just gonna ignore the fact that Corny created the HiAC match? Where some of the greatest events in wrestling ever took place? What a fucking legend.
Dude , maybe _YOU_ are the only one who ignores that fact but some us have known that Corny came up with that match LONG AGO. Quit trying to make it seem like you’re a spokesman here bro, sit your ass down.
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“Couldn’t whip cream with an outboard motor” Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
I came back specifically to find that line again. I'm filing that one away for sure lol.
I remember when Kane would come out and it didn't matter who set it was, he always was ready to kick ass!!
Yup he was on his OWN Side most of the time
That was a shoot! Not a work! Fucking marks!
Cornette spins a hell of a yarn. I could listen to his stories for hours.
“and Kane would just chokeslam every-fucking-body” made me laugh 🤣🤣
Jim cornette made me laugh when he said limp dick pussy😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Shawn Michaels wins. So we get out of that fn deal. Shawn Michaels always gotta win. Or else wise he wount show up" - Jim Cornette
*Undertaker tapes hands
Undertaker winning the belt actually makes it more complicated. Say if Taker wins where do you go from there. Taking the belt off taker while looking credible would be a bigger headache. Also problem is this Taker was still not Biker taker and could not move like he was able to due to character reasons. So though you have a credible champion you can't have five star matches always because apart from Bret and Shawn there's not much better workers at top of the card at this point. Also making Shawn and Bret losing clean to Taker would reduce their credibility. There's a lot to think about when you put the belt on Taker.
Shawns 2nd wwe run: LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE Title matches
To be fair, that match had a perfect ending with Michaels winning. It's a horror show in October, and Taker is like a movie slasher. He's essentially slowly and methodically murdering Michaels. We hate Michaels and think he deserves it at first, but then as we get near the end we start sympathizing with him. Sure, he's an asshole, but the poor guy's getting ripped to shreads. By the end of the match he is barely conscious. And right when the slasher is going for the kill, BAM. Like a lot of great horror movies, there's a twist at the end. The hunter becomes prey. Shawn Michaels was paying for his sins, but now it's time for Taker to confront his demons. This cold emotionless killer who basically didn't emote throughout the match, now he has a look of shock and horror in his face. It's the perfect finish for this match IMO.
@@akapbhan Shawn wasn't the champion at Hell in a Cell Bret still was this was before Survivor Series, in fact Bret had beat Taker for the belt at Summerslam 1997 because of Shawn accidentally hitting Taker with a chair. It's only because Vince wanted Shawn and Bret so badly since Wrestlemania 12.
6 month build to the payoff with great storytelling. Now its a 4 week build with poor storyline and the wrestlers phoning it in with wwe.
facts
Damn hahahahaha savage Lmao
Legit, this is exactly what it is.
You mean the 11th hour before every show.
Really was almost a year build Paul bearer was saying taker had a secret after he won the title at mania and it was Kane greatest build to a match ever
I totally forgot about the whole Kane coming to random matches and chokeslamming everyone. Kane's initial run right before Wrestlemania 14 was epic. Nobody fucked with Kane lol.
"That's got to be Kane" most memorial line from the announcers
Glen jacobs pretty much owes his entire life to undertaker. Characters come and go. But when your character is "related " to undertaker. You got a job for life. If not for the kane character, glen would have fazed out in the independent scene.
Nah if glen had been horrible the Kane character would have lasted 2 months and been over with. Undertaker being involved helped but really it was all glen.
Bruh I swear. Before Kane was even invented, I sent in a drawing to PWI magazine to participate in their create-a-character section, and the drawing looked like old school Kane, and his name was…Kane. Til’ this day I’ve always thought they somehow got the idea off my character submission.
Damn, that would be neat lol
Weed is good, yeah
@@AxeCheeks Hah, good one.
If only Cain(Kane) wasn’t already the undertaker’s name that might be true
They brought in Kane brilliantly, I became a fan immediately
Damn Jim’s idea for Kane sounded amazing
"the Unabomber was hot at that time so I named him Unabomb"
Few things have been more lit in the history of wrestling than the earliest days of Kane matching off with his long lost brother, The Undertaker. Epic!
best debut of all time. Great storytelling and he looked like a true badass
There was one of the promos after Kane debuted where they discussed Kane getting burned and the family as well scared the fuck outta me. I bought into it and was scared to leave to walk somewhere that day, and it was still light out. That's how good they were back in the day before they took things "more seriously" and scripted the hell out of everything.
One of the greatest minds in the history of the business...
😂 what he said about Shawn "Couldn't whip cream with outboard motor!" Wow!!!
SWEAR TO GOD...the way Cornette described HBK at the time of the hell in a cell encounter made me fall out of my chair.
Actually, vignets with the "looking through Kane's mask at pictures of Undertaker" would have been cool to do, but AFTER he'd debut'd at Hell in a Cell.
@ShadowAngel the reason it wouldn't work before the debut is because part of the story was Undertaker not believing Paul Bearer when he said Kane was alive. It would have worked after the debut as a way of showing how long and how obsessed he was with getting "revenge" on the Undertaker.
@ShadowAngel don't be so condescending. Just because people have different views from you, it doesn't mean they are thinking "1 dimensionally" and it doesn't mean their view isn't any less valid than yours. The fact that all we had was Paul saying he was alive made it a more intriguing angle and the fact we had no evidence to prove it, made the debut better, imo.
I love how much contempt you can hear in Jim's voice everytime he even has to reference Vince Russo.
Jim, the Hell in a Cell wasn't a title match.
1) The European title wasn't on the line
2) It was for the #1 contender spot for Bret's World title. That's how Michaels became the #1 contender and wrestled the Screwjob match.
So this is the man responsible for creating my favorite wrestler of all time.
One day I want to attend a Comic Con type thing where Bruce Prichard, Paul Heyman and Jim Cornette are in the same room talking and telling stories for hours. Would be the greatest thing ever.
As glad as I am with how long the streak went on, Kane at wm 14 had all the momentum in the world to win but he lost sadly and ita happened alot in kane's career to win the big one
Kane had one of the best debuts ever!
yes along with John Cena's
This would be perfect for Kane's doc series like Taker ......w/ Jim Cornette ....
That was the most exciting time to be a wrestling fan. Tuning in every Monday night, not knowing when Kane was going to strike. I vividly remember the 6 man midget match because my best friend and I were talking on the phone as it happened, and I remember King going apeshit cause he thought Kane was going to smear a bunch of little dudes haha. That original run with Kane from 97 through 98 was the best. And then they castrated him and he never recovered.
Jim cornette can't talk about anything without finding a way to criticise Vince Russo 😆
That’s not true at all!
" So I was at the store buying some cheese and I thought to my self...fuck this cheese, it reminds me of Russo"
I love listen to jim cornette podcast its entertaining lmao
I was there in the 4th row when Kain made his debut. I’ll never forget the heat wave that went over me when the ring post pyrotechnics went off.
Jim is a national treasure.
Was Oly vaping when this was filmed? ;)
This was before his time haha
Just want to mention that HBK did not have the title in the Hell in a Cell match, Bret Hart did. The Hell in a Cell match was a #1 contenders match.
@OJ McClanahan While that's true, Jim Cornette was referencing the WWE Title as he's told this story as well on his podcast and it had to be pointed out to him that Bret Hart was actually the champ at the time
They should've used Jim's idea with Kane but I still love his masked attire God I wish he kept it
2:39 Kane is not *evil* he has a lot of trauma!!!! he just wanted love and safety!!!!! that's my silliest babygirl!!!!!!!!!!!
Kane shouldve been the one to beat the Streak and it didnt necessarily had to happen at wm 14. Kane had nothing to for wm 30 so he couldve challenged taker but he was with the authority so it wouldnt looks so good.
I think Sting should have been. That way he could claim nobody In WWF/WWE bested the streak. As well as many other perks
Bruce prichard came up with the kane or so he said in his podcast
didn't expect to see jim on this channel^^
@OJ McClanahan because from what I know kenny and ITR are suuuuuper PC and never wanna offend anyone while jim doesn't shy away from saying controversial stuff
Jim has a lot of respect for Kenny, he often mentions him on his podcast and he’s one of the best storytellers around so be daft not to do shows with him...
Kane destroyed everybody. I hate the fact they had him at basically jobber status later in his career
Who remembers being a kid im the 90s and searching all over the internet looking for pics of Kane without his mask
Wow, never knew Cornette was the creator of hell in a cell, and I verified it by looking it up so he’s not lying. He should get royalties every time they have that PPV.
Attitude Era Is Legend Era in the WWE EVER!
5:25 "That gets Michaels out to work with other people" he just dusts off the Montreal Screwjob just like that hahaha
Thank you Jim Cornette
Great story and content. But I love how he's invited for an interview and basically makes it about himself.
If it wasn't for Corny creating Kane and doing it so well..we wouldn't of got Danhausen
well when you put it like that....:/
Oh surprised that this channel uploaded something with Jim Cornette in the title due to all the controversy
Lol
What controversy? He explained everything, all the bullshit is settled.
Jim Cornette is the most creative mind in the business. He gets it. He knows how to sell something to people and make it realistic. Its actually a travesty that he isn't head of WWE creative and useless people like Kevin Dunne keep their jobs.
Kane was awesome.Especially in his earlier years.Putting Paul Bearer with him just made it even better.That dude was legit scary.He had the size and man when that pyro hit and he came walking out you knew someone was about to get beat down.The idea of him wearing the cape was horrible though.Im glad they noticed the cape wasnt gonna work,lol.
It hurt when I found out wrestling was fake and scripted. But still respect the athleticism and commitment of the actors/wrestlers. I also enjoyed wrestling spin offs like jerry springer show
Kane in a Master/Blaster role would have been cool.
1:54 Mark loved Glenn from the first match they had😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔
While I don't much care for a lot of Cornette's thoughts on the current wrestling product, he has always been a great storyteller.
Vince Russo was the leading figure in creating the Mr. McMahon character from how I understand it. Expert move!
Plz tell in which episode ,I can listen this in Spotify?
A lot of people say Kane’s character died in different years.. but for me he slowly started going down hill after his second loss to taker (inferno match) for me Kane should have took the win at either mania or the inferno match, soon as he lost both those he just became a mid card player who had the odd brief moment at the top. They could have got much more out of the masked 97 Kane
The whole Chyna , X PAC , Tori , Corporation stuff is when the downfall slowly started. At least Kane destroyed taker after he loss at WM & at unforgiven all he did was slip & got caught on fire.
The Vicious Precision it’s not so much the fact he lost - it’s that he never won, if Kane had dominated and won the inferno match I think that would have done a lot more for his character at that point - but I hear what you’re saying. The tori x pac triangle/feud was shit, they tried normalising a Kane character with feelings etc - poor move
@@MASTER3371 actually he got hit with a chair shot and fell into the fire.
J 0511 Kane just like Mankind we’re main eventers but treated like shit as if they were jobbers. It’s as if everybody bullied them or pushed them around until they lashed out & started whooping ass lol
@@MASTER3371 all that stuff you mentioned was a consequence of him losing to the undertaker twice. What else can you do with him? He can't go to the main event spot because he lost his feud so they out him in the midcard
Cornette's stories, like him or hate him, are absolute fucking platinum.
Kane's top moment was when he said, "Suuuuuck it!"
I love listening to his stories. These are the guys i grew up watching and to hear the stories is awesome.
Ironically the whole pictures on the wall they used for undertaker after the triple h wrestlemania and couldn't leave under his own power
Jim Cornette sitting on a stage telling a Jim Cornette story wearing a Jim Cornette shirt is peak mood.
“The Unabomber was hot at that time.” Yes, he was practically blowing up. The Louisville Slugger means well but phrasing. For the love of God, phrasing.
Corny is the Goat
Thank you very much for Kane Jim cornette!
Swear down Cornette and Russo cannot do anything without mentioning each other.
They deffo had drunk bum fun back in the day and now can't get over it🤣
Nah they just cut each others throats and cost each other careers, and piles of cash, so yea lot of hate there!
Cornette did get one detail wrong: the HBK-Taker HIAC wasn’t for the title, it was a #1 contenders match to decide who would challenge Bret for the title at Survivor Series. He’s probably getting it mixed up with the HBK-Taker casket match at the ‘98 Rumble (the one where Kane nailed Taker into the casket and then set it on fire), which was for the title and was the actual blowoff to their feud.
I'm a bit confused about what he was saying about Michaels not dropping the title. He only had the European title at the time.
Great debut. Lights go out music hits. Sounds like the fiend. Who they are wasting
I haven't watched in years but have seen clips but he is not being wasted. They are trying to recreate the undertaker in a different way which can't be done.
Jim’s an incredible story teller
That Hell in a Cell wasn’t for the title Bret was the champion
If I remember right in the beginning Kane could not even talk without holding a electronic voice box to his throat.I think he was suppose to have some kind of damage to his vocal chords...
*Not sure if Jim knows this or not but he never talks about how the mask came to be or who it came from? Or who came up with the mask design?*
The creative in this era truly was genius
This was non title match.. it's what made everyone think taker was going to win
Right. I could be wrong but I believe it was a Number 1 contender's match. It was Oct '97 so Bret was still champ and HBK winning is what infamously led to Survivor Series '97.
@@Toast960 You are correct. The winner got to face Bret for the WWF title at Survivor Series and we all know what happened there.
Am I the only one that loved it when Jim Cornette was the General manager of TNA/ impact wrestling
One major mistake with Cornette's narration- Shawn was not the champion at the time. The WWE champion was Bret Hart. Shawn was the European Champ. And the HIAC was not for any title.
Better then fake diesel!🤦🏼♂️😂
And Isaac Yankeem DDS.
I was hyped as fuck when I seen kane come out for the first time. Huge Taker fan but I cant lie...I jumped ship real quick and became a Kane fan lol.
What if Kane was still the dentist who was burned after a dentist accident
Those Halloween like videos would've been fucking sick!
Still the best of best.kanes story.i still watch the old one.
What's with the PQ?
Finally we can address this
I love Cornette and listening to his storys.
It's not a Cornette shoot with out going after Russo
Best debut for wwf
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Time is convoluted in Lordran
It says 1080p lol what
Glen Jacobs should have gone into the hall of fame as the fake diesel
Isaac Yankem first. Glen will be the first 3 time HOFer.
imagine if they put cornette and heyman as creatives today for WWE... we'd have great characters and stories instead of watching over-recycled edge vs orton nonsense... i wanna see talents like AJ and Nakamura and Samoa Joe and Finn Balor and Cesaro get their rightful push their talents deserve... heck even the womens division would become more interesting than bailey and sasha just walloping belts for no reason and deadening the value of the women titles... asuka needs to used properly... without being cliche she could be the ricky steamboat of womens wrestling