Out of curiosity. What rosin was used for each bow? I remember many years ago borrowing violin rosin in when I dropped (and broke) mine. It was completely useless. On the other extreme, I have one bow in which I often use double bass rosin, which is far gripier than any cello one I've tried and works really well for percussive effects.
Good question! All of these bows were new, without rosin. I used a cello rosin (Pirastro) - a lot of it to bring these bows to a workable condition. I would need to clean this cello's strings if I used a double bass rosin. What is your favorite cello rosin?
I rotate constantly between pirastro, hidersine and Echtes Johann Strauss Kolophon. I find it that each time I change I feel a renewed grip and experience which after a week or two falls into a generic feel which I find not as responsive. I am still trying to find the one and ocassionally try new things but haven't found something to stick to. On the other hand, I only have a few entry level student bows and have never been able to even try a good one. I'm not surrounded by expert cellists that would be open to let me try their expensive bows and have tried a few in music shops but then these are with shop instruments and not my own so everything is different. Love your videos, keep up the great work!
which rosin is needed information here✨Thank you so much for detailing this here🎻 I still wanna try a longer bow than the default length😅 Perhaps this is because someday I wish to add an F1, 5th string to my cello, over much of my piano repertoire favorites being unavailable in cello! cheers
Thank you for this video! I find it interesting. I thought that the main difference among those bows was its length, now I have learnt that is also their weight. I have heard an seen many cellists who make experimental music to use different bows, even two bows at the same time, in different directions, it is a very curious phenomenon. And in some contemporary orchestal pieces I' ve seen percussionists to use the double bass bow to slide it over the border of plates, it makes a very nice kind of "airy" sound. My regards!
Yes, I remember a performance of a cellist from Netherlands. She performed several contemporary pieces using two bows. It was interesting technique, but I personally was not impressed or convinced that it was done with musical interest in mind. Percussionists are famous for experimenting with unusual tools- quite a fascinating experience. Thank you for sharing. It is always great to hear from you!
This was a really good idea to try. As a listener, I could hear that with the two lighter bows the sound never got to fully develop, never got round and warm. On the opposite side, the bass bows were both too heavy, the sound starts to come out really quick and tend to sound like a cello, but is being held back by the weight of the bow. My conclusion is simple, those who invented the bows for all different string instruments were geniuses. I always thought that a double bass bow could be used to improve the projection of the cello sound. YOU PROVED ME WRONG!!! 😂 😂
@Cellopedia no , I just got a cello to start playing. I used to play bass. I got the old cello, I think it is from 1800 or older it has mechanical pegs I have never seen on cello. What u think?
@@nicolasrahnama6333 usually these pegs have to be replaced. This cello might have some other issues. I hope you have an opportunity to show it to an experienced luthier.
@@Cellopedia LOL 🤣I do not have my English good enough to bit the bet but I think you should compare sound of each bow with proper cello bow. And then wooden one with carbon. And then carbon cello with wooden an so on 🤣🤣🤣
Have you ever had to use a wrong bow?
Sure. bald and crooked 😄 BTW. You did not compare baroque bow with contemporary 🤓
I am just starting my cello experiments ;)
Never seen such an experiment...thanks Sir
I have never done it before and most likely never will 😅
This is great! I’ve always been curious about this topic. Thanks for making this video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Now we can safely "destroy" our cellos :)))
Out of curiosity. What rosin was used for each bow?
I remember many years ago borrowing violin rosin in when I dropped (and broke) mine. It was completely useless. On the other extreme, I have one bow in which I often use double bass rosin, which is far gripier than any cello one I've tried and works really well for percussive effects.
Good question! All of these bows were new, without rosin. I used a cello rosin (Pirastro) - a lot of it to bring these bows to a workable condition. I would need to clean this cello's strings if I used a double bass rosin. What is your favorite cello rosin?
I rotate constantly between pirastro, hidersine and Echtes Johann Strauss Kolophon. I find it that each time I change I feel a renewed grip and experience which after a week or two falls into a generic feel which I find not as responsive. I am still trying to find the one and ocassionally try new things but haven't found something to stick to. On the other hand, I only have a few entry level student bows and have never been able to even try a good one. I'm not surrounded by expert cellists that would be open to let me try their expensive bows and have tried a few in music shops but then these are with shop instruments and not my own so everything is different.
Love your videos, keep up the great work!
which rosin is needed information here✨Thank you so much for detailing this here🎻
I still wanna try a longer
bow than the default length😅 Perhaps this is because someday I wish to add an F1, 5th string to my cello, over much of my piano repertoire favorites being unavailable in cello! cheers
Thank you for this video! I find it interesting. I thought that the main difference among those bows was its length, now I have learnt that is also their weight. I have heard an seen many cellists who make experimental music to use different bows, even two bows at the same time, in different directions, it is a very curious phenomenon. And in some contemporary orchestal pieces I' ve seen percussionists to use the double bass bow to slide it over the border of plates, it makes a very nice kind of "airy" sound. My regards!
Yes, I remember a performance of a cellist from Netherlands. She performed several contemporary pieces using two bows. It was interesting technique, but I personally was not impressed or convinced that it was done with musical interest in mind. Percussionists are famous for experimenting with unusual tools- quite a fascinating experience. Thank you for sharing. It is always great to hear from you!
This was fun!!!
Do you have any suggestions for cello bows? which ones are better? how to take good care of it?
I should make a video about it!
What kind of bow are you using now?
yes please! definitely!
This was a really good idea to try. As a listener, I could hear that with the two lighter bows the sound never got to fully develop, never got round and warm. On the opposite side, the bass bows were both too heavy, the sound starts to come out really quick and tend to sound like a cello, but is being held back by the weight of the bow. My conclusion is simple, those who invented the bows for all different string instruments were geniuses. I always thought that a double bass bow could be used to improve the projection of the cello sound. YOU PROVED ME WRONG!!! 😂 😂
Completely agree, Ernesto. It was always on my bucket list to try it. I could not bring myself to do it with my concert cello though...
What an interesting video! Thank you teacher, I've always wondered what if I use a wrong bow in my cello? You are nice
Thank you! Are you convinced now that cello bow works quite well for cello?
@@Cellopedia for sure! I can't explain now how I was able to use a violin bow in my cello for 6 months at college 🤣.
It might be a good entry to guinness book of records!!!
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Good video, very informative. Thank you.
Thank you 😊 Do you play cello?
@Cellopedia no , I just got a cello to start playing. I used to play bass.
I got the old cello, I think it is from 1800 or older it has mechanical pegs I have never seen on cello. What u think?
@@nicolasrahnama6333 do those pegs look similar to double bass pegs?
@Cellopedia yes I never seen on cello,
@@nicolasrahnama6333 usually these pegs have to be replaced. This cello might have some other issues. I hope you have an opportunity to show it to an experienced luthier.
What makes a cellobow a good bow?
Master !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cool
super !
I notice that's not your usual beautiful cello!
I was afraid to end my dear cello’s life prematurely. It did not live 200 years to be treated like this ;)
It is not fair - you did not play your usual - good sound🤣🤣🤣 cello !
Here you go - productive criticism 😂. I thought we agreed to make mean comments 🤣🤪🥳
I was a chicken 🐓 to use my good cello
@@Cellopedia LOL 🤣I do not have my English good enough to bit the bet but I think you should compare sound of each bow with proper cello bow. And then wooden one with carbon. And then carbon cello with wooden an so on 🤣🤣🤣
@@marzenafroow5401 this is what my former teacher used to tell me - I need to work harder 🥸
@@Cellopedia Thanks to God my teacher doesn't say that yet. Hope he doesn't read these comments🤣🤣🤣
the violin bow was letting off way more overtones for some reason
Agree! Might be not about different kinds of overtones. Perhaps higher ones
70 grams is more what a viola bow weighs
How much does your bow weigh?
@@Cellopedia i have many viola bows and they are all around 70g. Violin bows are more around 60 + or - 5 grams. Most of them + or - 3 grams.