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Anne begs Henry scene
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2011
- The Tudors season 2 episode 9 scene. Sad scene when Anne Boleyn with her daughter Elizabeth on her hands begs king Henry for mercy.
Song: Anne begs Henry by Trevor Morris
Watching Henry treat women that way probably was a big part of why Elizabeth never married.
That and her dad beheaded her mom.
Natalie Ann Yes, and that she saw Anne of Cleves did well without marriage, though of course she didn’t need marriage as she received a great allowance from Henry.
She probably didn't marry because her stepmother's new husband (either Thomas or Edward Seymour) molested her to the point to where her stepmother sent her away to live somewhere else to stop it. He would go into her room while she was still in her nightclothes and "play wrestle" when she was 14 years old.
Natalie Ann she was smart enough to know the limits men have emotionally, and not just think that it was only her father.
elizabeth and henry had a decent relationship when she got older. i think with her, she was more annoyed with the thought of men running everything. her decision never to marry and have kids was a unique one. she wanted to rule her kingdom herself. smart woman.
I can't even imagine how much Natalie's legs burned after filming this scene. To have the physical endurance to carry a child of around three with that enormous dress and heels on and climb those stairs. I could see the pain in her face. Did good for the scene though.
breeship iii
Natalie is a runner...I think she is actually is a very fine shape.
True, but still carrying that little girl and the weight of that gown adds up even if you are physically fit :)
AbbyWhisperWitch I agree. This scene though.....so sad!
She's an actress though sooo
"You were not a virgin when you married me"
Of course she wasn't Henry... She slept with you before your wedding. Dont you remember that?
Henry is a big dummy
Stooopid boi
Henry soon realised that Anne Boleyn was actually innocent Henry truly love Anne Boleyn
she actually didn’t. she refused to have an affair with him, she insisted that he divorce his wife first.
Bella Marshall did you even watch the show?
She is an extraordinary actress. Everything she does i really believe in it - doesn't feel fake.
kbhanna24 yeah I feel like she is so underrated
I agree! She’s so talented that she simply melts into the character she’s playing. It’s a joy to watch her work!
kbhanna24 Ever heard of "forced acting" ? This is a prime example.
I can bet after the 2nd take she was thinking "I'm gonna nail this scene because I REFUSE to walk in these shoes, wearing this HEAVY dress carrying this HEAVY kid again!"
even JRM's acting too, all of the actors and actresses are too good
That moment, when she cries "Your Majesty!" after him... Chills, every time.
ariatara excellent acting and extremely good script as well.
I love the way Natalie Dormer just disappears into any character she plays. I barely recognized her in Mockingjay. She becomes her characters as easily as most of us change our clothes. She’s truly amazing!
she was in mockingjay?!
@@emma8187 yess.. played Cressida
And played a small part in Captain America too.
Yep
"One more chance!, one more!" I love that line because basically makes clear two things: 1. She accepts that her crime is not adultery, but failing in produce male issue for Henry VIII. 2. She admits that the only real fact because she is the queen of England is the need of the king of a son, and not for being a better woman than Katherine (an idea that she continually refused).
ETBM1000 I used to feel bad for Boleyn when I was younger but having read that, she abused Mary I, I wanted to execute her as well lol
@@imme246 she meant the Lady Mary, Catherine of Aragon daughter
@@imme246 I admit Phillipa is not a true presenter of facts
@@cucucoco she WHAT? 😀
@@corinthiaevangeline9023 Anne didn’t abuse Mary (Henry’s oldest daughter from Catherine of Aragon). They never had a good relationship with each other, Anne tried to make amends with Mary on the show and even in real life, but Mary refused. Rightfully so, since Anne replaced her mother and how Henry treated her. But Anne never abused Mary, she wasn’t the evil step mother some people try to make her out to be.
I makes me sad to see Anne begging Henry While she holds Elizabeth so close to her.
What's sad is thus scene actually took place in real life I was suprised when I read some biographies and read about it
Zandie Weeks w
Calculated move..although it didn't help her in the end...
Misty Lake
Instinctual move. Your mind is sick and sad.
@@AddBowIfGirl LoL! Whatever. If you really believe Anne got to king's bed just by being sweet and kind then fiiiiiine. She PLAYED a dangerous game pretty much from day 1 when she arrived. She promised the king a BOY and whoops when she didn't deliver she knew she was walking on very thin ice and eventually it melted and she was plunged to..well, death. It would have been a lot easier for Anne to run after the king and go up the stairs and whatever if she was alone..but she immediately realized a child in her arms would make her look more "soft and vulnerable" etc. She hoped it would make the king think "such a devoted mother could never be guilty of those things she's been accused of". But nope, her game was over.
This scene shows exactly whey Elizabeth I would NEVER MARRY. To see her mother brought so low as to BEG her husband to NOT KILL HER. Well even a child of 3 will remember what a monster a man can be. Especially knowing his whole history- remember Anne's cousin Katherine Howard was also killed by him.
Elizabeth never married as wisely she realised she could have no appropriate husband as testified by the disastrous marriages of Mary I and Mary Queen of Scots. Queen regnants then could not marry a king consort, and to marry a nobleman would upset the hegemony of court (somethings Kings did not need to worry about). However Elizabeth did play of foreign suitors for treaties and then dropped them at appropriate times. She probably had her affairs as well.
@@malcolmabram2957 No. Elizabeth didn't want to share power with anyone, and plus; I don't think she would've been A good mother.
Elizabeth had every intention to marry. She had loads of suitors. It just never worked out. If Robert Dudley's wife hadn't died in shady circumstances (at least for that time) she probably would've married him
@@daesgatling1345 Also Francis of Anjou, who she would have married if her subjects weren’t discriminating against him for being Catholic.
Mary Tudor watched her mother humiliated and herself demoted and delegitimized.....
These two chemistry was undeniable. She is by far the most powerful female actress along with his wife Catherine, Mary mother. These three played the roles so good!
Burberry black agreed! The way the other wives were presented in this series was just so forgettable
when anne says one more chance and henry walked away my heart liked ripped out poor anne she didnt deserve to die. I think it was said elizabeth only remembered her mother begging for her life
cam maitlin she wanted mary dead. she deserved to die.
cam maitlin Elizabeth didn’t remember this scene as she was too young, but when she was a young queen, one of her older courtiers described witnessing this scene.
C am
She wronged poor Catherine of Aragon and her sister too. No sympathy.
@@marieconroy8769 Yea, because it was ANNE that wronged Catherine, not Catherine's husband who also happened to be the king.
@@marieconroy8769 Yes, because Anne should have been able to reject the king vehemently no matter how many advances he made.
This was the saddest, even with the child there. Yes she was 3 at the time. ...but my daughter remembers things from when she was younger. Obviously the girl grew up to be the most powerful War Queen.
she was actually about to be three when her mother got torn away from her. :/
+Anne Olivia Marie Evans when I was three I remember felt off of my bed, so this is a very touching scene, as a father Henry should think of her daughter first and not as a man or w.e he was really thinking when he want to end with her mother's / wife life.
This show really shows how terrifying it was to be Henry's wife. They really nail down the terror of being around Henry in that reign.
Although I supported Katherine of Aragon throughout all her ordeals, I must say I did feel sorry for Anne here.
Same here.
Same here
It's fair to support both, they were both victims of Henry VIII. Henry made the decision to abandon Katherine just like he made the decision to behead Anne. He decided to send Mary to wait on Elizabeth and to disinherit Mary since she and her mother didn't bend to his will. He decided to disinherit Elizabeth to spite Anne and made sure she knew he disinherited her child before she died. I feel sorry for both women and they were in a no-win situation.
It's honestly nice to see a comment and replies supporting both of them and acknowledging them both as victims of henry, instead of favoring one (usually Catherine) and attacking the other (most of the time Anne).
@@iceprincess1898I can’t say I feel bad for Anne, it’s not like she tried to help Mary the way wife number 3 Jane did.
Throughout the whole series, I always hated Henry. He was a hypocrite and he treated Anne horribly. She deserved better than him. She was by far the best character in the show
Really? so you wanna completely forget what she did to Katherine right?
She was a victim of a time where it was obvious that Catherine was going to have to step aside , I know people don't want to hear it and it wasn't Catherine's fault but the Howard's Seymour's Boleyns blounts were trying for Anne position . If it had not been Anne it would have been another duchess or princess , war. Of the roses was too fresh in people's minds and Henry VIIs father won the crown he didn't inherit he married Elizabeth if York to seal it but still he needed a son. Anne miscarried similar to Catherine then after Jane there were no more I think his genetics were more the issue than his wives
+I'm Kevin She didn't do anything to Katherine... Henry was responsible for sending her away from court, exiling her from her home, and separating her from her daughter.
Well she poisoned her in the show
did u even watch it?
Anne did plenty! She deliberately deceived Henry about whether or not she was a virgin and she deliberately kept Mary away from both the girl's parents. Many historians agree that Anne's treatment of Mary left a lasting impression, and Mary might not have been such an extremist if not for Anne.
Has anyone else noticed that Henry and was waiting for Anne just so he could turn away from her lol, really Henry.
It looked to me as if she knew where he'd be. They showed her gown all muddy and tattered as if she had been roaming through the garden. I'm guessing she would know where he went to be alone and think considering they spent so much time hiding during their courtship
“Your majesty I beseech you!” I love her delivery of that line.
I've been crying at this scene all weekend :'(
I can picture the real anne boleyn crying begging henry for mercy with the princess Elizabeth in her arms
But this scene never occurred. Anne was arrested during a jousting tournament (Henry had already left their tent), and she never again laid eyes upon the King. Elizabeth was nowhere nearby.
Actually The joust was on May the 1st which was the day of love at court. Anne was arrested on the 2Nd of May however this actually occurred before. ..
In a letter to Queen Elizabeth I there is a account of a man witnessing Anne and Henry in a argument with the princess Elizabeth in her arms however what anne said to henry is unknown or has been lost over time.
By the Way "Henry Norris" was arrested at the joust on May Day.
I never heard of a scene in which Anne begged for her life. Henry was a bit of a coward, and could not face the wives at the time of their dismissals. He left Catherine of Aragon for good without telling her, he sent messengers to inform Anne of Cleves that the marriage was over, and he refused to see a screaming and hysterical Catherine Howard.
Actually this scene really did happen exactly like it was shown , she brought Elizabeth with her as a sign of hope in her fertility and that she had produced one but I thought it was a fake scene until I read it in a few biographies
Just heartbreaking and outrageous how a woman who has just lost ANOTHER child has to beg to her husband for another chance, instead of taking the time to heal and grieve for her loss. No she has to immediately pull herself together and face the stress of being married to that guy ... Time period aside, he should be the one begging, not her. Excellent acting and show though!
And beg a man she caught cheating on her!! Maybe her insistence was her downfall. The psycho needed to have a clear path to go after the new supply she caught him with and lost a child due to the anguish
I wonder how that child actress managed to stay so calm while they screamed.
Henry was already so over her by this point, and you can see the desperation in her eyes and hear it in her voice. She knew she was doomed. Very sad.
You can see the unwavering mortal hatred in Henry’s eyes as he just shoves his way past her. It’s great acting on Jonathan’s part
I love the simultaneous power, command, and yet humility rippling in her voice. Henry must have been mad and out of his senses to be able to ignore her beseechings
elizabeth learned from this experiance, knowing who her mother really was. it made her stronger andd she is known as one of the best queens in history.
And she never married..she knew what the consequences could be!
What breaks my heart the most about this scene is how much this would affect Elizabeth in the future. When you look at her as an adult you can really tell what Henry's treatment of Anne did to her.
yeah it taught never never to trust a man's word - and never get married.
Ann was executed when Elizabeth was 3 years old, I don't think she remembered that much, but she grew up watching her father getting married again and again and executing her mother's cousin(imagine watching this as a child and come to think of it, this is probably how your own mother died), that was definitely a blow.
henry has got anger issues simple feel sorry for all the wives he had
Exactly. And yet SOMEHOW, you relate to him in some way. Jonathan knocked in out of the fucking park with this role
This scene never fails to shatter my heart and affections for this couple. It serves to always intensify the admiration and respect I have for Anne Boleyn and Natalie Domer's portrayal of the character in such moments.
So you respect and admire a home wrecker.......
PianoDiva20 I somewhat agree with you on this one. Do remember that Henry, for all his pontifications, was also a sinner in this regard. Moreover, Anne was quite complicit in literally hounding Catherine of Aragon to death, her cruel treatment of the Princess Mary, and calling for the executions of John Fisher, Thomas More and others who would not swear allegiance to the marriage.
PianoDiva20 But I do not believe she deserved the ending she received.
I do agree with you diva that she was agressive but some of that was counter reformation gossip she ended up hounding Mary more than Catherine , Mary was more the threat and put in service to Elizabeth publicly she gave more than small the queens combined to the poor and women, privately she was hounded for seven years as the great whore and probably got sick of it and just lost it on all of them. The Tudors don't show that the divorce took close to seven years I'd probably lose it on some people if I was afraid for my daughter and trying to secure around me a group of people who accepted me as queen
PianoDiva20 Has life always been so black and white? Do people not sin and are flawed yet have moments of clarity and redemption? Referring only to the Tudors, was Anne not condemned to die brutally and unjustly for a crime that she was not proven to have commit? The irony of her downfall and that of Catherine is uncanny
Natalie Dormer was sensational in this scene. So heartbreaking.
This scene is so sad =( natalie dormer played anne boleyn very well
This was another one of those powerful scenes. Natalie's acting as Anne was brilliant! Also, beautiful melody was playing in this scene :3
Even Anne Boleyn's enemies -- and she had plenty of them, probably more than all of Henry's other wives combined -- were a little shocked at Henry's decision to completely destroy her. Why not just divorce her? That was why he rejected Catholicism and formed the Church of England in the first place: so he could divorce his wife without anyone else's approval.
I guess he decided it would be more expedient to execute Anne rather than divorce her. But even he know that the charges against her were false. Maybe that's why he chose for her to be beheaded rather than burned at the stake, and why he granted her request to be beheaded by a swordsman rather than having her head chopped off via an axe.
I've read that Henry's twisted reasoning was precisely that- The reason he formed the Church of England was so he could divorce Catherine of Aragon. He felt that he couldn't get away with divorcing Anne. He cared for his subjects and others opinions, rather than the opinion of the one person that counted-his daughter, Elizabeth. His actions showed he never truly cared for her at all.
Well after the spectacle they made about Catherine this and Catherine that and not able to give him sons. I don’t think the people would’ve accepted another divorce especially since Anne was still young enough to have more children. It made more sense the allegations against her.
@@bautistalover There's also the fact that he had made such a massive deal about Anne being their rightful queen over Catherine that he broke centuries of tradition to break away from the Church and sent hundreds of innocent people, including his old friend Thomas More, to the scaffold who disagreed that if he just tried annulling their marriage, then he'd have to actually admit he was wrong and that wasn't something Henry the VIII couldn't afford without becoming the laughing stock of Europe.
He was so cruel to her. Her daughter became England’s greatest ruler
Elizabeth reported this as being one of only two memories she had of her parents together.
In this scene Natalie is absolutely perfect.
She's always flawless in playing characters, but here she is flawlessly stunning.
It's ironic that the man who wanted a son so badly was eventually known in history as the father of the most powerful queen of England.And even his bloodline was wiped out by Elizabeth remaining celibate throughout her life.
Not exactly, yes Elizabeth did not marry nor had kids, but her heir and godson James is who Henry's grand nephew and of his family bloodline is who with his children, their kids and future generations to their living desendants House Mountbatten Windsor whom share blood with House York, Tudor, Plantagent and Neville like Henry and his children Elizabeth, Mary and Edward did still rule the UK with Parliment to this day
Natalie Dormer plays her so well, such a great actress
Where are her awards then? Great actors and actresses at least win some awards and even if they don't win they have tons of nominations. Let's not get carried away shall we?
Kate Williams lmao this is the second comment I’ve seen of you shitting on Natalie’s performance as Anne. Get a life, and Generate your energy into something more productive than insulting someone’s acting you fucking weirdo.
@@katewilliams4013 Are you kidding me? Tell me this... are you a better actress than she is? Can you perform better than this?
@@katewilliams4013 shut up kate
Over a decade on, this is one of the most sincere, real performances of desperation I have ever seen.
Anne was a pawn of her father's ambition
Gotta remember. This is the year 1536 A.D., a tme when women no matter the rank had no rights whatsover and were treated slightly better than cattle. What do you expect? Those were the days that dowries ruled and women could not divorce their husbands. Pretty shitty time to be a woman... a college education? HA!
@@katewilliams4013 true
Anne: I STILL LOVE YOU
Also Anne: Deadass smirking when he starts crying
Henry beheaded Elizabeth's mother and she became the best ruler of England •-•
That little girl was thinking please don't drop me woman and that little girl look sad to
Is it just me, or does Henry resemble Darth Vader a LOT when he's storming away from Anne and Elizabeth?
Sad scene yet I love the views and the score. "One more" - Her Majesty :(
Guys like this even exist now. And they need to know their place.
In the Game of Thrones, either you win or you die. There is no middle ground.
This is when Henry VIII really went off the rails. I have stated elsewhere that he was a blood-thirsty monster etc., but I have now come to the conclusion that the sequence of soul- destroying tragedies (i.e. the births of legitimate sons of Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn who either died soon after birth or were miscarried) and other terrible disappointments in life and his relationships with other people (Cardinal Wolsey, Thomas More etc.) turned him from the humanist he had been into a cynical, mistrusting tyrant. It is truly a sad story for all involved as Henry became the victim of his own desires and the mad persuit for a son who could succeed him on the throne, tearing down all who stood in his way, one way or another, by any means he had available, even judicial murder.
Don't forget about the head injury he suffered during that jousting accident, but otherwise I think you're spot on.
@Erin Hanrahan A scumbag indeed. Ruling over a kingdom full of scumbags. Can you blame him? Who voted Donald Trump into power? Decent people or a hundred million scumbags who believe he's a "decent man" ??
@@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana Yes, the head injury was during Anne's time as Queen. It is suspected that he might have had a bad concussion. His personality changed for the worse.
Executing Thomas More was the moment Henry really went bad imo. All because More wouldn’t sign a paper that would essentially make him bend to Henry like a whipped dog. No one was safe from Good King Hal.
I both love and hate this scene with a passion. It tears me up inside to see how Henry turns on Anne with a passion. But I adore it because the actors really did give this scene something to be remembered.
Poor Elizabeth, she was in Anne's arms as this happened.
The actress must have been in pain after that scene...
So sad! Henry treated Anne and little Elizabeth like dirt! He used her and threw her away like garbage! He was no king but the lowliest of men!
He treated his daughter Mary like dirt too, after he divorced her mother. He had her declared a bastard, removed her from the line of succession and even made her be a servant to Elizabeth for awhile.
Well Karma is a bitch in Anne's case
Yes
He was an evil king I hate the fact that he killed Ann. Good thing her daughter made her dreams come true.
This is heartbreaking. She is begging for her life and her daughters.
POOR ANNE BOLEYN !
THIS SCENE IS SO SAD !
REST IN PEACE BEAUTIFUL QUEEN BOLEYN !!
Henry was an abuser. Period.
king henry was such a digusting person, he never loved anyone but himself may he rot in hell
I'd like to believe that in a parallel universe or something Henry turns around and gives her another chance....
Glinda041592 I do too. Anne was just born a few centuries ahead of her time unfortunately. Even if she DID cheat on Henry, she didn't deserve to die. Neither did Katherine Howard. Heck, he wasn't a model husband to any of his wives, not even Jane Seymour, whom he used the "Remember the late queen" threat against.
Glinda041592 Me too. And she has her boy.
Jeff F. did she really cheat?
lullaby she never cheated on Henry
Jeff F ahead of her time lol having an affair with a married man, wanting his child dead and insulting his ex wife so much. This is all set in the tudor times which were dangerous for women. She probably wanted henry to get angry and do something like kill katherine and mary. She was a complete bitch.
Katherine howard was an innocent child who shouldnt have been married to an old mean
This is such a sad scene :( Despite Anne's flaws, people failed to realise that she did genuinely love Henry. In some ways she knew what game she was getting into and in other ways she didn't. There were always surprises along the way, like when she realised that despite Henry's promise of devotion to her, he would go back to the way he was with Catherine, having affairs and expecting her to keep quiet. And I think she truly believed that a man who loved her wouldn't do this, even if he was the King. Would anyone willingly believe their loving spouse would kill them, let alone divorce them? In this case, love, (at least for a while), was blind. I know part of her downfall was being too outspoken and her involvement in politics, (seen as unsuitable for a woman in those times), as well as failing to deliver a son, (which was hardly her fault), but I honestly feel that she did genuinely love Henry and didn't think that he would or could execute her after fighting so hard to marry her.
True
You mean she did the typical side chick thing. Oh he cheated on the last one but I’m different so he won’t do it with me? It’s sad this mentality is still around. Cheaters are going to cheat, there’s a reason that saying started. For that time period of Anne really believed Henry would be faithful she was very naive. Kings had mistresses that was a well known fact why Anne thought she would be different escapes me.
@@bautistalover
Except Henry Tudor (Henry VII), Henry VIII’s father. He was one of the very few kings who was I known to be very faithful to Elizabeth of York, Henry’s mother. Didn’t take any mistresses which was uncommon for his position. Was very devastated when she died from childbirth complications. Ironic how his son turned out the way he did.
@@amatulfulani6390 yeah his father was the exception not the rule, but yes it’s sad he didn’t follow his fathers footsteps. Perhaps had his brother lived…..
I love this show, and I remember when I discovered it, how I so much looked forward to binge watching every episode.
I miss this series....
This scene never fails to bring tears to my eyes. Poor Anne - and Elizabeth too! To see Henry turn his back on them both was just heartbreaking. The actors totally deserved awards for this, especially Natalie.
I believe this is a turning point in Elizabeth’s life
Henry VIII didn't want to kill her but he was under pressure from many of his ministers who had a grudge on her.
I was crying anyway. But when she decided to resort to calling him “magesty” made me realise that if this is a fact based scene, she must have felt desperate! I feel bad for Katherine of Aragon who was a loyal queen since he was 18, just to be put a side when his new toy wanted to play queen. But I do feel sorry for Anne also as I’m getting older.
henry believes his own lies.
bobst657 That is what makes a person dangerous to those around him. It makes him a delusional abuser.
@@shreyasingh117 And if you're in a relationship with an abuser and think loving him will make him better than you deserve to be abused as far as I'm concerned. No free-thinking, independent woman should beg to be loved or hope to appeal to the good side of an abuser.
It’s possible-not likely but possible-that Henry honestly believed Anne was adulterous. Don’t forget that his entire attitude to Anne changed dramatically following his jousting accident (head injury and knocked unconscious for several hours). The charges against her are obvious lies (she was accused of being with particular men at specific locations and times when she was confirmed to be elsewhere). But it’s doubtful Henry actually read or investigated the charges and he wanted a quick end to the marriage. He believed what was convenient.
Another reason Henry may have believed Anne was unfaithful was because HE was unfaithful. A lot of cheating spouses frequently suspect or accuse innocent partners of cheating. It’s redirected guilt. But since he was emotionally and sexually neglecting Anne and seeking romantic attention elsewhere, he couldn’t keep tabs on Anne’s behavior. Anne was a charming, sexy woman. If she WANTED to take lovers she certainly could have.
Little does Henry know the son he always wanted to expand the empire, make the country and reign long after he died would be carried in the hands of the woman he has lost interest in simply because it’s not a boy.
I adore Anne, and this scene breaks my heart :(
Henry VIII was pissed with Anne because he want a boy not a girl like elizabeth. Poor little elizabeth she was three years old when she don't understand why her dad Henry was angry with her mom Anne :"(
If Margaery Tyrell was married to King Henry she would have won the end game
In history or GoT? Not in history, IMO; the only woman who was going to win an end game with Henry VIII was whoever could bear him a son. edit: a legitimate son, a male heir born in wedlock
@@marysueeasteregg In GoT Margaery would only have had problems with Henry VIII for not bearing him a son, but she would have known how to deal with him and work him in all the other ways. She wouldn't have made the mistakes that Anne Boleyn did.
Ultimately Anne was killed because she wouldn't really shut the fuck up. I love Anne boleyn but she was too fiery and always have something to say and back then women with "opinions" was not happening.
Plus she made enemies and no allies.
Had she conducted herself in a more reserved manner, the worst that would have happened was another annulment. Catherine of Aragon was dead by this time, so Henry did not have to worry about annulling the marriages of two wives who were still alive. Anyway, he was now head of the Church of England, so he could have set the rules as he saw fit. Anne was in her thirty-fifth year at the time of her arrest (I accept the earlier birth date of 1501), and she had already suffered a miscarriage and a stillbirth after having Elizabeth. Henry remembered that Catherine was thirty-three when she had her last pregnancy (a stillbirth), and that if he wanted a son, he would need to find an even younger queen. Unfortunately for Anne, she was so despised that her enemies wanted nothing less than her complete destruction. Moreover, unlike Catherine (the aunt of the Holy Roman Emperor), she had no powerful foreign leaders to safeguard her security.
I actually adore Anne Boleyn but have to agree and have always said the same thing , she pushed him too hard, he probably would have sent her to a nunnery or abroad she couldn't find a way to cross over from being a mistress to a wife , she should have let him shag everything in sight and acted more like Catherine but her fiery attitude is what attracted Henry to her to begin with
Her only remaining ally by this point was Thomas Cranmer, and there wasn't much he could do to save her.
Jeff F. Not that Cranmer was a scrupulous ally to have, as he was only out for himself. He saw Anne merely as a tool for his Protestant agenda, and little else. He loathed the fact that the Catholic leaning Jane Seymour was too squeaky clean, and was likely elated by her early death. He would have thrown Anne of Cleves under the bus had she not cleverly managed to save herself, and of course, he nailed the teenaged Catherine Howard (part of the Catholic faction) as soon as her adultery was leaked out, and conducted a brutal interrogation of her. He even condemned Henry Grey and John Dudley, his Protestant allies who tried to put Jane Grey on the throne instead of Mary I, and even condemned the Protestant cause in a vain attempt to save himself. Only when he was led to the stake (Mary did not buy his confession) did he re-embrace the Protestant cause.
Yeah, he and Cromwell were two peas in a pod...
Passion, love, lust, yes! Add to that mixture the male double standard and her husband as King of England
so sad fate for the queen.. my heart hurt for her.. great queen...henry so idiot not hearing the queen's explanation.
When she fell to the ground, that’s the moment she knew she wouldn’t live to see Elizabeth grow up 😭 Natalie played the hell out of this role.❤
Watching this I remember how Henry begged Anne to stay at court whilst she said she was wasting her youth on him wow
I understand their relationship was failing because they both had done bad things to each other but come on now WHY DO THIS WITH THE DAUGHTER RIGHT THERE!
+StoryWriter1209 It's based on historical fact. *shrug* Anne DID beg Henry, but he was at a window (IIRC) and nobody really knows what was said.
Anne brought Elizabeth with her in hopes to soften Henry. She thought he'd be more merciful with their child there, and that it would remind him that she could have kids.
Anne did nothing wrong. Her only fault was that she didn't produce sons. That was why he killed her.
I mean considering Anne ran up to him with their daughter in tow and chased him down after he walked away.
@@naomianbar6756you mean a manipulation tool that back fired on her. Cit probably furthered his position that she had been manipulating him from the start.
The dress is beautiful, but apparently women back then didn't actually pick up there skirts when walking. Instead they did this side sweeping motion with there legs. It was considered highly improper to lift one's skirts and show there ankles.
I love this scene so much, and it breaks my heart every time I watch it. I've heard/read a lot of people either completely villifying Anne, Henry, or even Jane for what happenned, and I just want to say this: since when is everything painted in black and white? Anne had her faults, as did Henry and the rest of his wives. Anne Boleyn is not my favorite wife of Henry the Eighth, because I don't have one. I admire certain things about all of them, and I acknowledge certain things about all of them that weren't amazing. The same goes for all three of Henry's acknowledged children (Mary, Elizabeth, and Edward). I will say this for Anne Boleyn though: I greatly admire her love for her child, as well as her determination. She knew exactly what she wanted, and she went for it. I can't speak to whether or not she did love Henry ( Though I like to believe she did) cause I wasn't there. regardless, she was a woman ahead of her time, and I'm sad that it cist her so dearly.
This is a very heart breaking scene... she didn't have a chance after that.... :(
I've been in love with a woman who died years ago... and I always will do! Anne is amazing.
She was a whore and deserved exactly what she got for the way she treated Catherine.
@@ACS402010 ... He who is without sin among you cast the first stone. If you "really" love someone love should outweigh the sin by far and that's where forgiveness comes into play. If given several chances then still forgive but divorce and move on. No one deserves death for such as she did. He was no saint himself that's for friggin sure.
Natalie Dormer was amazing in this role - I remember watching the execution scene and tears streaming down my face! Obsessed with all things Tudor.........such a shame she miscarried her saviour - she tried so hard to give Henry a son, heck, they all did.
Henry is so heartless.
Michelle Lee Yes and no. A lot of People said that she lied . What should he Think?(Sorry , im german)
Elizabeth grew to be a great queen but the Boleyns got what they deserved. Bunch of vicious social climbers and let's be real; Anne wasn't stupid, far from it, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing. They played the King, tore England apart, cost men like Thomas More their lives, and finally had to pay the price.
***** She did, that didn't mean she didn't start out her game without love. The Tudors is a great representation of Anne. She was ambitious and greedy, but in the end she did love Henry. She might have not been a witch nor an adulterer, she failed at giving Henry a son but she also fell because she didn't know how to shut the fuck up. She was a social climber and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt by believing her family pushed her into it. She was incredibly intelligent, and not at all a martyr nor a complete victim.
She wasn't a complete victim is the thing. Everyone knows she didn't love Henry from the start, that's settled, and while she fell hard head over heels for him, she got what she deserved. Mary, her sister became Henry's mistress, maybe bore him a son, and that was the end, boom, bye Mary as soon as Henry grew tired of her. It could have been the same for Anne, she could have been another mistress, but no, she saw what there was to gain if she could persuade him to make her Queen and took her chances. Certainly she was one hell of a woman, only God knows what she could have achieved if she lived in modern times. Now, I am not calling her a whore, nor a witch. She was a great mother, I'll give her that, and as I said, she could in very fact be a role model for women these days, she did all her times could allow her to do, but she was far from a complete victim. While yes, she could have miscarried from stress it is a common theory Henry had kell disease. I mean- think of all of those children he lost with Katherine of Aragon, too much of a coincidence. Kell disease is a condition in which males will hardly have healthy children, it can cause miscarriages and early deaths.
Going back to the subject of Madam Aragon, she was not only a victim to Henry but Anne as well. She was publicly humiliated by Anne plenty of times because Mistress Boleyn didn't have enough with knowing she'd be Queen, she had to rub it in Katherine's face, not to mention was an asshole to Princess Mary who posed a thread to Elizabeth who was then just another daughter. Henry married Anne because he wanted a son and she gave him another girl, what difference did it made? Mary was daughter to a King and a Princess of Spain, Anne was a commoner and Elizabeth considered a brat. Everyone wanted Mary to become Queen and Anne knew it, she fought tooth and nail for her daughter which is admirable, but made a victim out of Mary in the end.
Jane was a victim in the sense giving an immature man what he wanted caused her her life, but she was well tended to and adored by Henry. She was the only wife of his to be given a funeral worthy of a Queen.
Don't get me started with Lady of Cleves, she got off with SUCH luck in comparison to the rest. She might have had to bed with him a couple times if any, she was not tossed to the side when the marriage was annulled, she was give a pension, her estates and servants. I say- she was the luckiest.
Kitty Howard was a child, and she did have a misfortunate demise, but she didn't have to put up with Henry as long as even her cousin Anne.
Madam Parr was a lovely woman, fortunately she survived the fat lard and was allowed to remarried not to mention given a pension. The rumours of there being an order of arrest for heresy aren't confirmed, so she could have lived peacefully as the last wife, his nurse.
Back to the point though, Anne knew precisely what she was doing, she went for it and no one could blame her. Had she had a healthy son like Jane she might have been the loved Queen, but whether she loved or didn't love Henry didn't mean she was a good woman, quite far from it. She was a good wife, a marvellous mother, a sorry Queen and a terrible person, facts are facts. But certainly, at least her life was never dull.
+Mysterious Stranger I don't think Anne was a terrible person, but I won't deny that she had a lot of faults. I don't know, despite everything, she's still my favorite out Henry VIII's wives.
But yes, Anne did know exactly what she was doing. Many have portrayed her father, Thomas Boleyn as an ambitous schemer plotting to bring the Boleyn's to glory, and he used his children to do it. I've heard on and off things about Anne's father, but one thing is for certain: Anne was completely responsible for her actions. She influenced, and decided for herself.
She did everything for her own benefit at the expense of others; that makes her a horrible person. Look at how Catherine of Aragon ended because of HER, Mary was traumatized for life because of HER as well [the Princess may have antagonized her but Anne was still Queen, she didn't have to make Mary miserable], Catholics in England were killed by the thousands because of HER, monasteries were destroyed, England's entire culture changed because the King wanted to be with his whore, being blunt that's what it is. England's Anglicanism stands for a greedy, inconsiderate King who was encouraged by his mistress. Wanting to not be a slut isn't a crime, but everything that happened because of capricious Anne is, she still got what she deserved. I actually like the first wife better, or Catherine Parr, even Anne of Cleves or Jane Seymour who weren't around for long.
You believe Anne was a terrible person. That’s your right, and I’m not going to try and change your opinion.
The only thing I will do, is share my side for why I don’t think she is as evil as many make her out to be.
Or, at the very least, why I don’t think she should take all of the blame.
For one thing, if Anne was so terrible, then she’s no different than many others who have destroyed people for their own benefit. Simply put, and no I’m not excusing any of Anne’s actions: but she lived during a time when if you wanted any sort of power at all, or any way to survive, you had to step on others and use them at their expense to get what you wanted. In King Henry’s court, it seemed like family members had no problems with backstabbing other family members, in order to get a slice of the pie.
For example, look at Lady Jane Grey’s family. From what I know, Jane never wanted to become Queen of England, but because of her family, as well as the late king Edward VI’s proclamation, she didn’t have a choice. Mary was even willing to grant Jane reprieve, but it wasn’t until Wyatt’s Rebellion (which happened because people were against Mary I marrying Phillip of Spain) that sealed her fate, even though she wasn’t even involved in it. I read somewhere that Jane’s father was involved with the revolt by using two of his brothers to join the rebellion? How was that not using someone at their own expense to gain any influence over the crown? If that rebellion didn’t happen, Jane probably never would have been executed.
Look at Katherine Howard’s uncle, the Duke of Norfolk. Many historians believe that he too was looking to gain a lot of influence over Henry, and thus used his niece to do so. Even though he knew what happened to Henry VIII’s first two wives (how could anyone not), even though he knew his niece has many romantic escapades, he still threw her to the king.
Perhaps the number of people in those instances who were killed for political gain doesn't quite match up to what happened with Anne Boleyn, but the point I'm trying to make is this: practically everyone back in King Henry's court was a little power hungry and no problems doing whatever it took.
You also say that Catherine suffered greatly at the hands of Anne. That, I will not deny. Anne did play a huge part in causing misery to both Catherine and Mary.
However, I also think most of the blame does need to lie with Henry. We do know from historical accounts that Henry wanted a divorce from Catherine, mainly because she couldn’t give him a living heir, and only delivered one child that actually lived, a daughter. Who’s to say Henry wouldn’t have fought tooth and nail for any other woman he wanted to marry? Who’s to say Catherine wouldn’t have suffered just the same? Even if it wasn’t Anne Boleyn Henry was going after, Catherine still would have fought against her husband regarding the divorce. Henry STILL would have found a way to divorce his wife, Anne Boleyn or no Anne Boleyn. Also, no matter who the woman Henry had chosen to marry was, his daughter (Mary) still would have suffered, because no matter what, she still would have been opposed to the divorce, and stuck by her mother. To Henry, it didn’t really mattered who he married (ok, it did, but that’s not the point I’m trying to prove here) as long as he got what he wanted. I won’t deny it was all for Anne, but I’m willing to bet the same thing would have happened even if it was a different woman.
Also, what about Henry's treatment of Mary? Once again, I won't deny that Anne was cruel to Mary.
However, I don't understand why Anne has to take all of the blame. Was she cruel to Mary, yes. She most certainly was.
But Henry also treated Mary AND Catherine like crap during the divorce, and during his marriage to Anne. He had his daughter declared a bastard, made her into a servant to Elizabeth. He also had Catherine be forced into a position, which, back then and for a woman of her status and pride, was very insulting and embarrassing. Yes, I know that some people say Anne favored this motion, but Henry had the final say on pretty much everything. He forbade her (Mary) was ever seeing her mother again, all because of Henry's wishes. I'm sorry, but I don't agree that 100% of the blame should be on Anne. Henry also played a huge part in causing Mary and Catherine misery.
You also say that Anne got what she deserved. I disagree with this. While Anne certainly had her faults, while she could be very ruthless and manipulative, she did not deserve to go down on some false charges. Henry could have just divorced her, and sent her away, and told her to never return to court.
And yes, I do believe she was brought down on false charges. This might be my only reason, but I don’t believe for one second that she would have done anything to put her position, or her daughter’s position, in danger.
Once again, I’m not trying to change your opinion, I’m just sharing my thoughts on it.
Henry didn't spare his first wife and daughter Mary. He caused so much pain and humiliation. You think he would spare you?
Dayum she walked thru mud in heels, CARRYING A CHILD AND BEGGING THE MAN WHO CHEATED ON HER and had other children with the other women
POOR ELIZABETH LOST HER MOTHER AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE!!😢😢😭😭
This scene always takes me back to when Catherine told her " he will tire of you" and she said " and if he doesn't"! I never felt sorry for her! She openly disrespected and humiliated Catherine in her ruthless ambitions to be Queen ! She cost him every one of his most trusted and valued friends. She even implied he needed to murder Catherine and Mary in order to conceive a son! She made her bed and lost her head in it! Her desperate and greedy needs created the animosity Henry had towards her. He knew he screwed up and instead of admitting after all he put England through he killed her. He probably didn't want to go through the whole process again
You need to read the real story. Anne initially didn't want anything to do with Henry. Her father, uncle, and brother forced him on her. Her initial refusals were real, but Henry basically stalked the ish out of her and she eventually fell in love with him. Look at how normal women are when they are in love, the things they do. Also look at Henry VIII's actions towards people after Anne was gone. The stuff he did to people after her death were 10x worse than anything he did while he was with her.
@@Mel-jy4kc Still does not change the fact she disrespected the former Queen and tried to break up a family
@@Mel-jy4kcif agree if she had actually made attempts to help Mary the way Jane Seymour did.
It's horrible Henry thought he could treat women like that
He had a massive entitlement complex that wasn't helped by being spoilt as a child by his mother.
He could though, because that's the way the world treated women during that time. :(
👏 BEST 👏 QUEEN 👏 (other than her daughter, Elizabeth was like best queen but you know)
NO-ONE can play Henry like Jonathan! Absolutely no-one ^^
The song in the background fits perfectly for this scene.
all I could think in this scene was karma for Catharine of Aragon
True but while still the acting queen Catherine was frequently criticized and insulted by Anne for her failure to give Henry male heirs. She constantly said in public how she wanted Catherine to die and kept telling Henry that she could give him the son he never got from his first wife. Anne helped instigate Catherine's fall from grace, expelled from court and have Mary condemned as a bastard. Bottom line Anne promised Henry she could give a son. Henry gave up a lot so that he could marry Anne and in the end she couldn't deliver. Karma.
***** Plus you know if Catherine wasn't the niece to the King of Spain Henry would've had her executed just like his other wives.
D22queen Sweet and beautiful karma : )
+Joseph Carlisle LOL you both made my day
+Estrella katarina lets blame the right person here, Henry Tudor. And Jane was a good, pure and innocent person.... In Hell, maybe.
This was a very moving scene! Love this series.
How you get a man is how you lose them. Besides, Elizabeth was influenced by Catherine Parr.
LMFAO!! Party's over! So Anne tell us....how does Katherine of Aragon shoes feel on you? Inquiring minds would love to know.
If one wants a sad scene, go watch Katherine of Aragon finally see her daughter Mary after forcibly being separated from her for years only to realize she's hallucinating. This tart....no sympathy whatsoever. She played the high risk game and lost.
i don't see how Anne tore KoA and Henry apart but whatever.
KnightOwl61687 Haha yes!
margarey tyrell-peverell She was a home-wrecking bitch--which is exactly why karma came and bit her by the ass in the form of Jane Seymour who basically did the same thing to Anne that Anne did to Catherine of Aragon.
Yes, it was Anne who divorced Henry and Katherine and made Mary's a bastard, because of course she held that much power. If Henry didn't want a divorce, he wouldn't fight for it no matter how much Anne would nag him. The only bitch there was Henry.
What the f*** are you on? At least Katherine got a great many years with her daughter. Anne only got 3 with hers. Keep in mind that Anne is Elizabeth's mother, so you are also gloating over a child losing her mother by their father killing her for things she didn't even do. Also, Anne didn't want to be with Henry until much later; she was engaged to someone else and wanted nothing to do with Henry until he was forced on her. Anne was no saint, but she did not deserve that at all and nor did Elizabeth. None of Henry's wives did, except maybe Katherine Howard since she actually did have a full-on affair with another man.
Gosh such cold heartedness. No wonder Elizabeth never married, Mary had major psychological issues and Edward well he was just a kid!
I guess Margaery never had the best luck with men
Love this scene so much
But I do believe there was love there. Too much passion
Crazy.
Poor Eliza ETH had to experience that
I hate Henry the eighth. He is the baddest Monarch on the British History
I don't think he is as bad as Richard III
@@evanhodder7880 A lot about Richard III are myths perpetuated by William Shakespeare who portrayed him as a deformed mad man willing to kill children to come to power. And that's the same William Shakespeare who has made most modern day people believe Julius Caesar said:"You too my dear Brutus?" when he was stabbed to death in the Ides of March. Caesar didn't say anything - and stabbed people never do - but it made for better drama. There was no evidence Richard III had the princes of the tower murdered and the very belief was first mentioned and registered by historians during the reign of the Tudors - who obviously wanted their "historians" to portray the kings of previous dynasties as demented tyrants.
Hollywood today has managed to rewrite history as mere entertainment ("Argo" about the 1979 Iranian hostage crisis was insultingly wrong on many levels and completely marginalized the crucial British and Canadian contribution) and likewise Shakespeare's dramas became the "historical facts" of the English kings prior to the Tudors. I very much doubt the Tudors would have liked a more objective portrayal of Richard III considering Henry Tudor defeated him.
The great heir he always sought was in front of him the whole time but he was too conceited to see it. The way her father treated her mother is one of many reasons Elizabeth chose to serve her people instead of a man.