How about Zunesha is somehow responsible for the destruction of the Minks’ original home? So he takes it upon himself to carry the Minks around to atone for his crime until Joy Boy returns. Possibly to put the Minks down in their new homeland.
What about The one piece island being the original homeland of the minks, but had to evacuate or IM wiped there memory... Man.. 😁 Loving this story sofar.
I am so glad that the one piece story finally catches some steam. I grew up with it, when first it was released. Now i am almost 30 and we are finally getting somewhere lol
If u notice in one piece they have so many tribe, species, type of people such as giant, two joint bone, long leg, mermaid/merman, human, demi human, dwarf probably joy boy legacy is united all tribe, species, type or people just like luffy does which he enter island will become united and work together like alabasta, ryugu kingdom(fishman island), dressrosa
Joyboy's apology letter (the Poneglyph in the Fishman island) to Poseidon isnt because he did something bad , but because Luffy will destroy the Grand line and the Fishman island (which is located under the Grand line) in order to achieve his dream.
He will destroy the red line using pluton which will destryot the fishmen too, so fishmen has to use noah with the help of poseidon to command the seakings to lift the noah to relocate at the surface, once red line was destroyed, all blue will appear coz it will be the mix of all seas.
@@johncarlosjaner5644HOLY SHIT WE THINK ALIKE. i posted the below in another joyboy video somewhere so after rewatching one piece. i made up a theory… at madam shyarly’s prophecy is a prophecy that will happen in the far future not during fishmen island arc, luffy will destroy marie jois along with the red line with his gear 6 giant gomu gomu no island destroyer. this in turn will destroy discrimination and fishmen island (red line giant boulders will fall onto the island destroying it since the island is next to the red line), the fishmens will be able to use noah to move to the surface. And guess what? since red line is destroyed, ALL BLUE WILL HAPPEN.
There possibly will be no other story like One Piece............. *ever* ! This has been the most non - linear mind warping plot one would ever get to read. It keeps one guessing till the end ! 🙏 Respects to Oda San for this gift.
Nothing to guess about its simple writing Joyboy was the first pirate the first person to inspire people to stand up to the original 20 kings of the world government why nobody aloud to now about the void century aka history to avoid. He was the original holder of the God God model Nika.
@@kinglighty8088 yeah that Japanese audio of it but English reads God God model Nika, like Sengoku reads ancient zone God God model Nika but sub is not always accurate why going learn full Japanese and go back through hole Naruto and One piece animes.
i think the poeple of d were the crewmates of joyboy they were considerd natural enemies of celestial dragons and they were feared of d name ( monkey , gol , marshall , jaguar , neftari , trafalgar , portgas and rocs ) 8 members
Toki died riddled with Beast Pirates' arrows, not "during the deconstruction of Oden's castle", which by the way is a funny way to describe Kaido's absolute carnage.
I think the crew has to do with the d so i assume that the crew memebers of the 1st joyboy must be,the 1st monkey on the family tree,gol,Portgas,Marshal,Trafalgar along with the all of the names of the D members that we arent aware of.
one thing is obvious about IM that he got someone with op op no mi (trafalgars power ) to turn him immortal , in return the power user dies . this fruit was also on his radar along with nika
my theory is that imu was a comrade of joyboy or perhaps in his crew or something else because that would foreshadow blackbeard joining whitebeard crew but then betraying and killing him might've happened to joyboy
I can't wait to see that joy boy flashback or if Luffy goes back to see him. Would be dope since it was more advanced back then. Remind me of star wars.
Idea: Joyboy and Imu were working together to destroy the ancient kingdom that dominated the world with their Lunarian technology. Joyboy gathered 20 kingdoms together to dethrone this evil kingdom that ruled the world and liberate everyone. But when they had finished destroying the evil kingdom and scattered the Lunarians all around the world, Imu betrayed Joyboy probably because she still wanted to get revenge on the Lunarians while he just wanted freedom for everyone even the Luinarians. He died and was unable to finish his promise to give freedom to the fishmen. Imu went on to control the 20 kings and found the world government, to fill the vacuum the ancient kingdom left behind likely just to keep order only for the WG to descend into the depravity and coruption that they initially rose to overthrow.
Have we been watching the same anime??? The Lunarian's lived on top of the Red Line not in the ancient Empire. It is most likely that the Great Empire was the home of the Clan of D and Joy Boy was allied with them. The ancient Weapons were made to destroy the Red Line so that the whole world come become One. Aka One Piece and that plan is most likley the One Piece treasure doesn't need to be gold or gems it can be an ideal. Imu and the 20 kingdoms probably rejected the idea of losing the power when the world all became equal and that is why they went to war with Joy Boy and the Clan of D. (Im pretty sure that Imu was part of Joy Boy's crew and that is how they won due to his help)
@@lelouchvibritannia8997 Ya, I think Joyboy was probably the founder of the Family of D and maybe Imu was the 2nd in charge. I won't lie I can't see what Imu's end game is. It sorta feels like she doesn't have one.
I’d say the ancestral weapon pluton is like a giant turtle carrying Wano in her back, and it needs 4 giant elephants to move or shoot something, just like the world turtle model, but zunesha disobeyed the ancient pluton commander (who nowadays is momonosuke) and disbanded the weapon, because of this, pluton got useless so the ancient kingdom lost the war against the 20 kingdoms. That’s Zunesha crime . And the other 3 elephants are walking in circles., making a triangle between them, that would explain the Florian triangle mist (just like zunesha’s) and the 3 big shadows at the end of thriller bark.
Nice theory 👍 The Turtle with a mountain on back seems very similar to the *Samudra Manthan* (Churning of the Milky Ocean) event where the Devas (Angels/Gods) and Asuras (Demi - Gods/Demonic beings but not biblical demons) use Sarpa Raj (King of Serpents and Nagas) Vasuki Naga to rotate mountain Mandrachala to churn the ocean and Lord Sri MahaVishnu takes the form of a Kurma (Tortoise/Turtle) to hold the entire mountain steady on his back so the two parties can carry out their job 🙏🕉 This connection of Japanese manga and anime with South and Southeast Asian mythology is just awesome. Previously the "Bajrang Gun" where Lord Hanuman is called Bajrang (Bajra/Vajra meaning the Thunderbolt weapon of Indra and Anga - meaning body - Body made of Thunderbolt or metaphorically - an insanely strong body that is invincible) 🙏 Just awesome.
@Louis Peeters more or less, it was a blueprint of some sort that shipwrights can build. So most likely, but that doesn't mean this couldnt apply for a different ancient weapon
I think imu was in joy boys time but I don’t think it will be as simple as imu being on the crew and betraying them. It being one piece it’s gonna be a lot more complicated than that in a good way
My theory is Imu was in the previous Joy Boy time period. Imu had some use the Ope Ope fruits eternal youth on them. Imu wanted to change history to their liking, so. Imu took control of everything. I have a theory that Imu achieved what Rocks was trying to achieve
Fun theory idk maybe u fill find something guys: So if Imu the leader of world government want's to keep the Hito Hito no mi model nika with himself/herself. It's same as luffy wanted to keep the Mera Mera no mi to never anyone eat that for ace memory, what about that when Joyboy was in his prime, he somehow dies or getting killed and his crewmate/bestfriend Imu wanted to do the same for himself to not give them her memory of the best time and the fruit of friend, when luffy saw that Sabo is still alive he knew Sabo his brother will be a good keeper for that cause he even saw much and have much Ace in him, maybe Imu did same, she feeled the one who will be the king of pirates and rule the world will be Luffy, she/he filled it so she lower guard or just let the fruit decide who will be the next JoyBoy and saw luffy, she/he didn't killed him cause saw him "Worthy" to be next joyboy the best man alive who will unite the world once again, If she wont be sure she can easily Destroy him if she was really JoyBoy's crewmate, (crazy theory : maybe she even tried to search for a new joyboy earlier and let fruit chose but she don't see any worthy to be him again so she somehow made them die and protect fruit again) back to main thing i think Imu let fruit decide and she/he knews it will go to the right person, She/he test luffy giving him harder challanges as fighting marines etc but not forcing him to awaken without right time, luffy awaken and it's confirmed that JoyBoy returned, Imu even have the old straw hat that JoyBoy used as the Stone Decoration or just like real hat covered in dust as memorial for him, i don't know how this will end but im so fucking hyped lads. I don't think Imu was traitor i think if traitor will be still here he will dominate and rule the world make collosal terror to all land, And i think all blue divided by Other joyboy's crewmates to not let anyone make chaos in the whole world again. It's just my theory im just a fan and it's my subjective opinion.
What if Toki has sent joyboy in future…. And will appear in near future….. that’s why roger said they were early…. And raftel and one piece has to do something with it like raftel is place where joyboy will appear
My personal opinion is the Oda planned the entire plot up to Wano to misguide the readers and theorists and later from the Egg head onwards is going to be the real One Piece. Hence he realized his dream to make a story that would keep millions guessing around the world and one that people would hit their heads to crack the mystery and know the truth. Till Wano and even till Egg head that has been very much established. Now he also mentioned One Piece is a thing and probably my thought is from the manga that Roger already revealed the One Piece and people just skipping it 'maybe' ...... The fact that he mentions : *Oh What a Treasure you have left behind Joy Boy ! A Tale Full of Laughs ! and then he laughs away simulataneously.* So from this it is possible that the last piece of the 'puzzle' or truth regarding the One Piece world culminated in the last Poneglyph what they call "Rio Poneglyph" ??! sitting on Laugh Tale (if I heard it correctly - other than the rest of the 9 along the Grand Line), was probably the One Piece of the Puzzle narrating the entire history of the World and the Void Century and that was a Tale of Laughs. So...... yep I guess that was the One Piece and Oda San clearly mentioned that when the crew found the One Piece - the story ends there ! So it must be the Tale of Laughs and all the other incidents and revelations to occur prior to it. Whether Luffy travels back in time or not is all probably done prior to discovery of the One Piece and Luffy (if this is the case) knew he wrote it and it will end in a tale of laughs and *Joy* thus attesting the existence of Joy Boy and Freedom. My theory 🙌 Can be wrong on many accounts. Feel free to criticize.
@@aXentOG Exactly 👍 That's why I have mentioned "One piece is 'thing' " as mentioned by Oda himself and that physical object could well be the final poneglyph or the Rio Poneglyph. As I did read that this final cubical stone slab with inscriptions does sit on the island of 'Laugh tale' (previously called Rafftel - which may be the capital of the ancient kingdom). My surmise is thus because all that the Roger Pirates did was laugh and party around - did or could they bring back any tangible object ? No. Hence it must be something rooted to the spot that can only be experienced on location. Hence I called the Rio Poneglyph as One Piece. However, if I heard/read it wrong and the Rio Poneglyph sits on some other island or place like the Lodestar island (last island on the Grand Line), then my surmise falls flat right there. That's what I need confirmation for. Ciao ! 👋
I wonder why there's a celestial, there's a sun Nika as luffy son of God and im sama is immortal that light at the dark as moon, one more thing why the fisherman is important I remember Poseidon why there's poseidon, it's a water, while the admiral has power of fruit but only garp has no fruit..the fruit are present of land, water, speed,light, dark, plants, air, wind, fire, ice and most is the immortality,,🤔and one thing I found why there's lunarian it's seems there's a something and about the one piece the skull 💀 the eye the object it's telescope 🤔 I feel like it's all about earth and the planets.... And about the laugh tale,, why could someone a person ate fruit will not survive on laugh tale but u see joy boy always laugh and also luffy 🤔
Betrayal seems to be a common thing in one piece 1. Whitebeard 2. Doflamingo 3. Kozuki Oden 4. Impel Down got betrayed (Sihryu) 5. Fisher Tiger 6. Kaido got betrayed by his daughter 7. Bundy wald 8. Rocks 9. Zefa etc..
Who betrayed Doffy? Do you mean Corazon? IMO all who could be considered having betrayed Doffy, never really had enough of his trust to call it a "betrayal" in the first place. Not a big issue, just wondering.
i like that but would if the human to giant science that ceaser and vagapunk have been working on existed in the advanced civilization and was used on zuesha, but theres also the common theory of joy boys awakening stretching zunesha
The op op fruit has the immortality surgery it’s only been used a hand full of times. Once for each of the 5 elders and 1 for Imu. And maybe even for Zunesha I think law will us it on luffy.
Naw, don't think that's how Ope Ope nomi works. . . An awakened T. Water D. law could use the immortal surgery to make **some one else** immortal, at the cost of his own life. . . . If Imu had the ope ope and used it. . . How does Law have it now? If Law could use the power to make himself immortal. . . Why not?
That would make sense if IM somehow got the person who had the ope-ope fruit at the time to sacrifice themselves to give IM immortality. But then this poses the question of how Law has the fruit because in order for the fruit to reappear the past user has to have passed.
Theory... It will be found out Imu was actually Joy Boy all along, his new Devil Fruit being the opposite of the Nika/Gum-Gum Devil Fruit, and having expelled the Nika fruit from his body to reenter the Devil Fruit chain for someone in the future to find. Or, possibly, Joy Boy was killed, causing the Nika Fruit to leave him, but was later revived, and took in the new fruit at a later point.
Legacy.The original Joy Boy left massages regarding his 800 years later. One of those messages was fish-Man Island and to poseidon, apologizing for breaking his, promise, and promising that someone would fullfill it in the future
Seeing the destruction on the one island reminded me of Ennis Lobby. The entire base had a sink hole that the ocean kept flowing in. Maybe that was created after that destruction occured. Also Water Seven has tides that keep rising. Does that mean that power has been going off many times against many nations? That us terrifying to think about.
What if luffys straw hat is important in a way to communicate with the soul of joy boy past that may be entrapped in the bigger version of the straw hat that’s frozen?
White beard is super unspecified during all of his statements so he said the pretty wide spanning thing of " your no the one he's waiting for" which is probably in reference but much like the line (to shanks) "just looking at you makes those scars ache" which we though was in reference to Rodger but maybe talking about someone else.
I've seen lots of people think that Imu was Joy Boy's Second in command, but I have my own theory. I think that Sanji has Lunarian DnA. This leads to who I think the left and right hand men of Joy Boy was his Right Hand Man was Ryuma, and his Left Hand Man was some Lunarien Joy Boy- Reincarnated as Luffy Ryuma- Related to Zoro (Family Tree) Lunarien- Same Species as Sanji And to take it another step further, I have an estimated gusse on his third commander, assuming it had the typical Yonko Commander Relationship. I think the 3rd Commander was also a fish-man but they played a similar role to Jinbe they had some sort of job or something so they could only assist Joy Boy for a certain amount of time then Joy Boy promised to come back hence his apology to the people of Fish Man Island (also Personally I think Zunash was the sort of Ship for Joy Boy but it would make more sense to be pluton or something)
Ryuma was stated officially to have lived around 400 years ago sadly, so that part of the theory is a bit muddy. But the theory on Sanji being part Lunarian is pretty neat. Could explain his Diable Jambe and ability to create fire with half his attacks in way we never thought of. Also maybe that's why he's a great cook, he subconsciously has great control of the flames while cooking and never knew it.
@@trollgasm how would he be lunarian when we have seen his mother and father not being lunarians nor it evern being stated that he has lunarian dna, like seraphims
@@MK-jz6gmSanji and his siblings were genetically modified by Judge so its possible. Could just be another scenario like Zoro and Ryuma being related, where it doesn’t actually get mentioned in the story, but could get revealed in a sbs or cover story at some point
When theyre eyes are like that it means they are connected with another person making them 2different people with the same mind we’ve seen joyboy; luffy even stated in his awakening that he is joyboy
I think imu was the founder of the kazuki clan and the vice captain of joyboy.If imu betrayed joyboy then gave zunesha his punishment zunesha would have to listen to imu considering imu was the vice captain.Also this would explain why zunesha listened momonosukes orders.
If Imu was weak at that time, there is no way she was vice captain, it definitely was Ryuma. Imu probably was low profile to betray Joyboy. Just like Blackbeard in white beard's crew was.
@@duanedoldrum7570 he was in fact the very definition of revolutionary as his very nature drew him to countries that were terrible and, upset the established hierarchy of power. As it really seems to be the devil fruit of someone like luffy who cant stand by while good people he likes are being hurt.
@@duanedoldrum7570 oh for sure that's a relatively new thing however I will say if he existed in modern one piece rather than as a figure from the viod century he would be a part of their faction as he's in direct opposition to tyrannical governments like the world government. I don't think he would be a pirate because he seems to be at peak levels of chaos for people to stil be talking about him 800 years old
Joyboy was not the owner of the hito hito no mi. The drums of liberation and the concept of Joyboy, is an experience, a being. Not a devil fruit. Joyboy originally had Laws devil fruit, and he was sacrificed for Imus sake, using the most powerful weapon to extend someone's life at the cost of their own. Luffy is Joyboy, but his fruit is irrelevant. A separate weapon. Now he has the will of Joyboy, and the hito hito no mi on top, causing him to be able to survive elbaf. Zunisha was never looking for the fruit.... He was looking for the drums of liberation. It may be, that you need both in order to adhere to the the drums of liberation. However, considering shanks consistency as a warlord, and his smile after Luffy ate the "gomu gomu" fruit makes us assume that this was no accident. From here on out... Who knows?
Imu is wife of Joy boy and betrayed Joy boy because of Power and wealth and afraid to be replace as queen when joyboy find another queen to replace Imu. Imu find it and help the 20 kingdom and told all the secret to defeat Joyboy and Zunesha including the devil fruit Tree that also give power to joyboy and the army founded by ImUsama. They use it to defeat joyboy and become head of new world. Imu also underwent the first immortality surgery and able to raise powerful army because they have the access in the devil fruit tree. Before joyboy died he command Zunesha to walk forever until he is once again reincarnate and as punishment by following Imusama and failed to defend his kingdom while Joyboy is away that cause of the defeat and fall of void kingdom. He instruct his friends in Wano to write all what happen in a unbreakable stone (poneglyphs) and knew what will happen in his kingdom soon and distribute it to all his good ally and friends before.
My theory is Imu have power to steal ability thats why he may have multiple power, one of them like control mind thats why zunesha had same eye like imu. Maybe Joy boy power its sealed and stolen by imu.
What happens if Lucy has 10 with joy boy having 12 members but jmu being Judas might have convinced someone to use a immortality operation on him if one of the crew memebers had the op-op fruit it’s a bit of a stretch though
If he was on Joyboys crew, he could have got his hands on a devil fruit that makes him immortal and prevented joy boy from keeping his promise to help fishman island.
I think Shanks will be the traitor. He was with Roger in Raftel but knew they were 20 years early. He also knew about the powers of the Gumgum fruit which is why he said to Luffy to return the hat once he is a great pirate. After Luffy's awakening (The return of JoyBoy), Shanks know it's the right time to go after the One Piece.
No I don't think so.. Shanks knew that Roger and his crew were 20 years early because Shanks used to be part of his crew.. but he wasn't able to join em because Buggy got sick so they had to stay at land and Roger came back for them after he went to Laughtale.. there he decided that they will disband.. Roger passed the strawhat to Shanks I believe it is Roger also passing the prophecy to Shanks.. and the prophecy said Joyboy would be born later on it means Shanks age has already passed that prophecy same as how Ace is born 3 years early so by the time Luffy ate the devil fruit he is Shanks best bet of becoming Joyboy as Luffy is also a D. Nika's fruit chooses it's eater so it's prolly the reason why in the span of 800 years nobody was able to awaken its full power.. However some say that Shanks has a twin that was left with the World Gov.. so if that's true he could be the main villain..
You have to re-read or re-watch brother because shanks never made it to laugh tale. Shanks stayed behind to take care of a sick buggy, you know because they’re great pals and all. Even buggy has said it many times that he never has been to laugh tale.
Joy boy is luffy all along. At the end of op, luffy used toki df power to travel back to 800 years ago for the great war. And he failed his goal. The timeline just keep recycling. But this time for sure luffy will complete his goal.
@@muuz6578travelling past maybe the awakening of toki power that Toki never awakened.....since toki died 20 years ago, some one much stronger has the devil fruit
No it can't be Luffy because he started young in this story 😂 if he Time traveled this story should've started with a full grown Luffy same as Momo and the other wano guys..
i think IM really betrayed joy boy that is why when joy boy died he got the fruit and kept it guarded since he is afraid of its power but unfortunately shanks attacked and stole the fruit hence IM got angry and imprisoned the guardian of the fruit at impel down
I dont know… the elders said that they were never able to actually get a hold of the fruit, that it elude them for centuries. I feel that means that in 800 years the closest they got to actually have it was right when Shanks stole it
i have a theory too that imu was the 1st holder of dark dark fruit and use it to fight joyboy, since joyboy was so powerful at that time I reckon that only the dark dark fruit is able to negate joyboy's advantage in power but imu was weaker than joyboy therefore although imu killed joyboy imu also paid his/her life but was saved by the user of op op fruit by performing the forbidden surgery on imu, so imu now is an immortal being but lost the fruit in the process that's why we see imu holding the bounty of blackboard coz imu knows teach has the dark dark fruit and maybe plans to kill teach to get back the fruit.
I think ryuma is the Vice Captain of Joy boy, Every pirates king has a Swordsman as vice captain, Roger with Rayleigh and Luffy with Zoro so I think ryuma might be the vice captain of joy boy
I think Imu is a female ruler who was a former friend and "lover" of Joy Boy. Joy Boy tried to bring the world together and bring equality and freedom. However, Imu has a cynical view of the world and believes corruption and evil will always exist. Therefore, she overthrew the Ancient Kingdom and built the World Government alongside the Gorosei and the 20 Kingdoms. However, she is still bitter and sad for betraying Joy Boy similar to how Judas regretted betraying Jesus. Knowing it was too late, Imu continued her plans to build the World Government as well as both the Marines and Cipher Pol. Imu feels similar to Darth Vader as both are sad, bitter dark rulers who are always conflicted with their tyrannical actions. Oda always made his villains' backstories tragic so I am curious how he will handle or maybe he already wrote Imu's backstory. There are fictional stories of magical races like mermaids, elves, and angels looking down on humanity and ignoring their suffering. This backfired when humanity used its technologically advanced societies to attack the magical races. This would lead to humanity developing discriminatory beliefs against the magical races and also making efforts to sell them into slavery. I would compare Imu to Anakin Skywalker's fall to Darth Vader who sought to make everything better but only made things worse in the end by helping to create a totalitarian empire (World Government).
@@KingCalamity11 Nah man. I don't think this is generic. And even if we say it was; objectively, almost all possible story paths ever have been done before and can be called "generic". How many times did we have the "evil ruler, Straw Hats dun wanna be hero, but Straw Hats wanna save cuz friendship and freedom" plot by now? It's not that Oda shy's away from ""generic"" plots. Over years of consuming media, I have personally found that sometimes, a super clishée plot that you have seen thousands of times, can be so much more enjoyable than a plot trying too hard to be "original". All it takes are a few very minor yet impactful twists to the formula - while it can still follow the same main plot - and, most of all, a genius execution. I think that's exactly what One Piece excels at. And to this theory in particular: At least the idea that IMU is female seems pretty likely to me by now. The shilouette could suggest Imu having long hair, and also (SPOILER for second-to-last manga chapter as of writing:) ... we have also gotten the big focus on the relationship between Imu and Alabasta's Nefeltari Lily. We know that Imu is a ruler of some long forgotten founding father nation. Maybe Imu and Lily were mortal enemies. Either that, or they were deep bonded friends with a tragic relationship, that turned to hatred. Somehow, I'd guess that Lily ended up wanting to do something, that Imu couldn't let happen - possibly even connected to whatever lead to the void century being just that - a void - and Imu had to take her out in secret. Or Imu took her away to protect her, because they were ACTUALLY on very good terms and Lily's still alive somewhere. Now that doesn't really add to Imu being female, I honestly got way off track and just went with it because I liked my train of thought, lol.
It's obvious that Joy Boy is literally Luffy. In a later arc Luffy will travel back in time and will become the individual known as 'Joy Boy'. He writes down all of his experiences on 'Laugh Tale' island where Gol D Roger reads about the adventures of Luffy and laughs, wishing he could meet Joy Boy (i.e. Luffy) 20 years later. The mysterious straw hat in possession of the world government is actually Luffy's hat from the future. The void century is the big final war between Luffy and the world government King back in the past. You can like this post in 3 years time when you realize what i wrote is true.
There is a lot of evidence suggesting otherwise, like the straw hat in Imu's freezer being massive, not like Luffy's. However the main reason I don't think this is the case is that a time travel story like this would be very silly and wouldn't really make sense in the first place.
@@petym9827 well for the following reasons 1) the series has already demonstrated that some form of time travel is possible 2) the mysterious void century has been the central theme since the beginning of the series, it would be boring if the big reveal at the end was that it was something unrelated to Luffy and his team, it would be counter productive to good storytelling. 3) Gol D Roger and his pirates would not be laughing so much in the final island unless they discovered a story so funny and incredible, which can only be the adventures of Luffy. Otherwise again it would not be relatable to the audience if we finally reach the island and find something "else" that is funny. 4) Gol D Roger allowed himself to be captured at the end because he already knew this was what he was supposed to do, because the story he found in Laugh Tale island would have mentioned that Luffy was inspired by Gol D Rogers last words. 5) Silver Rayleigh already knew who Luffy was when they first met. 6) and of course all the other hints given connecting "joy boy" to Luffy. Also respectfully I don't think it would make the story silly for them to travel back in time. If you check other forums and even some very popular influencer channels on youtu be which made very similar predictions as mine, the feedback was overwhelmingly positive with most people commenting that this would be an amazing twist. Check TH-cam. Finally regarding the big hat. We have to see what happens, he might power up in the final arc to the size of a giant or something else that we have yet to see. But certainly that the straw hat has a link to the void century is another big clue. In any case we will find out in a few years
@@samwats7892 bro ur theory suk asss* u really think the author wrote all these chapters just to end the biggest mystery to time travel related storyline ,it would be so wacky. In 3 years if this become true I will officially change my name to whatever u want.
How about Zunesha is somehow responsible for the destruction of the Minks’ original home? So he takes it upon himself to carry the Minks around to atone for his crime until Joy Boy returns. Possibly to put the Minks down in their new homeland.
i like this
nah bro killed most of the population ain't no way they weren't home 💀
What about The one piece island being the original homeland of the minks, but had to evacuate or IM wiped there memory... Man.. 😁 Loving this story sofar.
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Awesome theory 👍 I love this too.
I am so glad that the one piece story finally catches some steam. I grew up with it, when first it was released. Now i am almost 30 and we are finally getting somewhere lol
Bruh you tellin me like I could have my own kids before this shit finishes and I was born when the first anime episode was released
Sogeking?
I think if there was a traitor in Joyboy's crew it would be Blackbeard's ancestor
If u notice in one piece they have so many tribe, species, type of people such as giant, two joint bone, long leg, mermaid/merman, human, demi human, dwarf probably joy boy legacy is united all tribe, species, type or people just like luffy does which he enter island will become united and work together like alabasta, ryugu kingdom(fishman island), dressrosa
Joyboy's apology letter (the Poneglyph in the Fishman island) to Poseidon isnt because he did something bad , but because Luffy will destroy the Grand line and the Fishman island (which is located under the Grand line) in order to achieve his dream.
He will destroy the red line using pluton which will destryot the fishmen too, so fishmen has to use noah with the help of poseidon to command the seakings to lift the noah to relocate at the surface, once red line was destroyed, all blue will appear coz it will be the mix of all seas.
@@johncarlosjaner5644HOLY SHIT WE THINK ALIKE. i posted the below in another joyboy video somewhere
so after rewatching one piece. i made up a theory… at madam shyarly’s prophecy is a prophecy that will happen in the far future not during fishmen island arc, luffy will destroy marie jois along with the red line with his gear 6 giant gomu gomu no island destroyer. this in turn will destroy discrimination and fishmen island (red line giant boulders will fall onto the island destroying it since the island is next to the red line), the fishmens will be able to use noah to move to the surface. And guess what? since red line is destroyed, ALL BLUE WILL HAPPEN.
@@johncarlosjaner5644yea I thinks thats how it is gonna happen
That falls in line with the prophecy that Luffy would destroy fishman island
@@johncarlosjaner5644 I like the theory
There possibly will be no other story like One Piece............. *ever* ! This has been the most non - linear mind warping plot one would ever get to read. It keeps one guessing till the end ! 🙏 Respects to Oda San for this gift.
Nothing to guess about its simple writing Joyboy was the first pirate the first person to inspire people to stand up to the original 20 kings of the world government why nobody aloud to now about the void century aka history to avoid. He was the original holder of the God God model Nika.
oda actually is toki version. he use his DF to this world
@@tayhorsley404 u mean human human fruit model nika
@@kinglighty8088 yeah that Japanese audio of it but English reads God God model Nika, like Sengoku reads ancient zone God God model Nika but sub is not always accurate why going learn full Japanese and go back through hole Naruto and One piece animes.
True one piece and hxh are two legends
Oda: "oh you found it, I will change it then"
i think the poeple of d were the crewmates of joyboy
they were considerd natural enemies of celestial dragons
and they were feared of d name
( monkey , gol , marshall , jaguar , neftari , trafalgar , portgas and rocs ) 8 members
This actually makes sense 🤔
you forgot Eustass
@@JojozbizI don’t think captian kid has the D I’ve never saw it mentioned in the show
@@Jojozbizeustass doesn't belong to the D
Yea it's true btw
Toki died riddled with Beast Pirates' arrows, not "during the deconstruction of Oden's castle", which by the way is a funny way to describe Kaido's absolute carnage.
I think the crew has to do with the d so i assume that the crew memebers of the 1st joyboy must be,the 1st monkey on the family tree,gol,Portgas,Marshal,Trafalgar along with the all of the names of the D members that we arent aware of.
one thing is obvious about IM that he got someone with op op no mi (trafalgars power ) to turn him immortal , in return the power user dies . this fruit was also on his radar along with nika
Why is this obvious?
I don't think imu is a he tho
Possibility that imu also caused a crew mate to sacrifice himself to perform the immortality on himself
Very Possible like trafalgar law fruit can make someone imortal
my theory is that imu was a comrade of joyboy or perhaps in his crew or something else because that would foreshadow blackbeard joining whitebeard crew but then betraying and killing him might've happened to joyboy
Wife
I can't wait to see that joy boy flashback or if Luffy goes back to see him. Would be dope since it was more advanced back then. Remind me of star wars.
Oda is a star wars fan
Idea: Joyboy and Imu were working together to destroy the ancient kingdom that dominated the world with their Lunarian technology. Joyboy gathered 20 kingdoms together to dethrone this evil kingdom that ruled the world and liberate everyone.
But when they had finished destroying the evil kingdom and scattered the Lunarians all around the world, Imu betrayed Joyboy probably because she still wanted to get revenge on the Lunarians while he just wanted freedom for everyone even the Luinarians. He died and was unable to finish his promise to give freedom to the fishmen.
Imu went on to control the 20 kings and found the world government, to fill the vacuum the ancient kingdom left behind likely just to keep order only for the WG to descend into the depravity and coruption that they initially rose to overthrow.
Have we been watching the same anime???
The Lunarian's lived on top of the Red Line not in the ancient Empire.
It is most likely that the Great Empire was the home of the Clan of D and Joy Boy was allied with them.
The ancient Weapons were made to destroy the Red Line so that the whole world come become One. Aka One Piece and that plan is most likley the One Piece treasure doesn't need to be gold or gems it can be an ideal.
Imu and the 20 kingdoms probably rejected the idea of losing the power when the world all became equal and that is why they went to war with Joy Boy and the Clan of D. (Im pretty sure that Imu was part of Joy Boy's crew and that is how they won due to his help)
Mybe she is his Daughter 😂
its not a she ffs , we dont know yet
@@invoke4485 i think joyboy was also a D, maybe imu wanted to overthrow him or something
@@lelouchvibritannia8997 Ya, I think Joyboy was probably the founder of the Family of D and maybe Imu was the 2nd in charge.
I won't lie I can't see what Imu's end game is. It sorta feels like she doesn't have one.
The 16 beams of light remind me of the ultimate technique Dolfamingo used against Luffy the 16 holy threads.
Foreshadow watch one piece clip by clip oda been giving us hints but they’re almost impossible to comprehend
I’d say the ancestral weapon pluton is like a giant turtle carrying Wano in her back, and it needs 4 giant elephants to move or shoot something, just like the world turtle model, but zunesha disobeyed the ancient pluton commander (who nowadays is momonosuke) and disbanded the weapon, because of this, pluton got useless so the ancient kingdom lost the war against the 20 kingdoms. That’s Zunesha crime . And the other 3 elephants are walking in circles., making a triangle between them, that would explain the Florian triangle mist (just like zunesha’s) and the 3 big shadows at the end of thriller bark.
Nice theory 👍 The Turtle with a mountain on back seems very similar to the *Samudra Manthan* (Churning of the Milky Ocean) event where the Devas (Angels/Gods) and Asuras (Demi - Gods/Demonic beings but not biblical demons) use Sarpa Raj (King of Serpents and Nagas) Vasuki Naga to rotate mountain Mandrachala to churn the ocean and Lord Sri MahaVishnu takes the form of a Kurma (Tortoise/Turtle) to hold the entire mountain steady on his back so the two parties can carry out their job 🙏🕉 This connection of Japanese manga and anime with South and Southeast Asian mythology is just awesome. Previously the "Bajrang Gun" where Lord Hanuman is called Bajrang (Bajra/Vajra meaning the Thunderbolt weapon of Indra and Anga - meaning body - Body made of Thunderbolt or metaphorically - an insanely strong body that is invincible) 🙏 Just awesome.
@@TheB657 I didn’t know any of that, thank you so much, It complemented the theory as well
Hasn't it already been confirmed that Pluton is a powerful ship?
Sick theory actually. That's what's great about One Piece
@Louis Peeters more or less, it was a blueprint of some sort that shipwrights can build. So most likely, but that doesn't mean this couldnt apply for a different ancient weapon
I think imu was in joy boys time but I don’t think it will be as simple as imu being on the crew and betraying them. It being one piece it’s gonna be a lot more complicated than that in a good way
My theory is Imu was in the previous Joy Boy time period. Imu had some use the Ope Ope fruits eternal youth on them. Imu wanted to change history to their liking, so. Imu took control of everything. I have a theory that Imu achieved what Rocks was trying to achieve
exactly ! imu was in joyboys crew ... just look again at this video's thumbnail ..u can easily guess who she might me
and to my opinion, imu, joyboy, zunesha, the one piece and the void century really makes a real mystery.
Fun theory idk maybe u fill find something guys:
So if Imu the leader of world government want's to keep the Hito Hito no mi model nika with himself/herself.
It's same as luffy wanted to keep the Mera Mera no mi to never anyone eat that for ace memory,
what about that when Joyboy was in his prime, he somehow dies or getting killed and his crewmate/bestfriend Imu wanted to do the same for himself to not give them her memory of the best time and the fruit of friend, when luffy saw that Sabo is still alive he knew Sabo his brother will be a good keeper for that cause he even saw much and have much Ace in him, maybe Imu did same, she feeled the one who will be the king of pirates and rule the world will be Luffy, she/he filled it so she lower guard or just let the fruit decide who will be the next JoyBoy and saw luffy, she/he didn't killed him cause saw him "Worthy" to be next joyboy the best man alive who will unite the world once again, If she wont be sure she can easily Destroy him if she was really JoyBoy's crewmate, (crazy theory : maybe she even tried to search for a new joyboy earlier and let fruit chose but she don't see any worthy to be him again so she somehow made them die and protect fruit again) back to main thing i think Imu let fruit decide and she/he knews it will go to the right person, She/he test luffy giving him harder challanges as fighting marines etc but not forcing him to awaken without right time, luffy awaken and it's confirmed that JoyBoy returned, Imu even have the old straw hat that JoyBoy used as the Stone Decoration or just like real hat covered in dust as memorial for him, i don't know how this will end but im so fucking hyped lads. I don't think Imu was traitor i think if traitor will be still here he will dominate and rule the world make collosal terror to all land, And i think all blue divided by Other joyboy's crewmates to not let anyone make chaos in the whole world again. It's just my theory im just a fan and it's my
subjective opinion.
Maybe Zunesha is using a unique elephant zoan and is actually in punishment by staying in that form to keep Zou hidden.
Giant elephant zoan
since joyboys devil fruit can make things bigger, maybe this had something to do with it?
That would be ironic since it was attacked by Jack who has a Mammoth Ancient Zoan
Maybe his a devil fruit eater a giant fruit and operation in law fruit for immortality but
Then why the need of "Voice of all things" to listen to Zunesha ??
Reason why OP is the best anime in history, because of many mysteries.
If joyboy returns shessh Soo hype that since
He’s alr returned bro
he is back wdym
ALL KNOWN, followed by "i believe they were crewmates" for every single one, kek
I think the people carrying the name of D are a PirateCrew.
They all have to much pride to work with each other they’d rather be powerhouses on their own or captains nothing less than that
What if Toki has sent joyboy in future…. And will appear in near future….. that’s why roger said they were early…. And raftel and one piece has to do something with it like raftel is place where joyboy will appear
My personal opinion is the Oda planned the entire plot up to Wano to misguide the readers and theorists and later from the Egg head onwards is going to be the real One Piece. Hence he realized his dream to make a story that would keep millions guessing around the world and one that people would hit their heads to crack the mystery and know the truth. Till Wano and even till Egg head that has been very much established. Now he also mentioned One Piece is a thing and probably my thought is from the manga that Roger already revealed the One Piece and people just skipping it 'maybe' ...... The fact that he mentions : *Oh What a Treasure you have left behind Joy Boy ! A Tale Full of Laughs ! and then he laughs away simulataneously.* So from this it is possible that the last piece of the 'puzzle' or truth regarding the One Piece world culminated in the last Poneglyph what they call "Rio Poneglyph" ??! sitting on Laugh Tale (if I heard it correctly - other than the rest of the 9 along the Grand Line), was probably the One Piece of the Puzzle narrating the entire history of the World and the Void Century and that was a Tale of Laughs. So...... yep I guess that was the One Piece and Oda San clearly mentioned that when the crew found the One Piece - the story ends there ! So it must be the Tale of Laughs and all the other incidents and revelations to occur prior to it. Whether Luffy travels back in time or not is all probably done prior to discovery of the One Piece and Luffy (if this is the case) knew he wrote it and it will end in a tale of laughs and *Joy* thus attesting the existence of Joy Boy and Freedom. My theory 🙌 Can be wrong on many accounts. Feel free to criticize.
Oda has gone on record to say the One Piece is a physical object
@@aXentOG Exactly 👍 That's why I have mentioned "One piece is 'thing' " as mentioned by Oda himself and that physical object could well be the final poneglyph or the Rio Poneglyph. As I did read that this final cubical stone slab with inscriptions does sit on the island of 'Laugh tale' (previously called Rafftel - which may be the capital of the ancient kingdom). My surmise is thus because all that the Roger Pirates did was laugh and party around - did or could they bring back any tangible object ? No. Hence it must be something rooted to the spot that can only be experienced on location. Hence I called the Rio Poneglyph as One Piece. However, if I heard/read it wrong and the Rio Poneglyph sits on some other island or place like the Lodestar island (last island on the Grand Line), then my surmise falls flat right there. That's what I need confirmation for. Ciao ! 👋
What if the one piece is one piece of history lol
I wonder why there's a celestial, there's a sun Nika as luffy son of God and im sama is immortal that light at the dark as moon, one more thing why the fisherman is important I remember Poseidon why there's poseidon, it's a water, while the admiral has power of fruit but only garp has no fruit..the fruit are present of land, water, speed,light, dark, plants, air, wind, fire, ice and most is the immortality,,🤔and one thing I found why there's lunarian it's seems there's a something and about the one piece the skull 💀 the eye the object it's telescope 🤔 I feel like it's all about earth and the planets.... And about the laugh tale,, why could someone a person ate fruit will not survive on laugh tale but u see joy boy always laugh and also luffy 🤔
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Betrayal seems to be a common thing in one piece
1. Whitebeard
2. Doflamingo
3. Kozuki Oden
4. Impel Down got betrayed (Sihryu)
5. Fisher Tiger
6. Kaido got betrayed by his daughter
7. Bundy wald
8. Rocks
9. Zefa
etc..
Luffy will be betrayed by zoro
Who betrayed Doffy? Do you mean Corazon? IMO all who could be considered having betrayed Doffy, never really had enough of his trust to call it a "betrayal" in the first place. Not a big issue, just wondering.
I mean Robin said it best they’re pirates they’ll betray you
@@S0JA69so you have chosen death ☠️
@@shuvamacharya8001 the truth is always bitter and hard to digest
i think zunesha is a devil fruit user giant that got the operation from the op op no mi.
This is a more valid theory.
i like that but would if the human to giant science that ceaser and vagapunk have been working on existed in the advanced civilization and was used on zuesha, but theres also the common theory of joy boys awakening stretching zunesha
Oda already confirmed in a sbs that zunesha is an ancient species of elephant.
The op op fruit has the immortality surgery it’s only been used a hand full of times. Once for each of the 5 elders and 1 for Imu. And maybe even for Zunesha I think law will us it on luffy.
Maybe Im Sama is the original user of the Ope-Ope fruit from Trafalgar D. law and used it to become immortal.
Naw, don't think that's how Ope Ope nomi works. . .
An awakened T. Water D. law could use the immortal surgery to make **some one else** immortal, at the cost of his own life. . . .
If Imu had the ope ope and used it. . . How does Law have it now?
If Law could use the power to make himself immortal. . . Why not?
That would make sense if IM somehow got the person who had the ope-ope fruit at the time to sacrifice themselves to give IM immortality. But then this poses the question of how Law has the fruit because in order for the fruit to reappear the past user has to have passed.
the user would be the one who had the fruit and used it to sacrifice himself as you have mentionned it. That's the point.@@user-ev6ur2xb8l
Those yellow eyes look like the number 1 swordsmans to.
I like to think that zunesha is joy boys san juan wolf
I find that hard to believe man that emu and joyboy were buddy buddy and rocks was part of their crew so close man so close
So your saying rocks was over 800+ years old 😂
@@1PARFAIT7 you saw him in the vid
Rocks was not part of the joyboy crew lol. 800 years apart😂
@@juanpaolosalazar3029 then why is his face in the begingign of the vid
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 it is just a thumbnail of the vid.
god knows what oda was smoking when he came up with such a story... mindblowing
Theory...
It will be found out Imu was actually Joy Boy all along, his new Devil Fruit being the opposite of the Nika/Gum-Gum Devil Fruit, and having expelled the Nika fruit from his body to reenter the Devil Fruit chain for someone in the future to find.
Or, possibly, Joy Boy was killed, causing the Nika Fruit to leave him, but was later revived, and took in the new fruit at a later point.
Legacy.The original Joy Boy left massages regarding his 800 years later. One of those messages was fish-Man Island and to poseidon, apologizing for breaking his, promise, and promising that someone would fullfill it in the future
I want a massage from Joy boy
Seeing the destruction on the one island reminded me of Ennis Lobby. The entire base had a sink hole that the ocean kept flowing in. Maybe that was created after that destruction occured.
Also Water Seven has tides that keep rising. Does that mean that power has been going off many times against many nations?
That us terrifying to think about.
What if luffys straw hat is important in a way to communicate with the soul of joy boy past that may be entrapped in the bigger version of the straw hat that’s frozen?
that is why whitebeard said during marineford arc that "blackbeard d. teach is not the one gold d. roger been waiting" but it's luffy
White beard is super unspecified during all of his statements so he said the pretty wide spanning thing of " your no the one he's waiting for" which is probably in reference but much like the line (to shanks) "just looking at you makes those scars ache" which we though was in reference to Rodger but maybe talking about someone else.
Nice Video. Greetings from Germany
I've seen lots of people think that Imu was Joy Boy's Second in command, but I have my own theory. I think that Sanji has Lunarian DnA. This leads to who I think the left and right hand men of Joy Boy was his Right Hand Man was Ryuma, and his Left Hand Man was some Lunarien
Joy Boy- Reincarnated as Luffy
Ryuma- Related to Zoro (Family Tree)
Lunarien- Same Species as Sanji
And to take it another step further, I have an estimated gusse on his third commander, assuming it had the typical Yonko Commander Relationship. I think the 3rd Commander was also a fish-man but they played a similar role to Jinbe they had some sort of job or something so they could only assist Joy Boy for a certain amount of time then Joy Boy promised to come back hence his apology to the people of Fish Man Island (also Personally I think Zunash was the sort of Ship for Joy Boy but it would make more sense to be pluton or something)
Ryuma lived 300 years ago so unless he died and had a kid when he was 500 I don't think that he was the right hand man.
Nah ryuma wasnt even around back then
Ryuma was stated officially to have lived around 400 years ago sadly, so that part of the theory is a bit muddy.
But the theory on Sanji being part Lunarian is pretty neat. Could explain his Diable Jambe and ability to create fire with half his attacks in way we never thought of. Also maybe that's why he's a great cook, he subconsciously has great control of the flames while cooking and never knew it.
@@trollgasm how would he be lunarian when we have seen his mother and father not being lunarians nor it evern being stated that he has lunarian dna, like seraphims
@@MK-jz6gmSanji and his siblings were genetically modified by Judge so its possible. Could just be another scenario like Zoro and Ryuma being related, where it doesn’t actually get mentioned in the story, but could get revealed in a sbs or cover story at some point
We know how white beard got betrayed 2 times then killed by his betrayer
This is interesting, at first I thought Joy Boy was from the Kozuki clan himself but this makes more sense
What if the world government actually a pirate group😂😂😂
İta possible they rule as pirates
I've been long thinking about that😂
He talked about that eyes of Zunesha and Im...
I think he's right, looking at luffy's Gear 5 right now
When theyre eyes are like that it means they are connected with another person making them 2different people with the same mind we’ve seen joyboy; luffy even stated in his awakening that he is joyboy
All of a sudden everyone knows about joyboy thought it was supposed to be new
I think imu was the founder of the kazuki clan and the vice captain of joyboy.If imu betrayed joyboy then gave zunesha his punishment zunesha would have to listen to imu considering imu was the vice captain.Also this would explain why zunesha listened momonosukes orders.
also luffy can hear it
I think you need some sleep
If Imu was weak at that time, there is no way she was vice captain, it definitely was Ryuma. Imu probably was low profile to betray Joyboy. Just like Blackbeard in white beard's crew was.
Shittiest theory ever
@@animequeen8254 ryuma was alive 300 years ago
Zunesha was punished to keep on walking since a crew or something promised zunesha they’ll defeat these people but they failed so he got punished.
Joy boy wasnt even a pirate though. He was a revolutionary. And, theoretically existed before the void century.
He’s not a revolutionary either, he was just another ordinary person.
@@duanedoldrum7570 he was in fact the very definition of revolutionary as his very nature drew him to countries that were terrible and, upset the established hierarchy of power. As it really seems to be the devil fruit of someone like luffy who cant stand by while good people he likes are being hurt.
@@joshuareynolds23 By definition, perhaps. But I meant to point that he’s not a Revolutionary by faction.
@@duanedoldrum7570 oh for sure that's a relatively new thing however I will say if he existed in modern one piece rather than as a figure from the viod century he would be a part of their faction as he's in direct opposition to tyrannical governments like the world government. I don't think he would be a pirate because he seems to be at peak levels of chaos for people to stil be talking about him 800 years old
Joyboy was not the owner of the hito hito no mi. The drums of liberation and the concept of Joyboy, is an experience, a being. Not a devil fruit. Joyboy originally had Laws devil fruit, and he was sacrificed for Imus sake, using the most powerful weapon to extend someone's life at the cost of their own. Luffy is Joyboy, but his fruit is irrelevant. A separate weapon. Now he has the will of Joyboy, and the hito hito no mi on top, causing him to be able to survive elbaf. Zunisha was never looking for the fruit.... He was looking for the drums of liberation. It may be, that you need both in order to adhere to the the drums of liberation. However, considering shanks consistency as a warlord, and his smile after Luffy ate the "gomu gomu" fruit makes us assume that this was no accident. From here on out... Who knows?
Imu is wife of Joy boy and betrayed Joy boy because of Power and wealth and afraid to be replace as queen when joyboy find another queen to replace Imu. Imu find it and help the 20 kingdom and told all the secret to defeat Joyboy and Zunesha including the devil fruit Tree that also give power to joyboy and the army founded by ImUsama. They use it to defeat joyboy and become head of new world. Imu also underwent the first immortality surgery and able to raise powerful army because they have the access in the devil fruit tree. Before joyboy died he command Zunesha to walk forever until he is once again reincarnate and as punishment by following Imusama and failed to defend his kingdom while Joyboy is away that cause of the defeat and fall of void kingdom. He instruct his friends in Wano to write all what happen in a unbreakable stone (poneglyphs) and knew what will happen in his kingdom soon and distribute it to all his good ally and friends before.
How true is this?? Because oda can never leak so much info
Imu is a man 😐
@@JayFallow girl not a man
@@Lakerionhow do u know?
But Joy Boy is reincarnated. And Zunesha knows that. Yet Zunesha still keeps walking.
Y’all Remember that picture of that beautiful lady sanji found in that underground underwater ship pre time skip with a pic of cap John
I have another interesting Theory what if zunisha was actually Joy Boys pet
My theory is Imu have power to steal ability thats why he may have multiple power, one of them like control mind thats why zunesha had same eye like imu. Maybe Joy boy power its sealed and stolen by imu.
Then why didnt imu steal sabos powers
How is this possible you posted this video a year ago , and you have pic of recent sabo incident of destroying an island???
What happens if Lucy has 10 with joy boy having 12 members but jmu being Judas might have convinced someone to use a immortality operation on him if one of the crew memebers had the op-op fruit it’s a bit of a stretch though
Bink from Bink's sake should be on his crew too.
I think luffy travelled time and was known as joyboy back then
Imagine a big plot twist of imu joining luffy knowing he is joyboy which is why she's been saving the big straw hat that would be crazy
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Yea that’s probably also why imu has been annihilating different islands with thousands of people living on them
But at the same time, there was a glimpse of a scene where IM was standing in front of Luffy's bounty poster with a knife stabbed into it
If he was on Joyboys crew, he could have got his hands on a devil fruit that makes him immortal and prevented joy boy from keeping his promise to help fishman island.
Nice!
I think Shanks will be the traitor. He was with Roger in Raftel but knew they were 20 years early. He also knew about the powers of the Gumgum fruit which is why he said to Luffy to return the hat once he is a great pirate. After Luffy's awakening (The return of JoyBoy), Shanks know it's the right time to go after the One Piece.
No I don't think so.. Shanks knew that Roger and his crew were 20 years early because Shanks used to be part of his crew.. but he wasn't able to join em because Buggy got sick so they had to stay at land and Roger came back for them after he went to Laughtale.. there he decided that they will disband.. Roger passed the strawhat to Shanks I believe it is Roger also passing the prophecy to Shanks.. and the prophecy said Joyboy would be born later on it means Shanks age has already passed that prophecy same as how Ace is born 3 years early so by the time Luffy ate the devil fruit he is Shanks best bet of becoming Joyboy as Luffy is also a D. Nika's fruit chooses it's eater so it's prolly the reason why in the span of 800 years nobody was able to awaken its full power..
However some say that Shanks has a twin that was left with the World Gov.. so if that's true he could be the main villain..
Nah bro, theres many possibilities but not this one
Quick note: he wasn't with Roger. He was with Buggy who got sick and didn't go to Raftel.
I think Shanks manipulating everyone for greater good.
You have to re-read or re-watch brother because shanks never made it to laugh tale. Shanks stayed behind to take care of a sick buggy, you know because they’re great pals and all. Even buggy has said it many times that he never has been to laugh tale.
Bro baited us with a silhouette of rocks D xebec 😂
Zunesha is a pet of joyboy like chopper ok now you understands if chopper is luffy and joy is with zunesha😁
i think zunesha was joyboy ship or something like that.
I feel like for em to be that old someone who had the Op Op fruit preformed the immortality surgery on him
Joy boy is luffy all along. At the end of op, luffy used toki df power to travel back to 800 years ago for the great war. And he failed his goal. The timeline just keep recycling. But this time for sure luffy will complete his goal.
if i remember right toki specifically mentioned that you cant travel back in time, past is already written, you can only go to future. so no.
@@muuz6578travelling past maybe the awakening of toki power that Toki never awakened.....since toki died 20 years ago, some one much stronger has the devil fruit
No it can't be Luffy because he started young in this story 😂 if he Time traveled this story should've started with a full grown Luffy same as Momo and the other wano guys..
I think that Imu didnt steal everything from Joyboy. Thats what the One Piece is, the thing Imu wants and needs to be sure he can never be overthrown
Legit video. Agree
Meanwhile Oda is 🤔
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Did I planned such things 😅🧐
is it me or dragonS tatoo feels like the reason he can control whether so he might be the navigator of Joyboys crew
Joyboy is luffy going back in the past
The hat is from a giant. It can't be and will not be luffy
i think IM really betrayed joy boy that is why when joy boy died he got the fruit and kept it guarded since he is afraid of its power but unfortunately shanks attacked and stole the fruit hence IM got angry and imprisoned the guardian of the fruit at impel down
I dont know… the elders said that they were never able to actually get a hold of the fruit, that it elude them for centuries. I feel that means that in 800 years the closest they got to actually have it was right when Shanks stole it
Imu is mostly interest in luffy because he is a definition of joy boy like he has the straw hat and the fruit
i have a theory too that imu was the 1st holder of dark dark fruit and use it to fight joyboy, since joyboy was so powerful at that time I reckon that only the dark dark fruit is able to negate joyboy's advantage in power but imu was weaker than joyboy therefore although imu killed joyboy imu also paid his/her life but was saved by the user of op op fruit by performing the forbidden surgery on imu, so imu now is an immortal being but lost the fruit in the process that's why we see imu holding the bounty of blackboard coz imu knows teach has the dark dark fruit and maybe plans to kill teach to get back the fruit.
Sogeking is the sniper of joyboy👀
Imagine if the secret weapon is an army of Garp... lol the bean is like the one punch of garp .. imagine the destructive power.
I want them to do some flashbacks of Tokis life starting in her original time
Luffy said that he just wants 10 crew members when he starts his journey.
"at least 10 members"
I think ryuma is the Vice Captain of Joy boy, Every pirates king has a Swordsman as vice captain, Roger with Rayleigh and Luffy with Zoro so I think ryuma might be the vice captain of joy boy
Ryuma lived 400 years ago,not 800
@@adee6467he might have time traveled with toki' fruit
@@playwell_4lifetoki’s df power can only transport people to the future not to the past
@@executioner_501
That's what he's saying. He's saying Ryuma traveled forward in time.
luffies true dream - I want a family that will never leave me, and i want to be able to protect them not throw them into a forest full of wolves
"Deconstruction of oden castle" you mean when it burned down?
So was this title a click bait title since you li regally said you don’t know who was in joyboys crew?
I think Imu is a female ruler who was a former friend and "lover" of Joy Boy. Joy Boy tried to bring the world together and bring equality and freedom. However, Imu has a cynical view of the world and believes corruption and evil will always exist. Therefore, she overthrew the Ancient Kingdom and built the World Government alongside the Gorosei and the 20 Kingdoms. However, she is still bitter and sad for betraying Joy Boy similar to how Judas regretted betraying Jesus. Knowing it was too late, Imu continued her plans to build the World Government as well as both the Marines and Cipher Pol. Imu feels similar to Darth Vader as both are sad, bitter dark rulers who are always conflicted with their tyrannical actions. Oda always made his villains' backstories tragic so I am curious how he will handle or maybe he already wrote Imu's backstory. There are fictional stories of magical races like mermaids, elves, and angels looking down on humanity and ignoring their suffering. This backfired when humanity used its technologically advanced societies to attack the magical races. This would lead to humanity developing discriminatory beliefs against the magical races and also making efforts to sell them into slavery. I would compare Imu to Anakin Skywalker's fall to Darth Vader who sought to make everything better but only made things worse in the end by helping to create a totalitarian empire (World Government).
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"lover" what a dumb idea
@@musashi542 Nawl shit sounds smart asf
@@Lakerionmost generic thing I’ve ever seen, doesn’t fit one piece at all
@@KingCalamity11 Nah man. I don't think this is generic. And even if we say it was; objectively, almost all possible story paths ever have been done before and can be called "generic". How many times did we have the "evil ruler, Straw Hats dun wanna be hero, but Straw Hats wanna save cuz friendship and freedom" plot by now? It's not that Oda shy's away from ""generic"" plots. Over years of consuming media, I have personally found that sometimes, a super clishée plot that you have seen thousands of times, can be so much more enjoyable than a plot trying too hard to be "original". All it takes are a few very minor yet impactful twists to the formula - while it can still follow the same main plot - and, most of all, a genius execution. I think that's exactly what One Piece excels at.
And to this theory in particular: At least the idea that IMU is female seems pretty likely to me by now. The shilouette could suggest Imu having long hair, and also (SPOILER for second-to-last manga chapter as of writing:)
... we have also gotten the big focus on the relationship between Imu and Alabasta's Nefeltari Lily. We know that Imu is a ruler of some long forgotten founding father nation. Maybe Imu and Lily were mortal enemies. Either that, or they were deep bonded friends with a tragic relationship, that turned to hatred. Somehow, I'd guess that Lily ended up wanting to do something, that Imu couldn't let happen - possibly even connected to whatever lead to the void century being just that - a void - and Imu had to take her out in secret. Or Imu took her away to protect her, because they were ACTUALLY on very good terms and Lily's still alive somewhere. Now that doesn't really add to Imu being female, I honestly got way off track and just went with it because I liked my train of thought, lol.
Is rock d xevec is a crew member of joyboy?
Yes
then suddenly, Imu was the awakened fruit of blackbeard
what if imu is really small and the straw hat is actually normal sized and when you see imu with the gorosei she is just really close to them
finallyy, someone who understands one piece 😂😂. well probably, idk 👀
Toki is NOT from Wano. Her parents were from Wano. She only wanted to go to Wano.
I think imus devil fruit is the map-map fruit. Anything he draws on a map becomes an island or a natural phenomenon.
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Love the thumb nail
It's obvious that Joy Boy is literally Luffy. In a later arc Luffy will travel back in time and will become the individual known as 'Joy Boy'. He writes down all of his experiences on 'Laugh Tale' island where Gol D Roger reads about the adventures of Luffy and laughs, wishing he could meet Joy Boy (i.e. Luffy) 20 years later. The mysterious straw hat in possession of the world government is actually Luffy's hat from the future. The void century is the big final war between Luffy and the world government King back in the past. You can like this post in 3 years time when you realize what i wrote is true.
There is a lot of evidence suggesting otherwise, like the straw hat in Imu's freezer being massive, not like Luffy's. However the main reason I don't think this is the case is that a time travel story like this would be very silly and wouldn't really make sense in the first place.
@@petym9827 well for the following reasons
1) the series has already demonstrated that some form of time travel is possible
2) the mysterious void century has been the central theme since the beginning of the series, it would be boring if the big reveal at the end was that it was something unrelated to Luffy and his team, it would be counter productive to good storytelling.
3) Gol D Roger and his pirates would not be laughing so much in the final island unless they discovered a story so funny and incredible, which can only be the adventures of Luffy. Otherwise again it would not be relatable to the audience if we finally reach the island and find something "else" that is funny.
4) Gol D Roger allowed himself to be captured at the end because he already knew this was what he was supposed to do, because the story he found in Laugh Tale island would have mentioned that Luffy was inspired by Gol D Rogers last words.
5) Silver Rayleigh already knew who Luffy was when they first met.
6) and of course all the other hints given connecting "joy boy" to Luffy.
Also respectfully I don't think it would make the story silly for them to travel back in time. If you check other forums and even some very popular influencer channels on youtu be which made very similar predictions as mine, the feedback was overwhelmingly positive with most people commenting that this would be an amazing twist. Check TH-cam.
Finally regarding the big hat. We have to see what happens, he might power up in the final arc to the size of a giant or something else that we have yet to see. But certainly that the straw hat has a link to the void century is another big clue. In any case we will find out in a few years
@@samwats7892 bro ur theory suk asss* u really think the author wrote all these chapters just to end the biggest mystery to time travel related storyline ,it would be so wacky. In 3 years if this become true I will officially change my name to whatever u want.
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Ah yes, it’s ObViOus
So xebec might have ended up like black beard betraying white beard
The words maybe, might, possibly, and I think has been used a lot in this video
Ryuma also member of joyboy creww as he lived before 800 yrs
all people in joyboys crew
monkey d luffy
roronoa zoro
nami
god.d.ussup
vinsmoke sanji
tony tony chopper
nico robin
franky
brook
jinbei
Did u just said luff's mythical zoan type of fruit???
Luffys Gum Gum Fruit (Gomu Gomu no Mi) is actually the Human Human Fruit : Model Nika (Hito Hito no Mi : Model Nika) which is a mythical zoan
Another crew you forgot was Noland the Liar
No one gon' talk abt escanor in the thumbnail
12...?! I thought Luffy said he would have only 10 crew members?