I think the simplest solution is to have Howard and Maria Stark visit Latveria with their infant son Tony for an arms deal/family vacation. On the trip, Howard and Maria are assassinated by the Winter Soldier, but before he can kill Tony, he’s scared off by a Romani sorceress named Cynthia. Cynthia adopts the orphan Tony and renames him Viktor von Doom.
I agree and think they should start a new sacred timeline after secret wars with sort of a soft reset, recast some characters but keep some the same, that way we can finally get the full marvel universe we’ve always wanted on screen, one that’s much more in line with the comics where all of the different characters can exist in one space and anyone can meet anyone at any time
I don't really know Marvel all that well but I can tell you I think that's what they're doing they are rebooting it to where phase 1 to 4 happened but it's a soft reboot where there's a new Iron Man a new Captain America with Sam Wilson and the rest of the Fox universe characters and the remaining Avengers I personally think that's what they're leading to and before you ask I'm more into DC than I am Marvel however I do like Spider-Man and this is personally just because I feel like it could happen but think about this for a second secret wars has the opportunity to kickstart a potential DC Marvel movie I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen but given that DC is currently in its reboot era with you know their new Studios new actors new content coming out and Marvel will be getting there's in 2027 I feel like it's a perfect starting point for them to do a crossover what do you think and please I do not want to hear any comments about how DC is stupid Marvel is better I feel like as a fandom we should just enjoy both and move on from this pointless feud
I’m really apprehensive about rdj being doom if it is done right he could be one of the best villains ever but if it is done wrong marvel would have a hard time recovering from that
@@gabemyers4516Let’s be honest here, we’re all excited and shocked that RDJ is playing Doctor doom and returning to the MCU. Was part of the reason for casting RDJ, l for marketing tools? Maybe? I don’t know (shortly after the announcement, there was immediate black lash on one side). I just think that they don’t really need to have this doctor doom have some sort multiversal connection to Tony Stark, they could just have doctor doom, as doctor doom. You could have him never take of his mask in the upcoming films, or you could, however, you don’t show his face. Although I will admit, that the concept of a doctor doom Tony Stark variant sounds interesting.
@@MrMortal_RaThe reason was because RDJ actually tried out to be Doom in the first F4 movie, and has been a character that he wanted to play ever since. So when asked to come back he agreed to make a cameo as an Iron Man variant which will happen, but he requested to be cast as Doom because that’s been a personal dream of his as well. And when RDJ ask you give.
@@MrMortal_Ra Meh, people will lash out at any announcement so that part about the backlash doesn’t surprise me. I think it’s most likely gonna be a Stark variant though because I’m sure Marvel wants to save the real Doom for when they have a full universe set up with the X-men and F4.
I think the Multiverse should’t restart but instead Loki could learn how to timeslip everyone and defeat Dr. Doom in the past and Loki can retake his throne at the End of Time. That way, the Loki finale won’t be ruined. Also Loki should be one of the main characters in Doomsday and Secret Wars
Yeah i see the potential for this in my head, its gonna be tough to get there and some people will not like it no matter what but the potential to make this unique and and special is there
This is a hot take but I think they should make this movie more dark and rated r maybe im wrong maybe that’s not what I want but I think I could be a good a idea but also maybe a really bad one
@@Hypnotic-thefirst I think making it rated r is a great idea, but knowing disney, they won’t. R movies statistically make less than Pg-13, and Disney is very greedy, so it’s not happening.
@@benjilovesfruit considering deadpool and wolverine being the 27th highest grossing movie of all time it could happen, d%w made more than all the pg13 garbage disney is feeding us
I’d be willing to bet money that both Deadpool and Wolverine are going to be a huge part of Secret Wars (according to rumors, they’re trying to get Ryan and Hugh to be part of Doomsday as well) but making a Rated R Avengers movie isn’t going to happen, we have to remember that a large portion of the MCU’s fans are kids and teenagers, so Disney isn’t going to want to lose all the money they would make from that demographic
@@gabemyers4516 they should just reboot the whole universe at this point every movie after endgame been mid except Deadpool and Wolverine they’re the only exception
He doesnt need to be connected to tony. Captain america and human torch doesnt need a connection its an actor being an actor playing another character like Sheldon’s dad also playing his cousin. Yall are reading to deep into this
I like the idea that the old guard (Most of Phase 1) is gone and now it’s up to the new generation (Phases 2 and 3) are kinda looking like they’ll be the main characters in Secret Wars
The one thing I want them to do with the symbiote is NOT make Peter aggressive with it. That’s been done to death and it wasn’t even part of the original Secret Wars storyline. This is an opportunity to do something different.
If he is going to have a connection to Stark, surely it would make sense for it to be how Tony Stark traveled back in time as planned like in Endgame, but maybe this universe has him being stuck and getting so homesick that he goes mad?
Ok if they are going to reboot the mcu at the end of secret wars here’s what should happen. Secret wars end credits scene. We see hulk charging through the forest. He’s taking on soldiers he’s destroying tanks. And then someone flicks a cigar at hulk, hulk turns around. It’s wolverine played by *insert actor*, he pulls up his mask and he says something along the lines of “you know your really starting to piss me off bub”, hulk smiles and we cut to black.
Greatest need: Anchor the story to a character people need and love. In all reality, this Saga needs to start revolving around Spidey QUICK. Once we get a Spider-Man 4, we need to see a shift to Spidey’s perspective in the way that The infinity saga was anchored in Stark’s perspective
I think dr doom should either never remove his mask or just give him mad scars like in the comics to make Robert look less like iron man I’m excited to see how he portrays the villain role
@@TydePod16 And there is people who say that Spiderman will see him without the mask and act shocked, do people have any clue about Dooms character at all?
3:35 I’m going to have to disagree with you on that we definitely need to see the Fox X men along with Deadpool & Wolverine in these movies that would be a major piss off to fans including me we can’t forget about that post credit scene from The Marvels where Beast appears & mentions Professor X & that Monica is in the Fox universe ……. I also think the other Fox characters from Fantastic Four should return along with blade , Daredevil, Elektra , Punisher , Ghost Rider & other ones like the two other past Spider-Men . I really hope for this to be bigger & better than the two other Avengers film since this reboots the whole franchise rumor
i feel like in fantastic 4 galactus will eat the earth in the universe the fantastic 4 are from which i think won't be the mcu and only the fantastic 4 will be able to get away and they'll escape into the mcu and in the post credits scene dr.doom will appear with that being said i don't think they should destroy every universe except the mcu but i feel like after secret wars there should be no more multiverse projects in the mcu
@2:19 Doom’s mask doesn’t come off and he’s disfigured underneath it anyway. On top of that, RDJ will also be returning as an Iron Man variant as well which was reported from the same people who leaked that he will be playing Doom.
what if dr doom uses the void from loki/deadpool and wolverine as battleword in the mcu. if he finds a way to prune everyone they will instantly be transferred to the void which could lead us to secret wars
What if Spiderman fights Dr Doom at some point, then his mask comes off and Spiderman is like „Mr. Stark?“, then Doom is like „No kid“, and while Peter gets an emotional breakdown Doom lands a big hit and kills him
Also there is no way he can be in F4 already if Galactus is already announced as the main antagonist of the movie, so Doom having next to no connection to them is another stupid decision
What if in Iron Man 3 Tony went insane and built the machine from fantastic four and the Dr. Doom armor and faked his death and spent many years plotting.
Maybe at the end of Doomsday, Dr. Doom will be killed, not by an Avenger, but by a stronger villain, God Emperor Doom, the most powerful Doom variant and that will set up Secret Wars
What I would love is if dr doom ends up actually being Tony stark, but instead of being kidnapped by the ten rings and becoming iron man, something else happens and he becomes dr doom. That would just be amazing 🤩
You know I have an idea so if doom will really move everyone into his world here’s how my idea will go so, Mr. fantastic, Doctor Strange, and Spider-Man(Pre black suit) will infiltrate his lair and blow it up while he’s inside or stall him but they hit a trap and magic cannot break it, so Doom appears in front of them and since he traveled everyone to his world, he knows all their identities so he brings out MJ and he executes her. Peter is so mad when he breaks floor, and it frees the symbiont that Mr. Fantastic is holding in a container(they were going to use the Symbiot to blow up the lair) and then Dr. doom teleports them out of there, and then a few minutes later in the movie peter’s punching his wall in his room raging and does somebody else crawls away from the lab and tells Peter about how doom destroyed his land and Peter merges with the symbiont and becomes agent venom (not accurate to the comics but I don’t care) later in the movie in like the 3rd battle(Not final battle), he will try to kill the doom and the symbiont takes over and rips off Dooms armor, tears half of Dooms mask off , and Peters arm turns into a spike and almost tries to kill Doom but then he sees you know Tony(RDJ) he’s like “Mr. Stark?”, but doom energy blast him and says, “no child there’s only DOOM!”
I feel like they messed up big time. Why bring Doom into it as a replacement for Kang? Is that the best Marvel can do? Kang needs to be confirmed to continue in the MCU, as he can be done masterfully. But sadly, since they went this direction, I believe they're scared of doing something crazy that the fans will actually respect, not out of panic, but out of determination for quality. The best way to handle Kang is to have an animated (for the budget) Kang "solo" movie on the Kang wars, which was teased in Loki. It would bring character to the main Kang variants, as well as showing why they are a threat in numbers, destroying timelines and the many other Kangs. It would be like the Hunger Games in a way. Now, taking into account that I made up that entire Kang story to actually hype him up for trying to conquer the mainline MCU timeline, tell me whether Marvel is just scared of doing something like that, or are they just making it up as they go along and hope it works?
ngl SDCC was kinda of a disappointment I mean besides RDJ coming back as Doom the rest was kinda mid and they barely announced anything. but im very curious as to what they're going to announce at D23. im hoping that we get more team-up movies and the announcement of Spider-Man 4 and stuff. also since the FF4, X-Men and Spider-Man are going to be the main focus of the mcu Post-Secret Wars they should handle it like this where we get 6 X-Men Movies with Apocalypse being the Big Bad, for the FF4 we should quadrilogy and then at the end of the 4th movie Johnny dies/sacrifices himself and when peter finds out he's devasted but then like in the comics we get a hologram scene where Johnny asks peter to take his place on the team and the movie ends with Peter accepting which then Leads into the Future Foundation where we get a trilogy and for Spider-Man after Secret Wars we get Spider-Man 5 and 6 and then we get an Adult Spider-Man Trilogy or a Spectacular Spider-Men Trilogy with Peter and Miles both being Spider-Man and at the end of the Trilogy we get Peter taking a break from being Spider-Man to focus on his personal life and then he proposes to Kitty Pryde to which then she reveals that she's pregnant. and then in an Avengers event Peter dies and Miles officially becomes the main Spider-Man of the mcu.
I love that rdj is doom but I don’t think he’ll look like rdj in the movies. Because dr doom wears his mask and suit because of what happened to him. But if they make him look like normal rdj that’s fine. I’m still super excited that rdj is coming back to the mcu even if it’s not as Ironman
I think they should do this in secret wars and doomsday SPOILERS FOR DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE I think they should do that the mcu is dying because iron man died in endgame and we see a variant iron man also played by rdj and maybe like the henry cavil wolverine maybe we could get a tom cruise iron man cameo at the end of the secret wars we need a fight between a variant iron man and doctor doom! or aleast a symboite spider man vs doctor doom PLS
I feel like this could be a good scene Imagine When Dr doom reveals he Tony Hawkeye shoots mask off Peter: Tony? If pepper pots or morgan is in it:Tony? Doom: I killed Tony he was weak I am only dooooom Loki: last time I saw your face I was the villain now you are Falcon/cap: We have fought before but it was nothing like this Deadpool: really was that easy to bring you back huh rdj Antman: I didn’t know Tony that well but I do know he was nothing like this Doom:again I’m not Tony I am Victor victor von doom War machine: I won’t let you destroy his legacy (while flying at him) with falcon Steven/moonight what the hell are we fighting now Deadpool:Oh yeah we are Wolverine: Let’s fucking go Idk bout you but that’s sounds like a damn good movie scene avengers doomsdays has so much potential Edit:idk but I feel like if they made the movie rated r and more dark it could be better what you think
@@efeomorede2726 yeah I hope they are I don’t hope they are the main characters because yes I love Deadpool but I think I would love him more just as more of a side character who breaks the 4th wall and makes some jokes but doesn’t end up making the entire thing a comedy
I person hope Docter doom Isn’t Tony, nor ever was, instead, in this universe, the same people who make up his family lived in latveria, and had the name last doom, so when it got to ‘’tony’’ he was instead given the name Viktor Doom, has the same origin and life as the comic character, the only thing that’s the same it’s genetics
I feel like if everyone really gets pulled into dr dooms universe and every other universe gets destroyed, thats where Loki could step in, but it would be really difficult to pull off, they cant have him just come in, freeze time and fix everything with a handwave🤷♂
Or he could be like the watcher where he is observing and talks to some characters through illusions, but cannot do anything physical because he has to hold the timelines. I really want Loki tobe in these movies, but on the other side im scared they would do him dirty. Its hard to implement a multiversal-scaling character into stories like this.
(I am just writing this comment while watching the video and not editing it after) Didn't Scarlet Witch kill the Fantastic Four in the Multiverse of Madness? I clicked on the video because of the Symbiont Suit. And I'm looking forward to the de-masking of Doctor Doom. Yeah, I was thinking of a soft reset, but I would love it if some of the people in the original timeline of the MCU to... not die.
Nothing against RDJ at all as im sure he'll give a good performance but man the casting of Doom feels kinda lazy and a tad desperate in my opinion. While i wouldve preferred a younger unkown in the role im gonna reserve judgement till a teaser drops. Missed opportunity to have him play Superior Iron Man tho😂
This is kinda weird and doesn’t make much sense but what if doom is Howard start because he would be old enough in the 60s idk just a weird thing I thought
Will Kang in the new reboot with a new actor? Look I know that all the things that happened from mouths ago, But anything is possible with reboots, If you don’t like Kang. I can take it. They can write him differently from Ant-Man 3, So they can make Kang an actual threat, But sure Doom is better as I’m honest.
NAHHHH , HAVING DR DOOM IS A CHEAP AHHH MOVE LIKE THEY ARE NOSTALGIC BAITING US , IT WOULD BE WEIRD HAVING TO SEE HIS FACE AS VILLAINS ESPECIALLY FOR PETER BUT IF R.D.J WEARS A MAKS THEN IT IS FINE CUZ IT LETS TONY STARK'S LEGACY REST IN PEACE.
I don’t know, I feel like Marvel has just kind of lost what made them great, other than a few exceptions they just haven’t been as good. I’ll be happy if I am proven wrong though.
RDJ IS MARVEL STUDIOS BIOLOGICAL FATHER, Spiritual father, and Deadpool might be Marvel Yeezus but RDJ IS Marvel god itself, you keep asking, is tobey gonna comeback?, no problably not, Tobey is like Marvels Uncle that brings you a present and then disapears for a decade so you wont hear from Tobey for a while 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Will it’s a let different in the comics because the original marvel universe in the comics was earth-616 is where all the avengers x-men fantastic four and many other heroes and villains are all in the some universe the multiverse in the comics was different
Hope in secret wars they bring a stark variant into the final fight, throw in 2 versions of the infinity gauntlets and let rdj fight himself as a "only he can defeat himself" ending
Like this comment if I should drop my X-Men movie ranking later today!
Yes do it
I think the simplest solution is to have Howard and Maria Stark visit Latveria with their infant son Tony for an arms deal/family vacation. On the trip, Howard and Maria are assassinated by the Winter Soldier, but before he can kill Tony, he’s scared off by a Romani sorceress named Cynthia. Cynthia adopts the orphan Tony and renames him Viktor von Doom.
This would go crazy ngl
Hire this man
Let this man cook.
Send this man to Marvel Studios NOW
That's so good. I had something like this in my mind. I hope this happens.
Peter Parker: "Mr. Stark?!"
Dr. Doom: "No child, there is only DOOM."
hell yeah that would be sick af
I agree and think they should start a new sacred timeline after secret wars with sort of a soft reset, recast some characters but keep some the same, that way we can finally get the full marvel universe we’ve always wanted on screen, one that’s much more in line with the comics where all of the different characters can exist in one space and anyone can meet anyone at any time
I don't really know Marvel all that well but I can tell you I think that's what they're doing they are rebooting it to where phase 1 to 4 happened but it's a soft reboot where there's a new Iron Man a new Captain America with Sam Wilson and the rest of the Fox universe characters and the remaining Avengers I personally think that's what they're leading to and before you ask I'm more into DC than I am Marvel however I do like Spider-Man and this is personally just because I feel like it could happen but think about this for a second secret wars has the opportunity to kickstart a potential DC Marvel movie I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen but given that DC is currently in its reboot era with you know their new Studios new actors new content coming out and Marvel will be getting there's in 2027 I feel like it's a perfect starting point for them to do a crossover what do you think and please I do not want to hear any comments about how DC is stupid Marvel is better I feel like as a fandom we should just enjoy both and move on from this pointless feud
I’m really apprehensive about rdj being doom if it is done right he could be one of the best villains ever but if it is done wrong marvel would have a hard time recovering from that
It’s the Russo’s and RDJ…what do you mean done wrong? Those guys don’t have fail in their vocabulary relax.
Mcu is probably gonna reboot after that anyways so I don't think it will matter
Don’t get me wrong I’m excited about rdj coming back but there huge potential that they mess it up.
lol they already lost what could have been one of the greatest villains on screen of Johnathan majors as kang.
I was hoping RDJ would come back as Superior Iron Man and have him vs black suit Peter
Well what we now know means that we can get pretty close to that idea, and I can't wait to see it!!
@@J.T.7 Same. I’m kinda mixed on him playing Doom but I’d be lying if I said I still wasn’t excited for it!
@@gabemyers4516Let’s be honest here, we’re all excited and shocked that RDJ is playing Doctor doom and returning to the MCU. Was part of the reason for casting RDJ, l for marketing tools? Maybe? I don’t know (shortly after the announcement, there was immediate black lash on one side). I just think that they don’t really need to have this doctor doom have some sort multiversal connection to Tony Stark, they could just have doctor doom, as doctor doom. You could have him never take of his mask in the upcoming films, or you could, however, you don’t show his face. Although I will admit, that the concept of a doctor doom Tony Stark variant sounds interesting.
@@MrMortal_RaThe reason was because RDJ actually tried out to be Doom in the first F4 movie, and has been a character that he wanted to play ever since. So when asked to come back he agreed to make a cameo as an Iron Man variant which will happen, but he requested to be cast as Doom because that’s been a personal dream of his as well. And when RDJ ask you give.
@@MrMortal_Ra Meh, people will lash out at any announcement so that part about the backlash doesn’t surprise me. I think it’s most likely gonna be a Stark variant though because I’m sure Marvel wants to save the real Doom for when they have a full universe set up with the X-men and F4.
I think the Multiverse should’t restart but instead Loki could learn how to timeslip everyone and defeat Dr. Doom in the past and Loki can retake his throne at the End of Time. That way, the Loki finale won’t be ruined. Also Loki should be one of the main characters in Doomsday and Secret Wars
Interesting theory I like how Loki goes back to the throne tho for sure
My mind is like: "Move Deadpool and Wolverine! I´ve got a NEW hype!" 😆
The timeline 100% needs to be like in the ultimate comic books to where the ultimate universe and the main universe collide and we get a new beginning
Yeah i see the potential for this in my head, its gonna be tough to get there and some people will not like it no matter what but the potential to make this unique and and special is there
Yeah it’s gonna be interesting to see how it plays out
I can imagine Deadpool break the fourth wall and say Iron man is alive holy shit how did he get into the multiverse and what’s with the cloak
@@Hypnotic-thefirst Im sorry but that's awful
I really hope Deadpool and Wolverine are in Secret Wars and they push the PG-13 rating as much as they can
This is a hot take but I think they should make this movie more dark and rated r maybe im wrong maybe that’s not what I want but I think I could be a good a idea but also maybe a really bad one
@@Hypnotic-thefirst I think making it rated r is a great idea, but knowing disney, they won’t. R movies statistically make less than Pg-13, and Disney is very greedy, so it’s not happening.
It's a bad ideia, Sony don't permit spider man stuff in r filmes @@benjilovesfruit
@@benjilovesfruit considering deadpool and wolverine being the 27th highest grossing movie of all time it could happen, d%w made more than all the pg13 garbage disney is feeding us
I’d be willing to bet money that both Deadpool and Wolverine are going to be a huge part of Secret Wars (according to rumors, they’re trying to get Ryan and Hugh to be part of Doomsday as well) but making a Rated R Avengers movie isn’t going to happen, we have to remember that a large portion of the MCU’s fans are kids and teenagers, so Disney isn’t going to want to lose all the money they would make from that demographic
Hopefully he’s a variant of iron man because if he’s not they’re basically just casting rdj just to say look we casted iron man as a bad guy
Shouldve just made him Superior Iron man
@@Kalel2.0I think they missed the opportunity for that with multiverse of madness
@@Jay-tb9sh The only problem with MoM is that it most likely would’ve been a cameo when Superior Iron Man could carry an entire saga as a main villain
@@gabemyers4516 they should just reboot the whole universe at this point every movie after endgame been mid except Deadpool and Wolverine they’re the only exception
@@Jay-tb9shHow has Guardians Vol 3,No Way home and to an extent Shang Chi(minus the 3rd act)been mid
He doesnt need to be connected to tony. Captain america and human torch doesnt need a connection its an actor being an actor playing another character like Sheldon’s dad also playing his cousin. Yall are reading to deep into this
0:12 No, no we really don't.
Honestly if doctor doom is now the villain and not kang, do you even need to watch quantumania at this point if you haven’t, I have but still
Dr doom takes off his mask:
Everyone: “is that Tony”
Dr. Doom: “Tony is no more there is only DOOM”
Deadpool: “Calm down Robert”
never let bro cook again
They should just made RDJ part of the Infamous Iron Man storyline as a variant of the multiverse. That way he’ll have relations.
I like the idea that the old guard (Most of Phase 1) is gone and now it’s up to the new generation (Phases 2 and 3) are kinda looking like they’ll be the main characters in Secret Wars
RDJ, Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynold, Toby Maguire, Andrew Garfield one one big Avanger film, man if doesn't gets you hyped I dunno what ?!!!
Throw in Wesley Snipes’ Blade and Tom Hardy’s Venom and I’m sold!
If Spiderman isn’t in those Avenger movies I‘m gonna cry
The one thing I want them to do with the symbiote is NOT make Peter aggressive with it. That’s been done to death and it wasn’t even part of the original Secret Wars storyline. This is an opportunity to do something different.
Ok hear me out… Javier bardem plays doctor doom instead.
If he is going to have a connection to Stark, surely it would make sense for it to be how Tony Stark traveled back in time as planned like in Endgame, but maybe this universe has him being stuck and getting so homesick that he goes mad?
Yeah I think F4 will will be the main focus got Doomsday, Secret Wars brings back everyone.
I wonder if they’ll make the mcu like a trilogy so infinity multiverse and mutant and end it there
I think/ would love to see spider man have a star lord infinity war moment when he’s sees doom without the mask
I think I’d prefer it if it’s like in the comics and the Beyonder starts secret wars but Doom ends up being the main villain
Ok if they are going to reboot the mcu at the end of secret wars here’s what should happen.
Secret wars end credits scene.
We see hulk charging through the forest. He’s taking on soldiers he’s destroying tanks. And then someone flicks a cigar at hulk, hulk turns around. It’s wolverine played by *insert actor*, he pulls up his mask and he says something along the lines of “you know your really starting to piss me off bub”, hulk smiles and we cut to black.
Greatest need: Anchor the story to a character people need and love. In all reality, this Saga needs to start revolving around Spidey QUICK. Once we get a Spider-Man 4, we need to see a shift to Spidey’s perspective in the way that The infinity saga was anchored in Stark’s perspective
I think dr doom should either never remove his mask or just give him mad scars like in the comics to make Robert look less like iron man I’m excited to see how he portrays the villain role
Gus fring’s actor would have been good choice to play doom he is good at playing villains only problem would be his skin colour
I feel like everyone is forgetting that Doom wears a mask and has a horrifically scarred face underneath that he refuses to show.
@@TydePod16 And there is people who say that Spiderman will see him without the mask and act shocked, do people have any clue about Dooms character at all?
Secret Wars needs to be 3 Parts
3:35 I’m going to have to disagree with you on that we definitely need to see the Fox X men along with Deadpool & Wolverine in these movies that would be a major piss off to fans including me we can’t forget about that post credit scene from The Marvels where Beast appears & mentions Professor X & that Monica is in the Fox universe ……. I also think the other Fox characters from Fantastic Four should return along with blade , Daredevil, Elektra , Punisher , Ghost Rider & other ones like the two other past Spider-Men . I really hope for this to be bigger & better than the two other Avengers film since this reboots the whole franchise rumor
1:21 I find it hard to think they would destroy the main timeline but it’s possible
You gotta have the OG 3 appear
Android Human Torch, Namor and Captain America.
There better be dp and wolverine in it
We will see doom in dr. Strange 3. Either it is like ragnarok or ant man and the wasp is dr. Strange 3
I wish you made the movies from now on
In the comics, a variant oftony stark mind swapped with victor von doom,so it would be cool if it was adapted in the film
Loki should be a main focus
RDJ as doom has killed all my hype completely
i feel like in fantastic 4 galactus will eat the earth in the universe the fantastic 4 are from which i think won't be the mcu and only the fantastic 4 will be able to get away and they'll escape into the mcu and in the post credits scene dr.doom will appear with that being said i don't think they should destroy every universe except the mcu but i feel like after secret wars there should be no more multiverse projects in the mcu
@2:19 Doom’s mask doesn’t come off and he’s disfigured underneath it anyway. On top of that, RDJ will also be returning as an Iron Man variant as well which was reported from the same people who leaked that he will be playing Doom.
It would be funny if She Hulk started to break the fourth wall and Deadpool said: No, no. That’s my thing.
Avengers Doomsday is so hype but I gotta wait two whole years 😭
what if dr doom uses the void from loki/deadpool and wolverine as battleword in the mcu. if he finds a way to prune everyone they will instantly be transferred to the void which could lead us to secret wars
Tom Cruise as Superior Iron Man
What if Spiderman fights Dr Doom at some point, then his mask comes off and Spiderman is like „Mr. Stark?“, then Doom is like „No kid“, and while Peter gets an emotional breakdown Doom lands a big hit and kills him
Doom not wearing a mask is horrendous 💀💀
Also there is no way he can be in F4 already if Galactus is already announced as the main antagonist of the movie, so Doom having next to no connection to them is another stupid decision
Tobey and Andrew will return as spider man in secret wars
What if in Iron Man 3 Tony went insane and built the machine from fantastic four and the Dr. Doom armor and faked his death and spent many years plotting.
Agreed this could be used and a soft reboot and get rid of all the messed up characters and stories that were made in phase 4
Maybe at the end of Doomsday, Dr. Doom will be killed, not by an Avenger, but by a stronger villain, God Emperor Doom, the most powerful Doom variant and that will set up Secret Wars
What I would love is if dr doom ends up actually being Tony stark, but instead of being kidnapped by the ten rings and becoming iron man, something else happens and he becomes dr doom. That would just be amazing 🤩
Facts
There’s still Loki missing out of this equation. I need a god mode doom vs stories Loki from season 2!!!!
You know I have an idea so if doom will really move everyone into his world here’s how my idea will go so, Mr. fantastic, Doctor Strange, and Spider-Man(Pre black suit) will infiltrate his lair and blow it up while he’s inside or stall him but they hit a trap and magic cannot break it, so Doom appears in front of them and since he traveled everyone to his world, he knows all their identities so he brings out MJ and he executes her. Peter is so mad when he breaks floor, and it frees the symbiont that Mr. Fantastic is holding in a container(they were going to use the Symbiot to blow up the lair) and then Dr. doom teleports them out of there, and then a few minutes later in the movie peter’s punching his wall in his room raging and does somebody else crawls away from the lab and tells Peter about how doom destroyed his land and Peter merges with the symbiont and becomes agent venom (not accurate to the comics but I don’t care) later in the movie in like the 3rd battle(Not final battle), he will try to kill the doom and the symbiont takes over and rips off Dooms armor, tears half of Dooms mask off , and Peters arm turns into a spike and almost tries to kill Doom but then he sees you know Tony(RDJ) he’s like “Mr. Stark?”, but doom energy blast him and says, “no child there’s only DOOM!”
Respectfully that last line is so corny 😭
Chris evans should come back and play captain hydra and team up with doc doom
I think it would work better with ironman as an actual dr doom variant that looks like ironman.
I want to see something with Peter and the main avengers against with Doom and have his mask get broken off then Doom just dips
I feel like they messed up big time. Why bring Doom into it as a replacement for Kang? Is that the best Marvel can do? Kang needs to be confirmed to continue in the MCU, as he can be done masterfully. But sadly, since they went this direction, I believe they're scared of doing something crazy that the fans will actually respect, not out of panic, but out of determination for quality. The best way to handle Kang is to have an animated (for the budget) Kang "solo" movie on the Kang wars, which was teased in Loki. It would bring character to the main Kang variants, as well as showing why they are a threat in numbers, destroying timelines and the many other Kangs. It would be like the Hunger Games in a way. Now, taking into account that I made up that entire Kang story to actually hype him up for trying to conquer the mainline MCU timeline, tell me whether Marvel is just scared of doing something like that, or are they just making it up as they go along and hope it works?
Do we know if deadpool is gonna be in the new avengers movies?
ngl SDCC was kinda of a disappointment I mean besides RDJ coming back as Doom the rest was kinda mid and they barely announced anything. but im very curious as to what they're going to announce at D23. im hoping that we get more team-up movies and the announcement of Spider-Man 4 and stuff. also since the FF4, X-Men and Spider-Man are going to be the main focus of the mcu Post-Secret Wars they should handle it like this where we get 6 X-Men Movies with Apocalypse being the Big Bad, for the FF4 we should quadrilogy and then at the end of the 4th movie Johnny dies/sacrifices himself and when peter finds out he's devasted but then like in the comics we get a hologram scene where Johnny asks peter to take his place on the team and the movie ends with Peter accepting which then Leads into the Future Foundation where we get a trilogy and for Spider-Man after Secret Wars we get Spider-Man 5 and 6 and then we get an Adult Spider-Man Trilogy or a Spectacular Spider-Men Trilogy with Peter and Miles both being Spider-Man and at the end of the Trilogy we get Peter taking a break from being Spider-Man to focus on his personal life and then he proposes to Kitty Pryde to which then she reveals that she's pregnant. and then in an Avengers event Peter dies and Miles officially becomes the main Spider-Man of the mcu.
Doom will be a relative of stark in the future. Like his great great grandson or something🤣😂
I love that rdj is doom but I don’t think he’ll look like rdj in the movies. Because dr doom wears his mask and suit because of what happened to him. But if they make him look like normal rdj that’s fine. I’m still super excited that rdj is coming back to the mcu even if it’s not as Ironman
I think they should do this in secret wars and doomsday
SPOILERS FOR DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE
I think they should do that the mcu is dying because iron man died in endgame and we see a variant iron man also played by rdj and maybe like the henry cavil wolverine maybe we could get a tom cruise iron man cameo at the end of the secret wars we need a fight between a variant iron man and doctor doom! or aleast a symboite spider man vs doctor doom PLS
I feel like this could be a good scene
Imagine When Dr doom reveals he Tony
Hawkeye shoots mask off
Peter: Tony?
If pepper pots or morgan is in it:Tony?
Doom: I killed Tony he was weak I am only dooooom
Loki: last time I saw your face I was the villain now you are
Falcon/cap: We have fought before but it was nothing like this
Deadpool: really was that easy to bring you back huh rdj
Antman: I didn’t know Tony that well but I do know he was nothing like this
Doom:again I’m not Tony I am Victor victor von doom
War machine: I won’t let you destroy his legacy (while flying at him) with falcon
Steven/moonight what the hell are we
fighting now
Deadpool:Oh yeah we are
Wolverine: Let’s fucking go
Idk bout you but that’s sounds like a damn good movie scene avengers doomsdays has so much potential
Edit:idk but I feel like if they made the movie rated r and more dark it could be better what you think
I like how everyone else is shocked that their friend is trying to destroy the multiverse but Wolverine and Deadpool just want to kick his ass 😂
@@Jad-rocks821will Deadpool and wolverine be in avengers doomsday?
@@efeomorede2726 I don’t know for sure, but their movie doing pretty well so they probably will be
@@efeomorede2726 yeah I hope they are I don’t hope they are the main characters because yes I love Deadpool but I think I would love him more just as more of a side character who breaks the 4th wall and makes some jokes but doesn’t end up making the entire thing a comedy
PLEASE VENOM AND MILES MORALES!!
I person hope Docter doom Isn’t Tony, nor ever was, instead, in this universe, the same people who make up his family lived in latveria, and had the name last doom, so when it got to ‘’tony’’ he was instead given the name Viktor Doom, has the same origin and life as the comic character, the only thing that’s the same it’s genetics
Same
I feel like if everyone really gets pulled into dr dooms universe and every other universe gets destroyed, thats where Loki could step in, but it would be really difficult to pull off, they cant have him just come in, freeze time and fix everything with a handwave🤷♂
Or he could be like the watcher where he is observing and talks to some characters through illusions, but cannot do anything physical because he has to hold the timelines. I really want Loki tobe in these movies, but on the other side im scared they would do him dirty. Its hard to implement a multiversal-scaling character into stories like this.
(I am just writing this comment while watching the video and not editing it after)
Didn't Scarlet Witch kill the Fantastic Four in the Multiverse of Madness? I clicked on the video because of the Symbiont Suit. And I'm looking forward to the de-masking of Doctor Doom. Yeah, I was thinking of a soft reset, but I would love it if some of the people in the original timeline of the MCU to... not die.
Cillian Murphy is got to be the Main Victor von Doom/Doctor Doom in the MCU/Marvel Cinematic Universe, while this one is a Variant.
Maybe that's a bit much Doom tho
Ngl I like rdj he fits the role more in my opinion
Robert Downey Jr. will most likely not be Dr. Doom after the soft reboot
We should see deadpool
Nothing against RDJ at all as im sure he'll give a good performance but man the casting of Doom feels kinda lazy and a tad desperate in my opinion. While i wouldve preferred a younger unkown in the role im gonna reserve judgement till a teaser drops. Missed opportunity to have him play Superior Iron Man tho😂
Idk I think it’s a good idea cuz rdj is a great actor and having him play doctor doom could set up some emotional moments
I honestly like him being Doom better than if he was an iron man variant
superior iron man could be tom cruise who knows
I am sick of villains being so connected to tony stark
This is kinda weird and doesn’t make much sense but what if doom is Howard start because he would be old enough in the 60s idk just a weird thing I thought
put makeup, fake scars, and make him Bald like in the comics so he looks completely unrecognizable than it would be fine
I wish they would’ve recasted kang
I don't get why he has to have a connection with Tony
Will Kang in the new reboot with a new actor? Look I know that all the things that happened from mouths ago, But anything is possible with reboots, If you don’t like Kang. I can take it. They can write him differently from Ant-Man 3, So they can make Kang an actual threat, But sure Doom is better as I’m honest.
NAHHHH , HAVING DR DOOM IS A CHEAP AHHH MOVE LIKE THEY ARE NOSTALGIC BAITING US , IT WOULD BE WEIRD HAVING TO SEE HIS FACE AS VILLAINS ESPECIALLY FOR PETER BUT IF R.D.J WEARS A MAKS THEN IT IS FINE CUZ IT LETS TONY STARK'S LEGACY REST IN PEACE.
Absolutely not, he should have no relation to stark. He needs to be DOOM not dollar store doom
I disagree with the Multiverse being a cheap story device, you can tell some amazing stories with the Multiverse, all that matters is the execution.
Just put tobey , ryan , rdj and huge together
I hope the multiverse ends here. I’m lowkey tired of it
I don’t know, I feel like Marvel has just kind of lost what made them great, other than a few exceptions they just haven’t been as good. I’ll be happy if I am proven wrong though.
Where is inhumans and Hyperion characters 🤷🏻
RDJ IS MARVEL STUDIOS BIOLOGICAL FATHER, Spiritual father, and Deadpool might be Marvel Yeezus but RDJ IS Marvel god itself, you keep asking, is tobey gonna comeback?, no problably not, Tobey is like Marvels Uncle that brings you a present and then disapears for a decade so you wont hear from Tobey for a while 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Will it’s a let different in the comics because the original marvel universe in the comics was earth-616 is where all the avengers x-men fantastic four and many other heroes and villains are all in the some universe the multiverse in the comics was different
They need to make iron man and doom distinct becoz then people will remember doom as evil iron man
Bro I was watching it and suddenly you deleted the video. 😂
Accidentally uploaded the 1 minute TikTok version 💀🤣
Then doom dies and becomes superior Ironman
WORST AVENGERS FAN SERVICE OAT ☠☠☠ they just fucked fatalis origine story and the kang's potential...
This is all confusing me 😭😭😭
The fans want victor von DOOM not tony stank
Hope in secret wars they bring a stark variant into the final fight, throw in 2 versions of the infinity gauntlets and let rdj fight himself as a "only he can defeat himself" ending
Aint noooo way the dcu died before it even started 🙏🏻😭
DCU rolling out like supergirl or the authority in the same year we get Doomsday is NOT gonna end well for the dcu
@@vetzmovies bro dc is realising supergirl in the same month as shrek 5 and toy story 5 💀💀
im excited for the DCU but they are doomed box office wise
10 views in 1 minute bro fell off
Indeed
Pin plz