SUPER ICE NUKE! True Zenoiran OP TEAM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- This team can functionally freeze enemies and DPS them down as well as take space, push, hold, and DEMOLISH the enemy forces. It is also virtually unkillable.
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Fun fact! You can hit 'X' on towns in the world map (on Switch, they key is probably like Y or triangle on Xbox or PS5) to see their shops. You don't actually have to travel to them.
Much like how Amalia was possessed by the spirit of her ancestor, Hilda was possessed by Lu Bu.
Not sure if someone else mentioned this tip, but you can hit X on Switch when hovering over a town in map view and can see all the shop and town offerings.
What the actual fuck? That was a thing? xD Thank you so damn much my dude
I used this as well in the elven area. It's really good when you get it. It doesn't really work anymore in the fourth area though. Too many units with high HP, freeze immunity and/or guard skills. It's just too slow for how the action economy works in this game.
A bit further in you also get the icestorm staff, which hits all enemies three times for 50 magic potency and freezes them all (for only 2 ap). That makes the whole thing a lot easier and more economical to pull off and also lets you have some extra dps on the side.
Then you however encounter those angels that reflect your magic back at you, and you start to regret your life choices when your own entire team is frozen.
Yep. Some people keep saying you just need to make superunits or something for true zenorian but it changes with each region and sometimes even for the map because of their boosted stats. You can and should make a few units that will kill the enemy without taking damage but there isn't a really a one unit fits all strategy
@@gjfwanghonestly it’s better to make some units that are good everywhere then one that’s dominant in 1 area and just doesn’t function elsewhere. For example a good old crit feather sword plus general’s bow shield shooter based comp works everywhere to a extent.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 how does this generalist build work?
This channel will be great when I finally get around to playing this game.
The one team in the coliseum that removes buffs counters this team super hard tbh. The only way to win is if you have super high initiative lol
I subbed in a rogue to stun the dispel unit IIRC using its on battle start passive seal/stun
I upgraded it by adding a lucky coin and reduce the pp of witch to 3 . Thus after casting ice nuke , a lucky coin boosted true strike dragon dive will finish them all!
Did you mean dirty gambler coin? Lucky coin is the one giving evasion and critical stats
Nice video, Iced. Who would you put as your 5th unit once you get it set to 5 units?
This combat reminds me of the og ff7 materia auto kotr everything strats
You can work the Trinity staff similar once you find the orb of magia and ring of haste. Haste the caster, he charges Trinity, kat ears back to his turn, familiar collar for extra damage, cast, magia repeat. Nothing will survive 2 rounds of that aside from other casters.
Around what level does this build actually become practical for cheesing the arena?
I haven’t promoted Travis or Yahna yet, I have all the items needed, and everyone is around level 15. I’m on the final arena fight (Grand Champion.) The team gets wiped before the ball can start rolling.
Edit: For reference, I’m just trying to recruit Amalia asap for fun, to the point of lowering the difficulty just for the arena.
you probably need gilbert with rapid order
@@SilverDew_That certainly was a step in the right direction, I can land two Dragoon Dives now. But I think I need Yahna to be promoted so that both dives can be ice, not just the first one. I take out half the squad now before getting wiped.
I did it! Got Amalia. All it took was the right RNG.
Doesn't this team get completely shut down by a single sword fighter that insta kills travis? or any of the many instant debuff spam enemies, reflect magic enemies and inflict mass blindness enemies?
I've been trying some of these pre-mades teams from TH-cam, and it seems they all work either perfectly or not at all.
Meanwhile furryland with a staff that does this by tself
Booo furryland is DUMB too much furr
Still,nothing beats the trinity staff
@@shadoweclipse8357 I have dual cast on my trinity staff team, but honestly it's not better than this team.
Trinity rain+quick impedus+chocker
Furry land? I just made it to sexy elf land 😂
Where do you get frost book?
Tower immediately next to the witch village in the swamp. Like, RIGHT next to it, you'd think it's part of the town but nope.
More a question than a suggestion, but wouldn't it be good to run the cat ears on travis because he basically can recharge his pp aslong as there are enemies with pp left?
He starts with 3 pp and because of guard seal, he always gets at least 1 pp in round 1. Then the combo goes of and IF somone is alive, he gets new pp to maybe start the hole thing again?
Even leaves room for another set on the cleric or maybe a druid to debuff for more damage? 🤔
Might work if you put him in the back. Because a front liner without a defensive ability seems rather iffy.
Beside that you shouldn't forget that other units can protect others with guard as well. So if the enemy has another units with a protection skill, this entire strategy falls apart. So it's probably better to be safe and stick with something that is guaranteed to work.
Moreover, you'll also be losing the angle plume effect, which loses your flying unit 20 initiative; which is quite a lot. Unless of course you want to put another rogue(or other fast dodge tank) in there. But then you'll have no healing, which would probably make the unit worse overall.
Cheese stinks but it sure is tasty. Ive been thinking of rehoming travis and hilda so i appreciate the info. (And thanks for showing it, it is dirty.)
Using items and units the game just gives you isn't cheesing.
I can't remember where exactly, but I'm pretty sure you can find a rein in elfland somewhere.
They just sell regular reins in one of the drakenhold towns. It has marginally less stats than the 20 divine shards version but skill is same
I need one more divine shard to get this combo put together. I guess I need to mine for some shards. I got all the ones I can from the overworld.
You don't actually need the divine shard heavens wyvern reins, they are just a slightly upgraded version. You can get regular wyvern reins for gold in one of the towns in Drakenhold fairly early that do the exact same thing and only have like 3 less initiative.
Hey why didn’t you use primm with Hilda are you a psychopath?
I’m running sniper’s amber lens which gives guaranteed crit and hit for 2 pp. wyvern reigns will only activate at 100% hp.
It activates. You get 20% attack buff if you're at 100% hp.
@@gjfwang is that not what I said?
@@Faerrox I think the point is that the wyvern reigns gives you True hit regardless of what hp you are at
Yeah this is what I was doing, as soon as I saw dragoon spear I was like "oh.. this is a better griffin..."
But then I hit 5 units so I did both ice and fire conferral in the same unit because fuck it, scorched earth bb
Now I'm towards the end of the game and I have a few board wipe teams.
This is one, another does both the all-ice bow attack and the lion guy's ground pound attack... this is probably my worst unit because it's my slowest... instead of quick impetus since I don't have another I am using the items that instantly ready charge skills but since I'm doing that I can't plume to raise init so it's way slower, and a second quick impetus team that does the aoe staff attack from the angel shop.
Then throw in some aoe from the elf ladies and you have a bunch of nuke teams that counter different unit types.
For the most part I just have 2 teams I'm really running, and the other is your Alain, 2 cavs, rosalinde, ochlys team.
Oh yeah, Dragoon dive is soooo sick, better wild rush
You beat the entire coloseum with this?
Yes
Any 5th member recs?
Housecarl/Viking is great for war horn. Makes your dive un-guardable
They should eliminate the battle preview for the true zenorian difficulty, people say it's easy because they can see beforehand if they are going to win or lose an engagement something you should not be able to at the hardest difficulty
Tbf what makes that part and permadeath tricky is people just restart the map anyway.
@@LuiBei1994 you could disable that as well and make it an iron man mode where you only get 1 save slot.
Does not knowing make the game any better though?
In Fire emblem radiant dawn they disabled the ability to see enemy ranges on the highest difficulty and it just made that difficulty extremely annoying. (I think this change would have a similar result)
I see this suggestion a lot but don't understand why anyone would actually want to just not know what's going to happen in a battle. I think it would ultimately encourage making sure fire shut down comps like this one and overlevelling as much as possible.
@@redchicken5533 I think people who choose this difficulty after they have beaten the game and are well versed in it's units and mechanics is to experience it again but at a much harder gameplay difficulty.
About the fire emblem you mentioned I have to ask as I didn't play that game but could you edit your teams as easily as you could in the middle of the battle field in unicorn overlord?
@user-ck5yq8xl3p sorry I used an example that had no meaning to you.
The idea of the example I shared is this, they increased the difficulty by decreasing the amount of available information. It was still possible to calculate that information, but ultimately it just punished you for making miscalculations.
Removing the battle forecast is this on a larger scale.
Repositioning/changing weapons/items/tactics are all options that the player has before engaging in combat - but the only reasonable way of knowing what the result of that combat will be is the battle forecast (which just tells you the final taken damage and not the individual damages - so there is a small degree of surprise left in initiating combat).
I say this is the only reasonable way, because every attack has a hit chance, every attack has a critical chance, calculating damage would be a pain even if you know who is targeting who, and many skill interactions are niche.
At least in my opinion, beating the game once or twice and being familiar with mechanics does not overcome this aspect of the combat systems unpredictability (not to mention we know sometimes range assists are detrimental - so at least I would never use them if there was no combat forecast).
That's why I think simply removing the forecast is a really bad idea.
If you wanted to reduce the amount of team editing you could do mid battle (partitioning resources, not allowing access to the convoy) I think those would be more interesting ways to increase the difficulty. In fact, I'll say this: True Zenoiran would be more challenging and fun if you couldn't scroll to another unit on the field, unequip their gear and then come back and give it to the unit engaged in battle during battle preps. (That feels like an exploit)
One thing they could have done but did not : make it so 6 allies can be together, that way if you had enough medals you can play with every character in the battlefield (if the amount of character is 60 exactly, i have to check that out)
Ran into a Trinity Rain team in Coliseum that I coulnd't beat with his. The caster had instant cast, but was slower than an Owl with "ally moves to top of initiative" as their start of battle skill. And guards are also a problem still.
But in PvE the comp pretty much slaps.