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@@ViewlessSquid if anything, at bvr. The f-35s have an advantage. The information sharing between all the f-35s is super valuable 1v1 tho there is not advantage from information sharing in which the f-22 would have the advantage given the better airframe + speed
@@kavinbala8885yeah but that's not directly in Dcs, there's a lot of avionics and systems of the f-35 that would make it a lot deadlier against any aircraft
The best way to simulate the F-35 cockpit is to basically have a transparent "ghost cockpit." It would simulate the avionics of the helmet perfectly that way, since the helmet is designed to allow the pilot to see "through" the aircraft.
I absolutely love to see you two "idiots" flying together again! I was watching a British documentary on the nickname the British pilots have for Fat Amy and they call it the Battle Penguin. I can't get that out of my head every time I see the F-35 now!
Everyone can pick on Fat Amy, but when you see the things it can do in the air - and it’s probably still restricted maneuvers at an air show - it’s truly an amazing aircraft.
As a frequent airshow spectator, I’m very surprised by the F35 demo. A lot of people talk about the F35 and it’s lacking in the maneuverability department. However, of all the demos, the F35 actually has the most impressive high alpha slow speed pass. It gets the nose way up there. As for the other maneuvers, it seems average among the best aircraft. Just an observation.
Pre Block 3 werent maneuverable. But after Block 3, they become what they are: High AoA fightet with some energy - best world of the F-18 & F-16 in combination of VLO and a super conputer.
I love the F-35 :) I saw a F-35A fly over my house once, I could just see the detail on the bottom of it and it was crazy loud, heard it for at least 5 minutes after it flew away!
The F-35s surprised me in both fights, really. I fully expected maybe some close calls but for the Raptors to come out victorious, but the Lightnings did a bit better this time out, 2-0 vs 1-2.
Raptor still doesnt even have helmet cueing which 4th gen jets have had for decades. Its a huuuuuge disadvantage. Its crazy, but supposedly it should be getting it soon. Doesnt have irst either but will in a few years externally.
Capabilities aside, we recently saw the f22 and the f35 at the pacific air show. The F22 looks like an angry murder plane. The F35 looks like a god damned space ship.
Yep, I saw two F35As for the first time in airshow practice in Florida looking exactly like this vid at 7:25, they zoomed by fast and loud, totally awesome 🔥🔥🔥
@@dreaminknightyeah idk why people keep parroting this. We have confirmed accounts from actual red flag pilots that say flying against the F-35 in WVR combat was a nightmare.
@@dreaminknighthigh AoA can’t be high energy at the same time unless you consider high AoA like 10-20 degrees. The F-35 like any other plane becomes a speedbrake when it pulls AoA.. this is not new stuff guys.
@@mikeyplayzwrld You're completely disregarding the sheer power of its engine. The F135 engine has the fastest spool-up time of any jet aircraft engine in the world. Tl;dr its equivalent of a 0-60 rating is INSANE. It can pull its nose and then regain energy extremely fast.
F-35 are better than the F-22 due to their more advanced stealth, avionics and electronic combat suites. Fancy air show maneuvers aint win air battles anymore since Vietnam.
We have an F-35 squadron in my city. What you don't see like you did with the previous F-16 unit are the F-35s flying as a close pair. Usually you just see and/or hear one at a time.
DAS the F35 implement all its goodies already as telling Patriots where the enemy is, brutal passive sensors, over the shoulder shots, data fusion and such or is just a F-16 or some other plane with some very low RCS skin?
Raptor still doesnt even have helmet cueing which 4th gen jets have had for decades. Its a huuuuuge disadvantage. Its crazy, but supposedly it should be getting it soon. Doesnt have irst either but will in a few years as well though externally.
Crazy thing that the f35 has so many features that aren't modeled here. It has an external ecm module that it drags behind it that has three different types of counter-measures
Every time you guys get together going to be fun I wish we could see Tag view for this fight especially the first one. Thank you so much for making all this great videos GS
@@michaeld1170 Yeah a lot of them love the C wings and the F-35 in general is explained by them as having the alpha of the super hornet and energy retention of the viper.
@@rododendron85 "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley. Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.
Ive seen the f35 multiple times at a airshow that comes every year. The demo us better then the blue Angels, who headlined the airshow. Sometimes both these jets are there. Spectacular thing to see.
GS is simply great other channels show the F-22 and F-35 as aircraft that you cannot get a fire solution on…like they are completely undetectable/trackable
This would've been a great opportunity to bring back the tactical breakdowns (showing how your pincher move did and didn't work). I know they're lots of work but I'd be super interested in knowing what you two were planning.
Ive seen many request for you to fly fat amy and since the DCS F35 isnt properly modeled yet you should give the vtol vr one a try, it has a fully functional TSD screen, DAS, EOTS, can guide missiles through datalink, dynamic rcs, fully helmet mounted hud, etc.
This just goes to show you that is advanced as the F-22 is the F3 5 lightning two is a monster in groups with missiles. They will be even more dangerous with the newer missiles coming out in the next 5 to 10 years.
First Patriot launched was probably track via the F35 themselves as they have superior network integration built in… otherwise it would have been pretty hard to track multiple F22s on their own.
Great video, it seems as tho the 2 best stealth fighters in the world are hard to kill. So that means any Enemy shouldn't ever have a chance at shooting one down, as long as it has a good pilot like yourself flying it.
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Do you know of any good flight simulators for mobile?
You should do a video and have a naval ww2 fighter vs the hornet or tomcat
I have a question and i hope u answer it fr but why dont u fly the F 35?
You technically survived the ejection...it was the landing at 500mph on foot that got ya...
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that’s what gets you.”
The ejection isn't over 'till the chute deploys...
You guys are too much sometimes and Yeah, gravity is an indiscriminate and equal opportunity killer 😎
@@vettedriver8104 Gravity isn't really at fault here. It was a fairly minor influence on his final velocity vector.
Lithobraking with your face is never going to end well.
"Don't bring 'em over here" 🤣🤣
You two guys work awesomely together 😆
Pretty cool seeing F-35 perform so well directly versus Raptors.
To be fair, it was against “two morons” 😂
At BVR, I’d say they are pretty equal.
@@ViewlessSquid if anything, at bvr. The f-35s have an advantage. The information sharing between all the f-35s is super valuable
1v1 tho there is not advantage from information sharing in which the f-22 would have the advantage given the better airframe + speed
@@kavinbala8885yeah but that's not directly in Dcs, there's a lot of avionics and systems of the f-35 that would make it a lot deadlier against any aircraft
@@ShaneSpaceguy Ye i'm sure the current models of all of the planes are missing key parts which we the people don't know about.
The combination of the stealth WITH the data link is a deadly combo - if anyone sees the adversary EVERYONE sees and can engage them!
They should pick off the awac
@@Dirtyharry70585F35 and MADL means they all act as each other's AEW though
And now the F-22 is getting the data link upgrade as well so we will have super Raptors.
Plus IRST pods 🔥
Not modelled in DCS though@@robertm8401
"That sounds like a you problem" "Don't bring them over here" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
When is this guy gonna finally fly the F-35 😂
It probably doesn't look nice enough (the cockpit is just the F-15C cockpit) which is a bit misleading
I don’t think they got the cockpit modeled in DCS for the f35.
Swrz, F35 have a lot of contents to role on....
I believe F35 can be at F22 at BVR
I’ll fly the f35 once there is a mature mod (there are a few in the works apparently), so hopefully soonish
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3 F-22s for 2 F-35s. The budget people will not be happy.
they wont be spending the $400k an hour in maintenance for the 5 stealth planes anymore. so there is that haha
Contractors will be happy.
The best way to simulate the F-35 cockpit is to basically have a transparent "ghost cockpit." It would simulate the avionics of the helmet perfectly that way, since the helmet is designed to allow the pilot to see "through" the aircraft.
Two best DCS channels together. Love these collabs
I absolutely love to see you two "idiots" flying together again! I was watching a British documentary on the nickname the British pilots have for Fat Amy and they call it the Battle Penguin. I can't get that out of my head every time I see the F-35 now!
Everyone can pick on Fat Amy, but when you see the things it can do in the air - and it’s probably still restricted maneuvers at an air show - it’s truly an amazing aircraft.
The F-35 can absolutely do some amazing things
I love it when you 2 work together
They play together, work, thats debatable... :D
Work "together" ahha
Puts some respect on the F35
As a frequent airshow spectator, I’m very surprised by the F35 demo. A lot of people talk about the F35 and it’s lacking in the maneuverability department. However, of all the demos, the F35 actually has the most impressive high alpha slow speed pass. It gets the nose way up there. As for the other maneuvers, it seems average among the best aircraft. Just an observation.
Pre Block 3 werent maneuverable. But after Block 3, they become what they are: High AoA fightet with some energy - best world of the F-18 & F-16 in combination of VLO and a super conputer.
It's a loud bastard too.
Depends on the model. There are 3. I usually see the B model
@@andgate200043,000 pounds of thrust isn't quiet
@@andgate2000 No doubt. It’s way louder than the Super Hornet and Viper.
I love the F-35 :)
I saw a F-35A fly over my house once, I could just see the detail on the bottom of it and it was crazy loud, heard it for at least 5 minutes after it flew away!
The F-35s surprised me in both fights, really. I fully expected maybe some close calls but for the Raptors to come out victorious, but the Lightnings did a bit better this time out, 2-0 vs 1-2.
The F-35 is a much better aircraft than originally suggested.
Those 35's demonstrsted they are formidable foe's against the great F-22.
Formidable against “two morons” 😂
You NEVER leave your wing man lol
Those channel logos look great next to each other. Great video gentlemen.👏👏
So Fat Amy is a Raptor killer now?
Who'd a thunk? 😂
Raptor still doesnt even have helmet cueing which 4th gen jets have had for decades. Its a huuuuuge disadvantage. Its crazy, but supposedly it should be getting it soon. Doesnt have irst either but will in a few years externally.
@@user-mm1nt1it5v oh dear! Didn't know that.
This, however, wasn't the reason, why raptors were smoked in this installment 😄
@@user-mm1nt1it5v They do have IR missile launch detectors, basically the F-35s DAS but as you pointed out no tracking.
F-35 are suprior due to their more advanced stealth, avionics and electronic combat suits
@@Mike_Romeof22 has smaller RCS on the other hand (supposedly)
F-5 Tiger vs F-4 Phantom dogfight when?
Bro thinks the f-4 has a chance against the f-5.
Capabilities aside, we recently saw the f22 and the f35 at the pacific air show. The F22 looks like an angry murder plane. The F35 looks like a god damned space ship.
In Cali?? All we saw was fog.
Yep, I saw two F35As for the first time in airshow practice in Florida looking exactly like this vid at 7:25, they zoomed by fast and loud, totally awesome 🔥🔥🔥
@@nostr4domus other side of the pacific.
I saw some f35’s at the Duluth airshow quite a few years ago. What shocked me most is how damn loud they are, it’s pretty ridiculous
I have f35s at my local airport, it's amazing to see them in the air would love to see an f22
I'm loving the co-op content!
those fat amys are no joke
Fat army turned out to be muscle mommy Amy
Shows you how scary the tech is on the F35. It's not a dogfighter, but it's dangerous as hell.
The F-35 is a high AoA fighter but with high energy. So, it is still damn dangerous bird.
@@dreaminknightyeah idk why people keep parroting this.
We have confirmed accounts from actual red flag pilots that say flying against the F-35 in WVR combat was a nightmare.
@@dreaminknighthigh AoA can’t be high energy at the same time unless you consider high AoA like 10-20 degrees. The F-35 like any other plane becomes a speedbrake when it pulls AoA.. this is not new stuff guys.
@@ObiWanShinobi917What about BFM? WVR is still far away where maneuverability doesn’t matter as much.
@@mikeyplayzwrld You're completely disregarding the sheer power of its engine. The F135 engine has the fastest spool-up time of any jet aircraft engine in the world. Tl;dr its equivalent of a 0-60 rating is INSANE. It can pull its nose and then regain energy extremely fast.
The F35s did a much better job than I thought they would. Great video.👍
F-35 are better than the F-22 due to their more advanced stealth, avionics and electronic combat suites. Fancy air show maneuvers aint win air battles anymore since Vietnam.
I love how you two fly collectively worse together than individually 😂. Bringing out the worst in each other
Would love to see some more WW2 stuff soon!! Love your content man
We have an F-35 squadron in my city. What you don't see like you did with the previous F-16 unit are the F-35s flying as a close pair. Usually you just see and/or hear one at a time.
Let me guess, Burlington, Vermont?
Had F-35's flying over my town last weekend :) Warbirds down under... spitfire's mustang Hudson bomber... Amazing weekend
As usual the two of you together are GOLD
Seems the fat Amy ain’t such a slouch after all! Great collaboration guys!!! Keep it up.
Really enjoy it when you two collaborate on a video!
I appreciate the entertainment and videos from you both!!
Love when you guys fly together.
I love it when you two collab. I hit the like button before I even watch because I know it's gonna be good.
I really miss the tac view
just got into dcs after watching your content for years. glad to finally be apart of the dcs community
Is the learning curve as extreme as they say
@@Fuckyou_youtubeits definitely difficult, luckily i started with the f5 so pretty much starting in a trainer lmao
The Thicc Amy’s prevailed
DAS the F35 implement all its goodies already as telling Patriots where the enemy is, brutal passive sensors, over the shoulder shots, data fusion and such or is just a F-16 or some other plane with some very low RCS skin?
Probably the latter. DCS mods usually dont go that deep into avionic design.
It’s an F-15 with low RCS skin. That’s what GS doesn’t fly it.
That was some of the best flying I've seen yet. Right up to the part where you got killed. You never, never leave your wing man. :P
I love your chuckle! 😂
Raptor still doesnt even have helmet cueing which 4th gen jets have had for decades. Its a huuuuuge disadvantage. Its crazy, but supposedly it should be getting it soon. Doesnt have irst either but will in a few years as well though externally.
I think the pilot had a good taste of mach 1+ ground coming to say hello to him.
Fortunately, you got an ejection seat.
Finally A match to remember great jobs guys keep up the good work
Crazy thing that the f35 has so many features that aren't modeled here. It has an external ecm module that it drags behind it that has three different types of counter-measures
Good to see you guys making videos together again
The turn that amram did seemed crazy
Every time you guys get together going to be fun I wish we could see Tag view for this fight especially the first one. Thank you so much for making all this great videos GS
I work on F22/F35 LG systems for a living, love these videos 🤘🏼
The only two people in the world whose IQ subtracts from eachother when trying to work together...
I like that you guys are doing videos together again
whenever life permits it.
Good second fight, but dollar for dollar, the F35s still won! 😄
Whoever was flying those f-35 they were very skilled
Really enjoying this vids with the both of you talking
Man those aamrams those f35s were firing were filled with hatred lol
well looks like the F35 is performing quite nicely
Great to see some 22 v 35 action here ... been waiting
I love these two together.
Great idea for a matchup!
Some 20+ years older technology, avionics, sensors, data links, materials. Assuming both planes are accurately modeled.
BVR fight between 5th gens: "OOH! We're merged!!"
I would expect the F-22 to also have data link but maybe that's not the kind of info that gets shared I'm sure. Loving the team ups!
HELLZZZ YEAH... now we're talkin!
1:28 stay on his wing maverick,
hell yeah
Ok. That was a seriously cool team mission. More of these.
love the interaction between you guys ...
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 136
F-18 would win, it turns tighter in one circle
@@rododendron85 Not so sure, according to F-35 pilots who flew all variants, the F-35C has the smallest turn radius thanks to those big wings.
@@michaeld1170 Yeah a lot of them love the C wings and the F-35 in general is explained by them as having the alpha of the super hornet and energy retention of the viper.
@@rododendron85 "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley.
Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.
Another Good one! Thank Yall!
Ive seen the f35 multiple times at a airshow that comes every year. The demo us better then the blue Angels, who headlined the airshow. Sometimes both these jets are there. Spectacular thing to see.
Bro got sideswiped by an AMRAAM like a car entering the freeway too fast xD
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Finally a bvr f35 video
GS is simply great other channels show the F-22 and F-35 as aircraft that you cannot get a fire solution on…like they are completely undetectable/trackable
I always look forward to the videos you and Longshot do together.
It would be cool to see GS fly some F-35s..
Love the wingman Ops man, hope we can see some more.
that was some kickass modern fight!
Missed out on a chance to do split screen when both misses hit that F35
LOL what a couple of goofballs! I love it.
Once again, thanks for keeping our skies (un)safe.
This would've been a great opportunity to bring back the tactical breakdowns (showing how your pincher move did and didn't work). I know they're lots of work but I'd be super interested in knowing what you two were planning.
"that's why you Never leave your wingman" !!!!!
Great video, you guys are great together
Way Cool with y'all together!
Always fun when GS and LS link up. Hillarity is sure to ensue.
Those F35s were no joke.
Two Supersonic Supercomputers vs Two of the scariest fighters ever created
Ive seen many request for you to fly fat amy and since the DCS F35 isnt properly modeled yet you should give the vtol vr one a try, it has a fully functional TSD screen, DAS, EOTS, can guide missiles through datalink, dynamic rcs, fully helmet mounted hud, etc.
Need more of these co-ops. 😂
You guys are great. Please keep making colab videos. A lot of fun
This is the funniest video you have ever made.
Dogfighting will be back in a few decades, all these stealth fighters won't be able to lock each other only close range.
Thanks for the F-35 content.
Wouldve loved the Tac View for that first flight
This just goes to show you that is advanced as the F-22 is the F3 5 lightning two is a monster in groups with missiles. They will be even more dangerous with the newer missiles coming out in the next 5 to 10 years.
Round 1 - I thought I heard the Fat Amy singing... 😉
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First Patriot launched was probably track via the F35 themselves as they have superior network integration built in… otherwise it would have been pretty hard to track multiple F22s on their own.
Great video, it seems as tho the 2 best stealth fighters in the world are hard to kill. So that means any Enemy shouldn't ever have a chance at shooting one down, as long as it has a good pilot like yourself flying it.