Spencer Hastings: The Video You've Been Waiting For!
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toxic family- 01:32
the "smart one"- 17:38
Spencer's romances- 23:13
becoming unlikeable- 33:20
role in the show- 37:56
what went wrong?- 46:36
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If anything Emily is the compassionate one in the friend group. The reason she isn't super loyal is because she cares so much about others that if her friend does something wrong she's not afraid to call them out.
I always thought aria was the artsy one. I never got compassion from that character
@@allisonf3508 SAME!
When I watched this parts I wasn't fluent at all. I didn't know what compassion meant.
I figured out all the others (loyal for Emily, genius for Spencer etc) by the context but I couldn't figure out what compassion meant because Aria isn't compassionate at all!!!!
@@enikovarga2533 me too i used to think it was like passionate because she was all artsy i guess
@@allisonf3508 💯🎯
To me, Aria was always the creative one, the daring or “edgy” one, but never compassionate. I always thought Emily was the sweet and compassionate one.
i also think spencer became the MAIN main character due to Troians acting abilities because she does have amazing range
So true! Best actor among all
Of them followed by Lucy hale
She Became the Main character the last two seasons Aria was the main character for the first Four season
@@Deevasi yes 💯 troian is the best actor then I would personally say shay Mitchell. Followed by Lucy hale and then the rest are all tied 😭
@@emmawalker5859 shay? i love her but her acting is so wooden in PLL
Hannah and Emily honestly felt so useless in the later seasons. This show was definitely about Spencer, Aria, and Alison
Still don’t forgive how they portrayed her as the bad person/perpetrator for kissing wren and Ian, they took advantage of her age it’s gross
Wich is why if Wren Was UberA since SEASON1 as original planed ther could have made him Beach hotti . In my idel end to 6x10 we see UberA enter his apartment we see something britisch and all of the A Things that wher stolen as mentioned in the scene befor by the girls who then lock Abitur unsere if its truely over and then switch to UberA entering his Apartment. Ther he ließ down groß Doktor kill and goes to take out a black hood walking paßt the old Ali mirror t,wher he Stars still takes away one ali pic and replaces it with one of Spencer and then goes on to the Black hoods.
During the timejump UberA Plans while being with Alex as a replacement.he kinda makes her his Spencer doll. Her motiv to be HelperA is to be spencer but Wren only is with her qs he cant be with Spencer. He Plans his revenge for that . He stilis in contact with CeCe And she is the one who wants to to still be his BigA and he says once she is out she can have Mona Alison and the other girls in ger doolhous once they had ther fun with them and he will get the Real Spencer.he even alows her to take Alex ,after CeCe sayed she wants to kill Mona when ther done with her , so Alecx can be her Sugerot Spencer.Alex doesnt knew that
Then CeCe gets killer and Alex,who is still CeCes sicher wants to find the killer and as she still Plans to torture the girls,she gets asked to nie the New BigA. She sayes she doesnt want to be A.but be A.D. wren is Annoyed but Allofs it. He too starts to think how it will trotzdem them off to later find out when he has them in his and Charlottes Dollhous that it Was him allalong. WREN also kidnaped Sahra on THAT NIGHT as he Was already manipulating Mona.becaus TWIST it Was tecnicly him and Mona that createt the A Game
YES YES YES but that’s how the parents portrayed her
She's meant to be smart, surely kissing her sister's bf must fall within the "wrong" category.
I always saw Melissa as the biggest wasted potential in the show, she was hinted as being shady from the first season and was always a weird and suspicious character. She'd have been so much better as a final A being someone who had been in and out of the story the whole time but never the actual villain.
By the end she's just a constantly suspicious character but it's literally never explained she's just randomly suspicious
Agreed!!! I always thought Melissa’s inconsistency in behavior toward Spencer was mysterious and that is was leading up to something. Now I know that the writers just couldn’t make up their minds about what to do with her… but Melissa had so much potential to be a more integral, powerhouse character.
@@misslinguinni YESSS, imagine if Melissa would have known from the beginning that Spencer was adopted, and was kind of jealous of her, and then when her boyfriend was cheating on her with one of Spencer's friends, and imagine if she found out about Ian kissing Spencer. That could have sparked something there, and they could have created her character like someone with mental illness. That could have been great
Anyone remember Melissa was part of the NAT club? Perfect potential to build her up as a villain! I was so disappointed when they never mentioned any of this ever again! Melissa should have been part of the A team!
I remember watching the finale and there was an early Melissa red herring that got me SO EXCITED. I thought they were FINALLY connecting all the threads they left hanging with how shady she was. Like what was even the explanation for the Melissa masks?? Or her wearing a black swan dress??
its not surprising given the whole show is just a bunch of red herrings everywhere but what's frustrating is we never get a proper explanation for anything lol
They just completely glossed over the fact that Toby was s*xually ass*aulted.
Raped actually. For a while.
Yeah the writers just basically dropped it just like they did with the n.a.t club which didn't made any sense and also what happened to the videos we never got an answer to that the producers dropped the ball on these storylines leaving big plot holes in the series I think that they did those moments only for shock value 🤯😬😠😡🤬💩🤢🤮
@@shirin9452 rape has to involve some form of penetration, so what he went through is still classed as sexual assault. that doesnt change the severity of it, however; what toby went through was horrible and traumatic, it just technically wouldnt fall under rape
@@zaddyfaye6880 I really don’t think that’s true for guys, but I don’t completely know. His stepsister forced him to have sex with her threatening that if he didn’t she would tell their parents he raped her...and they would believe her over him. I see it as rape.
@@shirin9452 it is true. men can be prenetrated both anally and orally (so, no, it's not different for men), what toby experienced is still as severe, however. i dont want to come off like im downplaying what he went through, just that most people treat "rape" as a buzzword to amp up the severity of a sexually-motivated attack, under the false pretence that rape is the most severe offence
“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
"For the first time ever, the new definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men. It also recognizes that rape with an object can be as traumatic as penile/vaginal rape."
definition of rape:
unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
toby was essentially used as a tool for jenna's gratification, toby endured extreme sexual assault, not rape. in using rape incorrectly (to make a situation seemingly more severe) u are spreading misinformation ab rape, as well as making sexual assault out to be a lighter offence; this is harmful to victims of both sexual assault and rape
Even though I adore Troian’s acting abilities, I used to question Spencer’s status as “the smart one” when she left her laptop open with sensitive information, didn’t even TRY to back it up on anything, and left her laptop unlocked and open so that A could just waltz in and erase the video.
i genuinely think that there were many things on the show that did not make sense, from small mistakes like the laptop, to big plot holes. Honestly, I feel like there aren't very many WELL-written shows and so it is inevitable for these things to come out and the audience will catch it and be very annoyed.
THIS! I'm literally rewatching the show and every time one of them walks out of a room and leaves their phone or their computer my mind is blown. Also, how is it that at no point in the first three seasons did it occur to them that their phones might be bugged?
Definatly agree here!
@@alias1150 also I love that after everything they went through Emily thinks yeah let’s take some of my eggs out because A totally wont do anything to them
Emily is the one that left her laptop open and A came in her house and erased it during a house you when her house was up for sale.
Melissa inspired FAR more terror in me than bloody ALEX DRAKE. Melissa would have actually been a terrifying A. Especially in that scene where she turned up at the N.A.T club screaming “Where IS SHE?”
Also teamed up with Wren they would have been really threatening.
Yes, Melissa as A would have been good! They still could have made Spencer the main character and have it be her sister, but a sister she grew up with. She didn’t even know Alex Drake existed. It would have explained why Melisa was so hard on Spencer and why Allison was involved, because Melisa was so mad at her for going after Ian.
The writers forgot they were supposed to tie everything together. But they were so busy trying to confuse all of the fans that they got lost and couldn't figure out a better way to fix it. In my opinion the writers after season 3 were equal parts sloppy and full of themselves to the point where they lost sight of the point of the show.
they left the fans confused for good now, good job writers 🙄
It also seemed like they really wanted to make actors play multiple roles, like TVD, but couldn't pull it off bc this....isn't a supernatural show...
Even both buffy the vampire slayer and charmed the original series were able to tie up their loose ends especially buffy pretty little liars basically made some of the same mistakes as supernatural and game of thrones did doing storylines and then dropping them either because they forgot or because they just didn't care 🙂😊😀😬🤯😠😡🤬
@@cynthiaholmes5124 yup i can agree buffy & charmee (og) did tie up loose ends & made everything tie together! The last season PLL was seemed like rushed for sure
I think Marlene King just lost her goddamn marbles cause the ending feels like a student scrambling to write an essay at the last minute of an important exam. I kind of like the trainwreck but it was bogus and if I watched the series from the beginning rather than binging the series before the 6th season, I'd have been more pissed.
The later part of the show definitely felt like Pretty Little Liars: The Spencer Adventures
I love how that rhymes
That title was too accurate and highly ironic
as it should
That’s when the show went downhill. They should’ve kept it about Ali.
She is the most interesting of them all I'm sorry also the best actress
“how did spencer have time” that’s what the pills were for, miss girl MADE time 😭🤚🏼
😂😂😂😂 I keep saying this with pills and adderal you can do anything and everything
“Did Emily just… do something useful, that’s amazing”
Girl the SHADE
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I feel like the whole twin thing was HORRIBLE made no sense because wasn’t she and ali supposed to be cousins then ? It was weird to me and what about melissa ? then they said they adopted spencer like it was just so bad !!!! They should’ve kept alison evil and made her the original A it was just so weird !!!!!!
I was disappointed. If they were going to do something so cliché they should have at least do it properly
Also, it made it so that Jason was both her brother and her cousin, which is weird.
The producers definitely should had used more material from the books to me the books were far better than the tv show well till the last three seasons the first four seasons are great but after not so much 😬🤯😳🤪😵😠😡🤬
Yes they were cousins. The writers of the show said that they were never going to make Ali a twin though if im not mistaken. Them being cousins really had nothing to do with her being A. They also shared a brother. 🤷🏼♀️ but none of that had anything to do with spencer having a twin.
Spencer's flaws are the most realistic I think, since she's ambitious but also cynical. I only watched the first three seasons so I didn't ever see her become the main character but I always felt just like Spencer, wanting to be perfect but also knowing that it might be futile to try. She's kind of angry at the world for not caring about how hard she tries. I feel like if pll were realistic she would end up burning out and just relaxing with age, maybe smoking weed or something idk. I always just wanted Spencer to relax you know. But the twin thing is hilariously out of nowhere it's like a fanfiction
She did eat weed brownies 🤪
@@absurda3710 yep and she’s had drug issues before that
The only possible way the twin theory would be acceptable is if Alex had been Spencer since like season 4, like maybe the switch happened at the lodge. It would have been dramatic and shocking and low key good writing - especially if they'd left little clues or just making things seem the tiniest bit off.
Or, if Spencer never left the dollhouse. Then, if “Spencer” was acting weird, oh, well, it’s because of the dollhouse and being tortured!
@@samkathryn4825 yesss!! That would have also been way better than what they did
@@amelialouise4914 Thank you!
Yeah or maybe even just from the start of the time skip
"we didnt know who was coming down for breakfast, you or your evil twin" sound familiar?
it was so irritating how at the end Toby's entire purpose was just to rock up every 8 episodes, sleep with spencer, and then dissapear until Haleb/Ezr*a has a fight, and they needed a couple scene.
So true! I was like “where is Toby?!”
I think if Melissa was working with the twin and has always liked the twin and that’s why she spent so much time in England then they could’ve tied the twin in so much better
That'd be awesome
I feel like after the time skip Spencer and Emily should of switched storylines. Spencer could of gone to college and realized she didn't really know who she was or what she wanted for herself, then she went on her travel abroad to find herself. Emily could of found some stability and gotten her degree. Emily could of been driven by her Father's death and not had that dumb egg plotline which was only there to push her and Alison together, and they didn't even stay together so what waa the point anyway.
wow i never thought of that but you’re right their storylines would’ve made much more sense if they were reversed
Dam if they kept Wren as A melissa’s behaviour would make more sense.
YES. Makes me think that they really DID intend for Wren to be A……
Wren as A was honestly pretty good. I mean he was there from the beginning as a side character. I’d take Wren over Alex being A.D any day of the week.
@@internalclorox7010 I was told while the show was going that wren origin was supposed to be A but since someone on set leaked it they changed it.
I thought Wren was going to be A since like season 4
Wren should've been Charles DiLaurentis aka -A in 6x10 the whole Cece is Charles > Charlotte made no sense whatsoever.
They didn’t have to kill off Yvonne For Spoby.That’s crime and punishment 😡😡
@Melissa Jayne
I Blame Marlene 😡
#JusticeforYvonne
also they should have brought back Big Rhonda
So many black characters were either villainized or killed ://:
seriously! i was so bothered by that even though spoby was my favorite couple, i was genuinely sad that she died. yvonne was a sweetheart and deserved so much better, just like maya and the other black characters killed off for shock value
Toby caring about the law? Yeah right it doesn’t even make sense for him to prioritize his job over Spencer since he supposedly became a cop to get information for Spencer Toby clearly needed to get his priorities straight
I really didn't like that storyline it was really pointless to me 🤯😬🥶😡🤬
Yeah that was horrible and only seemed like a sad excuse to keep him relevant in the show
it's also kinda weird bc he was institutionalized or idk what even if it was unfairly and he seemed like a total social outcast at the beginning even tho he is a fine guy, so him becoming a cop and so law abiding is kinda weird. He struck me more as shady and a rebel despite being good instead of so righteous. Maybe I'm wrong
@@fatbitch7168 I don't know why Toby would ever want to serve and protect a town that treated him so terribly.
Right me personally I don’t think Toby was for Spencer
The one thing i will never get over is what they did with Spencers and Tobys relationship. The other three couples got married or at least engaged AND all of them had children or wanted some but at the end of the show we didn't even know if Toby and Spencer are a couple. And the only way they ever made clear that they married was by an Instagram post for the spin-off.
Yeah they definitely deserved better 😠😡🤬😬🤯
And with Alex pretending to be Spencer, was Spoby even real? What parts of them were actually Spencer and what parts of them were Alex? How far back did Alex start pretending to be Spencer (I don’t remember if it’s ever said in the show)? Regardless, it’s a huge slap in the face to Spoby shippers because it makes us question if the beloved ship was even a thing.
@@vsprsgdby definitely agree with you I really hated the hole alex pretending to be Spencer and sleeping with toby was so gross I still can't believe that Marlene decided to do that just for shock value and it definitely feels like a slap in the face to me 😠😡🤬🤯🤢🤮
Spoby is my favorite couple in the series and I hated how in the final season they were treated 😡😥
I hated that all the couples ended up together.... it was too much. Let some of the high-school relationships stay in the past
Spencer once said "hope breeds eternal misery" and I've never forgotten it, I still love her so much.
it was so weird that she would just quotes random people out of nowhere
Yk what they say about hope, it breeds eternal misery
i think the spencer-melissa conflict comes from their families impossible standards pitting them against each other bc they’re in constant competition of who’s the best sibling and most deserving of their parents (and society’s) praise and affection. when you look at how the hastings family functions, i personally think, it becomes very obvious why they lowkey hated each other at times.
I’d also say it explains why she had so many love interests bc she’s so desperate for love , the love that she didn’t get from her parents growing up bc that was always conditional and tied to her achievements.
It makes me so sad to talk about "What if the writers did this to expand on that and give us this" because they're such good ideas that are never gonna happen now.
Imagine if at the end (last episode) it was revealed that Alison’s twin was AD and she killed Alison back in season 1 and was just pretending to be her but none of the liars would ever find out
I’m pretty sure that is how the books were
oh my goodness that’s crazy
About the twin thing I wish they had followed the books, it would had been a lot of drama and really tied together everything. I hate how they ruined the Ali caracter.
serena: it would have been so nice if he said hey lets run away together
me: lmao why the hell would he say that she's reaching so much
serena: it would be a cute tie back to that s1 scene when she talks about running away and--
me: .. i see why she's the one making the video and i'm the one watching it
🤣🤣
Whenever Melissa was in a scene, I sighed really loud. She made me angry and her "good deeds" were not really that powerful. When she tried to tell Spencer what she did for her, I couldn't care less.
The way those two fought was so over the top. Melissa was the older one and Spencer was the teenager. Was it really that difficult to be nice to her teenager sister?
Same tbh, she's supposed to be the most mature out of the two.
I think the issue with Spencer is that the writers didn’t want her to be unlikable or have any major flaws. In the books all of the girls, especially Spencer, are actually quite bad people, they’re mean and secretive and extremely flawed. Spencer is written as extremely jealous of Melissa and starved of her parents attention which is the reason she plagiarises her paper and kisses her boyfriends (she even pushes her down the stairs at one point). But the show didn’t want to have the main protagonists be mean girls and I think that’s where a lot of the flaws began. Because they’re so nice they come across as victims whereas in the books they definitely don’t deserve what A subjects them to but at the same time you understand why they can’t go to the police or tell their parents.
I wouldn't say they are all that nice in the show. I'm honestly surprised at that stairs incident coz I didn't know about it. It'd be a very different angle from which to look at Spencer if that had happened in the show. But the girls were still very cliquey, cruel, lacking in manners and self-awareness, pretty immature and toxic. We empathize with them, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to punch the hell out of Aria or Spencer sometimes 🤣 They could be so unlikeable...
spencer plagiarizes melissa's paper because she was very fatigued and stressed out from all the stress "A" was causing. she tried to write the paper herself but she was again too stressed out to think properely, and she didn't understand econ at all, which was what the paper was about. so she gives up and resorted to plagiarizing melissa's paper to get a good grade. that's why she did it, her being jealous of melissa and craving her parents attention had nothing to do with the essay situation. and also, she confessed later on because she wanted to do the right thing, even though her parents told her to not to. so i wouldn't call her a bad person. the liars in the books are raw and have flawed moments like most human beings, that's the beauty of the books they're actually well written unlike the terrible show, but to call them bad people is a stretch, especially when they're still teenagers in high school. we've all done messed up stuff in our lives. also, regarding her pushing melissa down the stairs, that's because melissa was saying extremely below the belt things towards her in that moment, like when i read the things melissa was saying towards her my mouth dropped. so i wasn't surprised that spencer finally stood up for herself and put hands on her.
@@asdzxcx3686 when did Spencer push Melissa down the stairs
@@jasonmoukala8909 in the 4th book, which is titled "Perfect"
lol I wish we had gotten a scene where Spencer actually pushes Melissa down the stairs 😂
I think that spencer's parents never cared about This adult males kissing her was because Marlene didnt see a problem with the age gap at all
We have Ezria to prove that (im Brazilian and not fluent)
Don’t worry, what you said made sense! & I totally agree. If Marlene had an issue with the ezria age gap, she would’ve ended that relationship the way it happened in the books.
@@jayleyhope4952 yess thank you
The biggest problem with Ezra is not the age thing, the problem is that he planned it, he went into the girls's life to find out about Alison, and to do that I think he was willing to get involved with any of tje girls, he just happened to run into Aria first.
@@RossieMarrie no, the age gap is literally a crime, thats no discussion on that,
It messed up young girls head while watching pll.
@@laurafreitas1516 I know it is, was just saying its not just the age gap, is the fact that he planned its even worse.
Spencer was the backbone of this series
Unpopular opinion🔔: This might be a random thought, but the show (and by extention, the actions of the characters and the general morality of the show) would have made a lot more sense if *the girls were in college* instead of highschool.
Atleast a lot of their romances would have been way less creepy.
True, but it was never the show's desire to be unproblematic or to make sense. Idk how old everyone was at the time the show aired, but I was in middle school and with all its bonkers drama and whatnot, it felt like it was aimed at middle schoolers. College wouldn't make sense for, or even reel in the target audience, at least imo. I'd love to see a college reboot or another HS one but this time it calls out the creepiness and there are repercussions for predatory adults.
but the whole plot relies on them still relying on their parents and having such little power despite the scale of their issues
And the fact that the dod whatever whenever. Their parents were bad at knowing where their kids were
@@Judesarout692 thank you! no one ever says that, but the show would make even less sense if they aged up the main characters. everything would change & the stakes would feel so much lower if they were all adults who were free to do what they want, see who they want, leave class if they need to, & simply move away once they realize they're being stalked.
I think Spoby had a LOT of potencial. While I was watching the video, I started to think of how uninterested Toby was in academics in contrast of Spencer. And I think that should have been used in order to progress Spencer's character. Like, Caleb does seem like the type to go backpacking in Europe but you know who seem the most prone to go backpacking anywhere???? TOBY! He was like this sweet guy really connected to family (despite of how troubled it was), or at least the idea of it, and connected to nature and appreciating the small things in life... I don't know, that's what comes to my mind when I think about Toby, specially in seasons 1 and 2 and even in the awful season 7. And I think all of those characteristics would have matched perfectly with Spencer's unconscious desire to not be like her family. Like, how on earth would Spencer be happy as a lawyer???? Anyways, one thing I likes about the last season was how connected Spencer was to her horse because it seemed so genuine and that could had been her escape from her family since the beginning. And I could have totally seen Spencer and Toby living on a farm together and Spencer finally letting herself not care about her family's expectations.
PD: I think Toby was way too much of a sweetheart to have been part of the A team
PD2: I love your PLL videos, please don't ever stop making them. Maybe you can do one of only comments or just a plain "REWRITTING THE WHOLE PLL SERIES"
one of just comments could work! xx
This is how I imagine that writing session going
"we need the girls to find a clue for Board shorts, maybe a home movie, or a diary??"
**voice at the end of the table** "no, a bird, it should be her grandmothers bird that sings dial tones. It does not matter how the bird shows up, but it should definetley be an irritating parrot that sings two year old phonenumbers"
marlene: GENIUSSS
Right! As I was watching I thinking “A bird? Really? Just for one clue?”
I agree that it was ridiculous, BUT I also think this was the writers’ failed attempt at making a reference to Twin Peaks. I mean, the main plot of the show is VERY similar to Twin Peaks: a popular high school girl goes missing/dies and during the investigation all the town’s dirty secrets come to light. In Twin Peaks, one of the clues was Waldo, a talking mynah bird that repeated some phrases which later revealed some important things. So yeah, I believe this was their kinda clumsy reference.
Spencer was always my favourite, makes me so sad seeing where her character ended up!
i never really shipped spoby after season 6 but this video made me realize why. it was because yvonne made spencer seem like such a second option for toby that it made me not believe there was any passion left in the spoby relationship. the writers didn't even make yvonne have any real flaws to get us rooting on their downfall as a couple. they instead threw together these seemingly perfect soulmates, killed her off, and expected toby to fully want to be with spencer after being broken up for YEARS
EXACTLY
I think you captured the issue of the show perfectly: the producers tried to shock the audience instead of making sense.
More focus on the plot and the shock factor would have come in its own...
The book makes more sense on the Mona reveal. Instead of having it be a mystery that Spencer solves, Hannah actually knew it was Mona when she got hit by a car and she lost her memory. I can't remember who or what, but someone says something to her that reminds her it's Mona. Emily then texted Spencer when they were on the way to the police station to turn Melissa in. When Mona realizes that Emily told Spencer that she is A, she explains that she was setting everything up to frame Spencer to be Alison's killer, but after actually spending time with her, she decides to frame Melissa instead to do her a favor. It made less sense in the show.
By the time spencer was the main character I didn’t even realize that they had been like grooming us to look for her for every answer, every plan etc. all the other characters were so diminished by that point I was almost always waiting for Spencer’s scene to see what was actually going on. That’s wild
This is facts
Spencer is a mess as a character, but her basic traits are very relatable and in many ways she’s many the only character who really feels like she’s going to high school. Her early personality is basically just growing up feeling very pressured to live up to her family’s expectations and struggling just to try and keep up.
As the seasons go on, she even unravels in a way that isn’t realistic but feels relatable. They really did her a disservice by not playing up her adderall habit and making it clear that she is basically coming apart because she cannot live up to the expectations of the people around her, try and solve the A mystery and just be able to breathe. She’s not taking party drugs, she is addicted to drugs that essentially let her hyper focus and maintain the demands of those around her. this should have been made a much bigger plot point, because when it happens even the other girls look at her as if she is at fault, and it’s clear they don’t even see how much expectation they have placed on her by essentially looking to her to lead the group. It could have been a place where the girls really see what they are doing and rally together to make them seem stronger as friends, and to give her a solid safe place to allow her to pull herself together.
I didn’t love how Spencer’s relationship with her family played out generally. I actually liked how the early Melissa/Spencer relationship was played out, because Melissa was a good red herring badly used. The two of them love each other but are fundamentally unable to relate to each other because their parents have played them against each other. But over time, the lack of development and change in their relationship didn’t make sense. I thought that when it was revealed that Melissa buried someone because she thought that she was helping spencer that the two of them should’ve realized that in spite of all of their issues with each other, ultimately they are allies against their parents. They could’ve created a really strong bond between them that would’ve given A a new way to get to Spencer and pull her strings.
I agree, and I feel like the drugs storyline could have been a good opportunity to have them bring the other girls into the mystery more because at that point essentially the girls just dealt with their own A issues as they came and left Spencer as the one responsible for tracking them down. Seeing what the pressure did to her they could have used it to work more cohesively as a unit for the first time in trying to find A and have the girls realise that as a group they could take down A using each individual's strengths.
Excellently said! I wholeheartedly agree with this.
I feel like Spencer had an interest in the arts that went overlooked because they already had Aria playing the role of the artist. Personally, my favorite relationship Spencer had was with the artist guy. No, public defacing isn't great, and that storyline as a whole was pretty stupid, but if they had introduced him in a different way, but kept him as the same guy...? I'm pretty sure that was the only time I ever saw Spencer genuinely happy, relaxed, and carefree. And it was swallowed up by the damned push for Toby.
i agree, she was a little artsy underneath
Yea I want to see break free and go to art school ! In season one Spencer seemed to actually to be interest to interior design but her dad squashed that. I honestly thought her arc would be her breaking out of having to be the best, and become her true self. But even after a breakdown, an addiction, and a KIDNAPPING, her parents are still like “But college!”
I really want her to end up in Paris working in the art world. It would have been cool to see a completely different Spencer come back in season 7.
In season 1 she told Wren she was into interior design and she was the one who redesigned the barn. If they kept with that they could've had a great exploration of Spenser redesigning Radley Sanitarium into Radley Hotel. Imagine how deep and liberating it could've been for her to move on from the trauma of being institutionalized (thinking Toby was dead)
UGH. It hurts to think of the missed opportunities. My ending for Spenser would be to redesign Radley and gtfo of Rosewood and never look back
Agreed! And to the people suggesting that she be the one to buy and redesign Radley instead of Hanna's mom are on to something. That never even really occurred to me, but watching Spencer turn Radley into some beautiful art museum or boutique hotel or something would have been great! I so wanted Spencer to just move on with her life and have a chill existence, but in season 7 she basically crashed, head first, into an existential crisis.
Serena, I like that you touched on Spencer being the one with Mona was Mona revealed herself as A. I also thought that was weird and I think that would have been way more heartbreaking and creepy if it was Hanna that Mona revealed herself too. Also, I thought that in a flashback in season 5 or something, Mona said that Hanna was smarter than Spencer, so why would Mona want Spencer instead of Hanna? I thought that was weird.🤨
P.S. I loved this video. I’m very excited for Alison and Mona deep dives😊
I never noticed it before but as soon as she said it I couldn't help but feel devastated that we never got that clearly superior scene.
I also found it really weird that they tried to have their cake and eat it too with Hannah being sometimes stupid and sometimes an overlooked genius depending on what the plot called for. Like at some points she shows that she really is on par with some of the heavy hitters in terms of intelligence but then turns around and forgets how to spell her own name or something else equally stupid.
But Hanna isn't smarter than Spencer. After portraying her as the team blonde bimbo for years, in the later seasons they just started telling us she's secretly smart. Too much telling, no showing. I mean, this is the woman who said "Jenna can't hear us, she's blind." And you want to believe she's not only smart, but smarter than Spencer?! Yeah, no way I'm swallowing that shit.
@@ineffablegabe Nah she had moments in the first seasons where it became clear she's not stupid, she's naive and takes no interest in studies but she was more shrewd than most of the girls on multiple occasions. There were quite a few times she became the voice of reason.
@@alexjames7144 yeah but they tried to pull the act of Hanna being smarter than Spencer which is beyond false
@@BlessedHen Well depending on the plot her iq is 12 or 200 so I guess it depends what the writers felt like that day
Lol they pulled the Hufflepuff card with Emily. Tbh isn't pretty much everyone "loyal" ?
I just started S6 of my rewatch and I really wish, in the time jump, they’d used that opportunity to have the characters in a different light. Like, what if we see Hanna is the business one, wearing blazers and running the world. And Spencer be the one who left school and is not so ambitious (having broken out of her family’s crazy games). It would’ve been so great to see the characters having had these arcs and be in a good place. Maybe Aria, who was the least invested in the A conflict in the past, takes over the detective work. It’s just such a shame, especially for Spencer, to see the girls mostly unchanged after all this time. All the couples being broken up was also annoying and unnecessary. If they wanted Spencer to be the main character, she and Toby should’ve still been together.
20:10 but remember when she talked to Toby and she mentioned this language - learning app where you get a flag and your icon travels to that country? I think she enjoyed that lol
I think that Melissa being final A would've been satisfying because it would have been a reward for the fans that were watching from the beginning. I also found Melissa's behavior very disturbing throughout the seasons. Not only was her relationship with Spencer tense but she had this extreme jealousy of Alison and seemed to have a vendetta against all of the liars because of it.
Also, how I always understood the dynamic between the sisters is that being academic and highly motivated was something that came naturally to Melissa, whereas with Spencer always had to work for every grade and achievement she got. Because Melissa was "perfect" in her parents eyes Spencer always felt like she couldn't be anything less. This is where Spencer's resentment comes from. On the other side of this Melissa is coming to terms with the fact that she is no longer the golden child but a budding adult and her past accomplishments that came naturally to her don't necessarily translate to her success as an adult. Whenever she sees Spencer succeed Melissa takes it almost like Spencer is mocking her or stealing from her. And those feelings magnify when Spencer interferes with her romantic relationships.
Man, I still love Spencer, she's the main reason they all survived this madness
Well, Emily is the Dumb One. I mean, Hanna seems the dumb one at first, but the biggest and dumbest mistakes (like the Open House laptop mess) were done by Emily.
Spencer was the breakout character because of how solid she was written early on and Troian's talent. She also felt like the most rounded even when the writing went Days Of Our Liars.
Have you ever done a video on the wasted potential of certain characters? Like Sydney, Bethany, Shauna, Leslie, Andrew, Eddie Lamb, etc...Pretty much the "useless" characters that could've been great but their storylines ended up going nowhere.
Melissa should be top of that list, I can't think of any other characters that had so much mystery and so many red herrings and then amounted to nothing.
@@alexjames7144 HONESTLY. That's how I felt with characters like Jenna, Lucas, & Bethany. And Sara Harvey. So much shadiness with these characters & lots of potential wasted.
@@BrianaNicolee The fact they had a whole cast who all could have been in some way the big bad A and were shady at some point, and they made it a new bitch? Criminal
Eddie Lamb! Such wasted potential! He seemed like a nice guy who was just genuinely confused about what was happening around him and what he thought he might know from working at a mental institution.
@@strawberrylime33 He was part of the reason I wanted Aria to be -A.
Ma'am you have chosen violence today. I am supposed to be doing math homework and instead im going to watch this three times today. PERFECTION LET"S DO THIS!!!!
Sasha is such an amazing actor as well and could definitely have handled being centre to the plot in seasons 6 and 7! Favouritism for Spencer's character and Troian is to the detriment of the story for sure imo
definitely, it works against the story
I can not think it is because the actress gained weight.
“Why did Toby join the A-Team? It made no sense!”
Because every single male character had to be made shitty, even senselessly, to make Ezra look better.
The last time I was this early, Trioan played one character on PLL.
How did you just write her a better storyline and ending in an hour than the writers did in 7 seasons? 😹
i adore spencer. shes so interesting and cool, ive always looked up to her
I've always been intrigued by the connection between Spencer&Alison, and Spencer&Mona. With Ali, I feel like they go into it in a bit more depth in the books, probably because you can see into their heads a lot more. Spencer and Alison are said to look quite similar, and they are actually related. So there's a competitiveness there definitely, but also a longing on Spencer's end. She never had a good relationship with Melissa, so when Ali gets back she projects her need for a sister onto Ali. Without giving anything away, it goes badly for her, which then presents a good opportunity for her to repair her relationship with Melissa. As for Mona, I think Spencer was the only one she ever truly saw as an intellectual equal. There's a bit more of a connection in the books, but not by much. I would have liked to see more of them together on the show, especially before Mona's A reveal. Their minds together would have been powerful, and I think Mona knew that, and that's why she wanted Spencer to work with her. But I agree, there really wasn't enough buildup for it to have an impact.
What do you think are Spencer’s weaknesses? She’s great but her flaws are so interesting to discuss!
I feel like her weakness is pride
I loved Spencer . The fact that Melissa was not her real sister maybe what if she knew would make why she was like that with her also was more worried about Jason more.. BUT that her Dad was making all these mistakes no wonder she did not trust him.. what if ali mum was still alive maybe the story would have more secrets to discover.. And instead of Alex reveal's what if Charlotte and Bethany Melissa where friends and she turned against mostly of Ian and she hated Ali mostly ..and the crazy English husband of her that cheated with Spencer ...
She was very intelligent, but that was also her weakness at times. Her brains made her very prideful on occasion. I think that weakness in character was realistic because we saw her grow from it.
Her sisters boyfriends
I agree that she's an amazing character but it's really annoying that she always has to be right and doesn't listen to others.
i think the writers were so obsessed about the whole twin thing because in the original book alison kills her twin sister and takes her place. if that would have been trancribed into the series and would've been the final reveal i think it would have been so great
Yes the storyline of the books was so good and there were so many hints that really lead to the right solution in the end. I don't know why the show writers didn't used this potential
Sasha would have pulled it off amazingly, it would've been great.
I’ll never forgive this show for making Toby a cop. Makes absolutely no sense for his character and just WHY. The most consistent aspect of PLL was that they always chose the weirdest ways to create conflict.
She used to be my favourite character until she went for Caleb. I lost it then.
Because everything just felt so wrong.😭
Yeah, that was the thing for me, too. What even was that? The show treated it like some little drama, like some sort of cheap filler while everyone knew they wouldn't last
I hated this . I was like wow what a shit friend
@@heathernash2046 Everyone says this and it doesn’t make sense because Spencer was far from the shit friend in the whole Spencer Caleb and Hanna triangle, that status moreso falls on Hanna and Caleb. Hanna made it clear she was over Caleb, and Spencer made sure to not do anything until Hanna told her to find out if Caleb likes her too, she said she would never, which means she was never going to take it anywhere because of her friendship with Hanna. But Hanna gave her permission. Caleb chose to cheat on Spencer with Hanna because they still had feelings for each other and ignored them instead of just admitting the truth and not pushing it away. They both let Spencer fall in love with Caleb, and then broke her heart which led to her messing up things.
She was going for what she needed 😁
Spencer realising Hanna is an evil twin imposter: This can’t be Hanna, I don’t have an urge to be mean to her.
Just as an aside, they dropped the whole subplot and characterization of spencer actually loving interior design, but they allude to it multiple times - in the premiere about her re-doing the bar, a deleted scene that talks about the summer classes she took at Hollis being about interior design, and then in the finale when she works with Allison to redo the Lost Woods. I think that is meant to be what she is passionate about if left to her own devices.
Hyped for mona deep dive !
anyone who has watched PLL knows that she was the baddest bitch on that series
Same
@@lizmarie894 but in the later seasons they wasted the potential of Mona
@@leeoconnell2572 they unfortunately butchered every character later on .. however if I had to choose a character it’d definitely be her.
@@leeoconnell2572 trueeee, they did her so dirty am so upset.
The wasted potential of Melissa is just heartbreaking. I really believed she had something she was hiding, like something really serious that could change the show but nope.
there was so much wasted material from the early seasons that i still think about:
- nat team (forgot what it was called lol)
- melissa's suspiciousness and why jason saw her and cece/alison/bethany talking the night alison went 'missing' (she literally could've been a good villain).
- wilden and his connection with jason, melissa, ian, cece, and garret.
- alison and her summer with cece.
also i would've loved if they explained more how the girls and alison became friends and the dilaurentis/hastings relationship.
I think why I loved Spencer the most is because of Troian. She could be really mean, but Troian gave such a nuanced performance it made me relate to Spencer a lot. I also think Troian is the reason Spencer became the main character because comperatively (and I’m not saying the other actresses are bad) Troian was the stand-out one and carried the show, closely followed by Sasha. But that’s just my opinion, don’t come for me 😅
The first ones to figure out spencer has a twin were blind Jenna and a horse. I think that says it all 😂
The actress for Spencer did such an amazing job! I honestly wish they did her character better than they did. Honestly each character really could have been done way better than what the writers did smh
Serena when u do a analysis on alison could u talk about her mishandled redemption arc
I really hated the redemption arc for her it was really stupid it totally alison should had either remain a villain or stayed dead reminds me of season 13 of supernatural where the writers tried to give Lucifer a redemption arc which I truly found so disgusting 😬🤯🥶😠😡🤬🤢🤮💩
She shouldd omgg
Honestly, it kind of feels like the only reason Ezra was kidnapped was because the writers realized the A.D. reveal couldn't happen at the same time as the wedding. They decided he is kidnapped because the fans need to see Aria and Ezra get married. Seriously, the reveal would be the exact same if he wasn't there, so what even is the point...
Such a good breakdown of everything that was great about Spencer and TERRIBLE about Spencer. There were a lot of problems that I could sense while I watched, but I didn't really have words for them until this video, like Spencer feeling so unsafe around her family. Like yes, I knew that, but I didn't know I knew that, if that makes sense.
I'm so hype for the Alison and Mona videos, I have so many thoughts about both of them, Alison especially.
Troian bellesario is so classy and beautiful and her acting is absolutely amazing ....she's underrated as an actress for sure
1 hour video….yes yes yes 💖
haha thankyou xxx
Omg I remember when Spencer’s mom was so calm at the police station saying “we know about you and Ian” like it was so chill
When you mentioned that Hanna should've figured out A in season two it really made me think about the impact the scenes in season 3 between Mona and Hanna in the mental hospital would've had. For me, it would've made Hanna's friendship with Mona seem more real and shown a better side to her, rather than feeling like Hanna was just visiting her for information or that she felt kinda bad. From what I've seen so far Hanna is really unlikable and I think that having Hanna be the one to figure out Mona was A and sort of forgiving her anyway would've made her a much better character.
I’ve come to the conclusion that you should’ve been a writer on the show. Your ideas are always so good
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I got my tea and some snacks ready ☕️ 🍉 I'm here for the 1 hour deep dive 🙌🏾
I loved the last season between Spencer and her mother. When she described adopting her it really touched me
Wonderful analysis as usual! Yes, Aria seemed to be the writers’ favorite character, thus the unspoken main character for the first few seasons…Then it switched to Spencer
I loved Spencer seasons 3-5. I kind of just can't stand everything season 7 lol
The final season was totally crap and the finale was so lame and anticlimactic just like with dexter and supernatural 🤢🤮😠😡🤬🤯😬
The only reason I ever watched season 7 was because I was like, "well, I made it this far, might as well complete it".
@@meghnagoel6766 me too lol. I watched the pilot when it premiered and stuck with it long after it stopped making sense. Still disappointed in how they ruined so much. Allison should have stayed evil, Ezra should have never known Allison beforehand, and everything with Cece and Bethany shouldn't have happened that way. Like, if Allison had to have an unknown relative it should have at least not been the woman who dated her brother
Spencer will forever be my favorite character of all time, but they really messed with how they went about her character. Spencer’s recurring adderall issue should be more emphasized and explored. She wasn’t taking drugs do he a rebellious outcast or just for shits and giggles, but rather to keep up with grades and the A mystery. She was so consumed with being perfect and the smartest in her field that it lead ro serious emotional trauma with the drugs. I also didn’t like how many family reveals there were within the show. It was almost like every season had something new within the family that was just added in rather than having a rooted storyline. It would have been fine for Jason to be the half sibling and for Spencer to be adopted, but did Jessica really need a twin? Did Spencer need a twin? The writers should have implemented Melissa more because she would have been an amazing A! She was there from season 1, had a bad relationship with Spencer and hated Ali with the whole Ian thing, it made so much sense. By downgrading Melissa’s role in the show (she had a more prominent one within the books) the actress found other roles and thus was written out of pll despite being a great red herring. I also didn’t like how they downplayed Andrew’s role, as he was her longest relationship within the books and was a genuine guy. It would be nice to see them go from competitors to lovers and develop a strong bond! Also despite Spoby seeming cute they weren’t that great for one another. Toby inadvertently sent her to Radley by joining the A team sending Spencer down an emotional spiral, then all the secrets they hid from one another etc…I’m so sick of the pll writers forcefeeding us toxic relationships but acting like it’s cute because the actors are attractive
Haven’t watched the whole thing yet but this is a great analysis so far. I lost a lot of respect for Marlene when she turned Ali into a simp. Alison Dilaurentis could have been the best TV sociopath of our time but no..she & the writing team literally fucked it up! I understand that there will be plot holes in a show because they can’t cover everything but there are soooo many of them!
Also at some point Spencer became TOO smart. Like, she just knows everything because the writers are too lazy to find betters way to do exposition dumps or find realistic solutions to the problems the girls face.
i agree
I know it’s a huge ask… but would you consider rewatching the series and doing commentaries/reviews of each episode? I would loooove to hear your thoughts on all the little details that could’ve been better, cliffhangers unresolved, theories from your first time watching, etc! Your videos are so great and I have really been enjoying hearing your thoughts on the show! 💕
i definitely could in the future if i had a patreon etc. or something like that but for my main channel i think it would make it a little too PLL focused when i do talk about other shows. xx
I know there was no time, as Spencer's twin was revealed in the last episode, but something that could have saved it would be Spencer reacting to having a twin. But her twin was just kidnapped by Mona, and its almost like her twin was undone as soon as it was done. I don't agree with how Alison reacted to CeCe and how she discarded her friends and their trauma because CeCe was her sibling but it was an interesting reaction... even if it was ruined by CeCe's murder almost immediately. But not only was there no build up but there was no reaction really...
I think Melissa had the disdain for Spencer because she thought she killed Alison (it was Bethany Young) and she covered it up.
I remember in the flashback episode in season 2 - ‘The First Secret’: Melissa was very complimentary of Spencer and bragging about her to Ian for running for student president and for her results I think?
Melissa most likely had resentment for Spencer because she covered up a crime (even though Spencer didn’t hit Bethany, it was Mona) but since Spencer was speeding and had tension with Alison, it was easy to think it was her.
Melissa (like her parents) was all about image and was put on a pedestal by her parents and everyone she surrounded herself with, as she is both highly educated and very successful in extra curriculars. The night Alison went missing would’ve destroyed everything Melissa created for herself, if it got out and her parents would not let that happen either.
Idk why nobody is talking about you THUMBNAIL it is absolute FIRE🙌🙌
in the books Spencer’s family sees her differently coz she was born from a surrogate (she finds this out coz she was left out of her grandmother’s will coz she didn’t see her as part of the family) and I think that’s a lot better story…they could have had her mom be Jessica’s twin (sometimes moms can’t physically get pregnant so they have someone else’s eggs too) it could’ve even been something they discussed earlier in the show and then later finds out she was Jessica’s twin’s baby (idk her name I’m forgetting it) and even the twin thing could have worked out coz surrogates are more likely to carry twins
You're the first TH-cam creator who makes me happy when uploading an hour long video
Emily was loyal to Alison and only to her, and that made her weak.
Unpopular opinion: I liked Spencer and Caleb together. I thought they had great chemistry, and it was a new relationship to explore without introducing a brand new character. The only reason I didn't like it was that it was a waste of time because it was used as a way to push Caleb and Hanna back together. So to me, that meant there was no point in breaking Hanna and Caleb up.
I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I feel the same way that you do. I really didn’t mind Caleb and Spencer together after the time jump. The two of them had always had good chemistry together in their scenes prior to the jump. They had similar personalities and ways of thinking that made their team ups and interactions before the time jump fun to watch. During season 5, I even thought they might date at some point, and their relationship after the jump was cute, but sadly, it went downhill rather quickly.
I agree with you about them feeling more of a relationship created purely to create conflict within the story and the group, but it also bothered me how the writers made it happen. Hanna and Caleb were legitimately the strongest and healthiest couple on the show and before the time jump, they were moving to New York and everything was great. It never felt believable to me that their relationship was strong enough to endure everything they had been through since season one (bad family lives, homelessness, finding and reuniting with his birth mother, all that Ravenswood mess, Hanna’s mom’s arrest, everything A did to both of them, the dollhouse,etc),These events were very life changing and traumatic and Caleb and Hanna always helped each other through the worst of it and brought out the best in one another. But then the time jump wanted us to believe that a “normal “ life and the demands of a bad boss at work was the true kryptonite that would bring all those YEARS of love and respect down and result in such an awful break up.
Besides their break up being out of character, you knew they would reunite before the show ended, which made Spencer and Caleb doomed from the start. They could have been cute to watch but they quickly had Caleb reverting to his feelings for Hanna and they turned Spencer into a jealous middle school acting girl that was only concerned about keeping her man above everything else to the point where she gets wasted and messes up their plan and even behaves as if she doesn’t think saving a kidnapped Hanna is a time sensitive scenario. She doesn’t want to really find her and is more worried about Caleb skipping lunch with her or not answering her texts ASAP which is not the Spencer Hastings that I knew and loved while watching the show. I’m sorry this got a bit long but I rarely find others that don’t hate Spencer and Caleb and your post reminded me that I wasn’t the only one lol.
I absolutely love your videos, I’m currently watch pll again and find myself analysing every scene now😂
When I first watched the show, I was convinced that Mona was in love with Hanna. Rewatching it, I think she was, which makes her talking to Spencer instead of Hanna even stranger. I honestly believed we would discover someone else had been A all along, and used Mona’s crush and stalking against her to make her take the fall.
After Allison's return, i dont think her and Spencer even share a scene where they're actually friends/friendly.
i appreciate the long vid so much serena! thanks for working so hard. 😁🥰
omg i would love to see your thoughts on the characters retarted in the books, the differences, what you think they could have put in and not replaced. and oh, when you make the alison video, could you address the character in the spin off as well? ps.: i would also love to hear what you think the characters would add in the spin off and their storyline, maybe fix some mistakes in the series itself. looking forward to it, i'm obsessed with your pll videos! very well done
i liked spencer but i feel like alison and aria are the most interesting and ARIA SHOULD HAVE BEEN A!!!
Yeah I’m in the aria as A camp too!
I'm always in two minds about Aria because Aria as the weird and inconsistent whiny character in actual pll canon I hate. But scheming, mastermind vicious Aria in the fans' collective head canon I am obsessed with.
i love this type of entertainment! stuff not everyone is doing and clearly took a lot of effort to script, film, and edit. great work per usual! 💗
thanks hun xxx
i recently found ur videos as im rewatching pll and i’m literally obsessed. love hearing your opinions on things ❤️
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12:50 I always thought the reason Melissa acted so strangely and mistrustfully around spencer was because she was under the impression that spencer had murdered Alison
wow im fast. im about to head to vacation in an hour and this is perfect. spencer is my favorite and my friend actually loves to compare my work ethic to hers lol also my mom being in law (she is a professor at uni).
in the books spencer actually is conceived via a surrogate and her grandma kinda didnt like her