BTW, there is a chance an unmarked patrol car will spawn in traffic while in City Center and Heywood. The unit will still appear on the mini map however and will not spawn during a chase.
@@ThekillergreeceYeah, I encountred that as well. From a technical stand point, it seems to be a bug on how the game selects variations on traffic vehicles (cops included). For me, it is rare to see a normal cruiser (Overlord model) on patrol but wrecked versions and the unmarked unit were common.
2.1 Update: Patrol cars responding at 1-star will now have their lights and sirens running. The volume of the sirens have also been increased. These are unlisted changes.
Few things to note as I forgot to put them in the video: - Entering a vehicle with a dead passenger in it in sight of police will trigger a response. - If you got stars, certain services such as drop points, elevators, etc will be unavailable until the stars are cleared. - You may see unmarked Villeforts at better funded districts. I didn't put it in the video because I believed it was a bug. They are always colored in black and got grille lighting. This is how they look for anyone who is curious! streamable.com/89p93p As of Update 2.1, the police will now respond code 3 to crime scenes.
58:22 I hate it when there's a perfectly fine police vehicle in the game that the police don't even use for literally no reason. Anyway, your videos are always a huge treat, so thank you so much for your hard work!
I was in santo domingo and ended up watching a cop shoot a gang member that was surrending just for the hell of it. It's pretty cool to catch things like that every now and then to remind you that the NCPD isn't exactly a clean department
When I was walking around in one of the better neighborhoods I also came across an unmarked police car. Its basically the newer sedan with the side scroll text but completely black. Only seen one thrice.
@58:23 The NCPD DO USE the Merrimac MSP3 Dreadnought in chase duties. I've had multiple of them chase me around town full of trigger happy officers. I don't remember seeing it in patrol though. Likely the latest patch enabled that.
Who remembers the first mission where you save that lady from the the gang and one of the things they show you is the MaxTac team, and then you never see them again.
You gotta love games where the Police System is wired so Officers will attempt to kill you for something that could easily be an accident! Crashing a car next to Police IRL: "Oh, my God! Sir, can you hear me? Look, don't worry, we're going to call for an Ambulance! Can I get you some tea whilst you wait?" Crashing a car next to Police in games like GTA or CyberPunk: "YOU'RE DEAD, MOTHERF**KER! CONTROL, THIS IS UNIT TWENTY SIX, I NEED EVERY GODDAMN MAN YOU CAN SPARE ME, I'M DEALING WITH ONE REAL SICK SUNNABI**H HERE!"
nice, this is a proper police system, your efforts are much apprechiated! Just wish there was an actual arrest mechanic, if cops shooot on sight for everything, it doesn't make them better than regular enemies, plus car chases are no fun
they aim at you at tell you to back off from trespassing zones, but that's about it. i don't expect going to police station or even going to prison upon being arrested, they can even just make a cop move towards you at 1 star and cuff you, giving you a game over screen prompting you to restart, it's fine by me.
Car chases are no fun?? WTF? Try the chaotic hours long vehicle cat and mouse games that can occur if you are good enough a driver. Plenty of times, without actively shooting Police (you can only ram them) you must possess enough skill to increase from one star to evade a 5 star level alert with Maxtac disabling your vehicles, while you run to another vehicle and escape again, with a ton of bullets whizzing everywhere and road blocks galore. You cannot shoot back except at a standstill to help disengage your vehicle. You are missing out on a great fun portion of the game with that mindset. Most people cannot drive with a darn.
@@jessiegunther1079 your experience with other game(s) doesn't apply to this game. Sometimes after an extended shootout, your tire(s) will be shot and your vehicle is hard to control, but you can do the same back to them and then jump to another vehicle and lead them on another wild goose chase.
Very cool video! An amazing analysis of the behavior of law enforcement agencies in games. I really liked the improved system of behavior and reaction of the police. In my opinion, the police from Cyberpunk is the best competitor to the police from GTA 5. It even seems to me that the new police reaction system in CP77 is better and more interesting than in GTA 5. However , I want even more new ideas for the NCPD police . 1. For example, the work of ncpd aviation is not shown at all, except for the amphibious transport Max So. Where Zettatech Octant, Zetatech Valgus , Zetatech Atlus NCPD, Militech Wyvern, Militech Griffin . In addition to MaxTac, the police should also use Militech Manticore, for swat squads It is very strange why this aircraft is not used. We are waiting for these guys. 2. Strange, but I have not seen the work of Automated Defense Units. I remember these turrets very well, but I didn't see them here. We're waiting. 3. Why there is no arrest system at the first level of the search. And why cops don't use non-lethal weapons, batons, tactical riot shields. It would be nice to introduce this into the game. 4. The potential of the game in terms of transport is huge. Why not, for example, give NCPD cops more heavy vehicles. Where Behemoth, Basilisk. Cops need powerful trucks 5. Road blocks. For example, they can be reinforced with barriers, spikes, turrets. 6. It would be nice to transport the Minotaur Robot to the crime scene. For example, on the same Behemoth. 7. Need more transport for MaxTac. 8. More units and transport for Border guard and Sheriff's service.
If you want to have some purely cat and mouse car chase fun, try this: Rules: 1. You cannot use any quickhacks at all. 2. You can only shoot from vehicle, not outside it. 3. You cannot use any external mods affecting your health 4. You can only use (borrow) other people's vehicles, including the Police. 4a. Later, you can use your own vehicles when you become a better driver. 5. You start the police alerts by running over an NCPD officer or more. 6. You increase stars by running over, escaping and other damage using only your vehicle. 7. You increase star alert level while escaping chases, not shooting necessarily. 8. You must escape Maxtac, multiple times if you get good. 9. Bonus points if your character is under level 40. The object is to get really good in escaping the inevitable tornado of violence the NCPD and MaxTac will place on you. Obviously, you will need to borrow multiple vehicles and you can drag the police response to your select gang for extra fun. If you get really good, they will give up the chase and just sit in their vehicles waiting for you to show up, while certain law enforcement will be crawling the city searching and chasing you. For the hardcore, do all this while in 1st person driving mode and use rear cameras to record the trail of devastation. As an example, I've escaped MaxTac successive droppoints 3 times in a row purely by driving. To end the game, you can log off or just enter a known safe zone. I'm having more fun with this then the actual game. Hours long FUN. 😄 Bonus FUN: Drag a slew of police to the narrow pier (which pier is your choice), object is to stay in a vehicle on the pier, while dunking the incoming police vehicles. My record thus far is 6 police vehicles before I dunked myself. I took underwater photos of it. Loads of FUN. 😀
Maybe at some point you can do a police analysis on GTA V's mod "Realism Dispatch Enhanced", as they improve on the police system and add multiple new departments, improving on the game's police npcs!
Police disappears too fast, you hide like maybe 10 seconds or 20 and they're gone. When cars find you they don't engage in pursuit because the AI is simplistic. It just rams you in the opposite lane. The only cool moments is when they actually try to engage pursuit from behind, which can be short in duration or just rare
well while the system is not bad it needs to be refined, I hope that future patches will give us the drones back and it refines the system for the best
Never understood why people complained about the police, its like criticizing Witcher 3 or Skyrim because the guards dont climb on their horses to chase you like they do in RDR1. This game isnt GTA, the police is like the last reason why you're supposed to buy it. Its like as soon as a game takes place in a city where you can drive cars all the casuals instantly think its supposed to be some GTA clone even if in reality its all the opposite, its like if i complained that GTA only has one playstyle and doesnt have talent trees and multiple builds, scripted missions that give you a game over if you try to leave or doesnt have choices during dialogues
The police are a significant threat in the tabletop as well, so it's rather silly to not expect them to be a threat in the "faithful video game adaptation".
a bit disappointed that the chatter in 2077 is so lacking comparing to games like GTA, Watchdogs, NFS or even Mafia, aside from responding to 1 star calls there's nearly no voicelines for officers pursuing you ("gonna pit him", "officer down need backup", "suspect moving southbound", "anyone checking the alleyway".etc).
"An atmosphere of apathy and corruption pervades the department, while many officers on the street react with brutality and aggression due to the stress and nature of their work." - NCPD lore. cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Night_City_Police_Department
Hi! Why is there no new content for so long? We are waiting for more reviews of the behavior of cops in games.😉 We are waiting for a video about the behavior of law enforcement agencies in such games Just Cause 1-2, Saints Row 2
Before 2.0, the game will spawn a huge squad of Agents in riot gear that will quickly rush the area (in addition to the Agents already present). 2.0 simply added the ability for them to appear in their unique patrol cars. Militech will assist when at 3 stars and higher.
I have close to 300 hours on Cyberpunk 2077 since launch, but I find the cop update extremely immersion breaking. Even during my first playthrough during launch, I typically don't interact with police as I focus more on Gigs but after launching a new playthrough with PL I noticed the Cop Spawning is extremely weird. I have no idea why there are so many deadbeat cops wandering around in areas deep in Maelstrom territory in Watson, seeing 1 cop stroll around every street feels off. Also, at night usually Maelstrom blocks certain streets off at night shooting guns but cops don't do anything about it. It just feels extremely filler and would much prefer less walking cops since they don't really do anything anyway. However, while I don't really mess around with Cop's I appreciate CDPR trying to fill it out and improve upon on the content but from what I can tell so far, they gotta really work on the AI if possible. I think CDPR is having trouble primarily due to the Engine limitations on AI behaviour which limits interactions that can be done.
I wish there were arresting option before shooting at sight for minor crimes. However, still much better than the launch version.
Yeah was hoping that as well.
The minor-est crime is murder but yeah
Love how real sirens just make you go, "oh shit cops" it's like the NCPD deliberately designed their sirens to cause distress and despair
Yeah, and this sirens barely make any loud noise. That would be bad in real life.
BTW, there is a chance an unmarked patrol car will spawn in traffic while in City Center and Heywood. The unit will still appear on the mini map however and will not spawn during a chase.
I deduced it as a bug just like with the police driving exploded police cruisers.
@@ThekillergreeceYeah, I encountred that as well. From a technical stand point, it seems to be a bug on how the game selects variations on traffic vehicles (cops included). For me, it is rare to see a normal cruiser (Overlord model) on patrol but wrecked versions and the unmarked unit were common.
Wow, this game went from having one of the worst police response systems to one of the best!
I love how there's SWAT officers AND MaxTec!
2.1 Update:
Patrol cars responding at 1-star will now have their lights and sirens running.
The volume of the sirens have also been increased. These are unlisted changes.
That's true. I know that the developers did, in fact, watch this video so it's possible they made some changes/fixes.
@@ThekillergreeceHow did you know? By the way, your content is fantastic and underrated!
@@jazzysoggy12 Thank you! Let's just say that some of them may or may not have contacted me on Discord. :)
Amazing people, that's for sure.
Few things to note as I forgot to put them in the video:
- Entering a vehicle with a dead passenger in it in sight of police will trigger a response.
- If you got stars, certain services such as drop points, elevators, etc will be unavailable until the stars are cleared.
- You may see unmarked Villeforts at better funded districts. I didn't put it in the video because I believed it was a bug. They are always colored in black and got grille lighting. This is how they look for anyone who is curious! streamable.com/89p93p
As of Update 2.1, the police will now respond code 3 to crime scenes.
It's been a month or two since the last video and it's completely worth it!
Thanks for clarifying!
58:22 I hate it when there's a perfectly fine police vehicle in the game that the police don't even use for literally no reason.
Anyway, your videos are always a huge treat, so thank you so much for your hard work!
Just say you hate everything and cry about it 😂
It's called expressing an opinion, and I just don't like seeing potential wasted.
@@Oversamma womp womp
@yungslayz578 the hell is wrong with you? Dude just wishes that car was used as more then a prop lmao.
@@yungslayz578 just say your feeling a little angry
I was in santo domingo and ended up watching a cop shoot a gang member that was surrending just for the hell of it. It's pretty cool to catch things like that every now and then to remind you that the NCPD isn't exactly a clean department
When I was walking around in one of the better neighborhoods I also came across an unmarked police car. Its basically the newer sedan with the side scroll text but completely black. Only seen one thrice.
@58:23 The NCPD DO USE the Merrimac MSP3 Dreadnought in chase duties. I've had multiple of them chase me around town full of trigger happy officers. I don't remember seeing it in patrol though.
Likely the latest patch enabled that.
Who remembers the first mission where you save that lady from the the gang and one of the things they show you is the MaxTac team, and then you never see them again.
You mean Trauma Team?
I think I saw them once and that is it
that was trauma, not maxtac
You gotta love games where the Police System is wired so Officers will attempt to kill you for something that could easily be an accident!
Crashing a car next to Police IRL: "Oh, my God! Sir, can you hear me? Look, don't worry, we're going to call for an Ambulance! Can I get you some tea whilst you wait?"
Crashing a car next to Police in games like GTA or CyberPunk: "YOU'RE DEAD, MOTHERF**KER! CONTROL, THIS IS UNIT TWENTY SIX, I NEED EVERY GODDAMN MAN YOU CAN SPARE ME, I'M DEALING WITH ONE REAL SICK SUNNABI**H HERE!"
That's also the American police if your not white most of the time
@@jackf3670funny, I laff
@@TemmieContingenC Are you being sarcastic?
Yeah, it's a joke that has been done into the ground. Wasn't too funny in the first place@@unknowndata3841
tbf its cyberpunk, could just be explained as the police being on edge and jumpy with all the mf crime in night city
I noticed the cops dont like it when you k!ll random enemys minding there own business, kinda odd because it says they are wanted
The legend is back when we needed him the most! Keep up the good work, please!
im glad to see your still uploading, i hope you don't quit anytime soon
Nice video but to be honest, I don't like the new siren they gave police cars. The older one fit the game more, even if it was weird as hell.
Nah it would've gotten way too annoying after some time
The problem with the new ones imo is that they are too quiet
The older one sounded like dubstep tbh
nice, this is a proper police system, your efforts are much apprechiated! Just wish there was an actual arrest mechanic, if cops shooot on sight for everything, it doesn't make them better than regular enemies, plus car chases are no fun
they aim at you at tell you to back off from trespassing zones, but that's about it. i don't expect going to police station or even going to prison upon being arrested, they can even just make a cop move towards you at 1 star and cuff you, giving you a game over screen prompting you to restart, it's fine by me.
@@thegamingvillager2392exactly, i mean, its a gave over screen if you die, so why not
Car chases are no fun?? WTF? Try the chaotic hours long vehicle cat and mouse games that can occur if you are good enough a driver. Plenty of times, without actively shooting Police (you can only ram them) you must possess enough skill to increase from one star to evade a 5 star level alert with Maxtac disabling your vehicles, while you run to another vehicle and escape again, with a ton of bullets whizzing everywhere and road blocks galore. You cannot shoot back except at a standstill to help disengage your vehicle.
You are missing out on a great fun portion of the game with that mindset.
Most people cannot drive with a darn.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus i speak from experence of similar games, like Mafia 3., where they shot my tires within like 5 seconds most of the time
@@jessiegunther1079 your experience with other game(s) doesn't apply to this game. Sometimes after an extended shootout, your tire(s) will be shot and your vehicle is hard to control, but you can do the same back to them and then jump to another vehicle and lead them on another wild goose chase.
extremely thorough analysis! great work!
I hoped they'd use the legendary Cyberpunk police siren during chases too. That'd be frightening and amazing.
...a mod will fix it...
You didn't include Netwatch. They're pretty much the same as Trauma Team though so little to say.
Very cool video! An amazing analysis of the behavior of law enforcement agencies in games. I really liked the improved system of behavior and reaction of the police. In my opinion, the police from Cyberpunk is the best competitor to the police from GTA 5. It even seems to me that the new police reaction system in CP77 is better and more interesting than in GTA 5.
However , I want even more new ideas for the NCPD police .
1. For example, the work of ncpd aviation is not shown at all, except for the amphibious transport Max So. Where Zettatech Octant, Zetatech Valgus , Zetatech Atlus NCPD, Militech Wyvern, Militech Griffin .
In addition to MaxTac, the police should also use Militech Manticore, for swat squads
It is very strange why this aircraft is not used. We are waiting for these guys.
2. Strange, but I have not seen the work of Automated Defense Units. I remember these turrets very well, but I didn't see them here. We're waiting.
3. Why there is no arrest system at the first level of the search. And why cops don't use non-lethal weapons, batons, tactical riot shields. It would be nice to introduce this into the game.
4. The potential of the game in terms of transport is huge. Why not, for example, give NCPD cops more heavy vehicles. Where Behemoth, Basilisk. Cops need powerful trucks
5. Road blocks. For example, they can be reinforced with barriers, spikes, turrets.
6. It would be nice to transport the Minotaur Robot to the crime scene. For example, on the same Behemoth.
7. Need more transport for MaxTac.
8. More units and transport for Border guard and Sheriff's service.
Great video ! Thanks for documenting all this
With such massive improvement and that's apparently not enough
Guess it's true when they say you really can't please everyone...
the issues will be fixed in 3.0 coming 2026 🤣
If you want to have some purely cat and mouse car chase fun, try this:
Rules:
1. You cannot use any quickhacks at all.
2. You can only shoot from vehicle, not outside it.
3. You cannot use any external mods affecting your health
4. You can only use (borrow) other people's vehicles, including the Police. 4a. Later, you can use your own vehicles when you become a better driver.
5. You start the police alerts by running over an NCPD officer or more.
6. You increase stars by running over, escaping and other damage using only your vehicle.
7. You increase star alert level while escaping chases, not shooting necessarily.
8. You must escape Maxtac, multiple times if you get good.
9. Bonus points if your character is under level 40.
The object is to get really good in escaping the inevitable tornado of violence the NCPD and MaxTac will place on you.
Obviously, you will need to borrow multiple vehicles and you can drag the police response to your select gang for extra fun.
If you get really good, they will give up the chase and just sit in their vehicles waiting for you to show up, while certain law enforcement will be crawling the city searching and chasing you.
For the hardcore, do all this while in 1st person driving mode and use rear cameras to record the trail of devastation.
As an example, I've escaped MaxTac successive droppoints 3 times in a row purely by driving. To end the game, you can log off or just enter a known safe zone.
I'm having more fun with this then the actual game.
Hours long FUN. 😄
Bonus FUN: Drag a slew of police to the narrow pier (which pier is your choice), object is to stay in a vehicle on the pier, while dunking the incoming police vehicles. My record thus far is 6 police vehicles before I dunked myself. I took underwater photos of it. Loads of FUN. 😀
Got into a traffic accident? Execution.
Hit a wall by accident? Execution.
Maybe at some point you can do a police analysis on GTA V's mod "Realism Dispatch Enhanced", as they improve on the police system and add multiple new departments, improving on the game's police npcs!
Police disappears too fast, you hide like maybe 10 seconds or 20 and they're gone. When cars find you they don't engage in pursuit because the AI is simplistic. It just rams you in the opposite lane. The only cool moments is when they actually try to engage pursuit from behind, which can be short in duration or just rare
oh nice was waiting for this
I was looking forward to the video given the latest update of the game
It's almost as if the absence of helicopter snipers and shit make for a more engaging and fair police experience
Yay it’s out! 😃
well while the system is not bad it needs to be refined, I hope that future patches will give us the drones back and it refines the system for the best
Never understood why people complained about the police, its like criticizing Witcher 3 or Skyrim because the guards dont climb on their horses to chase you like they do in RDR1. This game isnt GTA, the police is like the last reason why you're supposed to buy it. Its like as soon as a game takes place in a city where you can drive cars all the casuals instantly think its supposed to be some GTA clone even if in reality its all the opposite, its like if i complained that GTA only has one playstyle and doesnt have talent trees and multiple builds, scripted missions that give you a game over if you try to leave or doesnt have choices during dialogues
The police are a significant threat in the tabletop as well, so it's rather silly to not expect them to be a threat in the "faithful video game adaptation".
"the most realistic open world to date"
Its funny how you can just hit a wall and then be immediately shot for it
Can you make a police analysis in NFS Rivals?
Great vid! Can you also do an analysis on the Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005)?
Didn't think netwatch involved themselves with this. Thought ncpd was the one hacking your vehicles.
a bit disappointed that the chatter in 2077 is so lacking comparing to games like GTA, Watchdogs, NFS or even Mafia, aside from responding to 1 star calls there's nearly no voicelines for officers pursuing you ("gonna pit him", "officer down need backup", "suspect moving southbound", "anyone checking the alleyway".etc).
You know if you glitch outside the border the dispatch police are the nomads
damn i over exaggerated my expectations about the new update, the npcs still act so linear, not bad but not good as the old video games
Well shit I guess you really can't please everyone...
I wonder if CD Projekt fixed the crash every time I launch the game, and this game won't even let me play.
Ive seen vileforts undercover police cars but you cant enter them
Watching this later!
Cool!
man could you do a police behoviour analysis of just cause 3 and or 4
Where does the Thorton Merrimac MSP3 Dreadnought spawn?
waiting for Godfather 2006 police analys)
You should do the analysis on the GTA Stories games.
2:43 why they so pissed off?
"An atmosphere of apathy and corruption pervades the department, while many officers on the street react with brutality and aggression due to the stress and nature of their work." - NCPD lore. cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Night_City_Police_Department
@@Thekillergreece that makes more sense I haven’t played this game yet but it looks cool
Hi! Why is there no new content for so long? We are waiting for more reviews of the behavior of cops in games.😉
We are waiting for a video about the behavior of law enforcement agencies in such games Just Cause 1-2, Saints Row 2
I'm not interested to play those.
one question can you now fight border patrol and do you now need to croos the border every time and could you fight border patrol before 2.0
Before 2.0, the game will spawn a huge squad of Agents in riot gear that will quickly rush the area (in addition to the Agents already present). 2.0 simply added the ability for them to appear in their unique patrol cars. Militech will assist when at 3 stars and higher.
Is this the phantom livery version of the game?
Postal 2 Police Analysis
do a saints row 3 remake police behavior analysis
Cam you do a police behaviour analysis in saints row 3 remake it will be a lot of work
And SR 2 or Just Cause 1
New siren is horrible
Nah im not gonna sit through an hour+ video reading words on a screen
Man give this guy a break, he is a deaf peason and his voice when speaking English is very hard to hear
Watchdogs 1 and 2's police system are still better than this game....
God, enemy animations in this game are trash.
I have close to 300 hours on Cyberpunk 2077 since launch, but I find the cop update extremely immersion breaking. Even during my first playthrough during launch, I typically don't interact with police as I focus more on Gigs but after launching a new playthrough with PL I noticed the Cop Spawning is extremely weird. I have no idea why there are so many deadbeat cops wandering around in areas deep in Maelstrom territory in Watson, seeing 1 cop stroll around every street feels off. Also, at night usually Maelstrom blocks certain streets off at night shooting guns but cops don't do anything about it. It just feels extremely filler and would much prefer less walking cops since they don't really do anything anyway.
However, while I don't really mess around with Cop's I appreciate CDPR trying to fill it out and improve upon on the content but from what I can tell so far, they gotta really work on the AI if possible. I think CDPR is having trouble primarily due to the Engine limitations on AI behaviour which limits interactions that can be done.
You gotta do the Saints Row franchise