I’m just seeing this 4 years later. It’s incredible how every word resonates with me. Having Chiron in my 8th house has been like a perpetual ego death. I always wondered why I felt so different; so misunderstood; so lonely and so seemingly unlucky. This certainly explains a lot. Thank you!!
some people don't realize that the light can burn the moth. Having Chiron in the 8th house myself, people think I'm a nice person until they hurt me and I'm the devil. Revenge is sweet to my lips, even if it backfires.
Exactly! I always feel guilty about the revenge thoughts that I have but I feel like they hurt me so I hurt them, it's a bad cycle. (My Scorpio rising also plots and schemes for revenge as well).
Exactly!!!! I’m so glad you mentioned this ... I don’t necessarily seek revenge but as soon as ppl start pushing my boundaries I retaliate sharply and I don’t play with my boundaries at all ... the karma is I won’t develop deep relationships with ppl ... but that is a karma I am comfortable with and prefer
Totally understand what you guys are experiencing. Completely valid. I feel as though I’ve experienced this but am trying my best to look from a broader pov because it feels much better when I am disciplined yet compassionate. It’s definitely a balancing act however, I’m thankful for this.
That’s very Scorpio. They say, Capricorn revenge will wait until the day they get to see you fall, but Scorpio revenge will push you over the edge to ensure you do.
This explains so much! My heart has been crushed so many times, and those scars have taught me so much. I constantly attract people with problems, or rather, people that talk to me for like three minutes, just relaxes, and then just tell me their deepest problems, or the most horrible memories from their life. At parties I always end up alone with somebody, ask them 5 questions, and they break down crying. And I have had to learn to not always take in everything. Sometimes I have to avoid people with the wrong energies. Don't get me wrong, I love helping people understanding themselves better, but if I don't watch out, it drains me. Thank you
holy shit, that was so so deep. hit me really hard. I cried. all I can say is that shit hurt. being abandoned, it hurt real bad. being betrayed it hurt real bad.
why on earth did i ever come back to feel all this pain, abandonment intimacy issues??? it's too painful, it's suicidal, all i want is love and to be loved.
Nancy Gagnon thank you for sharing 😊 we are meant to be healers and by experiencing pain and hurt we become able to help others I agree it’s very painful there were times I questioned this as well and wondered why I had to expert with betrayal from the ones I loved the most Intimacy is where we are wounded
@@CarmenTurnerSchott it doesn't make sense...it's narcissistic... it's punishment. it's sad to think my whole life will always be this way...it's exhausting and i'm so tired.
Nancy Gagnon everything is based on our own individual perceptions... no your whole life won’t be this way unless you feel that way or always think it would be that way... Chiron in the 8th house has its troubles but think of it as a gateway to healing yourself and healing other people... look on the brighter side, you have experience of what’s it’s like to feel pain like no one else and u also have the ability to go out and inspire others because of what you been through. :)
This placement makes me so sad because this placement is my home. I’ve been bullied my whole life. By my mom, dad, siblings, peers, adults, etc. I hated myself so much growing up. I was sudicial at the age of 12 because I wanted a way out but I chose to stay because I didn’t want my mom to burry another child 💔. My mom told me from a very young age that I was ugly. She put me & my older sister (1yr apart) against each other. She used to say to me “ Oh you’re jealous of her because she looks better than you” & one night me & my dad got into an argument an he said to me & I’ll never forget it... He said “As ugly as you are no man will ever love you” I cried myself to sleep because I was in a really bad space mentally & emotionally. I’m 21 now & I’m just now going on my self love journey. Oh It’s been a journey & hopefully one day I can look back and say “I did it ! I love myself fully & I accept others love for me” 🙏🏾💔☹️🥺
Thank you so much for sharing You are strong and are meant to be a wounded healer and help others who have been through similar situations Hang in there my website has some articles you might like www.8and12houses.com/writings/articles ❤️🌹
@@keepinguphuh7973 aww thank you. I just turned 22, I went through an episode of psychosis and I thought for a few weeks I lost a part of me I’ll never get back but I’m feeling like myself again. Planning on going back to school sometime beginning of next year, wish me luck 🍀🤣🙏🏾. I hope all is well with you & yours. Be safe out there 🙏🏾
@@Usernpclookinahh Glad too hear your doing better , just keep a steady pace it can be a 10 way singular road to your destination but take your time and may I wish you and your loved ones a blessed travel 💪🏿💯
W🥺W...your sharing is really priceless. There's power in sacrifice and transparency. Lifting you up for the beacon of Light you ARE and "LightHouse" 🎁 you'll be for so many in your future. 🙏 Namaste'
I am sure everyone with Chiron in the 8th house has wondered, will I ever receive the happiness and true intimacy I truly desire on a deep level? At least for me, that is my hope. Chiron in the 8th house has been my hardest placement to accept. The pain has been unbearable at times and definitely leaves memorable scarring. At times I can wallow in sadness or have had bouts of anger bc of those experiences that hurt my heart so much. I think this placement is so deserving of love, as much as they have given to others. I hope to find mutual love, trust, and respect within relationships in my life after the healing work I have done. I wish we had a support group for Chiron in the 8th house placements lol. Much love everyone you are beautiful souls don’t forget🖤
Wow. That was the best information on Chiron in the 8th I've come across. I deeply resonated with all of it. I almost find it sad how strong and independent I've become. Actually, I'm quite afraid/hesitant when it comes to connection and vulnerability. Yes, being strong and independent is good but, omg, anyone who wants my trust and vulnerability has to be near saint-like or I'm not going to even bother. I am definitely discriminate. Almost abnormally so, however, the people I do end up letting in (anymore) are quality. I've been dating the same guy for going on 7 years and we are engaged to be married... I told him the other night, he better know that he will love me forever so I don't waste anymore of my time on him or I'm going to be SO PISSED!!! Lol Lord of my 8th house is in my first conjunct ascendant, AND Pluto is in my first 0 degrees Scorpio. So yeah. Lol. I also have Uranus in the 9th degree of Sag. I can get REALLY mad when I am hurt.
You don’t realize how much this means to me. This finally explains what I have been feeling and lived/live through. I know it’s a gift but it’s truly the wounded healer
Thank you very much again. I also have Chiron and the Moon in the 8th house. Through watching your videos including North Node Aries and Venus in the 12th house, I am coming to the realisation that it is all pointing towards one thing - to not be so selfless. I can see how my own selflessness has actually been destructive. The same thing keeps happening to me but with different people - I sacrifice much to help them and protect them from their dark sides and then they betray me. The idea of being more 'selfish' is something I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet as I feel like I would be going against who I truly am. But I trust my gut and it's telling me I'm on the right track ... Thank you so very much.
I’m happy you liked the videos and found them helpful I went through the same thing feeling like I had to change this deeper part of me- you can still be kind and caring but have stronger boundaries and learn from the experiences you have had. I am so different now than I used to be - with our moon and Chiron in 8th we have to be reborn into a stronger person and a healer. It’s okay to chose ourselves and take care of ourselves there is nothing wrong with that. We feel it’s wrong to focus more on our own needs but the truth is we can’t help anyone unless we take care of ourselves It took me many years to finally accept this ❤️🌹
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thank you so much indeed. I can already feel a transition beginning and I know that finding your videos are a part of this transition. Your words of comfort mean a lot to me. Your approach to astrology is more helpful to me than any astrologer I have ever come across as you are able to touch on the emotional aspects with incredible precision and explain it a way that is easy to understand. Thank you so much again.
Thank you for making this video. I have Chiron in the 8th in Pisces, conjunct the sun and north node. Life has been constant pain and suffering when it comes to dealing with other people. It's true what you said about people seem to want to hurt you if you have this placement. I've experienced this since I was a child. I would reach out to people for love and affection and be hurt in very cruel ways. All of my intimate relationships leave me devastated and broken in the end. We do give all and get little in return. I feel like I've healed all of my partners on a spiritual level and yet they end up pulling away from me. I don't really want to go it alone, but I'm starting to think there is no other way.
Thank you for sharing your experience. We need to be selective on who we let into our inner circle and trust. It's our greatest learning. Please join my 8th house Deep Soul Diver group on Facebook :) I think you would enjoy it.
same here... all my life, reaching out for love ... never felt it or received it in my entire life, even my own mother rejected, abused and abandoned me...and my dad did nothing but watch... i've attracted every loser there is in life...i'm so tired.
Don X Oh yes. My closest friend of 6 years that i felt i could’ve trusted with anything and everything turned out to be a narc. I also think all of my immediate family members are narcs too but that’s a story for another day. Our people exist we just gotta let them find us, trust me.I think there is hope for us. I think when we focus our attention inwardly, things get better. I’m now taking therapy to heal and get away from the huffle puffle to a feeling of peace and serenity. It’s all i can hope for these days. So hard to stay sane, but trying. I’m glad.Yeah I wouldn’t trade my life either, no matter how shitty life has been to me. I would never trade my story for someone else’s. At the end of this dark tunnel, my journey will someday mean something because then there is light.
Don X Or even though i’m not a very religious person, I remember this story so well. When Daniel was thrown in the lions Den. In this case people with 8h Chiron are Daniel because he refused to give up his virtue and what he believed in to please or akin to the pesticides in the kingdom that wanted to see him perish. When they threw him in the lions Den his fate in god kept him alive and god sealed the lions mouth and the lions did not rip him apart or harmed him. In return, the enemies that were plotting against daniel became gods enemies so they got thrown in that Den and feasted on. The lions didn’t leave Daniel because they weren’t hungry, they left Daniel because god refused to let them eat him. For us, i think keeping the faith like Daniel did is the best way to go. Have a very nice one yourself!
Thank you. This is the best explanation of Chiron in the 8th house, in my case in Pieces, as well and in conjunction with Saturn. I came to the same conclusion: "The true lesson is that we have to learn to depend on ourselves and making ourselves happy and learn to have that deep bond we are seeking with our own self." I have been hurting again and have been trying to find a way to deal with it, but this made me feel so much better now: "You can be happy, but you will need to embrace the wounding and healing cycle in your life that often involves people, family, friends, and loved ones. Wherever Chiron is, there will be a wound. Having Chiron in the eighth house is actually an amazing place to have it, because it truly heals us from the inside out. It is something that we need to embrace and believe that it is a part of our soul journey and that our soul chose this placement for learning." Thank you.
It's also interesting, that it's all linked well with my Jupiter in the 12th house close to my ASC in Leo, Neptune in the 4th house in Scorpio and my birthday on 21st December, just before the winter solstice, so I do feel like a spark in a dark showing the light for the ones in deep darkness.
I have a 8th house book on Amazon and two new books coming out this summer that are available for pre order on about sun signs and healing me a 12th house book ❤️🌹
I seriously hate having this placement. All the people in my life want me just to help them. Never the other way around. Now I’m reaching my Chiron return and I’m having a hard time handling it.
Loved your video & I truly felt what you were communicating. I am a sun, moon, mercury & chiron in Cancer. My moon, mercury, venus & chiron are in the 8th and I am a scorpio rising. "The light in the dark, a moth to the flame..." I'm truly moved with your words and i'm happy i came across this video. XO
I listened to this one probably every year...I forget about it, re-listen and each time receive more. 8th house Chiron/Pisces love, give waaay too much resulting in betrayal/lack of mutual esteem. Those that betray actually bring 8th house Chironer's reminders we repeatedly need. We need to be reminded not too give too much, resist sharing our private details and info...period! Reserve delicate, intimate, private info., things for Higher-Minded relationships that are tried and TRUE. When dealing with others no matter how wounded and in need of healing others appear or maybe. Never give ourselves, our focus & time away so easily. Stay in our lane (handling our own affairs, back-off to allow others to manage their's wholly). There are ways of compassionate association that don't result in betrayals. As much as we feel passionate about assisting others in healing and their worthiness to receive unconditional acceptance & love, we must also be equally passionate about maintaining protective self-care. Not becoming too drawn in, compulsory, obssessed with others healing. Some don't want that level of healing we wish for them. Perhaps superficiality, callousness and betrayals is a necessary intervention until we recognize the vicious patterns of obsession with "others" healing before we've mastered circumspective heart and mind "self-preservation" practices.
I looked for healing in others in the past but I have realized that it's only me and God at the end of the day. I defs got my identity through all the deaths and rebirths. I have tremendous wounds especially emotional...
Spectacular video!! This resonates with me in a profound way. My Chiron is in my 8th house in Taurus. Everything you described seems to be the theme of my life. I feel this inner wound that will never fade but it fuels me to find answers to heal. I give to my detriment. I also seem to attract sexually damaged people. It's good to get a clear picture of the energies I'm affected by. Thank you so much for sharing. I loved how you explained this placement.
People are usually triggered and mad at me for being so “childlike” and “pure”. Why do you want to get close to me just to pour salt all over me? When you dislike something you leave it alone am I right?
FaeryGlitter people like to drain us and use us for our energy them they discard us I find we attract selfish people We have to be cautious who we trust I learned this the hard way several times I always would see the good in all Now I am different bc if the pain others caused me I learned to protect myself and energy from those who only take take take ❤️🌹
I have been deep hurt by the love of my life. I am was trying to understand why he went out of his way to destroy the amazing love. This realizing made me weep. As I realize that there was no way to be happy in that union. But I know that I will over come this. I am pure love . Thank you so much for this.
This is amazing! Thank you for your analysis. I have Chiron in Taurus in the 8th house and you described my life completely. I also have Scorpio rising and I have been hurt so deeply by others, give my power away without realising it and am constantly everyone's therapist...it's draining. I am finally learning to take care of myself but there is so much guilt inside that it overwhelms me and I stop and start, over and over again. Chiron packs a wallop, wow x
This is definitely me. As I was listening I looked down and saw the time 12:12 on my phone. Looked it up and that totally goes along with this! Thank you so much for you work. Blessings 💙
"others trying to hurt me" was a gut hit, been trying to help others, got my Reiki Master but no certificate, but I have the attunements, i have been abused physically, mentally, emotionally, socially. I am now 44yrs old, got to researching, found you, chiron in taurus is coming up, i've been affected now going on 2 weeks, things are pressing again, my "teacher" has no response, i am alone again, just me and spirit with my chiron..thank you for this video. I know very little of astrology, been different all my life and just recently got my bearings to come out with my gifts to offer to help others; and now here in 2022 yet still in Pisces, my chiron has begun along with all of the unveiling of intentions of others currently around me, and yet the change of pressing forward is here....again thanks for this video*
Thank you for sharing I will give you my astrology site and I have an 8th house group you might like to join if you have FB Astro.com has free chart calculation I use Placidus system You can put your DOB in you will need exact time of birth am or pm on birth certificate etc time is important if you have a chart you can post in my group www.8and12houses.com
Very much true for me....8th house ♉️...with Chiron and my sun conjuct...just divorced narcissistic person...family is emotionally unsupportive....bulled as a kid....I like the bit about acceptance....yes my healing is about self sufficiency! Most def
Very interesting! Thank you for this video! I have a 03 degrees Leo chiron in eighth house. Throughout my years I've been deeply hurt and transformed into a much stronger minded woman but I do still feel vulnerable and almost like an easy target (because I can be too open and am so compassionate) . I completely get the magnetic healing energy! People tend to come to me for advice, to tell me their secrets and to confide in me. (oh and shoulder and hand massages) Ah I could go on and on.. 😩 This has been so helpful, going to check out your other videos :) thankyouu ✌️
Interesting insight, thanks! I have 8th house Chiron trine Pluto in 12th (3,5 degrees away from Asc). I was often wounded in childhood by the people I trusted the most, but as I became older, I discovered that people somehow started to be 'aware' of my presence and somehow became careful around me, I notice that often (Pluto on Asc in Scorp, I believe), so it's funny how it flipped over. But somehow I can 'smell' someone's emotional pain a mile away, when there's no imply on that at all. Guess it's the work of Pluto-Chiron trine.
I have Chiron in the 8th, as well as my Sun, and Venus. My life has been full of betrayal and loss. However, as you said, I have this transformative power, and I have amazed my own self at how far I have come as a result.
Your hair is so beautiful! I have Chiron in the 12th but in Scorpio... I always want to push out all of the 'intense and covered' emotions from others but not uncover my own. Great video!
I viewed it as the result of my weakness, the way sharks smell blood. I don't know if this made me more compassionate or just tougher with my boundaries. I also have black moon lilith in Aquarius so I fight even harder for social justice now.
8th house Cancer Chiron conjunct my South Node, ugh, I felt that. Betrayal from my own parents, "best friends" and ofc first loves... I'm a capricorn w/ scorpio rising and cancer moon on top of that so trust issues, I mean... "trust issues" it sounds like paranoia but when life really gives you betrayal from your loved ones all the time, it's more like "okayy lesson learned". I rely on my intuition 100% now because I dont want to cut myself too much from the outside world, but life's really testing me and I don't know how much longer I can cope with betrayal/abandonment/the feeling of having to be a loner forever. People just feed themselves off my deep empathy and healing power but whenever I need real support, there's no one for me (not playing the victim, just facts). If anybody has insight related to the Cancer and/or SN conjunction placements pls lemmeknow.
Hi... I have Capricorn sun... libra rising and also a cancer moon. I feel this deeply. We have to find the beauty in our scars and wear them like a golden blanket. It can be very selfless energy at times. Just know that the more you are willing to be the love that you want you will start to find it within yourself and in this crazy beautiful life. ...im still working on it 🌱❤
Thank you for this video. One degree Leo, on the cusp of Cancer, I have Jupiter, Uranus, Mercury and Ketu in Cancer, and Capricorn with the Rahu and Chiron in the 8th. It's been a tough go. This explains so much and makes me want to give myself and all of you a huge, cosmic hug. I think we're here to heal ourselves, our ancestors and those around us, but let's heal ourselves first. 🙏😇💜💜💜💜
I’m a Pisces sun. I have Chiron in the 8th in Scorpio I also have Venus, Jupiter & Uranus in the 12th too. It’s been rough. But I know I’m here to be of service to others through creative outlets but also to develop & learn deep internal & external self care for myself when i’m in alone time. The 12th house prevents me from feeling negative feelings around loneliness, but the eighth house in Chiron has caused deep hurtful situations then has me alone a lot after I would guess a lot of introverts in general who aren’t into astrology may have these placements too. Such weird placements - I feel like I’m an outcast - being the one to have no help but people depending on your help so much. And also attracting narcissists or energy vampires who want to drain and project on top of that too lol - it’s overwhelming. It’s really killed my ego. It’s brought me right to my internal core. But I study so much about people place & things when I’m alone, and I’ve really worked a lot on myself through astrology. Thank you for sharing your knowledge it’s been so comforting and helpful. It’s so helpful to have this information at a click of a finger because these placements have been so intense.
@@4chosen1s Thanknyiu so much for sharing your journey and your kind words 🌹❤️ You might like my books about the 8th and 12th houses www,CarmenTurnerSchott.com
Very true. I have both Chiron and Saturn are in the 8th house of Pisces. I was bullied as a kid and although I have plenty of people around me they only call when you they need want a healing or a reading.
Wow.. It was specific. Chiron in Leo in the 8h here. It stated with my own mother, who is deep down jealous of me. She was mean to me, she broke me in my spirit. I was a loner as a little girl, always reading, in my own planet. People used to find me weird. Also, not to sound cocky, I'm good looking, so I let you imagine what some girls tried to do to break me down. I was severely bullied in HS, fb groups etc. It was rough. Concernly my relationship, with Girls friend and lovers... What can I say? I was a narcissist magnet. People came to me with their pbs, I've always been a good counselor and listener. These are the one who betrayed me the most. I'm very good at healing people... But nobody's here for me. I like my therapist but she can't help me through everything 😂😭. When I meet someone, I'm always suspicious now. What's going to happen now? Every girl I'm trying to be cool with are undercover mean spirited girls. FUN FACT : I'm a scorpio men's magnet 😂. I'm actually in my spiritual awakening, and Oh god! I understood so much thing. Being alone is actually my cure. It helps me seeing clear... And now, I'm about to love myself endlessly and also, take care of my inner child.
Very informative, TY! I have Chiron in Cap. in 8th House, and also Pluto in Cap. in 8th...Yes, my many scars have given me a tougher skin, helping to protect the ultra sensitive skin below it. It has probably saved me in such a brutal world...TY, again. ;)
Thank you for sharing! I am glad you found it helpful-- visit my website and join my Facebook groups www.8and12houses.com 8th house group 12th house group Anything Astrology
So accurate for my Pisces 8th house Chiron conjunct and in between my Saturn and Mars. Such a hard placement to endure. Even at this point when I am my own best friend, I'm still being attacked by strangers, friends and my beloved.
Finding out I have Chiron in Scorpio was personally bad news for me. I’m beginning to feel like sex is a toxic tendency, as if only evil people should want sex. Sexual attraction is beginning to scare and offend me
Battling the same issues... I view sex as something only low-level people crave &”need” i am here to spiritually evolve not to have my time wasted with bullshit. As a spiritual being first, Sex just isn’t all what it’s cracked up to be in my opinion
I love this, Carmen; it is so timely for me, because Chiron is transiting my 8'th house at this time. I have had some deep insights on how I choose to use words, with its recent transit of my natal Mercury in my 8'th, and soon it will transit my Aries sun, also in my 8'th. I loved your class on 8'th and 12'th house astrology that you gave circa 2012-13 (?) It's wonderful to see you on TH-cam!
I've barely started watching the video, but am in awe of our commonalities. I just watched your video on North Node in Scorpio (which I have in the 3rd house), and now I find we both have Aries in Chiron in the 8th house!
After watching the rest of the video, I'm amazed at how much it described me. It sounds so much like my life experience, and my life path number in numerology is six, so it all connects. Thank you for this video!
I have Chiron (in Pisces) in the 8th opposed Uranus/Pluto/Juno in Virgo in the 1st. I was mostly single through my 20s. At my (younger) brother's wedding, which happened when I was 31, I remember standing there, thinking - when will my time come? Two years later, it did come, and I have been in relationships ever since. I'm now in my early 50s, and married. Yet, I have always been very ambivalent about relationships, and need lots of my own space. I attract people who want all my time and energy; I have to fight for me time. There is also a potent fear of rejection in this placement. I know I have held onto things for far too long for fear of being rejected. It's important to me to find Chiron's 'voice' and let it be heard.
Everything that you said was absolutely true and has been my experience for as long as I can recall.... WOW!! I really appreciate your openness and explanation. I am an Astrologer and a few months ago I read Chiron the rainbow bridge and finally found out what my house and sign placement truly means, I am Chiron in Aries/8th house.
I have North Node and Chiron in the 8th house... Everything you said is spot on! I'm a Death doula. What does the North node AND Chiron in my 8th house mean? 💜
North Node in 8th is your soul mission this lifetime your doing it! Chiron is wounded healer and you are a energy healer and help people in times of crisis Exactly what your doing ❤️🌹 www.carmenturnerschott.com
Hi, rewatching this as lately, I feel my Chiron wounds are popping up during eclipse season. I have Chiron in Taurus in the 8th house and Pluto in my first, as well as 8th and 12th house dominant, and I find that I attract and date either Scorpios or heavy 8th house people, like we can feel how wounded we all are and bond over that pain and intensity. They are also the people who I trust the most. This all rang so true, thank you. I can feel your pain as well and offering you a virtual 🤗 hug. Be well.
Very good explanation! I've got Chiron conjunct my moon (exact) in Aquarius. I have MAJOR trust issues and this helps me understand that more. For me, I have found being single and not emotionally attached helps quite a bit.
Chiron in 8th and Gemini. Aries sun Scorpio rising Sagittarius moon. I maried a man that was just like my mother. Then, I divorced the crap out of him. I used to curse people when they did something bad to me, but I leave things be now. Everyone will pay for hurting you. Don't be happy for anyone's suffering.
Thank u 🙏 that explains a lot to me. This probably why I felt a strong desire to get the phoenix rising tattoo on my arm. I truly understand why I go through what I do. This need to help others with words, tasks and etc. It feels almost therapeutic to me. I guess it's true iam a healer and empathic. U explained better than anyone I have watched. I don't normal get aggressive with people when they hurt me but iam a Libra and Virgo rising if that means anything. I can turn into something completely opposite but iam learning to control it with more of a positive attitude towards myself.
Oh this is so spot on! Sun Chiron in the 8th. From childhood right through my adult relationships, the abuse and wounding. I wouldn’t change it cuz I’m one tough cookie now. Would you consider speaking on the added SURPRISE for those that are having Uranus transiting their 8th house planets? Uranus is kicking around my sun right now and it won’t be too long before it makes its way to my Chiron. Ouch!!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing. I am going to work on a Chiron Part 2 video soon, much more of a positive and resilient side coming. Uranus is transiting my 8th for past 7 years, hitting my Moon, Jupiter and Chiron all in 8th... been a lot of thing happen.
@@CarmenTurnerSchott oh yes please share your experiences! I’ve had so many great things happen recently but also bizarre ‘expect the unexpected’. Totally a raw nerve jumpy feeling all the time, but the intuitive information that has come through has really forced me into a space where I can’t denying what I feel and pick up on. It’s too darn obvious to ignore. You are such a sweet soul, thank you for creating space for us all 💗
I have chiron sitting between my moon and venus, both within 5° in the 8th house. Moon is also opposing saturn (my lagna lord) at 0°. These themes certainly resonate, and I feel saturn makes it even more difficult to be vulnerable and trusting of others.
i have an 8th house stellium: chiron, jupiter, Vênus in cancer. This video describes my hole life 😢 Specially to my mom, who is narcissistic. My Dad passed away recently and he was the only one that really loves me. I thought so. But, after his death I find out that he cancelled his life insurance that benefits me and my sibilins (about he talked all his life) and left everything to my step mother and his son (not his son). I get pregnant soon after his death and when I thought that a new energy was coming to me I find out that my MIL also is narcissistic, and I felt like i am caught in the web again. 13 years being her daughter in law, but I was to blind to see the pattern. Now that my daughter is here, she tries to manipulate my husband to see her all the time that she wants and I'm so afraid that in the future she will manipulate my daughter too.
WOW! I always thought it was a Scorpio thing my Chiron in 8th house, I feel like people wanna do damage to me sometimes feel like my life is a mess I'm here today to figure out how to heal myself and my past trama I'm always alone been through so much I close down not as friendly any more because, what people have down to me. I'm ready to move past everything now I believe everything I went through is suppose to be a lesson learn.
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3:50 Wow this is soooooo soooo sooo true... I have had 3 Murder Attempts on my life, last one they ran me over with a car... My mother started whipping me when I was 8 or 9 months old and it didn't stop for many, many years... People are constantly, constantly mean to me... it's unbelievable... and yes, people are very, very, very drawn to me... And yes after I help them to heal they attack / hurt me...
Since birth I've dodged death so many times, its unreal. People are attracted to me for healing, then want to destroy me because I refuse to be manipulated and controlled. I give off a magnetic energy.
@@dumblizzie I go to energy healers and I am an energy healer myself... I have cleared a lot of energy that attracts this kind of stuff. So I am hoping this can be overcome....
@@MikeKollin I've found raising my frequency deflects a lot of negative stuff but rahu and ketu kick me up the butt sometimes, can't avoid karma for lessons to learn. I'm a bit psychic and ascended to 5D for a short period and had reptilian human hybrids fly over my house cos they detected my frequency. In 5D you attract UFOs, plasma and manifest anything you want, that's why I got attacked by a Draco, they are demonic and feed off of human spiritual energy. They are black energy beings stuck in 4D with UFOs and need a human host to work through, it goes down a certain bloodline, they have green/amber eyes, hypnotise you and try and drag you into 4D to fight their battles. If you ever see a white or black triangle craft, RUN cos they aim black beam of energy at you.
@@dumblizzie I just did my Karmic Debt Calculator thing... I have no Karmic Debt... but regardless energy healing does help... it's about healing and clearing old energies you carried into this life time... I've done it for years. It has helped a lot of bad stuff to stop...
Mike- I just saw this comment. It was not notified to me. Sorry! I had to log in to studio and I saw it. Thank you for sharing! I can't imagine what you have been through! I thought I had been through traumatic stuff but you should write an article! Please visit my website at www.8and12houses.com
Very informational and interisting, thank you, i tend to think that this description match a lot to people with this placement and also an aspect to a personal planet, for example moon (I think its the most akward one) you feel the influence very deep...
I have Chiron in 8th house in Aries.Another difficult aspect of my chart,besides having sun in 12th house. And Always felt like people wants to hurt me or they misunderstand my kindness. I have a big desire to help people in need.
kindly help me by replying to my message. my daughter has the same placements. chiron in 8th house and sun in 12 th.. would you please tell me about ur experiences.. or does this placement can cause the death of father?
I have it in Aries trine my Leo Moon in the 12th house. Have always been sensitive and really need to seek solitude now and then to deal with the noise of the world. I have been hurt several times in the past and no one can understand or grasp how I manage to stay single but if they only knew its what keeps me sane.
Powerful information, thank you. It explains so much. Chiron in Pisces conjunct Saturn in 8th. Also Moon in 12th. So much wounding around the father & men in intimate relationships. Betrayal, deception, estrangement & abandonment. I guess I needed to hear that this is a wound that doesn't heal. In a way it lets me off the hook from trying to move past it. Yes, not giving away our power and feeding our heart & soul from the inside is vital. Meditation helps me immensely. But why are we so drawn to deep intimacy when it just ends up hurting us so deeply? How does one stop themselves from having that deep bond with others? Because for me it's deep or it's nothing. This Leo moon will not close her warm heart, but damn, it seems cruel, really. (ps I love that you are a swr. i'm an lcsw in Hawaii)
Thank you so much for sharing 🌹💙 All of what you said I have asked myself and feel exact same. We love deeply and make strong bonds it’s 8th house energy. Chiron there just makes it a lesson to learn so we can help other heal. It’s synchronicity you are from Hawaii bc I am applying for a job there and wondering if I am meant to live there If I get the job with military I will be coming there 😊 My good friend lives there she is a LMFT we worked together in Germany She is Hawaiian native and her family is there here is my website www.8and12houses.com
@@CarmenTurnerSchott I will email you, mahalo! Happy to share any info about living in the islands. For me it has been such a healing place. I live on the Big/Hawaii Island. Much aloha to you!
Oh wow... I have this placement in Gemini in the 8th house.. With scorpio venus, rising, pluto, saturn... These are in the 12th house... I have a pisces moon in the 4th house with a Libra Sun... And so it's not easy... I have so much water in my chart and scorpio together with pisces makes it not easy at all. Right.... I feel always trempled on... Boy I am very broken. And people think oh she has everything together... Everything falls out of the sky for her. ... I am always at a place where people are so so broken... I draw it in... Always... And I mean I need healing myself on different levels...
Thank you for sharing I have some articles and books you might like I have two books on Amazon for pre order one about the 12th house and one about Sun Signs and Healing www.8and12houses.com
Thank you for this video, Carmen. It resonated a lot. I have Chiron retrograde in the 8th House. I was abused emotionally and physically during my childhood and sexually assaulted in my teens. This caused me to go inwards and shut myself off from the world. Trusting people enough to let them get close to me in any meaningful way is something I struggle with. Ironically, I ended up helping one of the people who abused me to heal from the abuse they experienced at the hands of their father.
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I’m just seeing this 4 years later. It’s incredible how every word resonates with me. Having Chiron in my 8th house has been like a perpetual ego death. I always wondered why I felt so different; so misunderstood; so lonely and so seemingly unlucky. This certainly explains a lot. Thank you!!
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some people don't realize that the light can burn the moth. Having Chiron in the 8th house myself, people think I'm a nice person until they hurt me and I'm the devil. Revenge is sweet to my lips, even if it backfires.
Exactly! I always feel guilty about the revenge thoughts that I have but I feel like they hurt me so I hurt them, it's a bad cycle. (My Scorpio rising also plots and schemes for revenge as well).
Exactly!!!! I’m so glad you mentioned this ... I don’t necessarily seek revenge but as soon as ppl start pushing my boundaries I retaliate sharply and I don’t play with my boundaries at all ... the karma is I won’t develop deep relationships with ppl ... but that is a karma I am comfortable with and prefer
Totally understand what you guys are experiencing. Completely valid. I feel as though I’ve experienced this but am trying my best to look from a broader pov because it feels much better when I am disciplined yet compassionate. It’s definitely a balancing act however, I’m thankful for this.
Right
That’s very Scorpio. They say, Capricorn revenge will wait until the day they get to see you fall, but Scorpio revenge will push you over the edge to ensure you do.
This explains so much! My heart has been crushed so many times, and those scars have taught me so much.
I constantly attract people with problems, or rather, people that talk to me for like three minutes, just relaxes, and then just tell me their deepest problems, or the most horrible memories from their life. At parties I always end up alone with somebody, ask them 5 questions, and they break down crying.
And I have had to learn to not always take in everything. Sometimes I have to avoid people with the wrong energies. Don't get me wrong, I love helping people understanding themselves better, but if I don't watch out, it drains me.
Thank you
Stefan Boström Madame Heinz Thank you for sharing- I had same experiences my whole life as well
🌹💙 I understand
@@CarmenTurnerSchott And I'm an Aquarius, Scorpio, Virgo who just wants to save humanity from itself... 😎
@Gonza Brush ❤️
Same 😢 strangers, and especially men, don't ask me why, always tell me their hardest, deepest secrets from childhood.. Crazy
holy shit, that was so so deep. hit me really hard. I cried.
all I can say is that shit hurt. being abandoned, it hurt real bad. being betrayed it hurt real bad.
I dont trust anyone anymore. Not even my own family.
I am so sorry to hear this. You are not alone. HUGS you are strong and a healer
Same here only it's manipulation and the raping (psychologically)......just the constant....
me too honey, being abandoned ... and rejected hurts!!!! We need to heal now
I was abandoned by my birth parents
why on earth did i ever come back to feel all this pain, abandonment intimacy issues??? it's too painful, it's suicidal, all i want is love and to be loved.
Nancy Gagnon thank you for sharing 😊 we are meant to be healers and by experiencing pain and hurt we become able to help others
I agree it’s very painful there were times I questioned this as well and wondered why I had to expert with betrayal from the ones I loved the most
Intimacy is where we are wounded
@@CarmenTurnerSchott it doesn't make sense...it's narcissistic... it's punishment. it's sad to think my whole life will always be this way...it's exhausting and i'm so tired.
Nancy Gagnon everything is based on our own individual perceptions... no your whole life won’t be this way unless you feel that way or always think it would be that way... Chiron in the 8th house has its troubles but think of it as a gateway to healing yourself and healing other people... look on the brighter side, you have experience of what’s it’s like to feel pain like no one else and u also have the ability to go out and inspire others because of what you been through. :)
transcend your pain :)
@Janay Monique Matthewsthank you 😊
This placement makes me so sad because this placement is my home. I’ve been bullied my whole life. By my mom, dad, siblings, peers, adults, etc. I hated myself so much growing up. I was sudicial at the age of 12 because I wanted a way out but I chose to stay because I didn’t want my mom to burry another child 💔. My mom told me from a very young age that I was ugly. She put me & my older sister (1yr apart) against each other. She used to say to me “ Oh you’re jealous of her because she looks better than you” & one night me & my dad got into an argument an he said to me & I’ll never forget it... He said “As ugly as you are no man will ever love you” I cried myself to sleep because I was in a really bad space mentally & emotionally. I’m 21 now & I’m just now going on my self love journey. Oh It’s been a journey & hopefully one day I can look back and say “I did it ! I love myself fully & I accept others love for me” 🙏🏾💔☹️🥺
Thank you so much for sharing
You are strong and are meant to be a wounded healer and help others who have been through similar situations
Hang in there
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Your life sounds so similar to mines just a few tweaks and it sounds the same wow glad your better
@@keepinguphuh7973 aww thank you. I just turned 22, I went through an episode of psychosis and I thought for a few weeks I lost a part of me I’ll never get back but I’m feeling like myself again. Planning on going back to school sometime beginning of next year, wish me luck 🍀🤣🙏🏾. I hope all is well with you & yours. Be safe out there 🙏🏾
@@Usernpclookinahh Glad too hear your doing better , just keep a steady pace it can be a 10 way singular road to your destination but take your time and may I wish you and your loved ones a blessed travel 💪🏿💯
W🥺W...your sharing is really priceless. There's power in sacrifice and transparency. Lifting you up for the beacon of Light you ARE and "LightHouse" 🎁 you'll be for so many in your future. 🙏 Namaste'
I am sure everyone with Chiron in the 8th house has wondered, will I ever receive the happiness and true intimacy I truly desire on a deep level? At least for me, that is my hope. Chiron in the 8th house has been my hardest placement to accept. The pain has been unbearable at times and definitely leaves memorable scarring. At times I can wallow in sadness or have had bouts of anger bc of those experiences that hurt my heart so much. I think this placement is so deserving of love, as much as they have given to others. I hope to find mutual love, trust, and respect within relationships in my life after the healing work I have done. I wish we had a support group for Chiron in the 8th house placements lol. Much love everyone you are beautiful souls don’t forget🖤
Thank you for sharing 🌹 I have a 8th house support group on FB
You should join 😊 we have A lot of folks with Chiron in 8th
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Let me just say you're so physically beautiful but so is your heart ! Ty for this video
Thank you! Your so sweet 🌹❤️🙏🏻
Wow. That was the best information on Chiron in the 8th I've come across. I deeply resonated with all of it. I almost find it sad how strong and independent I've become. Actually, I'm quite afraid/hesitant when it comes to connection and vulnerability. Yes, being strong and independent is good but, omg, anyone who wants my trust and vulnerability has to be near saint-like or I'm not going to even bother. I am definitely discriminate. Almost abnormally so, however, the people I do end up letting in (anymore) are quality. I've been dating the same guy for going on 7 years and we are engaged to be married... I told him the other night, he better know that he will love me forever so I don't waste anymore of my time on him or I'm going to be SO PISSED!!! Lol Lord of my 8th house is in my first conjunct ascendant, AND Pluto is in my first 0 degrees Scorpio. So yeah. Lol. I also have Uranus in the 9th degree of Sag. I can get REALLY mad when I am hurt.
Tanya Ingram Thank you for sharing
You don’t realize how much this means to me. This finally explains what I have been feeling and lived/live through. I know it’s a gift but it’s truly the wounded healer
Thank you for sharing and so happy you found it helpful
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Watched lots of videos about it. I only understand this one very well💓🌈thank you for making it simple to understand
Thank you very much again. I also have Chiron and the Moon in the 8th house. Through watching your videos including North Node Aries and Venus in the 12th house, I am coming to the realisation that it is all pointing towards one thing - to not be so selfless. I can see how my own selflessness has actually been destructive. The same thing keeps happening to me but with different people - I sacrifice much to help them and protect them from their dark sides and then they betray me. The idea of being more 'selfish' is something I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet as I feel like I would be going against who I truly am. But I trust my gut and it's telling me I'm on the right track ... Thank you so very much.
I’m happy you liked the videos and found them helpful
I went through the same thing feeling like I had to change this deeper part of me- you can still be kind and caring but have stronger boundaries and learn from the experiences you have had. I am so different now than I used to be - with our moon and Chiron in 8th we have to be reborn into a stronger person and a healer. It’s okay to chose ourselves and take care of ourselves there is nothing wrong with that. We feel it’s wrong to focus more on our own needs but the truth is we can’t help anyone unless we take care of ourselves
It took me many years to finally accept this
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@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thank you so much indeed. I can already feel a transition beginning and I know that finding your videos are a part of this transition. Your words of comfort mean a lot to me. Your approach to astrology is more helpful to me than any astrologer I have ever come across as you are able to touch on the emotional aspects with incredible precision and explain it a way that is easy to understand. Thank you so much again.
@@phoenixrising8686 🌹❤️🙏🏻 this is amazing and please join my FB groups if you aren’t already in them
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Hey, I also have Chiron and moon in 8th Venus and vertex also. Sad and confusing stuff indeed. Xx
I just cried. This is my life.
Thank you for sharing
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Thank you for making this video.
I have Chiron in the 8th in Pisces, conjunct the sun and north node.
Life has been constant pain and suffering when it comes to dealing with other people. It's true what you said about people seem to want to hurt you if you have this placement. I've experienced this since I was a child. I would reach out to people for love and affection and be hurt in very cruel ways. All of my intimate relationships leave me devastated and broken in the end. We do give all and get little in return. I feel like I've healed all of my partners on a spiritual level and yet they end up pulling away from me.
I don't really want to go it alone, but I'm starting to think there is no other way.
Thank you for sharing your experience. We need to be selective on who we let into our inner circle and trust. It's our greatest learning. Please join my 8th house Deep Soul Diver group on Facebook :) I think you would enjoy it.
same here... all my life, reaching out for love ... never felt it or received it in my entire life, even my own mother rejected, abused and abandoned me...and my dad did nothing but watch... i've attracted every loser there is in life...i'm so tired.
You’re so strong omg!❤️❤️
Don X Oh yes. My closest friend of 6 years that i felt i could’ve trusted with anything and everything turned out to be a narc. I also think all of my immediate family members are narcs too but that’s a story for another day. Our people exist we just gotta let them find us, trust me.I think there is hope for us. I think when we focus our attention inwardly, things get better. I’m now taking therapy to heal and get away from the huffle puffle to a feeling of peace and serenity. It’s all i can hope for these days. So hard to stay sane, but trying. I’m glad.Yeah I wouldn’t trade my life either, no matter how shitty life has been to me. I would never trade my story for someone else’s. At the end of this dark tunnel, my journey will someday mean something because then there is light.
Don X Or even though i’m not a very religious person, I remember this story so well. When Daniel was thrown in the lions Den. In this case people with 8h Chiron are Daniel because he refused to give up his virtue and what he believed in to please or akin to the pesticides in the kingdom that wanted to see him perish. When they threw him in the lions Den his fate in god kept him alive and god sealed the lions mouth and the lions did not rip him apart or harmed him. In return, the enemies that were plotting against daniel became gods enemies so they got thrown in that Den and feasted on. The lions didn’t leave Daniel because they weren’t hungry, they left Daniel because god refused to let them eat him. For us, i think keeping the faith like Daniel did is the best way to go. Have a very nice one yourself!
Thank you. This is the best explanation of Chiron in the 8th house, in my case in Pieces, as well and in conjunction with Saturn. I came to the same conclusion: "The true lesson is that we have to learn to depend on ourselves and making ourselves happy and learn to have that deep bond we are seeking with our own self." I have been hurting again and have been trying to find a way to deal with it, but this made me feel so much better now: "You can be happy, but you will need to embrace the wounding and healing cycle in your life that often involves people, family, friends, and loved ones. Wherever Chiron is, there will be a wound. Having Chiron in the eighth house is actually an amazing place to have it, because it truly heals us from the inside out. It is something that we need to embrace and believe that it is a part of our soul journey and that our soul chose this placement for learning." Thank you.
It's also interesting, that it's all linked well with my Jupiter in the 12th house close to my ASC in Leo, Neptune in the 4th house in Scorpio and my birthday on 21st December, just before the winter solstice, so I do feel like a spark in a dark showing the light for the ones in deep darkness.
Thank you for sharing- I am so happy you agree and it sounds like you have healed this placement
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I seriously hate having this placement. All the people in my life want me just to help them. Never the other way around. Now I’m reaching my Chiron return and I’m having a hard time handling it.
Hang in there I’m having my Chiron return too I’m 8th house ❤️🌹
Chiron in Scorpio here and this is so true.
Well said. I have this placement in Aires. "The most important relationship is the one you have with yourself." Abraham Hicks
I like this video as it is informative....one thing missing is if you do the healing work..it is possible to have healthy intimate relationships.
Loved your video & I truly felt what you were communicating. I am a sun, moon, mercury & chiron in Cancer. My moon, mercury, venus & chiron are in the 8th and I am a scorpio rising. "The light in the dark, a moth to the flame..." I'm truly moved with your words and i'm happy i came across this video. XO
I listened to this one probably every year...I forget about it, re-listen and each time receive more. 8th house Chiron/Pisces love, give waaay too much resulting in betrayal/lack of mutual esteem. Those that betray actually bring 8th house Chironer's reminders we repeatedly need. We need to be reminded not too give too much, resist sharing our private details and info...period! Reserve delicate, intimate, private info., things for Higher-Minded relationships that are tried and TRUE. When dealing with others no matter how wounded and in need of healing others appear or maybe. Never give ourselves, our focus & time away so easily. Stay in our lane (handling our own affairs, back-off to allow others to manage their's wholly). There are ways of compassionate association that don't result in betrayals. As much as we feel passionate about assisting others in healing and their worthiness to receive unconditional acceptance & love, we must also be equally passionate about maintaining protective self-care. Not becoming too drawn in, compulsory, obssessed with others healing. Some don't want that level of healing we wish for them. Perhaps superficiality, callousness and betrayals is a necessary intervention until we recognize the vicious patterns of obsession with "others" healing before we've mastered circumspective heart and mind "self-preservation" practices.
Thank you so much for sharing- you are right I have learned this the hard way but now that I’m older it all makes sense ❤️🌹
@@CarmenTurnerSchott me too, and I'm still learning "...when to hold them, fold them, walk-away and when to run!" 🤭.
I've experienced every word of what you said.
Thank you for sharing
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Oh gosh you saw I exist. 😭💖 I'm a huge fan.
@@PleaseHelpICantThinkofaName are you on my 8th Facebook group
No, I'm not. I've been taking a break from fb bc I tend to get addicted to it. Venus in Gemini 8th stuff. Ya know. When I get back on I'll join.
I looked for healing in others in the past but I have realized that it's only me and God at the end of the day. I defs got my identity through all the deaths and rebirths. I have tremendous wounds especially emotional...
Spectacular video!! This resonates with me in a profound way. My Chiron is in my 8th house in Taurus. Everything you described seems to be the theme of my life. I feel this inner wound that will never fade but it fuels me to find answers to heal. I give to my detriment. I also seem to attract sexually damaged people. It's good to get a clear picture of the energies I'm affected by. Thank you so much for sharing. I loved how you explained this placement.
Thank you so much for your kind words and sharing- I too have Chiron in 8th in Aries conjunct my Moon and Jupiter
We are like the Phoenix
Chiron in virgo 8th house here. Thank you so much. ❤💛💚💙💜
Wow. You made me cry..haha. This is so accurate for me. I am ending my Chiron return soon. Thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏻
Jason Gregg Thank you for sharing 🌹💙
People are usually triggered and mad at me for being so “childlike” and “pure”. Why do you want to get close to me just to pour salt all over me? When you dislike something you leave it alone am I right?
FaeryGlitter people like to drain us and use us for our energy them they discard us
I find we attract selfish people
We have to be cautious who we trust I learned this the hard way several times I always would see the good in all
Now I am different bc if the pain others caused me I learned to protect myself and energy from those who only take take take
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This is so true! I've said this for years!
I have been deep hurt by the love of my life. I am was trying to understand why he went out of his way to destroy the amazing love. This realizing made me weep. As I realize that there was no way to be happy in that union. But I know that I will over come this. I am pure love . Thank you so much for this.
Thank you for sharing. I went through same thing and still believe they love us, they are too afraid of our unconditional love ... hugs
This is amazing! Thank you for your analysis. I have Chiron in Taurus in the 8th house and you described my life completely. I also have Scorpio rising and I have been hurt so deeply by others, give my power away without realising it and am constantly everyone's therapist...it's draining. I am finally learning to take care of myself but there is so much guilt inside that it overwhelms me and I stop and start, over and over again. Chiron packs a wallop, wow x
Moonladyify thank you for sharing 💙🌹
This is definitely me. As I was listening I looked down and saw the time 12:12 on my phone. Looked it up and that totally goes along with this! Thank you so much for you work. Blessings 💙
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Wow! Thankyou. Absolutely everything you said is completely true of my life.
Gaynor Beck 🌹💙
🙏🏼♥️ thank you ♥️🙏🏼
Probably the best interpretation of chiron in the 8th thus far. Thank you
The Luminary Thank you so much 💙
truly crying thank you
I feel seen
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"others trying to hurt me" was a gut hit, been trying to help others, got my Reiki Master but no certificate, but I have the attunements, i have been abused physically, mentally, emotionally, socially. I am now 44yrs old, got to researching, found you, chiron in taurus is coming up, i've been affected now going on 2 weeks, things are pressing again, my "teacher" has no response, i am alone again, just me and spirit with my chiron..thank you for this video. I know very little of astrology, been different all my life and just recently got my bearings to come out with my gifts to offer to help others; and now here in 2022 yet still in Pisces, my chiron has begun along with all of the unveiling of intentions of others currently around me, and yet the change of pressing forward is here....again thanks for this video*
Thank you for sharing
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You were dead on I have Chiron in cancer in the 8th house this is so on point to a T
I have this too
Very much true for me....8th house ♉️...with Chiron and my sun conjuct...just divorced narcissistic person...family is emotionally unsupportive....bulled as a kid....I like the bit about acceptance....yes my healing is about self sufficiency! Most def
Very interesting! Thank you for this video! I have a 03 degrees Leo chiron in eighth house.
Throughout my years I've been deeply hurt and transformed into a much stronger minded woman but I do still feel vulnerable and almost like an easy target (because I can be too open and am so compassionate) . I completely get the magnetic healing energy! People tend to come to me for advice, to tell me their secrets and to confide in me. (oh and shoulder and hand massages) Ah I could go on and on.. 😩
This has been so helpful, going to check out your other videos :) thankyouu ✌️
Beautiful!!
Music to my ears 🍃😘🌹🌹
Thank you 💚
Interesting insight, thanks! I have 8th house Chiron trine Pluto in 12th (3,5 degrees away from Asc). I was often wounded in childhood by the people I trusted the most, but as I became older, I discovered that people somehow started to be 'aware' of my presence and somehow became careful around me, I notice that often (Pluto on Asc in Scorp, I believe), so it's funny how it flipped over. But somehow I can 'smell' someone's emotional pain a mile away, when there's no imply on that at all. Guess it's the work of Pluto-Chiron trine.
Thanks Carmen, all what you’ve said is really accurate, touched my heart and helped me to understand more about a personal long life experience,
Miguel Islas Thank you for sharing 🌹💙
I have Chiron in the 8th, as well as my Sun, and Venus. My life has been full of betrayal and loss. However, as you said, I have this transformative power, and I have amazed my own self at how far I have come as a result.
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Your hair is so beautiful! I have Chiron in the 12th but in Scorpio... I always want to push out all of the 'intense and covered' emotions from others but not uncover my own. Great video!
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I viewed it as the result of my weakness, the way sharks smell blood. I don't know if this made me more compassionate or just tougher with my boundaries. I also have black moon lilith in Aquarius so I fight even harder for social justice now.
Same. Loner af!
8th house Cancer Chiron conjunct my South Node, ugh, I felt that. Betrayal from my own parents, "best friends" and ofc first loves... I'm a capricorn w/ scorpio rising and cancer moon on top of that so trust issues, I mean... "trust issues" it sounds like paranoia but when life really gives you betrayal from your loved ones all the time, it's more like "okayy lesson learned". I rely on my intuition 100% now because I dont want to cut myself too much from the outside world, but life's really testing me and I don't know how much longer I can cope with betrayal/abandonment/the feeling of having to be a loner forever. People just feed themselves off my deep empathy and healing power but whenever I need real support, there's no one for me (not playing the victim, just facts).
If anybody has insight related to the Cancer and/or SN conjunction placements pls lemmeknow.
Hi... I have Capricorn sun... libra rising and also a cancer moon. I feel this deeply. We have to find the beauty in our scars and wear them like a golden blanket. It can be very selfless energy at times. Just know that the more you are willing to be the love that you want you will start to find it within yourself and in this crazy beautiful life. ...im still working on it 🌱❤
Thank you 🙏🏽💫💚🌺🦋
Thank you for this video. One degree Leo, on the cusp of Cancer, I have Jupiter, Uranus, Mercury and Ketu in Cancer, and Capricorn with the Rahu and Chiron in the 8th. It's been a tough go. This explains so much and makes me want to give myself and all of you a huge, cosmic hug. I think we're here to heal ourselves, our ancestors and those around us, but let's heal ourselves first. 🙏😇💜💜💜💜
Thank you! ❤
I’m a Pisces sun. I have Chiron in the 8th in Scorpio
I also have Venus, Jupiter & Uranus in the 12th too.
It’s been rough. But I know I’m here to be of service to others through creative outlets but also to develop & learn deep internal & external self care for myself when i’m in alone time.
The 12th house prevents me from feeling negative feelings around loneliness, but the eighth house in Chiron has caused deep hurtful situations then has me alone a lot after
I would guess a lot of introverts in general who aren’t into astrology may have these placements too. Such weird placements - I feel like I’m an outcast - being the one to have no help but people depending on your help so much. And also attracting narcissists or energy vampires who want to drain and project on top of that too lol - it’s overwhelming. It’s really killed my ego. It’s brought me right to my internal core.
But I study so much about people place & things when I’m alone, and I’ve really worked a lot on myself through astrology.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge it’s been so comforting and helpful. It’s so helpful to have this information at a click of a finger because these placements have been so intense.
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Thank you for sharing, I have Chiron conjunct mercury in the 8th hause.
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thank you for this...totally sums me up !....i have chiron in pisces in my 8th house
same here...
Very true. I have both Chiron and Saturn are in the 8th house of Pisces. I was bullied as a kid and although I have plenty of people around me they only call when you they need want a healing or a reading.
Eleanor Gona thank you for sharing 💙
Same... Saturn and Chiron in 8th house.
Wow.. It was specific. Chiron in Leo in the 8h here. It stated with my own mother, who is deep down jealous of me. She was mean to me, she broke me in my spirit. I was a loner as a little girl, always reading, in my own planet. People used to find me weird. Also, not to sound cocky, I'm good looking, so I let you imagine what some girls tried to do to break me down. I was severely bullied in HS, fb groups etc. It was rough. Concernly my relationship, with Girls friend and lovers... What can I say? I was a narcissist magnet. People came to me with their pbs, I've always been a good counselor and listener. These are the one who betrayed me the most. I'm very good at healing people... But nobody's here for me. I like my therapist but she can't help me through everything 😂😭. When I meet someone, I'm always suspicious now. What's going to happen now? Every girl I'm trying to be cool with are undercover mean spirited girls. FUN FACT : I'm a scorpio men's magnet 😂. I'm actually in my spiritual awakening, and Oh god! I understood so much thing. Being alone is actually my cure. It helps me seeing clear... And now, I'm about to love myself endlessly and also, take care of my inner child.
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This is the best explanation I've found
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Very informative, TY! I have Chiron in Cap. in 8th House, and also Pluto in Cap. in 8th...Yes, my many scars have given me a tougher skin, helping to protect the ultra sensitive skin below it. It has probably saved me in such a brutal world...TY, again. ;)
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So accurate for my Pisces 8th house Chiron conjunct and in between my Saturn and Mars. Such a hard placement to endure. Even at this point when I am my own best friend, I'm still being attacked by strangers, friends and my beloved.
Finding out I have Chiron in Scorpio was personally bad news for me. I’m beginning to feel like sex is a toxic tendency, as if only evil people should want sex. Sexual attraction is beginning to scare and offend me
I feel you !! And now that's everything is sexualized, I feel so angry and disgust , I really wish sex wasn't a thing.
Battling the same issues... I view sex as something only low-level people crave &”need” i am here to spiritually evolve not to have my time wasted with bullshit. As a spiritual being first, Sex just isn’t all what it’s cracked up to be in my opinion
Dude why am I hearing that I could've potentially been abused as a child. I'm sick to my stomach and sex isn't the same for me
yes. I have chiron in saggitarius.. and pluto in my 8th house too..
i would love to hear more from you!! more videos please!
Thank you. I have been so busy with work, have not made any in a long time. I will be back one day :)
I love this, Carmen; it is so timely for me, because Chiron is transiting my 8'th house at this time. I have had some deep insights on how I choose to use words, with its recent transit of my natal Mercury in my 8'th, and soon it will transit my Aries sun, also in my 8'th. I loved your class on 8'th and 12'th house astrology that you gave circa 2012-13 (?) It's wonderful to see you on TH-cam!
I've barely started watching the video, but am in awe of our commonalities. I just watched your video on North Node in Scorpio (which I have in the 3rd house), and now I find we both have Aries in Chiron in the 8th house!
After watching the rest of the video, I'm amazed at how much it described me. It sounds so much like my life experience, and my life path number in numerology is six, so it all connects.
Thank you for this video!
Thank you for sharing 🌹💙 Aries Chiron in 8th we are often hurt be very selfish narcissist people who only think about themselves
I have Chiron (in Pisces) in the 8th opposed Uranus/Pluto/Juno in Virgo in the 1st. I was mostly single through my 20s. At my (younger) brother's wedding, which happened when I was 31, I remember standing there, thinking - when will my time come? Two years later, it did come, and I have been in relationships ever since. I'm now in my early 50s, and married. Yet, I have always been very ambivalent about relationships, and need lots of my own space. I attract people who want all my time and energy; I have to fight for me time. There is also a potent fear of rejection in this placement. I know I have held onto things for far too long for fear of being rejected. It's important to me to find Chiron's 'voice' and let it be heard.
Everything that you said was absolutely true and has been my experience for as long as I can recall.... WOW!! I really appreciate your openness and explanation. I am an Astrologer and a few months ago I read Chiron the rainbow bridge and finally found out what my house and sign placement truly means, I am Chiron in Aries/8th house.
Angela, Thank you for sharing. Hugs to my fellow Chiron in Aries in 8th. I find Aries have hurt me the most deeply, but I have healed some of it.
unbelievable Thank God
Chiron and Pluto in the 8th house.
Same here girl
Same, it’s scary.
I have North Node and Chiron in the 8th house... Everything you said is spot on! I'm a Death doula. What does the North node AND Chiron in my 8th house mean? 💜
North Node in 8th is your soul mission this lifetime your doing it! Chiron is wounded healer and you are a energy healer and help people in times of crisis
Exactly what your doing ❤️🌹
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Hi, rewatching this as lately, I feel my Chiron wounds are popping up during eclipse season. I have Chiron in Taurus in the 8th house and Pluto in my first, as well as 8th and 12th house dominant, and I find that I attract and date either Scorpios or heavy 8th house people, like we can feel how wounded we all are and bond over that pain and intensity. They are also the people who I trust the most. This all rang so true, thank you. I can feel your pain as well and offering you a virtual 🤗 hug. Be well.
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Very good explanation! I've got Chiron conjunct my moon (exact) in Aquarius. I have MAJOR trust issues and this helps me understand that more. For me, I have found being single and not emotionally attached helps quite a bit.
+Roberta Hustead Thank you for your insights-
Chiron in 8th and Gemini.
Aries sun
Scorpio rising
Sagittarius moon.
I maried a man that was just like my mother. Then, I divorced the crap out of him. I used to curse people when they did something bad to me, but I leave things be now. Everyone will pay for hurting you. Don't be happy for anyone's suffering.
Thank you 💗
Thank u 🙏 that explains a lot to me. This probably why I felt a strong desire to get the phoenix rising tattoo on my arm. I truly understand why I go through what I do. This need to help others with words, tasks and etc. It feels almost therapeutic to me. I guess it's true iam a healer and empathic. U explained better than anyone I have watched. I don't normal get aggressive with people when they hurt me but iam a Libra and Virgo rising if that means anything. I can turn into something completely opposite but iam learning to control it with more of a positive attitude towards myself.
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Oh this is so spot on! Sun Chiron in the 8th. From childhood right through my adult relationships, the abuse and wounding. I wouldn’t change it cuz I’m one tough cookie now. Would you consider speaking on the added SURPRISE for those that are having Uranus transiting their 8th house planets? Uranus is kicking around my sun right now and it won’t be too long before it makes its way to my Chiron. Ouch!!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing. I am going to work on a Chiron Part 2 video soon, much more of a positive and resilient side coming. Uranus is transiting my 8th for past 7 years, hitting my Moon, Jupiter and Chiron all in 8th... been a lot of thing happen.
@@CarmenTurnerSchott oh yes please share your experiences! I’ve had so many great things happen recently but also bizarre ‘expect the unexpected’. Totally a raw nerve jumpy feeling all the time, but the intuitive information that has come through has really forced me into a space where I can’t denying what I feel and pick up on. It’s too darn obvious to ignore.
You are such a sweet soul, thank you for creating space for us all 💗
I have chiron sitting between my moon and venus, both within 5° in the 8th house. Moon is also opposing saturn (my lagna lord) at 0°. These themes certainly resonate, and I feel saturn makes it even more difficult to be vulnerable and trusting of others.
Thank you for sharing
I have moon conjunct Chiron in 8th square my moon
I agree
Saturn can make it tough at times to express feelings 🌹
Thank you so much for this video, it taught me a lot about myself
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❤️ Thx it gives so much mening 👍 Way no more videos ?😀
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So true, thank you
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i have an 8th house stellium: chiron, jupiter, Vênus in cancer. This video describes my hole life 😢 Specially to my mom, who is narcissistic. My Dad passed away recently and he was the only one that really loves me. I thought so. But, after his death I find out that he cancelled his life insurance that benefits me and my sibilins (about he talked all his life) and left everything to my step mother and his son (not his son). I get pregnant soon after his death and when I thought that a new energy was coming to me I find out that my MIL also is narcissistic, and I felt like i am caught in the web again. 13 years being her daughter in law, but I was to blind to see the pattern. Now that my daughter is here, she tries to manipulate my husband to see her all the time that she wants and I'm so afraid that in the future she will manipulate my daughter too.
Thank you!! This is my placement, in Cancer! Subscribed :)
This is so true! Thanks so much for making this video!!
So happy you found it helpful 💙🌹
I would love to see more posts from you this year. Great work, Thankyou
Thank you so much- I want to- still getting used to videos and my Virgo shyness prevents me from doing too many but I am open to requests :)
Working on self healing and feeling secure within myself
I have chiron in ♋ in the 8th house. And I have a 5 placement 8th house stelleium along with being a ♏ Rising. Everything you said is exactly my life.
Phillip YP AKA SON OF THE LIGHT Thank you so much for sharing 🌹💙
Thank you! Much love !!
WOW! I always thought it was a Scorpio thing my Chiron in 8th house, I feel like people wanna do damage to me sometimes feel like my life is a mess I'm here today to figure out how to heal myself and my past trama I'm always alone been through so much I close down not as friendly any more because, what people have down to me. I'm ready to move past everything now I believe everything I went through is suppose to be a lesson learn.
Thank you for sharing your journey
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3:50 Wow this is soooooo soooo sooo true...
I have had 3 Murder Attempts on my life, last one they ran me over with a car...
My mother started whipping me when I was 8 or 9 months old and it didn't stop for many, many years...
People are constantly, constantly mean to me... it's unbelievable...
and yes, people are very, very, very drawn to me...
And yes after I help them to heal they attack / hurt me...
Since birth I've dodged death so many times, its unreal. People are attracted to me for healing, then want to destroy me because I refuse to be manipulated and controlled. I give off a magnetic energy.
@@dumblizzie I go to energy healers and I am an energy healer myself... I have cleared a lot of energy that attracts this kind of stuff. So I am hoping this can be overcome....
@@MikeKollin I've found raising my frequency deflects a lot of negative stuff but rahu and ketu kick me up the butt sometimes, can't avoid karma for lessons to learn. I'm a bit psychic and ascended to 5D for a short period and had reptilian human hybrids fly over my house cos they detected my frequency. In 5D you attract UFOs, plasma and manifest anything you want, that's why I got attacked by a Draco, they are demonic and feed off of human spiritual energy. They are black energy beings stuck in 4D with UFOs and need a human host to work through, it goes down a certain bloodline, they have green/amber eyes, hypnotise you and try and drag you into 4D to fight their battles. If you ever see a white or black triangle craft, RUN cos they aim black beam of energy at you.
@@dumblizzie I just did my Karmic Debt Calculator thing... I have no Karmic Debt... but regardless energy healing does help... it's about healing and clearing old energies you carried into this life time... I've done it for years. It has helped a lot of bad stuff to stop...
Mike- I just saw this comment. It was not notified to me. Sorry! I had to log in to studio and I saw it. Thank you for sharing! I can't imagine what you have been through! I thought I had been through traumatic stuff but you should write an article! Please visit my website at www.8and12houses.com
Always attracting the bad guys with Venus in cap and also this placement. I’ve learned to protect my energy and not give second chances.
Carmen, you’re a bad ass! Nothing weak about you
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Very informational and interisting, thank you, i tend to think that this description match a lot to people with this placement and also an aspect to a personal planet, for example moon (I think its the most akward one) you feel the influence very deep...
I have Chiron in 8th house in Aries.Another difficult aspect of my chart,besides having sun in 12th house.
And Always felt like people wants to hurt me or they misunderstand my kindness.
I have a big desire to help people in need.
You are a wounded healer and have strong healing energies :)
kindly help me by replying to my message. my daughter has the same placements. chiron in 8th house and sun in 12 th.. would you please tell me about ur experiences.. or does this placement can cause the death of father?
I have it in Aries trine my Leo Moon in the 12th house. Have always been sensitive and really need to seek solitude now and then to deal with the noise of the world. I have been hurt several times in the past and no one can understand or grasp how I manage to stay single but if they only knew its what keeps me sane.
mikeycbaby I’m sorry you have been hurt
I know the feelings
Thank you for sharing 💙
I have Sun, Chiron, and Part of Fortune in Scorpio, in the 8th house.
Powerful information, thank you. It explains so much. Chiron in Pisces conjunct Saturn in 8th. Also Moon in 12th. So much wounding around the father & men in intimate relationships. Betrayal, deception, estrangement & abandonment. I guess I needed to hear that this is a wound that doesn't heal. In a way it lets me off the hook from trying to move past it. Yes, not giving away our power and feeding our heart & soul from the inside is vital. Meditation helps me immensely. But why are we so drawn to deep intimacy when it just ends up hurting us so deeply? How does one stop themselves from having that deep bond with others? Because for me it's deep or it's nothing. This Leo moon will not close her warm heart, but damn, it seems cruel, really. (ps I love that you are a swr. i'm an lcsw in Hawaii)
Thank you so much for sharing 🌹💙 All of what you said I have asked myself and feel exact same. We love deeply and make strong bonds it’s 8th house energy. Chiron there just makes it a lesson to learn so we can help other heal.
It’s synchronicity you are from Hawaii bc I am applying for a job there and wondering if I am meant to live there
If I get the job with military I will be coming there 😊
My good friend lives there she is a LMFT we worked together in Germany
She is Hawaiian native and her family is there
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@@CarmenTurnerSchott I will email you, mahalo! Happy to share any info about living in the islands. For me it has been such a healing place. I live on the Big/Hawaii Island. Much aloha to you!
This really resonated ❤️ Thank you!
Chiron in 8th
Scorpio rising
Virgo South Node
Yea it’s a lot Chiron 8th Gemini and Venus Libra 12th 😲 it’s too much sometimes. Lilith in 8th Gemini as well.
Oh wow... I have this placement in Gemini in the 8th house.. With scorpio venus, rising, pluto, saturn... These are in the 12th house... I have a pisces moon in the 4th house with a Libra Sun... And so it's not easy... I have so much water in my chart and scorpio together with pisces makes it not easy at all. Right.... I feel always trempled on... Boy I am very broken. And people think oh she has everything together... Everything falls out of the sky for her. ... I am always at a place where people are so so broken... I draw it in... Always... And I mean I need healing myself on different levels...
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Thank you for this video, Carmen. It resonated a lot. I have Chiron retrograde in the 8th House. I was abused emotionally and physically during my childhood and sexually assaulted in my teens. This caused me to go inwards and shut myself off from the world. Trusting people enough to let them get close to me in any meaningful way is something I struggle with. Ironically, I ended up helping one of the people who abused me to heal from the abuse they experienced at the hands of their father.
Wow thank you so much for sharing your story I greatly appreciate it
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I tell my husband he's like a stone! Hardly ever any emotions & Im a Cancer Asc so I'm nothing but. It's hard