What really strikes out here is that this wasn’t some evil plan of Vlad’s. He was genuinely trying to help an distraught and traumatized boy, and it just went horribly wrong.
What strikes me wired is that Ghost Dsnny would do such a thing, I thought Ghost Danny would carry the same thoughts and afflictions Regular Danny would take. I thought it'd be more possible to have Ghost Danny just try to immediately return to Danny's body after being pulled like that
@@lelouch3666You basically answered your own question there. "Carry the same thoughts and afflictions..." Imagine the depressing and angry thoughts and feelings being repressed by Danny during that time, no longer wanting to be a hero because he lost his loved ones. Now, the ghost part of him has been seperated from his body, carrying these dark thoughts and emotions as an independent sentient being, seemingly as if to be disposed of, like junk.
@onepieceking1770 i had an idea, evil danny escapes and hunts down danny phantom and seeks revenge after being defeated, danny goes to the other ghost and forms a team in order to bring down his evil future self because he only got lucky to stop him so danny and the villains form a team to defeat evil danny for good and this time he makes sure he is down for good
@@miketherobotinkling7741 well thing is he tried getting his old villains or foes that hate him to join with him in the future but dark danny has done alot worse to them all He crippled Johnny 13 and may have erased his gf Ember let herself go with gaining alot of weight but it must've been a confidence boost gone Box ghost actually became badass but many sacrifices were made to him that turned him badass (him and the lunch lady ghost have a daughter) Vortech and skullker fused into 1 being since 2 of them couldnt beat dark Danny alone As for the rest.... well he may have gotten rid of them out of his life for good....
@@cochiefemeralds3616 sadly it went wrong because Danny Phantom still thinks it's his fault that his family and friends were gone and he wanted to get rid of that feeling so he fuse with Vlad to feel hole again since his human half blame him for what happened
0:38 I like how Vlad's expression changes. He might have been planning to torment Danny, but when he saw how distraught Danny really was, he dropped it and decided to help him instead. Vlad wasn't lying when he said he was the only one who could understand what Danny was going through. He understood perfectly.
@@jimmyelkordy3752 he was definitely planning to manipulate him with the evil sound cue at first and fake smile/shoulder touch. Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom always had a sound cue like that to signify villainy. Then he saw Danny looking at the picture of his parents, which mirrors later this scene when Vlad himself is looking at a picture of his own. I have no doubt he had long stretches of loneliness and regret over the years and immediately understood what Danny was going through. That’s when he decided to help.
When you think about it, Evil Danny literally lost everything. I guess Vlad saw that he really couldn’t do anything to hurt him anymore and instead decided to help him.
@@marmik961 i heard it's not that good. To OP: as much as I liked it as a kid, even back then I wondered why Vlad was dumb enough to think removing a powerful phantom's humanity was a good idea lmao. Like, Danny had kicked his ass so many times before.
As a kid I thought maybe he wanted to remove the ghost half. As an adult I realize that Vlad is devastated by Maddie’s death and just seeing a kid who lost his entire family in one freak accident. Even the most evil humans would feel bad
Honestly this was a pretty dark episode, like just this part alone in which Dark Danny straight up murders his human self but left Vlad alive to tell the tale of his beginning is just dark on it's own.
i dont think he left vlad alive intentionally. yeah he explicitly went out of his way to kill danny, but the house also literally exploded. im pretty sure dan just assumed vlad would be dead as he stayed in the ruined mansion and never left for 10 years. i was honestly surprised myself to even see that vlad was durable enough to survive being at ground zero like that.
@@MasterOfTruck Yeah like if I know anything about explosions, you have to take into account the epicenter of an explosion like the further away you are from the center of a blast, the less energy you're getting hit with and while it is not shown here, it was very much likely that the mansion exploding didn't hit Vlad that much or he was further away enough to the point that the energy from the explosion didn't hit him that hard.
@@Yoshirocks92 dan blew up his lab, which is in the basement of the mansion. as i previously stated, vlad was at ground zero because he was in the same room. he literally couldnt be any physically closer to the explosion unless dan set it off right on top of him.
@@MasterOfTruck But thing is, when Jazz confronted Dan, the latter mentioned that he had yet to find Vlad’s Ghost Portal since he mentioned that once he found it, that was gone too as that gave Jazz to tell Danny that Future Vlad still had his Ghost Portal for him to escape the Future Ghost Zone.
@@Yoshirocks92 vlad's ghost portal wasnt in the lab that was in his mansions basement, it was at vladco. thats why dan never found it. vlad was presumed dead because dan got too over-zealous (but lets be real, you wouldnt really expect anyone to survive an explosion of that magnitude to the face anyway). if dan knew he was still alive, he wouldve never wasted his years searching for vlad's portal to destroy it but rather just beat the answer out of him to get its location.
Danny was hardly a nobody. Dude was basically a superhero. Also, his one bad day wasn't the issue, it was what someone else did to this to help him cope with it.
1:28 David Kaufman's scream here still gives me goosebumps to this day! It really made the transformation into Dark Danny feel even MORE agonizing than it looked with the cracks in Danny's skin!
I'm surprised the Nickelodeon censors even allowed this episode to air at all. Even an 8 year old would understand Human Danny was murdered by his corrupted ghost half.
@@dwecktekI never thought that Danny was killed by his ghost if it weren't for comments in this video. Maybe those who censoring Nick back then are also having same thought like me.
I was around 5, maybe even less, years old when this episode aired. And I immediently got that Danny was brutally murdered. But instead of being traumatized, I was just shocked. Both at how scary, tragic, and badass this scene was
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl Actually, they were a bit tighter back then. The Avatar: The Last Airbender regulations prevented them from showing death directly for the most part but changed by the time they got to Korra to show more dark and gritty things.
There were probably more factors than that, but that’s what causes the chain of events to be set in motion for Danny to end up losing his world and his humanity.
The nasty sauce overheated. And mr lancer of all people had a mandatory meeting with the Fentons there. Even sam and tucker were there for support. Did this happen in the original timeline?
@@themasterofcommentsandrese4351 I think the only difference between both the original explosion and the one involving Dark Danny was that none of Clockwork’s interference happened and he wasn’t the cause for past Danny to end up getting the C.A.T answers. There were probably a few original ghosts that went after Danny that day and caused similar incidents, but Box Lunch and Dark Danny were the ones to have events play out exactly, whether by accident or by force.
The fact that Danny's ghost self in this didn't even hesitate to attack Vlad, ripped out Vlad's ghost half, and merge with it is something you'd never expect. Even killing Danny's human self is horrifying 😳
A good Villain with real motivations, sticks to those motives whether they stay true or get twisted. Its very good to see that Vlad still retained seeing that he could be the family for Danny that he always wanted to be but understands under those circumstances he’s more respectful of what he needs to be supported. Its just sucks how inherently evil their ghosts happen to be.
I don't think Danny's other half was evil just angry after everything that happened to him. Vlad took the human hurting away and all that was left was the anger and the ghost half was just attacked by those claws in his chest. I see why he attacked Vlad
@@lightdarksoul2097 But then... *why rip Vlad of HIS human half and then DIVE HEADFIRST to **_MERGE_** with the ghostly bastard?* I dunno, me feels Ghost Danny had always had that little bit of evil deep inside, with only Danny's humanity keeping it in check. But with both halves seperated, _it was time to let loose._
@@lightdarksoul2097 I think the series has shown Ghosts can be very leaning towards, evil, anger, vengeance, etc. Its just Danny's human conscience is what helps balance the two even though he greatly needed support from his friends on how he should be responsible with his powers.
I think most of the ghosts run more on obessession then the rest though. All are some kind of obessessed with something and in their ghost forms they aim to get it. Like real ghosts it's their unfinished business kind of thing. There are certain ones like Pyrrah and Clockwork who seem more normal kinda and they likely were born ghosts@@inanimatesum4945
1. I always loved the idea that Vlad, even at his worst, still respected Danny 2. I am SO GLAD that we finally got the answer to the loose plot thread that is Dark Danny.
@@homerman76 At the end of the special, its implied that, eventually, Dark Danny would get free from his capsule. A Glitch in Time , a Danny Phantom comic book that was released recently as of me writting this and published by Abrams Books & Nickelodeon , is set after the end of the show and sees the return of both Clockwork and Dark Danny. Won't say anything more for spoiler reasons. But I highly recommend it if you want a more satisfying conclusion to the show than what we got. Just a little note tho: The canonicity of the comic is a bit up in the air since Butch Hartman had nothing to do with it. But considering the clown sh!t he's been up to recently, I understand why Nickelodeon wanted nothing to do with him.
@@filipvadas7602As far as I could tell, one thing appears to not quite add up with the finale. Spoilers for those who have yet to read, even though it's a plot point at the start. Apparently the positioning of Vlad after being struck by the asteroid makes no sense. The Disasteroid struck him after phasing through Earth while in the comic he watched the Disasteroid phase through Earth from a distance.
Makes you realize that Danny’s ghost half really did have his own personality and once Danny turned against him and blamed it for what happened his alter ego actually murdered him for it
No that’s not what happened. Ghosts are fuelled by negative emotions so when he used them to separate Danny Fenton and Danny Phantom. All his rage, bitterness and vengefulness went to his ghost half. That’s why once his ghost half woke up he was very angry. Even though Vlad has shown him kindness during his worst moments and took him in. The first thing he did was take away the only thing Vlad had. His ghost half , Vlad Plasmius. Since he was incomplete just like Vlad’s ghost half. Instead of merging with a human half. He decided to merge with a ghost half and become full ghost.
@@martmandred9182Danny Phantom displays wrath, sadism and vengefulness even before fusing with Vlad Plasmius. He knows Vlad was just trying to help but immediately attacks him. Smiles as he takes the only thing Vlad has in his life away from him.
I think Danny’s ghost reacted like that was because until that Moment Danny was half ghost, his ghost will be effected by things on his human side and Vice versa. So those painful emotions were affecting it, his rage and depression of Everyone he loved dying and his anger towards Vlad were the reason he did that, then when Vlad’s More Powerful, evil ghost mixed with it it created that truly evil persona Dark Danny had
This is my favorite kind of villain. It’s not just a villain of the week, nor just an evil counterpart trope, but is the actual protagonist who became the very thing he swore to destroy. Then have him go up agains the his original self before becoming evil. In these type of stories the main protagonist knows how powerful he is and knows how to out smart anyone, but doesn’t think about how much a threat he could potentially become. This gives tension to the story where if the protagonist is the most power in existence, and if he turned evil, it could mean the world’s total annihilation. Some examples are, Injustice Superman, The Batman Who Laughs, and The Dark Lord from Doom Eternal.
Idk where people are getting the "he kept the human half's corpse inside himself" aspect. Because he changed into his human self in the episode? I just assumed he was able to shape shift to a certain point. At least to look like his human self.
It’s because he rings back to being part human and as a teenager no less since thats when his himan life ended. How can he do that when the two parts of him are all ghost? If it was shapeshifting he would have just turned into him with such a power (which we don’t even know if all ghosts can learn that ability). Its very morbid to think about he may well have kept the body for if he needed a human disguise.
I don't think its a corpse I think its a modified version of his ability to turn back into a human. That explosion probably destroyed most of his human self if not all of it. I know Vald survived but it seems Danny took the full brunt of it. I think after Dan Phantom killed his human self his ability to turn back into a human changed into an ability to look like his former human self before he died but he is still a ghost. Which would explain why he couldn't just transform back and walk through the ghost shield.
I never understood why Danny's ghost half did that seeing they've been separated before and he immediately returned to Danny or continued to be a hero. But he carried all of Danny's darkest emotions during his most difficult time. Without his human self to keep him in check all he wanted to do was inflict the same pain on others. Combining with Vald's ghost half who also carried his resentment for losing Maddy and well, you get that.
I saw a good comment once regarding a final confrontation he'd have with his adult self " 'Why'd you fuse with Vlad? You could have gone any other way!' 'Well, without my humanity holding back, I sought what all ghosts sought, power, and with Vlad's years of expertise, I knew it was an opportunity far too good to pass up, sure I didn't count on the side effects, but I daresay the pros outweighed the cons' "
I’m starting to think that after a while even the hurt that Danny Felt and wanted to escape his Phantom side wanted to escape form feeling that pain as well, and especially all on his own knowing that Danny didn’t want him no more as of Blaming the Phantom for the lost of the family and Friends , it was wayyy too much for either of them to bare. It also reminds me of Peter and Venom when Peter no longer wanted Venom for his own personal reasons, Venom having a mind of its own. Grew to hate Peter because he was hurt by the fact that he was no longer wanted anymore. Both Danny and the Phantom lost a lot in this scene
ngl I just go with this as the background, Alternate Danny Traumatized from all this asked to be split from his Humanity, One took on his Negative Mental and Deepest thoughts separated as a Ghost and the other was just dealing with the rest of the emotional and mental toll, maybe along the lines of what to do with himself or a purpose after what had occurred. The Ghost that remained had all of Danny's memories so maybe it just wanted to conflict the world with his rage and wanted to consolidate his power with Vlad's Ghost Half. With the other episode Danny only separated his Motivated/Heroic Self into a Ghost, While the Human side just took on a unmotivated self and only wants to entertain himself with distractions. Also they had different methods of separation, situation, reasoning (One was about Family Loss, The other was like Having a Life or smthin. (Blame the writers for re-using the same separation story idk)
He was responsible for creating Danny phantom but he wasn’t responsible for the writing. If you want his writing you can think season 3, an that was a shit show. He didn’t like the idea of ghosts being dead people, an he definitely wouldn’t hav let evil Danny kill his human half
This was quite the Movie event for Nickelodeon! Never before had I seen one of their shows take such a dark turn! I mean all of Danny's friends and family died in an explosion, and his evil ghost self kills his human self! That felt more like something akin to an animated adult sitcom like the Simpsons! But I can definitely appreciate them for going so dark in a kid's show. Made for, imo Danny Phantom's best episode! Kudos to Butch for doing what SpongeBob would never dare to do!
The earlier show “are you afraid of the dark” went into super dark territory quite regularly, funnily enough. This was one of the few times that “batch” of Nickelodeon shows did though.
@@videogameguy101 excuse me but Fairly Oddparents is my favorite Nicktoon! I've seen every episode and movie! Even the terrible Chloë season. 🙄 I know the movies were dark and gritty, especially the Wishology Trilogy which is still my favorite of the movies, but no major characters ever died in those. What I'm saying about the Ultimate Enemy is that I've never seen major characters die in an episode of a kid's show. Because in Evil Danny's future, like EVERYBODY DIED!!!
@@train4292 I'm just saying that Danny Phantom the Ultimate Enemy went dark in a way NO OTHER Nicktoon WOULD DARE TO DO! SpongeBob was just an example.
No, it only acted that way bc of the pain and guilt and hate he had for himself which carried on into his ghost half. There's been another time when his ghost half and human half split but his ghost half never turned malicious. There's also another time when his ghost half flies right back into his human half.
Which is stupid because Vlad, despite getting his ass kicked several times too many in the show, is portrayed as a stronger and more experienced reflection of Danny...and yet anything Vlad can do, Danny ends up doing better...just because.
@@GhostGuy99 It's a prominent line of thought, lots of people within the Phandom subscribe to it, that Danny in comparison to the elder Vlad is a more _complete_ hybrid, being that he was infused with ectoplasm from the entirety of the Ghost Zone via a full-body shot *all. at. once,* that his transformation was instant, whilst Vlad himself only had ectoplasm hit him in the face, as such as it sank into his pores the substance gradually (again, he was hospitalized for YEARS) spread to and overtook/mutated the rest of his body.
@@hidan407 It's simple Carnage Spider (Spider-Man The Animated Series 90s). Wolf Spider (Ultimate Spider-Man). Evil counterparts of Peter Parker from different alternative universes.
Im not sure a kids show has ever gone darker than this. The protagonists family and friends all dying in an explosion leads him to his arch nemesis who trys to make him an emotionless husk, but instead makes him evil and kills him, leaving said nemesis alive just to wallow in the pain of what had happened. Sure the disaster is averted in the episode, but the fact they went this far and explicitly killed this many people is crazy.
Have yall seen and noticed at 1:41 how danny got damaged from his looks before getting killed by his own half fused evil ghost. Dark danny really fucked him up showing no mercy and having him killed afterwards.
Similar to Onslaughts origin from Marvel Basically Professor Xavier used his powers to remove all of Magneto's evil personality but instead they went into him and also gained Magneto's powers
Speaking of Marvel Comics, it goes similar to the Hulk and the Maestro relations. Maestro is an evil future version of the Hulk who was defeated when he underestimated his younger self.
Except here, Danny tried to possess Vlad...and instead of Vlad absorbing Danny to become even more powerful, Danny somehow absorbs Vlad from within and turns evil. 15 years later and this plothole still doesn't make sense.
Despite of that, Vlad was still a bad person without his ghost power. In the alternate timeline where Danny tried to prevent accident happened, it was Jack (Danny's father) who had Vlad's ghost power, while Vlad became an abusive husband, treating Maddie as his own crown jewel than loving her.
Only if they have the same writers/quality of writing, as well as the same animation style, as before (Also, little to no intervention from corporate Nickelodeon that would compromise the quality of the show). Otherwise, this show will probably be given the Teen Titans Go treatment.
He was probably going to destroy Danny's Future by having him Work at the Nasty Burger since one of the employees was at the meeting for the CAT Testing
I didn’t like how things ended for Vlad in the final episode. I know he was evil, but this episode expresses that he had a good soul deep down, even more so when he showed genuine remorse for his wrongdoings.
After seeing this years later makes me question the entire thing. 1. How does removing the ghost get rid of human emotions? What was the plan? 2. So his ghost side was always evil? 3. Has Vlad or Danny ever tried to possess one another before? Even if they didn't how was he able to easily control his body? Can't ghosts be kicked out if the hosts will is strong enough? 4.How is possessing his ghost half cause them to merge? 5. Also how did Vlad survive but human Danny didn't?
I'll try to answer these best I can 1. It can be said that the negative emotions are multiple as a half ghost throughout the show Danny is shown to get stronger with negative emotions. So a ghost half any negative emotions is higher than a regular person. Plan was probably to remove his ghost half temporary so the emotions Danny felt wasn't as intense and also Danny didn't do anything he would have regretted later on and later merge the two back. 2. I wouldn't say evil I believe his half is power by negative feelings. And as someone once said awhile ago the ghost half might of felt rejected by Danny because it was going through the same emotion but now was rejected by it's last person he was pushed to the edged and found safety in Vlad ghost emotions. 2. Yes they have actually at least Danny had for Vlad but I believe not as a ghost but his human half. Also it's based on intention if you don't plan to fuse it won't happen. 4. This is just me but I believe it is based on intent just as being able to fly or go through things. They would have to want it. Ofc they have to be powerful enough too as we saw Danny was overwhelmed by Vlads ghost half but Danny goal was just to fuse not really caring if it was him or Vlad 5. It is said Dark Danny wanted someone to tell his story of how he came to be. But to me it is a mixture of Vlad Ghost half not wanting to hurt him and Danny knowing that Vlad is the last person that could remember the family he lost. As for his human half after being rejected and blaming himself he couldn't and wouldn't forgive himself for being weak and his human half reflects that
I asked the same things and, while this was still a fantastic two-parter, wouldn't it have been smarter if Danny and Vlad's ghost halves ACTUALLY fused to make a whole new ghost that's much more powerful than both of them separately? Like, they're both ghost halves, so merging them together should've made a DBZ fusion of the two that threatens everything and everyone. Instead, Ghost Danny tried to posess Ghost Vlad, it backfired, Vlad's powers corrupted Danny and basically turned him evil, they treat Dark Danny as a darker reflection of the real Danny, and never once does Vlad's mannerisms or personality traits or even memories arise within Dark Danny.
@@omarbrown3760That threw me off when i first watched. This was the first time they treat the ghost "half" as a kind of separate persona like the Hulk right? I always saw the Danny Phantom transformation as just a powerup.
@@montecristosmith2343 yeah same never thought of him as a separate person and I figured it was the case for awhile but as he grew his ghost half did as will creating a more instinctive personality that only Danny human half unknowingly held back
I guess therapy & counseling aren't much of a go-to thing in this universe; like, why bother hiring someone to talk with Danny and help him through the grieving process when you can just do this lol
To be fair, I don't think Vlad or Danny had any idea it was even possible. They just thought it was a much faster solution than having to carry the pain forever.
More when all of that were consequences of Danny's choices Wich I find too realistic for this show like none told Danny to cheat on the exam yet he decided to do so anyway and instead of admitting he was wrong he blamed his powers instead
I’m going to assume that therapy and grief counseling wouldn’t help due him being human-ghost hybrid .This may have been one the few viable options for Danny .
Okay, couple of questions: why did Danny’s ghost half attack Vlad, and why did he try to possess Vlad’s ghost half? These are random things that just happened out of nowhere.
I think the separation process went backwards. Danny wanted Vlad to take aways his emotions to stop grieving, but the split caused the ghost half to come out with no feeling. So he was acting on self-preservation only, not caring the reason Vlad separated Danny from his ghost half.
So, Danny was never the culprit here at all. It was just one stupid mistake that kicked off a crazy chain of events that lead to a genuine humanitarian science experiment going horribly wrong. The kind of “wrong” that resulted in the ghost half of his supernatural essence gaining sentience, which then turned evil, killed it’s only mortal bond, and became the deadliest threat to humanity Amity Park and the Ghost Zone have ever faced. This show has a fair number of grim moments, but this episode by far takes the cake. What I can’t quite figure out is who exactly was the real Danny. I always thought Vlad was trying to get rid of Danny’s powers by separating the ghost half from the human half. But now I don’t understand who the “real” Danny is. Is it the human side who wanted to make the pain go away, or is it the ghost side who embodied Danny’s pain altogether?
This should help. Tumblr user @Monotype-on-phantom has a fabulous post, from several years back, that goes into detail on how exactly they conceive of Danny’s being a human/ghost hybrid, on whether or not _Phantom_ in and of itself exists as an entirely seperate conscious entity. monotype-on-phantom.tumblr.com/post/164286890341/yo-i-think-about-this-a-lot-but-where-dannys
Yeah before this storyline the ghost transformation seemed like just a boost in power and slight change in appearance but here they kinda make it seem like Danny and his ghost half are like Banner and the Hulk.
@@yeetnessthegreater1298 That’s the superficial nature of the situation. What I’m trying to understand is which half represents Danny’s true self, not as both human and ghost, but as a person in either entity. His mind, body, and soul were obviously split in two, but which one of them is acting FOR Danny. Did “he” make the decision that turned him evil, or is “he” the normal 14-year-old boy the ghost half left behind? Plus, all that stuff Vlad said about “no more painful human emotions to drag you down” just make the grasping even less possible
Pretty much. The guy tried to possess Vlad, and somehow that caused Vlad to get absorbed instead of the other way around? I'd get it if Ghost Danny tried to absorb Ghost Vlad, and it'd make the transformation make more sense but...nope.
I always think Dark Danny let Vlad Masters live because Vlad Plasmius didn’t want him dead. Vlad ghost half was the only thing he had in his life. Unlike Phantom who was betrayed and discarded by Danny.
I did wish Vlad was not made out to be a true villain in the series finale. He shoulve been more of an anti hero kind of figure. The Ultimate Enemy really shows Vlad's kind and caring side
I still have this theory that danny never wanted this and vlad was doing an experiment on danny without his knowledge that went wrong and now he is telling a false story and merely helping again means redemption for that past deed.
Danny Phantom was my favorite character on television and I loved it so much since when I was a kid. I wish they made more episodes of it because it was way better than SpongeBob and Fairy odd parents. I wish they would have made a crossover with Kim Possible and Ben 10 and My life as a Teenage Robot and Jake Long.
The funny/ironic thing about villians like that is once they finally get what they've wanted its never in a way that they expected. And then more often than not they have no idea what to do with themselves other than wither about in their regrets.
In Identity Crisis, Danny split his human and ghost halves using Fenton Ghost Catcher because he's sick of his responsibilities messing with his life, and he turned out fine.
judging by how damaged Danny looks... Dark Danny might didn´t just killed him right away. But i guess "played" a little with him. And by how Vlad´s reaction... i guess, he heard Danny´s screams until it went silent, as Vlad escaped the mansion. And the last thing he saw, was the explosion and a devilsh laughter of Dark Danny.
I Actually Was Shocked When Vlad Mentioned that "Some things My Boy Are better left unsaid" Stating that Vlad really Doesn't want to Talk about What happened. And After What he just witnessed, I don't Blame him.
Macabre to think that because of his negative emotions, Danny's ghost side became evil, separated from its bearer and even killed him, macabre and heavy if you think about it. Furthermore Vlad changed in this timeline After this tragedy and trying to help someone grieving and traumatized, this created a threat to the multiverse
In terms of character writing , Season 3 was downright terrible.They really had their best choice with Vlad.Vlad's easily the best Danny Phantom character and one of the best and most well written characters in cartoons in general.And when i mean to develop his character more , no i don't mean have him hook up with Maddie and all , no , i wouldn't even think of giving Danny some thorough divorce especially in his 14s.What i mean is that we deserved to be seen Vlad overcoming his infatuation with Maddie and evolve into a healthier individual.Stuff like that exist in real life too and in terms of adults they have to be strong and overcome them , i'm not saying it won't be hard but it's easier for an adult to overcome any infatuation than a teen in general.And the show needed to go there.Like just with that it would point at the younger audience that yes , love is beautiful but it also hurts a lot in some cases and still , you shouldn't sacrifice your health and well-being because of it.Danny and Vlad deserved a healthy relationship with each other , one where both of them would always come to each other's side if they needed each other.I'll talk aboit Jack later.Also you may not have thought of this before but Vlad's influence in the show is even deeper than you think.At his school Danny is surrounded by a whole crowd of priviledged teenagers in terms of money that none of them ever thinks that maybe he or she should use his or her priviledges to achieve something great and challenge themselves , they just take them for granted and use them daily in their lives thinking they'll be living a life of comfort.Within the exception of Vlad that became rich because he , unlike them , knew how to use his wit , his knowledge and all to get to where he is today.Then comes Valerie the only one of these individuals we are seen that is always on top of Mr.Lancer's class and is rich and all but likewise with Vlad devotes a great amount of time for future plans and to use her priviledges to upscale herself in the world and become successful , she uses her priviledges to their maximum potential showing no passion for stopping and taking them for granted.Do you see it?The show could also transmit the message that "If you're born with priviledges compared to other people , first of all you don't know at all how lucky you are , don't ever lay them to rest and use them to their maximum potential , you can achieve great things!".But at the final season?No.The show subtly tells you all priviledged people are douches and the unpriviledged are always right no matter what , they are always suffering etc. Season 3 of Danny Phantom was a complete letdown comprised of wasted potential and missed opportunities.Hell , they even made Jack a bigger idiot than the one he was.Allow me to say that yes , we needed the realization of what he did to Vlad and the imminent apology.But what?Jack literally mutated his best friend by accident after being told he had a ton of miscalculations , after being told he should be the last guy toying with ghosts and stuff , Vlad confessing that because of his whole time in rehab Jack was free to steal the love of his life and after all of that , Jack drops "I'm sorry , really sorry"?That must have been like the most apathetic apology i've seen in cartoons.Sometimes i actually hated how Jack was so stupid but still managed to get away with everything because he has Ultimate Luck.
Well for those who’s saying why Danny’s ghost half was evil because he was fused with vlads evil half and he was mad that Danny removed him from his human half
The one thing they never explained in this episode is how Sam, Tucker, Jazz, Jack, Maddie, and Mr Lancer ended up strapped to the boiler in the first place , who the hell was Danny fighting? How did his friends, family, and teacher end up in the middle of it?? How did he end up using so much energy that he wasn’t able to save them?
I still don't get it. What does 0:43 [no painful emotions] have to do with 0:53 [human/ghost splitting] and 0:59 [malevolence]? No painful emotions would imply (as far as I'm aware) uninterested and unemotional, not particularly vicious and outraged. Besides, I wouldn't say humans and ghosts (within Danny Phantom, of course) are equivalent or connected to emotions. Some people say that Danny's separated ghost-half is the form of his negative emotions, like self-anger, regret, and mourn, but that's impossible. The ghost that came out doesn't care about anyone; he has no love or respect, so he wouldn't mourn his loved ones and blame himself. Maybe it'd be best to explain in alphabetical or numerical order (preferably vertically), to help me understand and catch on. The theories they've told me can be very long, confusing, and cluttered.
(Based off what I know) I'm pretty Vlad was wrong. He ASSUMED Danny's ghost half wouldn't have any emotions but this is kinda like when Danny was split into two that one time. His ghost still had emotions as well as his human half. Point it, emotions dwell with everyone. Ghosts and humans. I assume ghost danny, at the time, was full of anger, grief and pain, which in turn led him to take it out on vlad, whom he's been fighting for a while. Afte reading the new comic, a few things make much more sense
@@dweebtastic5931 Well, remember, I said it was impossible the ghost is the form of his negative emotions, like self-anger, regret, and mourn, because he doesn't care about anyone and wouldn't mourn his loved ones and blame himself. You said "I assume ghost danny, at the time, was full of anger, grief and pain"
@jakebastian6726 self-anger, regret, and mourn Ghost danny probably directed this at vlad. His mind probably wasn't clear (since splitting yourself like this never means something good or will happen smoothly). Ghost danny directed his emotions at Vlad, since he was standing over him with the Ghost gauntlets. Granted Danny should have known the reason why, but with fighting Vlad all this time, Ghost danny probably thought vlad had some ulterior motive
@@stephenking5852 _Danny Phantom: A Glitch in Time._ It's a comic book that was released earlier this year and is a continuation of the series taking place immediately after the events of _Phantom Planet_ and sees the return of Vlad and Dark Danny.
What really strikes out here is that this wasn’t some evil plan of Vlad’s. He was genuinely trying to help an distraught and traumatized boy, and it just went horribly wrong.
To be fair…he never had anything against Danny at first. It was his parents. And they were his friends still…so he understands Danny loss
@@williamnguyen8663or at least Maddie
What strikes me wired is that Ghost Dsnny would do such a thing, I thought Ghost Danny would carry the same thoughts and afflictions Regular Danny would take. I thought it'd be more possible to have Ghost Danny just try to immediately return to Danny's body after being pulled like that
@@lelouch3666You basically answered your own question there. "Carry the same thoughts and afflictions..."
Imagine the depressing and angry thoughts and feelings being repressed by Danny during that time, no longer wanting to be a hero because he lost his loved ones.
Now, the ghost part of him has been seperated from his body, carrying these dark thoughts and emotions as an independent sentient being, seemingly as if to be disposed of, like junk.
Just like last time, really.
The implication that Datk Danny killed his human self and has been keeping his corpse inside of him is so dark.
Well that does explain why his human form is still a teen still very dark
Yep....
That explains a lot.
Where are you getting that implication?
@@maniacgreen8609 Not sure where everyones getting that idea. I just assumed he could shapeshift, so to speak, into his younger form.
“Some things, my boy, are better left unsaid” Indeed.
I think it was his way of saying he killed his human half but took the corpse and absorb it inside himself
@onepieceking1770 thats true because he did turn into his human half in order to make sure he existed in his timeline
@@miketherobotinkling7741 yep....
@onepieceking1770 i had an idea, evil danny escapes and hunts down danny phantom and seeks revenge after being defeated, danny goes to the other ghost and forms a team in order to bring down his evil future self because he only got lucky to stop him so danny and the villains form a team to defeat evil danny for good and this time he makes sure he is down for good
@@miketherobotinkling7741 well thing is he tried getting his old villains or foes that hate him to join with him in the future but dark danny has done alot worse to them all
He crippled Johnny 13 and may have erased his gf
Ember let herself go with gaining alot of weight but it must've been a confidence boost gone
Box ghost actually became badass but many sacrifices were made to him that turned him badass (him and the lunch lady ghost have a daughter)
Vortech and skullker fused into 1 being since 2 of them couldnt beat dark Danny alone
As for the rest.... well he may have gotten rid of them out of his life for good....
“All you wanted was to make the hurt go away”
That line hits deep.
Those who've experienced depression felt this.
Me too
@@cochiefemeralds3616 sadly it went wrong because Danny Phantom still thinks it's his fault that his family and friends were gone and he wanted to get rid of that feeling so he fuse with Vlad to feel hole again since his human half blame him for what happened
I love Danny he doesn’t deserve to hurt like this!
@@Toonlover7777 Danny’s town is cruel for no reason and got what they deserved when Dark Danny killed them.
0:38 I like how Vlad's expression changes. He might have been planning to torment Danny, but when he saw how distraught Danny really was, he dropped it and decided to help him instead. Vlad wasn't lying when he said he was the only one who could understand what Danny was going through. He understood perfectly.
I don’t think he was planning to torment him at all. I think he genuinely wanted to help him but realized that he’s not going to get over this
@@jimmyelkordy3752 he was definitely planning to manipulate him with the evil sound cue at first and fake smile/shoulder touch. Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom always had a sound cue like that to signify villainy.
Then he saw Danny looking at the picture of his parents, which mirrors later this scene when Vlad himself is looking at a picture of his own. I have no doubt he had long stretches of loneliness and regret over the years and immediately understood what Danny was going through. That’s when he decided to help.
When you think about it, Evil Danny literally lost everything. I guess Vlad saw that he really couldn’t do anything to hurt him anymore and instead decided to help him.
In a way, vlad does care for Danny
@@mikedawolf95You might be interested in a comic expanding Dark Danny's story, it's called "A Glitch in Time“.
This honestly one of the best villain origins stories I’ve ever seen for a cartoon character.
Evil Danny is back in a new comic.
A Glitch in Time
That's odd, but then is what have seen
@@marmik961 Okay I'm gonna have to check this out.
@@marmik961 i heard it's not that good.
To OP: as much as I liked it as a kid, even back then I wondered why Vlad was dumb enough to think removing a powerful phantom's humanity was a good idea lmao.
Like, Danny had kicked his ass so many times before.
@@denkerbosu3551 From what I've seen, it's pretty decent. They retcon a few things but they also give Vlad a pretty good redemption arc.
Ngl that was... A really dark way of teaching us not to cheat in an exam
It always stuck out to me how dark and sad this was along with Vlad, who was actually sympathetic towards Danny and genuinely wanted to help him.
Yeah, I saw him as him actually wanting to be an uncle figure for him.
As a kid I thought maybe he wanted to remove the ghost half. As an adult I realize that Vlad is devastated by Maddie’s death and just seeing a kid who lost his entire family in one freak accident. Even the most evil humans would feel bad
@@jimmyelkordy3752 if we're talking realistically. Nahhh
@@jimmyelkordy3752 Ramsay Snow: _"Is that a challenge to a game I hear?"_ 😀
@@MrDibara you stay back in your own show or we will feed you to some ghost dogs
The first time I saw this flashback, I was absolutely shocked. Poor Danny.
same
Same 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Dark Danny may have regular Danny’s memories, but what the former lacks is his guilt, empathy, and heart! ☠️😈
Don’t you love it when the music starts up when he’s released?! It’s amazing!
Honestly this was a pretty dark episode, like just this part alone in which Dark Danny straight up murders his human self but left Vlad alive to tell the tale of his beginning is just dark on it's own.
i dont think he left vlad alive intentionally. yeah he explicitly went out of his way to kill danny, but the house also literally exploded. im pretty sure dan just assumed vlad would be dead as he stayed in the ruined mansion and never left for 10 years. i was honestly surprised myself to even see that vlad was durable enough to survive being at ground zero like that.
@@MasterOfTruck Yeah like if I know anything about explosions, you have to take into account the epicenter of an explosion like the further away you are from the center of a blast, the less energy you're getting hit with and while it is not shown here, it was very much likely that the mansion exploding didn't hit Vlad that much or he was further away enough to the point that the energy from the explosion didn't hit him that hard.
@@Yoshirocks92 dan blew up his lab, which is in the basement of the mansion. as i previously stated, vlad was at ground zero because he was in the same room. he literally couldnt be any physically closer to the explosion unless dan set it off right on top of him.
@@MasterOfTruck But thing is, when Jazz confronted Dan, the latter mentioned that he had yet to find Vlad’s Ghost Portal since he mentioned that once he found it, that was gone too as that gave Jazz to tell Danny that Future Vlad still had his Ghost Portal for him to escape the Future Ghost Zone.
@@Yoshirocks92 vlad's ghost portal wasnt in the lab that was in his mansions basement, it was at vladco. thats why dan never found it. vlad was presumed dead because dan got too over-zealous (but lets be real, you wouldnt really expect anyone to survive an explosion of that magnitude to the face anyway). if dan knew he was still alive, he wouldve never wasted his years searching for vlad's portal to destroy it but rather just beat the answer out of him to get its location.
According to TV Tropes this would be an example of "Fallen Hero," "From Nobody to Nightmare," "Painful Transformation," and "You Do NOT Want to Know."
Not to mention "Enemy Without" tv trope.
How about just throw all of those out the window and just chalk it all down to him just having... *'One Bad Day'*
Danny was hardly a nobody. Dude was basically a superhero.
Also, his one bad day wasn't the issue, it was what someone else did to this to help him cope with it.
Don’t forget “you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain” great episode 😎
Ughhhh my favorite website on the Internet TV Tropes it is good I am not only fan of that website my. Nigga
1:28 David Kaufman's scream here still gives me goosebumps to this day! It really made the transformation into Dark Danny feel even MORE agonizing than it looked with the cracks in Danny's skin!
agreed
Everyone Screams When Transforming
Danny Sceams = Dark Danny
Goku Sceams = Super Saiyan 3
Not just a chilling scream, but an awesome evil laugh. His voice acting is underrated. Too bad I haven't heard him being in anything else.
This was beyond from the usual yells in the show…. I actually sensed and somewhat felt all the pain and rage that was emanating within Danny’s mind.
I believe that the fusion process was extremely painful for Danny Phantom to go through.
I'm surprised the Nickelodeon censors even allowed this episode to air at all. Even an 8 year old would understand Human Danny was murdered by his corrupted ghost half.
Regulations were different back then.
Yea I remember when this aired I thought “well he’s dead than… neat..”
@@dwecktekI never thought that Danny was killed by his ghost if it weren't for comments in this video.
Maybe those who censoring Nick back then are also having same thought like me.
I was around 5, maybe even less, years old when this episode aired.
And I immediently got that Danny was brutally murdered.
But instead of being traumatized, I was just shocked. Both at how scary, tragic, and badass this scene was
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl Actually, they were a bit tighter back then.
The Avatar: The Last Airbender regulations prevented them from showing death directly for the most part but changed by the time they got to Korra to show more dark and gritty things.
R.I.P. Martin Mull (Vlad Plasmius)
It’s all because of a career test he tried to cheat on resulting a bad future.
There were probably more factors than that, but that’s what causes the chain of events to be set in motion for Danny to end up losing his world and his humanity.
The nasty sauce overheated. And mr lancer of all people had a mandatory meeting with the Fentons there. Even sam and tucker were there for support. Did this happen in the original timeline?
Good thing I did a better thing was take my exit exam numerous times until I passed.
@@themasterofcommentsandrese4351 I think the only difference between both the original explosion and the one involving Dark Danny was that none of Clockwork’s interference happened and he wasn’t the cause for past Danny to end up getting the C.A.T answers. There were probably a few original ghosts that went after Danny that day and caused similar incidents, but Box Lunch and Dark Danny were the ones to have events play out exactly, whether by accident or by force.
Sometimes it’s the small things that trigger the big events.
The fact that Danny's ghost self in this didn't even hesitate to attack Vlad, ripped out Vlad's ghost half, and merge with it is something you'd never expect. Even killing Danny's human self is horrifying 😳
I think it's hinted he ate human Danny
The fact that you said the fact that shows the fact that you didn’t really need to say the fact that
@@kingpen5866 😂😂🤣
@@kingpen5866 Lol! 😆🤣
@@Fenris2HE WHAT?!
Rip vlads voice actor
Martin mull.
In the end you're always your own worst enemy
In my life, I'm my own Final Boss 😬
A good Villain with real motivations, sticks to those motives whether they stay true or get twisted. Its very good to see that Vlad still retained seeing that he could be the family for Danny that he always wanted to be but understands under those circumstances he’s more respectful of what he needs to be supported. Its just sucks how inherently evil their ghosts happen to be.
I don't think Danny's other half was evil just angry after everything that happened to him. Vlad took the human hurting away and all that was left was the anger and the ghost half was just attacked by those claws in his chest. I see why he attacked Vlad
@@lightdarksoul2097 But then... *why rip Vlad of HIS human half and then DIVE HEADFIRST to **_MERGE_** with the ghostly bastard?*
I dunno, me feels Ghost Danny had always had that little bit of evil deep inside, with only Danny's humanity keeping it in check. But with both halves seperated, _it was time to let loose._
@@MrDibara I mean I think with the web episode we have seen his ghost half separated and it wanted evil was it
@@lightdarksoul2097 I think the series has shown Ghosts can be very leaning towards, evil, anger, vengeance, etc. Its just Danny's human conscience is what helps balance the two even though he greatly needed support from his friends on how he should be responsible with his powers.
I think most of the ghosts run more on obessession then the rest though. All are some kind of obessessed with something and in their ghost forms they aim to get it. Like real ghosts it's their unfinished business kind of thing. There are certain ones like Pyrrah and Clockwork who seem more normal kinda and they likely were born ghosts@@inanimatesum4945
1. I always loved the idea that Vlad, even at his worst, still respected Danny
2. I am SO GLAD that we finally got the answer to the loose plot thread that is Dark Danny.
What do you mean by that second point, this was already in the original, or was there something that got announced?
Yeah I don't know what this guys talking about. It was never a loose plot thread.
Loose plot thread? Dark Danny made his debut in the movie which also explains how he came to be. The hell are you talking about
@@homerman76
At the end of the special, its implied that, eventually, Dark Danny would get free from his capsule.
A Glitch in Time , a Danny Phantom comic book that was released recently as of me writting this and published by Abrams Books & Nickelodeon , is set after the end of the show and sees the return of both Clockwork and Dark Danny.
Won't say anything more for spoiler reasons. But I highly recommend it if you want a more satisfying conclusion to the show than what we got.
Just a little note tho:
The canonicity of the comic is a bit up in the air since Butch Hartman had nothing to do with it. But considering the clown sh!t he's been up to recently, I understand why Nickelodeon wanted nothing to do with him.
@@filipvadas7602As far as I could tell, one thing appears to not quite add up with the finale. Spoilers for those who have yet to read, even though it's a plot point at the start.
Apparently the positioning of Vlad after being struck by the asteroid makes no sense. The Disasteroid struck him after phasing through Earth while in the comic he watched the Disasteroid phase through Earth from a distance.
Years laters (in this timeline) Vlad finally has Dark Danny as his son in one of his Danny clones body.
You read the novel
Makes you realize that Danny’s ghost half really did have his own personality and once Danny turned against him and blamed it for what happened his alter ego actually murdered him for it
No that’s not what happened. Ghosts are fuelled by negative emotions so when he used them to separate Danny Fenton and Danny Phantom. All his rage, bitterness and vengefulness went to his ghost half. That’s why once his ghost half woke up he was very angry. Even though Vlad has shown him kindness during his worst moments and took him in. The first thing he did was take away the only thing Vlad had. His ghost half , Vlad Plasmius. Since he was incomplete just like Vlad’s ghost half. Instead of merging with a human half. He decided to merge with a ghost half and become full ghost.
@@thedelordhimselfgokublackThe result of that was something dark. The evil of Plasmius overwhelmed Phantom, which send him into a tipping point.
@@martmandred9182Danny Phantom displays wrath, sadism and vengefulness even before fusing with Vlad Plasmius. He knows Vlad was just trying to help but immediately attacks him. Smiles as he takes the only thing Vlad has in his life away from him.
I think Danny’s ghost reacted like that was because until that Moment Danny was half ghost, his ghost will be effected by things on his human side and Vice versa. So those painful emotions were affecting it, his rage and depression of Everyone he loved dying and his anger towards Vlad were the reason he did that, then when Vlad’s More Powerful, evil ghost mixed with it it created that truly evil persona Dark Danny had
@@thedelordhimselfgokublackthat answered a question I've had for years. That definitely explains why Ghost Danny immediately turned on Vlad.
This is my favorite kind of villain. It’s not just a villain of the week, nor just an evil counterpart trope, but is the actual protagonist who became the very thing he swore to destroy. Then have him go up agains the his original self before becoming evil. In these type of stories the main protagonist knows how powerful he is and knows how to out smart anyone, but doesn’t think about how much a threat he could potentially become. This gives tension to the story where if the protagonist is the most power in existence, and if he turned evil, it could mean the world’s total annihilation. Some examples are, Injustice Superman, The Batman Who Laughs, and The Dark Lord from Doom Eternal.
Idk where people are getting the "he kept the human half's corpse inside himself" aspect. Because he changed into his human self in the episode? I just assumed he was able to shape shift to a certain point. At least to look like his human self.
Exactly.
Why would he need the human body at that point?
It’s because he rings back to being part human and as a teenager no less since thats when his himan life ended. How can he do that when the two parts of him are all ghost? If it was shapeshifting he would have just turned into him with such a power (which we don’t even know if all ghosts can learn that ability). Its very morbid to think about he may well have kept the body for if he needed a human disguise.
Killing his human self was figurative xd
I don't think he could just shapeshift otherwise he likely could have tricked someone to let him into Amity Park's force field.
I don't think its a corpse I think its a modified version of his ability to turn back into a human. That explosion probably destroyed most of his human self if not all of it. I know Vald survived but it seems Danny took the full brunt of it. I think after Dan Phantom killed his human self his ability to turn back into a human changed into an ability to look like his former human self before he died but he is still a ghost. Which would explain why he couldn't just transform back and walk through the ghost shield.
I never understood why Danny's ghost half did that seeing they've been separated before and he immediately returned to Danny or continued to be a hero. But he carried all of Danny's darkest emotions during his most difficult time. Without his human self to keep him in check all he wanted to do was inflict the same pain on others. Combining with Vald's ghost half who also carried his resentment for losing Maddy and well, you get that.
Im thinking the exact same thing
I saw a good comment once regarding a final confrontation he'd have with his adult self " 'Why'd you fuse with Vlad? You could have gone any other way!' 'Well, without my humanity holding back, I sought what all ghosts sought, power, and with Vlad's years of expertise, I knew it was an opportunity far too good to pass up, sure I didn't count on the side effects, but I daresay the pros outweighed the cons' "
So the negative emotions made Danny's ghost half volatile?
I’m starting to think that after a while even the hurt that Danny Felt and wanted to escape his Phantom side wanted to escape form feeling that pain as well, and especially all on his own knowing that Danny didn’t want him no more as of Blaming the Phantom for the lost of the family and Friends , it was wayyy too much for either of them to bare.
It also reminds me of Peter and Venom when Peter no longer wanted Venom for his own personal reasons, Venom having a mind of its own. Grew to hate Peter because he was hurt by the fact that he was no longer wanted anymore.
Both Danny and the Phantom lost a lot in this scene
ngl I just go with this as the background,
Alternate Danny Traumatized from all this asked to be split from his Humanity, One took on his Negative Mental and Deepest thoughts separated as a Ghost and the other was just dealing with the rest of the emotional and mental toll, maybe along the lines of what to do with himself or a purpose after what had occurred. The Ghost that remained had all of Danny's memories so maybe it just wanted to conflict the world with his rage and wanted to consolidate his power with Vlad's Ghost Half.
With the other episode Danny only separated his Motivated/Heroic Self into a Ghost, While the Human side just took on a unmotivated self and only wants to entertain himself with distractions. Also they had different methods of separation, situation, reasoning (One was about Family Loss, The other was like Having a Life or smthin.
(Blame the writers for re-using the same separation story idk)
the ultimate enemy...the worst version of ourselves
This truly was Butch Hartman's peak.
He was responsible for creating Danny phantom but he wasn’t responsible for the writing. If you want his writing you can think season 3, an that was a shit show. He didn’t like the idea of ghosts being dead people, an he definitely wouldn’t hav let evil Danny kill his human half
@@drLuigidrwell said, I wish more people understood that
@@drLuigidrSo he wanted ghost to be more like Mario or Pokemon where they're usually a race instead of actual dead people?
Except that he didn’t wrote those episodes X)
This was quite the Movie event for Nickelodeon! Never before had I seen one of their shows take such a dark turn! I mean all of Danny's friends and family died in an explosion, and his evil ghost self kills his human self! That felt more like something akin to an animated adult sitcom like the Simpsons! But I can definitely appreciate them for going so dark in a kid's show. Made for, imo Danny Phantom's best episode! Kudos to Butch for doing what SpongeBob would never dare to do!
The earlier show “are you afraid of the dark” went into super dark territory quite regularly, funnily enough. This was one of the few times that “batch” of Nickelodeon shows did though.
I guess you never watched any of the Fairly OddParents movies.
Butch knew how to go dark and gritty when he did.
@@videogameguy101 excuse me but Fairly Oddparents is my favorite Nicktoon! I've seen every episode and movie! Even the terrible Chloë season. 🙄 I know the movies were dark and gritty, especially the Wishology Trilogy which is still my favorite of the movies, but no major characters ever died in those. What I'm saying about the Ultimate Enemy is that I've never seen major characters die in an episode of a kid's show. Because in Evil Danny's future, like EVERYBODY DIED!!!
I dunno why we’re comparing Danny Phantom to SpongeBob. They’re both two very different shows
@@train4292 I'm just saying that Danny Phantom the Ultimate Enemy went dark in a way NO OTHER Nicktoon WOULD DARE TO DO! SpongeBob was just an example.
Interesting that Danny’s ghost half is initially malicious.
I think it was more angry than anything, Vlad had just stabbed it with claws
No, it only acted that way bc of the pain and guilt and hate he had for himself which carried on into his ghost half. There's been another time when his ghost half and human half split but his ghost half never turned malicious. There's also another time when his ghost half flies right back into his human half.
Dan Phantom is the most deadliest sociopath that Nick ever created.
Now that I think about it, the fact that Vlad's evil overwhelemed Danny, but he stilled stayed 'Danny' but evil, indicates how strong he really is.
It’s bs. Phantom was displaying wrath, vengefulness and sadism before fusing with Plasmius
Which is stupid because Vlad, despite getting his ass kicked several times too many in the show, is portrayed as a stronger and more experienced reflection of Danny...and yet anything Vlad can do, Danny ends up doing better...just because.
@@GhostGuy99
It's a prominent line of thought, lots of people within the Phandom subscribe to it, that Danny in comparison to the elder Vlad is a more _complete_ hybrid, being that he was infused with ectoplasm from the entirety of the Ghost Zone via a full-body shot *all. at. once,* that his transformation was instant, whilst Vlad himself only had ectoplasm hit him in the face, as such as it sank into his pores the substance gradually (again, he was hospitalized for YEARS) spread to and overtook/mutated the rest of his body.
@@Boss_Isaac That's... actually an interesting headcanon that explains everything.
It gets to show you that Danny is his own worst enemy.
Just like Peter Parker himself.
You forgot Doctor Strange and his encounter with Sinister Strange
@@luislopez3726 Sinister Strange ❓❗
Never heard of him.
@@javierrosas7238 it's from Multiverse Of Madness.
How is peter his own worse enemy?
@@hidan407 It's simple
Carnage Spider (Spider-Man The Animated Series 90s).
Wolf Spider (Ultimate Spider-Man).
Evil counterparts of Peter Parker from different alternative universes.
Before we had Goku Black and Future Zamasu we had Dark Danny/Dan Phantom...
Bro I said the same thing once.
Goku Black, before Goku Black was cool.
Im not sure a kids show has ever gone darker than this. The protagonists family and friends all dying in an explosion leads him to his arch nemesis who trys to make him an emotionless husk, but instead makes him evil and kills him, leaving said nemesis alive just to wallow in the pain of what had happened.
Sure the disaster is averted in the episode, but the fact they went this far and explicitly killed this many people is crazy.
Vlad, just get the boy a therapist and everything is fine. Don't just tear out his humanity.
Have yall seen and noticed at 1:41 how danny got damaged from his looks before getting killed by his own half fused evil ghost. Dark danny really fucked him up showing no mercy and having him killed afterwards.
He looks so scared and helpless…this really was such a sad and dark episode.
Wow, that was pure evil!
We have no clue that he even injured Danny here. He doesn’t look sadistic here just creepy
Similar to Onslaughts origin from Marvel
Basically Professor Xavier used his powers to remove all of Magneto's evil personality but instead they went into him and also gained Magneto's powers
Speaking of Marvel Comics, it goes similar to the Hulk and the Maestro relations.
Maestro is an evil future version of the Hulk who was defeated when he underestimated his younger self.
Except here, Danny tried to possess Vlad...and instead of Vlad absorbing Danny to become even more powerful, Danny somehow absorbs Vlad from within and turns evil.
15 years later and this plothole still doesn't make sense.
At 1:22 Vlad Plasmius was good for a second
It's Too Bad They Don't Make Cartoon T.V Shows Like This Anymore Best Believe It's The Honest Truth.
The only show, which is close to this level of 2000`s and, maybe, 90`s shows is Villainous, with it`s very creepy lore.
@@venom_spy437
And Hazbin Hotel and several others are close enough
Thank you, no cuts, no screen close-up, not a thing...
Great video!
I would like to think that in those 10 years Vlad has let go of his animosity towards Jack and also missed him too.
Vlad also lost his adopted son too...
Considering how Dark Danny bared his fangs with murder in his eyes, I think I have an idea on what's better left unsaid.
Tell me please
@@Dedi-m5n He ate his human half
The darkest episode of Danny phantom
Danny Phantom failed to realize what with great power comes great responsibility means.
Man, if I saw a face like that I'd be scared. (1:44-1:45)😱
Looks like a demon
Geez!
If only we had more dark danny
Sadly we can blame the cancelation of the series and the unfortunate passing of Clockworks VA for that one.
@@1cioda R.I.P
Actually I think there's a comic that has Dark Danny as the villain that came out recently.
@@1ciodaWho? I’m lost
There is a graphic novel coming out
Despite of that, Vlad was still a bad person without his ghost power.
In the alternate timeline where Danny tried to prevent accident happened, it was Jack (Danny's father) who had Vlad's ghost power, while Vlad became an abusive husband, treating Maddie as his own crown jewel than loving her.
I love this show, wish it could have a revival someday.
Some shows don't need a revival.
Sorry, but this is one ghost that should be left to rest.
No they’d just ruin it.
Only if they have the same writers/quality of writing, as well as the same animation style, as before (Also, little to no intervention from corporate Nickelodeon that would compromise the quality of the show). Otherwise, this show will probably be given the Teen Titans Go treatment.
They’d just fuck it up so naw
Man, i miss this series. I wish we could get one more ep or a sequel
It wouldn't be written nearly as good. I personally think we don't have too many capable writers of putting something out of this quality anymore.
I wish there was more of an explanation of why Danny’s ghost half fused with Plasmius it made no sense to me
I love the random explosion at the end 🤣
And all because Lancer had to meet Danny's parents in the wreckage of a destroyed fast food restaurant instead of y'know ANYWHERE else like his office
Mr Lancer has a thing for slandering that place I bet they put pickles on his burger and that's why he do it
He was probably going to destroy Danny's Future by having him Work at the Nasty Burger since one of the employees was at the meeting for the CAT Testing
I didn’t like how things ended for Vlad in the final episode. I know he was evil, but this episode expresses that he had a good soul deep down, even more so when he showed genuine remorse for his wrongdoings.
It's crazy how the graphic novel had his story continue.
Also weird way to continue it though.
The music in Danny Phantom is great and this so true in the ultimate enemy.
The Joker was right all it takes is one bad day to turn to lunacy.
Did Danny became evil cos of his own greed or because of the evil ghost side of Vlad?
@@Dedi-m5n sure it was a mixed emotions of anger and regret and also having Vlad’s evil ghost half didn’t help either
After seeing this years later makes me question the entire thing.
1. How does removing the ghost get rid of human emotions? What was the plan?
2. So his ghost side was always evil?
3. Has Vlad or Danny ever tried to possess one another before? Even if they didn't how was he able to easily control his body? Can't ghosts be kicked out if the hosts will is strong enough?
4.How is possessing his ghost half cause them to merge?
5. Also how did Vlad survive but human Danny didn't?
I'll try to answer these best I can
1. It can be said that the negative emotions are multiple as a half ghost throughout the show Danny is shown to get stronger with negative emotions. So a ghost half any negative emotions is higher than a regular person. Plan was probably to remove his ghost half temporary so the emotions Danny felt wasn't as intense and also Danny didn't do anything he would have regretted later on and later merge the two back.
2. I wouldn't say evil I believe his half is power by negative feelings. And as someone once said awhile ago the ghost half might of felt rejected by Danny because it was going through the same emotion but now was rejected by it's last person he was pushed to the edged and found safety in Vlad ghost emotions.
2. Yes they have actually at least Danny had for Vlad but I believe not as a ghost but his human half. Also it's based on intention if you don't plan to fuse it won't happen.
4. This is just me but I believe it is based on intent just as being able to fly or go through things. They would have to want it. Ofc they have to be powerful enough too as we saw Danny was overwhelmed by Vlads ghost half but Danny goal was just to fuse not really caring if it was him or Vlad
5. It is said Dark Danny wanted someone to tell his story of how he came to be. But to me it is a mixture of Vlad Ghost half not wanting to hurt him and Danny knowing that Vlad is the last person that could remember the family he lost. As for his human half after being rejected and blaming himself he couldn't and wouldn't forgive himself for being weak and his human half reflects that
I asked the same things and, while this was still a fantastic two-parter, wouldn't it have been smarter if Danny and Vlad's ghost halves ACTUALLY fused to make a whole new ghost that's much more powerful than both of them separately?
Like, they're both ghost halves, so merging them together should've made a DBZ fusion of the two that threatens everything and everyone.
Instead, Ghost Danny tried to posess Ghost Vlad, it backfired, Vlad's powers corrupted Danny and basically turned him evil, they treat Dark Danny as a darker reflection of the real Danny, and never once does Vlad's mannerisms or personality traits or even memories arise within Dark Danny.
It seems like Danny is still in control of dark Danny, but gains vlad's former sadisticness to a degree
@@omarbrown3760That threw me off when i first watched. This was the first time they treat the ghost "half" as a kind of separate persona like the Hulk right? I always saw the Danny Phantom transformation as just a powerup.
@@montecristosmith2343 yeah same never thought of him as a separate person and I figured it was the case for awhile but as he grew his ghost half did as will creating a more instinctive personality that only Danny human half unknowingly held back
Danny's new form in Ben 10/ Danny Phantom: 5YL reminds me a lot of Dark Danny!
I guess therapy & counseling aren't much of a go-to thing in this universe; like, why bother hiring someone to talk with Danny and help him through the grieving process when you can just do this lol
Well when you blame your ghost powers for what happened, it arguably seems logical to get rid of them
Considering the last counselor Danny went to wa spectra I can understand why the thought never crossed his mind
To be fair, I don't think Vlad or Danny had any idea it was even possible. They just thought it was a much faster solution than having to carry the pain forever.
More when all of that were consequences of Danny's choices Wich I find too realistic for this show like none told Danny to cheat on the exam yet he decided to do so anyway and instead of admitting he was wrong he blamed his powers instead
I’m going to assume that therapy and grief counseling wouldn’t help due him being human-ghost hybrid .This may have been one the few viable options for Danny .
Dan was originally supposed to return on the final episode and be the final villain
Okay, couple of questions: why did Danny’s ghost half attack Vlad, and why did he try to possess Vlad’s ghost half? These are random things that just happened out of nowhere.
The evil in Vlad’s ghost overwhelmed Danny’s ghost so that’s why human Danny was attacked but, the answer to your second question is idfk
I think the separation process went backwards. Danny wanted Vlad to take aways his emotions to stop grieving, but the split caused the ghost half to come out with no feeling.
So he was acting on self-preservation only, not caring the reason Vlad separated Danny from his ghost half.
So his ghost half acted on instinct?
@@jamesjo2048 I meant why did it attack Vlad. Sorry for not being specific.
@@stephenking5852From what I understand, the ghost Danny possessed all negative traits, including his animosity against Vlad.
So, Danny was never the culprit here at all. It was just one stupid mistake that kicked off a crazy chain of events that lead to a genuine humanitarian science experiment going horribly wrong. The kind of “wrong” that resulted in the ghost half of his supernatural essence gaining sentience, which then turned evil, killed it’s only mortal bond, and became the deadliest threat to humanity Amity Park and the Ghost Zone have ever faced. This show has a fair number of grim moments, but this episode by far takes the cake.
What I can’t quite figure out is who exactly was the real Danny. I always thought Vlad was trying to get rid of Danny’s powers by separating the ghost half from the human half. But now I don’t understand who the “real” Danny is. Is it the human side who wanted to make the pain go away, or is it the ghost side who embodied Danny’s pain altogether?
This should help. Tumblr user @Monotype-on-phantom has a fabulous post, from several years back, that goes into detail on how exactly they conceive of Danny’s being a human/ghost hybrid, on whether or not _Phantom_ in and of itself exists as an entirely seperate conscious entity.
monotype-on-phantom.tumblr.com/post/164286890341/yo-i-think-about-this-a-lot-but-where-dannys
Yeah before this storyline the ghost transformation seemed like just a boost in power and slight change in appearance but here they kinda make it seem like Danny and his ghost half are like Banner and the Hulk.
They’re both Danny😐 it’s not a hard concept to grasp One half he’s human, one half he’s a ghost they’re both real
@@montecristosmith2343that’s not a good comparison
@@yeetnessthegreater1298
That’s the superficial nature of the situation. What I’m trying to understand is which half represents Danny’s true self, not as both human and ghost, but as a person in either entity. His mind, body, and soul were obviously split in two, but which one of them is acting FOR Danny. Did “he” make the decision that turned him evil, or is “he” the normal 14-year-old boy the ghost half left behind? Plus, all that stuff Vlad said about “no more painful human emotions to drag you down” just make the grasping even less possible
Damn thats dark
So when you get right down to it, Dark Danny is basically an evil Garnet. 🤣
Pretty much.
The guy tried to possess Vlad, and somehow that caused Vlad to get absorbed instead of the other way around?
I'd get it if Ghost Danny tried to absorb Ghost Vlad, and it'd make the transformation make more sense but...nope.
I always think Dark Danny let Vlad Masters live because Vlad Plasmius didn’t want him dead. Vlad ghost half was the only thing he had in his life. Unlike Phantom who was betrayed and discarded by Danny.
Who's here after reading the new Danny Phantom comic?
Polymerization card activated, I fuse Danny Phantom and Vlad Plasmius together to form, Dark Danny, The Ultimate Enemy.
This is one of my favorite Danny Phantom episodes!
Bro this was so dark for a kids tv show holy shit
Never got over how dark this how special was it's a good one tho
I did wish Vlad was not made out to be a true villain in the series finale. He shoulve been more of an anti hero kind of figure. The Ultimate Enemy really shows Vlad's kind and caring side
Tragic story 😢.
Yeah Danny Phantom is my all time favorite show and part of my world
@@lunawolf6288 Mine, too.
@@ameliawarfield5637 :)
Same here
@@cochiefemeralds3616 Glad to hear that.
When you realize this, this WAS supposed to be the ORIGINAL timeline.
I still have this theory that danny never wanted this and vlad was doing an experiment on danny without his knowledge that went wrong and now he is telling a false story and merely helping again means redemption for that past deed.
This is one of the darkest villain origins I've ever seen!
I mean holy crap man.... best friends? Dead. Parents? Dead. THE MAIN CHARACTER? DEAD. Killed by HIMSELF.
I miss when Nickelodeon had balls
Danny Phantom was my favorite character on television and I loved it so much since when I was a kid. I wish they made more episodes of it because it was way better than SpongeBob and Fairy odd parents. I wish they would have made a crossover with Kim Possible and Ben 10 and My life as a Teenage Robot and Jake Long.
Basically he’s like Onslaught from Marvel comics
Also, The Maestro from Marvel Comics.
An evil and older version of the Hulk.
Defeated by his younger counterpart due to underestimating him.
@@f.dud4 🤔
1:24
Yes! Yes! Let the hate flow through you!
This reminds me of how vandal savage helped Superman to save earth
The funny/ironic thing about villians like that is once they finally get what they've wanted its never in a way that they expected. And then more often than not they have no idea what to do with themselves other than wither about in their regrets.
In Identity Crisis, Danny split his human and ghost halves using Fenton Ghost Catcher because he's sick of his responsibilities messing with his life, and he turned out fine.
This episode really taught us the real definition of "You your own worst enemy"
If I saw this as a kid I would have been traumatized
Dan Phantom is truly a vile villain in a saccharine show.
Real
This reminds me a lot of Zamasu and Black
Which makes no sense as to how it would. Probably because of the dark future setting
One of the greatest Nickelodeon shows
R.I.P voice actor Villain
judging by how damaged Danny looks...
Dark Danny might didn´t just killed him right away. But i guess "played" a little with him. And by how Vlad´s reaction... i guess, he heard Danny´s screams until it went silent, as Vlad escaped the mansion. And the last thing he saw, was the explosion and a devilsh laughter of Dark Danny.
I like this scene of Danny Phantom 😊🔥💯😻.
1:28 An infinite number of demons...released from the depths of Hell...
Me realizing I missed that part because I was so shocked at the time damn dude he actually killed his human self...
I Actually Was Shocked When Vlad Mentioned that "Some things My Boy Are better left unsaid" Stating that Vlad really Doesn't want to Talk about What happened. And After What he just witnessed, I don't Blame him.
Macabre to think that because of his negative emotions, Danny's ghost side became evil, separated from its bearer and even killed him, macabre and heavy if you think about it. Furthermore Vlad changed in this timeline After this tragedy and trying to help someone grieving and traumatized, this created a threat to the multiverse
In terms of character writing , Season 3 was downright terrible.They really had their best choice with Vlad.Vlad's easily the best Danny Phantom character and one of the best and most well written characters in cartoons in general.And when i mean to develop his character more , no i don't mean have him hook up with Maddie and all , no , i wouldn't even think of giving Danny some thorough divorce especially in his 14s.What i mean is that we deserved to be seen Vlad overcoming his infatuation with Maddie and evolve into a healthier individual.Stuff like that exist in real life too and in terms of adults they have to be strong and overcome them , i'm not saying it won't be hard but it's easier for an adult to overcome any infatuation than a teen in general.And the show needed to go there.Like just with that it would point at the younger audience that yes , love is beautiful but it also hurts a lot in some cases and still , you shouldn't sacrifice your health and well-being because of it.Danny and Vlad deserved a healthy relationship with each other , one where both of them would always come to each other's side if they needed each other.I'll talk aboit Jack later.Also you may not have thought of this before but Vlad's influence in the show is even deeper than you think.At his school Danny is surrounded by a whole crowd of priviledged teenagers in terms of money that none of them ever thinks that maybe he or she should use his or her priviledges to achieve something great and challenge themselves , they just take them for granted and use them daily in their lives thinking they'll be living a life of comfort.Within the exception of Vlad that became rich because he , unlike them , knew how to use his wit , his knowledge and all to get to where he is today.Then comes Valerie the only one of these individuals we are seen that is always on top of Mr.Lancer's class and is rich and all but likewise with Vlad devotes a great amount of time for future plans and to use her priviledges to upscale herself in the world and become successful , she uses her priviledges to their maximum potential showing no passion for stopping and taking them for granted.Do you see it?The show could also transmit the message that "If you're born with priviledges compared to other people , first of all you don't know at all how lucky you are , don't ever lay them to rest and use them to their maximum potential , you can achieve great things!".But at the final season?No.The show subtly tells you all priviledged people are douches and the unpriviledged are always right no matter what , they are always suffering etc.
Season 3 of Danny Phantom was a complete letdown comprised of wasted potential and missed opportunities.Hell , they even made Jack a bigger idiot than the one he was.Allow me to say that yes , we needed the realization of what he did to Vlad and the imminent apology.But what?Jack literally mutated his best friend by accident after being told he had a ton of miscalculations , after being told he should be the last guy toying with ghosts and stuff , Vlad confessing that because of his whole time in rehab Jack was free to steal the love of his life and after all of that , Jack drops "I'm sorry , really sorry"?That must have been like the most apathetic apology i've seen in cartoons.Sometimes i actually hated how Jack was so stupid but still managed to get away with everything because he has Ultimate Luck.
RIP Vlad Masters (the VA)
The amount of screwed up stuff i saw as a kid and completely forgot about is crazy
With all the money Vald had he could have just sent Danny to therapy and avoided all of this.
This was by far the coolest cartoon event in my childhood
Ikr
Well for those who’s saying why Danny’s ghost half was evil because he was fused with vlads evil half and he was mad that Danny removed him from his human half
The one thing they never explained in this episode is how Sam, Tucker, Jazz, Jack, Maddie, and Mr Lancer ended up strapped to the boiler in the first place , who the hell was Danny fighting? How did his friends, family, and teacher end up in the middle of it?? How did he end up using so much energy that he wasn’t able to save them?
I still don't get it. What does 0:43 [no painful emotions] have to do with 0:53 [human/ghost splitting] and 0:59 [malevolence]? No painful emotions would imply (as far as I'm aware) uninterested and unemotional, not particularly vicious and outraged. Besides, I wouldn't say humans and ghosts (within Danny Phantom, of course) are equivalent or connected to emotions.
Some people say that Danny's separated ghost-half is the form of his negative emotions, like self-anger, regret, and mourn, but that's impossible. The ghost that came out doesn't care about anyone; he has no love or respect, so he wouldn't mourn his loved ones and blame himself.
Maybe it'd be best to explain in alphabetical or numerical order (preferably vertically), to help me understand and catch on. The theories they've told me can be very long, confusing, and cluttered.
(Based off what I know)
I'm pretty Vlad was wrong. He ASSUMED Danny's ghost half wouldn't have any emotions but this is kinda like when Danny was split into two that one time. His ghost still had emotions as well as his human half. Point it, emotions dwell with everyone. Ghosts and humans. I assume ghost danny, at the time, was full of anger, grief and pain, which in turn led him to take it out on vlad, whom he's been fighting for a while.
Afte reading the new comic, a few things make much more sense
@@dweebtastic5931 Well, remember, I said it was impossible the ghost is the form of his negative emotions, like self-anger, regret, and mourn, because he doesn't care about anyone and wouldn't mourn his loved ones and blame himself. You said "I assume ghost danny, at the time, was full of anger, grief and pain"
@jakebastian6726 self-anger, regret, and mourn
Ghost danny probably directed this at vlad. His mind probably wasn't clear (since splitting yourself like this never means something good or will happen smoothly). Ghost danny directed his emotions at Vlad, since he was standing over him with the Ghost gauntlets. Granted Danny should have known the reason why, but with fighting Vlad all this time, Ghost danny probably thought vlad had some ulterior motive
@@dweebtastic5931Ooh, what comic? 😯
@@stephenking5852
_Danny Phantom: A Glitch in Time._ It's a comic book that was released earlier this year and is a continuation of the series taking place immediately after the events of _Phantom Planet_ and sees the return of Vlad and Dark Danny.