GROENENDAEL BELGIAN SHEEPDOG ALL ABOUT HERDING
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The Belgian Sheepdog also known as the Groenendael, is a, ancient and versatile herding dog. The breed originating in Belgium is a traditional herding dog that has 4 varieties, The Groenendael, Malinois, Tervuren, and Laekenois.
Peggy Richter is a Belgian Sheepdog fancier that trains and conditions her dogs at On The Lamb Ranch, in Camarillo, Ca. In this video Peggy runs down everything about Groenendaels from the breeds history, health, and working ability.
this channel is underrated. its like dogs 101 on steroids.
PLEASE do an all about living with the Belgian sheepdog! I know they’re technically the same breed as the Malinois but after talking to a few Groenendael owners I’ve learned that the 4 Belgian Shepherd types are a bit different in temperament and energy level, etc
I recently adopted a five yr male and 3yr female (both AKC registered, rescued from a horrifffic dangerous hoarding situation.) and I would say they are very different. So much more chill. They do not snap. I am going to meet the other 17 that were locked in this house, but I hear they are also so far scared but sweet. So for a situation where they were living in scarcity and against eachother they are unbelievably docile. Different than mals. But I hear long haired German shepherds are usually more laid back than short hairs. They are so beautiful, and sensitive. Better for herding and work than protection I would say (especially their frame).
Had a Groenendal for more than 13 years. She was the best dog ! I feel much love when I watch the Dogs in the Video. I really miss her. She travelled whith me and my son through Europe, always protective and by our side. We had much Fun going by Bike. She did run at the Trottoir me in the street and she just looked if I still agree. We had telepathic connection.
I’ve had two Tervs and I’m on my third black dog.
I can’t imagine my home without at least one.
I grew up in the 1970's and we got a 1 year old female Belgiun Groenendael Sheepdog we called Renee. Renee was the best dog I ever owned. Smart, loved people, an amazing guard dog. I highly recommend them, They have a great nature and their fur does not smell. They only shed a tiny bit and are remarkably clean dogs. The biggest mistake we made with Renee was not giving her stuff to do...training her to fetch, jump around and through stuff, and tricks was what these dogs love. As a result Renee put on weight and died at only age 12.
I hope that we can keep on protecting Groenendaels and Tervurens; I would hate to see them being overbred like the German shepherd and Malinois. They are way to gorgeous and adorable to end up in shelters.
I've just adopted a Belgian shepherd Groenendael that was rescued from Spain. She was terribly sick with heart worm, but now she's healthy and the sweetest dog I've ever owned. She's by my side constantly, and responds to training like a star student. Unfortunately she hates other dogs, so our numerous daily walks are off the beaten track, which she loves.
What a wonderful and beautiful breed.
I could listen to Peggy all day long.
Her love of , and her deep knowledge of these dogs is simply amazing and infectious.
I wish you rainbows Peggy.
I had a Belgian that lived to 17. My husband uses a wheelchair and he was quite perfect as a companion for us. They are lovely dogs and fairly hard to find.
My belgian is 10, this makes me happy I could still have 7 more.
I've chosen to dedicate my life to this breed. Currently on waiting list for my second groenendael. I have to say that you chose a very good owner represent the breed, I agree with every word.
Just inherited a senior. He is 8 yrs old and such a great dog....
Belgian sheepdogs and belgian tervurens are awesome dogs.
Me and our Groenendael enjoyed this very much from under the duvet on the bed, she's a bit of a princess!
😂😂😂Princess Groeni
I had a gray groenendael. Best dog I have ever had. She died of cancer a week ago, but she was loyal and playful until the day she died. Everyone should experience this dog once in their life. They are so loving, will follow you everywhere, wants to be by your side all the time. The way she described the breed was good :) So energetic but can also be calm, but the second something happens they are up and going in a second! They are also kind with children. I would recommend a groenendael or a tervueren if you want a companion dog.
Do ypu know if they would be good on trails with horses? I want a dog that can walk along with us on rides. I worry that he/she would overheat. I would also take the dog to work daily so i need an animal that would be calm with older adults.
@@0316asdfjkl They fit the description. My terv is really calm inside and blow off steam once he gets to play outside. Very intelligent dog, very sensitive, and can interact with any kind of pet if used to it (like any dog).
They won’t over heat cause their fur will adapt depending on the weather. If you prefer a short haired sheperd dog anyway (still with a calm temper), the smooth collie might be for you.
You’ll have to socialize your Belgian shepherd A LOT though, cause some can be skittish
"I'll be your partner; not your servant" Perfect lady...
Belgian sheepdog are the best dog in the world !
These dogs are just beautiful. And I love that people like Peggy are a wealth of info about them, and others.
I adopted one from Crete. What an amazing dog she is. So loving
I've had one of these dogs for almost 12 years now, couldnt imagine my life without her
Best dog I've ever had. Lovey dedicated nature. Will be loyal to the end 🐾
Peggy was a good choice for knowledge on this breed. And I appreciate her honesty in the limitations on the stock they can handle. They simply aren't the popular choice for people breeding for everyman working dogs to handle harder stock. Curs, border collies, kelpies, and others are being bred more commonly for harder temperaments to move tough cattle and even harder rams. Most people who try any tending style herding with these guys, are hobbyists or very small boutique farmers.
Groenies in the USA at least, are mostly found in the show set and the temperament has been softened to a large degree. Look out for very spooky dogs. It's far too common.
There ARE people dedicated to reviving harder working ability in this type, so that it's not just the malinois doing well. Peggy's website has some links to get folks started. A GOOD Belgian with a solid temperament can be a real treasure.
can agree regarding cattle, but I've yet to see a ram back down any of my dogs. As for tending, used to do this regularly with my Nyjel to save buying hay. they just weren't bred for low heel and aren't "range cattle" dogs. OTOH, not too many kelpies, BCs etc that will herd your sheep and deal summarily with anyone trying to steal them or mug you.
Very true. BCs and kelpies are supposed to be bred to be very human friendly. I've heard of the odd kelpie defending it's owner, but it's not the norm or the intention behind that breed. Belgians are more multi purpose while BCs and kelpies are specialists.
I am in love with these dogs (Tervuren mostly), but am concerned about the exercise requirements (something that people over here in Sweden tend to exaggerate in any dog). Would a Belgian be fine with two proper walks per day, small brain exercises like food search, and some obedience/freestyle training, or are they just too much dog?
I think that nervous disposition is becoming more frequent in all shepherd breeds, not good, but I do tend to wonder if it's genetics or inbreeding , I know that sounds a stupid way to phrase it, I can't think how to put it better sorry, hope you get what I mean. Beautiful dogs, iam a traditional square back GSD owner.i prefer that square back to the slope which these dogs never show. Beautiful ...
Thanks for this informative video. I’ve only had two of these Belgian Groenendaels but I can’t imagine a smarter more interesting dog to have.
I have a Belgian Sheepdog/German Shepherd mix. Very intelligent, great drive and loves to please. He is excelling in Search and Rescue right now and my sponsor loves everything about him.
She was 100% right that these dogs definitely need jobs!!
Best dog I've ever had!
I've been considering getting a Groenendael. Are they really that much more energetic than german shepherds?
Me too. Unfortunately mine passed in May after only a year an a half. She ate some plastic bag that hurt her intestines and a day after surgery had a heart attack. I was so devastated , she was the most loving and genuine dog I have ever been around. I miss her every day.
We lost our best friend and beloved Groenendael Charlie. He was a rescue dog and very very smart and easy to train. They are absolutely amazing dogs and you'll never go wrong with it as compared to a German Shepherd. They love anything that you do. We just purchased another male we were so heart broken in losing Charlie. Bear was house broken in 1 week and after 3 weeks he's learned to sit, stay, down and fetch, drop, leash trained and more. I am amazed at how much he has learned in such a short time. What a fantastic experience. I am also disabled and he will be trained as a service dog. He's a great companion for me already. I'm smiling 😊
@@elitemarketerclub I had the same experience as you at about the same time. We just purchased another one and he is amazing. See my post on this thread.
@@nuur2825 I've also been considering getting one but i cant bring it out for most of the day, idk what they mean by work. how much excercise does it need daily minimum?
Very informative, thanks. Beautiful dogs. I love that they have a natural straight back, not sloped like a lot of German shepards, which is not only cruel but ugly.
Dogs are just beautiful creatures.
Always great Dogumentaries, fantastic filming and info always interesting! Happy New year!
Happy NewYear!
Very nice video about the Groenendael Belgian sheepdog, thank you ! Peggy Richter said two phrases that particularly struck me : "They are the average workman's dog, they can pull a full day but they do as much or as little, as long as it's with you" and "I wanna be your partner, I'm not your servant" So true for Tervuren as well
Getting my puppy September 22 and I cannot wait! Great documentary
How is your dog?
How is your Groenendael doing?
@@littleprincess8526 He unfortunately broke his leg in August 2020 after getting out from the backyard and after many surgeries and 2 years of stress we ultimately had to have it amputated 2 months ago. So unfortunately he only has 3 legs now but he is the same dog and adapted very quickly. I just recently started taking him on light jogs and east trails and he is still happy and loving life!
@@ECalland oww that's so sad. Please take good care of him, they are such a loving dogs.
Lovely trot that dog has👍♥️❤️🌹
Great summary and a complete description of my Belgian Sheepdog, Smokey!! Very very great companion and headstrong!! Also , the " needs a job" description is something I felt from day 1 ... cant say enough good about Smokey!! Btw ..he came from a shelter !!
I have waiting for this for a long time!
Leo&marius , Me too!
Leo&marius same!
Do more on the Belgian sheepdog !! Great work
That was a great video!
I had a Groenendael mix for just short of eleven years. The other breed that got in there was a mystery; I never bothered to get Kira DNA tested. But she did fine in an apartment, including when I went off to work. She was around 75 - 80 lbs., and had a rounded head, but otherwise looked like a Belgian Sheepdog. I wonder if she might have been part Newfoundland.
We did walk a LOT. I trained her to jump through a hoop to earn her dinner, which she would also do for fun. She managed to donate 36 units of blood at Dove Lewis. (If you search for "dog blood donation" you'll find a video of Kira giving a unit.)
Why named it Kira? Possible death note fan?
I love my belgain.
You are fortunate to be able to work your dog in herding. It's too bad that some trainers do not give dogs of other breeds a chance to prove themselves before they are rejected but it worked out well for you. Thanks for posting.
Beautiful dogs! Great to see them in action! Nice video!!
Thank you!!!* My Belgian Sheepdog rescue is a perfect match with Peggy's description. Super "partner" dog, smart, protective, independent, but needs a lot of attention and exercise. Not recommended unless you can spend a lot of time with your Groendael. Our 4 pound shelter pup grew to a trim 66 lbs, with very high energy and focus. She loves people but barks at/ chases all other animals instinctively - birds, squirrels, coyotes, black bears, insects, dogs and cats.
*Dogumentary TV - Great historical and health info. Recommendation - this video would be even better if all the spelling errors were corrected. Especially "herding" and not "hurting".
And Mal away instead of Malinois
At last! Thank you sir!! Good job!! Quality docu as always!!
Love any Herding dogs! Love all breeds!!
I want this dog so bad to love and to train!!
You will not regret it I promise.
Great to see a good doc on Belgian shepherds 😊 It's hard to educate on such uncommon dogs. Too bad it isn't on tervs and Laeks too
Thank you for a greath resume of this wonderful breed
I had the pleasure of sharing part of my life with Groenendael/ Newfoundland cross. He was considerably bigger than the G side of his mix. Everything said about temperament and behaviour was exactly him. As a gardener I took him with me to work. He would be happy to stay in the vehicle with the rear hatch open as long as he could see me. I have had meny dogs but he was second to only one.
I don’t even refer to mine as a “Belgian Sheepdog” anymore. She’s a Belgian Shepherd Groenendael. None of this ridiculous AKC varieties are breeds. I follow the standards and expectations for breeding of their country of origin. My Groenendael is half Terv on both sides and has a Mal great grandsire.
I agree ,I hate the kennel club ideas of what's right in a dog, they appear to go on what one or 2 ppl would consider a good looking dog, rather than health and looks and what chars statistics they could produce down the line. They are all about looks alone which is so wrong . Too many breeds having way too many health issues. The money is too important these days , so inbreeding becoming a huge deal, I hope they keep his breed as natural as possible . Stunning dog.
Hey, Dragon_Slayer6753!
Where did you get your girl from? I'd love to know more about that process!
I don't understand why they are called sheepdogs in the US. They are Groenendaels. It's an insult as I am Belgian from Groenendael, and they are our dogs. So they should be called the right way.
@@littleprincess8526 it is irritating I agree. People expect a Belgian to look like an English Sheepdog
Make me miss my aunts Belgian dog named bear. She took him every where, he was a great hiking dog and camping dog.
Had a Belgian/German Shepherd for 8 wonderful years. He was so incredibly intelligent, loyal, protective & my best boy. Hope to have another one someday.
They move and look almost wolfish.
I find it really appealing personally for a dog you can actually own
Best dog I've ever owned...her name is Rogue and she's a total badass
Yes Thank You!
I had no idea that Belgium Sheepdogs were the premiere police dog, I always assumed that German Shepherds originally filled that role so this was very enlightening for me. Perfect start to the new year. Thank you for everything Dogumentary TV! P.S, I sat through a 5-minute advertisement for SHEN YUN, you're welcome!
Lol. Good looking out.:)
oh ok
Try telling that bullshit to Working German Shepherds and Dutch Shepherds enthusiasts.
Nice display of the breed, thank you.
We used them and German Shepherds on our cattle ranch, we replaced border collies for two reasons, first the collies were nuts and often into mischief when not working and we lost some to predators, never lost the Shepherds to predators.
Madam is just so knowledgeable. Great video. Thanks for the insight!
She knows a great deal. Believe me people that actually "work" the dogs really understand their behavior.
WOW! That was informative..BEST seen or read as FIRST hand expereince. TKU
Can you do a dogumentary on the black flat coat retriever, including origins? There is a bit of conflicting info out there.
Duane Beebe I agree, I have a belgian Shepherd and black flat coated retriever. Seeing this comment just light up my day!
Could you do a video about the Portuguse Mountain/Guard dogs, for example the Pastor da Serra da Estrela and others.
more on the Belgian Sheepdog!
❤I hawe 2 Gronendel shipdog. 🥰🥰 They are wonderful ❣️
Wow, what an outfit they have got there! Great work again Zeke!
What about the Schipperke ? The Groenendael and Schipperke both originated from the Leuvenaar, a now extinct 40-pound dog often found in the Louvain region of Belgium and employed to guard flocks and transport. It is said that the Leuvenaar was bread larger to create the Gronendael and smaller to create the Schipperke.
Please make a video all about living with a mudi! Or, all about living with a croatian sheepdog?
Leo&marius IVE NEVER HEARD SOMEONE TALK ABOUT MUDI I LOVE YOU
Do a video with the TERVUEREN too 😍
Ronja it’s all the same tbh. Or at least they should be the same as all the Belgian Shepherd varieties EXCEPT in coat.
do a standard schnauzer vid plz!
Thank you very much for this documentary!
Having an own groenendael is up in my mind since childhood.. I'm raised with a German sheepdogs and a rough collie..
I did a lots of research and now the only thing, what really majes me insecure to get one soon is, that they are susceptible to epilepsy and other neurological disease..
that scares me..
Is there anyone her, to share honest experiences with his groenendael?
lots of greets from Germany
My Mali is a raw fed freak of nature. Her job is PTSD/Seizure Alert K9. She is 94 lbs of pure high octane. Loyal, intelligent and quite protective..
More of this breed
such a beautiful stride
nice document 📝
Nice 👌
the netherlands and belgium aka the lowlands produce the best dogs💪👍🇱🇺
I am from belgium
I gotta get another.
You should do a video on Ca de Bou. If you can find one. I've lived with one for almost eight years now, the first puppy I raised myself, and there are about 50 of them here in Sweden but not many more (possibly fewer) in the United States.
Also Chow Chow. They are really good guard dogs, and seem underrated and misrepresented, thought of as a "mean" dog just meant for show.
I have one that looks just like this one here black eyes as well
They don't need to have a job and most people owning them aren't gonna be farmers. They need a lot of exercise and that's it.
Do a documentary on Tervuren
I would love to have one of these dogs if possible when I am able to learn to look after dogs along with other animals as pets. They remind me of Sirius Black from Harry potter when he was in his animagus form.
I feel her, a lot of schutzhund clubs don't want anything other then german shepherds and mals involved. Even if you just wanna hobby at their club they just don't want any other breed near their club.
Most people don't even see the difference between a Tervuren and a German shepherd. A lot think that the Groenendael is a black German shepherd. My neighbors thought they had a German shepherd and it was a Tervuren. All these dogs including the Dutch shepherd all come from the same ancestors. They are basically the same. High energy, highly intelligent, needs lots of training, playtime mental stimulation.
Nice job
Mals,bels & dutchies. That’s a bloody good gene pool
Jake Mals are the same thing as other Belgian Shepherd varieties. Only differ in coat
@@wholesome122 Totally not they are very different. Groenendaels are real family pets and they can be highly energetic but cuddle bears indoor, while Malinois don't have an off switch. Even inside they love to be buzy. If they get bored they tear your house down. A Groenendael or Tervuren would never do that.
please do a video on irish terriers I can't find 1 anywhere😂
Please do a video about living with borzois!
Beautiful dog... I know that the Malinois is more inclined for home protection but wondered if the belgian sheep dog could also work as a home protection dog?
They’re smart enough, and willing to serve but they aren’t as inclined to aggression and are fairly lightweight they’re bite wouldn’t be desirable for home protection
I have Belgian sheep dog , I'm from India , part of Tamil madu
If anyone lives in California I would like to have one of these puppies ❤
how much exercise would you guys say this dog would need on a daily basis. i am looking for a versatile farm dog.
if you have cow horses, about the same.
Can you do a dogumentary about Dalmatians?
Could someone please elaborate on the differences in temperament between the Groenendael and Malinois?
Frida In my experience Groenendaels tend to be far more mellow than Malinois. Mals are intense dogs and have very strong working drives; they’re always “on”. Groenendaels are smart and need to be exercised, but they’re a bit easier to get to chill out.
Huge difference. Malinous are bred for high intensity. Would not have around toddlers. As always dogs temperament is up to the breeders.
I was wondering if you can do a update or another interview with Belgians
Looks like a wolf wow
Yes, but they can be incredibly sweet and gentle.
No they dont. Wolves have longer legs, a wide face, smaller ears, and a less curvy, more “trunk” like body.
@@cannedcrickets9932 There are many types of wolves. European wolves are short-legged and barrel-chested compared to the lanky North American wolves. Ear size and coat type vary widely too. Just compare a Mexican wolf to an Arctic and an Indian.
Frida ....We have a subspecies of wolf that is fairly abundant where we live on Vancouver Island, Canada. There are estimated to be
close to 250 of them, they weigh roughly 60 lbs. with coat colours of gray, brown, black, and white.
Dogumentary TV when can we expect a video on the Alaskan Malamute
You should do a documentary based on Berger Blanc Suisse.
Can you do a video on Briard dogs, Dachshunds, and Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers?
working line dutch shepherd!
Would love to see some sighthound videos!
Belgium is more than twice the size of LA county
How are they in colder climates ????
They are fine with the cold but they want to be with you always wherever you go. We live in the pacific northwest and get up to 7 feet of snow and our dogs love it!
keep working guys
Can I focus their training in tricks? I rescued to stray siblings but I’m from the city.