How to Pick YOUR Best Flight School
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2019
- How to pick a flight school is one of the most stressful parts of how to be a pilot. In this video, I cover the 5 flight school tips to consider when you are trying to pick the right one for you…
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Beers?
Lets drink everclear so that we may actually get something from this experience (other than flight school knowledge)
I toured 3 flights school and I really felt comfortable at one so I’m going for a demo flight in a week
hows it going?
Please could you tell the flight school you choose...I'm really confused on which to choose as am looking to start next month
How’s it going, man?
Kelsey, I must say your choice of clips that you insert every now and then is too good, cracks me up everytime! :D
Your enthusiasm for the job is refreshing!
Kelsey: Thanks for delineating everything that is in your video. The depth and breadth of this topic is endless, yet, you put together the crucial points. Keep up your great job!
Thanks Amr... ya its a tough one because its so complex
I used almost that exact list when I picked my flight school :D It's a little bit of a longer drive but because of the condition of the airport and planes, student to instructor/aircraft ratio, cost and friendliness of staff I chose to add that extra 20 min each way to go for flight lessons. I love the staff and get along with everyone and from my first visit doing a discovery flight I knew I had found my school.
What school
Very good videos Kelsey. Learned a lot! Thx
I’ve been watching your videos and noticed the ones for student pilots. I’m planning on getting a PPL. I did a discovery flight years ago and am planning on starting flight school in Yohe next year. I’m in McKinney just north of Dallas. I’ve located a few flight schools or CFIs and will see if I can do a discovery flight with each to help with my decision. I’m glad to hear that I can count that flight time. Thanks for the video.
Thank you so much for uploading such videos . They are so helpful .
happy to help Fleur... let me know if you have any questions!
Love it, thank you. Everytime I watch your videos, I plan out my career in the Avaition world.
glad its helpful Abubakarr!!
Same Abubakarr
Hey Kelsey, I’m a big fan of your channel and just want to say thank you for all the information and knowledge you provide. I’m going to be starting my PPL training in May 2024 out of Tampa and I’m looking forward to taking it all the way to the airlines. I really enjoy your videos and appreciate it. Take care.
The best video I have seen so far! I live in Canada but these steps are definitely gonna help me 😍Thank you.
happy to hear it Nitu, thanks for watching and subscribing.
Great video on right time . Thank you very much. By the way love the new intro and editing. Happy to see your channel growing .😊
thanks Larance... I appreciate it, ya we are slowly growing hopefully people keep sharing it!
great information 👍 learning so much
Thanks Jay, I appreciate it!
Awesome video as always! Helped me a lot as well, keep up the good work😊
Thanks Alpha, glad I could be of service to help answer some questions!
Right on time boss. Getting ready to follow! Thanx
thanks bizi, have fun in flight school thanks for joining the 74 crew!
74 Gear I know I will definitely have fun because I am coming from the bottom ( currently a third world country) and was waiting for this my whole life so I moved to US just to get enough money to start my career. Thank you for your awesome and very helpful videos. Really appreciated. Keep up the good work!
The is excellent advice about any school or training program.
I’m currently attending Minnesota State University, Mankato for aviation. It’s a part 141 program, and I love it! Highly recommend going to visit and doing an intro flight if you’re in the Midwest area, and want to see what aviation has to offer!
awesome Alex, I am glad you found a good fit for you thanks subscribing and for being part of the 74 crew
Brilliant speech
I went to a small part 61 school 5 aircraft 4 instructors and no more than two students to an instructor, it worked great. The mechanics were available for questions and aircraft log books were open to any student to look through. A school with low overhead cost, and transparent maintenance procedures was what i looked for so i wouldnt be a cash cow to keep the lights on in the school and strung along to build some instructors flight time to fast track them to the airlines. I did my ppl checkride at 40.1 hours. Just some things to consider when looking for a flight school.
K, Always great Vid's, Thanks for taking the time to post it, be safe
thanks Mile, appreciate it as always!
I’m addicted to your videos bud!!! Really enjoy them. I’ve been around aviation for almost 7 years now as arff and snow removal, painting, lights blah blah. Anyways what I’m getting at I guess is I want to start flying and the schooling for me will most likely be in anchorage. Do you think flying in during the snow storms early on would give me a advantage later on down the road? I don’t personally know any jet pilots to ask 😀
You the best. I’ll do my PPL checkride soon. From now I thinking to find another flight school for my IR.
Thank for the help
You're so helpful! Thank you you Kelly!
Sure JT, glad I could be of help !
@@74gear oops autocorrect. I meant Kelsey not Kelly
Haha. I am, actually in Dallas, and, currently looking trying to choose a school. a lot of things to think about before making a decision. I will use some of your tips to help make my final decision. Thank you Kelsey.
Where did you end up going? I'm in Arlington, trying to figure out where I want go go
Love your videos! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Paul, glad you like them, thanks for subscribing!
@@74gear Just started my PPL, so I have enjoyed hearing what you've had to say about learning to fly!
very cool thats part of the reason I am making the videos, happy to help!
Awesome video learned a lot
good RC, if you ever have questions just let me know
One thing to consider with location is time of year. Portland, OR sounds like a bad place to learn but late spring, summer, and early fall is usually ideal for flying. It's usually clear skies and almost no precipitation. They also rarely get thunderstorms
Very informative. Thanks a lot. Hope you get more subscribers 😉
slowly growing eventually we will have a big channel I think!
Great tips! I can't believe this advice is free lmao. Honestly, though, the hardest thing for me when looking for flight schools was finding the cost for the actual training. For me what I found was some flight schools really don't have much transparency when talking about cost. I'm not sure if it is because it varies so much but it sure made the process sketchy for me🤷🏾♂️
ya I would just get them on the phone and get the prices per hour for the plane and instructor, it shouldn't be a secret.
Your point about costs is on point, but remember when they quote you a price for a certificate or rating, they're quoting the price for the minimum number of hours they can conduct the course in. Many people fly more than the minimum to obtain a given certificate or rating. If you know what the minimum number of hours is for a program (and the rate or rates per hour), you need to also ask how many hours on average students are taking to complete that course.
This kind of pricing gets really egregious in type rating schools (probably not your current focus, but keep it in the back of your mind). You can see advertisements that say get your B-737 rating for $8995 or some such number (that's low), but that's a minimum time curriculum that presumes you're proficient in basic turbojet flying when you walk in the door. Some people can complete it within the program and some people can't.
Just some thoughts. I wish you the best in your aviation career! Fly safe!
@@HEDGE1011 i live in louisiana I seen one training school for commerical airlines in Dallas tx which is about a 3 hour drive is that duable as far as distance and tuition with out experience is like 80,000 does that sound accurate
Incredible how after 1 year the video has more than 1k likes and only 6 dislikes, obviously because the videos are clear and simple. Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
I live in Minnesota, there's a lot of flight school here. I really didn't know what to school to pick at all. This video helped me a lot. My two option was ATP Flight School and Inflight Pilot Training. I don't know which one to pick.
Great video, I got my PPL at a small flight school in my hometown and transferred to a large aviation university because I bought into the idea that it was objectively the best way to go. After two semesters I am going back home to continue my flight training and do online school. I have learned a lot while being here but it is more expensive and I would much rather be home and save the money. It really is hard to make the decision on where to train. I suggest keeping your options open. You may go somewhere and realize it isn't the right choice and that is okay.
thanks for sharing your story Samuel, ya its a complex subject for sure thats why it took a while to make the video to figure out how to address it.
@@74gear I think you did a good job. People want someone to tell them what the absolute best way to do it is but that's just not possible because every situation is different. Ultimately you just have to be proactive and go out to do it and find out for yourself.
Another thing to that could help us national recognition. Like the AOPA flight training excellence award winners. My school, Jetexe in Sacramento got the award in 2015.
Thanks for including the part about using the G.I. Bill. I'm currently getting out of the military and just got my acceptance to Embry Riddle for the fall. As for using the G.I. Bill for part 141 schools, the G.I. Bill will cover the college portion, however for the flight school portion, you still will have to pay out of pocket. At least that's what I'm going to have to do at ERAU.
Embry Riddle? Good school. What campus? Florida or Arizona?
Awesome been waiting on this!!
great Alexis, hopefully its helpful for you to keep laying out your plans!
I really appreciate everything you've shared. I'm old and established in my career, and just going for my PPL. For those of us not lucky enough to get free ground school from our schools, any suggestions or warnings about various online ground schools?
Appreciate the 4k video and audio upgrade!
trying to slowly improve the quality, thanks Mukhund!
My son chose Thrust Flight in Addison TX. Their zero time to airline program is full time, 6 days a week, 10ish months or so. First class medical is still processing. March ‘24 is the last class of the old tuition… 99,000 plus 6,500 for multi. Now is 105k plus a grand or two on that multi with 10k down. They have 24+ planes all 2020 or newer, a GameBird, and a full motion RedBird. I call it a good value because 1. He can still live at home which saves $850/mo or more on campus housing 2. It’s still half the price of Embry Riddle’s Daytona campus considering he’d leave with two degrees. 3. A fire station is next to the airport so I can trust a rapid response if resources are ever needed (the medic in me thinks like this!)
Great info needed this, thanks Kelsey ! I am going to apply for academy of aviation in farmingdale, Ny. I believe that’s a great school.
awesome Avi, glad you have one selected thanks for watching and being part of the 74 crew!
Any updates on the school?
Cool video. I'm learning to fly at Sibson Aerodrome in the UK, it's twenty minutes from my house and all of the instructors are knowledgeable and experienced, plus extremely friendly and easy to learn from. It was an easy choice in my case but I'm going about getting my PPL and CPL all completely self funded and part by part. Whilst it may take me longer I believe I'll get more experience this way so ultimately it'll make me a better pilot in the long run. Thanks for the video. John
fantastic John, if you are happy and you are learning that's the most important thing. If you ever have questions please let me know! Thanks for subscribing and being part of the 74 crew!
@@74gear I will. Thanks! 😀
@74, thank you for mentioning current #GIBill situation!
Another awesome vid Super K! Hope I get to buy u a beer someday.
Thanks Rob I appreciate it. Thanks for being part of the 74 crew!
Love your videos!!!!!!
thanks dragon, glad you enjoy it! thanks for watching.
@@74gear your welcome, these videos are quite a powerful inspiration, i may only be 13 (3 days away from 14) but i already have the ambition to be a pilot, and i cant wait to give it a shot! :D
well I will wish you a happy 14th birthday today then Dragon, thanks for being part of the 74 crew!
@@74gear thank you very much, and i'm happy yo be here, a part of this amazing community you created
I looked at Cessna, and Piper. Cessna had beat up planes, was 1/3 more expensive, the lesson materials were a hodge podge, some were even mimeograph. Piper had a better trainer, and got a new one during my lessons. I got to be the first student to fly it. The lesson materials were integrated, uniform in apperance, and came in a nice blue vinyl pouch. The difference was like the difference of a greasy spoon diner, and a burger king. I chose piper.
Hi Kelsey, I really appreciate your videos! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us! I was wondering what your thoughts are on ATP flight school. Have you heard any good things about them? Thank you!
Choosing a flight school this summer! Starting my research. Price is a big factor for me and my budget is tight. If anyone has advice on striking a balance between good training and cost I’d appreciate that. Thanks for this helpful video!
Hi Kelsey, my fear of heights has gotten worse in the last couple of years. I have not flown since 2017. I’ve got a flight scheduled in February. Hopefully I can overcome my fear of heights again. I feel when I don’t fly for a while the fear comes back. I’ve recently gotten energized about becoming a pilot from your videos. A career in aviation sounds so fun and adventurous. I’ve been taking a look at flight schools here in Austin Texas. I found a couple. I would only be available for flight school on Saturdays and Sundays. Do you have any recommendations on schools here?
Timestamp 3:46 Hello Kelsey;
There is a glitch in this video, this glitch might be happening because of a high CPU usage, that ur pc is skipping frames, or more likely there is a problem with a surge at ur hotel.
But ask your editor he should know how to avoid this glitch in the future.
Otherwise, your cinematography is always good your audio is good and your editing is sharp (It's a little hard but ok) I have been watching a lot of your video.
Always interesting topics and the host is very easy on the eyes !
All the best Shaun of NYC
I am just starting my training on ppl. I am learning a lot from your chanel
thanks Betty glad you are enjoying it and thanks for being part of the 74 crew!!
Try Huffman Aviation. I learned to fly at the school and eventually worked as a pilot for American Airlines within a few months.
Great watching your videos !! I have a question ... What is the average cost that I would be spending on a flight school ?
I’d also consider airspace of home airport and proximate access to the training areas. Last thing you want to do is pay for hours sitting in line to takeoff or cruising out of an overlying Bravo or Charlie just to do maneuvers.
thats a very valid point Sean! I should have talked more about that in the location part!
HI Kelsey, I've flown gliders with a club down in NZ before. Looking at going down there to get my glider cert, i'm hoping that gives me the core skills to then add my motor cert. I have commercial GA flying as a goal - seems like a long way to that goal. I like my day job, so not looking for a career change
Ha! Kelsey was really revved up in this one 😀!
Student Pilot in Upstate NY! I can back the initial stages of private. It's taken a long time...
Good info Kelsey.
Thanks Yogev!
Hi Kelsey~ I really like your video sooooo funny and very useful to me.^^ I’m in Australia now.I want to learn fly.But I don’t know which city learn fly best. Do you have any flight school recommend? Thank you !!!
The hardest part is not getting ripped off! Cheers, great vids.
Thanks for the tips! I live in Montreal and will be going to flight school after i finish my engineering degree in April. Haven't yet decided on a flight school, but will definitely use your info. Any suggestions pertaining to Canadian schools?
just do your research like I talked about in here...watch the video on learning to fly as well: th-cam.com/video/tsYDdAeXPZ4/w-d-xo.html
I went to 3 schools. One for my private, then my commercial/ME/ILS, then another school for my LR-Jet rating
Stumbled upon one of your videos and subscribed, which I'm glad I did. Couple questions: Do you still need a 4 year degree for regional airlines? And as an international pilot, do you need kind of special visa or have you ever had any problem with the custom at the airports you flew to?
you don't need a 4 year degree for the regionals I talk about that here: th-cam.com/video/telK_KC8uqE/w-d-xo.html and I have a crew visa for a few countries but the airlines handle that for the pilots!
Hey Kelsey I really need help on what’s the best flight school to go to and what do you recommend
At KHWD, there were five flight schools to choose from at the time. Two were scary. One never had anybody there. One was owned by a guy who only wanted wealthy students. The last one had plenty of instructors, plenty of planes, reputable mechanics, etc. The only downside was the owner was an A-hole. I interviewed five instructors before I even did my first introductory flight. The instructor I picked was a 65 year old PH.D. astrophysicist. This guy had every rating possible, helicopters too. He'd seen it all. He was really hard on me, but that was what I wanted. Not only did I get top notch training, we became good friends too. Mal has since passed away, but it was a high point in my life.
From my personal experience, I can advise on which flight school not to choose, if it appears on your short list. It was rubbish and didn’t deliver any of the requirements I had pre booked and made excuse after excuse and strung me along. I travelled from the UK to the US for the privilege too.
A brief of what I'm doing. Currently buy all the courses from king school. Ground school you know. And I have a very decent simulator using pilotedge as ATC. I'm considering on buying a aircraft to do my training. I'm and AP mechanic but I'm 30 years old. I would love to hear your thoughts.
You fly the classic 747? The inset image was the 100 prototype - nitpicking aside great upload in my day the choice was clear, the school that I hung out at for most of my childhood who let me sweep the hangars and wash their aircraft was the one, I rode a bicycle to training and had to train on Samba composite low wings one of the first LSA types certified for PPL and hour building - later on very dodgy 172's and I got 'free' ground school as well
well that was just a graphic, the intro has a -8 which I fly and my profile picture is a 400. No I don't fly the classic.
Hi Kelsey, love your videos. Potential new pilot here. Have you heard any real life info on liberty university flight schools? I’m looking for a flight school that is accredited and that is closest one to me. I have scheduled an appointment with the school already, just wondering if you have any real world knowledge of them.
Love the intro
Thanks Emirates, and thanks for commenting!
Thank you so much for this.
I did some flight training back in the early 90s at Hanscom AFB in Bedford, MA. I'm currently thinking about going for my PPL and going to see if there's still a school there. Just unsure which type of school I should choose for a PPL
Hey I’m a big fan of your TH-cam channel. hope all is well. I would like to go to flight school and I am trying to decide if I should attend ATP Flight school of JetBlue’s Gateway Select. ATP is 85,000 and JetBlue’s is $110,000 but comes with a guarantee of employment with JetBlue as a first officer after so no need to start at a regional upon graduation. Could you tell me what seems like a better deal?
Thanks for your time, Julian
What are your thoughts on airline-ran flight schools, such as United's Aviate Academy?
I’m considering a career change to go fly commercial. I had originally thought I’d get my private license at a local school and then go to a fast track school to finish my training and certifications. When I started to dig a bit more, I discovered I could do most/all of my training at the local schools and I was wondering which direction you’d go. Is it more beneficial to go to a fast track school like ATP or stick with the smaller local flight school?
Hey Before I ask you some questions I have to say I’m a very inspired and impressed by your work they are awesome. since you work for a major airline, which is a goal of mine. I was wondering if you knew whether major airlines prefer applicants from a highly ranked aviation college or if it doesn’t matter. I am debating between going to Purdue university which is ranked number 1 in the country and and Vincennes University which is ranked 121. Purdue University will be more expensive for me and Vincennes University wouldn’t cost me as much thanks
A lot of places don't care for the name. A friend of mine went to Embry Riddle and got tossed around for a few years before he could find a steady job. He calls it Embry Rip Off lmao
PvtDipwad thx
So I'm only in the very beginning stages of research, to the point that I'm still not even committed to going to flight school and more just interested. The video briefly went over financial options, how common is it for a school to offer some means of financial aid/loans? Is that something I should expect most schools to offer or assist with or should I be expecting to have to look around for one that does?
Awesome info im trying to attain as much knowledge about this field as I can. Is a bachelor's really necessary for airline companies, or can you still get hired on with the required flight hours?
In case you have not found the answer yet, a bachelors is absolutely required if you want to fly for a major airline. If you are fine flying for a regional then most will take you without right now. But do keep in mind you are always going to be less desirable than someone with a degree. Online schools are cheap and a great option to fix this problem.
Studying in central Ohio and wanted to see which you would choose, a flight school with more planes (6 c172s vs 2) and sponsored by republic or a school that is cheaper ($163 an hour total vs. $220 an hour total) and AOPA recognized
What are your thoughts on American Airlines Cadet Academy??? Thanks!
Thank you
glad you enjoyed it John!
@@74gear you answered me again
Glad second time😊
I start to study in Neuquén, Argentina, and is the only school in miles miles away, other opcion is on line school, but you have to travel so far to the test, so i pick Neuquén, sorry for my low level inglish. Cya.
Good Stuff. Add to it, WHAT IS YOUR GOAL? I've been a PPSEL for 30 years. Now I want to become a CFI, with emphasis on tailwheel and aerobatics. Many schools push you into twins after the instrument rating for people looking to become airline pilots. I just want a single for the complex and high performance endorsement's. Found one at KAFW (surprised at how few there are or at least advertise). So once all my written work is done will be relocating there for awhile. Visited them once, but will sit down with the Chief Instructor before commitment. My personal experience has been most customer service at FBO's stinks. It's not until you have taken lessons or rented several time's before it improves. Always been a problem in my opinion.
ya I did a goals video at the start of the year but good to see you have some already planned out. Let me know how it all goes Michael!
@@74gear Passed the Commercial written (87%), pretty happy considering last written (instrument) was like 14 years ago. Set a goal for Instructor written Mid-march. Will add the AGI too. The final written FOI by Tax Day, we all know when that is.
What are the regulations on colorblindness in pilots? I know you need the ability to recognize colors in order to safely operate the aircraft, but is there a certain allowable level of colorblind? For me, I’m only a little color blind. I only have trouble differentiating certain colors. But I don’t know what the regulations are like. So if you know anything about this I’d love some insight! Thanks! (Love all your videos btw)
Question: Do you prefer flying passengers or do you prefer flying cargo.
P.S. I saw a picture on your instagram of you carrying a lamborghini in your aircraft
I like both honestly, they both have things I like and dislike so I like that I get a variety when I am flying so it doesn't become repetitive too much
Kelsey, did you go to Dallas for flight school? Because my brother went there and I am considering getting a private license, and maybe if my motivation brings me farther, I’ll go for commercial as well.
Picking a school now seems easy after watching this video. But how about the medical certificate? Should I get a first-class medical before starting flight school, or third-class and upgrade it as I climb through the aviation ladder?
Amazing advice! Any chance of a video on UK pilot schools?
I am not really sure I would be the pilot to give you that insight, I know some about the EASA conversion but not a lot on the program. However I think a lot of the same rules apply that I talked about here SR... let me know if you have any specific questions.
@@74gear I was mainly wondering what the difference is between ATPL, MPL and CPL. If you happen to know anything about that, that would be great
what I would do would be work backwards from your goal airline and that will let you know which one will be best for you... like I explain in this video... th-cam.com/video/SOIY05qreRc/w-d-xo.html
@@74gear Thanks a lot! Live your videos!!
Hey Kelsey, I live in India and we have a monsoon based climate all over... Do you think it will be worth it to go to a different part of the country to get admitted in flight school or I must pursue the schools near me..
I would be highly thankful if you reply me back.
Thank you
Anjisnu
Hello Kelsey, do you know anything about Blue Line Pilot School in NC? I am debating between ATP and Blue Line. However, ATP is 9 month long now and BL is 5.5 month. Please help, any advice ?
thank you for your video, i found a school that is offering the private pilot license for 11,500 is in texas. i like it because compared to others school i get more hours for the same price. i live in NY Tho.
well if it is a good fit for you then thats all that matters, this video has a good idea on the gear you will need and what to expect: th-cam.com/video/tsYDdAeXPZ4/w-d-xo.html
Hey Kelsey! I am planning on attending ATP in New Jersey in a couple of months after I get my PPL. Do you think weather will not allow me to fly as much as I’m working towards my instrument rating and commercial like the PPL or should I consider another location?
I don't know the annual weather pattern of NJ... so thats not something I can answer for you. I never did any flight training in that area and when I flew in there it was with the airlines and obviously its different circumstances than what you would need to fly.
Love your show. I found there is a lot macho pilots and cool instructors with the ( I'm a better pilot mentality ) that makes many but not all, fundamentally narcissistic. To much Hollywood I suspect. Or is it the to few pilots syndrome that makes them feel special. This imparts a reason why every year people die foolishly. Always and forever be a good student, and humble yourself before each flight.! Maybe you could touch base for a straight in, in this regard. I know you can.! Thanks for the update moving forward.
@74, you asked for us to ask a question here instead of email... id rather talk over email or phone(phone and email in email) but if I had no strings attached... whats the best quickest international option... ?
I live near a municipal airport (SMO). Should I look there for flight schools first?
I thought it was funny that you mentioned Dallas in your video. I plan on attending American Flyers. Was going to go to ATP, but they did not want to train me. AF took me up in a 172RG with full fuel, we had no problems. Granted I am loosing weight so I can learn to fly and maybe be more attractive to airlines. Most of this school are military guys. I went for my demo flight, found out I was ill prepared even studying Gold Seal ground school.
ya there is a LOT to learn in aviation Christopher, but if you put your effort in it you can learn what you need to be successful, let me know if you ever have questions but a lot of videos in here should be able to help.
@@74gear I have many hours in a commercial jet, more in a 747 as a passenger. The G's I felt in that 172 I never felt in a big jet. I can not quit thinking about it.
Oh id have to just go to one nearest me.
My question is how do you go from Cessna's and Piper's to say UPS/Fed Ex Cargo planes, and then onto 767/747 Airliners... Is there more schools at like 200-250hours that train you on DC10's or whichever for Fedex, or is it all in the seat learning??
Great video thank you sir!
I just have one small question. The flight school i went to check had 3 different program (from 55k to 72k) they said if i choose the most expensive one i’ll get college diplomas and will have early access of taking ATP exam (theory only) and 50hrs of multi. Do you think Is it necessary or should i just go for cheapest(modular program). I might ask you a silly question but i have no one to ask. Thank you!
well that is a decision you are going to have to make for yourself, I talk about the options in the prior video where I talk about the restricted ATP, you are just going to hav etc do research make a decision.
Is it a good idea to start your career in the airforce and switch then to a commercial airline?