Awesome. I’ve had several old 5E3s as well over the years; these tips work the same way on all of them. Your comment reminds me I have an old GA20 I should bring out sometime. It’s a ‘53. Output transformer mounted to the speaker frame, haha.
Haha. I’ve never liked the 5e3 over the top “caving in” tones when demonstrated on YT. But at 2:00 when you demonstrated the solo tone in a mix it makes so much more sense now. Really nice
I love to hear beautiful notes and tones played out of simple chords. You really make that stuff sing. And you're one of the best out there for that. There's a real place for someone who can make cowboy chords rule. Thanks Justin.
I have a 5E3 amp made by a small builder in Washington. I traded a Mesa MkIIB for it and I think I got the better end of the deal. I never really clicked with the Mesa but the 5E3 is the sound of rock 'n' roll. My tips are 1) I keep my Tone around 5 and both volumes around 11 because that way I can easily plug into any input jack and not have to readjust things. I find that Normal volume 1 works very well with humbuckers and Normal volume 2 works well with single coils because it still remains much of the punch and chime but it's not as murky sounding as the volume 2 inputs. 2) As far boost pedals go I like using an EHX Soul Food. I've found that the Soul Food is one of the few boost/drive pedals that mate well with a 5E3. I also like the fact that you can still use the guitar's volume knob and still get a wide range of clean and gain options at your fingers.
I have Gibson versions of that classic circuit, which they got from the same tube manuals Leo Fender used. I usually run them at about 4, which is where Dave Cobb (the Nashville producer) said he likes to run them at their "magic spot". They aren't known as clean amps, but they have a wonderful tone full of character, if you want overdrive or distortion it's easy to get by turning up farther on the amp or guitar, or stomping on a box. I prefer clean tones now that I'm getting old, and can't stand some of the music I used to think I liked. Clean tones sound more musical to me, and make me FEEL better too. Music makes me feel emotions - great music can make me feel ecstatic, and brings tears to my eyes. I witnessed the Muddy Waters band bring the audience to a collective musicgasm! I was on a high for a few weeks after that 1970's concert in Tucson. I prefer clean tones, and effects too. Pedal steel guitar is one of my favorite instruments, something about that clear, clean, round, warm, juicy pedal steel sound that I love, and fiddle plaing too, but I digress. Getting back to the Deluxe circuit amps: i prefer that circuit with 10" speakers, which work well with a deluxe sized cabinet. My GA-14 has a Weber 10A150, and the GA-18 a Weber 10F150. The GA-14 has two channels like a Deluxe, the GA-18 is one channel with tremolo (swampy sounds!). With those Weber speakers large magnets and voice coils, you don't miss not having a 12" speaker. I like them more with the 10" because of their quicker response and tighter lows, they seem to cut better too. 20 years ago I decided to collect old Gibson and Ampeg amps instead of Fender, which already cost considerably more even back then. I'm glad I did, because the 6V6 Ampeg and Gibson amps are excellent sounding once they are properly serviced, and mine run dead-quiet at idle with the volume up. I rarely play my deluxe reverb clone with Weber 12F150 anymore, a really good sounding amp, because my Gibson and Ampeg amps sound better to me.
It’s been rumored to be the most recorded amp of all time. A lot of the classic Marshalls we think we have heard on records were actually Tweed Deluxes…or so we’ve been told. Built my first one 25 years ago, and just finished another one a few weeks back (sold the original one years ago, and regretted it every day since).
@@papadavewatson princeton and Dr may be more popular TODAY, but in the heyday (I’m talking the classics like the Wrecking Crew etc). Princetons too flatulent, and the DR is more scooped for clean tones. The tweed deluxe is almost all mids, which record a bit nicer
@@papadavewatson today, maybe.. pre-1996, you couldn’t give a Princeton away I’m talking classic recordings (say 1964-1984), the tweed deluxe dominated (Eagles, Neil Young, Larry Carlton as well was a staple in most studios)
I love the cranked sound of my 5e3 but I made it even better by adding a 5f10 Harvard via a Radial true bypass AB/Y box with a Strymon reverb on the Harvard. Now I can go from Muddy Waters to Neil Young and Crazy Horse without changing my settings. Thanks for the tips and keep the great content coming. Always something to learn in your videos.
Thank you for your posts! Your incites are always spot on, and appreciate your experience and expertise. Not playing out anymore, but enjoy jamming with my neighbor. Tip #3 all the way! 5e3’s makes an awesome pedal platforms. You don’t need much, but I’m running a Wah, Fuzz, Over Drive, Delay, and Trem/Reverb (Flint). I took out the Blue that I bought the amp with, and put in a Jupiter LC…might have to try the Blue again at some point? If I ever jam in a full band again, I will get rid of a couple of the pedals and definitely try run it hot!
Brilliant thanks, I have a Fender Blues Deluxe and this works really well (all the tips) I did notice when I turn up the treble knob up to 12 literally all the low end of that frequency disappears but pull it back to 10 or 9 and that warmth comes back in 👍🏼
I like to crank the tone knob all the way up on the amp and leave it there, then turn the tone knob down on the guitar as needed (tele bridge single coil). This gives a little more gain and a woody pluck… and then you can turn up the tone knob on the guitar if you feel like going full JTM45
Justin. Thank you for sharing your insights on the Tweed and BF Deluxes. Based on this video, I pulled the trigger recently and built a clone and while I was at it I rebuilt my BF Deluxe Reverb that I built about 20 years ago. Updated it and did a much better job on the chassis and cab.
Just watched this through again and Yes, such a versatile beast is the venerable Tweed. Happy Holidays to you and your family and thanks for keeping us brim full of really solid knowledge as pickers and shit kickers.
Great lesson, I’ve got a Cornell Romany 12, it’s a 10 watt version and only single channel but Denis has added a mid pot, 4 power settings that still sound great, even at 5 and a 1/4 watt, the 1/8 watt is a little weak though. Also he’s added a tone stack lift too.
I recently picked up a quilter super block us, and set it to the 57 setting and get a nice tweed style tone. The slapback going into it front end sounds wild and rhythmic like it does in this video. The reverb sounds better in post on recordings or the PA system's plate setting.
Holy moly. I do this exact same thing and It's THE most beautiful sounds ever. Took me 18 years of playing to finally find the one amp. I've built mine myself. But I have the same experience as you; very small pedalboard into the deluxe (I also have the alnico blue!). And I'm pretty much exclusively play Les Paul Junior. P90 rule. Great content dude.
I have bought one with Alnico blue, it will come in two days. I heard one with this speaker and it is much more sweeter and smoother sound, I cant stand against this.
Tweed Deluxe is an outstanding amp. I got a Mojotone and love it. BTW the Boss WAZA Tube Amp Expander Amplifier Attenuator is excellent. I have only used it with BF Fenders and it's very useful and versatile. Justin, you play great.
I want to refocus my channel to do something similar to this in more of a live context. i'm not much of a huge session player. but i play out 2-3 times a week. and i'm on stage to support as a "rhythm" and "slide player". I love your position and outlook on the togetherness. "Being an Onion" haha@@JustinOstrander
Man. Killer video as always. Any chance we could get a video breakdown of the “cab in the garage”? Your tones are always incredible and I’m interested in also potentially setting up a cab to record in the garage. But I have NO IDEA what’s the best way to do that. What works for you? Iso cab? How important is temperature/climate control in garage? How do you get signal to your studio? Sorry if this seems silly to ask, but I’d love to see how you do it!
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Well done. I now need to plug back into my Ox and try the more cranked settings instead of the “pedal platform” settings, which is where I have been for a while. The other incredible thing is putting an EQ pedal in front of the Tweed Deluxe. Unbelievable. I can make it sound like a Deluxe Reverb (except richer) and even like a Vox AC30 with lush chime when I cut out enough bass frequencies! (I’m running an alnico blue and 12AX7 preamp tube)
Tweed Deluxe is pretty much my desert island ‘if I could only have one amp and one guitar’ amp. However, I’ll never be able to afford one now that I’m retired, nor would I be able to turn it up to utilize its full potential. However in my experiences, I’ve learned the poor man’s method to get in the ball park. Get the right kind of fuzz pedal (one the cleans up well with guitar volume roll-off, but goes full spluttery fuzz when you turn up), do the 50s Gibson wiring mod to a guitar, and lastly, run into a mildly driven amp (or a mildly driven overdrive if you want to keep your amp clean). With this setup, I can do glassy cleans to Stones crunch, to Hendrix Fuzz or Neil Young cranked tones, just by working between 5 to 10 on the guitar volume depending on how hot the pickups are - my Tele will do the full range between 7 and 10.
There are lots of affordable 5E3 circuits. It’s even a simple amp to build if you’re the tinkerin type. But I totally agree-the amp responds to the guitar’s volume like a good (well, great really) fuzz pedal.
I have a Kendrick 2112 (5E3 circuit) , I havent tried jumpers because the amp just sounds fantastic already. It can be remarkably loud for such a small box. Mine seems to really love mini-humbuckers, especially in a room with noisy wiring. Thanks for going through these scenarios.
Hi justin, love your approach to this channel and this is my first comment. I now have an official 5E3 obsession. I love your solo here and im in the process of transcribing it, wish there was a tab to make it a tad quicker! Thanks for all you do!
A great video on my favourite type of amp. Something I occasionally do on mine is jumping the channels with an echo unit in between the two channels. I suppose you could describe it as a primitive effects loop but you can change the echo sounds by altering the amount of drive going in by altering the channel volume on the channel hitting the unit’s input. My fender actually goes really clean if I am going straight into one channel and put the other flat out. I actually bought it to get the 50’s /60’s blue note jazz guitar tone similar to Kenny Burrell and it is great with an arch top but I love playing more rock or blues styles though it especially with a telecaster where the harshness disappears from the treble pickup and there is a lot of mid range compared to a blackface.
I may be a minority here, but I LOVE input 2 of the normal channel. Everything on 3. For live use it's still got enough headroom for a bold volume boost
Never had a Tweed Deluxe. But at one point I owned a Hot Rod Deluxe, I think it was 60W not 40W. Man that had some beef to it! Yes, cranked it up and nearly bled out my ears, LOL! As always love your tones. Thanks for sharing Justin!!!
Great video! This inspired me to play a couple of gigs with a cranked Pro Junior. The only pedals I used were a Flint, an El Capistan, and a Boss GE-7 as a mid boost for solos. It was a blast, and I think I'll be doing more of it.
Some very inspiring tones there! Been enjoying my swart ast and riviera rockcrusher in a similar fashion too. Thanks for giving me the idea of effects into the front end when the amps cooking.
Gave you an ig follow. Hands down the best channel I’ve found in a long time. I completely agree with your opinion on these tones they sound incredible
Amazing sounds. Great sounding amp and what a guitar. I should not forget that at least 80% of the sound comes from the hands of the guitar player. So congrats. Do you recall the gage of the stings you had on your Les Paul when you register that video? Thanks, much appreciated.
Kickass tones, man! Thanks for sharing. I’m currently trying to decide between a tweed deluxe style amp or a Dr. Z Z-wreck Jr. The answer is clearly both, but I’m not there financially right now :)
Ok- that solo around 2:09 is killer - I am trying to learn it as it seems to contain several elements of a rock/modern country solo (those bends/runs are super cool). I assume that was pulled from the vault of many - this tone is killer. Future episode - constructing solos - I know you have done similar eps in the past, but I think your viewers would like a new primer.
I really like my J Rockett Archer into it. I find it to be a pretty honky and bad sounding pedal into most amps. It doesn't really sounds like a more faithful Klon. But into a tweed deluxe with the pedal's gain turned up to around noon and the treble set to just about the same, it sounds amazing into the 5e3. It cuts out all the flub while adding 3d sounding harmonics. And it cleans up well with the volume knob. I also run a strymon volante into it will "silver ratio" multi taps that have the treble and bass cut quite a bit. I leave it on pretty much all the time and it doesn't really get in the way. This was a great video. I"m going to have to try setting it a bit cleaner and running pedals into it. I usually have both volumes set to 6.5 and plug into the bright. I but I like how your od sounded into it when it was set up mostly clean.
Always love your insight, brother. Many thanks. I’ve got a Morgan tweed 20. That doesn’t have the two channel input but still behaves very similarly and I totally agree. You can run a hot or cleanish hot and either way you slice it it’s a beauty. But the Ox Box is a must to actually play it at home.
@@JustinOstrander I had some questions about mine because it had some wild huge rectifier out of a Soviet sub and no serial number. I wrote the company and “the company” wrote back, “That must be one of the first ones I built.” Love it. I was chatting with Morgan himself. And he directed me to a proper Mullard as well. The amp sounded great in the shop and looked so good sitting on top of that fantastic Morgan cabinet, AND I was looking for a Tweed. But I won’t lie, my name is Meeno and the moment I saw an amp with a big glowing M on it, I knew it was the one for me.
Great video! Tasteful playing, and good advice also! Would you make a video with the Lazy J and a fuzz face pedal? I like my JHF1, and would live to hear how it sounds with a 5e3 circuit...
Great tips. I don't like that fuzzy farty sound when strumming low, but in the mix, in the middle of the neck, it really shines. I can never get comfortable with this type of amp. I'll try your settings. ( BTW I would put that key light lower, so you can have a catch light on your eyes; with no catch light, people look lifeless )
Awesome as always Justin. I have the same amp for years now. I always used both channels together with a jumper cable. Never tried your setting. What is this speaker that you use in the open back cab?
Thank you for this Justin! Super helpful. I rarely (never) get to crank mine and considering the UA Ox. Not stoked to spend that kind of money, but seems like a good solution. Thoughts?
@@JustinOstrander Just purchased the Ox via your link. Glad I could help support the cause! Gonna send you an email sharing a brief story about my recent aquisition involving mutual acquaintances.
Make the jump, you won’t regret it! With an Ox and a JTM 45 clone and a 6G6 B Bassman clone that I use, you don’t need many pedals to find the tones you’re looking for. With the Ox, you’ll find a whole new relationship with your amps.
Justin, I just found your channel. You're a great player for sure with an amazing touch on that les Paul. When i heard your tone i said what the hell is this. Your tone is it , I Can tell on my phone for God sakes. It rings like a bell. I have a gold top les paul with p90s. My question to you is do i have to spend 4k to approximate the tone you get. I am loooking at purchasing a 5e3 from a small builder thats appox. 1/2 the price of a lazy J.( This question does not take into consideration the tone your getting from your hands which is huge). Thanks and God bless.
What is it about the Alnico Blue that you needed to get used to? I've changed the Blue to an Alnico Cream in mine but I'm not 100% pleased. I'm new to the channel - Great channel, great content & GREAT playing! Inspiration Deluxe!
The Alnico Blue is a uniquely loud speaker with loads of breakup. Very different the way it reacts to being pushed than most other speakers, ceramic or not. I have grown very fond of it. Couldn’t imagine anything else in my Lazy J
After hearing so much about the 57 Tweed Deluxe, I just got my first one, its a Victoria 20112, and I was not impressed to say the least. Will try cranking it in the morning. Thanks Justin, Oh by the way my last amp was a clone 68 50 watt Marshall by Rockette Retro, man those are really great amps, I wish I could have afforded to keep it., I'm just to old to carry it around to small venues, anymore, and when I would drag it into the bar, the owner would say keep it down.
Thanks for all you help, tried all those settings, and I have a whole new respect for the 5E3, its amazing amp, I put all NOS RCA tubes in it, and a Speed Shop A12Q speaker in it, man you can get some glorious sounds out of it. This is my new grab and go set-up.
Hi Justin, awesome sound! Do you have a "Treble Bleed Circuit" in your guitar? I often made the experience that especially P90 Pickups loose a lot of Treble when you roll the Volume pot down.
That tweed sounds down right fuzzy. Now I really want one....and I have a 54 Historic Les Paul that looks like your guitar. It's a 95 before they were called R4s. Love those P90s
@JustinOstrander yes they are. Very cool. Hows your intonation?. Have you tried a Music City Bridge on it? My G string can be a bit temperamental but I'm used to it and its totally worth it for the sound it gets, and not sure if that bridge will work on the reissues
Hey Justin, great video. I’ve been strongly considering the Lazy J 20 based on reviews. I’ve done a lot of research on other clones and the Fender ‘57 custom hand wired etc. Since the Lazy J 20 is on the higher priced range of 5E3 types, is it worth the higher cost in your opinion? Cost is not really a major factor but if you like the Lazy J much better than the many other examples you’ve most likely been able to play in your position, that would carry a lot of weight. Thanks Justin
I like mine more than the handful of vintage amps I’ve played. I have no experience with the fender hand wired. I got mine for basically artist cost, but would it be worth it at full price? Absolutely IMO
Great video man. About not needing an FX loop - what if you don’t want to have the volume rolled off, ie for a solo, but still want to use reverb or delay? Do you just turn the mix/effect level right down ?
Hey Thanks so much for these videos. They are all golden nuggets! I´ve got a question, maybe you wanna make a video outta it: Why do we never see you nashville studio session guitarist use something like the kemper Profiler, Axe FX or even Plug Ins? I´m thinking, it´s gotta be another reason but the sound. Because soundwise i bet no one can really tell e diffrence anymore between real and emulated amp...
The short answer is, I don’t like the way they feel. And I have lots of great amps. When people are paying me to record guitar, I need to exist in that last 3-5% of difference that an amp modeler does not capture-in terms of tone and in terms of my own inspiration. Now, I do like the speaker modelers (Ox, Revv, etc). Those are fine, and lots of people use them in town.
@@JustinOstrander cool thats what i thought! I feel the same. Had a Kemper back in 2014 but went back to real amps because something was just missing. Please keep up the content. In my opinion you make the best
John Bollinger was interviewing the guys over at Badcat amps and they were saying that Bonnie Raitt's crew swapped her over to a profiler without telling her and at sound check after strumming a couple of chords, she asked them what was wrong with her amp😂 Says it all really😊
A good original is fantastic. You’re hearing this through a warehouse ET65 (their g12-65 clone) in an ext cab. Quite a few Nashville guys (Dan Dugmore, Kenny Greenberg, Bob Britt) have very early Vintage 30s in theirs. I’ve always hated v30s, but those speakers in those old 5E3s sound amazing.
Lazy J does build them with the option of adding reverb and tremolo modules, but mine has neither. I haven’t even played a Lazy J with reverb or trem; I could see the trem circuit being cool. A tweed amp with reverb just sounds wrong to me. I don’t know. Need to try it before dismissing it I guess. 🤷🏻♂️
How are you getting the amp output into the computer? I don't see a mic, must be a Two Note or something similar to cut the power output and route to the computer. If so, we aren't hearing the Celestion Blue? It's cool, that's for sure.
JUSTIN, So you're NOT Jumping the channels and still the normal channel volume pot will change the bright channels input trim level? I didn't know that the bright channel pot and normal channel pots are working together even when the normal input jack is Unplugged.
@@JustinOstrander I looked at the schematic for the 57 tweed deluxe and the volume pots are connected in series so they do work together even when NOT jumping the channels. Maybe this is why you're able to fine tune the guitars pedals slamming and interfacing better with the front end?
Great hints. Worked for my GA 40 as well.
Awesome. I’ve had several old 5E3s as well over the years; these tips work the same way on all of them. Your comment reminds me I have an old GA20 I should bring out sometime. It’s a ‘53. Output transformer mounted to the speaker frame, haha.
@@JustinOstrander haha, must be fun changing speakers! Really enjoyed this segment! Made me subscribe!
@@JustinOstrander what is that tune you play at 8:35 ? I love it
Haha. I’ve never liked the 5e3 over the top “caving in” tones when demonstrated on YT. But at 2:00 when you demonstrated the solo tone in a mix it makes so much more sense now. Really nice
This should be included in the manual of every new one sold
That smirk when you roll the volume back up says it all!!!
I love to hear beautiful notes and tones played out of simple chords. You really make that stuff sing. And you're one of the best out there for that. There's a real place for someone who can make cowboy chords rule. Thanks Justin.
I have a 5E3 amp made by a small builder in Washington. I traded a Mesa MkIIB for it and I think I got the better end of the deal. I never really clicked with the Mesa but the 5E3 is the sound of rock 'n' roll. My tips are 1) I keep my Tone around 5 and both volumes around 11 because that way I can easily plug into any input jack and not have to readjust things. I find that Normal volume 1 works very well with humbuckers and Normal volume 2 works well with single coils because it still remains much of the punch and chime but it's not as murky sounding as the volume 2 inputs. 2) As far boost pedals go I like using an EHX Soul Food. I've found that the Soul Food is one of the few boost/drive pedals that mate well with a 5E3. I also like the fact that you can still use the guitar's volume knob and still get a wide range of clean and gain options at your fingers.
I have Gibson versions of that classic circuit, which they got from the same tube manuals Leo Fender used. I usually run them at about 4, which is where Dave Cobb (the Nashville producer) said he likes to run them at their "magic spot". They aren't known as clean amps, but they have a wonderful tone full of character, if you want overdrive or distortion it's easy to get by turning up farther on the amp or guitar, or stomping on a box. I prefer clean tones now that I'm getting old, and can't stand some of the music I used to think I liked. Clean tones sound more musical to me, and make me FEEL better too. Music makes me feel emotions - great music can make me feel ecstatic, and brings tears to my eyes. I witnessed the Muddy Waters band bring the audience to a collective musicgasm! I was on a high for a few weeks after that 1970's concert in Tucson. I prefer clean tones, and effects too. Pedal steel guitar is one of my favorite instruments, something about that clear, clean, round, warm, juicy pedal steel sound that I love, and fiddle plaing too, but I digress. Getting back to the Deluxe circuit amps: i prefer that circuit with 10" speakers, which work well with a deluxe sized cabinet. My GA-14 has a Weber 10A150, and the GA-18 a Weber 10F150. The GA-14 has two channels like a Deluxe, the GA-18 is one channel with tremolo (swampy sounds!). With those Weber speakers large magnets and voice coils, you don't miss not having a 12" speaker. I like them more with the 10" because of their quicker response and tighter lows, they seem to cut better too. 20 years ago I decided to collect old Gibson and Ampeg amps instead of Fender, which already cost considerably more even back then. I'm glad I did, because the 6V6 Ampeg and Gibson amps are excellent sounding once they are properly serviced, and mine run dead-quiet at idle with the volume up. I rarely play my deluxe reverb clone with Weber 12F150 anymore, a really good sounding amp, because my Gibson and Ampeg amps sound better to me.
Yep yep! Been loving 5e3 for decades and you make yours sing like no other.
Got to be THE definitive Tweed Deluxe video you've presented here. Exemplary playing too by the way.
It’s been rumored to be the most recorded amp of all time. A lot of the classic Marshalls we think we have heard on records were actually Tweed Deluxes…or so we’ve been told. Built my first one 25 years ago, and just finished another one a few weeks back (sold the original one years ago, and regretted it every day since).
I would bet the PR and the DR are more recorded.
@@papadavewatson princeton and Dr may be more popular TODAY, but in the heyday (I’m talking the classics like the Wrecking Crew etc). Princetons too flatulent, and the DR is more scooped for clean tones. The tweed deluxe is almost all mids, which record a bit nicer
@@papadavewatson today, maybe.. pre-1996, you couldn’t give a Princeton away
I’m talking classic recordings (say 1964-1984), the tweed deluxe dominated (Eagles, Neil Young, Larry Carlton as well was a staple in most studios)
It’s just a perfect amp. No silly overdrive pedals. All real tube overdrive. Awesome playing!
I'm gigging today on a friend's tweed Deluxe. Super helpful tips, as always. Thanks, Justin!
This video answered all of my questions and none I didn’t need answered. Well done, my man.
Wow. What a killer tone. And the LP sounds great through it.
I love the cranked sound of my 5e3 but I made it even better by adding a 5f10 Harvard via a Radial true bypass AB/Y box with a Strymon reverb on the Harvard. Now I can go from Muddy Waters to Neil Young and Crazy Horse without changing my settings. Thanks for the tips and keep the great content coming. Always something to learn in your videos.
Thank you for your posts! Your incites are always spot on, and appreciate your experience and expertise.
Not playing out anymore, but enjoy jamming with my neighbor. Tip #3 all the way! 5e3’s makes an awesome pedal platforms. You don’t need much, but I’m running a Wah, Fuzz, Over Drive, Delay, and Trem/Reverb (Flint).
I took out the Blue that I bought the amp with, and put in a Jupiter LC…might have to try the Blue again at some point?
If I ever jam in a full band again, I will get rid of a couple of the pedals and definitely try run it hot!
The tremolo with the bridge pick up turned down was so sweet! Great video Justin.
Brilliant thanks, I have a Fender Blues Deluxe and this works really well (all the tips) I did notice when I turn up the treble knob up to 12 literally all the low end of that frequency disappears but pull it back to 10 or 9 and that warmth comes back in 👍🏼
I like to crank the tone knob all the way up on the amp and leave it there, then turn the tone knob down on the guitar as needed (tele bridge single coil). This gives a little more gain and a woody pluck… and then you can turn up the tone knob on the guitar if you feel like going full JTM45
Justin. Thank you for sharing your insights on the Tweed and BF Deluxes. Based on this video, I pulled the trigger recently and built a clone and while I was at it I rebuilt my BF Deluxe Reverb that I built about 20 years ago. Updated it and did a much better job on the chassis and cab.
Dude this tone is unbelievable
Thanks man!
Love it! You just cannot beat that circuit. Great tips Justin. Sounds awesome.
Just watched this through again and Yes, such a versatile beast is the venerable Tweed. Happy Holidays to you and your family and thanks for keeping us brim full of really solid knowledge as pickers and shit kickers.
Great lesson, I’ve got a Cornell Romany 12, it’s a 10 watt version and only single channel but Denis has added a mid pot, 4 power settings that still sound great, even at 5 and a 1/4 watt, the 1/8 watt is a little weak though. Also he’s added a tone stack lift too.
I recently picked up a quilter super block us, and set it to the 57 setting and get a nice tweed style tone. The slapback going into it front end sounds wild and rhythmic like it does in this video. The reverb sounds better in post on recordings or the PA system's plate setting.
Holy moly. I do this exact same thing and It's THE most beautiful sounds ever. Took me 18 years of playing to finally find the one amp. I've built mine myself. But I have the same experience as you; very small pedalboard into the deluxe (I also have the alnico blue!). And I'm pretty much exclusively play Les Paul Junior. P90 rule. Great content dude.
I have bought one with Alnico blue, it will come in two days. I heard one with this speaker and it is much more sweeter and smoother sound, I cant stand against this.
Great video! The Tweed Deluxe is such an easy amp to gig.
Tweed Deluxe is an outstanding amp. I got a Mojotone and love it. BTW the Boss WAZA Tube Amp Expander Amplifier Attenuator is excellent. I have only used it with BF Fenders and it's very useful and versatile. Justin, you play great.
You’re my favorite. Grateful for this content, this channel and you. 🤟🏼
I appreciate that!
I want to refocus my channel to do something similar to this in more of a live context. i'm not much of a huge session player. but i play out 2-3 times a week. and i'm on stage to support as a "rhythm" and "slide player". I love your position and outlook on the togetherness. "Being an Onion" haha@@JustinOstrander
Man. Killer video as always. Any chance we could get a video breakdown of the “cab in the garage”? Your tones are always incredible and I’m interested in also potentially setting up a cab to record in the garage. But I have NO IDEA what’s the best way to do that. What works for you? Iso cab? How important is temperature/climate control in garage? How do you get signal to your studio? Sorry if this seems silly to ask, but I’d love to see how you do it!
I go into detail on this in my “home rig rundown” video. It’s older, but the garage situation hasn’t really changed.
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Well done. I now need to plug back into my Ox and try the more cranked settings instead of the “pedal platform” settings, which is where I have been for a while. The other incredible thing is putting an EQ pedal in front of the Tweed Deluxe. Unbelievable. I can make it sound like a Deluxe Reverb (except richer) and even like a Vox AC30 with lush chime when I cut out enough bass frequencies! (I’m running an alnico blue and 12AX7 preamp tube)
It really is a wonderful circuit
Tweed Deluxe is pretty much my desert island ‘if I could only have one amp and one guitar’ amp. However, I’ll never be able to afford one now that I’m retired, nor would I be able to turn it up to utilize its full potential. However in my experiences, I’ve learned the poor man’s method to get in the ball park. Get the right kind of fuzz pedal (one the cleans up well with guitar volume roll-off, but goes full spluttery fuzz when you turn up), do the 50s Gibson wiring mod to a guitar, and lastly, run into a mildly driven amp (or a mildly driven overdrive if you want to keep your amp clean). With this setup, I can do glassy cleans to Stones crunch, to Hendrix Fuzz or Neil Young cranked tones, just by working between 5 to 10 on the guitar volume depending on how hot the pickups are - my Tele will do the full range between 7 and 10.
There are lots of affordable 5E3 circuits. It’s even a simple amp to build if you’re the tinkerin type. But I totally agree-the amp responds to the guitar’s volume like a good (well, great really) fuzz pedal.
I have a Kendrick 2112 (5E3 circuit) , I havent tried jumpers because the amp just sounds fantastic already. It can be remarkably loud for such a small box. Mine seems to really love mini-humbuckers, especially in a room with noisy wiring. Thanks for going through these scenarios.
Saw this video on the les paul forum, I INSTANTLY subscribed! I never do that!!
Thanks a ton!
Outstanding tone, when you clean it up the tone still has a nice bite to it!
Hi justin, love your approach to this channel and this is my first comment. I now have an official 5E3 obsession. I love your solo here and im in the process of transcribing it, wish there was a tab to make it a tad quicker! Thanks for all you do!
A great video on my favourite type of amp. Something I occasionally do on mine is jumping the channels with an echo unit in between the two channels. I suppose you could describe it as a primitive effects loop but you can change the echo sounds by altering the amount of drive going in by altering the channel volume on the channel hitting the unit’s input. My fender actually goes really clean if I am going straight into one channel and put the other flat out. I actually bought it to get the 50’s /60’s blue note jazz guitar tone similar to Kenny Burrell and it is great with an arch top but I love playing more rock or blues styles though it especially with a telecaster where the harshness disappears from the treble pickup and there is a lot of mid range compared to a blackface.
I've done the same trick with a Wampler reverb pedal connecting the two channels. Works like a charm.
I may be a minority here, but I LOVE input 2 of the normal channel. Everything on 3. For live use it's still got enough headroom for a bold volume boost
I’ll have to try that sometime!
Never had a Tweed Deluxe. But at one point I owned a Hot Rod Deluxe, I think it was 60W not 40W. Man that had some beef to it! Yes, cranked it up and nearly bled out my ears, LOL! As always love your tones. Thanks for sharing Justin!!!
Great video! This inspired me to play a couple of gigs with a cranked Pro Junior. The only pedals I used were a Flint, an El Capistan, and a Boss GE-7 as a mid boost for solos. It was a blast, and I think I'll be doing more of it.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing
@@JustinOstranderwhat are you playing at 8:36? You sound great and I love the progression and how you tie the chords together
Some very inspiring tones there! Been enjoying my swart ast and riviera rockcrusher in a similar fashion too. Thanks for giving me the idea of effects into the front end when the amps cooking.
Thanks! It doesn’t always work as well in most other amps…that’s one of the things I love about the 53E.
Gave you an ig follow. Hands down the best channel I’ve found in a long time. I completely agree with your opinion on these tones they sound incredible
I appreciate that!!
this is a great channel, solid advice form a pro, no frills, awesome
Amazing sounds. Great sounding amp and what a guitar. I should not forget that at least 80% of the sound comes from the hands of the guitar player. So congrats. Do you recall the gage of the stings you had on your Les Paul when you register that video? Thanks, much appreciated.
I keep 11s on the goldtop.
Thank you, Justin. I really enjoy the videos. I'll have to try this with my Victoria 20112.
Sending aloha from Hawaii.
My top tip for a tweed deluxe - Get Justin to play through it 👍🏻
Kickass tones, man! Thanks for sharing.
I’m currently trying to decide between a tweed deluxe style amp or a Dr. Z Z-wreck Jr. The answer is clearly both, but I’m not there financially right now :)
Ok- that solo around 2:09 is killer - I am trying to learn it as it seems to contain several elements of a rock/modern country solo (those bends/runs are super cool). I assume that was pulled from the vault of many - this tone is killer. Future episode - constructing solos - I know you have done similar eps in the past, but I think your viewers would like a new primer.
I really like my J Rockett Archer into it. I find it to be a pretty honky and bad sounding pedal into most amps. It doesn't really sounds like a more faithful Klon. But into a tweed deluxe with the pedal's gain turned up to around noon and the treble set to just about the same, it sounds amazing into the 5e3. It cuts out all the flub while adding 3d sounding harmonics. And it cleans up well with the volume knob.
I also run a strymon volante into it will "silver ratio" multi taps that have the treble and bass cut quite a bit. I leave it on pretty much all the time and it doesn't really get in the way.
This was a great video. I"m going to have to try setting it a bit cleaner and running pedals into it. I usually have both volumes set to 6.5 and plug into the bright. I but I like how your od sounded into it when it was set up mostly clean.
Just love the 5e3! Great Tips!
it's got that great, searing, fuzzy, on the edge of blowing up like Neil Young sound when dimed.
Great tutorial, very helpful. Cool 'licks'. Cheers! 😊
I havent watched this but i know im going to love it.
Always love your insight, brother. Many thanks. I’ve got a Morgan tweed 20. That doesn’t have the two channel input but still behaves very similarly and I totally agree. You can run a hot or cleanish hot and either way you slice it it’s a beauty. But the Ox Box is a must to actually play it at home.
I have a Morgan tweed as well. Great amps!
@@JustinOstrander I had some questions about mine because it had some wild huge rectifier out of a Soviet sub and no serial number. I wrote the company and “the company” wrote back, “That must be one of the first ones I built.” Love it. I was chatting with Morgan himself. And he directed me to a proper Mullard as well. The amp sounded great in the shop and looked so good sitting on top of that fantastic Morgan cabinet, AND I was looking for a Tweed. But I won’t lie, my name is Meeno and the moment I saw an amp with a big glowing M on it, I knew it was the one for me.
Good playing and good sound. I like tweed amps and P90's. I have small Swart STR-Tweed, Tungsten Cortez, Victoria 518, Tone King Gremlin.
Great video! Tasteful playing, and good advice also!
Would you make a video with the Lazy J and a fuzz face pedal? I like my JHF1, and would live to hear how it sounds with a 5e3 circuit...
And would you use the same settings for a fuzz as you described for running a pedal board?
Sounds great! Have you ever considered creating some Tonex profiles and selling them? I’m sure plenty of us would happily buy them! I know I would.
😮 what a fantastic video have a good weekend justin 😊
Neil Young certainly loved his! I built one about 10 years ago, still working. Need to take it on a gig I think.....
Does anyone know if all this applies to the UAFX Woodrow as well? Does it clean up that nice with the volume knob?
Good question!
Love the R4 and tweed. Try a Nocaster as well if you can.
Awesome video and great to see a Lazy J used properly. Any chance you’d share the H9 presets? I was really impressed!
You’re hearing the Mobius for tremolo and two different reverbs (I talk about which one is on when)-the Mercury7 and the Boss FRV-1
Great tips. I don't like that fuzzy farty sound when strumming low, but in the mix, in the middle of the neck, it really shines. I can never get comfortable with this type of amp. I'll try your settings.
( BTW I would put that key light lower, so you can have a catch light on your eyes; with no catch light, people look lifeless )
Awesome as always Justin.
I have the same amp for years now.
I always used both channels together with a jumper cable.
Never tried your setting.
What is this speaker that you use in the open back cab?
ET65 by Warehouse. It’s just a great sounding greenback variant. Closer to a G12-65.
Thank you, Justin. Great content. ✅ 🎶 🎵
Thank you for this Justin! Super helpful. I rarely (never) get to crank mine and considering the UA Ox. Not stoked to spend that kind of money, but seems like a good solution. Thoughts?
I love my Ox Box. Link in the description! 😇
@@JustinOstrander Just purchased the Ox via your link. Glad I could help support the cause! Gonna send you an email sharing a brief story about my recent aquisition involving mutual acquaintances.
@@PhoShzel75 Much appreciated! I'll look for your email
Make the jump, you won’t regret it! With an Ox and a JTM 45 clone and a 6G6 B Bassman clone that I use, you don’t need many pedals to find the tones you’re looking for. With the Ox, you’ll find a whole new relationship with your amps.
@@rdfindley56 the Ox is on its way! Was on the fence for a while. Can’t wait.
Justin, I just found your channel. You're a great player for sure with an amazing touch on that les Paul. When i heard your tone i said what the hell is this. Your tone is it , I Can tell on my phone for God sakes. It rings like a bell. I have a gold top les paul with p90s. My question to you is do i have to spend 4k to approximate the tone you get. I am loooking at purchasing a 5e3 from a small builder thats appox. 1/2 the price of a lazy J.( This question does not take into consideration the tone your getting from your hands which is huge). Thanks and God bless.
A tweed deluxe is a pretty simple circuit. I think finding a cheaper one and putting an alnico Blue in it is a great idea!
Thanks
Great playing, the LP sounds mega
Sounds amazing man! What p90’s are you running in that gold top?
Throbak 55/56
May I ask what pickups are in that beautiful Les Paul? I know they are P90s but yours are making that Gtr and amp sound too good!
Justin, great information as always. Is your Morgan setup in an ISO room (Cabinet) or open air? ------- Thanks for the channel 🎸🎸🎸
It’s just in my garage.
What is it about the Alnico Blue that you needed to get used to? I've changed the Blue to an Alnico Cream in mine but I'm not 100% pleased. I'm new to the channel - Great channel, great content & GREAT playing! Inspiration Deluxe!
The Alnico Blue is a uniquely loud speaker with loads of breakup. Very different the way it reacts to being pushed than most other speakers, ceramic or not. I have grown very fond of it. Couldn’t imagine anything else in my Lazy J
Sounds great Justin. Hey , how do you deal with 60hz hum with those P90 guitars?
I mute when I’m not playing, whether by volume pedal or tuner pedal. No noise gate or anything like that.
After hearing so much about the 57 Tweed Deluxe, I just got my first one, its a Victoria 20112, and I was not impressed to say the least. Will try cranking it in the morning. Thanks Justin, Oh by the way my last amp was a clone 68 50 watt Marshall by Rockette Retro, man those are really great amps, I wish I could have afforded to keep it., I'm just to old to carry it around to small venues, anymore, and when I would drag it into the bar, the owner would say keep it down.
Thanks for all you help, tried all those settings, and I have a whole new respect for the 5E3, its amazing amp, I put all NOS RCA tubes in it, and a Speed Shop A12Q speaker in it, man you can get some glorious sounds out of it. This is my new grab and go set-up.
Hi Justin, awesome sound! Do you have a "Treble Bleed Circuit" in your guitar? I often made the experience that especially P90 Pickups loose a lot of Treble when you roll the Volume pot down.
Thank you! I do not. 50s style wiring
That tweed sounds down right fuzzy. Now I really want one....and I have a 54 Historic Les Paul that looks like your guitar. It's a 95 before they were called R4s. Love those P90s
Awesome. The wrap tail Les Pauls are totally different animals. Love mine
@JustinOstrander yes they are. Very cool. Hows your intonation?. Have you tried a Music City Bridge on it? My G string can be a bit temperamental but I'm used to it and its totally worth it for the sound it gets, and not sure if that bridge will work on the reissues
Hey Justin, great video. I’ve been strongly considering the Lazy J 20 based on reviews. I’ve done a lot of research on other clones and the Fender ‘57 custom hand wired etc. Since the Lazy J 20 is on the higher priced range of 5E3 types, is it worth the higher cost in your opinion? Cost is not really a major factor but if you like the Lazy J much better than the many other examples you’ve most likely been able to play in your position, that would carry a lot of weight. Thanks Justin
I like mine more than the handful of vintage amps I’ve played. I have no experience with the fender hand wired. I got mine for basically artist cost, but would it be worth it at full price? Absolutely IMO
@@JustinOstrander Thanks Justin, I appreciate it
What headphones or hearing protection are you using?
GK Ultraphones.
Thats some great tones - you wouldn't consider making profiles ?
Great video man.
About not needing an FX loop - what if you don’t want to have the volume rolled off, ie for a solo, but still want to use reverb or delay? Do you just turn the mix/effect level right down ?
Then you definitely gotta turn the mix level down.
@@JustinOstrander cheers!
Tasty tones and playing too, Justin!
Hey Thanks so much for these videos. They are all golden nuggets! I´ve got a question, maybe you wanna make a video outta it: Why do we never see you nashville studio session guitarist use something like the kemper Profiler, Axe FX or even Plug Ins? I´m thinking, it´s gotta be another reason but the sound. Because soundwise i bet no one can really tell e diffrence anymore between real and emulated amp...
The short answer is, I don’t like the way they feel. And I have lots of great amps. When people are paying me to record guitar, I need to exist in that last 3-5% of difference that an amp modeler does not capture-in terms of tone and in terms of my own inspiration. Now, I do like the speaker modelers (Ox, Revv, etc). Those are fine, and lots of people use them in town.
@@JustinOstrander cool thats what i thought! I feel the same. Had a Kemper back in 2014 but went back to real amps because something was just missing. Please keep up the content. In my opinion you make the best
John Bollinger was interviewing the guys over at Badcat amps and they were saying that Bonnie Raitt's crew swapped her over to a profiler without telling her and at sound check after strumming a couple of chords, she asked them what was wrong with her amp😂 Says it all really😊
amazing tone!
Does the bright channel equate to the mic channel on the 50s originals?
Believe so!
Great sound! Is it a Lazy J20 or Lazy J10?
J20
@@JustinOstranderWith 6L6:s or 6V6:s? I have 6L6:s in mine. Killer amp!
@@lager9342 6L6. It is my favorite tweed ever.
That guitar helps a little bit too. 😊
I hope you keep the original speaker in good shape. Because that is so much a part of the tone.
A good original is fantastic. You’re hearing this through a warehouse ET65 (their g12-65 clone) in an ext cab.
Quite a few Nashville guys (Dan Dugmore, Kenny Greenberg, Bob Britt) have very early Vintage 30s in theirs. I’ve always hated v30s, but those speakers in those old 5E3s sound amazing.
Gear question! How do you have your rig setup so we hear your guitar regardless of Protools recording or not? Guess the same with your voice too!
Everything is running to a multitrack recorder
Can also put the verb in the line between the jumpered channels
Is V1 a 12ax7?
Do you use the reverb and tremelo in The amp?
Lazy J does build them with the option of adding reverb and tremolo modules, but mine has neither. I haven’t even played a Lazy J with reverb or trem; I could see the trem circuit being cool. A tweed amp with reverb just sounds wrong to me. I don’t know. Need to try it before dismissing it I guess. 🤷🏻♂️
How are you getting the amp output into the computer? I don't see a mic, must be a Two Note or something similar to cut the power output and route to the computer. If so, we aren't hearing the Celestion Blue? It's cool, that's for sure.
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Great video
Smokin man. Guess I need a deluxe
Ah yes, I love the sound of a Tweed Deluxe in the morning. It sounds like…….
Victory.
I got nothing, I just wish I could afford a Lazy J. Warm and rich, and the way it still cuts through that mix!!
"Every cloud..."
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There is a mod for the blackface '65 Deluxe called the "Frommel mod" have you ever checked that out ?
No sir
JUSTIN, So you're NOT Jumping the channels and still the normal channel volume pot will change the bright channels input trim level? I didn't know that the bright channel pot and normal channel pots are working together even when the normal input jack is Unplugged.
Correct! No jumper here.
@@JustinOstrander I looked at the schematic for the 57 tweed deluxe and the volume pots are connected in series so they do work together even when NOT jumping the channels. Maybe this is why you're able to fine tune the guitars pedals slamming and interfacing better with the front end?
Some of those lazy js have an fx loop, does yours?
If so is there anything in the loop at all? Like that boss reverb, ect
Nope. Mine is pretty basic. I’m not an FX loop guy anyway
ME: Justin said I should crank my Deluxe ! BAND: 🙄
Beautiful sound, just glorious.
Haha! Thanks!
I’m not a huge fan of Les Pauls, but it sounds great thru that amp.
You have some ears and fingers