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- LiDAR simply can not bounce back off something that isn't there. If it shows up on LiDAR it had to be something that can cause a return. Period. The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch new experiments.
So, how is it possible for the ground based LiDAR unit to pick up a 2000' high cone or pyramid over the Skinwalker Ranch. Extending from Homestead 2 to the East Field. ALSO, Now we have yet another donut shaped anomaly in the Triangle. This time it us UNDERGROUND!
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I work with lidar. What most folks don't realize is that there are two different types. Red is the most common, and what these guys use. Green is much more expensive, and is used for shallow water mapping as well as shallow water estuaries. Max penetration is 5m to 10m on a good day. Why don't these guys send a green lidar system up and orbit the anomaly at different heights?
By mapping the return signals out and mapping "the first of many" signals to the "next of many" signals, they can produce a 3D map of the anomaly.
Basically a red laser will pass right through it. A green one will "hop" through it according to these results.
That "hop" can provide an X-Ray image of this thing.
I tried to get hold of the guys about this. No luck so far. I asked Coulthart to pass the info on, but he is probably on a plane as usual, but at least I know he got my message.
I get the feeling they are pressed for time really bad and it is good you tried to get in touch with them. I had a realization last week that the sediment in the mesa is roughly Cretaceous age, coinciding with that mass extinction event (death of dinosaurs). That is a super weird coincidence if it matched exactly and there is a way to find out (L Alvarez and the KT boundary)
@@shelbyindianajones3226 I know Ross will get the message through. I guess you are right. It's a tight production with limited filming months. Rossco also has his own schedule. So, whenever he gets a chance. Probably a next season thing. Now, if anyone has access to the skinwalker ranch message board, plug this one through. Might speed things up.
I will mention it to them. I do have at least some good contact.
Travis's team is the slowest science working group of mankind. You really have to wait a long time until any results appear. There should be non-stop around the clock different groups doing tests and someone passing information between these groups to each other. Now this group of Travis is just playing for time and maximizing the money coming in. Really really annoying behavior.
So there is an unfathomable amount of slack in their way of doing things, and I'm really tired of hearing the glad tidings of Travis' horn of the only truth with already one-dimensional communication. Isn't anyone else capable of better communication there?
There, other members should have freedom of speech as well and everyone should be much much more active in communication and opinions. now travis steals all the stage stage time as it were.
@@oliivioljy9700 hey. True. But they are slaves to a production company. Brandon has his property business to run. That's America for ya. I don't blame anyone. I know they are tired, stressed out, and fed up. But they are doing their job.
haven't seen the episode yet but when Travis did the math back in season 1 (mapping diagram of a black hole) this is just all icing on the proverbial paranormal cake. plus if whatever is embedded in the sediments of the mesa (as in it did not just alien tech materialize within matter) is very old, that was a shallow sea that filled in around Cretaceous times. which, coincidentally enough corresponds with that massive extinction event at the KT boundary. that is super weird and it would be nice to know how that irregular layer that formed when the extinction happened (see L Alvarez) is relative to the object in the mesa.
Terrific conversation. These fellows are simply amazing. They provide the insight and understanding impossible to get from a 42 minute TV episode.
Thank you Tom!
I still remember talking to a super old man who was a guest of honor. He was some type of incredible scientist, who worked on the Hubble telescope, military bases, etc. I was a server, but I had to ask about aliens, and he said absolutely! Then proceeded to tell me stories of cigar shaped UFOs and etc.
Wow do you remember who he was?
My grandma told me about cigar shaped ufos. So what's your point?
prior AF member stationed at Hill AFB late 90's. Worked with off site satellite coms. Crazy stuff in the N.E. corner of Utah!
The other show that talks about SWR Episodes, Jeff mentioned - Skinwalker Ranch- David Paulides From Missing 411 Reviews the Latest History Channel Segment - th-cam.com/video/49fnj72MXkA/w-d-xo.html
😭 here in Portugal we cant see the 5th season im just been able to see this Litlle SIDE parts, DAM! 😤
Just noticed the cross that appears. Also appears when they first power up white board laser it’s obviously a laser design artefact
Yep, and it's definitely hitting some very thin clouds that you can't see unless you zoom in and slow the footage down. The other stuff is really great, though. I particularly liked Kaleb's walk around with the hand-held lidar which revealed the doughnut pattern beneath the ground (somehow).
Agreed, just the same of the laser beam.
They should shoot tracer bullets up the laserbeam instead of rockets that way they could follow the heat from the tracer bullets much easier
Dave is the absolute best, everyone should watch his episodes. Yeah a large percentage of the commenters on SWR videos are just not getting it... lack of science education in schools no doubt. If I had a dollar for every idiot that says blow up the mesa I could retire right now.
I know right? I enjoy watching Dave and have tried to reach out. I would love to have him on the show for a conversation.
With all the cameras on the place they should be able to create an exact track of any object.
Humour me a minute. How would a pyramid built with original Giza plateau building materials, with the gold tip touching the anomalous area react? Could that be why pyramids were built? To tap some sort of energy. Also get some experienced psychonauts to take some magic mushrooms there.
The pyramids on the Giza Plateau were not a tome as some have said. I do believe it was far more important than that. Could it have had created energy? I think so.
Great show @Jfree906 thank you so much! Not only we are now getting icredible mind blowing episods from the SSWR show, these review episodes are super awesome! Double the trouble!
Does anyone have an explanation for the effect on the blue laser on the right? It looks textured like a Van Gogh waterfall as opposed to the consistent texture of the rest of the lasers?
Not that I have heard. Seems like a distortion
I've been saying what Mike has been saying since the first GPS issues.
Yes, time is messing with things there. Now what in the world, or other worlds, could do that?
Amusing Speculation for entertainment reasons...but there is no in-depth knowledge of any real scientific understanding ? Why don't you just ask someone with some knowledge of what's happening ? That's Space science at Cambridge university, Space Technologies at Guildford University, and Scientists at Rutherford Appleton Laboratory (RAL).
Probably opportune to discuss electromagnetic radiation. The most familiar magnetic effects occur in ferromagnetic materials, which are strongly attracted by magnetic fields and can be magnetized to become permanent magnets, producing magnetic fields themselves. Only few substances are ferromagnetic; the most common ones are iron, nickel, cobalt, and their alloys.
Does this sound like the minerals in the masa ? Start thinking, not speculating....
I’ve actually spoken with a geologist at Stanford at length about the mineral makeup of the mesa. I’ve also done extensive research on the land survey. I’m certainly of the mindset that unique mineral materials in the mesa is a contributing factor.
Ok, do it. Contact those people and have them explain everything. I'll wait....
Other ranch owners have seen things on their ranches and in the sky for a long time apparently. I have seen all the episodes. They are not creating a false narrative. There are some real phenomena that can be explained by simple physics, but something else is going on when the white and silver orbs seem to have an intelligent control. They are not just electrical lightening balls, or anything like that. I can understand the GPS signals could be affected and then show anomalous data. I understand that there might be electromagnetic interference that could explain some of the weird incidences. Even the ground is highly magnetic. But the white orbs are something else. They have been seen in other places around the world. Many of the sightings have been debunked but some have been very suspect. That clinches it for me. I doubt that we have come up with something this advanced to overcome gravity, cloak, and move with the speed they do. I am an astrophysicist.
Okay this was hands down the best episode of the series
Looking at that lidar imagery was spooky.
It was for sure.
Min 47:00 these desending UAP looks for me exact like an airplane desending for landing and traveling in direction to the viewer. Have seen this often, and the planes where 100kilometers away!!! So even if they say on radar is no plane in near, you can see tjose airplane lights very far. The reason they didtn see it from the triangle could be have 2 reason: 1) the anomaly blocks it for them at the triangle, 2) from triangle position they where to close at the mesa, the light was too low already to be seen. Even as dragon climbed up...the thing is the mesa has several levels of height (can be seen on topo-maps), he couldnt perhaps didnt see too because 1)too late up there, 2) light was beneath another higher part of the whole plateau). If you look on maps west of Skinwalker Ranch you can find an nearby airport with a landing site in approx. east-west direction.
The team needs a top notch meteorologist that has been involved in top secret operations to join the team.
Yes Jeff, pretty huge! ⚔️⚔️👏
What can they provide for the rest of the series…. To better that, they need to introduce the audience to an alien? 🤣🤣
Great show Jeff 👋⭐️👏👍
I don't know but we shall see... Can't wait!
Cone vortex est volume=1/3pix0.25*.038 cubic miles? Cone Slanting side length from homestead 2 to cone apex ~0.62miles
Min 16:00 my thought to the blocking lasers is: a defect camera sensor. A defect that causes in a specific area of the camera that green cant be seen anymore. The shape of the "cutted" looks for me too rectangular. To confirm that we need information about the whole raw material and how filmed, was this seen from one single camera?
The Kracken is basically a phased array system. The wireless internet industry has been using this tech for 20 years. It originated as military tech for detecting signal origin location.
I haven't been able to see the last two episodes. If they are seeing these UAPs, then other people around the area should be seeing these also. If they were faking things then it would be kinda like military. Only a couple of people are in the know and all others involved are not aware of what is taking place. I doubt this is happening.
Other ranch owners have seen things on their ranches and in the sky for a long time apparently. I have seen all the episodes. They are not creating a false narrative. There are some real phenomena that can be explained by simple physics, but something else is going on when the white, silver orbs seem to have an intelligent control. They are not just electrical lightening balls, or anything like that. I can understand the GPS signals getting confused and causing the data to be irregular, but the white orbs are something else. That clinches it for me. I am an astrophysicist.
Isn't there another representation of GPS positional data that has almost the same ring below ground as well as above ground?
Drone are required to to broadcast remote id now. But have been required to be registered for a long time. Night ops for drones is legal as long as it has a strobe visible for several miles. Don't remember the exact distance.
This sounds wacked, but it seems like a temporal shift. Would a portal In time in theory cause that. Remember that the quarter second difference before?
when you mess with gravity, you affect time. your comment is not wacked at all
I agree. I do remember and we sorta talked about that last night. That 1/4 second loss is huge.
There is an interesting effect called the Shapiro time effect that was demonstrated in the 1960s. It was called the 4th test of general relativity that measured a radar pulse from Earth to Venus near superior conjunction showing a time delay. I did a quick, back of the envelope, calculation for this effect assuming a large mass at the triangle area. In order for this effect to introduce a 0.25 second time delay due to a massive object. There would need to be a mass 0.55 times the mass of the sun sitting at the triangle area. Obviously this large of a mass would create a gravitational field would be noticeable under any physics we understand.
Did they do anything to triangulate the altitude at which the laser "stopped"?
As powerful as that laser is I would have expected it to burn into whatever it was hitting.
Min 1:23:00 i am wondering if these left strange lines could are at near of that location where they had these weird LIDAR glitch into the sky near the stone circle some season ago 🤔
Yes I believe they are very near that spot
Very fascinating episode
It truly was.
they now make radars specifically to be able to track drones.
B Jones. The reason I am no longer a member of Skinwalker Ranch.
Ha ha somebody did release the kraken lol 🐙
Yeah sorry, couldn't help myself haha
@@Jfree906 What was this other show you mentioned that also cover the SSWR episodes?
gyroscopic control for the rockets. Be a mini unit.
What a show this must have been to watch and fantastic discussions again. Well done Mike that triangle is exactly as I imagined, see my comment from last week. Whatever the object is using to cloak itself absorbs green light. This was like one series in one show.
Is it possible that gps anomalies are not in fact anomalies? Like gps is tracking the uap movements instead traking their instruments of measure?
Fantastic
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Hope to see you next week!
@@Jfree906did you stream the skinwalker ranch episodes and the curse of oak island last year or am I confusing your channel with another
Why didn’t they use green lasers in s05e07?
Glad to hear your not debunkers !
Just think these places could be all over our earth we could be all riding one big machine a projector of sorts a main gateway to all places or the only place there is who knows
That is true Michael. We likely have these areas in several places around the planet.
Not sure about the name, but the Heinlein ( THEORY OF THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST), speaks about this subject😅, The energy to ritch a certain speed, go get such friction or lack of it , to enter.tje resonance ( frequency), to pass through the worm hole😮😅😮😅
1.6 GHz signal at Homestead 2 may come from that UFO shape underground they found during Series 1 in the road out front. If a UFO is buried there it all makes sense.
Oooh I had forgotten about that
HOLY COW I SEE IT NOW
I don’t understand. It seems a shape would eliminate the blue laser unless the object is blue laser and reflects the blue. Or maybe the shape is green and absorbs the green.
1:38:00 I think things have to be going a certain speed in order to pass through to the other side
re: the triangle shape blocking the green laser light. Could this be a cloaking technology similar to Chamelons? The shape looks a lot lie a triangle craft often citied in UFO encounters
Yes it does. So glad that Mike put that together for us to visualize!
Put the lasers 5 metres apart or more from homestead 2 to the east field and see if they all stop at different heights or the same height, imagine they were all different heights and looking from far makes a pyramid/ cone shape
😮 🤔 Keops pirâmide has 8 sides not 4🤫😵🤯😉 piramide shape???😮
I wonder if the interaction with just the green lasers is based on the frequency of the green lasers
They need to do a night jump and glide down through the triangle and see if that person goes into the wormhole
Haha yeah we have joked about that but what would happen if someone did and disappeared? What then?
First they need for activation the correct combination of: energy -frequency - vibration (according to beyond skinwalker Ranch series)😁
There isn't insurance for that. They can pull the tool out of the hole with yet another tool. Lol
They should fly a drone to take a closer look where the laser cannon stops.
I think the drones have an elevation limit, legally, and the laser was much higher than that limit. Laser was approx 2,000’ and a drone is 400’ from what I have read.
Some people like myself just like to call out bullshite. Think of it as a life calling. Call out people bullshite where ever it is found. When I hear "do your own research" it's a massive red flag for the shite of bull. 🤣
When I say do your own research, I mean, literally go back to school, get into a lab or into field work - not google things. If once you have exposed yourself to actual research work and you still come to the same conclusions, then that is fantastic because then we will have more scientific data to help shape the field to be more concise. That is what I mean when I say "Do your own research." I had questions, so I went back to school, I now work in a lab, I now work in the field and because of it I can formulate opinions based on those things in conjunction with the other information that already exists. So, when I say be part of the solution not the problem, I mean quite literally, do the field work to help prove your stance - let's figure out the mundane explanations so we can determine the phenomenal. To be clear that is a generalization, I have no way of knowing if you have already done that. If you have, then that is great! The majority of people don't and that is who it is directed at. The world is full of mysteries yet to be discovered - it doesn't mean it's alien technology or a wormhole, it means we don't know what it is so let's figure it out. Thanks for watching the episode all the way through though and for taking the time to comment!
Tesla THEORY 369 , i means, with the right amount of energy, the RIGHT intensity maybe can be achieved, the right frequency 😋🤪😲👍
No insurance on broken bits or stuck tools in a hole. The hole obstruction has had a bit run hard against something that a well designed rock bit cannot penetrate yet we don’t see bad friction damage and no particles in the mud. All my years of oil drilling work tells me they are not going to put in a cased 12” or larger bore with any kind of lock