Thank God I Had Warranty! [Ferrari 360 Annual Service]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- I take my Ferrari 360 to AV Engineering for it's annual service and they discover some big issues.
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That man would be an awesome teacher. He's very good at explaining things. I'm doing a motorsports course and this has taught me a little bit, thanks for not skipping it out Sam!
Exactly. Wonderful at explaining stuff! Best of luck with your course! 👍
@@tredfxman Thank you very much!
Yes, what a lad!
you must be on day one then if you diddnt know what each of those componenents did
Similar voice "pattern" to the late John Peel.
This guy truly knows whats on the menu! Wonderful at explaining stuff! 🙂 👍
He's justifying the bill..its an old routine
Maybe so, however.... always a pleasure to talk to pleasant people, and yes it is a good opportunity for them to get themselves a nice free TH-cam vid.
Great service by the company.
Loved having the mechanic talk through the issues on camera with the photos to go with it. Good stuff!
Was Doug DeMuro the one who recommended you to get a bumper-to-bumper warranty?
God, I think I am high I heard his voice somehow.
the first thing he said was ...".,.,,,,THIS... is a bumper to bumper warranty, and today I'm going to explain why you need it".
@@celt67 Either I am on crack or Doug DeMuro is living next door
Could have been Hoovie after his Ferrari turned into a bbq..!!
Let Porker drive it!!!
Of course then the real question becomes... if that's how much the service costs... how much did you spend on the warranty and how much did that end up saving you?
Shiznuts about 800€ à year something Life that. Considering he did at least 8000 miles with it it’s not that bad. Most people take 4 years ton do that
That would be a bargain. You'd think an insurer would know better than to commit to cover warranty on an old 360 that cheaply. :P
i guess most people just don't drive their old Ferraris that often. They don't do their calculations based on one person obviously but all.
Shiznuts when I was working for a reseller it was like 500€ for a 6 month warranty on a 355, 700€ a year for a 575. A Ferrari approved warranty is 2000€ a year so it is about that. And as I say a 3-4000 pound bill for a modena that did 13000km since last service isn’t that expensive
The cynic in me also wonders if AV Engineering also knew some of these faults were present before they sold the car, told the buyer to take out the warranty so they could then fix these problems after selling the car without spending AVE money making it ready for sale while appearing a hero to the buyer for recommending a warranty package.
You didn't mention the total cost of that service, and i don't think you've ever told us what that warranty package costs either. Come on Sam :) BUT: Great video. That guys knows what he's talking about. I enjoyed everything but the above mentioned issues.
imo, these cars are not worth the hassle, you'll be frightened to drive a car when you see the engine light turned on or you hear some rattling. Also, no labor cost were mentioned, the bill is easily over 5k!! And the insurance is not cheap either (no price was mentioned)
Check out more doug demuro...Insuring his ford GT is cheaper than my Abarth.
If you are worried about costs like this for cars like this, then these cars are not for you.
@@neilmcmahon Yep but still doesnt make it economically smart though. You can pretty much buy another one in 3-5 years just by amount of parts and labour that went to it. Whether its worth the experience and hassle is anyone opinion.
I agree, but my point is if you are privileged enough to own a car like this, being economically smart is low on the list of priorities, unless you are being totally stupid and living wy beyond your means.
A Ford GT is not a Ferrari. Sure its faster than a 360.... looks better than a 360, and if nicer to drive than a 360, but is not got the badge so the insurance is not going to be as high. If you snap a rod in the GT you get a mustang rod and your off and running. If you snap a rod in a Ferrari, it would not only cost 30k to fix it, it might just spontaneously catch on fire while its in the shop. Unless you are buying brand new... only an idiot would by a Ferrari unless its a show item that you will never drive.
Would have been good if you had given the price of the warranty, and the total cost of the service.
on older cars preventative maintenance is almost more important than general maintenance. i try to keep my car happy by being nice to it and it rewards me with hours problem free driving.
My word... he’s the next Tyrrell of Tyrrell’s Classic Workshop. Who knew how calming and engaging talking about the technical aspects of cars could be?
For a car guy this is the content that I really love. Technical details are so satisfying and even more so when being explained by a Ferrari expert like that! Top work Sam
thank god there are people like that to help people like you
The mechanic could have said your exhaust bearings were worn out and you would be like oh god good luck you found that I could have blown my engine in Monaco
I'm impressed with his knowledge. Reassuring.
I like this video but it's all pointless unless you say how much a 3 year warranty costs.
Probably more than the repair would have cost no doubt.
Great explanation on what was wrong, and I LOVE the accent. This video might be a few years old, but it's great stuff and sounds like you really have a great shop there!
Just out of interest how much did the warranty package cost?
This. Can imagine that it cost more than the repairs....tho he wont want to admit it.
@@wackojacko123 yeah these warranty packages cost a fuck ton
The warranty items in this video alone were ~£2k + 12h of labour which I would guess is anything from £800-1500. Considering he's only had the car for one year I seriously doubt that he would have saved money by not getting the warranty package.
@@Speednote10 let's hope he replies and tells us... If he doesn't then that says everything!
If he doesn't reply then that tells us nothing.
My late father was a motor engineer. He had a simple mantra..."If you cannot afford to buy it new, you may struggle to run it second hand.."...Cars like this are so delicate as to be real money pits.
And the problem is cars are getting more and more complex so will be even more expensive to maintain in later life.
I’ve found that both Ferrari & Porsche run the winter & summer clinics and they quote you on getting the car back to as new. I have found, luckily, a specialist who does both and me & my friend have literally saved many thousands of pounds by using Steve Bull specialist cars in Devizes. Uses all the same parts and gives the same warranty.
I remember, when younger, being told that if you could afford a used Jag then afford a new one but I never understood what it meant for my callow youth mind. It’s great to have a great Indy garage do your work for you. What was quoted, by Porsche was 16k but with the help of enthusiasts, cost me 5K
Great video. I love this sort of behind the scenes of car ownership. Most TH-camrs don't like us show this, respect 👊
Your jumper matches the garage shutter, fantastic.
Hahahaha
so good to see when you have a mechanics who is passionate at their job taking a no compromise fix it back to good as new
An aftermarket warranty on an older car or pre-owned exotic is worth it’s weight in gold. I have always found that the repair shops go above and beyond to fix every single niggle when the warranty company is paying. Without a warranty, most shops will be a bit more conservative with repairs.
AMGenius An AMG Lifestyle Channel He is owner number 7 or 8.
Damn... You can't put a value on a good mechanic like this guy. He is a boss!!!!!
AV are incredible! Knowledge and experience 👏🏻 oh...and thank god for warranty! ‼️
Nice video. Thanks for directly getting the facts from the tech working on the car... so nice to hear from someone who really takes the effort to do the best job.
Reassuring to know the car has been fettled properly by someone that knows what they are doing and is clearly passionate about it, top marks to AV.
Love anything and everything you put out in regards to the 360 👌🏻 supported the around the world, I hope your target is met!
Your mechanic is top notch Sam, he looks after the car, as if it was, his own!
I enjoyed this video, nice to see a calm genuine mechanic.
Look at Sam, maybe 2 or 3 times told us about the raisefund. Only 2K off his goal! No clickbait, no pushing, just hard work. Keep it going mate!
The Ferrari is going drive real sweet with clutch, gearbox, steering ball joints and the gaskets. Sam, I think you should take off the harnesses and put seat bealts in as it isn't a track car and looks a flaff to put on?
harnessses were a factory option which this car has
Exactly right. None of those things would have caused a major failure in the short term and one would not typically think to have a major service without significant performance issues. A+ for this shop. Great looking car.
As recent Ferrari (430 Scuderia) owner, I really enjoyed this video - great work to AV and you Sam!
I think it's funny when people come in here just to announce their purchases. No one cares.
Need more mechanics like this, jesus, so detailed and so truthful.
I took a 3 year old car to KwikFit for a puncture and left with them telling me I need a full break system bleed, new pads and discs.
To buy a Ferrari is allways an adventure - an exiting one!!
So excited about this channel, Sam. Can't wait for next years adventures and this 360 saga highly interests me as well. Keep them coming!
The joys of modern classic motoring! I think the biggest thing to take away from this is, a competent mechanic is worth his weight in gold. AV Engineering look absolutely spot on!! Sounds like a warranty was a damn good idea.
Fascinating...he knows his stuff!!! Top bloke, attention to detail and he had it! 👌
Thank you. The maintenance on my 2000 Jaguar XKR now seems absolutely reasonable and economical. 😉
Keep up the good work. Do enjoy your videos and am looking forward to your around the world adventure.
This is a great video on the reality of Ferrari ownership. Who would have thought such an expensive car could be engineered so poorly? It is as if some hobbyist was assembling them in his backyard, after giving zero thought to maintainability - thus requiring people like AV Engineering, with advanced knowledge and skill, just to keep the car safe and functional. Ferrari just comes off as a clown show. The cars are beautiful in their own right, but they might as well be constructed from granulated sugar.
Performance car dealers sell so few cars they have made always made their income not from selling the actual cars but on the maintenance/servicing costs. As to the fragile nature, the 288 GTO had a set of metal pipes feeding off the turbos that were linked to the engine management system. I was at a track day very soon after they were launched and the pipes were bursting at track speed. Luckily as it was at Donington Park the nearby local dealer, Graypaul, had a van shuttle service running all day, between the dealership and the circuit bringing replacement copper pipes with more robust brazed connectors. That was in the days when the Bishops ran Graypaul, I'm not sure Sytner would give the same service today...
They are engineered with performance and weight in mind under the guise of being "racing spec." Parts in racing cars are replaced after every race so longevity is a moot point. If they wanted to source more reliable parts, they could. Owners don't seem to care.
Great to see cars like your 360 being used and not just polished at weekends or taken for a lap of Harrods with the usual melts!
Hey, the 360s now are a 19 year old car. Of course things wear.
If you can, it makes more financial sense to buy several classic Ferrari's & drive them in rotation.
Fantastic video. Really enjoyed it. Bet the car feels so much nicer and even more special after all that work 👍🏼😍
Wow..that inlet manifoldgasket find was a greaat discovery.And pretty strange it was not fitted correctly.Very nice video ..and a lovely walkthrough by the Tech/mechanic.Greetings from Norway,Stefan
Man, I'm glad you've sorted out the engine light issue. That was the most important part. The rest? Well, I'm actually shocked to see the number of parts failing on such a low mileage car.
The four most expensive words you can hear in car ownership are "while you're in there...."
As a mechanic I love these videos. It shows the true ownership of high end vehicles
Damn, I wish everyday mechanics were as thorough and knowledgeable as this guy!
Awesome.....Practically a new car! Have fun!
Excellent video as always of the joys & perils of owning a thoroughbred Ferrari. Reaffirms my views that they are very finicky, highly strung & high maintenance, even more so if not used. Not a practical car to own & really more suited for track days.
Very important to use the aircon weekly, even during winter, with the heater on to keep the seals lubricated.
Even more important to have an excellent independent Ferrari specialist (not a dealership) that knows the car inside & out such as yours.
Great to see the 360 being well looked after by AV ! interesting vid Sam.
Fair play to this guy. Very smart in his subject and a smart businessman.
Even if you have the money for parts and labour, you still have to deal with the inconvenience. Some parts can take weeks to arrive, and that is time you are not driving it.
Good video Sam. Lots of us are technically minded so the detail was appreciated. More of this please.
It's OK doing videos like this but you need to be honest about it. Your headline was"Thank God I had a warranty!" but other than some individual costs, I notice you did not mention hourly labour rate?,you did not give details of total cost and amount saved by the warranty. If you do not want to be open about costs why do the video?
Like so many others want to know - the total cost of the repairs, and the cost of your warranty? Why don't you mention those important points - THE point of this video.
James May sent me here
The kind of garage you know you can trust!
Luxury cars, luxury prices! One needs deep pockets to run cars of this ilk. Good job you had the warranty.
It's a FERRARI!!! All normal items and issues. I'm a trained FERRARI technician and its just a day in a life with such a car. Top mechanic on the video seriously no BS here. My father had a very rare F355 and lucky as i know my stuff we had not one issue with it for years.
Didn’t you buy the car from AV Engineering? How many of these ‘faults’ already existed when you bought the car!? 🤔 Good business model for them. Sell a car that has high maintenance costs and flog a third party warranty with the car. Guaranteed work for them 👍
The gasket for sure. The rest, they can say that those things can happen over the course of the past year.
Mmm I think if they were bit more thorough checking it over before Sam bought it I’m sure some of those issues would have been picked up.........
At least I’m not the only one that thought that, there acting like they’ve done sam a massive favour when really they could of been done in the first place
Must agree with the others the ball joints should’ve been done when you bought it as well as the gasket and the hose, they need to show some goodwill, they knew the problems were there from sale, classic car dealer ruse.
Completely agree
I drove one of these on a track day. One of those red letter days things. Wife bought me it for 40th. Great to thrash it round a track. You can't use these sort of cars on public roads to their full potential.
I'm not into old cars per se, because of the running expenses and the fact that the components have already exceeded their service life, but the Ferrari cars are nice to tool around in. I'm just glad I don't own one. I like looking at them from afar.
Friend used to be a mechanic at Lancaster's Ferrari Colchester . probably 10 years ago
and only used to take home £1500 a month , Main dealer labour costs or specialist independents
are exorbitant £120 plus vat hour plus 100% markup on parts ! I
Prime example of why a good aftermarket warranty is a good idea. But always research the warranty. I bought one without checking it out, and it was $4000 wasted. Anyway, great video, Sam. Cheers!
Exactly. Its the same with all Agreements. Always read the Agreements carefully if its an important affair, or when in doubt! 👍
Sam I like how you are comical and enthusiatic about car world. I hope your channel grow faster!
That was more work than an annual service. I don't understand why they didn't just replace the seal for the AC compressor instead of the whole unit?
That’s a top bloke! Love the way he explains everything. Seems very knowledgeable :)
Ouch, servicing is always fun...😬Good to see you’re taking good care of her though Sam!! Love watching you mate!
Super interesting video Sam if I ever get to own a prestigious car AV are the first place I'll go for maintenance!
Wow your shirt matches the garage door perfectly
Really enjoyed this video - learned a lot! Would be fun to see a series where your man from AV shares more cool auto maintenance insights 🤓
Just goes to show that when they ask if you want additional warranty, it is always worth while to take up the offer! Hopefully she will run like a dream now! Amazing video Sam 😊
Great video, very insightful to the maintenance of a classic Ferrari.
Thank James may
Your mechanics are class!
That mechanic is sharp ! I need somebody like that !
Skills of such technicians still blow my mind
Yet another excellent video. Keep it up, Sam! 👏🏼
"rattle free". Love it. Great teacher there.
Nice to see the Ferrari back on the channel 👍
Great video, I enjoy the detailed technical stuff... so right up my street
I think those issues already existed. That would be the hard push for the warranty. I'm guessing since it's a Ferrari is why things like the air con, and labor on other things were covered. Usually, those aftermarket warranties don't cover shit and are essentially a scam. They get you to fork out the cash for the warranty, something mechanical fails on the car, the warranty company finds a reason not to cover it, or they cover it after you pay your deductible ( which is usually 75 to 80% the total cost for the work.) and you still pay out of pocket.
I drive a Toyota Aygo... 10000 Euro …. 8 years old… never had this type of discussions with my mechanic… I don't think I'm jealous :) With just the sound on, I would swear this discussion is taking place in a Lada garage :)
Thanks for the interesting video. Since I bought my 360 in April I am without problems 👍🏽🤞🏾
I'm currently looking into 360 ownership and found this video very helpful, enlightening and valuable as to what questions can be asked and checked during a pre purchase inspection. I know that Aldous also has an excellent reputation and is one of the best and most honest indy specialists in the UK. After so much good, open and honest information here about the job list and prices as well as mentioning the warranty so many times, especially as the word 'warranty' forms part of the title for gods sake, then it just makes no sense to mask the cost of the warranty. This would be so useful for me to understand as I look at getting into a 360. For that reason I have not hit the 'like' button.
991.1 for drive the world!!!!
Keep the 360 content coming! Love that car.
Thats whats nice about buying a new Ferrari, 7 years free maintenance.
RJAVD indeed but the finance involved will make most of our eyes water 😁
Shout out to legit diagnosticians! Pictures and everything!
i would imagine that garage charges around 95 pounds per hour plus 20% VAT (Tax). If you want a Ferrari for less than 100k then go for a classic 1970s 308, they don't have a computer or electronics, the mechanicals are simple and easy to maintain and compared to modern Ferraris you can do most servicing and belt changes and water pump replacement with the engine in the car. I've owned a 308 for more than 20 years and I bought it when you could buy them for 19k pounds, my car is worth around 85k now, I am not wealthy and I couldn't afford to buy it at todays prices but I keep it on the road by doing the basics myself, engine oil, filters and plugs is easy job in the driveway, and I use a non specialist small local garage who charge 40 pounds per hour for labour and I source the parts myself. Also when you mention the F word many suppliers and workshops add on a few zeros to their quotes, I'll give you an example from my own experience, my rear brake callipers needed rebuilt, the cheapest quote I was getting from companies in England to rebuild rear callipers on a Ferrari 308 was 600 plus tax and the priciest quote was well over one thousand pounds, in the end my local mechanic in Scotland said he would send them to the same place in Glasgow that he sent callipers from bog standard saloon cars., the rebuild shop phoned to say that the seals and pistons were all easily available standard ATE branded parts and that rebuilding them would be easy....and cheap, 110 pounds per side.....thats around one thousand less than if I had sent the to a so called specialist near London. As I said, the F word quite often adds a premium for no particular reason is what I have learned.
Great feedback.
Clutch Warranty issues are usually debated Fiercely and you are very fortunate they found in your favour..
what an INTERESTING video, you should have THAT mechanic in ALL your videos !!!!!!!!
Thank you STG for this very informative video.
I watch all your vids Sam and wondered whether this was going to be as good as some of your others, but this was really informative. Simple effective explanation from the mechanic (Alders? I don't know how to spell his name smh lol) on what each part does and why it was bad if one of them had an issue. Learnt alot watching this and am starting to see why to go to AV for this kind of thing. These guys know there stuff! Would've been nice to know what the total figure was and how much the warranty covered, seems like most of it was covered by the policy which is a good thing.
I'd like to see a video of you driving it to see if you notice some of the repairs done, like how the transmission engages now, see how good the a/c is and if you notice a difference in steering from the ball joints being replaced