I married a girl who dated me for3 years before i had any money. then i became a millionaire after we got married and she cheated and we got a divorce😂 she wanted some money
@DaishaView you clearly underestimate how devious and wretched women are. Just cuz she was with him before he had anything does not make her entitled to his shit. Furthermore being with someone prior to his wealth acquisition does not mean that they helped significantly.
@@michaelpalumbo4880 very likely the girlfriend has never heard him say these things, he's probably been stringing her along. He doesn't even know how to be honest with himself much less be able to communicate to her.
Possibly a narcissist. They are selfish people, self-centered, and refer to everything as ‘My’. And more so, they use other people, like he seems to be doing to his ‘girlfriend’
Prenups get such a bad rap. I"m glad John momentarily stuck up for them. The problem with blanket advice here. . .maybe he has obligations beyond himself and her. He didn't indicate it. . .but maybe he has a company and has employees and they can't work for Mrs. New wife if they divorce. Now you have (x) employees lives disrupted (or even ruined). He has obligations to his girls. Bad prenups are thrown out, not reasonable ones. Yeah, if he says "I get everything and you get nothing" that will be thrown out. My wife and I have a prenup and we've forgotten we even have it. Because life is more than just about us and our marriage. It's selfish and impulsve to think otherwise.
@@cstuartdc They get challenged all the time. They do rarely get thrown out by a judge, but it does happen. Sometimes something was written incorrectly or unfairly in the prenup, or sometimes the judge will just willy-nilly throw it out because he/she feels like it. Divorce court really is a mess. Prenups are not trash, but they're not 100% secure either. The real issue is money needs to be taken out of divorce law. Some lawyers will look at people's net worth to see if it is beneficial to drag out legal proceedings to accumulate a bigger paycheck. Especially if one spouse is resentful, the lawyer will tell them to accuse the other of abusing the kids and they'll milk the spouse with a lot of the money dry before they stop. We really need to remove financial incentive for lawyers to ruin people's lives in family court.
@@Aubatron POINT: Prenups are not trash, but they're not 100% secure either. COUNTERPOINT: Well. . .what is? A savings account? Well, the principal is 100% secure under 250K, but it's subject to inflation risk. A prenup is a way to MANAGE risk, not eliminate it. And by crapping on this [potential] partnership, he is passing up what every accountant knows. . .put 2 solo businessman next to each other and they'll earn 100K each.. . but if they form a partnership successfully, they'll make 300K. It's a 1+1=3 thing that goes beyond sharing expenses. Here's the thing. . .lets say my wife decides to boink the entire NY Yankees and we get a divorce. . .becasue of 1+1+3. . .I know I'll be further ahead had we just never partnered up.
@@andrewbradley3305He said she works hard. He is using her and stringing her along. The guy can't even think past himself so he should just marry himself but he is so wrong for using her as a support system and somethingbto be used and also wasting her time. He is dishonest to her.
Yes, but the girl does not need this individual to make her life choices. She needs to be the one to decide what she is going to do. In this situation it would be healthy behaviour if she told him that she is leaving.
I can't stand when people string others along in a relationship. You are not a good person if you date someone, that you know wants to get married, for SEVEN years, and don't tell them you have no intention of doing so. If you don't want to get married, tell her and let her decide if she wants to stay in the relationship. The audacity at being upset she won't move cross country for someone that doesn't even want to marry her is crazy.
Let’s be honest, he must of used her for her motherly instincts too. I bet he LOVED having her involved with the kids and helping take care of em, man trusts her with his kids but not his money 😬🤯
Agree he's wrong for stringing her along for 7 years. However she is also wrong for not having the courage to leave earlier. The other problem is that family court laws are broken and make marriage too risky for many people. People idealize marriage too much and are willfully blind to this reality. A societies marriage laws should incentivize long term commitment and family formation. The problem with American family law is that it gives way too much power to the state to intervene in people's lives. If you research the history of marriage in America you'll learn that this is by design
Dude, let her go. You don't love her. She was by your side when you were broke and had a bunch of little kids. You werent a prize and yet she stayed. You dont owe her your life but you do owe her being honest with your feelings and what you really want for your life, which doesnt include her.
It’s not about Love. Marriage is the only contract where the woman is incentivized to break it. You were obviously not listening to this guy’s fears. This is the hesitancy of most modern day men, especially when you’re talking marriage and no kids are involved. Why pay for the cow, when the milk for free. Marriage and family court laws need to be more equal, many blue pill people just don’t get it.
@@dynamicwellness33dude still owes it to her to be honest so she can stop wasting her time with him and so he can go move to Texas and travel like he wants. He's not doing either of them any favors by stringing her along. He already knows what he wants, and it isn't her.
I feel bad for this woman. She is his friend with benefit for 7 years without knowing about it. Let her go, dude! She missed so many chances to find a better (and maybe a wealthier) guy than you.
@@steveabrams4314 1.2 million in net worth is not rich where I am from and most men have at least that by age 50 and I live in a pretty middle class area.
Once he marries her, she's statistically likely to divorce him. Many women plan to leave before ever getting married. I wonder the red flags she's displaying to give him pause.
@@texan903 I’m wondering if he observed how she handles money overtime. You can tell someone doesn’t handle money well based off what people say to you. People say stuff that gives clues about their finances.
no, hes just wise and she is trying to say "get that government contract that entitles me to 50% of your stuff or i wont move with you". she is the coercive one that is threatening leaving unless they get a government contract binding his finances to her...
@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem No. He's selfish. The wealth is not an issue. He can put the money in an LLC/ trust and get a prenup. Listen again. He said that the house is gonna be crowded. He just wants a live in maid/ bed warmer, but doesn't want to give in to her wishes. I know someone like that. Married 3 times and it's always an issue. He has to remind everyone and his wife how much money he has, but is too greedy to buy his wife a pair of shoes.
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem Exactly, I will never get married again either. I rather be single that ever deal with a court system or judges or lawyers again
yeah in modern times marriage is just dumb, maybe it was a worthy concept in the 50's or so but not now, its different times.@@westcoast5681 now its just a 50/50 gamble of losing 50% of your money for no gain for the risk. any casino offering odds like that would never get any players "welcome to the clown casino, would you like to take a 50/50 chance of losing 50% of your money for $0 if you win" lol
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problemwhere in the call did you get this bs from? He literally she wants to get married, if he doesn’t want to he should break up with her. Simple. You just wrote a bunch of nonsense. 😭😂😂😂.
I disagree. This is the kind of guy that WAS great husband material and a woman burned him down to the core (then they cry about where are the good man lol) But I also agree he should stay single; he will have plenty of options out there with no compromises that burn him down again
Yep. He thinks he's wealthy at $1.2 million (that includes his business gross and his house). He's a clown. He sounds like the type that gets in trouble with the IRS for a dodgy tax scheme.
I love how he says he “feels led to move” to a different state. And how she “does not unless she is married.” Yeah… you phrasing it as being “led” to the decision doesn’t make it righteous and more important than her feelings. And OF COURSE she doesn’t want to uproot her life unless you are serious about being with her (aka marriage)! That is a huge decision!!
He wasted 9 minutes of their time and 7 years of his girlfriend's. This guy comes across as being so self consumed that it's crazy. If he truly loved this woman he would be looking forward to sharing things with her and making her happy. Instead, he can only think of himself. I hope my sons and daughters don't end up with people like this. My wife is the single greatest thing to ever happen to me.
Sure but that’s your experience. This guy already got divorced once and we don’t know his dating history prior to that marriage. Some people have extreme trust issues and abandonment issues. Perhaps you don’t know what that’s like. You can’t judge him when you don’t have the full picture.
I@@Eric_Bassett I can see your point.He is certainly entitled to feel the way that he feels. If he is being up front with her about those feelings so be it. If he has been stringing her along for seven years, then that is what I would take exception with.
Ugh. I dated a guy just like this. Didn’t want to give me any credit (even though we had a business together) didn’t seem to trust me (even though I never gave him a reason not to) and always treated the relationship like it was going to fail at some point in the future. It was the worst to be treated like that. But he never wanted to break up with me either. Like he hated me, but he wanted me around. He even told once “I don’t like telling you when you look nice bc I don’t want you to get a big head.” Like really, dude?! I was young and stupid and stuck around with him longer than I care to admit, but looking back on that in hindsight makes me sick.
Wow. So glad you got out of that. You should have love, affection, compliments, attention, and appreciation lavished on you. Not doled out in dried up morsels by some stingy miser.
That’s a really high net worth most peoples net worth are in the negative most people live paycheck to paycheck. Most people live like that they hate. Salute to this guy making his dreams come true.
I know right, he's in his 40s so that's not super amazing or anything. I will bet you that she helped in a lot of unseen ways with building that wealth too but he won't acknowledge that
I wouldn’t get married with how unfair the court system is towards men and how most women will take a man’s money through divorce, alimony, and child support, and most women aren’t even feminine anymore so they aren’t worth the risk.
This is why we all need to have our own little pot of cash on the side and have a hobby that will bring us money if need be we have to go back into the job market bc guys get bored when the “rock” is a homebody and they want to go drink and f*ck the next cute little thing it’s disgusting .
That's a lie. Women pay alimony and child support. They just don't make as much noise about paying it as men. A lot of wealthy women have had to deal with this so stop the narrative already. Besides you can't blame someone for filing for a divorce when the marriage is terrible and consistently so.@@jragon9215
I married a man like this and he hid his money, cheated on me and never let me "in" to his accounts or became a "team" in any respect. This is a nightmare and he should let her GO.
Sorry you went through that Kim. Glad you’re out! Hope you were able to heal from that. It’s another level of deception. I don’t understand how some people walk around without a conscience
thats because we as men would be a team in all regards but dont touch our fucking money if you never worked for them. best we can do is have a common account in which we put the same amount, but thats it. our money is worth as much as our lives.
He doesn't want to make a life with her. He made that clear over and over again. I feel bad for her that she wasted seven years on this guy. I'm glad John finally told him to cut to the chase because I was going numb listening to him drone on and on and ON. The fact that she said she won't move to Tennessee with him unless he marries her tells me she is tired of being strung along and she wants him put up or shut up.
While he was building the business, she probably took care of the household, raised his kids and hers, got seven years older, and now he's looking for a younger woman. Thats what I'm hearing. What a shame.
7 freaking years and THIS is what he really thinks of her?? Wow. I pray to the good Lord above that she hears this and frees herself from this impending disaster. She deserves someone who thinks the sun rises and sets on her and can have mutual respect and admiration for one another. Not this dumpster fire of a narcissistic time waster.
I dated a guy like this. He wanted to get married and he wanted a prenuptial. I told him that I was more than happy to sign one, especially because I never wanted him to feel like I was after his money. His response? "Good, because you're not getting any of it." People who are that suspicious and jaded deserve to be single. The kicker was that I was also independently wealthy and self sufficient, but there was nothing that could convince him that I wasn't out for his money, solely because I was a woman.
Men like that are disgusting. They think that all women are untrustworthy because of stupid assumptions based on their fears and phobias. It doesn't help that some men are predisposed to believing in anything they read that aligns with their fears.
This caller was beating around the bush every time they asked about his girlfriend, even when they asked him a pointed question. He didn’t seem to want to express anything about her character, good or bad. If I were in her shoes, I’d get out of that relationship asap! He’s not giving her any value.
When he said "In business you have to work on yourself as much as the business." That tells me maybe he thinks he is out of her league. She maybe doesn't project the right trophy wife thing he requires now that he is Mr. Big Bucks.
He has two kids, and she has two kids. He said they where almost grown now, so for seven years she has helped him raise his kids while he was building a successful business. I feel like Dave would have caught that and asked about it. I want to know how much of the house work he did? Did he come home and work with his kids on there home work? He built the business while they where together. Could he have done it as a single father? And maybe it's a non issue. Maybe his kids mom takes them most of the time. We are missing a lot of context.
Listening to this man drone on and on reminds me of how blessed I am to have my husband. He doesn't have anywhere near $1.2M, but he works his a$$ off to give me everything. He would give me everything he has without any thoughts of what's "his". He is the best man I have ever met and I'm so very honored to call him my husband. Maybe one day this guy will get a clue and realize the cost of his selfishness.
Good for you! But I will brag about my brothers who are both a lot wealthier than this narcissist and very liquid unlike this caller. They shared their wealth with their wives, who are also good with money. My younger brother even lets his wife handle all money matters since they are both on the same page. And both are still married to their wives (for decades).
@@yasminogbu8929 Yes, they do. And I am going to brag about my brothers and their marriage since this caller bragged about his so-called net worth that includes his house. My brothers have more money in the bank and properties than this caller even though they work as professionals in their fields of expertise and are not businessmen, esp my younger brother. This caller is not really as wealthy as others think. His net worth is just a house in other states. My brothers are Christians who are married to Christian women who actually follow the bible about respecting their husbands as well. Marriage is not only about compromise but more about sharing the same values and goals in life so the usual marital squabbles are reduced to minor issues (e.g. where to go on vacation, what degrees the kids need to take in uni (thank God, all STEM degrees, etc). And both husband and wife should work as a team which is a breeze when both share common interests, values, and goals in life. That is why my brothers are still married to the women they married when they were younger. And they picked their wives well before marriage based on the more important criteria (not just looks). The problem with a lot of marriages today is the lost of truly Christian values and the ME first on both sides because more often than not the couple do not share the same values and goals in life so both think that their interests are not being considered by the other.
He makes it sound like he's soooo wealthy. My net worth is in the same range as this guy, and I don't consider myself wealthy. Same deal - no debt. He's a bit full of himself, really.
@@blackbutterfly233ify not like he made it be. Is not that much wealth. Especially when you are self employed and selfish like he is. I hope she dumps his sorry behind and he will see how good the dating pool is out there. Such a douche… also that woman, after 5 yrs you see the changes, for sure he was not doing well even before so why stay and beg to get married with such a difficult and double minded person?😑😑😑
@@Eric_Bassett His capacity - or lack thereof - to even reflect for a moment that he wants all the upside of being attached to another human being without any of the down. It's an entirely one-sided arrangement - he said himself that his partner wanted to get married, but briskly dismissed it on, repeatedly on grounds of how it would affect "him", "me", or "I". John was right, never once did he mention the two of them as a unit.
which is totally fine and understandable. he has been caring for her for 7 years without issue, why does a government contract need to be involved? she is coercing him to get married or else she will leave, how is he the one in the wrong? why should he risk 50% of his networth when things have been going fine for the last 7 years without a government contract that lets men with guns come and take his money if she decides she wants it? have some objectivity lol
how so? its a mutually beneficial relationship... imagine thinking housework and sex is such a hard life while men go and die in the Lumber fields, the Coal mines, on fishing ships, in war etc, or even if its a safe job working 12 hours a day... get a grip dude. he may trust her today but nobody knows who a person will be 1-2-3-4-5 etc years from now, for all we know she could be playing the long con, or she could get dementia and become crazy and want to divorce him, or get hit by a bus tomorrow and her kids get 50%. 50% of first time marriages end in divorce, 70% of second time marriages end in divorce which would be his 2nd marriage. you're here on the dave Ramsey channel yet you think its wise for him to take a 70% gamble on losing 50% of his networth for what gain? nobody is their right mind would risk 50% of their networth for 0$ at the casino.@@georgewagner7787 why should any man or women sign a government contract as a sign of love? it is totally illogical to get the government involved in any relationship.
This was an incredibly frustrating call. This guy needs individual therapy or coaching; throughout the call, it sounded like he was expressing these thoughts verbally for the very first time and consequently they weren't coming across as he intended.
He’s scarred from the pain of his last divorce. He didn’t lose money, but it was clearly very painful. I bet he feels like if he did have money last time he’d have lost his money along with everything else. He’s not over his baggage.
He's too selfish and she deserves SOOO much better. Were it me, I would not let a relationship last this long without a wedding ring. It's been a huge waste of her time, unfortunately.
Broke up with a girl I had been dating for about a year when she started talking about marriage. I was sad and lonely because I didn’t want to lose her but couldn’t see myself marrying her. The thought of leading her on just seemed wrong. Met my current wife a few months later and never had those same doubts when the topic of marriage came up. We will celebrate 20 years this April.
So interesting. So glad you let her go! Good for you! And it paid off. Something intuitively told you it wasn’t right. Wish more people were honest with themselves & others around them. Less time wasted
All he is saying is he doesn't want to share his money with her. He wants it to himself. Which is fine but since marriage involves sharing and compromise, it's just not for him.
Dan, if she had any self respect, she would have left you at year 2. You're getting it for free and you don't actually know what you want. She should not be trusting you.
Sure but he holds all the cards ? How many women who married bums complain about their lives ? She doesn’t have the ring but it definitely sounds like she’s in a comfortable place being with this guy lifestyle wise. If she were to leave she’d be starting from scratch and probably isn’t willing to do that. This guy has no debt and money in the bank. There’s no guarantee the grass would be greener on the other side. It’s often not. Especially in economical times such as these.
Exactly. He’s a narcissistic jackass. And she needs healing and real love in her life. He had a committed partner who probably loves him and helped him to succeed (at the very very least did not hold him back)- what a fool. She probably didn’t know until now that she had a very very uncommitted, ungrateful, and incredibly narcissistic partner who does not appreciate anything she’s contributed for 7 gd years nor bothers to express his love for her (if he even loves her). She needs to heal from something and develop better boundaries so selfish losers cannot take advantage again.
Take the opposite side of this: she should be wary of marrying a guy who speaks about me, myself and I when it comes to his money, his business, his, house, his travel plans and his feelings. He's not ready because he's insular in everything. He called wanting justification for his preference for the status quo and not marrying her. He should have admitted that, she's fine in every way, I just don't want to marry her.
There is no upside for men in marriage anymore. I reached the point where there was nothing that any woman was going to bring into my life that was going to make it significantly better.
Those of us who know both of these people have known for SEVEN years she’s too good for him. So glad you’ve amassed this supposed fortune selling car parts on eBay out of your basement Dan. However, she works hard and has mothered your special needs daughters for SEVEN years while being treated like crap by you and your parents. I’m so thankful you called this show and gave her what she needed to turn her back on your emotionally abusive bullshit. Your narcissism knows no bounds. Enjoy all that traveling -alone.
I was married to this man I'm not going to trashing Jackie or Dan but I was alienated from my daughter's and left with absolutely zero money and replaced
emotionally abusive, I picked up on that. The reason he won't marry her isn't because he's afraid of losing his money or his business. It's because it's a power tactic to make sure she knows her place. He enjoys pretending that he's doing her some sort of giant favor.
I figured she was raising his kids for him. It was clear he devalued everything she contributed. Then to find he was working out of his basement. Sheeesh.
Yaass!! The truth!! In any relationship it is ideal to discuss and document how to move forward if something goes wrong while yhings are going well...People tend to think and act more emotionally than practically during breakups...
Some men don't realize that a supportive woman's company is what gives them the energy to achieve. In a lot of cases, they probably couldn't achieve so much before that woman. And after she's gone, they'll go back to their mediocre levels and not achieve much. But they think they achieved it all themselves and give the woman no credit at all.
yea, so they should just hire a maid, a chef, and a hooker, and stop wasting time with women and having to lose a percentage (usually half) of the business for a basic hole.
Jacki, First and foremost, I want you to know how amazing you are. You've supported him and everyone around you, and your kindness knows no bounds. Your worth isn't determined by his income or anyone else's. It's about who you are as a person, and you're incredible. Don't let his doubts make you question yourself. You deserve someone who appreciates and values you for the loving and caring person you are. And remember, you've got friends who have your back, including me.
My guy and I have been together over 8 years. He started a business a few years ago that is barely making it but I believe in him enough that I’ve taken on a big portion of our bills and other expenses over the past few years and made many sacrifices so he can continue to work towards his dream. I’d be so upset if he finally became successful and started talking like the success of the business was all his doing. This guys a nightmare. He was with this woman before he became successful and now he’s acting like she’s a gold digger or something.
You should get married whether or not he becomes successful because you are already making the sacrifices that only a *fully* committed partner should make. If you don’t fully believe in him you shouldn’t make those sacrifices, but you could stick around without doing so if you choose. If you do believe in him, then get married and make them. Being unmarried and making sacrifices only gives him the option of one day deciding (if he becomes successful) whether you will benefit from the sacrifices *you made* or not. Don’t put yourself in that position. And it’s been 8 years. You’re already in deep.
You've sacrificed your bill money to help invest in your boyfriend's dream, which wasn't a very smart thing to do. Your bills should be your first priority to pay than anything else, instead the money going towards somebody's else's dream. What are you going to do when the utilities are shut off, and the rent or mortgage is delinquent, and have to vacate? You don't want to be out on the street.
@@slimdude2011 we’ve lived together for several years so I’m just saying I’ve covered most of our mutual expenses not just his. Just in the past few months the tables have kinda turned and he’s bringing in a bit more than me so now he’s covering our house, utilities, and car insurance and now I’m just paying for groceries, phones, expenses for the kids (school clothes etc) and entertainment like hulu, netflix etc. His business still isn’t successful but it’s bringing in just enough for us to get by month to month when combined with my income. He could be making significantly more money if he just got a regular job but we both believe in the business and have been making sacrifices to get it up and running.
@@GoJojo-lv6zi ya I know we need to get married. We already own property together and financially our lives are very intertwined. We both want to get married but we’ve been so busy trying to pull ourselves out of the mud and get property that it’s just gotten pushed to the back burner. We already bought our rings and everything. We’ve honestly just been procrastinating because we’re so focused on other things.
@@mamadoom9724 I don’t buy that, sorry. You haven’t been procrastinating on getting married for 7 years. You can just go get a marriage certificate & have a ceremony later. The deeds you’re signing and everything else carry just as much weight and you had time for those. I don’t buy it. It’s silly to not make it official after so long and a life that is already deeply intertwined. It’s silly and those aren’t good reasons.
"Don't drag her behind the car of your life" Thanks, John! that's exactly it. The caller has no interest in compromising HIS vision. His fiancee is not his partner, she's an add-on who is seen as making trouble for him.
There is nothing more painful than being in a relationship with someone who truly doesn’t love you. I know because I’ve been in her shoes. Man up and set her free.
a man can truly love you but not trust you with his money. for us, our money are worth as much as our lives. i love my money more than i love myself, so bold of you to assume you'd be over that.
@joe, don’t think you herd the full video, he’s a single dad too! They are both bringing kids into the relationship. Plenty of amazing parents out there, that have come out of past relationships that find each other. Life isn’t for suffering in silence 😂 not everyone is petrified of being alone. Alone doesn’t mean lovely to many of us. Sounds like you need Sone inner work love
This is why you don't play house. She definitely helped with building his wealth whether he will acknowledge that or not, and now she won't get a cent when they break up.
This comment shows exactly why he doesnt wanna get married again. Woman works for something but has a bf: it was all her; man works for something but has a gf: she mustve helped.
They've been together seven years and "he's" become wealthy in the last five? No sir you have not become wealthy on your own, you did it with this woman by your side. You're just not in love anymore and want someone to give you an excuse to be chasing trophy girls.
As he should. The only one looking out for him is himself. It certainly won't be the preacher, or the judge, or the army of state henchmen used to clean him out.
as he should. money are worth so much more than a woman, should never trust her with anything. for a man, the money he has are worth as much as his life.
He doesn't see the value in a life partner and only views her as a burden. I feel so bad for her, I went through that with my boyfriend and I do work hard and earn my own money. My boyfriend thought it was ok for his adult daughter to be rude to me and I was not invited to parties that he hosted at his home when his former family would be there. So I walked away after 10 years.
It doesn’t really matter if he built the wealth separately. If they get married then it is THEIR wealth. That’s how marriage works. If you can’t share your resources, emotions, life-everything-then you shouldn’t get married. That’s ok, maybe marriage isn’t for you. However, it’s insane that anyone would even consider getting married while attempting to keep their things separate. If you can’t trust or share all that you are-then don’t get married. That type of relationship will only end poorly.
Just do your own thing, dude. Call it quits and go live your amazing life exactly as YOU want to without a "ball and chain". Holy shit this was painful. I hope his girlfriend hears this call and realizes her relationship has zero future.
i never met a woman who had $1000 in her name. Not a single one, ever. 1.2 mil can buy you a fucking mansion in scandinavia. You have a case of the tiktok brain.
@@MrClassicmetalif you listen wuth your ears, you'd hear himckarufy that it wasnt his furst wife but his parents relationship that brought on the trust issues
How many years is it before "Common Law Marriage" kicks in for this guy? THIS is why people shouldn't shack up. She flushed seven years of her life down the drain for a guy who used her as a free, live-in nanny for his kids.
And if he had gotten married and she decided to leave he would have wasted probably twice as long, as it would take time to build up everything she'd take plus alimony and child support.
My husband and I didn’t have any debt when we met each other, but we didn’t have anything of our own either. We built a beautiful home and family together. It’s a wonderful feeling… 🥰🥰🥰 We’re not wealthy and we’ll likely never be. The wealth we seek to leave our children with is the wealth of faith and knowledge. I’d rather spend money buying several 13 volume encyclopedias from 1930/1960/1990 among other books from Thomas Harding, to Lord Byron, Machado de Assis, Luís de Camões…
Wow...the headline makes it sound like the girlfriend is the a-hole but it turns out it's the caller who is the a-hole. This guy just needs to be alone because that's what selfish people deserve.
@@shimmeringchimps3842 lol yea him and millions of other men and women. But realistically, people with issues will always be the majority of the dating market. Most people.. are in some way broken or in the process of being broken when it comes to love and romance.
You obviously don’t understand how the family courts work and how marriage contract is the only contract a woman is incentivized to Brake. Especially when there are no kids involved, how does this guy’s life get any better with her by marrying her? The risk in this situation is only shared on one side of the equation.
Despise men like this. Just wasting a woman's life. Go find who you would marry and leave her alone so she can be with someone who wants a future with her.
I agree with those two. When you truly love somebody, you don't care about what obstacles are in your way. That gentlemen was making excuse, after excuse, after excuse why he doesn't want to marry her. Let her go, brother!
You can be in a relationship without being married... he doesn't have to "let her go" either. She is free to leave. He is simply protecting himself from an extremely bias divorce court system.
I think he simply doesn't love her, it was just convenient that she was there when he needed her, and he spoke of it in his terms, sad I didn't get much of this episode except some like to brag about themselves and make it public
I think you hit the nail on the head. This guy just wanted to flex. He already knows he's too selfish to be married so he just called to brag about how hard he has worked and how successful he's been.
The girlfriend was his mistress because, he was involved with her when he got divorced seven years ago, he's been with her for seven years, and probably during the time while he was still married. So therefore, she was dating a married man. He's not going to marry her (and never had any intentions to) because he already got what he wanted out of her and surely, he's not going to give her any of his money. He already made that perfectly clear! I blame her for this situation because, she shouldn't had got in a relationship with a married man in the first place. She's suffering the consequences of being used for seven years, and not getting married to this man like she thought. Just like any other mistress that were told the same lies, thinking the man is going to marry them after leaving his wife.
Well, I don't consider him wealthy and I can brag more about the wealth of my brothers. This guy is not even liquid and his whole net worth is peanuts since he included his own house. I laughed hard when I heard the amount because hearing him talk, I was expecting a higher amount, not necessarily a Bill Gates level, but not a mere 1.2 million, which is
@@unfairsanic5089 actually you should listen to them and learn from their mistakes! There's more lessons in the bad stories (what to watch out for) than the good stories.
@@MrClassicmetal my logic is she won't want anymore! I'm not doing the baby stuff again, already a 3-time dad. Done with that diapers and strollers and sleepless nights BS.
I wish he would have talked more about what she did for a living and what she brought to the table. He strikes me as someone who thinks he built this business by himself while not acknowledging one bit of what she has done for him and his business. He’s going to end up moving without her and his business and life are going to fall apart.
I despise 'bait and switch' captions, yet you always accurately reflect the conversation's content. Thank you! It always astonishes me how individuals can be oblivious to their own words. This gentleman seems deaf to his own language, even amidst your resounding advice.
He doesn't like the answer he is getting so keeps trying to adjust his answers to be right. She deserves better. He thinks of himself as very superior.
I said the same thing “Break Up with her, because, I don’t think she, realize how miserable she’s gonna be, if she continue on with him, it in his Voice, you two are on Two different pages. No one should stand on the Sidelines of their Adult Life, this guy will definitely keep her as a sideline, even in Marriage..
I feel like at least 50% of the callers don't need financial advice. They need a therapist to address and fix underlying problems that may get in the way of good money habits.
If she wants to get married and youre not being honest about not wanting to get married thats just awful. Be honest & upfront about what you want and if you cant give each other the things you need, part ways. Its frankly really simple. Also, women, get yourselves a fantastic careeer. It does wonders for your confidence and youll find yourself a brilliant partner who's going to be your equal in everything. Its sooooo healthy and freeing!
Such a down inflection in his voice when he speaks of her. I need… My house… Split goals. 6 people she has taken care of something for 7 years. 7 years of time is investment.
I had a sort of similar “kind of” thought process when my wife and i were just getting married except i did trust her and i did want to share things with her. She is a hard worker and she’s my best friend which is most important. All in all, until i started regularly watching the Ramsey show, I thought we could go day to day without sharing money and bank accounts, but i gave it a shot and now we have a shared bank account we use for groceries, gas, and other shopping pleasures, etc. I keep my personal bank account strictly for bills and emergency fund, otherwise everything else is in the share. Our relationship has grown 10 fold because of the level of transparency at this point. We are still working on baby step 2, but the transparency we have with each other and our finances has helped so much on the whole “money fights” piece.
Yeah they're right. He doesnt want the kind of life that would come from them being married. He doesnt want her as a partner. So at least be honest with her. Then he can move and go do his own thing like he ACTUALLY WANTS instead of keeping her for probably just sex because he really didnt sound super into her.
He doesn’t feel safe with her. A man that feels safe with a woman won’t have all these feelings. When I got married, I didn’t have all these doubts I’m hearing from this man.
@@nugsin4 he clearly didn’t want to remarry. If this was a big issue, it was her job to escalate the situation. Odds are she’d rather have this dude and no ring, than not have this dude at all. Hence she’s stuck around for 7 years. I’m sure she’s offered value, but acting like someone deserves a reward for dating a millionaire with massive growth potential is silly
@@evanl889 that’s true. I’m not sure if it’s about himself or if it’s about her and he just doesn’t want to air it out on air. But phrases like “you know?” are ways to nudge a conversation forward in order to go past something uncomfortable to talk about.
But being single is lonely. Everybody wants someone by their side. It’s human nature that you can try to deny but we all want it. We all want a partner who loves us.
This is the reason I'm single and childless at 37, despite wanting marriage and children more than anything in the world for as long as I can remember. I've only ever met men like this in my life. Unlike his girlfriend I break it off after 3-6 months when it becomes self evident the man isn't leading the relationship towards commitment and a real future. Been through this more times than I care to count. Bunch of rubbish dudes out there happy to waste your time if you let them.
Ask yourself have women created an environment of trust for men to want to marry them. Has society destroyed the thing you want. In the day prior to the pill, men like this was shamed and denied sexual access to women. Think about how society has changed and you can change. Or you can move to another country with the traditional values you seek. You want both modern and tradition. This is why you struggle. Also take some personal responsibility. You have made decisions to overlook good men.
@@houseofhas9355 take your red pill jargon somewhere else. I can't control what other people do. I want marriage and a society that protects women from abuse and gives them options to get out when needed. If that's modern and traditional I'm all for it. All decent men agree with this concept too I might add. It's only the crazy ones who think marriage laws should go back to good ol days where you can hit or rape your wife with no consequences.
3-6 months isn't that long to date someone, I wouldn't have considered marriage to my now-husband in that tight of a time frame. A year is reasonable. At least 6 + months. It's like you're expecting things to go down the drain, so you quit before you get fired, if that makes sense. I really don't mean this in a hostile way, but have you considered the possibility that you are the common denominator here? If these jokers are the only men you've met for the past....20? years, you need to seriously reevaluate how/where you're meeting men. Or get some therapy to work out why you keep getting drawn in by these losers. I mean that very sincerely. Best of luck to you.
@@sitcomchristian6886 thanks. It's mostly online dating, unfortunately. I don't really meet single men at church or the activities I'm involved in and I don't go to bars. The reasons for ending things are due to discovering big deal breaker stuff like finding substance/alcohol abuse, major deception, lack of commitment or desire for marriage/family in their future. I guess I could've compromised and ended up in a bad situation? Plenty of people do and end up divorced. I guess I passed up on that opportunity. I don't see the point in investing more time into someone who doesn't want what you want and is making bad decisions they have zero intention of changing. Glad your marriage is going well.
I’m with you on this (story behind that). If you know in 3-6 months there are dealbreakers, cut your losses and move on. You know what you want and don’t want so why settle? I don’t have an answer for how to find good men but I know that finding damaged/losers isn’t going to create a satisfying marriage.
Dude wants a wife but is selfish and scared to commit. He forgets that he will get old one day and need a partner who will be there for him. I work in Healthcare and I've seen so many men in their 50s who had a stroke and winded up in a wheelchair in a nursing home. No wife to visit them and if they had kids, they don't visit coz he never raised them.
Lol, you missed the part where their partners left already after the man couldn't work, Women are encouraged to leave broke men. Just like men should be encouraged to leave fat women.
It was actually her house. She owned it. And she let his daughters live there. She was overly empathetic though, and ended up used, but at least it's over and she can concentrate on her own life and kids now.
This guy is a fool. $1.2 million that is "mostly tied up in the business" and also includes the value of your house, is not even close to 'wealthy' in 2024. He sounds like the kind of guy who gets in trouble with the IRS for some weird tax scheme.
So it's emotionally unsound to not concern yourself with preserving the assets you built. No one is entitled to the property you earned. It is not a sign if immaturity or selfishness, but a sign of intelligence, self preservation, and proper mental health to concern yourself the issue of putting yourself in a seriously compromising position. The marriage contact is the dumbest contract a man can sign.
The court system demolishes the men, but that's not the point. This guy shouldn't be in a relationship if he's not willing to commit. I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't want to run that risk again -- it can be traumatizing -- but he's been dragging this woman along for 7 years.
@@ryukirito2616 Rah! I’ve seen it happen in the Marines and in the civilian world too. Men who get dragged out in court usually don’t keep it to themselves. They tell people about it and it affects everyone.
Most men want to leave their wife destitute like they weren’t in the marriage. Go back in history and you’ll see men are the reason divorce tips in the woman’s favor now. As both marriage and divorce were always beneficial to men. Now only marriage is and divorce to the women, with few exceptions.
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He's not looking for advice, he looking for someone to tell him what he wants to hear.
Yeah
Looking for validation on his stance of not getting married.
Like most of these callers.
Exactly.
Because he is in denial and want to escape reality
She was with him for 2 years BEFORE he had money. Now all of a sudden he’s scared? Let her go.
He doesn’t have money, he has business assets.
I married a girl who dated me for3 years before i had any money. then i became a millionaire after we got married and she cheated and we got a divorce😂 she wanted some money
Fun fact... every guy who ever got taken for everything he had, thought that he wasn't going to get taken for everything he had
@DaishaView you clearly underestimate how devious and wretched women are. Just cuz she was with him before he had anything does not make her entitled to his shit. Furthermore being with someone prior to his wealth acquisition does not mean that they helped significantly.
@@carylhalfwassen8555no liquid cash 😂😂
This caller is exhausting. The girlfriend deserves better.
😂👏👏
No. HE deserves better!
WELL YA KNOW…I UNDERSTAND THAT…BUT HEARS THE THING
Why does she deserve better?
Excuse after excuse. Just let her go. He deserves to "feel" safe regarding his money. She deserves to find someone who loves AND will marry her
He doesn't have to "let her go," she has free will she can leave.
@@michaelpalumbo4880 very likely the girlfriend has never heard him say these things, he's probably been stringing her along. He doesn't even know how to be honest with himself much less be able to communicate to her.
azteca6695 Yes - I wish John had said that - "She deserves to find someone who loves her and will marry her"
Possibly a narcissist. They are selfish people, self-centered, and refer to everything as ‘My’. And more so, they use other people, like he seems to be doing to his ‘girlfriend’
She's no victim he raised and paid for her two kids over the last 7 years. She could have left at anytime. @@curiouscat3384
He’s wasting this woman’s life. He’s making her sound like a burden and inconvenience on his life.
The majority of women are burdens and problems. In today's market men get better results from never getting married. Blame the government.
Not if she enjoys dating him.
In most cases that is true.
Yes she needs to leave get her own life !!! Seriously he will always treat her like a problem
The sad part is she was too dumb to even notice/pick them clues up and still stuck with him hoping to marry him
Wow, he was talking in circles. I'm glad they got to the point. Let her go!
“If you don’t love the person more than your money, don’t get married” - Dave Ramsey
He's not going to, but it doesn't mean he can't still date her.
Prenups get such a bad rap. I"m glad John momentarily stuck up for them. The problem with blanket advice here. . .maybe he has obligations beyond himself and her. He didn't indicate it. . .but maybe he has a company and has employees and they can't work for Mrs. New wife if they divorce. Now you have (x) employees lives disrupted (or even ruined). He has obligations to his girls. Bad prenups are thrown out, not reasonable ones. Yeah, if he says "I get everything and you get nothing" that will be thrown out.
My wife and I have a prenup and we've forgotten we even have it. Because life is more than just about us and our marriage. It's selfish and impulsve to think otherwise.
@@cstuartdc They get challenged all the time. They do rarely get thrown out by a judge, but it does happen. Sometimes something was written incorrectly or unfairly in the prenup, or sometimes the judge will just willy-nilly throw it out because he/she feels like it. Divorce court really is a mess. Prenups are not trash, but they're not 100% secure either. The real issue is money needs to be taken out of divorce law. Some lawyers will look at people's net worth to see if it is beneficial to drag out legal proceedings to accumulate a bigger paycheck. Especially if one spouse is resentful, the lawyer will tell them to accuse the other of abusing the kids and they'll milk the spouse with a lot of the money dry before they stop. We really need to remove financial incentive for lawyers to ruin people's lives in family court.
@@Aubatron POINT: Prenups are not trash, but they're not 100% secure either.
COUNTERPOINT: Well. . .what is? A savings account? Well, the principal is 100% secure under 250K, but it's subject to inflation risk.
A prenup is a way to MANAGE risk, not eliminate it.
And by crapping on this [potential] partnership, he is passing up what every accountant knows. . .put 2 solo businessman next to each other and they'll earn 100K each.. . but if they form a partnership successfully, they'll make 300K. It's a 1+1=3 thing that goes beyond sharing expenses.
Here's the thing. . .lets say my wife decides to boink the entire NY Yankees and we get a divorce. . .becasue of 1+1+3. . .I know I'll be further ahead had we just never partnered up.
The problem is, that's all every woman wants when they divorce their husbands
He just needs to tell her " I will never marry you, but we can keep dating". Then she can make an informed decision.
Not even the dating... He's not viewing her as an individual that's on the same plane as he is ...
If she hasn’t got the hint by now, she’s delusional. She needs to get the hint after 7 YEARS and run
@@rosetashajnnoelby “same plane” do you mean equals?
@@truthtelleranonwomen aren't mens equal
She's still got to hear that 😔
"Girlfriend, if you are listening, it's time to leave!"
Jade is freaking hilarious!
She has charisma.
I love how Jade finally quit talking to him and told the girlfriend it's time to leave! Clearly this guy does not value her.
It’s hard I get it. If you work really hard and your gf doesn’t. Then it’s frustrating to think she gets half your hard work.
@@roisindubh1883 7 years of dating, c'mon...he did say say he did not want to marry her, by his behavior. 🤔
@@roisindubh1883 if both are adults you can make a special contract. But clearly his behavior ist bad - she should leave !
@@andrewbradley3305This is not a money problem but a relationship problem. If you don't trust your gf than why is she your gf?
@@andrewbradley3305He said she works hard. He is using her and stringing her along. The guy can't even think past himself so he should just marry himself but he is so wrong for using her as a support system and somethingbto be used and also wasting her time. He is dishonest to her.
He DOES NOT LOVE HER. She's a placeholder and bed warmer, no more. Let her go. She deserves at least her freedom.and dignity.
let her go? He is not raping her and tying her up is he? She is free to dump her
100% this!
She's a FWB.
Facts he don’t trust her either
Yes, but the girl does not need this individual to make her life choices. She needs to be the one to decide what she is going to do. In this situation it would be healthy behaviour if she told him that she is leaving.
"No, no, it's not THAT". The dude doesn't want the advice.
I can't stand when people string others along in a relationship. You are not a good person if you date someone, that you know wants to get married, for SEVEN years, and don't tell them you have no intention of doing so. If you don't want to get married, tell her and let her decide if she wants to stay in the relationship. The audacity at being upset she won't move cross country for someone that doesn't even want to marry her is crazy.
That’s a great point. Don’t waste peoples time
Let’s be honest, he must of used her for her motherly instincts too. I bet he LOVED having her involved with the kids and helping take care of em, man trusts her with his kids but not his money 😬🤯
Agree he's wrong for stringing her along for 7 years. However she is also wrong for not having the courage to leave earlier. The other problem is that family court laws are broken and make marriage too risky for many people. People idealize marriage too much and are willfully blind to this reality. A societies marriage laws should incentivize long term commitment and family formation. The problem with American family law is that it gives way too much power to the state to intervene in people's lives. If you research the history of marriage in America you'll learn that this is by design
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@@Diashi1267 she didn't know that he doesn't want to get married, so she is staying. Seven years is a good amount of time.
Dude, let her go. You don't love her. She was by your side when you were broke and had a bunch of little kids. You werent a prize and yet she stayed. You dont owe her your life but you do owe her being honest with your feelings and what you really want for your life, which doesnt include her.
Well said!
I agree! This guy needs to get his ass kicked
It’s not about Love. Marriage is the only contract where the woman is incentivized to break it. You were obviously not listening to this guy’s fears.
This is the hesitancy of most modern day men, especially when you’re talking marriage and no kids are involved. Why pay for the cow, when the milk for free. Marriage and family court laws need to be more equal, many blue pill people just don’t get it.
@@dynamicwellness33dude still owes it to her to be honest so she can stop wasting her time with him and so he can go move to Texas and travel like he wants. He's not doing either of them any favors by stringing her along. He already knows what he wants, and it isn't her.
Wasted 7 of her years. That’s crappy.
I feel bad for this woman. She is his friend with benefit for 7 years without knowing about it. Let her go, dude! She missed so many chances to find a better (and maybe a wealthier) guy than you.
I'm sorry... Everyone is guessing. Maybe she is ok, with all of it. Maybe she doesn't want to move, maybe her life is great...
@@patriciaalbertson5183she's not okay with it...did we listen to the same call
Oh please 😂 where she gonna find a wealthier guy? Because all the single guys have a 1.2 million dollar net worth?
@@steveabrams4314 1.2 million in net worth is not rich where I am from and most men have at least that by age 50 and I live in a pretty middle class area.
@@steveabrams4314in my city, that is just a house nothing more. 😂. Wouldn’t say wealthy.
He already wants the divorce before the wedding. 😂 Just don't do it!
Because she is kicking back and taking.
Why do we have car insurance, rent insurance, flight insurance, warranties?
Once he marries her, she's statistically likely to divorce him. Many women plan to leave before ever getting married. I wonder the red flags she's displaying to give him pause.
@@texan903many women plan to leave before they get marriedd? 😂 please post the link to that false claim asap!
@@texan903 I’m wondering if he observed how she handles money overtime. You can tell someone doesn’t handle money well based off what people say to you. People say stuff that gives clues about their finances.
It sounds like this man’s wealth has become a curse to him without him realizing it.
no, hes just wise and she is trying to say "get that government contract that entitles me to 50% of your stuff or i wont move with you". she is the coercive one that is threatening leaving unless they get a government contract binding his finances to her...
@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem
No. He's selfish. The wealth is not an issue. He can put the money in an LLC/ trust and get a prenup.
Listen again. He said that the house is gonna be crowded. He just wants a live in maid/ bed warmer, but doesn't want to give in to her wishes. I know someone like that. Married 3 times and it's always an issue. He has to remind everyone and his wife how much money he has, but is too greedy to buy his wife a pair of shoes.
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem Exactly, I will never get married again either. I rather be single that ever deal with a court system or judges or lawyers again
yeah in modern times marriage is just dumb, maybe it was a worthy concept in the 50's or so but not now, its different times.@@westcoast5681 now its just a 50/50 gamble of losing 50% of your money for no gain for the risk. any casino offering odds like that would never get any players "welcome to the clown casino, would you like to take a 50/50 chance of losing 50% of your money for $0 if you win" lol
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problemwhere in the call did you get this bs from? He literally she wants to get married, if he doesn’t want to he should break up with her. Simple. You just wrote a bunch of nonsense. 😭😂😂😂.
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This guy should stay single. Money or not, he’s not good husband material.
AT ALL! He can’t communicate with the show hosts which makes me wonder how well he communicates with his lady!
I disagree. This is the kind of guy that WAS great husband material and a woman burned him down to the core (then they cry about where are the good man lol) But I also agree he should stay single; he will have plenty of options out there with no compromises that burn him down again
He needs a therapist and Jesus to heal his childhood trauma(s)
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Absolutely. He is a liar and manipulative. He is NOT trustworthy.
This dude's energy is awful. No reason for her to take him seriously.
Sluggish🌿
Yep. He thinks he's wealthy at $1.2 million (that includes his business gross and his house). He's a clown. He sounds like the type that gets in trouble with the IRS for a dodgy tax scheme.
@roadrunner9622 true I thought we were talking about +10mil
@@roadrunner9622 that was my exhusband exactly!!!!!!!! thought he was a huge deal, and NO.
Insufferable
He doesn't want to be alone, he got divorced and met someone straight away. Poor woman
The woman is responsible too for jumping into bed with a divorcee
I love how he says he “feels led to move” to a different state. And how she “does not unless she is married.” Yeah… you phrasing it as being “led” to the decision doesn’t make it righteous and more important than her feelings.
And OF COURSE she doesn’t want to uproot her life unless you are serious about being with her (aka marriage)! That is a huge decision!!
You are so right! There is nothing righteous about sex outside of marriage.
Wisdom on her behalf.
@@sophiawish9772they could have recommended marriage without the courts involved
Oh there’s plenty of women that would move regardless if they were married or not. Do you see how many live with a man without marriage? No standards.
His "feeling" about moving to Tennessee or Texas is likely because neither state has state income taxes.
He wasted 9 minutes of their time and 7 years of his girlfriend's. This guy comes across as being so self consumed that it's crazy. If he truly loved this woman he would be looking forward to sharing things with her and making her happy. Instead, he can only think of himself. I hope my sons and daughters don't end up with people like this. My wife is the single greatest thing to ever happen to me.
Sure but that’s your experience. This guy already got divorced once and we don’t know his dating history prior to that marriage. Some people have extreme trust issues and abandonment issues. Perhaps you don’t know what that’s like. You can’t judge him when you don’t have the full picture.
I@@Eric_Bassett I can see your point.He is certainly entitled to feel the way that he feels. If he is being up front with her about those feelings so be it. If he has been stringing her along for seven years, then that is what I would take exception with.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Eric_BassettAnd he doesn’t have a clue of how self-absorbed he is
I agree, he sounds to me like a niggardly, slovenly man
Ugh. I dated a guy just like this. Didn’t want to give me any credit (even though we had a business together) didn’t seem to trust me (even though I never gave him a reason not to) and always treated the relationship like it was going to fail at some point in the future. It was the worst to be treated like that. But he never wanted to break up with me either. Like he hated me, but he wanted me around. He even told once “I don’t like telling you when you look nice bc I don’t want you to get a big head.” Like really, dude?! I was young and stupid and stuck around with him longer than I care to admit, but looking back on that in hindsight makes me sick.
Wow. So glad you got out of that. You should have love, affection, compliments, attention, and appreciation lavished on you. Not doled out in dried up morsels by some stingy miser.
I married a guy like this too. Never again!
I'm glad you are out.
They can totally erode your sense of worth.
Uh, I was expecting him to say a number much higher than $1.2MM...
That’s a really high net worth most peoples net worth are in the negative most people live paycheck to paycheck. Most people live like that they hate. Salute to this guy making his dreams come true.
I know right, he's in his 40s so that's not super amazing or anything. I will bet you that she helped in a lot of unseen ways with building that wealth too but he won't acknowledge that
Exactly! i don’t think women are after your money when that’s your net worth. He has a reallly inflated sense of value
For real
Narcissist central
Imagine being someone's rock, only to become an inconvenience now that he's doing okay and doesn't really need a rock.
I wouldn’t get married with how unfair the court system is towards men and how most women will take a man’s money through divorce, alimony, and child support, and most women aren’t even feminine anymore so they aren’t worth the risk.
This is why we all need to have our own little pot of cash on the side and have a hobby that will bring us money if need be we have to go back into the job market bc guys get bored when the “rock” is a homebody and they want to go drink and f*ck the next cute little thing it’s disgusting .
@@carolinag8943 what’s disgusting is divorce, alimony, and child support and an unfair court system that’s biased towards men.
That's a lie. Women pay alimony and child support. They just don't make as much noise about paying it as men. A lot of wealthy women have had to deal with this so stop the narrative already. Besides you can't blame someone for filing for a divorce when the marriage is terrible and consistently so.@@jragon9215
It fucking hurts
I married a man like this and he hid his money, cheated on me and never let me "in" to his accounts or became a "team" in any respect. This is a nightmare and he should let her GO.
Sorry you went through that Kim. Glad you’re out! Hope you were able to heal from that. It’s another level of deception. I don’t understand how some people walk around without a conscience
thats because we as men would be a team in all regards but dont touch our fucking money if you never worked for them.
best we can do is have a common account in which we put the same amount, but thats it.
our money is worth as much as our lives.
He doesn't want to make a life with her. He made that clear over and over again. I feel bad for her that she wasted seven years on this guy. I'm glad John finally told him to cut to the chase because I was going numb listening to him drone on and on and ON. The fact that she said she won't move to Tennessee with him unless he marries her tells me she is tired of being strung along and she wants him put up or shut up.
Yep! You said it.
While he was building the business, she probably took care of the household, raised his kids and hers, got seven years older, and now he's looking for a younger woman. Thats what I'm hearing. What a shame.
It sounds to me like he is a very niggardly, slovenly man
Why? Where is the man she had kids with?
@@andrew8168where is the woman he had kids with? They both got divorced.
7 freaking years and THIS is what he really thinks of her?? Wow. I pray to the good Lord above that she hears this and frees herself from this impending disaster. She deserves someone who thinks the sun rises and sets on her and can have mutual respect and admiration for one another. Not this dumpster fire of a narcissistic time waster.
FREE HER
If she really loves him (and he's still the best option for her) then she'll be ok with a marriage without the legal papers or at least a prenup.
@@Excalibur2There is no such thing as a marriage without the legal paper 🤦🏻♀️
@@saribrown7156 what do you think Christians did before the government tracked it? 🤦 It used to be marriage before God, not God and government.
Sounds a little like she was more of a convenience for him as long as no risk is involved.
I dated a guy like this. He wanted to get married and he wanted a prenuptial. I told him that I was more than happy to sign one, especially because I never wanted him to feel like I was after his money. His response? "Good, because you're not getting any of it." People who are that suspicious and jaded deserve to be single.
The kicker was that I was also independently wealthy and self sufficient, but there was nothing that could convince him that I wasn't out for his money, solely because I was a woman.
Did you marry him?
Did you marry him?
Men like that are disgusting. They think that all women are untrustworthy because of stupid assumptions based on their fears and phobias. It doesn't help that some men are predisposed to believing in anything they read that aligns with their fears.
That suspicion is well deserved, especially because u lot have proven yourselves to be nothing but leeches
Did you marry him?
This caller was beating around the bush every time they asked about his girlfriend, even when they asked him a pointed question. He didn’t seem to want to express anything about her character, good or bad. If I were in her shoes, I’d get out of that relationship asap! He’s not giving her any value.
When he said "In business you have to work on yourself as much as the business." That tells me maybe he thinks he is out of her league. She maybe doesn't project the right trophy wife thing he requires now that he is Mr. Big Bucks.
Honey, pack up and LEAVE!
@@joymcarthur5429😢
He has two kids, and she has two kids. He said they where almost grown now, so for seven years she has helped him raise his kids while he was building a successful business. I feel like Dave would have caught that and asked about it. I want to know how much of the house work he did? Did he come home and work with his kids on there home work? He built the business while they where together. Could he have done it as a single father? And maybe it's a non issue. Maybe his kids mom takes them most of the time. We are missing a lot of context.
House work? You are comparing the two?
This!!! All of this!!!
We're not sure if they lived together. They may have run separate houses. I did not hear that they lived together, or I missed that part.
How much free rent did she get in those 7 years?
Her kids don’t deserve a penny of his money! What makes you think she helped him build his wealth?!
Listening to this man drone on and on reminds me of how blessed I am to have my husband. He doesn't have anywhere near $1.2M, but he works his a$$ off to give me everything. He would give me everything he has without any thoughts of what's "his". He is the best man I have ever met and I'm so very honored to call him my husband. Maybe one day this guy will get a clue and realize the cost of his selfishness.
Love this ❤️ so true! Rich doesn’t mean generous
Good for you! But I will brag about my brothers who are both a lot wealthier than this narcissist and very liquid unlike this caller. They shared their wealth with their wives, who are also good with money. My younger brother even lets his wife handle all money matters since they are both on the same page. And both are still married to their wives (for decades).
@@whatevergoesforme5129 the caller literally has no excuse. Love this! What you wrote, sounds like your brothers actually love & respect their wives
@@yasminogbu8929 Yes, they do. And I am going to brag about my brothers and their marriage since this caller bragged about his so-called net worth that includes his house.
My brothers have more money in the bank and properties than this caller even though they work as professionals in their fields of expertise and are not businessmen, esp my younger brother. This caller is not really as wealthy as others think. His net worth is just a house in other states.
My brothers are Christians who are married to Christian women who actually follow the bible about respecting their husbands as well. Marriage is not only about compromise but more about sharing the same values and goals in life so the usual marital squabbles are reduced to minor issues (e.g. where to go on vacation, what degrees the kids need to take in uni (thank God, all STEM degrees, etc). And both husband and wife should work as a team which is a breeze when both share common interests, values, and goals in life. That is why my brothers are still married to the women they married when they were younger. And they picked their wives well before marriage based on the more important criteria (not just looks).
The problem with a lot of marriages today is the lost of truly Christian values and the ME first on both sides because more often than not the couple do not share the same values and goals in life so both think that their interests are not being considered by the other.
Would you give everything you have to him without any thought?
He makes it sound like he's soooo wealthy. My net worth is in the same range as this guy, and I don't consider myself wealthy. Same deal - no debt. He's a bit full of himself, really.
exactly.. i was expecting him to say 10 mil +
1.2 million isn't wealthy to you?
Exactly
@@blackbutterfly233ify not like he made it be. Is not that much wealth. Especially when you are self employed and selfish like he is. I hope she dumps his sorry behind and he will see how good the dating pool is out there. Such a douche… also that woman, after 5 yrs you see the changes, for sure he was not doing well even before so why stay and beg to get married with such a difficult and double minded person?😑😑😑
@@blackbutterfly233ifyit’s much better than the majority of people but not really that impressive in 2023.
He’s not gonna marry her. Break up with her, keep his wealth, and let her move on
If it flies, floats, or f*cks you should rent it. It's cheaper by the hour
$1.5M is not wealthy, it is healthy but wealthy is a whole other ball game.
I love the fact that the caller ignores every attempt at emotional intelligence…😂
Elaborate ?
@@Eric_Bassett His capacity - or lack thereof - to even reflect for a moment that he wants all the upside of being attached to another human being without any of the down. It's an entirely one-sided arrangement - he said himself that his partner wanted to get married, but briskly dismissed it on, repeatedly on grounds of how it would affect "him", "me", or "I". John was right, never once did he mention the two of them as a unit.
@@HSQadri well hes divorced, he probably has trauma from getting screwed over once already. It’s a very real fear for an accomplished man.
@@Eric_Bassetthe said himself that the divorce wasn’t that bad tho?
@@PatsGators497 He was probably lying to himself as well as the audience.
He wants to have a wife, but not be married.
which is totally fine and understandable. he has been caring for her for 7 years without issue, why does a government contract need to be involved? she is coercing him to get married or else she will leave, how is he the one in the wrong? why should he risk 50% of his networth when things have been going fine for the last 7 years without a government contract that lets men with guns come and take his money if she decides she wants it? have some objectivity lol
He said he trusts her.
It's selfish to use a woman for sex and housework.
how so? its a mutually beneficial relationship... imagine thinking housework and sex is such a hard life while men go and die in the Lumber fields, the Coal mines, on fishing ships, in war etc, or even if its a safe job working 12 hours a day... get a grip dude. he may trust her today but nobody knows who a person will be 1-2-3-4-5 etc years from now, for all we know she could be playing the long con, or she could get dementia and become crazy and want to divorce him, or get hit by a bus tomorrow and her kids get 50%. 50% of first time marriages end in divorce, 70% of second time marriages end in divorce which would be his 2nd marriage. you're here on the dave Ramsey channel yet you think its wise for him to take a 70% gamble on losing 50% of his networth for what gain? nobody is their right mind would risk 50% of their networth for 0$ at the casino.@@georgewagner7787 why should any man or women sign a government contract as a sign of love? it is totally illogical to get the government involved in any relationship.
@@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem Fact
@@georgewagner7787 Funny how they both getting sex but it's him using her lol. Who says she is even doing housework.
5:47. I will be saving this and many other Ramsey clips to show my daughters the kind of men to run from when they come of age.
This was an incredibly frustrating call. This guy needs individual therapy or coaching; throughout the call, it sounded like he was expressing these thoughts verbally for the very first time and consequently they weren't coming across as he intended.
Good observation
Yup totally agree
Yup.
"It's not that I don't trust her, I just don't want her to steal my money."
He sounds very niggardly
He’s scarred from the pain of his last divorce. He didn’t lose money, but it was clearly very painful. I bet he feels like if he did have money last time he’d have lost his money along with everything else. He’s not over his baggage.
He's too selfish and she deserves SOOO much better. Were it me, I would not let a relationship last this long without a wedding ring. It's been a huge waste of her time, unfortunately.
😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣.
Why does she deserve better when he earned everything he's got. Make no sense. Woman are greedy and always want their cake and eat it too.
yeah I'm sure a single mother could do SOOO much better.
No one cares what you want Bonnie 😂 get a ring from your cats!
How do you know she deserves better? Have you met her? lmao
Broke up with a girl I had been dating for about a year when she started talking about marriage. I was sad and lonely because I didn’t want to lose her but couldn’t see myself marrying her. The thought of leading her on just seemed wrong. Met my current wife a few months later and never had those same doubts when the topic of marriage came up. We will celebrate 20 years this April.
what was the difference?
@@TheMotArt
My wife has a more gentle spirit and does not respond with anger when she is hurt.
@@roliver3165makes sense. Noted.
So interesting. So glad you let her go! Good for you! And it paid off. Something intuitively told you it wasn’t right. Wish more people were honest with themselves & others around them. Less time wasted
Congratulations it was hard to do that but it would have been way worse to marry her and loose out on your wife 😢😢😢
So many of these calls, just like this one, make me scream to myself for the caller to GET TO THE POINT!!
😂
I’ve been waiting for this call. Dude. I had so much sadness for his girl listening to him. He doesn’t care about her at all.
Really? Most women don't care about a guy. They just want his money. What a joke comment.
@@kerryp7014who hurt you?
All he is saying is he doesn't want to share his money with her. He wants it to himself. Which is fine but since marriage involves sharing and compromise, it's just not for him.
Dan, if she had any self respect, she would have left you at year 2. You're getting it for free and you don't actually know what you want. She should not be trusting you.
Sure but he holds all the cards ? How many women who married bums complain about their lives ? She doesn’t have the ring but it definitely sounds like she’s in a comfortable place being with this guy lifestyle wise. If she were to leave she’d be starting from scratch and probably isn’t willing to do that. This guy has no debt and money in the bank. There’s no guarantee the grass would be greener on the other side. It’s often not. Especially in economical times such as these.
Exactly. Year two is the mark.
Je doesn't owe her anything. She can leave at any time.
her fault for totally not leaving
Exactly. He’s a narcissistic jackass. And she needs healing and real love in her life.
He had a committed partner who probably loves him and helped him to succeed (at the very very least did not hold him back)- what a fool.
She probably didn’t know until now that she had a very very uncommitted, ungrateful, and incredibly narcissistic partner who does not appreciate anything she’s contributed for 7 gd years nor bothers to express his love for her (if he even loves her). She needs to heal from something and develop better boundaries so selfish losers cannot take advantage again.
Take the opposite side of this: she should be wary of marrying a guy who speaks about me, myself and I when it comes to his money, his business, his, house, his travel plans and his feelings. He's not ready because he's insular in everything. He called wanting justification for his preference for the status quo and not marrying her. He should have admitted that, she's fine in every way, I just don't want to marry her.
He sounds like my friend who was never happy where she was.
Yes! This!
This is why as women don’t ever waste more than a year with a man, max. No ring, bounce
There is no upside for men in marriage anymore. I reached the point where there was nothing that any woman was going to bring into my life that was going to make it significantly better.
@@terryjohnson3479Praying I never get this bitter
@@Shelby-jv7ij I'm not bitter. It's simple truth
Those of us who know both of these people have known for SEVEN years she’s too good for him. So glad you’ve amassed this supposed fortune selling car parts on eBay out of your basement Dan. However, she works hard and has mothered your special needs daughters for SEVEN years while being treated like crap by you and your parents. I’m so thankful you called this show and gave her what she needed to turn her back on your emotionally abusive bullshit. Your narcissism knows no bounds. Enjoy all that traveling -alone.
I was married to this man I'm not going to trashing Jackie or Dan but I was alienated from my daughter's and left with absolutely zero money and replaced
I need an update. Did Jackie leave???
emotionally abusive, I picked up on that. The reason he won't marry her isn't because he's afraid of losing his money or his business. It's because it's a power tactic to make sure she knows her place. He enjoys pretending that he's doing her some sort of giant favor.
I figured she was raising his kids for him. It was clear he devalued everything she contributed. Then to find he was working out of his basement. Sheeesh.
YAY. CALLED ON HIS BS!
I hope his life changed and he got what was due! Good luck, sir.
Everything is great until it's not. People totally change during a breakup, especially when money is involved.
Yaass!! The truth!! In any relationship it is ideal to discuss and document how to move forward if something goes wrong while yhings are going well...People tend to think and act more emotionally than practically during breakups...
It's simple: don't get married if you have trust issues and refuse to share.
Be single then. Nothing in life is guaranteed but you can't live your whole life on the basis "guilty until proven innocent".
99 percent will take everything you got if it does not work out in the end. Listen to your heart and Mind!!!
@@MikeThePike316 I don't refuse share as long as it's benefiting me once that no longer the case I want my sht back
Some men don't realize that a supportive woman's company is what gives them the energy to achieve. In a lot of cases, they probably couldn't achieve so much before that woman. And after she's gone, they'll go back to their mediocre levels and not achieve much. But they think they achieved it all themselves and give the woman no credit at all.
Yes thats spot on.What a capital drag men like him are.
yea, so they should just hire a maid, a chef, and a hooker, and stop wasting time with women and having to lose a percentage (usually half) of the business for a basic hole.
Jacki, First and foremost, I want you to know how amazing you are. You've supported him and everyone around you, and your kindness knows no bounds. Your worth isn't determined by his income or anyone else's. It's about who you are as a person, and you're incredible. Don't let his doubts make you question yourself. You deserve someone who appreciates and values you for the loving and caring person you are. And remember, you've got friends who have your back, including me.
Did she leave? did he propose?
We need to know?!
I hope she left. Show her this. He used her and karma will come back
My guy and I have been together over 8 years. He started a business a few years ago that is barely making it but I believe in him enough that I’ve taken on a big portion of our bills and other expenses over the past few years and made many sacrifices so he can continue to work towards his dream. I’d be so upset if he finally became successful and started talking like the success of the business was all his doing. This guys a nightmare. He was with this woman before he became successful and now he’s acting like she’s a gold digger or something.
You should get married whether or not he becomes successful because you are already making the sacrifices that only a *fully* committed partner should make. If you don’t fully believe in him you shouldn’t make those sacrifices, but you could stick around without doing so if you choose. If you do believe in him, then get married and make them. Being unmarried and making sacrifices only gives him the option of one day deciding (if he becomes successful) whether you will benefit from the sacrifices *you made* or not. Don’t put yourself in that position. And it’s been 8 years. You’re already in deep.
You've sacrificed your bill money to help invest in your boyfriend's dream, which wasn't a very smart thing to do. Your bills should be your first priority to pay than anything else, instead the money going towards somebody's else's dream. What are you going to do when the utilities are shut off, and the rent or mortgage is delinquent, and have to vacate? You don't want to be out on the street.
@@slimdude2011 we’ve lived together for several years so I’m just saying I’ve covered most of our mutual expenses not just his. Just in the past few months the tables have kinda turned and he’s bringing in a bit more than me so now he’s covering our house, utilities, and car insurance and now I’m just paying for groceries, phones, expenses for the kids (school clothes etc) and entertainment like hulu, netflix etc. His business still isn’t successful but it’s bringing in just enough for us to get by month to month when combined with my income. He could be making significantly more money if he just got a regular job but we both believe in the business and have been making sacrifices to get it up and running.
@@GoJojo-lv6zi ya I know we need to get married. We already own property together and financially our lives are very intertwined. We both want to get married but we’ve been so busy trying to pull ourselves out of the mud and get property that it’s just gotten pushed to the back burner. We already bought our rings and everything. We’ve honestly just been procrastinating because we’re so focused on other things.
@@mamadoom9724 I don’t buy that, sorry. You haven’t been procrastinating on getting married for 7 years. You can just go get a marriage certificate & have a ceremony later. The deeds you’re signing and everything else carry just as much weight and you had time for those. I don’t buy it. It’s silly to not make it official after so long and a life that is already deeply intertwined. It’s silly and those aren’t good reasons.
“I don’t have anything against marriage…” lol 😂 yeah ya do
if men wouldnt lose money in a divorce, we would all be married.
"Don't drag her behind the car of your life" Thanks, John! that's exactly it. The caller has no interest in compromising HIS vision. His fiancee is not his partner, she's an add-on who is seen as making trouble for him.
"Behavior is a language." - Great line.
Yep saw that! Big statement! Love it
There is nothing more painful than being in a relationship with someone who truly doesn’t love you. I know because I’ve been in her shoes. Man up and set her free.
a man can truly love you but not trust you with his money.
for us, our money are worth as much as our lives. i love my money more than i love myself, so bold of you to assume you'd be over that.
Run lady, as fast as you can!! Go where you are valued and respected.
She's a single mom. She isn't valued by any man with self respect. She needs to keep the man she's got.
Agreed! She needs to go where she’s valued
@joe, don’t think you herd the full video, he’s a single dad too! They are both bringing kids into the relationship. Plenty of amazing parents out there, that have come out of past relationships that find each other. Life isn’t for suffering in silence 😂 not everyone is petrified of being alone. Alone doesn’t mean lovely to many of us. Sounds like you need Sone inner work love
This is why you don't play house. She definitely helped with building his wealth whether he will acknowledge that or not, and now she won't get a cent when they break up.
She didn’t do shit 😂 his own business she lived at home
Women dot build. Yall use, consume, and destroy.
@@willfelix4655 Seriously, he knows he didn't choose divorce the first time...
This is the attitude that is the problem. Men working hard then women claiming it for themselves. No wonder he feels the way he does
This comment shows exactly why he doesnt wanna get married again. Woman works for something but has a bf: it was all her; man works for something but has a gf: she mustve helped.
They've been together seven years and "he's" become wealthy in the last five? No sir you have not become wealthy on your own, you did it with this woman by your side. You're just not in love anymore and want someone to give you an excuse to be chasing trophy girls.
The person u marry is never the person u divorce
Wise words 👏
The exact opposite is true. It’s always the same person and most of the time people are angry because they wanted the person to change.
Women marry, hoping they can change the man.
Men marry, hoping the women won't change.
So True
My thoughts exactly
He cares about himself and his business far more than he ever cared about her. Let Her Go!
As he should. The only one looking out for him is himself. It certainly won't be the preacher, or the judge, or the army of state henchmen used to clean him out.
True
as he should.
money are worth so much more than a woman, should never trust her with anything.
for a man, the money he has are worth as much as his life.
He doesn't see the value in a life partner and only views her as a burden. I feel so bad for her, I went through that with my boyfriend and I do work hard and earn my own money. My boyfriend thought it was ok for his adult daughter to be rude to me and I was not invited to parties that he hosted at his home when his former family would be there. So I walked away after 10 years.
It doesn’t really matter if he built the wealth separately. If they get married then it is THEIR wealth. That’s how marriage works. If you can’t share your resources, emotions, life-everything-then you shouldn’t get married. That’s ok, maybe marriage isn’t for you. However, it’s insane that anyone would even consider getting married while attempting to keep their things separate. If you can’t trust or share all that you are-then don’t get married. That type of relationship will only end poorly.
Just do your own thing, dude. Call it quits and go live your amazing life exactly as YOU want to without a "ball and chain". Holy shit this was painful. I hope his girlfriend hears this call and realizes her relationship has zero future.
Divorce is the future. He's absolutely smart to be wrestling with this.😊
If after 4 years she still hasnt gotten a clue, she deserves to be dragged behind...
Agree. He's better off single and can find a new GF down in Tenn or TX
@@K4R3N There are already chics calling into the studio begging for his digits.
@@JustinCase780 if I was single lady I'd be calling in with zero marriage expectations. Let's just have a good time! 😉
This guy is waiting for something better to come along because he’s “wealthy”. Calm down bro, 1.2 million can’t buy a decent house in most big cities
i never met a woman who had $1000 in her name. Not a single one, ever. 1.2 mil can buy you a fucking mansion in scandinavia. You have a case of the tiktok brain.
Sounds like he has trust issues. Nothing he said about her seems like she's a mess.
He's the one that is a mess.
I can see why his first wife left.
And you're 100% sure that it wasn't the first wife who created those trust issues?
@@MrClassicmetal Or maybe it is just him.
@@MrClassicmetalif you listen wuth your ears, you'd hear himckarufy that it wasnt his furst wife but his parents relationship that brought on the trust issues
@@smn5672 It is still him.
Not trust issues. He’s selfish. And is using her nanny care so he can open his new shop and get wealthier
How many years is it before "Common Law Marriage" kicks in for this guy? THIS is why people shouldn't shack up. She flushed seven years of her life down the drain for a guy who used her as a free, live-in nanny for his kids.
Some states don't have common law marriage, my state, NC doesn't.
Only 8 states recognize common law marriage. Google it and hold this L.
Wow she is dumb enough to do that so properly exactly where she belongs
And if he had gotten married and she decided to leave he would have wasted probably twice as long, as it would take time to build up everything she'd take plus alimony and child support.
I don't think Common Law marriage exists anymore unless grandfathered in before a certain year.
I still don’t understand what the point of his call was….All I got from this was 7 years was wasted for both of them…🙄
Amen to Dr. John. I can't wait to be wealthy with my partner! I paid off her 100k of debt and we are building a life together!
My husband and I didn’t have any debt when we met each other, but we didn’t have anything of our own either. We built a beautiful home and family together. It’s a wonderful feeling… 🥰🥰🥰
We’re not wealthy and we’ll likely never be. The wealth we seek to leave our children with is the wealth of faith and knowledge. I’d rather spend money buying several 13 volume encyclopedias from 1930/1960/1990 among other books from Thomas Harding, to Lord Byron, Machado de Assis, Luís de Camões…
Let us know how its going in 2 years
@@mjj8560 Its been 11 years, 2 kids, and 1 house later. More kids, bigger house, and cash to come. Thank you for your optimism.
Wow...the headline makes it sound like the girlfriend is the a-hole but it turns out it's the caller who is the a-hole. This guy just needs to be alone because that's what selfish people deserve.
Spoken like a true post wall hag. Men are onto the family law system and femininsm. An we want nothing t do with it anymore!
He could have abandonment issues, Trust issues, or past trauma tho ?
@@Eric_BassettShouldn't be dating if he has issues like that.
@@shimmeringchimps3842 lol yea him and millions of other men and women. But realistically, people with issues will always be the majority of the dating market. Most people.. are in some way broken or in the process of being broken when it comes to love and romance.
You obviously don’t understand how the family courts work and how marriage contract is the only contract a woman is incentivized to Brake. Especially when there are no kids involved, how does this guy’s life get any better with her by marrying her?
The risk in this situation is only shared on one side of the equation.
Despise men like this.
Just wasting a woman's life.
Go find who you would marry and leave her alone so she can be with someone who wants a future with her.
"Don't drag her behind the car of your life" - great quote!
Yes, genius recognizes genius
Seven year itch man. He used her as house maid and cook and now he wants to ditch her. Way to go.
Lol I doubt she cooks or cleans, that's wishful thinking. Modern women don't do that anymore
He’s a smart man! Never take over a women’s kids who are not biologically yours. That’s the golden rule.
@@reesercliffthat’s a generalization and not true
If she dumb enough to do that rather than doing her own thing she properly deserve that
@@intercine4986 lions eat the young of a lioness that aren't theirs
John is fuming….good on him for not snapping off!
I agree with those two. When you truly love somebody, you don't care about what obstacles are in your way. That gentlemen was making excuse, after excuse, after excuse why he doesn't want to marry her. Let her go, brother!
You can be in a relationship without being married... he doesn't have to "let her go" either. She is free to leave. He is simply protecting himself from an extremely bias divorce court system.
@@TheFlyingZulu Yup. She get's messy when her main goal is half his shit.
You are a GOOD guy Jacob!! And a true gentleman's code!!
And handsome too!
I think he simply doesn't love her, it was just convenient that she was there when he needed her, and he spoke of it in his terms, sad I didn't get much of this episode except some like to brag about themselves and make it public
I think you hit the nail on the head. This guy just wanted to flex. He already knows he's too selfish to be married so he just called to brag about how hard he has worked and how successful he's been.
The girlfriend was his mistress because, he was involved with her when he got divorced seven years ago, he's been with her for seven years, and probably during the time while he was still married. So therefore, she was dating a married man. He's not going to marry her (and never had any intentions to) because he already got what he wanted out of her and surely, he's not going to give her any of his money. He already made that perfectly clear! I blame her for this situation because, she shouldn't had got in a relationship with a married man in the first place. She's suffering the consequences of being used for seven years, and not getting married to this man like she thought. Just like any other mistress that were told the same lies, thinking the man is going to marry them after leaving his wife.
Well, I don't consider him wealthy and I can brag more about the wealth of my brothers. This guy is not even liquid and his whole net worth is peanuts since he included his own house. I laughed hard when I heard the amount because hearing him talk, I was expecting a higher amount, not necessarily a Bill Gates level, but not a mere 1.2 million, which is
The way he talks about her “she is” etc. is so loaded with disdain that it’s heartbreaking for her.
The statistics of divorce in a 2nd marriage is higher than the first marriage.
That's why I won't get married again..long live girlfriends with separate houses and their own income and own kids.
Lolz which is why i dont listen to peoples advice on relationships especially people who had divorce in thier past
@@unfairsanic5089 actually you should listen to them and learn from their mistakes! There's more lessons in the bad stories (what to watch out for) than the good stories.
@@K4R3N A girlfriend with her own kids? No thanks.
@@MrClassicmetal my logic is she won't want anymore! I'm not doing the baby stuff again, already a 3-time dad. Done with that diapers and strollers and sleepless nights BS.
I wish he would have talked more about what she did for a living and what she brought to the table. He strikes me as someone who thinks he built this business by himself while not acknowledging one bit of what she has done for him and his business. He’s going to end up moving without her and his business and life are going to fall apart.
thats because she probably did nothing or just stayed at home - which is not that much, to be fair.
She let him waste her time for 7 years. No ring after 18 months, leave! He doesn't like you.
Why did he even call? What kind of advise was he looking for?
I despise 'bait and switch' captions, yet you always accurately reflect the conversation's content. Thank you! It always astonishes me how individuals can be oblivious to their own words. This gentleman seems deaf to his own language, even amidst your resounding advice.
He doesn't like the answer he is getting so keeps trying to adjust his answers to be right. She deserves better. He thinks of himself as very superior.
I said the same thing “Break Up with her, because, I don’t think she, realize how miserable she’s gonna be, if she continue on with him, it in his Voice, you two are on Two different pages. No one should stand on the Sidelines of their Adult Life, this guy will definitely keep her as a sideline, even in Marriage..
I feel like at least 50% of the callers don't need financial advice. They need a therapist to address and fix underlying problems that may get in the way of good money habits.
Facts!
Often reflected in the discussion.
If she wants to get married and youre not being honest about not wanting to get married thats just awful.
Be honest & upfront about what you want and if you cant give each other the things you need, part ways.
Its frankly really simple.
Also, women, get yourselves a fantastic careeer. It does wonders for your confidence and youll find yourself a brilliant partner who's going to be your equal in everything. Its sooooo healthy and freeing!
Such a down inflection in his voice when he speaks of her.
I need…
My house…
Split goals.
6 people she has taken care of something for 7 years.
7 years of time is investment.
Yeah because he earned it and worked for it
@@gamecock_1960 and probably she hasnt contributed to any of that so it's easy to think of it as your house when you pay for it.
I had a sort of similar “kind of” thought process when my wife and i were just getting married except i did trust her and i did want to share things with her. She is a hard worker and she’s my best friend which is most important. All in all, until i started regularly watching the Ramsey show, I thought we could go day to day without sharing money and bank accounts, but i gave it a shot and now we have a shared bank account we use for groceries, gas, and other shopping pleasures, etc. I keep my personal bank account strictly for bills and emergency fund, otherwise everything else is in the share. Our relationship has grown 10 fold because of the level of transparency at this point. We are still working on baby step 2, but the transparency we have with each other and our finances has helped so much on the whole “money fights” piece.
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I'm worth $2M and I don't think like this guy. He doesn't have money. Money has him. Dan, stop wasting your girlfriend's time. MOVE ON!
Yeah they're right. He doesnt want the kind of life that would come from them being married. He doesnt want her as a partner. So at least be honest with her. Then he can move and go do his own thing like he ACTUALLY WANTS instead of keeping her for probably just sex because he really didnt sound super into her.
He doesn’t feel safe with her. A man that feels safe with a woman won’t have all these feelings. When I got married, I didn’t have all these doubts I’m hearing from this man.
@@dialac1he’s been burned hard before. He’s got even more to lose this time around. It’s reasonable that he’s apprehensive IMO
@@nugsin4 he clearly didn’t want to remarry. If this was a big issue, it was her job to escalate the situation.
Odds are she’d rather have this dude and no ring, than not have this dude at all. Hence she’s stuck around for 7 years. I’m sure she’s offered value, but acting like someone deserves a reward for dating a millionaire with massive growth potential is silly
He says “you know” so many times which means he’s hiding something.
@@evanl889 that’s true. I’m not sure if it’s about himself or if it’s about her and he just doesn’t want to air it out on air. But phrases like “you know?” are ways to nudge a conversation forward in order to go past something uncomfortable to talk about.
There's worse things then being single
But being single is lonely. Everybody wants someone by their side. It’s human nature that you can try to deny but we all want it. We all want a partner who loves us.
@@mamadoom9724 you can be alone but not lonely
And you can also be lonely while in a relationship
This is the reason I'm single and childless at 37, despite wanting marriage and children more than anything in the world for as long as I can remember.
I've only ever met men like this in my life. Unlike his girlfriend I break it off after 3-6 months when it becomes self evident the man isn't leading the relationship towards commitment and a real future. Been through this more times than I care to count. Bunch of rubbish dudes out there happy to waste your time if you let them.
Ask yourself have women created an environment of trust for men to want to marry them. Has society destroyed the thing you want. In the day prior to the pill, men like this was shamed and denied sexual access to women. Think about how society has changed and you can change. Or you can move to another country with the traditional values you seek. You want both modern and tradition. This is why you struggle. Also take some personal responsibility. You have made decisions to overlook good men.
@@houseofhas9355 take your red pill jargon somewhere else. I can't control what other people do. I want marriage and a society that protects women from abuse and gives them options to get out when needed. If that's modern and traditional I'm all for it. All decent men agree with this concept too I might add. It's only the crazy ones who think marriage laws should go back to good ol days where you can hit or rape your wife with no consequences.
3-6 months isn't that long to date someone, I wouldn't have considered marriage to my now-husband in that tight of a time frame. A year is reasonable. At least 6 + months. It's like you're expecting things to go down the drain, so you quit before you get fired, if that makes sense.
I really don't mean this in a hostile way, but have you considered the possibility that you are the common denominator here? If these jokers are the only men you've met for the past....20? years, you need to seriously reevaluate how/where you're meeting men. Or get some therapy to work out why you keep getting drawn in by these losers. I mean that very sincerely. Best of luck to you.
@@sitcomchristian6886 thanks. It's mostly online dating, unfortunately. I don't really meet single men at church or the activities I'm involved in and I don't go to bars. The reasons for ending things are due to discovering big deal breaker stuff like finding substance/alcohol abuse, major deception, lack of commitment or desire for marriage/family in their future. I guess I could've compromised and ended up in a bad situation? Plenty of people do and end up divorced. I guess I passed up on that opportunity. I don't see the point in investing more time into someone who doesn't want what you want and is making bad decisions they have zero intention of changing. Glad your marriage is going well.
I’m with you on this (story behind that). If you know in 3-6 months there are dealbreakers, cut your losses and move on. You know what you want and don’t want so why settle? I don’t have an answer for how to find good men but I know that finding damaged/losers isn’t going to create a satisfying marriage.
"I'm wealthy, I have 1.2-1.5" LMFAO, This dude has a long way to go to be considered 'wealthy'
you will never see a net worth of even 10% of that. The internet ruined your brain and you will die miserable and dissapointed..
Dan seems to think a lot of himself and not a lot of his girlfriend.
It is that simple!
Dude wants a wife but is selfish and scared to commit. He forgets that he will get old one day and need a partner who will be there for him. I work in Healthcare and I've seen so many men in their 50s who had a stroke and winded up in a wheelchair in a nursing home. No wife to visit them and if they had kids, they don't visit coz he never raised them.
Lol, you missed the part where their partners left already after the man couldn't work, Women are encouraged to leave broke men. Just like men should be encouraged to leave fat women.
He’s sound so down and dejected…the gf needs to run fast if she’s waiting for marriage 😬. Some people need to be left alone with their assets.
Right? It sounded like Eeyore calling. I sure hope my bf doesn't sound like that when he talks about me! 😂
It was actually her house. She owned it. And she let his daughters live there. She was overly empathetic though, and ended up used, but at least it's over and she can concentrate on her own life and kids now.
This guy is a fool.
$1.2 million that is "mostly tied up in the business" and also includes the value of your house, is not even close to 'wealthy' in 2024.
He sounds like the kind of guy who gets in trouble with the IRS for some weird tax scheme.
He is an emotional toddler. My money, my house, my company my, my, my… poor lady
100%. Me, my self and i.
So it's emotionally unsound to not concern yourself with preserving the assets you built. No one is entitled to the property you earned. It is not a sign if immaturity or selfishness, but a sign of intelligence, self preservation, and proper mental health to concern yourself the issue of putting yourself in a seriously compromising position. The marriage contact is the dumbest contract a man can sign.
@@michaelpalumbo4880especially when there are no kids involved.
@@solarexcrement-he6qbshe wants a stake, and he doesn't trust her. They should break up.
Women do the exact same. It's his, he worked for it, why should he risk it?
John doesn’t understand the horrors of family court.
The court system demolishes the men, but that's not the point. This guy shouldn't be in a relationship if he's not willing to commit. I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't want to run that risk again -- it can be traumatizing -- but he's been dragging this woman along for 7 years.
He’s probably never seen a coworker go through a situation
@@Jack-pd4ps no I doubt he has. Being a Marine I’ve seen countless going through it.
@@ryukirito2616 Rah! I’ve seen it happen in the Marines and in the civilian world too. Men who get dragged out in court usually don’t keep it to themselves. They tell people about it and it affects everyone.
Most men want to leave their wife destitute like they weren’t in the marriage. Go back in history and you’ll see men are the reason divorce tips in the woman’s favor now. As both marriage and divorce were always beneficial to men. Now only marriage is and divorce to the women, with few exceptions.