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- Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 vs Ford Transit AWD
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Today we are test driving and comparing the 2020 Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 Van to the 2020 Ford Transit AWD Van. We have some interested buyers in our vans so we wanted to see what the market looks like for new vans. We know we want our next rig to be either a 4x4 or AWD vehicle so we checked out the only two vans on the market with these options.
We headed to the local dealerships to test drive what they had. Unfortunately the Ford dealership only had a short top work van in AWD but we still took it for a spin to see how it drives.
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Hey you Kookz! We recently test drove the 2021 Gas Powered Sprinter and really put it to the test. We took it through some gnarly conditions check it out here th-cam.com/video/3jPwKpYQ478/w-d-xo.html
Do many people rent these? I see very little on Turo. I want to buy one to rent out.
You guys rock! I’ve been going crazy making this exact decision. Thanks !
Thanks dude! You rock! Hope you made the right decision!
I work for Fedex and drove the same Sprinter for 8 years. The only reason we retired it was because it was Kamakazed by a Prius. It was a tank. I probably started it 50 times a day and never replaced the starter! Outside of brakes and oil changes it never needed much. It had almost 500,000 miles on it. RIP my old van!!
Great info Tim! Thanks for sharing!
👍🏼What year was it?
@@yvandespommes143 that’s so true I have a lot of different vans in my company DPF cost me more money with problems than anything else
Hey boss what year was it
@@kierancasey1135did DPF problem with the Mercedes-Benz too?
I went through the same decision making process and settled on the Ford for two reasons. First, there are Ford dealerships everywhere so roadside repairs and service is a non-issue. The drivetrain is near enough to that of a F150. I live in Nebraska and there is only one Sprinter service dealership in the entire state. I'm sure non-dealers could help in a pinch but it's not ideal. Second, the 3.5 Ecoboost motor is a real screamer. So much power! I can put it on cruise control while towing a 4,000 pound trailer and it will drop one gear and hold 70 mph all the way to Eisenhower Tunnel in Colorado with no effort at all. The Sprinter looks better but the Ford made more sense for me.
This is very true. However we have a MB Sprinter with 215k miles and we rarely have issues I feel like around this mileage the gas ford engine would start to have problems.
I with you on getting the Ford and I did my research. Ford has less expensive service fees and it’s $100 cheaper for an oil change on a Ford. I used to do them myself when I was younger and penniless but it’s not worth the aggravation now. Too hard to dispose of the old oil.
Totally agree. Now that the Transit has the intelligent AWD system with the powerful Ecoboost engine and still cost many $1000s less than the Sprinter, it's the no-brainer choice in my opinion. Having plenty of service centers and fuel stations available are bigger issues than most people think, especially for a full time RV build. A long wheelbase AWD Transit 350 will definitely be the base for my upcoming build.
I was going to build out a AWD transit extended length high roof. So I priced one with almost every option. Then I priced one with a lot less options. The fully loaded one was over $500 cheaper than the less loaded one because of package discounts. I eventually ordered a 2021 E350 because I needed a higher towing capacity. Plus a 7' X 14' box with square walls. Cheaper, faster and easier to build. And for the price difference I can always get it converted to real 4x4. I always enjoy your work and videos.
Danm! Sounds epic! Yeah the transits are nice they are just hard to come by gotta order them and wait forever: hopefully we can sell our van and move on to a new build soon
@J. G. Have you seen the Unicell bodies for your Ford truck? One piece fiberglass and wood finished inside. You can get barn doors on the back instead of a roll up. www.unicell.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/UBC-Ford-Aerocell-City-1911-Digital.pdf
@@Vankookz Took me 8 months to get mine, but I love it
I'm in with thw same dilemma ! Can't wait to see what you will pick in the end. I'm pull over on the Sprinter side !
And you will see how much you gonna pay.
@@marguskiis7711 I ended up ordering an AWD T350.
Dumb choice tbh
Very disappointed that you compared the base model Ford vs fully loaded Mercedes. You should have waited to do your video when you found the fully loaded Ford. I’m leaning toward the Mercedes but i am going to head out and try a fully loaded Ford to confirm my choice.
Good luck finding one. We did get to test one in this video th-cam.com/video/lX5toMMlj-w/w-d-xo.html
How important is ride quality?
@@Vankookz Watched that video and that was a 2018 Transit. I wouldn't call that much more than a base model either.
I have been doing extensive research on the topic. In conclusion there are two things that the Mercedez holds over the transit and that is the MB has 4x4 and a diesel engine. But the price makes it almost double the price of the Ford Transit or the other popular van life model being the Ram Promaster. Also, if you get the Ecoboost transit which is a twin turbo V6 it has a equal punch to that of the Sprinter.
And with the money you save getting the Transit or the Promaster can be put more towards the layout of the inside and allow for nicer "home" upgrades instead of the nicer van.
I'm waiting for one of the large truck review sites to compare the capabilities of both the MB 4x4 vs Transit AWD on a controlled test track. Although there is lots to like on the 4x4 MB, I do like the option of going with the aftermarket 4x4 upgraded system by companies like Quigley/Quadvan. Hard to argue with the cost of ownership between these two vans. Also, if you plan to stay domestic, the amount of repair shops that can work on the transit dwarfs MB in the US. Ultimately, I can't wait till the electric Transit/MB comes to market. I've read the two most expensive costs associated with long term overland trips are 1. Fuel and 2. Food. Just gotta figure out where to recharge. Great video, once again!
I was looking for the 4x4 comparison too and found this guys build, he does a really nice write up comparing them.
ourkaravan.com/4x4_sprinter_and_transit_vans/
That was helpful. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I have an ARB 50 in between the front seats in my Sprinter. I’d love to have a new one but my 2010 is still working well enough for me. Sprinter all the way. Spend $1000 on the Zurich pro scan tool from Harbor freight. I do ALL the work on my sprinter and have never taken it to the dealer. It has 170,000 miles on it.
Nice! We have a 2007 with 210k we try to do what we can to it but we usually have to take it to a mechanic never the stealership
Not everyone can or wants do their own maint and repairs, especially people who travel full time in their van. For the vast majority of van travelers, having plenty of service centers available is essential. That's definitely a mark against the Sprinter.
D LG that is true! I sometimes forget that most people don’t do their own repairs. If I had a new Sprinter with warranty issues the closest dealer to work on it is almost 2 hours away. I still like them better than transits or promasters though.
Any problems with wheel speed sensors?
@@colin_deans so far I haven’t had any problems with wheel speed sensors. Knock on wood! 196k now and since my last post I had to replace a glow plug but I think that’s it. Easy to diagnose and replace. Inexpensive part.
Maintenance cost and repairs would probably be a big plus for the Ford as well as being gas.
yes, that is one reason we were originally stoked on the Ford's. Finally an AWD, domestic, Gas engine that any mechanic can work on and parts and labor aren't a million dollars ;) Plus, no extra money spent on DEF throughout the vehicles lifetime, because it is a gas engine!
Maintenance on Sprinters is less over time according to Vin Centric a automotive research firm. Once a year / 20,000 miles vs what on the Ford? If you want Gas and Awd then Ford is only game in town
ecoboost engine kicks ass
@@Vankookz Mercedes is supposedly releasing a 4 cylinder gas engine cargo van this summer sometime, though I don't think it will be offered in 4x4 yet.
@@georgestavros5381 Nonsense
I like the ford. I especially liked how you showed the prices. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
4x4 and awd is vastly different. And your heart is gonna stop when you bring the sprinter in for maintenance or repair
I’m no expert but what I read is sprinter is not the same 4x4 as a truck 4x4. Plus it is more expensive on Sprinter. Sprinter does have higher ground clearance.
@@craigclaussen4589 Get a lift for your Transit.
@@ChronicSurfer the differential will still be lower with a lift kit
the 4x4 on the sprinter is basically awd... its nothing like a truck or jeep 4x4
@@JogBird It's also nothing like AWD. MB is redoing their 4x4 hopefully for 2022 so perhaps then it will be.
Since I have found this video as result of query containing string "4x4" I quit miss test of abilities on dirty road or in snow or at mud.
I do not see anything related to 4x4 topic, even description of driving mode, if it has switch for manual 4x4 as elder generation AWD has. Nothing 4x4 related in this video; but AWD and 4x4 in title.
The Transit you have tested is the basic Modell. You can also get a bigger Display, Blindspot information
That’s all they had. We are trying to get our hands on a new one. We got to test our friends in this video. th-cam.com/video/lX5toMMlj-w/w-d-xo.html
I’m just imagining the reaction of the MB dealer when you kookz roll in! 💜
They probably were like, "who told the hippies we have free starbucks?!"
I hope to test drove one of these for the next couple years!
Just go do it today. It's free, and fun. Until you see the price tag 😆 🤣 😂
Mercedes are great for frequent flyers. Every time they leave for a few weeks the van can be left for repairs at the dealership.
We have very little problems with our 2007 Dodge Sprinter. We have 215k miles on it and we’ve never had anything major happen. We just maintain it and get all the required services and it’s in great condition.
I feel your pain, electronics suck in German vehicles
We went with the winnebago Revel, we have only had a mercedes for last 20 years and other than routine maintenance and a battery or two we have been very happy so that’s why we stayed with a benz
🙌 💰 💵 💎 🚐
Van Kookz I sold my 87 VW Westy to get the Revel. I had this Westy for 12 years it was completely redone and I had great adventures in it. Now time for new adventures in the Revel
The transit is so much simpler including repairs!
Yes they are. Thanks for all your advice!
Yea the maintenance will be another huge price point
Yea the maintenance will be another huge price point
Yep
Transit will be more reliable. Its a ford
They're compare a base work van vs Upgraded sprinter
Just bought only T150 XL mid roof 10 passenger AWD w HD tow package between Detroit and Kansas City... one step up 8 inch screen. Amazeballs!!!
The ford dealership told us they had fully loaded high top transits. SO we drove over an hour and all they had was the awd work truck. The work truck ended up being a clients van and the young ambitious salesman was reamed right in fornt of us.
simplicity is what i will go when i will buy mine. But looks like i will go for a transit high roof super extended 6 wheel, all wheel drive 9950GVWR, 4.10 limited slip axle. A bad ass.
And if they are available! Damn covid has all production back logged 😳
That bulkhead wall behind the seats in the Transit is fugly. Looks like it would be a pain to rip out. My 2016 Sprinter has a 5 year power train warranty, I would think the new ones are the same. Stoked to see you guys flip your rigs and start again! Haha
Yeah they do have the 5 year power train with option of 5 year extended warranty. That transit was built for a contractor so you can get them without it. It was the only AWD they had when they told us there were 5 AWDs at the lot and when we got there they had none. If we are able to sell both vans we are definitely considering a new one.
Hi! I am looking at getting a 2020 Ford Transit, and I was wondering what specifications you guys were considering and which ones I should consider? Thanks!
We like the shorter tall tops. But the Sprinter is really hands down the best van out.
@@Vankookz what makes the sprinter the best? I’ve heard of terrible reliability issues with the sprinters and massive repair costs
Not really a fair test. That Transits bare bones that Mercedes was fully loaded.
Yeah the ford dealership told us they had transits but then when we showed up all
They had was one which was already sold it was weird. We are still on the hunt
@@Vankookz before the Coronapocalypse hit I was looking at buying a new transit fully loaded to build out for about 55, 60k. But because of the virus I backed out at the last minute. I got super lucky at a used dealership and found a nearly new bare bones 2019 transit for 27k in Pueblo Colorado. The exact same van in green 6 months ago was going for 45k at a Ford dealer in Colorado Springs. I pick up the keys in the morning. Going cheap has it's own value sometimes. Good luck on your search. Shiney side up.
good choice!
Titles video 4x4 vs AWD. Spends whole video talking about infotainment systems, backup cameras and seat trims. I love the simplicity of the Ford. Would take it over the sprinter in a heartbeat.
You came off very pretentious when you sat in that Transit.
Stoned
lol yes and i think at the end they bought an old one
Thoughts on buying a new Transit AWD or buying used and upfitting to 4x4?
MB not a consideration for all the reasons posted--regarding cost, service, limited dealership, etc.
They are both great vans
Unlimited Hotspot with purchase of a Sprinter? I can't find this info anywhere. Are you sure?
What about the Promaster? From cargo room standpoint, it is the largest, specially widthwise
We thought about heading to the Ram dealership but they are just so ugly and they don’t have much clearance so we stuck to the vans with 4x4 or AWD
Pro master is a POS. Never even left the dealer lot cause it sucked so bad on the ride out to the exit gate.
We have a ford transit with the 3.5 ecoboost and love it. I’m a diesel guy at heart but there is so much complexity with new diesel emissions and diesel in general (egr cooler, egr valve, expensive common rail injectors, scr, dpf, expensive fuel filters, algae issues with diesel, fuel gelling when cold, diesel about .50 cent a gallon more than gas here right now, crappy heat out a diesel until they warm up which takes a while (I’ve owned 8 diesel pickups....) the ecoboost has 400lb torque at a usable rpm and pulls like a scalded dog. I won’t be going back to diesel unless it’s pre emission.
Ecoboost have know oil burning problems and carbon build up.
Any one have a. Idea on what the fuel economy difference is between the 3.5 EcoBoost. Transit PSD diesel, and the 3.0 liter Sprinter diesel. My thought is if there is not 30 percent fuel economy improvement with diesel then stay with gasoline engine. Due to emissions systems on diesels they can become expensive to keep running after warranty
There's a sweet 2019 Steel Blue one here in NC -- you can say with us as you complete the deal!!
Haha! If only I had the 60k! We are more of a used van purchaser
I had a heart stopping snowy mountain range experience in a sprinter, man, it was all over the road. I was surprised. I was glad I wasn't driving. I was rear wheel drive. Do they have awd?
Should have bought the 4x4 it’s awesome
I’m thinking of upgrading to an AWD Transit from my 2WD Transit. After a trip up to Tuktoyaktuk, and 30,000miles in a year, I would highly recommend the Transit van. The other thing is there’s a better dealer network for Fords and as a certified mechanic, I’m looking at the repairability of a vehicle before I purchase it. I think Ford does that better too. The other thing that’s a killer for me when it comes to the sprinter, is that the 4x4 Low range is hardly lower then if you get a transit van with the 4.10 rear differential. I put the 4.10 in my van and it cruises nicely on the highway, but it climbs the hills even better because of the better torque from the rear differential. On my trip up north, I averaged 20mpg which is very decent and that’s with the old 3.7 naturally aspirated engine and the 6 speed auto. I imagine with fords newer 3.5 PFDI engine, the Ten speed and even with AWD, you will see similar numbers with the 4.10 differentials. 4.10’s also make a huge difference in fuel economy when the van is loaded with your house. Anyways, that’s my 2 cents! Love the Ford transit, but I also love the sprinter, for my needs, the transit was what fit the bill.
This is great thanks for all this info
I have a 350HD EXT with 3.5 EcoBoost and 3.73 diff. I would not trade for anything else.
I test drove a 2020 Transit with the 8” screen and 360 cameras and it was very well done. Fords SYNC 3 is one of the best, plus CarPlay. But I’m thinking about getting a 2019 New. It doesn’t have as much tech, but you can’t get a really sweet android radio for the dash that is 10”, you can get a 2019 loaded for only $35 brand new. Pretty great deal for practically the same van plus the 6 speed is tried and true on the 19
With the savings you can get a quigley conversion on the transit and have a true 4x4 system for much less than the sprinter.
2019 Sprinters now finally comes in gas version. So compare gas to gas or diesel to diesel then price tag wont be much of a deference
Hello brother
I want buy van can you give me your advice please, 99% of people they told me buy Mercedes van sprinter but when I watch this this video i got confused which one i have to choose.
and What kind of fuel to choose?
Gas or diesel.Thank you
They are both great vans. The Benz will last longer
The availability of front swivel seats are a "must have" for my build. I know Mercedes offers them. Do you know if Ford does? So far I can't find any info so maybe not? Thanks
If not they are very easy to install
Yes, swivel seats are available from the factory on a new vehicle or after market by installing a swivel seat base (which would be your only option if buying used)
Stay away from that Mercedes it cost you more to fix it stay with the transit all wheel drive can't go wrong with that
Yeah they are both so legit. If anyone ended up with either van they made the right decision to get a van!
I know I'm late to the party but this is still a great video! Not many people show the exact amount you'd end up paying when buying one of these! BTW, which van did ya'll end up going with? I searched your channel for the follow up video but couldn't find it!
Thanks dude! We appreciate that! Lots of hate on this video but you know what's up! We never ended up selling the other van and kept it and rocked it all summer! Had a blast not sure what we will do next as far as vans go but we will always be uploading helpful content to the channel.
Also we may try the 2021's soon so check back.
you guys are so cool
Thanks qwerty since you found this channel you are now cool too!
You need to compare a fully loaded transit with the 3.5L Twin-Turbo. It will destroy any of the Sprinter engines.
This isn't a drag race
Yep, I have that. My van rips!
2021 Merc vs 2021 Transit Drag Race coming soon!
Expensive af either way
Sprinter if you´re rich, Transit for the rest of us. No brainer. With 15K difference I´ll make the transit look fantastic. The 64k Sprinter is empty, so it will end up costing so much more. Mercedes maintenance is ridiculously expensive.
100% you could build out a transit with that extra $15k!
I’ve heard sprinter is terrible reliability and DEF system breaks down constantly
I purchased the Ford Transit instead of the Mercedes Sprinter: more dealerships, cheaper repairs, interior nicer (subjective).
Do you know if many people rent these? I want to buy one to rent out. I see very few available on turo
@@donaldsawyer2618 Buy the ford. Parts are cheaper, easy to come by and very smooth to drive. Also, very easy to rent out.
@@foxycat8751 Thank You. May I ask 15 passenger or courier without seats? I’m sure 15
Made in Germany is the best ! Sprinter plays in another leage ! regards from CH
New sprinters are made in the USA. 2018 was the last year they were made in Germany.
......... if you like a van that's always in the shop!
@@bjbhehir Do you own a sprinter?
@@xil355ify I do, what do you want to know???
We have a 2008 sprinter with 213K miles on it and have had it for almost 4 years now. We've had some work done but in the end its just a little bit more expensive on the maintenance end. But gas savings are triple most other vans so it ends up balancing out pretty good.
'Don't know what this is, mayby its airconditioning'🤦♂️whahaha really smart thinking
Good luck with your Sprinter.
Thanks! Ive had mine for 5 years now 220K miles and crushing it! The ford would have died already
Also transit has swivel seat option.
They both do
9 months since this video...any regrets? Any packages you wish you'd not got? Please explain Mercedes "Acoustic Package ".
We didn’t get either. We never sold our current van and upgraded it quite a bit.
Where is the drag race?
That would have been awesome
Mercedes is very proud of their $20k 4x4 option, and it is the weakest "4x4" system on the planet. Open diffs front and rear and you can't even lock the center diff! Like the year 1970, you have to stop to engage it. The Transit has a way more modern system. You should also try the Ecoboost Transit, it has a lot of power. Happy shopping!
Yeah the eco boost is the way to go
They also make it in power stroke diesel. Didn’t know that the 4x4 wasn’t the best but now we do!
@@Vankookz I don't want to plug my own website on your channel, (so I won't) but if you're interested in the reasons I feel that way check out the article on my website. (it's in the van build section) Take care!
@@ourkaravan we don't mind the plug! We love your channel!
@@Vankookz Ha, thanks, and back at ya!
Eco boost is overkill IMHO for most owners. Unless you are towing or you've converted the van and it weighs a ton.
but if buyers want it, why not.
I’ve heard of people with Sprinters getting stranded due to a much smaller dealer network. Also, unless you can delete the exhaust system in your area, it’s the cause of most of the issues with the Sprinter. I’m sure a fully loaded Transit with the large screen will be comparable but for much less. Also, full time AWD is nice and the Sprinter 4X4 is low tech. You need to be stopped to engage it.
100% true on all accounts!
I just want something I can put 500k miles on with no issues..lol
Me too
A few things not mentioned. The sprinter is a diesel meaning more expensive for maintenance & oil changes,DEF..... Other thing is finding a Mercedes dealer that could work on it. if out traveling if it were to break down. Have to have a certified diesel mechanic to work on it. Also cost of a mercedes is always more money.
Thanks for the good info BBBY
Any mechanic/tech should be a wrencher and knowledgeable of all work they accept. Some new techs don't have enough experience to keep up with all of Fords' changes every year to transmissions, gas engines, and electronics. A new package every year means new challenges.
@@yosquidd242 The other thing is that for the high roof sprinters they don't always have a lift that can get them high enough in the garage
Thought this is gonna be an offroad battle
If the dealership would have let us we would have.
VW grafter with the new gearbox is gonna be a worthwhile look
I wonder if they will sell it in the US?
@@Vankookz
Have a gander
Going off your lifestyle and life's ambitions the VW offering maybe the perfect fit
Did some digging and found some interesting information. We noticed when we were in Baja there were lots of the VW vans. We wondered why we never saw them in the US. After A quick Wikipedia search I found this.
Like the second generation LT, the first generation Crafter is a rebadged Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, built by Daimler AG,[1] with a powertrain by Volkswagen.[2] The Daimler variant has been also sold by Daimler as the Freightliner Sprinter and Dodge Sprinter. An all-electric variant, the e Crafter, is scheduled for retail sales in 2017.[3]
I had no idea!
@@Vankookz I hope I helped in your next adventure 😊
Please keep me updated on what you go for
But from I can see the VW crafter will bring u a new dynamic
04:12 You should have included the Promaster. The front pillars are even bigger and truly are a hazard for the unaware driver. No less than two times I've had pedestrian close calls and I am a safe driver with no accidents or tickets for 40 years.
Transit van no question.
I’ve been driving sprinters and transits for years as an RV exec. They are both fantastic vans. The driving experience in the ford transit (if it has the eco boost) is very comfortable. It’s as if you’re driving a crossover suv. Ford really nailed the seat and the steering wheel ergonomics. The Sprinter definitely has more of a truck feel to it. That isn’t necessarily a bad thing though. A lot of people prefer that sort of ride. The sprinter is definitely a higher seated position as well. And hearing that Mercedes turbo diesel is awesome. When you price out it out they are both in the 60k price range if you option for the AWD or 4X4 with the heavy duty suspension.
If you are considering buying a new van to convert you should consider getting the heavy duty package with dullies. The stability they offer when you’re van is fully loaded down is very satisfying. It’s also gonna make the vehicle ride better for longer.
Wow! Thanks for the good info!
Which one has a galvanised body
Not sure. I hope MB is painting the vans better the old models rust up like a tin can
I wouldn't buy the Sprinter just on cost of maintenance alone.
Bottom Line: Ford Makes Dependable Vehicles fit and finish are acceptable and definitely better than the RAM. The AWD I’d definitely the way to go on vehicles like this. If you prefer 4x4 , want a higher ride height, air ride seats, heavy duty frame and a beautiful ride Benz is the way to go. Mercedes maintenance and repairs are NOT for the weak and definitely will get your attention. That is the trade off.
Thanks for the solid information!
The merc is 4x4 with transfer case and low range. The Ford is awd not the same thing. Ford is for slippery conditions not for off-road . Just look at the ground clearance.
Yes this is very true!
This guy does a nice comparison, ourkaravan.com/4x4_sprinter_and_transit_vans/
Check out U Joint Offroad. Best E series ford van 4x4 conversion company. They’re getting into suspension kits (including lifts) for the new AWD transit.
2” lift for ford transit AWD will make it unstoppable in all conditions!
Thx for video, though fully loaded Transit would have been a better apples to apples comparison. Main factors for which to buy are Cost (purchase price/maintenance), AWD vs 4WD, Power. Cost, Transit wins by $10,000-$15,000 or more. Ford's advanced AWD is far safer and practical on paved roads and highway, yet usable off road too. Mercedes 4WD is superior off road and useable on road under 50 mph, but arguably unsafe at highway speeds. Power, no contest as Ford has the 3.5 EcoBoost Twin Turbo beast of a motor. Put a tune on it for less than $1,000 and get another 50-100 HP.
My choice would be a high roof, medium length, AWD Transit, fully loaded, with aluminum wheels (powder coat gloss black), black leather, 10 passenger version, with a 2 inch lift beefier suspension kit, off road tires, front and rear bumper guards, to convert with modular kitchen, shower, rear dining/sleep shelf, with rear water on one side and power on the other (rear wheel well area) and wall cabinets, where I can switch the van from cargo, passenger, to RV, at my leisure. Storyteller Vans and Outside Vans have the right idea, just more modular capabilities are needed.
Though I do like the brand and looks of the Mercedes over the Transit, yet the Ford wins on the price, road capability of AWD, and power. 😉👍
Thanks for the great information dude!
Thanks for the thoughtful and positive reply. To be clear....the Ford has better power?
Been thinking about sprinter for a lonnng long time. IMHO, the allure of the sprinter is a hype that been born out of social media . You have sprinter your cooler , and your more hip. Most decked out ones are owned by people with alot of money. What about reality though? , after alot of " practical reviews" sprinter scares me . Most people will NOT put tons of miles on these engines, so diesel is a lost economy. Not to mention if your buying" new"your telling me can't you afford gasoline economy?
Now the transit arrives , I don't like it as much I think it's "looks " aren't there , that how much the sprinter vibe has biased me. But with Transit there goes ALL the fears that comes with possible sprinter ownership . I drive a Chevy Uplander full of camping, outdoor and SUP gear. Doesn't owe me a dime.
As to transit or sprinter I believe The Choice is clear.
The sprinter is way more flash that for sure. They are just a better looking van. But the transit has come a long way. I wish Toyota made a US cargo van. We would defiantly buy another sprinter they are great vans.
2016 model ford transit glass wan delux model vs 2016 model mercedes glass wan vs video ? I am winner ford transit thankyou 😊
Isn't the benz is better at crash test?
Not sure
breaking news, ford still doesn't know people are CHOOSING to live in work vans. So they are still building work vans.
This is true their minds were blown we we showed them our van
Maint. cost on the sprinter will make your eyes water. If your going for a real off road camper the mb with more ground clearance and 4wd would be more capable but for the vast majority the fords awd is more than enough.
Couldn't agree more dude!
It not a fair comparison, you need to drive the transit t- 350 full time four wheel. Also the repair sticker is way to high in the Mercedes. Ford are easy to repair and shops are available all over the USA. You can have many other accessories with the Mercedes but you are paying a lot of money 💰. The transit is easy and cheaper to do any upgrades. Thank for the video. There is many things you can do with the transit.
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Hell Yeah
I had both, and ford is better for repair, and in the ford behind the mirror cover is rain sensor and line departure camera
Hello brother
I want buy van can you give me your advice please, 99% of people they told me buy Mercedes van sprinter but when I watch this this video i got confused which one i have to choose.
and What kind of fuel to choose?
Gas or diesel.Thank you
@@sdaaize by a Mercedes is more reliable and has more space
@@sdaaize get it with diesel is way better
@@sdaaize i already had to take my ford to the dealer because engine oxygen sensor problem and it's only have 45000m
@@reinaldoreyes3159 thank you brother I appreciate it.
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Totally dude.
Do you know there are currently 13 Quigley converted true 4x4 (not AWD) Transits on the lot at Newburg Ford in Newburg OR right now? Pricing for high roof versions from the high $50's to mid $60K. Quigley conversions use factory Ford parts from the F250/350?, and carry a full warranty serviceable at any Ford dealer. Check out the link: www.newbergford.com/new-commercial-inventory?SolrBody=Van%204X4
Newburg Ford sucks
Hate to say it but did he go to school
School is for fools!
@@Vankookz Yes, way too expensive for what you get. And no refunds or ROI of fake knowledge. Education loans, high school tuition payments, just to fake it. American Schools produce bullies and fools.
ford transit van is my biggesssssssst love !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!💜💙💚
Glad you love it so much!
A lot of people don't go over the interior options. Mercedes blows a transit away in tech that's for sure.
The Merc is straight Ballin. I feel it's too much nonsense. I miss the good ole days when cars were simple. We have an 07 Sprinter and it's just engine and steering wheel just like it should be.
Comparing apples and pears. Good try, just do a more fair comparison next time and also space tests, mpg, etc
Yeah... We know the Ford dealership lied when they told us they had AWD transits fully loaded. Instead they had someone's work van that they accidentally let us drive. The salesman got reamed in front of us. The professionalism from Mercedes to Ford is comparable as well as the vans. The sprinter is the king of the cargo vans.
Enterprise car sales has high roof vans now.
Good to know.... Im sure they are all gone.
Ford !
Wooo hoooo!!!!
Transit is times more reliable.
I got a 2018 sprinter, maintenance is so expensive and paint in the ass to get auto parts, honestly Chevy, dodge or Ford is the best choice , I’m ready to get another vehicle and return this....!!!!
I'm 5' tall - how tall are each of you?
Bgrrrl333 Kevin is 6’1 and I am 5’3
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haha Kevin wishes he got that flashy rig, pretty sure you can buy a sprinter and a transit for the same price haha! Hope you made it back to the East Coast alright!
Apples and Oranges comparisons, Diesel is much more expensive than Gas, shorter van vs Longer van. The Sprinter requires service every 20,000 miles or once a year. Resale is much better in Sprinter. Check out total cost of operations www.mbvans.com/sprinter/shopping-tools/cost-operation
The standard powertrain warranty on Mercedes is 5 years 100,000 miles, 3 years 36,000 mile on the rest of the van, what they are talking about is a extended warranty to make it all 5 years 100,000 miles
This is great!
Just ran a comparison between the Mercedes 170 diesel and Ford HR 148 el the Mercedes cost .54 a mile to own the Ford cost .57 a mile. Ford is cheaper up front but more for maintenance, insurance, fuel and depreciation. I have a client that has 10 vans, he got 400k miles out of his Sprinters before he replaced them with Fords. At 180k he has replaced 7 of the 10 transmissions, 2 engines, and he says he has paid for so many wheel bearings that he has lost count. It’s about total cost of ownership.
I would go sprinter all the way. Reasons: 1-less maintenance. Maybe more expensive but less often.
2- 4x4 on sprinter is really better than all wheel drive. You can literally lock the front and back drive train but also lock all 4 wheels together. If you think of going off-road it’s a must.
Yes could t agree more! We have had a sprinter for almost 4 years it has 215k miles and runs like a champion! 🥊
Hi@@Vankookz , do you have any idea how much money did you spent in maintenance to keep the van running with 215k miles? Thx.
That is a great selling point for off road, I took mine and wow it was unstoppable. For a regular camper or even a service truck like mine, AWD is good enough. My Benz with the 4x4 and air ride seats is very comfy though. It also has a heavier solid feeling over the Ford. Maintenance Sucks and so do the repairs on Benz
Yes the Sprinter is all the Blitz in the pizzazz but the four will cost you weigh less in the long run to own even just for 5 years Beltway better smarter so you make a decision and there's $20,000 less sticker for basically the same platform even if you throw 5-6 grand at it, to personalize...in the end the American Benz is Shite friends, sorry wouldn't own a MB product in America period!
We have a 2008 sprinter with 213K miles on it and have had it for almost 4 years now. We've had some work done but in the end its just a little bit more expensive on the maintenance end. But gas savings are triple most other vans so it ends up balancing out pretty good.
Beavis and Butthead test two vans.
Shut up Butthead!
Lousy comparison on the 2 vans. Mercedes only offers a diesel on the 4x4 vans. Also the body panels and possibly frame are galvanized on the Mercedes and I don't think this the case on the Ford.when an owner lives in the rust belt that's a big deal. Mercedes also has a much better lease options which makes it more attractive for most owners that are concerned about monthly payments.
Hey, thanks for sharing that info with some vehicle review kookz!
Comparing a diesal dually sprinter to a base model gas single tire transit no comparison
I'll give you a million Vankookz Crypto coins if you can rock up to a Ford dealership these days and actually find and test drive a Tall AWD transit sitting in their lot...
I own a Mercedes car and I will buy a Ford Transit for my convention. The Ford is lower cost and service will be a lot lower cost
My Mercedes dealer charges so much I end up doing the work myself for a fraction of the cost on my car
Yeah we don’t go to the stealerships there are plenty of independent Diesel mechanics out there.
Nice apples and oranges comparison. Try again.
It really was we were hoping the Transit actually competed but the Benz took the cake
I sense too much marijuana usage ?
Sensi
I own a Sprinter 2008 with 422,000 miles on it.
Diesel nowadays is a BIG NO.
EGR, DPF, DEF... it is something many people doesn't know how fu!$÷ expensive it is until they have to pay for it.
We are in America. Gas price is super cheap... Buy anything that has a Gas powered engine and timing CHAIN instead timing belt.
Buying a 4x4 or AWD is stupid. You don't want to do off road with your complete house behind you. Just get a bicycle rack and 2 bikes.
Danm 422,000! That’s awesome we have a 2007 with 210,000 miles on it and just upgraded it.
Yeah we agree on 4x4 but sometimes we wish our van was 4x4 when it come to steep lose dirt, snow, mud, and sand. Yeah ours has had quite a few repairs but we take good care of her.
4X4 or AWD is a must if you boondock off road a bit with your camper van.
The title is misleading, should have just been called test driving a fully loaded sprinter vs a basic transit lol. Still you got a like and subscribe because you seem like cool peeps. ✌😎
Good point. The dealership lied and told us they has fully loaded AWD transits so we drove an hour+ to the stealership and they lied and we drove a customers work truck. The young cocky Ford salesman was reamed right in front of us. The experience at Merc was so much better too bad it was $60K+
I own a fleet of 32 vans mix of MBZ & Transits.
MBZ cons
Turning Radius sucks
Lower headroom than HR transit
Diesel DPF reliability
Low takeoff power
Transit cons
5 cyl diesel sucks too many recalls
Fuel mileage sucks on Gas engines
Test drive transit 148” WB Extended Dually HR 3.5 eco boost. You will not regret that!!
Ford is much cheaper in the long run, with 10 times bigger dealership network if you plan to travel; Mercedes parts are always on back order & most dealers are more focused on cars & SUV’s.
My sprinters get the redhead stepchild treatment when it goes into service.
Ford dealerships are very well equipped as most police cruisers ambulances f150 utilizing similar platform as transit.
I get my vans back faster with less parts issues.
Great info! Thanks! We have a 2007 Dodge Sprinter with 215k and it runs like a champion every time!
Van Kookz dose your have DPF?
It's interesting hearing that you felt like you had no room up front because they're the exact same width. It would be nice to know how you feel if you didn't have the retainer wall behind you.
I know dude. The ford dealership said they had tall top AWD vans to test drive and when we showed up they only had some random work truck. But we really like the transits.
@@Vankookz I need to start test driving. I'm just afraid of all the wasted time these dealerships will put me through. I don't want to buy until December. I'm still up in the air between Sprinter and Transit, but those AWD Transits seem like a lot lower cost and headache.
If they made the sprinter 7' wide, everyone would buy that
True.... Wise words Big Dog!