As always, good advice. I've been doing a lot of riding on a 150 cc scooter. My biggest day was 250 miles. It was mountain roads, mostly twisty and some dirt. Still had time to talk with people, have a picnic lunch, bird watched, and took photos. Still felt good at the end of the day. In the US recreation vehicle travelers use the 3, 3, 3, rule. Three rest/fuel stops, 300 miles, and end the day by 3 o'clock.
I've done 200 miles on a 110cc. Half was tarmac and the rest was very rugged dirt. Took me 10 hours including a puncture. At first I regretted it but now I can't wait to do it again
Take note of what this man says - he knows! If you want to ride fast, why bother with a trip, go ride on a track. If you are on a trip, take the time to see what there is to be seen and experience the places. I love to stop and smell the flowers, taste the stream water (within reason of course), listen to the sounds etc. That to me is a trip so I plan to have time for all of this. The kilometers are just part of the trip.
Following your footsteps is helping us (new riders) to have the pleasure of the ride with confidence. Thanks for these precious recommendations, Pavlin. Appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
These are great guidelines for distance. I just got through a 350km and 700km day to break in a new bike before heading out on a 5000km trip. This gave me a good idea of where my comfort levels were and how often I would need a short break to stretch or grab a photo or a longer break for food and fuel. This will be my first trip over 1000km and your videos have been very motivating.
So great advices for less experienced riders :) When I started to watch your channel few years ago I did a same mistake as your friend - Balkans in two weeks. It was insane! I also stopped riding longer trips with friends because of that constant tiredness. This year I did smaller journey into Balkans. Just less points to see a distances to ride. I didn't see all what I planned but it was one of the best Holidays I ever had. I stay relaxed, I enjoyed food, views and even met new friends! What I don't visit - I can see next time. It's a motivation now . Thanks for the priceless lessons Pavlin :)
I find that newbies are more optimistic until the first 1000km day on the highway, then they either abandon the trip or they start being reasonable :) Particularly on long range trips I personally find that less is more, less kms, less speed equals more fun, more people you can meet, more places you can see. Then of course it's a matter of personal preference if you like to ride off road or you like to get to your destination by the shortest and fastest route. My personal preference is no more than 500km highway transfers and no more than 350 400 on secondary roads.
Agree 100% with you and with Pavlin. To be honest, instead of measuring kms, I started measuring hours of fun i.e. how many hours of fun I want to do for the day :). Highways are boring and noisy so I use them only when necessary.
Great video as usually Pavlin. For me the sweet spot is between 230 and 250km per day. Transitdays around 500km max. I can go for weeks and weeks at this pace without getting totally burned out in a matter of days.
I live in India, where the average speeds are lower than the West. With time, I've come to see that an estimate of 50 kmph is realistic across the course of most days ( not including off road or village roads ) factoring in food, petrol, toilet and stretching breaks. In our weather , it makes sense to start really early ( 5 am for me), and end early to mid - afternoon so as to be fresh for the next day.
At the end of september i will start my motorbike trip and the plan is avoid highway, ride slowly and try do not exceed 250 km average x day in order to enjoy the trip and be satisfied every day without be too tired. Thanks for your advise, most of the time common sense is the key.
This one is easy!! When you have had enough stop. Never push on for the sake of it by then the fun has all gone. Ride your ride. Enjoy your ride. Be safe be kind. 👍👍👍
Just completed a 725 Kilometer (450 Mile) journey from the top of Ireland (Malin Head) to the bottom of Ireland (Mizen Head) in one day (13.5 hours) on a Vespa 300 and it's so true what you say about missing so much in between. I need to do it again but over a few days.
alway better to take extra time to take it all in just toured and vloged my way around the N500 took a week some do it in a few day's they must miss so much ..Island's on my to do list
This video is very accurate. I did a 14 hour bike ride with pillion on my Yamaha FZ 150 this year; We tackled almost every situation like city traffic, highways, village roads, no roads, ghats, water crossings, sand and even rode the bike over a land slide. What I learned from that experience is 1) Load maps beforehand. 2) know the limits of your bike. 3) Sleep well the day before. the ride. 4) Take calculated risks. 5) Always have a backup power source for charging devices.
July this year I did a trip Kołobrzeg (Polish seaside) to Lisbon. Ca 3500 km there and 3500 km back. It was 5 days there and 5 days back. Mostly highways, but speed max. 120 kmh. It was partially extremely hot, till 44oC. My bike is 2006 Harley Davidson Electra, im 68 years old. It was wonderful ride. Greetings from Poland.
Pavlin you are so right, and your numbers are not exaggerated at all!!! After 34 years of riding, and one year of subscribing to your channel, I finally learned how to ride🍺😎👌🏆👍❤
Excellent advice. I do even less than you recommend. 4 hours in saddle is full day, I almost never exceed 5 days. It’s worked all over the world. 75 countries so far and almost never tired. Long hard days were when I was sailing around world on my yacht or cycling. Motorcycling is easy compared to that. But never rush life. I have the time 😅
Pavlin, I took a trip in July and I made so many of these mistakes. My first day was 850 KM and by the end of the day I was completely tired. By the end of the second day my right hand couldn't engage my throttle lock. Day three both arms were numb most of the day and my legs were killing me. Day four was a race to get back home and recoup. I am glad for the experience but the trip was very disheartening because I experienced so little and was in a fair amount of pain most of the trip. Thank you for all you do to teach and help us to keep from making these mistakes.
As I get older I find that time on the bike is a bigger factor than distance, 6-8 hours is close to my maximum, so whatever distance I do in that time is what I do. It is not for everyone as most people have a time limit on a trip be it time off work or visa limitations, which is a bit of a pain so I guess you have to plan around that. A lot depends how I am feeling during the day, if I feel okay on the bike I keep riding but sometimes it is hard to get in the groove so I will stop more which uses up time therefore limiting the distance. I budget on shorter distances now to allow for more time to take in my surroundings and enjoy the trip.
After 5-6 hours everything starts hurting: head due to my long oval head, knees due to uncomfortable position, ass due to stiff seat (even with an inflatable pillow). Maybe I could ride longer if I made brakes more often (every hour). Distance is not so important, since it depends on the road type. Thanks for a great video! You never disappoint! ☺️
what you're said is so true. I've done a few group rides and spent most of the time on the highway which is what I didn't want to do 🙄 won't be making that mistake again 👍
So spot on, Pavlin, congratulations. There are so many factors, but the main one is being overambitious. I tend to think more in hours than kilometers spent. As a Husky 701 Enduro rider, I realize that the type of road highly influences my riding experience. 8 hours of highway and I'll be dead tired. 8 hours on primary roads are similar if they are too straight. But 8 hours of twisty mountain roads in Switzerland or northern Italy and I feel rejuvenated. As for dirt, I plan a max of 6 hours per day and keep 2 hours as reserve for unforeseeable difficulties. And if it's getting tight, 4 hours are already a lot. Nad ever forget: plan riding hours AND sightseeing/eating/justenjoying the scenery times too. Bottomline: 6 hours of pure riding perdayseems perfect in order to notonly transverse a landscape but fee, enjoy and see it. Just my 2 cents as newbie 😃
Absolutely right. I did 5 days oner ,2200km for round trip at my own country. Where I feel lucky nowadays we get gather information so easily and most importantly can booked accommodation anywhere anytime. But fitness and enough rest is the key to complete this endurance long trip. Sometimes I need some rain because overhere Malaysia the weather is hot humid. According to me anyway. Cheers
250 miles a day in the UK is my preference. Allows for stops and a decent lunch break. No rush, no dangerous riding etc. Arriving relaxed and ready to have a good evening of chat and fun.
I totally agree that it depends on many factors, from the type of the roads and what you want to see to the weather and how you feel on that particular day. I started riding 2 years ago and despite being a very experienced traveler with good planning skills I am still learning how to plan as a rider :) So far I found my upper limit to be around 300km per da, a bit more if it is a straight highway. Maybe not much but it allows to enjoy the ride and not to be in a hurry.
Thanks for the another great advice. I am planing a trip around the Adriatic Sea next year. I plan to do no more than 300km avg per day for 15days and avoid highways as much as I can. My primary goal is to take it easy and enjoy the places I visit. I did some "rushed" trips before and there were not much fun. We shall see how it plays in reality next year.
Once talked a guy who traveled from Serbia to Mongolia. For the question what should be do otherwise if he would start the journey today he just answered that he would plan it twice as long as it was been.
My sweet spot for highway is 600 kms. More than 600 only if I come back home and can rest after that. On secondary roads it really depends from the road condition, when you wakeup and start.
Primary, secondary, and tertiary routes. Learned it growing up as a kid on the reservation. Marine Corps reinforced it. It has served me well throughout my life. I've known too many guys that planned 1000k per day that learned the hard way that what you have said is reasonable and realistic. (I live in the U.S.) Making a goal and enjoying a goal are two entirely different things.
Great advice Pavlin, your numbers are spot on. I too have regrets from trips that COULD have been amazing but I was in such a rush I missed all the golden opportunities to stop and really SEE the places I was passing through. 12,000km in 14 days (I even got home 2 days early LOL) - idiot. Nowadays I ride a MUCH smaller bike, and go slower on secondary roads. Much more pleasant. Also, a lot of new travellers forget that you really need to take a day off every few days. Travelling every single day will burn you out quickly.
Also if you are camping each night 400-500 kms/day might be the maximum because of all the time each day to set up camp @ night & pack up each morning.
I average around 300km daily and just occasionally double that on certain circumstances, my last trip around Thailand took me 24 days at 7200km on a 110 cc bike. Even on bigger bike (GSA1200LC or Triumph 1200) I put around same limit otherwise I will not see much. I try my best to avoid highways, Thailand has beautiful scenic route.
I'm leaving for Croatia from the Czech Republic by (naked) motorcycle in a few days. Waiting for the right moment without any(or at least without heavy) rain. I could do the distance in one go in a car, but I think I'll break the journey midway somewhere in Slovenia/beginning of Croatia where I'd like to avoid taking the highway anyway. Great points as always, Pavlin!👍
next week I'm going on an enduro motorcycle for a month, I plan to do between 5000 or 6000 kilometers in 25 days and 5 days off ,about 250 kilometers a day more or less hehe I have everything planned, 75 off-road 25 on the road, I always plan off-road, I like it better, greetings
Really good advice. I ride in Indonesia where conditions are as you might expect- different. Lots of wandering animals, lots of kids walking home ftom school, lots of school kids (12 - 18) riding scooters crazily, poor/misleading signage unmarked dangerous obstacles, overloaded trucks, lots of flouting of road laws etc. I rarely exceed 75kph and probably average about 50 kph on a day's ride on bitumen roads. I've come off twice in 11 years riding. No one else involved - just me and a chopped up road or me and sand in a corner. From my experience the one thing I will never do again is ride at night because the weather, or some unforeseen event, has prevented me from reaching my planned stop for the night. Over the years, I've done this 3 times. I've never enjoyed it and have promised myself, I will never do it again. I'll carry a tent or sleep under a tree!
Weather/gear is such a big factor. Just couple days ago tested my "new" XT600 project after repairing it for few days and rode about 120km's on very small gravel roads. Quite puny distance, but it was +10C and I had bit too little to wear. Few hours and my hands and forehead was feeling quite uncomfortable. Without a doubt would've gotten ill if I'd continue to ride for double the time or distance. I'd definitely say that weather is always a factor to consider. Especially for someone like me who has had slipped discs in back which could (and usually will) begin to disturb in certain conditions.
I've done once 1900km in one go. But only one reason for that was bad weather in the eastern part of the EU. I was heading to Spain from Lithuania and I rushed to escape the bad weather. The bike was Honda VFR800 2005. It felt terrible later. I had such a headache and buzzing in my ears that I don't recommend anyone ( I wore ear plugs) .
I agree with your mileage limits. I don't like to drive more than 400 miles (643 km) per day, and my preference is closer to 250 miles (400 km). I try to avoid interstate highways with very high-speed limits. I know you can drive more miles that way, but I don't enjoy the speed and wind noise. For me, the best speeds are closer to 60-65mph (95-105 kmh). So we are very similar!
My personal experience: I have done 1000km days a few times now, I do not want to do them again, this year I had two 650km days on my trip and it was pure highway and I didn't like those days :) Only had to do them because of tickets for the ships I needed to use to get across the sea. Now that I have a few bigger trips under my belt, 300km days are where I still feel that I have energy to do stuff other than riding, that means sight seeing, having decently long breaks for food and actually enjoy riding the next day as well. I do know a guy who likes to ride a lot, he even does Ironbutt rides a few times a year, and he is much older than I'm. If you enjoy that kind of thing, then sure. I can do it, but I prefer not to. Might do one at some point just to try it, but I'm not sure I will enjoy it :)
Agreed for 300-400 on twisties! Just did the road of the Grand Apls (Nice to Thonon) but starting from Marseille. 1000kms in three and a half days. It was really enjoyable. I had not much planned, just made sure I would end up somewhere I could camp and shower. It worked out perfect! It would need a lot more planning in other more remote countries. Even if you want to test your limits...you have to admit these limits! An adventure is supposed to be a good memory, a good experience! Not a burdain...
Depends on the bike, the circumstances, the conditions and the plan. 200 miles on a drz is not the same as 200 miles on a gold wing, and 200 miles offroad is a long day while 200 on a American interstate is what you cover before your lunch break.
In 2020 I rode 1350 km Warsaw - Dresden - Nurenberg - Munich - Zell-am-See. The most important lesson was that you are at the mercy of the weather elements. It was quite brutal not for just the miles but for two reasons: it was extreme heat mid-day in Germany and it rained late at night in the dark Alpine roads of Tyrol. You can't plan for this, weather affects the experience so heavily on a motorcycle, I would say enjoyable distance with good weather vs bad weather is different by at last 2 times. Intersting Pavlin that you cite your maximum exactly the same 1350 as mine :). Should I ever upgrade from my Versys 650 to a 1000, I may do an absolute Autobahn run just for s*its and giggles to top 2000 km.
I measure it in time, not distance. I get tired and the riding is not fun after 6 hours of it. So I ride 3 hours, make a long stop of maybe 40-45 minutes and ride 3 more hours. After that I know I'm close to the end of my patience and I have to stop for the day. If I'm using a highway, this tempo covers usually 600-700 km per day, depending on the traffic and weather. On normal, two-lane roads - usually 400 km. I know that is my limit, I leave about 10% in "reserve" and plan the length of my trips accordingly.
Exactly. Plan for flexibility. 2 days of hard riding really means that you need day off or at least low mileage for one day. Hours a day is more realistic. What is realistic is the actual average across your whole trip. And this doesn't even take into account the weather.
When starting a new trip i make miles like crazy the first days. After the thrill of the first days the mileage goes down slowly but surely. Later i don`t care at all how many i do....40 or 400. When i find a great place for the night I stop. After a couple of months when it is time to go back home the mileage goes up again.
With a passenger I have to let her set the mileage really, and to some degree the route. If she is happy I am relaxed. But even with a passenger your rules apply. Start early, constant speed to keep the average up. With this tactic the bike can be not big. Short or long trips. It's the same. 'Don't count the days, make the days count.' Good topic, happy travels 👍
That's a cunning plan ! - On most bikes the pillion/passenger seat looks much less comfortable than the rider's seat, so you just wait until they've had enough and then stop.. and you'll still be fine !.. Genius !!..
As a novice to travelling with my T7 I agree 😅. Did 730KM in a single day with the Ralley seat going from Munich to La Spezia … the last 200 were pure pain … next time no more than 400 max 500.
400 is even on the edge I would say, just spent day riding around eifel with few little stops I drove about 400km for 10 hours. It was ok since it was just one day trip and I had a lot of fun on twisty roads but if I would need to continue my journey next day I'd say no more than 300.
Hi Mr P, Is it possible to show the speed you are riding on the screen ? Sometimes, watching the scene you are going by, I wonder what the actual speed was; looked very fast but I thought not so because of the difficult terrain. Thanks for your videos.
I want to meet these people who travel with "no plans". Do they just have an app telling them when to go, stop and whether to turn left or right at the next junction? As for distance traveled, I think a full tank of fuel every day is a good metric. This is typically 300-400km, I also think less than 8h on the bike is preferable as otherwise it's like doing a shift at work. Take your time, stop to see things that are interesting, get off the bike and walk around, chat to some locals! Higher mileage and higher speeds means you spend your days staring at the road, which isn't the point of travel and certainly isn't adventure.
No usually take an old road map and go - its very hard to get really lost these days - not stupid or a millionaire.........very insulting Pavlin just because a person travels differently from you - you are not always right and sometimes talk complete B/S - don't have a smartphone, never bloody will - have a basic idea of where to go and the time to do it ie. the Black Sea and back........... that's about it ......... sometimes I get there, sometimes I don't who cares........... planning a trip doesn't mean a trip will be better and to say you see nothing is just bullshit - you will always see something - who really gives a flying f+ck how many monuments POI towns tourist attractions countries you've seen etc.
Some plan better than others. Back in the late 1970's I was one of many, in various groups, who planned to ride from Perth (Western Australia) to the motor cycle races at Bathurst (New South Wales). I was teamed up with an Army mate, just the two of us. That trip is about 3400 km each way. We saw many others at various fuel stops also heading the same way. About 260 km from the start we saw a Kawasaki heading back towards Perth. At the next fuel stop 300 km down the road some riders approached us to ask if we had seen a guy on a green Kawasaki. That was the guy we had seen earlier heading back to Perth. He had apparently decided, without letting his mates know, that he felt the distance was too great. Pick your riding partners well and know they are up for the distance you have planned, and that they are team players. The group that this selfish rider bailed out on stopped on the road for several hours waiting for him, thereby compromising their planned schedule.
My wife and I can do about 350km a day, after that it starts to be not enjoyable. We plan a place to stay but rarely anything else. We have a general idea what we want to do the next day but it's all subject to change. We never ride the highway, we didn't buy a bike to ride on an interstate hwy
For me it's more about the time i try to never do more than 12h riding, this can be up to 1000km, if I'm riding with a pilon usualy don't do more than 700km, this is riding a Ducati Multistrada Enduro. On dirt roads, it depends the state of the road.
For me it's important to hit daily targets if possible but I'm not as young as I once was (!) so I don't do any really long trips now. I tend to keep the Mileage realistic for me - after all it's not about personal torture !.. It's important to plan, but you've also got to be able to be adaptable in case you have unforeseen problems, it's better to build some slack into your plans rather than push yourself to the limit of your endurance every day.. This way, if all goes well you will have a little more time to explore near the end of your trip or even at your final destination before you need to leave.. Personally I know that if I rode for 12 hours (or even 10 hours..) in one day now my backside would probably die !.. and I'd need a week off to recover !!..
On a good day, whatever I want / need to ride. No set amount. I've been as happy doing ten miles or thirteen hundred. I generally have a room waiting somewhere before I leave in the morning or even the day before at the end of the day. It just make life easier if you have a place to land at the end of the day's ride. Depends on your time available and how much you want to see and in what detail. See more, twist the grip farther. Pace yourself. It may be a blur and you may never be able to come back to see what you missed. You may want to slow down and see it as you go. Your choice. You do the riding and seeing. Somedays I just want to ride, very few photos and no vids. Enjoy the ride itself. Remember fatigue contributes heavily to accidents. Many won't admit it if they are alive. Things happen. You may wake up to rain, but your destination maybe 400 or more miles/km away. You can experience many different scenarios concerning weather on the way. They don't call me Ironbutt for nothing. It's got a price. Roll on. RTW Good presentation. Agreed with all your comments. I practice the same.
It really depends on a lot of factors. On my last trip I did 500kms in 8 days and on the ninth day we did around 900kms. The first off road and the last day all on road in Pakistan.
I have done some highway riding for 800km. All good until the rain comes and you just tractor on. In hindsight it‘s better to just stop, spend the night no matter where, and carry on rested and most importantly safe the next day. A day or two more over your life don‘t matter, but an accident can change everything.
My son did 2300 miles in about 3.5 days (40 hours riding time). It was 'possible' because he's young (29), major highways the whole way (Florida to Arizona) and he had the right bike (Tenere 700). BUT it was not 'fun'. He had to get there and it was 11 - 12 hours a day hard (fast) riding.
From experience I have to say that I would deduct 50km from each of your proposals. It's then more relaxing and recreational. But yes, your milage statements are definitely manageable
I think that instead of focusing on distance (km, miles, lightyears, whatever) we should focus more on riding time (hours, days, eons, whatever). The distance you can comfortably travel in a given time unit is very dependent upon the route taken and thus can vary wildly. By looking at the riding time i.s.o. the distance travelled you can take this into account. Purely planning by distance can be seriously deceiving.
Personal experience. For those people who can't figure out when is time to say "enough" I advice to bring your wife or girlfriend on trip. Then make an average calculation between what is enough for her (or him) and what is enough for you. The result is the proper distance to go.
It is very commendable that you try to keep us from making mistakes. But is making mistakes not part of the adventure ?. I am sure that you enjoyed the learning curve (iwhat does not kill you makes you stronger or wiser 😂)
True - We make mistakes because we don't have experience, but the experience comes from the mistakes that we have made in the past! Anyway, the short cuts still exist for everyone who want to use it.
I think it is hard to define borderline fitness? What questions are (how) crucial? Can I sleep comfortably in hotel beds? (Preferably even in my tent). Will I get this bike back on it's wheels, on my own? Am I medically street legal? On top of that you could have yourself medically examined the military style and advised. I heard they used to check "suitable for tropic environment" but have no clue which parameters constitute that. Fitness in sporty terms doesn't matter much. Lets say you are rich enough to take as long as you need and capable to rack up 4h in your saddle every good day: Go ahead! OTOH: Take medical concerns seriously. Do I need to experience 50°C? Are group rides in a desert a bright idea for a contact lens wearer? Good luck!
@@jochenschrey2909 I think you got my my question to Pavlin WRONG. He asked about any other topics that might make good vlogs I replied. Considering that I have been trying to move from couch/ car to motorcycle/RTW is hard in today’s climate. I was ready to go on my RTW but COVID hitI lost all my FITNESS and motivation. But it’s not medical that’s the problem it’s how to exercise the core muscles for people who are on a tight budget an starting off. Doing yourself an injury just because you did not train or are fit enough is just stupid
Make a plan. Then half the miles. After that double the time. The more time you have the better the journey. I wonder why so many RTW bikers ride so many miles per day and so long hours. Travelling is not a 100 meter dash ;-) Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
I plan daily transport not by kilometers but by hours. Google maps are almost realistic, so I add 20-30% to the GM expectations for gas, making photos or lunch. On normal roads it is then approx 350km (+-50) but in areas with high density of people or villages or with interresting places it easily can be 250 and if is needed just trasfer, it can be 500. Motorcycle trip is not race. Next point from my experience: I plan 1 day off motto every 4th-5th day of trip. Just walking and enjoying.
Dear Pavlin, I have a question , After your trip to mongolia with Dima , are you still friends with eachother? I always ride solo because of such an experience. But again thank you for the content, I too believe in a constant average speed. Keep riding!
One more thing that affects the ability to cover as many km, as mathematically possible, is traffic. There are always tractors, lorries, roadworks, aliens landing etc. All that slows traffic down, and you won't be able to ride with the planned speed anyway.
Depend in how many hours on the bike, twisty roads take more time, offroad even more. So for me, not more than 10 hours riding first three days, after that ill won't ride more than 7 hour per day
Anyone tried to go from Germany to Israel with a motorcylce ? And got back. Otherwise i do not get an answer. How long it took you ? And did you had any troubels ? What do i need to watch out for ?
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As always, good advice. I've been doing a lot of riding on a 150 cc scooter. My biggest day was 250 miles. It was mountain roads, mostly twisty and some dirt. Still had time to talk with people, have a picnic lunch, bird watched, and took photos. Still felt good at the end of the day. In the US recreation vehicle travelers use the 3, 3, 3, rule. Three rest/fuel stops, 300 miles, and end the day by 3 o'clock.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Nice, nether hear about 3x3x3 rule
And when, in this case, does a travel day start?
I've done 200 miles on a 110cc. Half was tarmac and the rest was very rugged dirt. Took me 10 hours including a puncture. At first I regretted it but now I can't wait to do it again
Take note of what this man says - he knows!
If you want to ride fast, why bother with a trip, go ride on a track. If you are on a trip, take the time to see what there is to be seen and experience the places. I love to stop and smell the flowers, taste the stream water (within reason of course), listen to the sounds etc. That to me is a trip so I plan to have time for all of this. The kilometers are just part of the trip.
Well said!
Following your footsteps is helping us (new riders) to have the pleasure of the ride with confidence.
Thanks for these precious recommendations, Pavlin.
Appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Happy to help!
These are great guidelines for distance. I just got through a 350km and 700km day to break in a new bike before heading out on a 5000km trip. This gave me a good idea of where my comfort levels were and how often I would need a short break to stretch or grab a photo or a longer break for food and fuel. This will be my first trip over 1000km and your videos have been very motivating.
Glad to help!
So great advices for less experienced riders :) When I started to watch your channel few years ago I did a same mistake as your friend - Balkans in two weeks. It was insane! I also stopped riding longer trips with friends because of that constant tiredness.
This year I did smaller journey into Balkans. Just less points to see a distances to ride. I didn't see all what I planned but it was one of the best Holidays I ever had. I stay relaxed, I enjoyed food, views and even met new friends! What I don't visit - I can see next time. It's a motivation now .
Thanks for the priceless lessons Pavlin :)
Any time!
I find that newbies are more optimistic until the first 1000km day on the highway, then they either abandon the trip or they start being reasonable :) Particularly on long range trips I personally find that less is more, less kms, less speed equals more fun, more people you can meet, more places you can see. Then of course it's a matter of personal preference if you like to ride off road or you like to get to your destination by the shortest and fastest route. My personal preference is no more than 500km highway transfers and no more than 350 400 on secondary roads.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Agree 100% with you and with Pavlin. To be honest, instead of measuring kms, I started measuring hours of fun i.e. how many hours of fun I want to do for the day :). Highways are boring and noisy so I use them only when necessary.
Great video as usually Pavlin.
For me the sweet spot is between 230 and 250km per day. Transitdays around 500km max. I can go for weeks and weeks at this pace without getting totally burned out in a matter of days.
Thanks for sharing!
I live in India, where the average speeds are lower than the West. With time, I've come to see that an estimate of 50 kmph is realistic across the course of most days ( not including off road or village roads ) factoring in food, petrol, toilet and stretching breaks. In our weather , it makes sense to start really early ( 5 am for me), and end early to mid - afternoon so as to be fresh for the next day.
Thanks for sharing!
At the end of september i will start my motorbike trip and the plan is avoid highway, ride slowly and try do not exceed 250 km average x day in order to enjoy the trip and be satisfied every day without be too tired.
Thanks for your advise, most of the time common sense is the key.
Have fun!
You are the Best Pavlin!
Thanks, man!
One of best episodes, you covered every aspect of traveling, excellent video Pavel
Glad you enjoyed it!
This one is easy!! When you have had enough stop. Never push on for the sake of it by then the fun has all gone. Ride your ride. Enjoy your ride. Be safe be kind. 👍👍👍
Good!
Great video, fully agree with your time recommendations. 🥂
Awesome! Thank you!
Just completed a 725 Kilometer (450 Mile) journey from the top of Ireland (Malin Head) to the bottom of Ireland (Mizen Head) in one day (13.5 hours) on a Vespa 300 and it's so true what you say about missing so much in between. I need to do it again but over a few days.
Do it!
alway better to take extra time to take it all in just toured and vloged my way around the N500 took a week some do it in a few day's they must miss so much ..Island's on my to do list
@@AndyGSATractor The Irish version of the NC500 is The Wild Atlantic Way.
I love watching Ed March on C90 Adventures. You see more when going slow.
This video is very accurate. I did a 14 hour bike ride with pillion on my Yamaha FZ 150 this year; We tackled almost every situation like city traffic, highways, village roads, no roads, ghats, water crossings, sand and even rode the bike over a land slide. What I learned from that experience is
1) Load maps beforehand.
2) know the limits of your bike.
3) Sleep well the day before. the ride.
4) Take calculated risks.
5) Always have a backup power source for charging devices.
Thanks for sharing!
July this year I did a trip Kołobrzeg (Polish seaside) to Lisbon. Ca 3500 km there and 3500 km back. It was 5 days there and 5 days back. Mostly highways, but speed max. 120 kmh. It was partially extremely hot, till 44oC. My bike is 2006 Harley Davidson Electra, im 68 years old. It was wonderful ride. Greetings from Poland.
Thanks for sharing!
Pavlin you are so right, and your numbers are not exaggerated at all!!! After 34 years of riding, and one year of subscribing to your channel, I finally learned how to ride🍺😎👌🏆👍❤
Cool!
The Irish Reg plate on the wall ☘☘
Yes!
Excellent advice. I do even less than you recommend. 4 hours in saddle is full day, I almost never exceed 5 days. It’s worked all over the world. 75 countries so far and almost never tired.
Long hard days were when I was sailing around world on my yacht or cycling. Motorcycling is easy compared to that. But never rush life. I have the time 😅
Thanks for sharing!
Pavlin, I took a trip in July and I made so many of these mistakes. My first day was 850 KM and by the end of the day I was completely tired. By the end of the second day my right hand couldn't engage my throttle lock. Day three both arms were numb most of the day and my legs were killing me. Day four was a race to get back home and recoup. I am glad for the experience but the trip was very disheartening because I experienced so little and was in a fair amount of pain most of the trip. Thank you for all you do to teach and help us to keep from making these mistakes.
This is what we call to learn the hard way.
As I get older I find that time on the bike is a bigger factor than distance, 6-8 hours is close to my maximum, so whatever distance I do in that time is what I do.
It is not for everyone as most people have a time limit on a trip be it time off work or visa limitations, which is a bit of a pain so I guess you have to plan around that.
A lot depends how I am feeling during the day, if I feel okay on the bike I keep riding but sometimes it is hard to get in the groove so I will stop more which uses up time therefore limiting the distance.
I budget on shorter distances now to allow for more time to take in my surroundings and enjoy the trip.
Use whatever system work for you!
100% agree mate 6 to 8 is perfect for us when we are on tour
After 5-6 hours everything starts hurting: head due to my long oval head, knees due to uncomfortable position, ass due to stiff seat (even with an inflatable pillow). Maybe I could ride longer if I made brakes more often (every hour). Distance is not so important, since it depends on the road type. Thanks for a great video! You never disappoint! ☺️
Thanks for taking the time!
Thank you for all your tips once again 😄😃😀
My pleasure 😊
My limit to have fun is around 250 km per day or less (no highway and preferably Mountain roads with many stops to visit places)
Thanks for sharing!
videos with views of your riding are much more interesting to watch
Okay, then watch them, I have more than 700.
Another great common sense video. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Pavlin
It’s evening, so, 🍻for me.
Cheers Barry.Uk🏍
Enjoy!
8:45
he finally reached the shore 😂
Well...
Good points as usual. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
what you're said is so true. I've done a few group rides and spent most of the time on the highway which is what I didn't want to do 🙄
won't be making that mistake again 👍
Exactly!
So spot on, Pavlin, congratulations. There are so many factors, but the main one is being overambitious. I tend to think more in hours than kilometers spent.
As a Husky 701 Enduro rider, I realize that the type of road highly influences my riding experience. 8 hours of highway and I'll be dead tired. 8 hours on primary roads are similar if they are too straight. But 8 hours of twisty mountain roads in Switzerland or northern Italy and I feel rejuvenated.
As for dirt, I plan a max of 6 hours per day and keep 2 hours as reserve for unforeseeable difficulties. And if it's getting tight, 4 hours are already a lot.
Nad ever forget: plan riding hours AND sightseeing/eating/justenjoying the scenery times too.
Bottomline: 6 hours of pure riding perdayseems perfect in order to notonly transverse a landscape but fee, enjoy and see it.
Just my 2 cents as newbie 😃
Thanks for adding!
Absolutely right. I did 5 days oner ,2200km for round trip at my own country. Where I feel lucky nowadays we get gather information so easily and most importantly can booked accommodation anywhere anytime. But fitness and enough rest is the key to complete this endurance long trip. Sometimes I need some rain because overhere Malaysia the weather is hot humid. According to me anyway. Cheers
Thanks for sharing!
As an experienced rider, I fully agree with all he is saying!😊
Thank you!
Good advice!!! thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent information and very accurate, i agree with you 100%!!!!
Thanks, man!
250 miles a day in the UK is my preference. Allows for stops and a decent lunch break. No rush, no dangerous riding etc. Arriving relaxed and ready to have a good evening of chat and fun.
Good!
I totally agree that it depends on many factors, from the type of the roads and what you want to see to the weather and how you feel on that particular day. I started riding 2 years ago and despite being a very experienced traveler with good planning skills I am still learning how to plan as a rider :) So far I found my upper limit to be around 300km per da, a bit more if it is a straight highway. Maybe not much but it allows to enjoy the ride and not to be in a hurry.
Good! Keep riding!
Like allways
A very good video Palvin
Thanks!
Thanks for the another great advice. I am planing a trip around the Adriatic Sea next year. I plan to do no more than 300km avg per day for 15days and avoid highways as much as I can. My primary goal is to take it easy and enjoy the places I visit. I did some "rushed" trips before and there were not much fun. We shall see how it plays in reality next year.
Have fun!
Once talked a guy who traveled from Serbia to Mongolia. For the question what should be do otherwise if he would start the journey today he just answered that he would plan it twice as long as it was been.
More or less I will do the same.
My sweet spot for highway is 600 kms. More than 600 only if I come back home and can rest after that. On secondary roads it really depends from the road condition, when you wakeup and start.
Thanks for sharing!
Primary, secondary, and tertiary routes. Learned it growing up as a kid on the reservation. Marine Corps reinforced it. It has served me well throughout my life. I've known too many guys that planned 1000k per day that learned the hard way that what you have said is reasonable and realistic. (I live in the U.S.) Making a goal and enjoying a goal are two entirely different things.
Thanks for sharing!
Great advice Pavlin, your numbers are spot on. I too have regrets from trips that COULD have been amazing but I was in such a rush I missed all the golden opportunities to stop and really SEE the places I was passing through. 12,000km in 14 days (I even got home 2 days early LOL) - idiot.
Nowadays I ride a MUCH smaller bike, and go slower on secondary roads. Much more pleasant.
Also, a lot of new travellers forget that you really need to take a day off every few days. Travelling every single day will burn you out quickly.
I agree!
Also if you are camping each night
400-500 kms/day might be the maximum because of all the time each day to set up camp @ night & pack up each morning.
True!
when I was working with a 44t truck I was looking at 450 miles per day but on my tours an a bike I am looking at 200 miles.
Much better!
Thank for this informative presentation. Ride safe brother
Thanks, you too!
I average around 300km daily and just occasionally double that on certain circumstances, my last trip around Thailand took me 24 days at 7200km on a 110 cc bike. Even on bigger bike (GSA1200LC or Triumph 1200) I put around same limit otherwise I will not see much. I try my best to avoid highways, Thailand has beautiful scenic route.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm leaving for Croatia from the Czech Republic by (naked) motorcycle in a few days. Waiting for the right moment without any(or at least without heavy) rain. I could do the distance in one go in a car, but I think I'll break the journey midway somewhere in Slovenia/beginning of Croatia where I'd like to avoid taking the highway anyway. Great points as always, Pavlin!👍
Do whatever is good for you. Don't press yourself.
@@motorcycleadventures I won't. At 66 one has to take it easy😃
next week I'm going on an enduro motorcycle for a month, I plan to do between 5000 or 6000 kilometers in 25 days and 5 days off ,about 250 kilometers a day more or less hehe I have everything planned, 75 off-road 25 on the road, I always plan off-road, I like it better, greetings
Have fun!
Really good advice. I ride in Indonesia where conditions are as you might expect- different. Lots of wandering animals, lots of kids walking home ftom school, lots of school kids (12 - 18) riding scooters crazily, poor/misleading signage unmarked dangerous obstacles, overloaded trucks, lots of flouting of road laws etc. I rarely exceed 75kph and probably average about 50 kph on a day's ride on bitumen roads. I've come off twice in 11 years riding. No one else involved - just me and a chopped up road or me and sand in a corner.
From my experience the one thing I will never do again is ride at night because the weather, or some unforeseen event, has prevented me from reaching my planned stop for the night. Over the years, I've done this 3 times. I've never enjoyed it and have promised myself, I will never do it again. I'll carry a tent or sleep under a tree!
Thanks for sharing!
Weather/gear is such a big factor. Just couple days ago tested my "new" XT600 project after repairing it for few days and rode about 120km's on very small gravel roads. Quite puny distance, but it was +10C and I had bit too little to wear. Few hours and my hands and forehead was feeling quite uncomfortable. Without a doubt would've gotten ill if I'd continue to ride for double the time or distance. I'd definitely say that weather is always a factor to consider. Especially for someone like me who has had slipped discs in back which could (and usually will) begin to disturb in certain conditions.
Thanks for sharing!
I like more whan you said "grab a beer" :)
Then grab a beer!
I've done once 1900km in one go. But only one reason for that was bad weather in the eastern part of the EU. I was heading to Spain from Lithuania and I rushed to escape the bad weather. The bike was Honda VFR800 2005. It felt terrible later. I had such a headache and buzzing in my ears that I don't recommend anyone ( I wore ear plugs) .
Thanks for sharing!
I agree with your mileage limits. I don't like to drive more than 400 miles (643 km) per day, and my preference is closer to 250 miles (400 km). I try to avoid interstate highways with very high-speed limits. I know you can drive more miles that way, but I don't enjoy the speed and wind noise. For me, the best speeds are closer to 60-65mph (95-105 kmh). So we are very similar!
Thanks for sharing!
My personal experience: I have done 1000km days a few times now, I do not want to do them again, this year I had two 650km days on my trip and it was pure highway and I didn't like those days :) Only had to do them because of tickets for the ships I needed to use to get across the sea. Now that I have a few bigger trips under my belt, 300km days are where I still feel that I have energy to do stuff other than riding, that means sight seeing, having decently long breaks for food and actually enjoy riding the next day as well.
I do know a guy who likes to ride a lot, he even does Ironbutt rides a few times a year, and he is much older than I'm. If you enjoy that kind of thing, then sure. I can do it, but I prefer not to. Might do one at some point just to try it, but I'm not sure I will enjoy it :)
Do whatever makes you happy.
Agreed for 300-400 on twisties! Just did the road of the Grand Apls (Nice to Thonon) but starting from Marseille. 1000kms in three and a half days. It was really enjoyable. I had not much planned, just made sure I would end up somewhere I could camp and shower. It worked out perfect! It would need a lot more planning in other more remote countries.
Even if you want to test your limits...you have to admit these limits! An adventure is supposed to be a good memory, a good experience! Not a burdain...
Thanks for sharing!
@@motorcycleadventures thanks for your inspiring videos! Been watching for a while, found you when looking information on the 660 Tenere!
Any time!
Very useful tips
Thanks, man!
Man, great video's!
I appreciate that!
Depends on the bike, the circumstances, the conditions and the plan. 200 miles on a drz is not the same as 200 miles on a gold wing, and 200 miles offroad is a long day while 200 on a American interstate is what you cover before your lunch break.
I agree!
In 2020 I rode 1350 km Warsaw - Dresden - Nurenberg - Munich - Zell-am-See. The most important lesson was that you are at the mercy of the weather elements. It was quite brutal not for just the miles but for two reasons: it was extreme heat mid-day in Germany and it rained late at night in the dark Alpine roads of Tyrol. You can't plan for this, weather affects the experience so heavily on a motorcycle, I would say enjoyable distance with good weather vs bad weather is different by at last 2 times. Intersting Pavlin that you cite your maximum exactly the same 1350 as mine :). Should I ever upgrade from my Versys 650 to a 1000, I may do an absolute Autobahn run just for s*its and giggles to top 2000 km.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I measure it in time, not distance. I get tired and the riding is not fun after 6 hours of it. So I ride 3 hours, make a long stop of maybe 40-45 minutes and ride 3 more hours. After that I know I'm close to the end of my patience and I have to stop for the day. If I'm using a highway, this tempo covers usually 600-700 km per day, depending on the traffic and weather. On normal, two-lane roads - usually 400 km. I know that is my limit, I leave about 10% in "reserve" and plan the length of my trips accordingly.
Whatever works for you!
Exactly. Plan for flexibility. 2 days of hard riding really means that you need day off or at least low mileage for one day. Hours a day is more realistic. What is realistic is the actual average across your whole trip. And this doesn't even take into account the weather.
I agree!
When starting a new trip i make miles like crazy the first days. After the thrill of the first days the mileage goes down slowly but surely. Later i don`t care at all how many i do....40 or 400. When i find a great place for the night I stop. After a couple of months when it is time to go back home the mileage goes up again.
Thanks for sharing!
With a passenger I have to let her set the mileage really, and to some degree the route. If she is happy I am relaxed.
But even with a passenger your rules apply.
Start early, constant speed to keep the average up. With this tactic the bike can be not big.
Short or long trips. It's the same.
'Don't count the days, make the days count.'
Good topic, happy travels 👍
Thanks for sharing, Richard!
That's a cunning plan ! - On most bikes the pillion/passenger seat looks much less comfortable than the rider's seat, so you just wait until they've had enough and then stop.. and you'll still be fine !.. Genius !!..
As a novice to travelling with my T7 I agree 😅. Did 730KM in a single day with the Ralley seat going from Munich to La Spezia … the last 200 were pure pain … next time no more than 400 max 500.
So you learned the hard way.
400 is even on the edge I would say, just spent day riding around eifel with few little stops I drove about 400km for 10 hours. It was ok since it was just one day trip and I had a lot of fun on twisty roads but if I would need to continue my journey next day I'd say no more than 300.
Fair enough!
Depends on so many variables its a silly question to ask in the first place..............
It is what it is!
You arr very direktli and dath is woth i like from you
Sretno
Thanks, man!
Maybe thats the question of similar age but I totally agree with you. Adv is about pleasure not race. It’s about real life not Facebook photos.
Good!
Hi Mr P, Is it possible to show the speed you are riding on the screen ? Sometimes, watching the scene you are going by, I wonder what the actual speed was; looked very fast but I thought not so because of the difficult terrain. Thanks for your videos.
Depends on the terrain but never more than 120km/h
I want to meet these people who travel with "no plans". Do they just have an app telling them when to go, stop and whether to turn left or right at the next junction?
As for distance traveled, I think a full tank of fuel every day is a good metric. This is typically 300-400km, I also think less than 8h on the bike is preferable as otherwise it's like doing a shift at work. Take your time, stop to see things that are interesting, get off the bike and walk around, chat to some locals! Higher mileage and higher speeds means you spend your days staring at the road, which isn't the point of travel and certainly isn't adventure.
Well said!
No usually take an old road map and go - its very hard to get really lost these days - not stupid or a millionaire.........very insulting Pavlin just because a person travels differently from you - you are not always right and sometimes talk complete B/S - don't have a smartphone, never bloody will - have a basic idea of where to go and the time to do it ie. the Black Sea and back........... that's about it ......... sometimes I get there, sometimes I don't who cares........... planning a trip doesn't mean a trip will be better and to say you see nothing is just bullshit - you will always see something - who really gives a flying f+ck how many monuments POI towns tourist attractions countries you've seen etc.
my full tank mileage is 280km...realistically 240.
Some plan better than others. Back in the late 1970's I was one of many, in various groups, who planned to ride from Perth (Western Australia) to the motor cycle races at Bathurst (New South Wales). I was teamed up with an Army mate, just the two of us. That trip is about 3400 km each way. We saw many others at various fuel stops also heading the same way. About 260 km from the start we saw a Kawasaki heading back towards Perth. At the next fuel stop 300 km down the road some riders approached us to ask if we had seen a guy on a green Kawasaki. That was the guy we had seen earlier heading back to Perth. He had apparently decided, without letting his mates know, that he felt the distance was too great. Pick your riding partners well and know they are up for the distance you have planned, and that they are team players. The group that this selfish rider bailed out on stopped on the road for several hours waiting for him, thereby compromising their planned schedule.
Thanks for sharing this story!
My wife and I can do about 350km a day, after that it starts to be not enjoyable. We plan a place to stay but rarely anything else. We have a general idea what we want to do the next day but it's all subject to change. We never ride the highway, we didn't buy a bike to ride on an interstate hwy
Thanks for sharing!
For me it's more about the time i try to never do more than 12h riding, this can be up to 1000km, if I'm riding with a pilon usualy don't do more than 700km, this is riding a Ducati Multistrada Enduro. On dirt roads, it depends the state of the road.
Thanks for sharing!
For me it's important to hit daily targets if possible but I'm not as young as I once was (!) so I don't do any really long trips now. I tend to keep the Mileage realistic for me - after all it's not about personal torture !.. It's important to plan, but you've also got to be able to be adaptable in case you have unforeseen problems, it's better to build some slack into your plans rather than push yourself to the limit of your endurance every day.. This way, if all goes well you will have a little more time to explore near the end of your trip or even at your final destination before you need to leave.. Personally I know that if I rode for 12 hours (or even 10 hours..) in one day now my backside would probably die !.. and I'd need a week off to recover !!..
Whatever is good for you, man!
Hi Pavlin, Have you any plan to make a live program that we can ask you questions online and you choise some of them and ansver it.
I might do it in the future.
On a good day, whatever I want / need to ride. No set amount. I've been as happy doing ten miles or thirteen hundred. I generally have a room waiting somewhere before I leave in the morning or even the day before at the end of the day. It just make life easier if you have a place to land at the end of the day's ride. Depends on your time available and how much you want to see and in what detail. See more, twist the grip farther. Pace yourself. It may be a blur and you may never be able to come back to see what you missed. You may want to slow down and see it as you go. Your choice. You do the riding and seeing. Somedays I just want to ride, very few photos and no vids. Enjoy the ride itself. Remember fatigue contributes heavily to accidents. Many won't admit it if they are alive. Things happen. You may wake up to rain, but your destination maybe 400 or more miles/km away. You can experience many different scenarios concerning weather on the way. They don't call me Ironbutt for nothing. It's got a price. Roll on. RTW Good presentation. Agreed with all your comments. I practice the same.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Road type, weather/temperature, your health/age, motorcycle type all have great effect on the rider’s stamina.
Very true!
It really depends on a lot of factors. On my last trip I did 500kms in 8 days and on the ninth day we did around 900kms. The first off road and the last day all on road in Pakistan.
Thanks for sharing!
I have done some highway riding for 800km. All good until the rain comes and you just tractor on. In hindsight it‘s better to just stop, spend the night no matter where, and carry on rested and most importantly safe the next day. A day or two more over your life don‘t matter, but an accident can change everything.
Agree!
My son did 2300 miles in about 3.5 days (40 hours riding time). It was 'possible' because he's young (29), major highways the whole way (Florida to Arizona) and he had the right bike (Tenere 700). BUT it was not 'fun'. He had to get there and it was 11 - 12 hours a day hard (fast) riding.
If he had to do it...
From experience I have to say that I would deduct 50km from each of your proposals. It's then more relaxing and recreational. But yes, your milage statements are definitely manageable
Thanks for sharing!
I think that instead of focusing on distance (km, miles, lightyears, whatever) we should focus more on riding time (hours, days, eons, whatever). The distance you can comfortably travel in a given time unit is very dependent upon the route taken and thus can vary wildly. By looking at the riding time i.s.o. the distance travelled you can take this into account. Purely planning by distance can be seriously deceiving.
Agree
Personal experience. For those people who can't figure out when is time to say "enough" I advice to bring your wife or girlfriend on trip. Then make an average calculation between what is enough for her (or him) and what is enough for you. The result is the proper distance to go.
True
Hi,
Have you got any plans of visiting Norway?
Not this year.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
It is very commendable that you try to keep us from making mistakes. But is making mistakes not part of the adventure ?. I am sure that you enjoyed the learning curve (iwhat does not kill you makes you stronger or wiser 😂)
True - We make mistakes because we don't have experience, but the experience comes from the mistakes that we have made in the past! Anyway, the short cuts still exist for everyone who want to use it.
Hi Pavlin, What about fitness and how fit should you be to start a RTW tour? Would this be a good topic for another vlog?
This will give you the answer, Pete: th-cam.com/video/JSd6KA8-nQA/w-d-xo.html
I think it is hard to define borderline fitness? What questions are (how) crucial?
Can I sleep comfortably in hotel beds? (Preferably even in my tent).
Will I get this bike back on it's wheels, on my own?
Am I medically street legal?
On top of that you could have yourself medically examined the military style and advised. I heard they used to check "suitable for tropic environment" but have no clue which parameters constitute that.
Fitness in sporty terms doesn't matter much. Lets say you are rich enough to take as long as you need and capable to rack up 4h in your saddle every good day: Go ahead!
OTOH: Take medical concerns seriously. Do I need to experience 50°C? Are group rides in a desert a bright idea for a contact lens wearer?
Good luck!
@@jochenschrey2909 I think you got my my question to Pavlin WRONG. He asked about any other topics that might make good vlogs I replied. Considering that I have been trying to move from couch/ car to motorcycle/RTW is hard in today’s climate. I was ready to go on my RTW but COVID hitI lost all my FITNESS and motivation. But it’s not medical that’s the problem it’s how to exercise the core muscles for people who are on a tight budget an starting off. Doing yourself an injury just because you did not train or are fit enough is just stupid
Make a plan. Then half the miles. After that double the time. The more time you have the better the journey.
I wonder why so many RTW bikers ride so many miles per day and so long hours. Travelling is not a 100 meter dash ;-)
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
I agree, but...
@@motorcycleadventures But...?
I plan daily transport not by kilometers but by hours. Google maps are almost realistic, so I add 20-30% to the GM expectations for gas, making photos or lunch. On normal roads it is then approx 350km (+-50) but in areas with high density of people or villages or with interresting places it easily can be 250 and if is needed just trasfer, it can be 500. Motorcycle trip is not race. Next point from my experience: I plan 1 day off motto every 4th-5th day of trip. Just walking and enjoying.
Thanks for sharing!
Dear Pavlin, I have a question ,
After your trip to mongolia with Dima , are you still friends with eachother?
I always ride solo because of such an experience.
But again thank you for the content, I too believe in a constant average speed.
Keep riding!
Yes, we are still very good friends, just don't ride together. Solo riding is what I prefer now.
I think 8:00 hours is enough for a day, more than that depends of your skills and age.
Fair enough!
I need all of you say, and i have one day off every twelve day… in the day off i feel better with a relax massage for my shoulder…
Good!
One more thing that affects the ability to cover as many km, as mathematically possible, is traffic. There are always tractors, lorries, roadworks, aliens landing etc. All that slows traffic down, and you won't be able to ride with the planned speed anyway.
True
Depend in how many hours on the bike, twisty roads take more time, offroad even more. So for me, not more than 10 hours riding first three days, after that ill won't ride more than 7 hour per day
Whatever works for you!
What about riding 1000k daily on Highways in a 750cc SS ?
Could be done but it will be hard after a few days.
Anyone tried to go from Germany to Israel with a motorcylce ? And got back. Otherwise i do not get an answer.
How long it took you ? And did you had any troubels ? What do i need to watch out for ?
I cannot say, never done it!
I have a nice whisky Pavlin
Enjoy it!
This is the way
Yes!
as I get old and take groups away I try to stick to 150 miles to 180miles a day
Good!