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  • A complete Go game review, two reasonably experienced players from the Online Go Server (OGS). You've learned many Go techniques and principles. Now it's time to apply of that in one flow. Dive deep into strategic invasions, tactical fights, and learn the art of aggressive gameplay. Discover the rationale behind each move and enhance your Go undestanding.
    The Fundamentals of Go on 13×13: • The Fundamentals of Go...
    #GoGame #Baduk #Weiqi #Igo #GoMagic #GoLessons #Learning #BoardGame #MindGame #TraditionalGame #AncientGame #StrategyGame #ChineseGame #JapaneseGame #GoBasics #GoBeginner #Opening #Fuseki #Chuban #MiddleGame #EndGame #Yose #gamereview
    Go Magic - A modern platform for learning Go
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    0:00:00 Introduction
    0:00:17 Opening Moves and Early Strategy
    0:02:02 Tactical Stone Sacrifices and Territory Gains
    0:04:43 Mistake in Stone Connection
    0:05:48 Mid-Game: Strategic Depth and Critical Decisions
    0:07:28 Transition to Endgame and Territory Assessment
    0:11:24 Classic End Game Sequences
    0:13:59 Late Endgame Moves and Finding Gaps
    0:16:20 Scoring the Game of Go
    0:19:00 Conclusion

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  • @frankng1212
    @frankng1212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    As a complete beginner, your channel is by far the best source of information on the game. It's very helpful when you go through the process of scoring a game. Please keep making content as I have no doubt you're helping to bring in or retain new players! Thank you!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      We are thinking about making a series of reviews like this one =)
      Stay tuned!

  • @TomerGazit
    @TomerGazit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    The production quality, as well as your explanations, are superb!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks a million!

  • @burningflurber
    @burningflurber 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Your teaching style is really impressive. I almost feel like I'm taking part in a story as I follow along with the train of logic.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you so much!

  • @anasbencheikhahmed478
    @anasbencheikhahmed478 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I hope you do a remake of the 19x19 course and post it on TH-cam. Great work guys.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is one of our plans as well =)

  • @vgeorge97
    @vgeorge97 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Everytime i hit a plateau, lo and behold! One more go magic video to help me with the next conceptual breakthrough

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We aim to break your plateaus =)

  • @lyingcat9022
    @lyingcat9022 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It’s 7am. Time to get up and study some Go :) Thanks Go Magic!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice routine there!

  • @makemoneyandthrive
    @makemoneyandthrive 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great video, loved the commentary!! One of the big problems when learning to play go is the extent focus on learning how to capture in my opinion instead of focusing on surrounding territory which leads to players trying to try to save instead of sacrifice. You’re doing a great job on shifting that focus!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We didn't realize that...but thanks!

  • @arkady7685
    @arkady7685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One of the best commented games I've seen on YT to improve your Go skills! Great channel!
    I particularly learnt from your advice about not being afraid to sacrifice a stone if it allows you to increase connectedness (4:40). I keep making the mistake of trying to save each stone and this helped me realise how wrong a way of thinking it is

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You know as they say - strong players sacrifice a LOT! =)

  • @ManuelMagnifico
    @ManuelMagnifico 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I really like this vids

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cheers =)

  • @_unkown8652
    @_unkown8652 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this kind of Game review format. You should keep doing it! So instructive

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are planning an entire course with something like that one day =)

  • @georgegilbert4004
    @georgegilbert4004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    thank you for the video. your channel is the easiest to pick up information from and i really need it.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We try! =)

  • @t3hm013
    @t3hm013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Definitely relies on the previous videos. But this is definitely my favourite go video so far.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And once it's all done all of these will become a course on Go Magic =)

  • @tomasvanes
    @tomasvanes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And another great video indeed! Thanks man!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😆

  • @deanrumsby
    @deanrumsby 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the amazing videos! I thought Go wasn't for me but it keeps creeping back into my brain... It's very alluring! Your videos are incredibly enjoyable to watch 🙌

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you so much for your kind words! Go is truly a game for everyone!

  • @Ou5dp74d55j
    @Ou5dp74d55j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    More like this please, real games with commentary/analysis. It'd be much easier to learn the theory whilst being applied. Anyway, thanks for this.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, we're thinking of making something in the same vein, so stay tuned =)

  • @notwearingseatbelt
    @notwearingseatbelt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favorites videos. Thanks

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @tz_robbjgames2425
    @tz_robbjgames2425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the commentary videos. Thanks

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep watching them, we'll keep making them =)

  • @AmaranthRBY
    @AmaranthRBY 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a fan of many board games, I never really had a chance to properly get into Go since it's pretty obscure in the West. I appreciate what you are doing to make the game more accessible!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😇

  • @eliaspetrov
    @eliaspetrov 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go is magic! Thank you!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha yeah! 😇

  • @camerondavies9659
    @camerondavies9659 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been waiting for this 13x13 stuff

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😆

  • @matthewsuggit8737
    @matthewsuggit8737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed this one and learnt a lot.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @rbpompeu1
    @rbpompeu1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the explanation! Really instructive! One of the best I've ever watched!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😇

  •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really love how chill and safe this channel is, and how carefully the bowls, stones and goban are aligned. Thank you Go Magic !

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your kind words 🤗

  • @dorchy12
    @dorchy12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! ❤

  • @M-rook
    @M-rook 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much. I enjoyed very much watching and learning.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for being supportive. ☺

  • @user-nm8ji4fk2v
    @user-nm8ji4fk2v 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great great video thank you 👍!!!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Game reviews are a bit longer but they also cover lots of useful things! =)

  • @logan32086
    @logan32086 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a beginner, I loved this. I'd like to see you do a few more 13X13 games. Love your channel!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! :)

  • @learningisfun273
    @learningisfun273 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is such high quality content. The host, production quality, content are all top notch. I hope your revenue streams are enough so that you can continue to create videos.
    The AlphaGo documentary got me (and now my 5 yr old son) into Go and it's been a lovely journey so far.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much! Enjoy your games! 💙

  • @maarten9222
    @maarten9222 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun game, thanks for sharing.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      =)

  • @alexf0101
    @alexf0101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great stuff

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😇

  • @ens3494
    @ens3494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Vadim. Thanks for all your great videos on GO. Im 43, Ive been a lifetime chess player, just recently started playing GO. Im afraid, after all these years and practicing thousands of hours chess I will turn into a novice GO player😅

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fantastic! We always love to see more Go players :)

  • @blipblop7207
    @blipblop7207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The comeback 🗿🗿🗿

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed! 😆

  • @darknightplayz2688
    @darknightplayz2688 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best go teacher 😆

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you 🥰

  • @SengokuKg
    @SengokuKg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥

  • @LaurieStrodeReal
    @LaurieStrodeReal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video! I love using your guides to improve my play. Think you could make some videos like this with 19x19 boards?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey! Thank you for your kind words. :)
      We'll look into releasing 19x19 game review. Right now we have one in our course “Deeper into the Game of Go on 19×19” gomagic.org/courses/deeper-into-the-game-of-go-on-19x19/

  • @romanmykhaylov5138
    @romanmykhaylov5138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content, kudos to all of your team

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @victoriouspancake
    @victoriouspancake 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is really high quality content. As someone that was completely naive when it came to Go a few weeks ago, this series on Go basics is exactly what I needed to stick to the game through the numerous losses to beginner bots in 9x9.... Thank you !

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome =)
      Soon this whole series will become a course on gomagic.org with interactive questions and quizzes!

  • @oscarlama
    @oscarlama 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel got me into go. Great explanations and techniques for beginners! Could you explain a way to aproximate the territory one has at the erly and middle game before any borders are drawn? Like the ones at the begining

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a course on counting territory on gomagic.org
      but it's quite advanced
      maybe we'll make something more simple on that =)

  • @deathsunshade
    @deathsunshade 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the content! I enjoy these types of videos. I would like to see 19x19 games explained in a similar way. This type of format is helping me learn the game and your videos helped me get my first win at my local go club against a way stronger opponent.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good point. We'll think about it. Thanks =)

  • @swagteck8925
    @swagteck8925 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a twist

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was from backstage footage, and that was Vadim's genuine reaction. =)

    • @jonathany1240
      @jonathany1240 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh no here comes komi with the steel chair!!!!

  • @playboydreamboy9874
    @playboydreamboy9874 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! Do you have more content regardless of paid or free with commented games. I find it invaluable for a beginner to understand the flow of the game. One of the things that helped me understand chess on another level and I would love to repeat this adventure with go. Also the method of explanation is perfect. You are a great teacher!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your kind words!
      We're planning to make more game review videos.

  • @Spoodabandit
    @Spoodabandit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When u asked in the beginning who looks like they have more territory I was like well it appears black does but whites gona win😅😂

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😁

  • @dukedenning
    @dukedenning 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Black : I'm taking a corner
    White : So I am
    Black : I'll take another corner
    White : Aight ,same here
    Black : I'm invading your sweet lil' house
    White : lol you aggressive mofo

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the game of Go!

  • @yamanee7499
    @yamanee7499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:34 interestingly enough when I actually tried to evaluate the score I got around 42 for black while white has around 34 + 6.5 = 40.5 so it is not that obvious who's leading, even though at first glance black seems to win hard. Never understimate komi !

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, estimating the score with precision is not the simplest task!

  • @thequantummechanicinfinito6318
    @thequantummechanicinfinito6318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it seems as though capturing the dead black stone on the 4th line could have been useful on at least two occasions. Is there a reason white left it? ty

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These players are not 8 dan! =) They make quite a few mistakes, but in the video Vadim wasn't trying to show every mistake and misread... he was just commenting on what was happening to give the viewers better understanding of the game flow.

    • @thequantummechanicinfinito6318
      @thequantummechanicinfinito6318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i'm probably an upper teens k, so im just trying to keep up!! these are helpful and easy to watch, thank you@@GoMagic

  • @swoondrones
    @swoondrones 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be good if you finish how the Atari Finnishes, because it seems you are one stone before, but it would be good t oo see it finish so people understand.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably. But then the video would have gotten even longer. 😅

  • @delboy1727
    @delboy1727 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That looked fascinating, but I didn't understand a single thing of what was going on.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a tutorial th-cam.com/video/oZTdT8MQexk/w-d-xo.html

  • @zijun9663
    @zijun9663 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why white has 6.5 point of compensation?😢(im a noob of Go)

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Since Black plays first, they have a slight initial advantage: they can occupy the corners first, they can attack first, etc. In order to make up for this, it was decided that White gets 6.5 points of compensation. The fractional value allows to avoid a tied game. Such compensation is called komi.
      You can learn the rest of the rules from this article: gomagic.org/how-to-play-go-rules/

    • @zijun9663
      @zijun9663 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoMagic thank you but does it work on 9 by 9 board? If it does that's too op for white

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It does, and since the board is smaller, Black's first move affects the game even more.

  • @davidmeijer1645
    @davidmeijer1645 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does white get 6.5 points Komi? That seems like a lot!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then again, the first move is also worth a lot. It was the result of a lot of trial and error. Komi started from 2 or 3 points back in the 20th century and gradually went up to 6.5

    • @mattt180
      @mattt180 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoMagic I'd imagine fair compensation would depend on the skill of the players too, right? To relate it to something I'm more familiar with, first move in chess has an advantage, but only at the highest levels. For beginners, it matters much less.

  • @MrJesuispierre
    @MrJesuispierre 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I must have missed something, isn't this a 12 x 12 board?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need to count the lines, not the squares =)

  • @pokerchannel6991
    @pokerchannel6991 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there is deceptively a lot to a small board game of 9x9 or 13x13. I mean, with the complexities of 13x13, I really don't even feel that a 19x19 is even a needed thing. You could play a lifeitme of 13 x 13 at the highest level and never run out of awe and wonder. Humans don't really need 19x19. AI might, but humans could have stopped at 13 x 13. heck even 9x9 has 10^170 positions. And that in and of itself is more atoms than there is in the entire universe. So, even 9x9 is a lot and will never be sovled.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True, but I don't think we needed 19x19 for its complexity. I think that a lot of that has to do with just the scope and the added strategic dimension. Suddenly you get the feeling of managing multiple tasks and battles at the same time. 13x13 doesn't offer you much of that.

  • @josiaswando9561
    @josiaswando9561 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didnt undestand when the players know They didnt had more valid moves and the games over.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Go players determine that the game is over when both players agree that there are no more beneficial moves to make. In the end the game reaches a point where both players believe that placing any more stones would not be advantageous. This typically occurs when all territories are fully surrounded, and further moves would either be pointless or detrimental.

  • @jesusistheopendoor
    @jesusistheopendoor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ????

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was so confusing?