Territory and Influence: Kinetic and Potential Energies in Go Game

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  • @cbleslie
    @cbleslie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Informative. Now to play a game and completely forget all that I have absorbed. As is tradition.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This video is not meant to teach you new tricks. But more advanced lessons are probably better to be rewatched for max efficiency =)

    • @austinkatz1551
      @austinkatz1551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HA! This is so accurate 😂

  • @yankj7647
    @yankj7647 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really like Takemiya Masaki's "Universe Style". I've used this to beat many players several levels above me.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah!

  • @JozefLewitzky
    @JozefLewitzky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Please keep making Go videos! There are so few great creators of Go content in English, and your style is fantastic! Looking forward to the next one.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you kindly! More videos and courses are coming.

  • @Tallness1000
    @Tallness1000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are a very good presenter! Thanks for the lesson!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! Your support means a lot to us. 💖

  • @ZSh0ck
    @ZSh0ck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love the production value of your videos. I haven't played Go in years and forgot everything about the game. Listening to you made me remember how good it felt to watch a good match.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! That feeling of excitement when playing a good game or even talking about it with friends is also very precious to us.

  • @bosmacbos2037
    @bosmacbos2037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite of this channel

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @EcMcMuffin
    @EcMcMuffin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow your channel is just awesome. Superb quality!!!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! 😊 We really appreciate your kind words.

  • @zsoltorban
    @zsoltorban 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for presenting these two styles. Easy to follow and professionaly made video. Keep up the good work!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are happy you like it!

  • @Sevastoni
    @Sevastoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another amazing video. Thank you very much.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yaaay!

  • @dem8568
    @dem8568 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool stuff. Thanks for such well made videos.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😆

  • @elijahide9880
    @elijahide9880 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phenomenal content, and extremely helpful too 👍 thank you

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching and enjoying our videos! 👍

  • @josesantibanez2716
    @josesantibanez2716 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first video that I looked, and I will watch a lot more of this channel. I really liked hoy you explain it. Kudos and keep up the good work 💪🏻

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and welcome!

  • @SpiritAnimalGO
    @SpiritAnimalGO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @Mitsu-q4h
    @Mitsu-q4h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    funny thing is, according to KataGo black's extension move on the bottom side (O4) is 2 points better than the attack on the white stone (C13). Although, O4 extension also server as a very high pressure move on the lone white stone in the right corner

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haha, that's one of those things where we as educators allow ourselves to disagree with AI sometimes, if it makes for a more logical and humanly conceivable line of play.

  • @dangianfagna
    @dangianfagna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exciting. Stimulating. Some people inside the box value the idea of thinking outside the box, whereas some of the people outside the box argue that there is no box, and even further some people make the argument that not only is there a box, but that there is a cat in the box, which opens up this whole debate, since there are those that disagree and feel that there is neither a box nor a cat 🐈. The universe is a three dimensional go board of implications and possibilities. Just my two cents. Looking forward to learning from and playing with you! Cheers!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or...it's just about territory vs influence =)

  • @davereilly8361
    @davereilly8361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be so helpful if you linked to a video of the fellows you mentioned in your description

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We didn't include them because we thought that those games are too advanced for beginner players if seen in their entirety =)

    • @davereilly8361
      @davereilly8361 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoMagic fair enough. Google is a thing, so we can always look it up ourselves. Thanks!

  • @SebastienBEIRNAERT
    @SebastienBEIRNAERT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍

  • @GG-iy2oz
    @GG-iy2oz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I have a question: would you say that investing on influence by pushing the opponent towards the corner is less convenient on a 13x13 board, as there is less territory at the center?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Difficult question! I think yes, the value of corners on 13 should be higher...

    • @GG-iy2oz
      @GG-iy2oz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoMagic thanks, love your videos! I feel like I am learning a lot:)

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to hear that!

  • @frezzingaces
    @frezzingaces ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused at 6:08. I thought territory had to be fully surrounded by a single colour's tiles to be counted - as in no gaps in the wall. But here you say that last move transforms the potential energy of the wall into territory. But it's not surrounded yet right? Is my understanding completely wrong? Or are you just meaning black is now in a much better position to convert that space into territory in the future?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your understanding is correct! No worries. It was a poetic exaggeration, Vadim was just trying to show that while White was running and making zero points, every move of Black counted toward that potential territory at the top. White could still try to invade there though.

    • @frezzingaces
      @frezzingaces ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoMagic Thanks for the detailed answer!

  • @theadventurer6630
    @theadventurer6630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello. Where can I see this full game between Cho Chikun and Takemiya Misaki?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can input the first few moves here - ps.waltheri.net/
      and you'll find it =)

    • @theadventurer6630
      @theadventurer6630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoMagic Thank you very much

    • @erikgolikov8849
      @erikgolikov8849 ปีที่แล้ว

      Takemiya Masaki actually lost that game! :) and looking at their history seems like Chikun won way more than Takemiya. Does that mean that the taking corners is more effective?

  • @osXcanada
    @osXcanada ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I figured out my style... White and Black stones play against me!

  • @thenakedsingularity
    @thenakedsingularity หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so interesting that you showed us a real expert game. Do you have videos where you go through the entire game? Thank you,

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you mean a whole video review? If so, you can also check this one: th-cam.com/video/Pte0hfc_KOE/w-d-xo.html

  • @daniloferreirac7939
    @daniloferreirac7939 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wanna know how that game developed from where you left

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not the point of the video =)

    • @daniloferreirac7939
      @daniloferreirac7939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoMagic i might have expressed poorly: what i meant was that the storytelling about it got me hooked
      i already finished it, not in video though

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! That's the effect we were aiming for =)

  • @FahimHoq
    @FahimHoq หลายเดือนก่อน

    the title reminds me of physics class 😅

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😁

  • @rexoverwatch
    @rexoverwatch ปีที่แล้ว

    is 5x5 go solved? :)

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it is

    • @AubreyBarnard
      @AubreyBarnard หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Go#cite_ref-33

  • @jessstuart7495
    @jessstuart7495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Influential + Intuitive = Influative. Somebody call Webster.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hehe 🤓

  • @thegametaka
    @thegametaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the magic

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The magic is in every video!

    • @awedamnitscam
      @awedamnitscam ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The magic was in you the whole time.

    • @Ryansomebody
      @Ryansomebody ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe the real magic was the influence we made along the way

    • @-_deploy_-
      @-_deploy_- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The magic is inside your brain

  • @JungleScene
    @JungleScene ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where should we go to watch games? should I just watch random ones on youtube or do you have a curated list somewhere?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watching any games gives you more experience, but we might make a proper list one day.