Territory and Influence: Kinetic and Potential Energies in Go Game

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  • These two are as black and white or day and night. They are the two sides of the same coin. When one player gets territory, their opponent normally gets influence and vice versa. Let's learn about the difference between them and how to use it in your games.
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    00:00:00 Intro and 3-3 invasion
    00:02:32 The iron wall of influence
    00:03:52 Using influence to attack
    00:06:51 Sanrensei
    00:08:51 Cho Chikun vs Takemiya Masaki game example

ความคิดเห็น • 55

  • @cbleslie
    @cbleslie ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Informative. Now to play a game and completely forget all that I have absorbed. As is tradition.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This video is not meant to teach you new tricks. But more advanced lessons are probably better to be rewatched for max efficiency =)

  • @yankj7647
    @yankj7647 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I really like Takemiya Masaki's "Universe Style". I've used this to beat many players several levels above me.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yeah!

  • @JozefLewitzky
    @JozefLewitzky ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please keep making Go videos! There are so few great creators of Go content in English, and your style is fantastic! Looking forward to the next one.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you kindly! More videos and courses are coming.

  • @ZSh0ck
    @ZSh0ck ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love the production value of your videos. I haven't played Go in years and forgot everything about the game. Listening to you made me remember how good it felt to watch a good match.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! That feeling of excitement when playing a good game or even talking about it with friends is also very precious to us.

  • @elijahide9880
    @elijahide9880 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Phenomenal content, and extremely helpful too 👍 thank you

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for watching and enjoying our videos! 👍

  • @dem8568
    @dem8568 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool stuff. Thanks for such well made videos.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😆

  • @zsoltorban
    @zsoltorban ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for presenting these two styles. Easy to follow and professionaly made video. Keep up the good work!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are happy you like it!

  • @bosmacbos2037
    @bosmacbos2037 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite of this channel

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @Sevastoni
    @Sevastoni ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another amazing video. Thank you very much.

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yaaay!

  • @josesantibanez2716
    @josesantibanez2716 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first video that I looked, and I will watch a lot more of this channel. I really liked hoy you explain it. Kudos and keep up the good work 💪🏻

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and welcome!

  • @Sada-li8ej
    @Sada-li8ej ปีที่แล้ว +2

    funny thing is, according to KataGo black's extension move on the bottom side (O4) is 2 points better than the attack on the white stone (C13). Although, O4 extension also server as a very high pressure move on the lone white stone in the right corner

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, that's one of those things where we as educators allow ourselves to disagree with AI sometimes, if it makes for a more logical and humanly conceivable line of play.

  • @SpiritAnimalGO
    @SpiritAnimalGO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @davereilly8361
    @davereilly8361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be so helpful if you linked to a video of the fellows you mentioned in your description

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We didn't include them because we thought that those games are too advanced for beginner players if seen in their entirety =)

    • @davereilly8361
      @davereilly8361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoMagic fair enough. Google is a thing, so we can always look it up ourselves. Thanks!

  • @dangianfagna
    @dangianfagna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exciting. Stimulating. Some people inside the box value the idea of thinking outside the box, whereas some of the people outside the box argue that there is no box, and even further some people make the argument that not only is there a box, but that there is a cat in the box, which opens up this whole debate, since there are those that disagree and feel that there is neither a box nor a cat 🐈. The universe is a three dimensional go board of implications and possibilities. Just my two cents. Looking forward to learning from and playing with you! Cheers!

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or...it's just about territory vs influence =)

  • @theadventurer6630
    @theadventurer6630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello. Where can I see this full game between Cho Chikun and Takemiya Misaki?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can input the first few moves here - ps.waltheri.net/
      and you'll find it =)

    • @theadventurer6630
      @theadventurer6630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoMagic Thank you very much

    • @erikgolikov8849
      @erikgolikov8849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Takemiya Masaki actually lost that game! :) and looking at their history seems like Chikun won way more than Takemiya. Does that mean that the taking corners is more effective?

  • @GG-iy2oz
    @GG-iy2oz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I have a question: would you say that investing on influence by pushing the opponent towards the corner is less convenient on a 13x13 board, as there is less territory at the center?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Difficult question! I think yes, the value of corners on 13 should be higher...

    • @GG-iy2oz
      @GG-iy2oz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoMagic thanks, love your videos! I feel like I am learning a lot:)

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happy to hear that!

  • @JungleScene
    @JungleScene 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where should we go to watch games? should I just watch random ones on youtube or do you have a curated list somewhere?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Watching any games gives you more experience, but we might make a proper list one day.

  • @osXcanada
    @osXcanada 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I figured out my style... White and Black stones play against me!

  • @frezzingaces
    @frezzingaces 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm confused at 6:08. I thought territory had to be fully surrounded by a single colour's tiles to be counted - as in no gaps in the wall. But here you say that last move transforms the potential energy of the wall into territory. But it's not surrounded yet right? Is my understanding completely wrong? Or are you just meaning black is now in a much better position to convert that space into territory in the future?

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your understanding is correct! No worries. It was a poetic exaggeration, Vadim was just trying to show that while White was running and making zero points, every move of Black counted toward that potential territory at the top. White could still try to invade there though.

    • @frezzingaces
      @frezzingaces 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoMagic Thanks for the detailed answer!

  • @daniloferreirac7939
    @daniloferreirac7939 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wanna know how that game developed from where you left

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not the point of the video =)

    • @daniloferreirac7939
      @daniloferreirac7939 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoMagic i might have expressed poorly: what i meant was that the storytelling about it got me hooked
      i already finished it, not in video though

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! That's the effect we were aiming for =)

  • @rexoverwatch
    @rexoverwatch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is 5x5 go solved? :)

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe it is

  • @thegametaka
    @thegametaka ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the magic

    • @GoMagic
      @GoMagic  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The magic is in every video!

    • @awedamnitscam84
      @awedamnitscam84 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The magic was in you the whole time.

    • @Ryansomebody
      @Ryansomebody 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Maybe the real magic was the influence we made along the way

    • @-_deploy_-
      @-_deploy_- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The magic is inside your brain