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AUGUST 28, 2020: It was the clash on economics and finance everyone
was looking forward to. Did Finance Minister the Jamaica Labour Party’s
Dr Nigel Clarke do enough to convince voters to stick with his party or did the People’s National Party’s Mark Golding make the case for why Jamaicans should trust his party with the treasury in these times of crisis?
Senior Gleaner Reporter Jovan Johnson is joined in studio with Senior Business Gleaner Reporter Neville Graham, and on Zoom, Economist Dennis Chung, Head Coach for the Northern Caribbean University Debating Team, Noreen Daley and Gleaner Columnist David Salmon to discuss the second political debate.
Gleaner should be ashame of this panel they are bias
Honestly this analysis was so biased. Disappointed that even our scholars and researchers didn't do better. Wow..... it's really sad.
Negil was confident and convincing
Also passionate
I don't see Clarke as passionate but on edge or very aggressive. He doesn't sound truthful. I ththink Mark won the debate. He was calm and not shouting to be heard. He has great plans to bring back recovery by providing rent to own homes and by giving poor people some form of stimulus.
Well said mi agree
Nigel won for me, it's a manifesto debate and he came across alot more believable to me, I think the analyst are expecting too much, if it was a budget debate I would understand! this is just apart of the election hype!! Anyways, i tend to agree with Dennis alot more because he comes across more balance and not bias as others!!!
This discussion is distasteful need better panelists and host
Yes I agree the panel and some of the question is rubbish
I think them should let them do it naturally to each other I don't like the question ask by the panel and some social media questions
Clark come to bring Jamaica out of a hole that PNP put us in you realize how him talk to the people
I don't want no new man to come raise up tax at this time because that's what the PNP would of to do because them don't educated enough to govern our economy so them would of go higher more advisor to advise them and you know that no free and cheap
Them put some people who not even no who is the governor general name how can you used a dear Care school students to make a panel and Host of a high quality debate
Have any of these panelist ever judge a debate before. Gleaner get younger persons on your panel that can think outside their political allegiances.
Neville Graham, I'm so glad you're on this panel. I didn't know which debate some of the others watched
The panelists were watching a different debate from the rest of the country or is it that they drank too much of the orange Kool aid and can't be unbiased and call it a draw
What kind of garbage oono a asked Nigel Clarke straight..
Yes Nigel we want a government that think through....make sense to build the house properly, if not will cost the country dearly when it spoil.
Well said
Think We need different people judging this! The economist was the better judge was the only one who made much honesty sense
This is the first in history that the members of parliament have the wife to be speaker of the House no where else in the world of politics this has happened
Great review 👍
Nigel Clarke win by a country mile.
Nigel understand that we are in a pandemic crisis. Mark was out of touch with the reality
Nigel took it
Jamaicans should wise up, the putting on a show can’t define the future for the next 4 years. It has to be based on substance and content.
You are a future person!!
The hand up must stop if you give a man a fish he is gone come back but give a net he will learn to fish as a people we must try to move forward if we are going to be a better country
Apparently, the other three panelists, besides Mr. Dell by Chuck, was sleeping during the debate. Nice to get away Chuck was obviously had his eyes in years on as he scrutinize and separate the issues and concluded the position of who is clearly the winner. The other three panelists were kind of bias or either have their own agenda hi Cynthia just was sleeping I have the eyes and he is shot wide open.
Jamaicans are now thinking for ourselves . We are thinking people
We mark and his administration getting money so fast in this pandemic.we have to think about recovery and build the economy
Well done Minister Clarke,I love your honest tell it like is approach. We are in the midst of the greatest economic challenge that the world and this country has ever face. No sugarcoating is going to help the economy. You stated the facts and what we are facing as a nation. The PNP is promising the sky but have not tell the Jamaican people how and where they are going to find the money to pay for their “in the pipeline “ dreams amid shrinking government revenues!
Dennis just can't give Mark a break where he got the edge. He would rather say neither of them.
D Chung a bias how can you make 7147 house and say you make 20000
@@norbertclarke1920 can I tell you?
Nigel came prepared Nigel did very well
Mark was sleeping
Mark didn't come to cuss Mark is more.intelligent than nigel cussing.dont make. U a better debater
@@godschild7116 dem have dropsy
Nigel was excellent...clearly Mark couldn’t honestly sell what he truly doesn’t believe in..the pnp are clearly out of options
@@tonytanner3048 Facts....everybody is just pointing at PNP. ..both parties are the same
There is a clear win to mr nigel excellent when ur going up u must do research mark and be realistic with ur goals pipe line fail once more
There have to be some history because when people telling lies you have to straighten it out
I am very disappointed in the Analysis. It seems like only Mr. Chung and Jovan is will to call a spade.
Mark won for me on the issues. Idk any debate where style and delivery weighs more. Especially a debate as important as this.
😂 your out of touch with reality
Dr. Clarke was the clear winner on the night. 2-0 to team JLP
Yes he did the best
Dr Clark is the winner of the second debate it was crystal clear.
Draw!! Lol
Nigel Clark won the debate.
No question about that
Wow this man is so educated n intelligent omg👍
Nigel did very well
Mr Graham is leaning towards one person and trying to discredit one even when everyone agrees that one person did better, the young man is also clearly a supporter of his party and every answer was towards his party
Gleaner bring on three pnp which is obviously bias, however, when the three of them can only come up with a draw you know Nigel is the clear winner. As biased are they are they cannot give Nigel a loss based on his overwhelmingly strong performance.
Noreen are we listening to the same debate...please
Clark
Every time I have watched a series of debates with PNP and jlp I would select jlp
Mr Clarke is the clear winner in my view
Golding won hands down. Nigel is smart and did his best though
@@godschild7116 Really I was wide awake. Nigel spent most of his time doing rebuttals. If I was still in Jamaica I couldnt vote for JLP with all these scandals. Its a shame that no politician has gone to jail yet. At least Portia sent JAG smith to jail.
Is the clear loser
You are so lie Bruce wreck this county Mr. Phillip but us.back on. Foot all help do is scrap for them self and we the people suffer i.am old.enough to.know .the .p np do so much for this county name.one school that jlp build since been elected u sheeple are so blind are better under a jlp I.am not i am a vendor and i can attests to that
@@godschild7116 yes,🤣😂😂😂a wah dunce dat
You people full of #garvage. .Because it wasn't in your favour
No doubt prime minister golding.
Style blinded dennis ,the young guy understands, dennis too program.
I saw and argument there was no string points
these are tge same people who want to lead at a later date distasteful
Well to me it most be a first for everything some people are saying is the first in life they see member of parliament wife be the speaker of the house and i would like to ask what happen to andrew how i am not hearing him i am only hearing about mark golding like is him is the prime minister.
Why didn't you invite Ralston Hyman?
You guys chose sho you wants who did you vote for ?
Missing from the debate/ conversation is a plan to change the public sector salary schedule from monthly to fortnightly, until that is down your prosperity plan will benefit the entrepreneurs only, the public sector workers who make up the middle class will continue to live hand to mouth for the most part, corruption will continue and prosperity will continue to elude the public sector workers.
The answers are time bound so how could they be explaining terms
Jovan is clearly a bright spot at the PNP Gleaner, very neutral and unbiased. Neville Graham is clearly a PNP supporting both the Gleaner's PNP and PNP's agenda.
IDC too much abt the rest of the PNP plans but if they can pull off the Rent to home scheme. They would have won for Jamaicans. So yes some of the plans go fall through but that is brilliant and worth even just attempting. Mark said do it in phases n I am all for it.
This attempt failed in the past. After a time, the home owners didn't want to pay and it ran down and became ghettos
@@lynchtha1don I would like to learn more about the previous failed attempts. Can you direct me to examples or who or when?
Miss you were you sleeping when the debate were going on? Nigel do very well
Nigel was it for me
Did****
Rita u made a good point.
David gwan because u sound bias
Is the debate a win for anyone ,no its tge people business
Maybe they have Backers that aren't Thieves and Robbers of the People we do still have Individuals in the World like that Shame on you all ...
If you DNT say Nigel win u a die hearted pnp and don't use your open mind on the matters Mark just seem uninterested
Mark was evidently not interested
Disappointed not well thought out.....people open your eyes its not about us its about our children......
Me Clarke won with Flying colorist the JLP won
They both did poorly. Avoided all the questions. Nigel's arguments are not reflective in the lives of the people. Mark plans doesn't seem feasible. I wasn't convinced. We want to hear plans for job creation where citizens can make livable wages. Livable will eradicate the need for government assistance.
Mark take the debate for the PNP
And that's why Jamaica is in the state it is - no-one can be honest. Clarke was more credible and he won.
honestly pnp win the 2 debate
A guess you have a hearing problem if you can say pnp win two debate,of course them win yes with no one behind them?damn fool a think u watch the wrong debate a no the Jamaican debate you watch,because if u did watch it an listen carefully you would have who have the better plan for the country?but enuh too die hearted,JLP win the two debate they have a better plan for the country?i guess the pnp never ready yet for a debate they are not sure what they are talking about,so go back an listen the two debate an come back with facts,enuh don’t listen an see say pnp don’t know what shit what they are talking about, so a those people enuh want to run country,I can’t wait fi here what sleepy coming with Saturday night,you all need to put him into a pampers before the debate start because Andrew going to send his ass to the toilet.because him don’t know one thing that’s going on in the country.
Steve Jargon and I guess that’s the party u like
Chat fart. Off course the PnP win the two debates. This woman must believe that the people can eat Chinese road.
Country need to invest in the technology sector and become leaders in the Caribbean encourage the young to focus on the future and not the past.Jlp have a certain section of the society to cater for which means the tend to pay the least attention to the needy part of society.
Smh, thats what messing up Jamaica, the one way thinking, not because you prefer that party, you say they won, they clearly lost
That is not honest pnp did not win this time the jlp did much better if you are not taken any side.
Clarke
Because u like.tracing
Noreene and the others are biased that young green brilliant man tired biased SET
Nigel trace alot when he no its facts,big up mark.dennis bias.
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Too many big words? and some of the people can't understand nuff things that Nigel spoke about, u have to out line ur plan to Jamaican people so they can get ha better understanding and Mark did that.
I think you are blind from the 18years that PNP rule this country, JLP take 4 to do what the PNP couldn't do in 18years
@@oneilsamond2797 what is that? is any program or community center building in community and may I ask why are you voteing?
@@ricardodaley6798because it is a right to vote , are you going to vote?, list to me my brother ! Open your eyes an look for urself, and u will see the picture clearly, come September 3 we!!!! the young men and women of Jamaica will be voting to continue the program of prosperity, vote JLP
Dennis Chung a Laborite, he needs to stop being bias.
At least you don't hide yours.
Why don't these analysis put on their party colours, it's obvious which party they support can't you guys just be honest and say it as is kmt
Dennis Chung straight fckn labourite
john smith we are all Jamaicans, hence we do belong to a party. Being bias won’t help the nation and by extension will not help the people. It has to be based on substance and content.
You no have much sense looking at some one is the least
Narine your spoke the truth I listen to what you said at first and when you heard what the other analyst said you smile and came to the just conclusion .the jlp won by far
We need bipartisan panelists, we want people who ago come and speak honestly. Nigel deflect on a lot of questions, such as plans for the sliding dollar. Mark has good ideas however, Some are not feasible. I like the rent to own plan though. I was hard to pay attention to Mark, too boring man. We want value added jobs, we want the dollar to stabilize and we want to create other areas ( other than tourism) to make money. I wanted to here bout JPS light bill in relation to the sliding dollar.
Does the way you deliver matter it seems yes but should it not just be the policies know wo der why Jamaica is in this position. All your Points are foolishness , all that matters is the direction each Party is looking to take Jamaica and the Jamaican People. You've heard and seen the truth about the JLP this is your problem.
Such a waste of time you all may as well have stayed home😢😢
That not true Mark Golding definitely comes out on top
Dinnis your mind is so dirty.
Rember them give him work so him have to take up fi them
😳 Do u know what a dirty mind look like? Lets not curse each other for politicians, Show some love!
Admit to fact
Jlp go around conner pnp just come straight
I for one thinks that they didn't do very well, the worse debate Eva in Jamaica.
Nigal. Clark all the way
I totally agree with you on this. Worst debate ever!
You people knows nothing about economics, practically
Mr Golden win, too much tracing from Clark
Clarke told some lies. Dissatisfied with him now.
Go vote fi old tired Peter Phillips most commentators are pnp propaganda..
JLP
DJ genius fr west u music bad
Pnp for the people
Pnp all the way
Nigel no good
Nigel took it