I just finished setting up the X-10 for 9mm with the Franklin Arsenal bullet feeder and a Mark 7 powder check. It works well, but there is literally inadequate space around the powder check with the bullet feeder installed. You're supposed to tighten down the lock nut on the powder check, but there is no way to fit a wrench around the nut. I could only barely do finger tight because my fingers didn't fit either. Plus there is minimal room to tighten the two hex screws on the powder check as well. 😒
How would you compare this with an 1100 from Dillon it’s obviously half the price for “the same press” or same style and capabilities. I’ve heard it takes a fair amount of tinkering and fine tuning to get the x10 running perfect
I got mine at the end of October and it is the most attention seeking press to get setup I’ve ever had 🤣. I still haven’t completed a usable round but I honestly just got my bullet feeder in last week. I’m thinking of running straight back to my old Dillon 650 and deal with swaging off press when needed. It’s a very interesting press but I’ve had to buy a lot of stuff to fill the 10 stations that I don’t need on a 650/750.
Honestly had nothing but problems with my first x10 after about 6k rounds of 9mm made and a couple hundred 300 blk, and scheels sent me a second machine to replace the first after a bearing blew apart on the left of the machine that advances the plate. Thr hopper also broke. So far not at all impressed with it for 300 blk. Going to attempt to reload 223 next but so far very disappointed with the near 2k worth of plates, and parts I've bought for the machine with multiple top plates and powder droppers. I really wanted to run this with the bullet auto feed but I'm tempted just to ask scheels to take back all this junk.
Used Dillon from 1990 until 2022. Have Lee 6000 that I used a year. I have an x-10 I got In August. This press runs like 0:01 a charm. Index adjust must be perfect or Prono
@@eberhoozen ive loaded another 6k 223 and the primer station went from perfect on 9mm to busting about 1 in 100 primers deadlining the machine untill you remove the primer assembly. Overall, I do not feel like the machine was made to make 5 to 10k a year which is a shame. It seems to offer alot of value when it works, no question. But if I was trying to buy 1 multi caliber press, buy the dillon super 1050 or the latest and greatest. You'll spend double what this x10 will cost you, but its going to be fully supported and a lot less heartache. I really am surprised that @ultimate reloader suggests these with the issues I've had.
I just bought one of these after having an XL650 for decades (I bought it when they were first released, sold about 5 years ago, still running like new). Overall it's a good machine, but there are a few short-comings: - Wire routing is a mess - power cord is left rear on the toolhead with a short-ish cord that requires it to lay on my benchtop), and right side or right rear for the case hopper requiring a separate AC outlet. - Caliber changes SUCK, especially when you have to change primer sizes (due to primer & swage rod. What is a 5-10 minute job on the Dillon is a 45+ minute job on this machine, even with separate toolhead, powder measure, etc. - The counter-clockwise rotation of the shell plate takes some getting used to, but not a big deal. - The entire machine is coated in so much grease and oil you'll spend hours cleaning everything, but that's a one-time deal. - Not being able to remove a case at the priming station is a huge PITA. - Assembly is simple and well-documented (don't lose that manual! They don't have them on the website (WTH FA ?!?) but will take several evenings... VERY tedious (somebody on TH-cam made a 5 or 6 part series on assembly, spanning several hours). - I have had countless issues with FA's non-existent customer service - I shouldn't even have this machine, but they chose to ignore my repeated emails and calls over a 3 week period while waiting for my "in-stock" order to ship. All that said, it's a great machine FOR THE MONEY (unlike the M-Press, which is a total POS - mine is broken in multiple common well documented ways from other videos going back years and nobody at FA can be reached to do anything about it). There is basically one reason to choose this press over a Dillon: Price, especially when going multi-caliber, the dollar difference is far from trivial. That being said, you pay on the back- end with non-existent customer service (Dillon's is the best in the business) and ridiculously long and convoluted caliber changes. I'm on an insanely tight budget and it took a year or more to save for this. If I had it to do over again and wasn't in some extenuating circumstances, I would have waited another year and got the XL750. Hope this helps.
I’m having a heck of a time trying to seat my 125 RN blue bullets. They feed perfectly down to the die. I can’t get the seating depth right without jamming up the press. I haven’t got to the bottom of the issue yet but I’m working on it. Honestly I’m looking at just going back to my XL650 and putting this bullet feeder on it lol. I really like the swaging on this press but everything else is extra. I don’t need a powder check on my 650 since it’s literally right in front of my face.
@@kevinbrandt4822on a Dillon double alpha sells a powder thru die for Mr bullet feeder that is just a bit bigger for belling the case mouth for coated lead. Probably doesn't help the x10. Maybe add a M style flaring station before placing and seating.
I have the X-10 and don't have the bullet feeder yet. I've tried the Lee bullet feeder and didn't really like it much in 22 caliber. I've had several problems with the press so far. Currently, the plate advancing shuttle screw has broken off, so the shell plate doesn't advance. This is likely due to the screw holding the unit is very small and possibly the many issues I've experienced with the primer unit. Primers get cocked and locks up the press, and damages the shell plate gear, etc.
Cool stuff. I still use lee stuff as it's what I can afford. 9mm isn't worth the cost to reload at the moment. But I could see loading with this would make 1k rounds more do-able.
I feel like 9mm factory is more expensive now than ever, i find it interesting you don't think it's worth reloading. That being said most of my materials were purchased before 2020.
Fair statement. All my purchases have been 2022 and 2023, with one brick of primers costing $125 at one point. The only thing cost effective for me to load in 9mm was 124gr XTP to plus p. @@buickspecial6960
With free range brass and Hi-Tek coated bullets you can still do 9mm for half the price of even the cheapest ammo found online. My local academy has CCI small pistol and CFE pistol in stock so I'm not paying double price to have it shipped via hazmat. Saying it's not worth reloading is kinda crazy.
I'm torn between the Dillon and the X-10 both are comparable in pricing and have used Dillon presses for years Dillon's no BS warrantee is hard to beat which to Buy ?
I’ve been loading on Dillons since 1992 and this was going to replace my 650. I purchased it late October. At the moment I have buyers remorse but I’m definitely trying to work through it. I just got my bullet feeder setup. If I went with an 1100 it would be running day 1 🤣. This is a very heavy duty press with some weak points and one of the biggest weaknesses IMO is the complexity of getting it to produce out of the box. I’m not throwing in the towel yet though but I honestly have a bit blue envy at this point.
What is their warranty and customer service I have a dillonnfolr 1990s and they still send me a part free of charge if I need it. So if these guys don't do that figure spares and downtime over a lifetime may justify the extra 1k.for a dillion?
Will the 45acp caliber bullet seating work with 45 LC , they aren’t offering a setup for the long colt yet. This will be the final piece to make my X-10 exactly what I wanted, works great with the RCBS powder check lockup die it works flawlessly. Now for a faster method to load primer tube!
I doubt it'll work with other presses. I own one of these and there is actually a dedicated hole for the feeder just ahead of the seating die. The press was designed with this feature already planned. The hole in the toolhead has no threads but just the bolt holes for the bushing to mount where teh shuttle slides the bullet under the seating die on the down stroke.
Just a general question: for the x-10, you can switch caliber, right? If so, what parts would I have to look at getting to switch to a different caliber?
China. But to be honest, I use Dillon 650 long time and their quality of some parts is very bad. powder measure body and lower part cracks very often, I have plenty of them cracked. It's made of powder steel, with some very sharp edges so there is not too much material and thus it cracks easily
@@farmerwayne1404 😀 yeah but I really understand why there is not normal handle by default. You will become tired very quickly with this. Well, I already have XL650 so it doesn't bother me but to have crimp swagger would be great. Moreover, Dillon quality is getting bad. Their powder body just cracks like crazy.
That bullet feeder/seater die is too complicated and will cause issues as time goes on... This is all due to a poorly designed powder measure... They should have designed a case-activated powder drop system like Hornady's or RCBS' that could be installed in any station independently, so feeding and seating could be done separately. People could use their existing bullet feeders... I'm using my RCBS powder measure on the 6th station, powder measure on the 7th, feeder on the 8th, seater on the 9th and crimper on the last... That way you can feed pistol, rifle, any kind of bullets without going through a major calibre change exercise...!
I’ve read and watched a lot of videos on this press and the Dillion 750. I reload 1000-1500rds of bulk ammo a month and another 2-300rds of short and long action stuff. I just can’t justify dropping $1000 plus expensive caliber changes. My lee 6000 with the typical lee tinkering will do 500rds plus an hour for stuff like 9mm and 38spl all for $400 including bullet feeder and can do 100rds plus with my Lyman AA turret and and my rock chucker if I need a single stage and still come in under $1000. I’m not sure about Lyman but both RCBS and Lee have really good customer service. From what I’ve see if you need higher volume then the 750 XL is the way to go. Another problem for us poors is I could never afford the components to feed a 750 xl or X-10 to its potential
i was excited to buy this until i saw that it takes over an hour to do a caliber change, that turned me off so bad i was never so dissapointed, this press is made to set up the machine and load thousands of rounds, i like to change calibers in 1 minutes with my hornady, the net best thing i think i am going to go with the lee pro 6000 6 stations is more then u will ever need, this press is way to complex and its not gonna make u load any faster then anyone elses and god forbid somehting gets stuck or breaks i think its gonna be a nightmare.. i dont believe any reviews cause there all sponsored people.
I’ve got the lee 6000. I got it for under $350 plus $50 for the lee bullet feeder. It works pretty well typical lee tinkering but once it’s running I can do about 500rds per hour. You can switch rounds in 30min or so but that includes die set up and setting the powder charge. The bushing lock dies work well. I’d rate it an 8 out of 10. I had to contact Lee with a question got an email back the same day. It’s about $100 to switch calibers. If you wanted you could do 3 presses dedicated to a round and still be under what the Dillion or X-10 are
But is my HOTTEST XMAS-wish.. GREAT machine... 💪🤗 - as far as I've heard/read about... 👂/ 🤓 For .38spl, .357Mag., 9 and the .45... 🍀🤞🍀 Only minusses which are obviously to me: Made in ***na - 🥺💩 Why not accessible as a totally complete set ALL inclusive for one caliber. Now it's necessary to buy extra: Shell holder, bulletfeeder bulletseater and Powdercheck. And those accessories are often backorder... 🥺 Why not just complete inclusive all ... 🙄 And possible to buy for the extra calibers one wish...? Looks like an extraordinary good and reliable superpress (semi-factory) - 😋😍 Please help me get one. Only sporadically available at the European Continent... 🥺
I just finished setting up the X-10 for 9mm with the Franklin Arsenal bullet feeder and a Mark 7 powder check. It works well, but there is literally inadequate space around the powder check with the bullet feeder installed. You're supposed to tighten down the lock nut on the powder check, but there is no way to fit a wrench around the nut. I could only barely do finger tight because my fingers didn't fit either. Plus there is minimal room to tighten the two hex screws on the powder check as well. 😒
I have yet to see a video of an X10 making 38 special or 357 mag . I would love to see you make one
That is one slick machine you have there !
will be nice when FA comes out with a rifle bullet feeder set up. That will seal the deal for me to purchase.
Thinking about adding a bullet feeder to my rig. Damn it’s loud. Needs a lid. Nice vid.
Really like the idea that it replaces the seating die and doesn't take up toolhead space.
Also that it removed the issue of the bullet from falling off during the next stroke to then seat the bullet.
Yeah I wonder if this system could be made to work on a Dillon 1050/1100.
now when are they making a bullet feed for 220 gr 300 blackout?
How would you compare this with an 1100 from Dillon it’s obviously half the price for “the same press” or same style and capabilities. I’ve heard it takes a fair amount of tinkering and fine tuning to get the x10 running perfect
I got mine at the end of October and it is the most attention seeking press to get setup I’ve ever had 🤣. I still haven’t completed a usable round but I honestly just got my bullet feeder in last week. I’m thinking of running straight back to my old Dillon 650 and deal with swaging off press when needed. It’s a very interesting press but I’ve had to buy a lot of stuff to fill the 10 stations that I don’t need on a 650/750.
Would like o see a video about powder check dies for this machine. Extremely tight quarters on the machine.
thats a very long stroke on the lever
They have to address that at some point in future upgrades...I don't see how you could do much volume as it is presently geared w/o shoulder pain.
I would love to see the X-10 do revolver cartridge reloading. You choose the caliber but no round nose bullets.
Will there be a rifle projectile one?
Honestly had nothing but problems with my first x10 after about 6k rounds of 9mm made and a couple hundred 300 blk, and scheels sent me a second machine to replace the first after a bearing blew apart on the left of the machine that advances the plate. Thr hopper also broke. So far not at all impressed with it for 300 blk. Going to attempt to reload 223 next but so far very disappointed with the near 2k worth of plates, and parts I've bought for the machine with multiple top plates and powder droppers. I really wanted to run this with the bullet auto feed but I'm tempted just to ask scheels to take back all this junk.
You for your honest comment this is a main reason why I will stick to my Dillon
Noticed range of motion on handle is a bit to much .
Used Dillon from 1990 until 2022. Have Lee 6000 that I used a year. I have an x-10 I got In August. This press runs like 0:01 a charm. Index adjust must be perfect or
Prono
Have you got it working now?
@@eberhoozen ive loaded another 6k 223 and the primer station went from perfect on 9mm to busting about 1 in 100 primers deadlining the machine untill you remove the primer assembly. Overall, I do not feel like the machine was made to make 5 to 10k a year which is a shame. It seems to offer alot of value when it works, no question. But if I was trying to buy 1 multi caliber press, buy the dillon super 1050 or the latest and greatest. You'll spend double what this x10 will cost you, but its going to be fully supported and a lot less heartache. I really am surprised that @ultimate reloader suggests these with the issues I've had.
I like it, considering getting one. What about priming? How easy is it to load primers and how many can you load at a time.
Primer and swage work on these but the rest of the machine is junk. Stay away.
I just bought one of these after having an XL650 for decades (I bought it when they were first released, sold about 5 years ago, still running like new). Overall it's a good machine, but there are a few short-comings:
- Wire routing is a mess - power cord is left rear on the toolhead with a short-ish cord that requires it to lay on my benchtop), and right side or right rear for the case hopper requiring a separate AC outlet.
- Caliber changes SUCK, especially when you have to change primer sizes (due to primer & swage rod. What is a 5-10 minute job on the Dillon is a 45+ minute job on this machine, even with separate toolhead, powder measure, etc.
- The counter-clockwise rotation of the shell plate takes some getting used to, but not a big deal.
- The entire machine is coated in so much grease and oil you'll spend hours cleaning everything, but that's a one-time deal.
- Not being able to remove a case at the priming station is a huge PITA.
- Assembly is simple and well-documented (don't lose that manual! They don't have them on the website (WTH FA ?!?) but will take several evenings... VERY tedious (somebody on TH-cam made a 5 or 6 part series on assembly, spanning several hours).
- I have had countless issues with FA's non-existent customer service - I shouldn't even have this machine, but they chose to ignore my repeated emails and calls over a 3 week period while waiting for my "in-stock" order to ship.
All that said, it's a great machine FOR THE MONEY (unlike the M-Press, which is a total POS - mine is broken in multiple common well documented ways from other videos going back years and nobody at FA can be reached to do anything about it).
There is basically one reason to choose this press over a Dillon: Price, especially when going multi-caliber, the dollar difference is far from trivial. That being said, you pay on the back- end with non-existent customer service (Dillon's is the best in the business) and ridiculously long and convoluted caliber changes.
I'm on an insanely tight budget and it took a year or more to save for this. If I had it to do over again and wasn't in some extenuating circumstances, I would have waited another year and got the XL750.
Hope this helps.
mine has been working great so far in 9mm, what issues did you have with yours?@@chadjones7722
Gettin two of these. one for my 9mm and one for my 300 blk
Will the blue bullets feed through this system? Or any powder coated bullets? I guess tumble lube and traditional lube cast bullets will not work?
I’m having a heck of a time trying to seat my 125 RN blue bullets. They feed perfectly down to the die. I can’t get the seating depth right without jamming up the press. I haven’t got to the bottom of the issue yet but I’m working on it. Honestly I’m looking at just going back to my XL650 and putting this bullet feeder on it lol. I really like the swaging on this press but everything else is extra. I don’t need a powder check on my 650 since it’s literally right in front of my face.
@@kevinbrandt4822on a Dillon double alpha sells a powder thru die for Mr bullet feeder that is just a bit bigger for belling the case mouth for coated lead. Probably doesn't help the x10. Maybe add a M style flaring station before placing and seating.
I wonder if that combined bullet feed/seater could be made to work on a Dillon 1050/1100?
u need to paint the black wall a different color or increase lighting
Digging the press! Not so much on wall color, black.
I have the X-10 and don't have the bullet feeder yet. I've tried the Lee bullet feeder and didn't really like it much in 22 caliber. I've had several problems with the press so far. Currently, the plate advancing shuttle screw has broken off, so the shell plate doesn't advance. This is likely due to the screw holding the unit is very small and possibly the many issues I've experienced with the primer unit. Primers get cocked and locks up the press, and damages the shell plate gear, etc.
I think it is a nice press, but I have a hard time seeing the black parts against the black walls!
Yea different backdrop would be beneficial, other then that great video
Cool stuff. I still use lee stuff as it's what I can afford. 9mm isn't worth the cost to reload at the moment. But I could see loading with this would make 1k rounds more do-able.
I feel like 9mm factory is more expensive now than ever, i find it interesting you don't think it's worth reloading. That being said most of my materials were purchased before 2020.
Fair statement. All my purchases have been 2022 and 2023, with one brick of primers costing $125 at one point. The only thing cost effective for me to load in 9mm was 124gr XTP to plus p. @@buickspecial6960
I want to try and adapt a power case feed and bullet feed to a Lee.
With free range brass and Hi-Tek coated bullets you can still do 9mm for half the price of even the cheapest ammo found online. My local academy has CCI small pistol and CFE pistol in stock so I'm not paying double price to have it shipped via hazmat. Saying it's not worth reloading is kinda crazy.
I'm torn between the Dillon and the X-10 both are comparable in pricing and have used Dillon presses for years Dillon's no BS warrantee is hard to beat which to Buy ?
I’ve been loading on Dillons since 1992 and this was going to replace my 650. I purchased it late October. At the moment I have buyers remorse but I’m definitely trying to work through it. I just got my bullet feeder setup. If I went with an 1100 it would be running day 1 🤣. This is a very heavy duty press with some weak points and one of the biggest weaknesses IMO is the complexity of getting it to produce out of the box. I’m not throwing in the towel yet though but I honestly have a bit blue envy at this point.
What is their warranty and customer service I have a dillonnfolr 1990s and they still send me a part free of charge if I need it. So if these guys don't do that figure spares and downtime over a lifetime may justify the extra 1k.for a dillion?
Will the 45acp caliber bullet seating work with 45 LC , they aren’t offering a setup for the long colt yet. This will be the final piece to make my X-10 exactly what I wanted, works great with the RCBS powder check lockup die it works flawlessly. Now for a faster method to load primer tube!
Man, I think the only missing item would be a lid for the bullet feeder for noise.
Cand you guys do some 145gr eldx 270win handload testing or even the 90gr eldx 243 bullets
I would be interested in seeing rifle loads, 223 maybe even 6 GT. Can you get accurate rifle rounds out of it?
yes a precision rifle load on the x10 would be awesome!
Is there a rifle feeder?
Is it more cost effective than the Mr. Bullet Feeder?
Will it work on other presses, like the Dillon XL750 ?
I doubt it'll work with other presses. I own one of these and there is actually a dedicated hole for the feeder just ahead of the seating die. The press was designed with this feature already planned. The hole in the toolhead has no threads but just the bolt holes for the bushing to mount where teh shuttle slides the bullet under the seating die on the down stroke.
Can you set up this x10 to do a wildcat rifle load, like maybe 375 raptor ammo
Just a general question: for the x-10, you can switch caliber, right? If so, what parts would I have to look at getting to switch to a different caliber?
Is there a bullet feeder for 223??
I wish I could afford a press like that
Is this press made in the USA?
China. But to be honest, I use Dillon 650 long time and their quality of some parts is very bad. powder measure body and lower part cracks very often, I have plenty of them cracked. It's made of powder steel, with some very sharp edges so there is not too much material and thus it cracks easily
China, but well made machine work is nice,need to clean threaded areas before assembly, otherwise no issues my press delivered Nov 1 23
Shorter handle might help. Unless your into rowing..
Yeah this is main fault of this otherwise nice press
@@ZhuJo99 I think there is a guy with a metal shop who could make a great handle. Uh-hemmm ,Gavin..
@@farmerwayne1404 😀 yeah but I really understand why there is not normal handle by default. You will become tired very quickly with this. Well, I already have XL650 so it doesn't bother me but to have crimp swagger would be great. Moreover, Dillon quality is getting bad. Their powder body just cracks like crazy.
@@ZhuJo99 Good to know!!
I think it was designed this way because there is probably an auto drive to come in the future
love it. you made epic unboxing. 📢
Your first video from the
I am looking at one 😉
I hope they releasi version 1.2 soon which fixes those many beta version issues
love it I want one
That bullet feeder/seater die is too complicated and will cause issues as time goes on... This is all due to a poorly designed powder measure... They should have designed a case-activated powder drop system like Hornady's or RCBS' that could be installed in any station independently, so feeding and seating could be done separately. People could use their existing bullet feeders... I'm using my RCBS powder measure on the 6th station, powder measure on the 7th, feeder on the 8th, seater on the 9th and crimper on the last... That way you can feed pistol, rifle, any kind of bullets without going through a major calibre change exercise...!
🥳✌️👍‼️
Neat reloader. Now…if I was to win PowerBall…
I’ve read and watched a lot of videos on this press and the Dillion 750. I reload 1000-1500rds of bulk ammo a month and another 2-300rds of short and long action stuff. I just can’t justify dropping $1000 plus expensive caliber changes. My lee 6000 with the typical lee tinkering will do 500rds plus an hour for stuff like 9mm and 38spl all for $400 including bullet feeder and can do 100rds plus with my Lyman AA turret and and my rock chucker if I need a single stage and still come in under $1000. I’m not sure about Lyman but both RCBS and Lee have really good customer service. From what I’ve see if you need higher volume then the 750 XL is the way to go. Another problem for us poors is I could never afford the components to feed a 750 xl or X-10 to its potential
now all they need is to make it automated
How 'bout some lights on the video next time. Black everything.
i was excited to buy this until i saw that it takes over an hour to do a caliber change, that turned me off so bad i was never so dissapointed, this press is made to set up the machine and load thousands of rounds, i like to change calibers in 1 minutes with my hornady, the net best thing i think i am going to go with the lee pro 6000 6 stations is more then u will ever need, this press is way to complex and its not gonna make u load any faster then anyone elses and god forbid somehting gets stuck or breaks i think its gonna be a nightmare.. i dont believe any reviews cause there all sponsored people.
I’ve got the lee 6000. I got it for under $350 plus $50 for the lee bullet feeder. It works pretty well typical lee tinkering but once it’s running I can do about 500rds per hour. You can switch rounds in 30min or so but that includes die set up and setting the powder charge. The bushing lock dies work well. I’d rate it an 8 out of 10. I had to contact Lee with a question got an email back the same day. It’s about $100 to switch calibers. If you wanted you could do 3 presses dedicated to a round and still be under what the Dillion or X-10 are
I think that's if you don't get extra plates
But is my HOTTEST XMAS-wish..
GREAT machine... 💪🤗 - as far as I've heard/read about... 👂/ 🤓
For .38spl, .357Mag., 9 and the .45... 🍀🤞🍀
Only minusses which are obviously to me:
Made in ***na - 🥺💩
Why not accessible as a totally complete set ALL inclusive for one caliber.
Now it's necessary to buy extra:
Shell holder,
bulletfeeder
bulletseater and
Powdercheck.
And those accessories are often backorder... 🥺
Why not just complete inclusive all ... 🙄
And possible to buy for the extra calibers one wish...?
Looks like an extraordinary good and reliable superpress (semi-factory) - 😋😍
Please help me get one. Only sporadically available at the European Continent... 🥺
Why recommend a channel like diy reloading it has 4 videos and has been dead for 3 years