I notice the presenter failed to ask why the Junta de Andalusia doesn't mandate greenhouses made of glass. While initially more expensive they wouldn't need to replace the plastic every four or five years. I also noticed that they took the film crew to greenhouses that were in good condition - in reality many of them are practically falling apart and pretty much held together with duct tape.
I also noticed they were proud to tout their water comes from the ocean and is desalinated, but made no mention of what they do with the toxic salt concentrate leftover...
@@jawadad73 if you think that highly concentrating all the salts and debris of ocean water into a thick slurry or chunks, and dropping it somewhere in the ocean (especially in the huge quantities and regularity of industrial production) WON'T affect water quality, marine life habitat, etc, you're a fool who's never owned an aquarium before. Why do we think we can take unlimited resources, dump unlimited untreated waste, and not experience consequences?... The lie that the oceans are too big for humans to destabilize was disproven decades ago.
ABOUT TIME - WAKE UP THE ARAB WORLD PUT YOUR BILLIONS TO GOOD USE AND TURN THE DESERT GREEN IV BEEN BANGING ON ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS WELL DONE TO THE SPANISH FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN
there are some good things about this. What about regenerating the ecosystem, or creating geodesic domes from glass that create ecosystems within it instead of covering it in plastic?
I want to grow food this way to help feed our communities. And in the meantime growing it now in my own small yard. We can all just start by growing something now.
Wow this is awesome. Why can't this system be replicated in all those countries that complain about lack of food when they are surrounded by the sea and desert? This goes to show that for every problem that we face, there's a solution and we must be willing to want to solve those problems with innovation. Also these tomatoes and cucumbers are so delicious and nutritious. It's my preference here in Europe.
the US is a lot more resourceful than this. and if you do something like this in the US, people like you will focus only on the negative environmental impact and not on the benefits.
Good idea. The southwestern states and Mexico could do this. Maybe solar powered desalination plants. I'm not sure if the fertilizer is organic though.
That white plastic is so expansive that it reflects enough light away to lower the local temperature a bit. Like a reverse of the usual urban heat island effect.
Using sand is nothing new to farming, I love Sand mountain tomatoes in Alabama. This farm in Spain is taking things as far as you can go and the next thought is where and when is a new location and the next innovation 😊
One of the realities we have to acknowledge, as the world becomes exponentially larger and more urbanized; you have to feed it too. We now live in a society of meal kits, or order through Door Dash. The days of the backyard garden, butcher your own chicken, go to beach to buy fish from the fishermen are more niche. My biggest concern is the amount of food waste that farms like this likely generate. There is no charity here to ensure it gets to needy populations before it spoils.
What percentage would go to “needy populations?” Who would choose the “needy populations?” What mode of transportation would be utilized to ensure the “needy populations” received the produce while still fresh? What would the cost be?
I think the food waste may be closer to home. Farm to grocer is less wasteful than grocer to table. Around my home I have maybe six large grocery stores within 6/8minute drive. There is no way that anyone needs that many grocery stores, selling the same stuff, nearby. One of them, which is a Sprouts, is getting squeezed out because of its smaller and more niche selection. But taking in the rest, I’m really not sure how they all stay in business because they must be fighting for Penny’s at this point. I know that all the grocers give food to charities but I am also aware that some of the food gets thrown out. Then we have the food that we, the consumers at the end of the chain throw out… it’s all just very wasteful and shameful.
@@suzannemcmaken4648 It’s getting to populations in major metropolitan areas where there are people who go hungry. Your mindset is some people in a remote jungle. People in remote jungles are probably doing better than many people in inner cities that sometimes go without food: low income, homeless.
As this is not primarily growing fruit, it's not an orchard. 'Perennial' rather than 'annual' crops are also part of the definition of orchard. So tired of media reports by well-meaning but not well-informed reporters. It's not just that the language that's a problem - this is not regenerative agriculture, which is what is needed now to reclaim deserts and lower the temperature of the 'Eden' we've been destroying not these mega greenhouses - no matter how much food they are able to temporarily produce large amounts of 'annual' produce.
The Little Ice Age was a period of wide-spread cooling from around 1300 to around 1850 CE when average global temperatures dropped by as much as 2°C (3.6°F), particularly in Europe and North America. Cooling happened in phases, with an initial drop around 1300 and an even colder climate starting around 1560 and lasting to 1850.
Yes, it was filmed in Spain, but not in Almería, but rather Madrid and Segovia (if I recall correctly). Here they were talking more about the Almería film industry
@@pbt6775 THANK YOU! I genuinely appreciate corrections. I'll remember this one. By the way, have you read the entire original novel? I thought Zhivago was a great love story, then I read the novel and saw that they gutted the entire main story, which was about Russia primarily, and in the film version replaced the guts with a cheap audience-friendly concentration on a hot chick and a tall, dark and handsome man. Then I was disappointed in the film. I still watch it, though.
Really progressive agronomy for arid climates. We desperately need something like that in the American Southwest (maybe Musk can diversify once he's done renaming Twitter or something).
question: why does the plastic need to be replaced after 4-5 years? Is it being degraded? Is that leeching into ground water and into the nearby ocean? Hmm.
They could also try and rebuild destroyed agricultural land from overuse and exploitation of groundwater. Conventional farming doesn't really work in a ever drying climate. I believ spain was originally much more green and rich in water than we see today.
All of that roof cover, and they don't do rain reclamation? I know it's an arid spot, but they average 7.9 inches a year. Build some cisterns for when it does rain. Would at least help with the cost of desalination. Also, you seein' this, California?
Almost nothing you ever buy at a market, supermarket or whatnot is ever actually ripened on the vine or tree. Harvesting them fully ripe would mean a shelf life measured in a couple of days even refrigerated. But what you were actually seeing there are table tomato varietals. These are meant for eating not cooking or processing. These specifically looked like a tomato varietal called "buey" which is popular for salads etc. There are actually several of these types of tomatoes cultivated in Spain that have a greenish hue, and are valued for their crunch and tartness. Buey and Tomato Ensalada are two which are more crunchy and tart and Kumato (brand name of the breed) is sweet and crunchy. All 3 have green hues to them.
Fruits and vegetables will rot before they arrive at the grocery store if they're allowed to ripen before picking. The only way to get vine-ripened fruits and vegetables is to grow them yourself or go to a local farm and buy them. Most of us have no idea how delicious fruits and vegetables are because we buy them from the grocery store. The most delicious blueberries I have ever eaten in my life were growing on bushes on my grandmother's property.
There Market was the UK 🇬🇧 But the UK have left the EU and dont have a free trade deal with any of the 26 EU member states, But The UK do have 96 Free Trade deal with the other 96 Countries that are not members of the EU. So we won’t be buying Spains Apples 🍏 sorry,
So awesome! They are way ahead! This de-sal and farming needs to be expanded worldwide!!
They are not way ahead , Its a Terrible idea its using 40 x more water 💦 than a Normal Apple tree in a Field …
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This statement seems made up
@@daidavies6210🫵😂 armchair farmer alert
Brilliant! We need to start doing this in all countries
Dubai
nah politics
NO.
We need to have the farm bill support small, organic farmers instead of the factory farms it supports now.
The globalists don't want small farmers to thrive
WHY ?
Why not
I notice the presenter failed to ask why the Junta de Andalusia doesn't mandate greenhouses made of glass. While initially more expensive they wouldn't need to replace the plastic every four or five years. I also noticed that they took the film crew to greenhouses that were in good condition - in reality many of them are practically falling apart and pretty much held together with duct tape.
I also noticed they were proud to tout their water comes from the ocean and is desalinated, but made no mention of what they do with the toxic salt concentrate leftover...
They recycle 87% of the plastic..
@@elisa0329 then can be pumped back at sea.... would be more interesting to know what energy source they use to desalinate
@@jawadad73 if you think that highly concentrating all the salts and debris of ocean water into a thick slurry or chunks, and dropping it somewhere in the ocean (especially in the huge quantities and regularity of industrial production) WON'T affect water quality, marine life habitat, etc, you're a fool who's never owned an aquarium before. Why do we think we can take unlimited resources, dump unlimited untreated waste, and not experience consequences?... The lie that the oceans are too big for humans to destabilize was disproven decades ago.
Because glass is insanely expensive compared to plastic. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 5x> expensive than installing the plastic.
ABOUT TIME - WAKE UP THE ARAB WORLD PUT YOUR BILLIONS TO GOOD USE AND TURN THE DESERT GREEN
IV BEEN BANGING ON ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS WELL DONE TO THE SPANISH FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN
Instead Saudi Arabia steals precious groundwater from Arizona!
looking into who has the most desalinisation plants, it's Saudi Arabia.
Amazing, the sea water desalinization is also some thing that should be done in other countries with a desert.
So many pros and cons for this type of agriculture.
Excellent for Spain❤
This greenhouse produces vegetables for ALL of Europe.
That’s the way to go
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This is so wonderful!
We have so many deserts we could be doing this in, between solar farms and gardens like this we could actually put the desert lands to great use
Very resourceful with their limited resources.
there are some good things about this. What about regenerating the ecosystem, or creating geodesic domes from glass that create ecosystems within it instead of covering it in plastic?
Wow. Great use of desert land and ocean saltwater. To grow food glorious FOOD.
I want to grow food this way to help feed our communities. And in the meantime growing it now in my own small yard. We can all just start by growing something now.
It is beautiful!
How lovely.
This should be happening in the southwest. Instead they let Saudi Arabia suck all the water for alfalfa.
Wow this is awesome. Why can't this system be replicated in all those countries that complain about lack of food when they are surrounded by the sea and desert? This goes to show that for every problem that we face, there's a solution and we must be willing to want to solve those problems with innovation. Also these tomatoes and cucumbers are so delicious and nutritious. It's my preference here in Europe.
politicians
Brilliant!
Fascinating- hope we can soon do a better job of growing foods to feed all people in United States being this resourceful.
America has no problem feeding its' own. The real issue is food waste. So much food is thrown out that it could help feed the hungry.
the US is a lot more resourceful than this.
and if you do something like this in the US, people like you will focus only on the negative environmental impact and not on the benefits.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 Yes, no need to look at the negative environmental impact, that's someone else's problem....
Awesome
Just think what amazing things America can do with agriculture if we did not allow lobbyists to control our government.
Good idea. The southwestern states and Mexico could do this. Maybe solar powered desalination plants. I'm not sure if the fertilizer is organic though.
That white plastic is so expansive that it reflects enough light away to lower the local temperature a bit. Like a reverse of the usual urban heat island effect.
How does IPM (Integrated Pest Management) deal with grasshoppers that can decimate crops quickly?
I wonder how it fared during the recent fires/floods?
It looks like there is hope for recycling and climate change ❤🎉
Using sand is nothing new to farming, I love Sand mountain tomatoes in Alabama. This farm in Spain is taking things as far as you can go and the next thought is where and when is a new location and the next innovation 😊
One of the realities we have to acknowledge, as the world becomes exponentially larger and more urbanized; you have to feed it too. We now live in a society of meal kits, or order through Door Dash. The days of the backyard garden, butcher your own chicken, go to beach to buy fish from the fishermen are more niche. My biggest concern is the amount of food waste that farms like this likely generate. There is no charity here to ensure it gets to needy populations before it spoils.
What percentage would go to “needy populations?”
Who would choose the “needy populations?”
What mode of transportation would be utilized to ensure the “needy populations” received the produce while still fresh?
What would the cost be?
I think the food waste may be closer to home. Farm to grocer is less wasteful than grocer to table. Around my home I have maybe six large grocery stores within 6/8minute drive. There is no way that anyone needs that many grocery stores, selling the same stuff, nearby. One of them, which is a Sprouts, is getting squeezed out because of its smaller and more niche selection. But taking in the rest, I’m really not sure how they all stay in business because they must be fighting for Penny’s at this point. I know that all the grocers give food to charities but I am also aware that some of the food gets thrown out. Then we have the food that we, the consumers at the end of the chain throw out… it’s all just very wasteful and shameful.
@@suzannemcmaken4648 It’s getting to populations in major metropolitan areas where there are people who go hungry. Your mindset is some people in a remote jungle. People in remote jungles are probably doing better than many people in inner cities that sometimes go without food: low income, homeless.
there shouldn't be this many people, its too much.
@@angelinimartini
Why go by car if its a 5 min drive?
As this is not primarily growing fruit, it's not an orchard. 'Perennial' rather than 'annual' crops are also part of the definition of orchard. So tired of media reports by well-meaning but not well-informed reporters. It's not just that the language that's a problem - this is not regenerative agriculture, which is what is needed now to reclaim deserts and lower the temperature of the 'Eden' we've been destroying not these mega greenhouses - no matter how much food they are able to temporarily produce large amounts of 'annual' produce.
Wait wait. When Gaddafi wanted to do this in the Sahara, western media called him a madman and a he was wasting his people's money. Hypocrisy.
I did not know that Spain is known for prodigious produce.
Spanish produce (as well as Moroccan) is very high quality and considered some of the best in the world.
Great copy from the Dutch. More farming needs to be done like this, intensive farming. Not just in Holland, but all over Europe.
Innovation from the Spanish way...No need to copy anybody...You do not have the desert and the sun as inn Spain
Off course if we zoomed in we will see everything from outerspace 🙄
I noticed that, too. That wasn't an "outer space" view.
The Little Ice Age was a period of wide-spread cooling from around 1300 to around 1850 CE when average global temperatures dropped by as much as 2°C (3.6°F), particularly in Europe and North America.
Cooling happened in phases, with an initial drop around 1300 and an even colder climate starting around 1560 and lasting to 1850.
Very controversial farming ,even in California where the desert is being farmed! Mostly having to do with water!
1:08 You forgot "Dr. Zhivago"!
Yes, it was filmed in Spain, but not in Almería, but rather Madrid and Segovia (if I recall correctly). Here they were talking more about the Almería film industry
@@pbt6775 THANK YOU! I genuinely appreciate corrections. I'll remember this one.
By the way, have you read the entire original novel? I thought Zhivago was a great love story, then I read the novel and saw that they gutted the entire main story, which was about Russia primarily, and in the film version replaced the guts with a cheap audience-friendly concentration on a hot chick and a tall, dark and handsome man. Then I was disappointed in the film.
I still watch it, though.
Really progressive agronomy for arid climates. We desperately need something like that in the American Southwest (maybe Musk can diversify once he's done renaming Twitter or something).
Why is all of our innovation put on the shoulders of one guy.
@@filteredcreativity9409 Because he's just a frontman.
Backyard 💚Haus, plz.
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question: why does the plastic need to be replaced after 4-5 years? Is it being degraded? Is that leeching into ground water and into the nearby ocean? Hmm.
UV rays degrade plastics
Back to basics says mother nature
Yeah, I like the idea, Israel is the pioneer of this invention. Well done.
They could also try and rebuild destroyed agricultural land from overuse and exploitation of groundwater. Conventional farming doesn't really work in a ever drying climate. I believ spain was originally much more green and rich in water than we see today.
Get in action fans, everybody plizzzzzz, start gardening and build up oxygen factories, if we care to save the planet, it must look this good
Economic Development (Desarrollo Economico)
Would glass last longer ? I don't see the world climate getting better in my lifetime. Why isn't this an American thing ?
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80,000 acres is 125 mile just think about that
All of that roof cover, and they don't do rain reclamation? I know it's an arid spot, but they average 7.9 inches a year. Build some cisterns for when it does rain. Would at least help with the cost of desalination. Also, you seein' this, California?
El Ejido city
As if the deserts are waste lands for us to use….ignoring the flora and fauna that are acclimated to that habitat
Geez those tomatoes looked mostly green..whats with that? Thought its best to ripen on the vine
FRIED GREEN TOMATOES😅😅😅😅
Almost nothing you ever buy at a market, supermarket or whatnot is ever actually ripened on the vine or tree.
Harvesting them fully ripe would mean a shelf life measured in a couple of days even refrigerated.
But what you were actually seeing there are table tomato varietals. These are meant for eating not cooking or processing.
These specifically looked like a tomato varietal called "buey" which is popular for salads etc.
There are actually several of these types of tomatoes cultivated in Spain that have a greenish hue, and are valued for their crunch and tartness.
Buey and Tomato Ensalada are two which are more crunchy and tart and Kumato (brand name of the breed) is sweet and crunchy. All 3 have green hues to them.
Fruits and vegetables will rot before they arrive at the grocery store if they're allowed to ripen before picking. The only way to get vine-ripened fruits and vegetables is to grow them yourself or go to a local farm and buy them. Most of us have no idea how delicious fruits and vegetables are because we buy them from the grocery store. The most delicious blueberries I have ever eaten in my life were growing on bushes on my grandmother's property.
Why caucasian so smart??????
half the picture as per usual - where does the energy come from for desalination?
From her Mum!
😜😜
Scientific Farming
Turning a dessert into waterconsuming farms should make you mouth dry
Microplastics!
There Market was the UK 🇬🇧 But the UK have left the EU and dont have a free trade deal with any of the 26 EU member states, But The UK do have 96 Free Trade deal with the other 96 Countries that are not members of the EU. So we won’t be buying Spains Apples 🍏 sorry,
Wow, this is highly biased...
It’s also a sea of plastic polluting the environment with pieces of plastic floating around everywhere
Stealing farmer families land
8 billion talking apes require a LOT of food . . . this nightmare is the result.
Learn from is happening on Maui and stop this.
Whatever
Far better than vertical waste of money farming. Flexible and can grow wide range of veggies.
Lmao this is a joke
Good natural is better than dupont.....