REVIEW: Sony WALKMAN 40th Anniversary NW-A100TPS
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- A review of the 2019 Digital Media Player from Sony.
The 40th Anniversary Walkman which comes with a retro carrying case and sports a fun cassette visualiser. It's the Walkman reimagined for a Streaming Music generation.
Available from the AFFILIATED Amazon Links below
The NW-A100 TPS 40th Anniversary model shown in this video might have sold out in some countries now - however the cheaper NW-A105 is available (that's the same model without the case, stickers and logo - whether it's got a cassette visualiser - I don't know)
AFFILIATED LINKS:
UK: amzn.to/2KILgUr (NW-A100TPS)
UK: amzn.to/2s6p0gP (NW-A105)
DE: amzn.to/2qCmtue (BOTH)
FR: amzn.to/2qyOcMy (NW-A100TPS)
FR: amzn.to/2D5LT6c (NW-A105)
ES amzn.to/2OxeV43 (NW-A100TPS)
ES: amzn.to/2XBuP1e (NW-A105)
IT amzn.to/37twyu4 (NW-A100TPS)
IT: amzn.to/2XK24Qp (NW-A105)
US: (Not yet sold here) - Japan Import A105 - amzn.to/2qy64XT
------------TECHMOAN MERCHANDISE----------
NEW OVERPRICED CHRISTMAS THEMED MERCH - ORDER NOW to ensure disappointment.
teespring.com/...
--------------SUBSCRIBE-----------------
www.youtube.com...
------------SUPPORT--------------
This channel can be supported through Patreon
/ techmoan
******Patrons usually have early access to videos******
---------Outro Music----------
Over Time - Vibe Tracks • Over Time - Vibe Track...
-----Outro Sound Effect-----
ThatSFXGuy - • Six Million Dollar man...
-----AFFILIATED LINKS/ADVERTISING NOTICE------
All links are Affiliated where possible.
When you click on links to various merchants posted here and make a purchase, this can result in me earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network & Amazon.
I am a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to AMAZON Sites (including, but not limited to Amazon US/UK/DE/ES/FR/NL/IT/CAN)
"That's what forty years of progress have brought us"
God that's depressing.
They’d have been better off just releasing a phone case.
fizzys26 - at the end of the day, a case and a simple app are really all they did release. You pay an exorbitant price for those two things and Sony tosses in a worthless old Experia nobody ever wanted for free.
I would love a cassette player - phone case hybrid.
thats what i thought too
Actually, the case was the thing that initially caught my interest in this player. It looked like a perfect fit for the player and it's unfortunate that Sony hasn't made cases like that for its other players.
or an actual cassette player...
Well, that turned out to be an incredibly unappealing product.
A "hobbled smartphone" could be marketable product. But yes, this is extremely unappealing and offends my nerdy values.
Indeed. I just think "Why?".
@@peteking4958 The whole thing could just be an An app with a book-cover case for a smart phone. A high quality mini-cassette, that digitizes whatever you play, and looks up the title/artist etc ... now that would be a thing.
@@GnuReligion Absolutely. And if it could add a background hiss in between tracks and occasionally go all wibbly to simulate a bit of tape that got mangled in the car stereo then it would add to its authenticity!
@@peteking4958 Or, it could download a flawless new FLAC of of the 40 year old hissy media just played ... hehe. It is a silly idea though. All my cheap old tapes, commercial or not, are sticking to themselves and flaking apart. Turns out vinyl is infinitely more durable.
Remember when devices used to do one thing, and do it well? I miss the days when my CD player didn't have a license agreement.
goodluck jogging with your cd player
@@theclownprinceofcrime8499 weird comment, used to jog with my Sony CD Player all the time, why wouldn't of you? Do you run like Phoebe from friends? Before some points out skipping and I say ESP and they say it wasn't good enough used to attach it to my torso and it worked fine
@@PlayThenSay Depends how good the anti-skip is in the model
@@Suedeash In my experience Sony CD players tend to have excellent anti-skip
@@rangerkasdorf4476 mine too
400 pounds... 16 gigabytes... What is this 2009?
it only for the number of songs fit in a cassette lol
Bizarre
Yeah this is just silly. My actual 2009 iPod Touch has better specs with 64 Gb onboard.
For less money in 2009 you could buy an iPod Classic 160 GB
At least it has a microSD slot for cheap expandable storage.
Seems like a typical case of paying 100 pounds for the device and 300 pounds for the brand name
Given the spec, more like £29.99 for the device (price of the cheapest 16gb unlocked smartphone).
Agreed! Such a waste of money! Not even a true Sony product...
@@cyrilleliszt5670 To be fair it "probably" has a better DAC than a £30 Smartphone, but that certainly should still be under £100.
@@cyrilleliszt5670 bet that phone has a really shit dac in it
00sony licenced to print money
The packaging seems to be worth more than the product.
naah bro you fkn blind?
@@drdj69 r/wooosh
Why didn’t they just release a real cassette player?
Because they would like to sell more than a handful.
Practically, it would sound cheap, exactly like every other modern cassette player, because there's only one manufacturer left.
@@MarioManTV Sony could make a good cassette player if they wanted.
@@ssmaria of course they could is no diff to their TVs they are all cheap made now days nothing like they used to be either.
@@bigblueocean Yes. They want ALL of the money, not just some of the money.
If only they had released a real Walkman that plays tapes.
@@thefonzkiss for a dollar? Where?
@@thefonzkiss
Forty years ago?
Sony discontinued making Walkman cassette players less than 10 years ago.
@The Fonz
Sure you can except it's been picked out of a trash bin and is destroyed and hasn't played a tape in 30 years. Stop trolling moron.
Bullshit. Are you telling me you cannot find a Walkman for sale? Maybe you will pay a premium for a collectible or sought after model, but you could find one from any make.
BUT WHY? Why the fuck would anyone want to piss around with cassettes and cassette decks these days. They were shit thirty years ago. Now obsolete and useless comes to mind. I see no niche even.
Unless you are a collector, OK. But to actually use. Day to day as a system for music, either static or on the move, it is a non starter.
In the day, even if you went all out with good chrome and decent metal tapes and a damn fine and expensive TEAC, Sony, Technics or Nakamichi, etc deck, they were still an inferior product and sound. They just seem to suffer from tape hiss and lack of headroom, even with the different Dolby systems, which created another problem in itself especially on the move or sharing stuff, as it would invariably be the wrong one, or was mislabelled or not labelled.
I most certainly do NOT miss bloody rewinding etc, either. LOL.
@@rationalmartian
Agreed. Collected, fine: typical use... There's better methods of listening to music these days.
Wish I had the foresight to digitize some of my old cassette media though (even if the quality wasn't fantastic).
They should have made a digital player of similar size to the old Walkman, using the space for a large battery, more memory, and high end amplifier
At the very least that's what they should've done
@@joshuaewalker I agree about the size. One of my issues with many digital audio players is their size, often they are too small to comfortable fit in my hand and I usually end up getting a case to both protect the player and increase its size. One of the few things I liked about my iPod Classic was its size, it fit very comfortably in my hand.
@@Solitaire001 this thing already looks about the size of an iPod classic, a Walkman is a good 4x larger at least
@@Solitaire001 I bought the Samsung 10e phone because of its size. We are not the only people who have grown tired with our gadgets become behemoths.
This gotta be a joke... Sony playing us now lol
This seems like a big waste of 400 bloody pounds.
@Tong Zou Sony themselves have a dap for £6000+ and up.... blew my mind.... i have the £150 one lol that i wanted to connect to spotify... im happy with it, if i could connect to wifi would be a bonus... but not sure if hd audio streaming is common yet...
I agree. A complete waste of money. I think I will pass on this.
Also audiophile explanations seem removed from the actual physics/biology involved and more like marketing BS to me.
@@jimjam139 it's the placebo effect, people convince themselves they need something and because they pay a lot for it they feel it improves their experience. It's really just draining people's bank accounts for profit but if people feel they need it then whatever. This seems like an utter waste of money to me.
Buy a Fiio for half the cost
Sony sells a DAP unit for $3000
Nothing about this device indicates it's worth the price. Insulting product.
@Tong Zou what exactly is so spectacular about the circuitry in this particular model?
@@HNedel These audiophile-grade audio devices often have cleaner and more transparent sound than our daily devices because their circuitry are designed to improve the signal-to-noise ratio and thus less noise. Also, the circuitry of these products are tuned so that the outcoming sound from different brands may have a different sound signature.
Also, the audio processing of their chip affects the quality of the sound. These devices are specialised to render audio and thus often provides a better soundstage and background sound. Therefore, users can enjoy "more" of and from their music.
Regarding price, this player is on the beginner's side. Sony also has DAPs that are way more expensive due to their top-class hardware and software. Those have retail prices of more than USD1000, or even more than USD3000 (WM1Z). So this one is really not that expensive for those audiophiles or enthusiast.
Think it like this way, while you may say that Michelin star restaurants are non-sense for their prices and etc., many people love to go to these restaurants because of many reasons, like to have best food, to showoff of social status, to try something new, etc. This player may not be one of those "Michelin stars", but closer than our smartphones or laptops.
@@NicolasChanCSY i was asking about the chatacteristics of this specific model, not what "audiophile" quality is and why it is better and costs more.
Only people this could be marketed to are hardcore walkmen fans
*owns apple product
Such a missed opportunity...
An iPod is half the price and is:
-thinner
-Has two cameras
-latest iOS
-more internal storage
How did they manage to make the iPod look amazing.
IPod doesnt sound like A100. Walkman sound miles better. IPod isnt even aiming for audio quality...
Surat Kittimingmongkhon The player is just an app....... you’re really saying this device will play the same digital file better than another device?
In every tech thread there’s always a person with animoji userpic telling that Apple has something better
Spice Captain Spice Captain I was looking forward to this walkman. Look at it and tell me that its not rubbish, an £80 android would give you a camera, phone and at least heaphones included. Absolutely nothing can defend this product.
You can get some really good phones for less than the price of this, some of them will have very good DAC etc if you care about that. Just use them as a digital audio player if you must.
Shame this product is so lazy
The problem is in a few years the android version inside will be too old and you won't be able to install any new apps. Even the Sony headphone app might be updated to the point you won't even find it on the play store of this device.
I have a tablet that I cannot use youtube because it says it needs to be updated and it won't update because the update doesn't show in play store. Another device can't display the play store well either and cannot install anything because the UI is buggered.
This device is a fail for me, it should be a self contained unit just like the original Walkman
They actually make one the NW-A45 and sell it for less than half the price of this. After eagerly awaiting this review I have just ordered the NW-A45.
It also won't get any security updates and could be vulnerable to exploits and attacks.
Im over here still running kitkat on my sony xperia z3 (2014). I can still install all the lastest apps and they all still get regular updates...
@@bookshelffury wait a few more years then :) My oldest tablet is an Archos 101 g9 from 2012 with 4.1 android. It wont allow me to use youtube because it says I need to update it. That is only 7 years down the line. I have a laptop from 20y ago I can still use fully... The other tablet is an Asus something which updated their music player to a cloud online version and now they dropped the online support so I have to install another music app than the default. My Samsung mobile tells me a new youtube app version is available, and yet when I go to the playstore, it does not have an update option. All these make me worried, a lot :) I hope with the Sony things will be different, I would not count on relying on online updates and access for the long term though
I hardly use apps anyway to be honest. I'm replying to this comment on my phone thru the Firefox web browser. I hate the youtube app, it's so useless, so i watch youtube vids thru the web browser as well. And the sony walkman music app i use is original to this phone, never updated it cause it just works. Can't think of much else i use besides Google apps like Gmail, Maps, and Drive. I should be alright. Andriod kitkat rocks. 5 years and no slow downs, no lock ups, havnt had to restore it, it just works. Best phone ive ever had. Soooooo much better than my Samsung s4 which after a year got so slow and locked up all the time and what a pos.
I have a 20 year anniversay sony wm-ex20 walkman. That thing looks stunning, all made from stainless steel with a mirror finish. Works fine 20 years later. Now that's a walkman!
It was Aiwa that designed and built the original "Walkman" in 1978-79. (Aiwa was partly owned by Sony at the time, but still a totally different and separate company with their own research and product development.)
Hey Sony, where's my $300 pager? It's 2019 I need a $300 MP3 player AND a $300 pager.
300 dollar mp3 player is actually budget entries rightnow, try searching what a DAP is before commenting.
@@mejiolo Have you seen how good pagers are these days. A DAP is a digital audio player, did you mean DAC?
Wow I'm actually disappointed. I was going to get one of these. I'll stick with my phone. Great video, thanks for sharing.
This is just like when they turned the "Pressman" portable pocket recorder into the Walkman. It's just an upgrade and not an actual new product like it should have been. Way to go Sony.
Just gave it a try. I compared my Wh-h910n with LDAC Bluetooth and wired through the output socket, the A100 is really enjoyable. Next I plugged in my closed-back Focal Listen Pro (more geared towards studio mixing I’m told, but appart form my reddish and black color, I bet the drivers are exactly the same). The Sony sounded pretty much the same with or without the wire (which tends to prove LDAC is really nice in this DAP price range - and that the built-in headphone DAC isn’t bad at all, just as the internal amplifier isn’t too distorted). The Bass is very present (no boost, no eq, no dsp tricks), details (transients, attacks) are Ok. On the Listen Pro, the bass is thinner, but the details are much clearer, as is the stereo imaging. Initially I enjoyed the Sony a lot more, but I realized it might get fatiguing over long periods. The Focal « listen » brand name is correctly describing what it is for. I think I’m going to use the Sony when I multitask around and want a good vibe, but plug-in the Focal when I want to rest and do just that : listen. The Wh-h1000Xm3 and 4 have bigger drivers I’m told, but the 910n has already got Bass-a-plenty, and as an iOS device user, have no need to pay for APT-X codecs : SBC, AAC and LDAC is all I need.
So essentially Sony is selling an app for 400 pounds...
Oh the things you can sell to an "audiophile".
@Tong Zou well, you can expect those gullible people to buy anything.
With sim card option and camera this will be the perfect small Smartphone! I hope to see some day Walkman phone this size.
Near the end, our guy was a bit irritated at that point and seemed to become a bit upset but managed to keep his cool as he was finishing the review of the device. I felt a sigh of relief when he said his staple iconic phrase: "As always, That's it for the moment, thanks for watching". I was feeling anxious, we can all be glad this was over. Sony really dropped the ball here with what worthless device. Techmoan, send that device back from where it came from. Demand your money back. Its not worth your time to fiddle with it nor anyone else, i would have preferred a mechanical retro re-release of the Walkman also.
Yup, good analysis and I agree completely. Sony is trying to cash in on nostalgia just to sell another boring, bland digital device. Disgraceful.
This is a great example of dropping the ball on a really cool idea. If Sony had just used their own custom OS instead of Android that little thing would probably get twice the battery life and 10x the standby time. And for that price a nice set of wired headphones definitely should've been included.
I guess it's ok for what it is. I agree with a lot of points you made about it too.
Samsung did something like this several years ago too. I think it was called Samsung Play. It was basically whatever phone was current at the time, maybe a Galaxy S2 or S3, but without the phone part. It's main function was an MP3 player that ran on Android V.Something, and had access to the Google Play Store to install and run apps. I got one for my son when he was maybe 8-10 years old, and he liked it. We used it to keep in touch with one of the messaging apps because he lived with his mother about 30 miles away. We were talking about it just a couple days ago, and one of the things he remembered about it was that it had "phone" language in the settings, like they used the exact software that would have been on one of their phones, but the just left the phone app and radio out. Like at the end of the main setting page, instead of saying "about device" or "about player", it actually said "about phone". Pressing "about phone" brought up the info page, and a couple lines down it actually had a line for the phone number, which was either empty or was dashed out, but there was still a line that said "phone number".
I think this might appeal to a very small segment, probably young children that don't need a phone yet but still know more about them than we do lol. I think younger kids might see the cassette animation through the window and have that whole thing about "my Dad's Walkman has a window to see those things spinning". For a couple weeks, then it lands somewhere and gets completely forgotten about until five years after Jr moved out and dad converts that bedroom into his man cave or toy room or whatever you want to call it. Then it turns up in the closet, on the top shelf, way in the back, stuffed into one of the corners.
My Mother gave me her old WM-FS397, still works and it sounds great!!
No GPS but at least it has Google Maps preinstalled...
they produced this crap just to point out the genius of the 1979 model
It's just a limited version of A100. Walkman has changed it's market and focus more on sound quality not portability anymore. You would be surprise that this one is actaully a budget level im the market.
This walkman is a limited edition. It's in a premium price tag because it holds special meaning to walkman brand itself. Sony fans and specially walkman fans will be the ones actually buying this device more for collection purpose rather than daily use.
If you think it's overpriced and unnecessary, you can always get the regular and more practical version with 32GB on board with bundle earphones
I was excited about this Walkman, having owned a few earlier Sony models plus a Discman and then a couple of MD players from Sony. However Im starting to see that this is just too expensive for what it offers and it looks like all the sound processing settings will get locked out if you are using bluetooth headphones. Im still loving the idea of the cassette tape screensaver but and its a big BUT...... There's an app for iPhone owners that I have tried that does exactly that and even lets you spool forward and backward through your tracks! It will only play music downloaded to your device but it is very nice and retro. Its called "Delitape - Deluxe Cassette Player" for those still on the fence about Sony's offering.
It's quite a cool piece of technology and I'm really happy Sony put's effort into creating Hi-Res Audio devices. Although pricey it's the one of the few options to go for if you want Hi-Res Audio with the format support in a compact form factor with 3,5mm audio and USB-C. The SoC used is coming from Freescale/NXP type i.MX 8M Mini Quad, or MIMX8MM6DVTLZAA CPU which runs at 1.8GHZ and it is unclear whether or not it will get an update to Android 10. That being said, it's hopefull that OPUS, Ogg Vorbis and other formats are hardware accelerated as well as they can eat quite a lot of battery when software decoded.
I found super*reviews technique of screen pinning the music app to be a life saver on this device. It bypasses the need to log into the device but only gives access to the music player. You can then log into the device if needed by choice. I actually think its a good device just flawed with an OS system it didn't really need.
@Techmoan :
12:11 "Just enjoy the music, rather than worrying about it." Spoken like a real legend. I'm with you on that 100 %, Mr. Techmoan. A really poor recording, would be more disastrous than just a low bitrate/high compression.
On another note, can you do a review on digital media/Mp3 players worthwhile and available on the market right now? I was surprised to see that Sony still had something in that category on offer, but they have an anniversary, so that's at least part of the reason for that.
But if there are similar products of good quality out there still, I would love to see you do a breakdown of which is the best of them. 👍😊
The cheaper one DOES have the same cassette UI! But you don't get the case... Am currently watching this video and the Activo CT-10 video on repeat, I'm stuck in a feedback loop trying to decide which one to get. BTW I LOVE that you've got Jurassic 5 tracks on both your DAPS! Impeccable taste sir.
I was severely injured in a skiing accident, and I'm confined to a wheelchair.
Am I allowed to own this product?
Maybe in 10 more years they'll make a walkman that's actaully a walkman
That 40th Anniversary logo is hideous, apart from anything else.
So are your armpits
As I watched this I went from "waste of time" to "that's actually really nice" and back again several times. The only app that would matter to me would be Spotify, which I'm sure works fine, but would it be better than an S10+ for that? No, probably not. Perhaps a cute Walkman screen on the 'phone would be almost as attractive.
See your s10+ may be able to take good pictures and have a good screen and what not, but that doesn't mean it will sound the same as this Walkman. Your phone has a low quality dac and amp that won't sound as good as a device that actually took the time to put good components in there. There is a reason DAPs like this exist and that's because they will sound considerably better and be louder than any smartphone. Mind you not everyone cares about sound quality and be fine with the cheap earbuds that were included with the phone or some $10 skullcandies. However, for those that do enjoy good quality sound a device like this is actually worthwhile. Especially since it runs android which means you can get streaming apps to run on it and with services like Tidal you can get master quality audio streams. The only smartphone manufacture that is actually putting in decent dac and amp is LG and those phones aren't that popular. So chances are you like most people are fine with mediocre sound and that's fine, to each their own.
@@Fusiongearz I like decent sound which is why I use good quality Sennheiser HD25SP wired headphones on my S10+. This player can't stream away from wi-fi which really limits it.
@@video99couk A lot of services have options for offline streaming so I doubt that is really much of a problem.
400 pounds! My goodness that was a shock! and they didn’t even include the damn headphones😳 I thought your comments were very relevant, interesting video as always...
The hard drive on my iPod classic is beginning to corrupt again. In a couple of hours I will probably head to a second hand shop and buy a replacement for 80/90 quid. Anything as good on the market nowadays instead though?
I just want a device to put 20-30000 songs on with decent battery life. Oh, and I like the genius mixes.
:)
Thank you for upliading you have given me an idea good or not I'm not sure but I'm going to get an old Walkman and make it in to a case for my ipod love your channel yours alan
I own the NW-A105, which is the same player without the Anniversary branding. If you switch off the wifi and Bluetooth the battery is not so bad, but it is still poor compared to smartphones and older Personal Media Players such as iPods and older solid state memory Sony Walkman's.
The memory capacity is very limited because the 16gb fills up quickly with a handful of apps and software updates. I think the best of these players was the NW-A107 which has 64gb onboard storage which gives one ample space for apps and software updates. The NW-A100 and NW-A105 offer pathetic storage. I have only three apps installed: Netflix, Apple Music, and VLC player and that is it. All my media is on a memory card and I still get "low storage space" messages. I think anyone considering buying this player, get the NW-A107 because it is the best of the bunch.
The Walkman case that comes with the NW-A100 is of a really poor quality. I mean, it is a soft material and it is not at all durable at all. It won't withstand much wear and tear. I have seen one in real life and the person who has it has treated it with care, yet still the top/bottom edges on the edge folds have still frayed. The material stretches too and the door starts to droop. My advice would be to get a different case for day to day use and retain the original for those occasions when feelings of nostalgia are reaching fever pitch.
With wi fi and Bluetooth on, the device drains pretty fast. I have found it drains around 30% per hour when in use. If you leave wi fi and Bluetooth on, even in idle mode the battery drains fast - even with no apps open, and brightness turned right down. Most people would probably like to use music streaming apps and wireless headsets so I think making such a small A droid device was misguided because a tiny battery cannot keep it running for long, especially when both Bluetooth and wi fi are on.
Other than that, the player is fun to use. The sound is great and personally I like the small size. It is nice and compact. That is why it is a shame that the battery life is poor. Although some people have complained it should not have been an Android device, I disagree because you can use music streaming apps which expands your music library.
The Walkman all is pretty cool and allows you to switch on ClearAudio which just needs up the sound in a good way.
The Walkman cassette animation looks pretty cool, and the screen is lovely to look at.
Although the Walkman is an app on this device, people need to remember that for the last several years Sony Walkman's have evolved to become personal media players which means they give users additional features such as video and the internet because typically people consume media in many different ways. While it is very unlikely anyone will watch videos on such a small screen, things like TH-cam work well, and people with a TH-cam Premium subscription probably find that a worthwhile thing.
One tip I have for people to save battery life on this player when using music streaming apps is to download music you intend to listen to. Also, refrain from using wireless headsets when the unit is unplugged because that will reduce the battery. Although very few people would use Netflix on this, if anyone does, it is better to download stuff to the device because then you are not using the wi fi to stream. If you plug this in, you can use the wi fi and Bluetooth because the battery won't drain while it is being charged. The unit is not ideal but it is unique and I do like it. Next time around, I hope Sony find a way to make the battery last longer.
Yeah the LG V series would be a better bang for the buck
excited for the new NW-A300!!!
I've always wanted to not be able to talk or text on my Android
Well overpriced my Sony phone has most of those up scaling settings for only £200 there is also a app on the play store that has the cassette playing that also displays artist name and song
The thing Im interested the most in: Where/how to get the walkman app by itself?
not even a balanced out for that price?
It’s interesting kind of like that new Razr phone though. Nostalgic and overpriced.
Well I'll stick with the Casse-O-Player. Dozens of cassete models to choose from. Great animations and even with reels changing diameter as it plays the song. Not whole playlist unfortunately and it's only free version with Ad bar at the top but other than that it's fantastic app. Including needle or LED VU meters ;-)
I agree wholeheartedly that using a full version of android was a huge misstep
The price on this thing is just simply offensive
@Tong Zou You keep posting THE SAME COMMENT. It still does not make this thing worth the money.
Tong Zou that doesn’t make this or anything else you’re talking about sound any less ridiculous. If anything, it sounds worse.
@@Schpoople
And yet no one agreed with your comment...
I am a bit confused by that.
VariantAEC I’m a bit confused myself. My comment that you say no one agreed with has over 150 likes lol
@@Schpoople
When I wrote that no one had agreed with you... Notice that I posted my comment a week ago.
Time confuses you I guess?
It’s not a cassette player... what a disappointment.
Even if it did it would be garbage because nobody makes good mechanisms for cassette. Why would you even expect it to though?
Yeah, I did get a little rush of hope that they'd actually made a real cassette Walkman. Silly, because this is 2019 and that sort of thing just isn't viable economically any more. But in a way, they'd probably shift more units with even a half-decent tape machine than this thing. Tape is making a bit of a comeback and it would have far more novelty value. Still not for 400 bloody quid though! Unless it was built like the old Pro Walkmans (even less likely, of course!)
I get the nostalgia as I grew on tapes and the Walkman also. But why would you want an actual new tape Walkman in 2019? You realize how much better we have it for music options these days, right? If you like collecting old tech, find an og Walkman
Jørn Birkeland because they think it's cool. I completely understand retro. I own a bunch of vintage audio equipment and turntables but still don't want to carry around a crappy Walkman built on crappy 2019 tape components when I can just carry my phone listening to every song in history streaming from the cloud
I think a 40th anniversary walkman could have been economically viable. There is enough people out there that grew up with the walkman and would buy a premium for the experience. Make it 200 USD or so, which should be enough to make a decent mechanism, pack in two new tapes, and I'll bet all the hipsters and nostalgic people would be all over it. The electronics are nowadays so small and cheap, that the Walkman could have recording functionality, line in and out, as well as all electronic buttons and controls. And Sony is big enough that they could have made a few 100,000 of those.
Sony killed the legacy of Walkman a while ago. They even renamed their Walkman app into “Music” for their smartphones a couple of years ago.
Did you ever figure that they changed the app name to preserve the Walkman legacy?
They don't make this kind of hardware anymore why is that considered a problem now?
Who uses cassettes anymore. Most people I know who really want to preserve their old content digitized their own cassettes long ago. The problem is cassettes aren't really a great format. CD is far better in a lot of ways the media itself is smaller, waterproof stores more higher quality audio content. The player hardware itself is larger, but typically weighs less, it works faster and as a bonus it's still user friendly, light on battery consumption and new devices don't skip or damage discs when tossed around a little.
Of course digital media is where this player sits and most devices these days sound excellent even non-Walkman enabled devices far outside of Sony's dominion.
That wasn't always true and even when I first purchased my Samsung Galaxy S8 I noted that it had terrible audio quality... That changed and for the better as it should've seeing as how the equipment on board is superior to my previous phones innards in nearly every imaginable way.
The phone I upgraded from was a Sony Xperia Z3 and that was an awesome phone but it had heating issues little OS support and Sony stopped selling their phones through carriers which is why I picked up the Samsung Galaxy S8 instead of an Xperia Z5 Premium.
The Galaxy S8 is a powerful device and thanks to continued support the device received proper sound fixes that brought it up to par with previous digital Walkman equipment I own.
Everything sounds good these days this particular Walkman and most digital Walkman's cater to a niche market. I honestly can't say anything about the quality of these newer devices because I've not picked up a premium Walkman since the X1060 back in 2009. Back then that device also cost $400 USD and it was one of the first to include DNC built into the device itself and it came with the headsets which is why I picked it up. It was glorious and truth be told I wish Samsung had its own integrated DNC feature on smartphones or that other manufacturers jumped on that train Sony's Xperia line of phone's combined all of Sony's best into a phone and the Z3 still has DNC over any new devices including some of Sony's own newer devices and was an incredibly forward looking portable... but I digress.
This device is a luxury and like all luxuries it isn't necessary. It has a place for those who do buy it but personally I agree with most people here. Sell a phone case or animated wallpaper skins they'd probably make more money and appeal to a wider range of Walkman fans.
They changed walkman app from xperia devices to reserve the walkman branding only for proprietary walkman devices. They even removed SenseMe and only left it in walkmans
That's more like preserving the life of walkman devices. Who would buy it if smartphone has it all
go rest in peace . what you doing here?
Still the best app on the market
VariantAEC Tape still has a place in the music industry, it's extremely cheap to produce music on them and can even improve the sound depending on what is being recorded.
Metal tape in a tape deck made for metal tapes will sound just as good if not better than CD
This device was designed for time travelers who are going to visit the 80s.
all 4 of them
They didn’t have USB or WiFi in the 80’s so prepare for a short trip.
eye bee-sea And it’s not even a “real Walkman”!
Four hundred freakin' pounds. There's a lot of suckers out there.
Aye. Would pay extra for removal of the anniversary logo. And for that kind of money I would expect a very decent portable DAC. But instead it's a portable storage device. With a free OS.
Just a cheap phone without a sim card or camera. And a weak headphone amp. And no headphones. For $600 in Australia which is quite a discount over the UK price. I guess the animation and case is worth $500...
Just bought one of the new generation of chinese smartphones (umidigi A5 Pro) - edge to edge display, tiny notch, headphone jack, android pie, all for the measly sum of £100... £400 is just insanity for this! Budget smartphones have got crazy good in the last few years.
I reckon they could have made more money in just bringing us a modern cassette walkman. That's what everyone really wants anyway. Niche yes but there is nothing else out there.
Yep, if you want a good DAP save some money and get a Fiio. I wouldn't spend £100> more for a cassette animation and low headphone volume output
and for only 16 GB and NO HEADPHONES ON THE BOX!?
Update: Also, the design *is not there* no fancy materials, nothing. Nokia did their throwback cellphones, I know they might not have a complex OS like Android, but at least they actually look nice, they are useful secondary phones, and they are affordable.
Customers: Hope this 40th Anniversary cassette player will be a fitting celebration of the world's best loved personal music device!
Sony: No.
well said! :/
xactly
Slightly depressing that this is the current state of the Walkman
It's still a music player and it does more than what the original Walkman could ever dream of. The only category the old Walkman has the new one beat is in battery, to be honest. Remember that we're talking 2019 - not 1989 or something.
@@Maring0418 I completely agree that it is functionality superior to the original Walkman, or any other Walkman for that matter. My issue is that this isn't really a Walkman anymore. It's more of an almost phone. The average phone is good enough to do most of what it can, so this Walkman ends up solving a problem very few people have. Audiophiles can get better hardware for less money, and average people like me are fine with what they have.
That said, I still use a minidisc Walkman on a semi regular basis, so there's definitely some bias on my end.
@@Maring0418 >It's a music player
It's a phone with a bunch of shit removed.
@@heyjoeway so? Phones are music players already. DAP:s are a extremely niche market but this DAP does more than most other DAP:s while still not being a mobile phone.
@@Maring0418 Then why the fuck should I buy a DAP that carries all the hassles of phones with no benefits?
This feels like a massive scam to me.
Why?
bruh normies trying to act smart xD y don't u all go bak 2 n ride dat chad dik LOL XDXDXD
its because you don't understand what it's for (the base version, not this TPS gimmick version)
@Cody Martell not wut ur mum siade LOL
@Cody Martell yeh n i enyoy erey bit of dem bones xD
How disappointing that it's not a real cassette player.
@Monty Python the Flying Circus
It's about iconic history, and a good cassette mechanism can sound REALLY good, and you don't need mobile data to have it work!
@Monty Python the Flying Circus
Actually some current bands ONLY release their albums on compact cassette today. There are at least TWO factories in China that produce lower quality mechanisms. It wouldn't cost too much to retool some of these factory line processes to make a higher quality unit. Actually I believe that quite a bit of the old tooling for these HQ mechanism ARE in storage around the world from Sony, Nakamichi, Pioneer, Teac, Panasonic, and others! Get it out of storage and set it up.
When they released the 40th anniversary video everyone in the cassette community was talking about a new Walkman coming out.
But when I saw this I was really disappointed
go to ebay and buy one. this is for collectors
drdj69
The point is that the ones you get off ebay are old and aren't reliable devices for quality play of our cassettes.
Wait no Memory Stick Duo?
Damn Sony, you've changed.
PSP ol'day
Maybe it does M2. You can have MicroSD and M2 support in the same slot.
the same here
Can i transfer my ATRAC music via SonicStage or OpenMP Jukebox? Wait no ATRAC support?
I'll say one nice thing: the changing of cassette tape types based on the codec is actually pretty cool, and I'd love to see all the different tape types that go with their corresponding codecs
Everything else is a travesty
The longer this video goes on, the less desirable this device feels. Sony should make a good old fashioned stand alone Walkman.
Now that’s what I call a rip-off.
Yeah, it's like paying for the idea of using an old phone as a dedicated music player.
Y'know whats sad? The iPod Touch has more of a reason to be purchased than this thing does.
...also, judging by the fact your icon is Gudako, hope you got Santa Jalter in time.
Yes, but pay *money* for an iPod? I found a perfectly good iPhone 4 down at the recyclers, discarded, and I got a dock for it, and downloaded Foobar2000 and there you go! It is the main media source for my home stereo (all media ripped to NAS). $0 can’t be beat.
@@schwagz124 This thing supports High Resolution Audio, which the iPod Touch does not. That gives people a reason (besides nostalgia) to choose a 40th Anniversary Walkman over an iPod Touch.
@@pentagen I was talking more for the general consumer who might see this. But you do have a point... Only thing that might turn people away from this though is the fact that there are other devices that support Hi-Res Audio and are cheaper than this device.
If the headphones were included, they couldn't charge you another $110/£85 for them.
People who would buy this already have nice headphones or IEMs so nbd
Way overpriced for a smartphone without the phone... what a missed opportunity
missed opportunity for what, exactly?
What are you talkin about it has a headphone
Even a new Sony Xperia cost less than this and it has the Walkman app too.
@@ItsPyrus Making something similar to the Ipod Touch but for Android, if it was cheaper it would be an interesting product. Products like this are what parents with kids who aren't old enough to get a smartphone but might want something to play games on and use the internet with are looking for.
@@ItsPyrus it's a £400 for a limited edition 16gb Android-powered walkman with poor amp & doesn't even have earphone/headphone included. surely there's something that can still be added considering the cost, can't it?
That’s a lot of money for a device which simply displays a digital rotating tape
Dreadful. After 40 years of serious hardware, the give us an app- without headphones. Anyone else tired of the Apps and required permissions and constant data collection of these devices?
But the app needs the permission to access your music in order to play it!
not to mention how manufacturers can at a stroke make items obsolete on a whim these days by simply pulling support, so its not even a collectable, ie in 2 yrs time might not be supported and useless whereas a 40yr old walkman can still play a tape
There's certainly a hungry industry that's not tired of it at all.
Yes, I'm loathing the day that I have to buy a car from this current era of consumer data collection. It has certainly made me more careful about purchasing decisions.
bosstown dynamics, but thats not its full functionality is it bud? tape player still has it's full function and purpose :)
14:36
> Google Maps preinstalled
> doesn't have GPS.
nice
@M'asuda the Liar Not really, being able to track location via IP address is something one has been able to do since at least the 56k dial-up internet days.
To be fair Maps is still very useful for getting information even if you don't use it for actual navigation.
I'm a huge Sony fan boy
But this is expensive and pointless
An over priced MP3 player
no you are not a fan boi. and no there are much more expensive mp3 players from sony which cost 4 times the price of this. and the point is its for collectors who appreciate it.
If you are a Sony fan than it would make more sense to buy the Sony A105 Walkman. It's $50.00 cheaper and doesn't come with the useless case to make it look like a replica of the original 1979 Cassette Walkman. It also comes with hi res noise cancelling headphones.
@@drdj69 who are you to decide who's a fan or not?
Nice haiku
If it's not an actual cassette player, why not just release a commemorative Walkman mug or T shirt, or simply sell a Walkman Music Player app on the Playstore?
Because joggers need a player with better sound and physical buttons.
@@humansrants1694 And this have only the physical buttons. It isn't better player
*doesn't actually play cassettes.
Y'know honestly an android device with a good cassette player in it might be an amazing product for transferring stuff from tape to digital that could probably become pretty popular.
I have an A45 model walkman from a few years back. No android! No gimmicks! Just great sound and 40 hours playtime. Perfect for unplugging from the net and getting lost in intentional listening. Wish Sony would have stayed with that. Love having physical buttons that you can feel while it is still in a jacket pocket.
guaranteed - you will be the only reviewer who can drop the actual 1979 Walkman along with the various Anniversary editions along the way. The benefit of your burgeoning hardware library!
Definitely not... 😉
It's official: Sony has lost the plot. Thanks for the warning.
They've lost the plot back in the mid-2000s, with spyware-infested CD releases. The Walkman had been reduced to an Android application years ago, after the endless watering down of the brand through naming myriad feature phones after it. The app ended up with a very original name, “Music”. An overpriced, outdated, half-skinned smartphone-minus-the-phone with a horrendously poor battery life isn't the easiest product to pitch, either to the audiophile niche or to the wider market, and it certainly isn't what the Walkman enthusiasts deserve.
Overpriced AF. A decent headphone should've been included at least.
Madson Freitas to be fair, anyone who would spend this much on a “Walkman” will have and will want to use better headphone than what they could have included
You only buy this to play HD music so one would use high end headphones like those costing over £70 .
I wonder what the "pounds" would look like in US funds when the original Walkman's were being sold.
I'm glad I watched this because I was seriously considering getting this because nostalgia but after this review I reconsidered. Thank you for saving me a lot of money.
16GB in 2019?! Great, I'll start converting all my Flac files to 64kps MP3's.
@@_to_dream_or_not_to_dream It should support AAC though which is very efficient...
But then why would somebody not support the predominant free audio format? That's just stupid. Sure it's not a mistake in specification where they just forgot to list it? Do they also not support FLAC in OGG container or do they support that but not Vorbis in OGG container? What about the new format by the same Xiph group, OPUS?
ToDreamOrNotToDream surely you could download a 3rd party app to play ogg? This thing is still indefensible though.
@@AnonymousUser77254 Of course you can, but then you don't have a USP pretty much, you just get any cheap Android device and it'll be good.
I think even the first iPod I got (white with the scroll wheel back in whenever) had 20GB!
I don't see an issue with having just 16GB of internal memory since the player also has a MicroSD slot. In fact, for simplicity I'd rather the player have a small amount of internal memory for just the player's use (internal data management) with all of the audio files and other user data (such as playlists) stored on the SD card. My experience with my Walkman players (I have two that use memory cards) is that the internal memory and the SD memory card they are treated as separate storage locations (the player does integrate them when you are using the player). Due to this, you can't have a playlist that contains files in both locations. Due to this, I think it would easier to just use a memory card to store your music.
Person who designed this pice of .... should be fired
Maybe they did. After the month it took to create this product.
This is for people that don’t know where to spend money on
It should be the Apple's logo
Or who have a very specific set of hobbies, like Mr. Techmoan :P
Lol
Code kamminga you sound like you want one but dont got money for it
In other words this is for people who have more money then sense :( I would sell it and give all the money to charity !
When you said “ATRAC”, it sounded like “8-Track”. 😆
Oh, I really thought he said 8-track. Which is funny that a Sony device doesn't even support their own audio standard.
same here
So the only reason to buy it "Oh wow a cassette animation so awesome!" I think I'll pass on this one.
Don't forget those stickers....
*400 Pounds* and no charger or headphones included... just incredible.
Heh - Apple sells monitor stand Pro (o ho ho ho ho) for $1000
@@pielichiewicz So if Apple sell overprice product does that mean every company should sell overprice product?
@@taraemsavana6729 Why this device is overpriced? Perhaps this device is so good in terms of music quality that price suits its performance.
I just tried to say that price of this walkman (I know some similar devices that have higher price) is nothing comparing to ridiculously priced Apple Pro monitor stand, which have to be bundled with monitor for free and which can be substituted by much cheaper VESA wall mount without any negative effect to monitor's picture quality.
@@pielichiewicz
Because 400 pounds for something nobody really needs is insane. Apple (due to their demented fanbase) and providers of luxury goods (where the prime reason to pay a lot is to pay a lot to feel good, which is as irrational as people get) get away with this, but Sony isn't. That is as long as they don't want to position themselves in that niche (which would loose them most of their existing customers).
While Sony is certainly not being known for being cost efficient, this will contribute to their general view as a "provider of far overpriced" products. There is a fair distinction between being seen as "high quality provider" and "overpriced provider". From an economic point of view is this a clear step towards brand suicide.
@@pielichiewicz I'd say it's the lack of charger (arguably passable to be honest), headphones (for nostalgia value), and the ROM it uses
Definitely could've gone with custom Walkman ROM for the special edition to make it way more Walkman looking instead of a stock Android ROM it has
Four hundred pounds for a phone...that doesn't make calls. Really Sony?
If you really wanted to make calls on this you would have to download one of those apps that allows you to make phone calls over Wi-Fi also he didn't mention it having any speakers in it so you would have to have headphones with a microphone I'm assuming it would be able to get audio from your microphone
Think different... wait, wrong company.
it has a very nice dac and amp that is WAY better than any phone - dont believe everything you see on youtube. It is for people who loves good sound... The only phone that can match this is an LG with QUAD dac.
The funny thing is that at the start of the century ago a mobile phone was a fraction of the cost of an MP3 Player. Real prices from the 2003 Argos catalogue Nokia 3310 Mobile phone £80. Rio Riot 20GB MP3 player £330. Since the phone is obviously the cheap bit why do we call them phones ? :-)
@@MrDuncl Oh, yeah. Travel through time and Describe what you can do with a modern 'phone' to someone who lives in 1992. They will not call it a phone.
for one, A phone has big numbered buttons and a plastic hook you talk into. And it's wired into the wall, maybe a car. A phone is also not an encyclopedia... nor a photo camera, photo album, camcorder, boom-box, mirror, calculator, _"Hey where's your address book?", "wha- Wait!? You control this by touching the screen? You're pulling my leg."_
I was shocked that I had totally missed on this, but after watching this vid I was relieved...
Love the cassette animation (and changing types depending on quality). They can keep the rest though! This could easily just have been an app
If Sony had any balls they would bring out a walkman that runs cassette tapes!
I honestly think people would have bought that.
People might even have bought a Sony smartphone built around an actual cassette player. Especially if they'd stylized it like the original Walkman.
@@FroggyMosh that is a horrible idea.
They might if cassette sales keep going up
@@smug_slime It's a bit niche. But slapping an android phone onto a cassette player is what they tried to emulate with this product. Except this is not even a phone. It's a stylized 400 GBP 3 inch tablet-thing.
They tried to sell you a 400 pound _media player skin._
Edit: And they try to up-sell you extra on a 115 GBP blue-tooth headset.
They still sell cd player, casette player, radio combo's... So they know there's still a small market. Honestly this kubd of no-phone-phone seems almost more niche than a tape playing walkman.
This is probably the worst piece of hardware released this year
You could literally get an iBasso DAP with balanced output for the same price as this. No idea what Sony was thinking, especially since they have some high-end DAPs too. All they needed to do was downgrade the specs on them a little to bring the price down from outrageous to somewhat affordable, and they would have been sorted. I had an iPod Touch in 2010 with basically the same functionality and specs, and it was cheaper than this too...
Google stadia haha
Stadia: Move aside!
All manufacturers should be fined a huge sum for products with p!ss-poor battery life or limited lifespan.
Total waste of money and future landfill waste product.
Yuck! Kind of a slap in the face of a Walkman! Give me even the oldest Walkman over this garbage! Multiple hundreds of dollars, chained to Google, etc. Nah! Thanks for the review though!
It's sad to see how far Sony have fallen if they are kicking stuff like this out.
@Graeme Hill
BINGO...this is an EMBARRASSING product. I'd be ashamed of myself for
putting this on the market. It MOCKS customers that wanted a real anniversary walkman cassette player.
@@watershed44
So if they released a £400 40 year old Walkman cassette player for the anniversary that would be fine?
@VariantAEC
Yes, as long as it is produced EXACTLY as the original including the metal case and better quality head mechanism, and made in Japan, since the price needs to be inflation adjusted I'd say 450-500$/USD is about correct. I'd buy one in a heartbeat, same goes for higher quality home cassette decks. There is a growing market again and someone should fill it, they'd make money on it.
I mean sony has the playstation that's their money cow
@@Kineticwizzy yes and when the PlayStation classic got released initially look at what that lead to.
The whole fun to me is using tape, so that means a solid NO for this product.
If that was the point why did you watch this review?
Did you not know Sony discontinued making cassette players? That was newsworthy stuff apparently because that literally made global headlines a few years ago now.
@@VariantAEC "If that was the point why did you watch this review?" Since when does having an idea about a product stop me from seeing a review about it? I said fun, no point, because I use digital media and I don't complain that they can't play a tape. Why did I watch? because I wanted to know what it was, since the product is advertised as a Walkman, and I thought it might be a new cassette player. You express yourself very badly and assume too much for people. Not everyone has the same view and opinion about everything, and I am proof of that. Have a good time.
So it doesn’t play Cassettes? No deal.
The 'Walkman' line has had digital products since 1999!
Ipodman. Futuristic.
@@AfferbeckBeats yeah, it's the 40th anniversary model and made to look like the original.
I'm not saying your point is invalid, merely that it is not a point at all.
@@AfferbeckBeats The reason the Walkman brand lost all relevance in the digital realm is that the Walkman DAPs of the time and well into 2000s only played ATRAC files. I eyed them back then. They looked great and seemed super well made. But i didn't want to have to re-rip all my library and rely on God knows how good or terrible software. So i got Creative and Sansa players from that era on, and had Rio and Thomson ones before.
Yet another device for Google to track your every move and habit on...
"Flippin'"
**turn to Side B*
" 'eck!"
as a fan of retro stuff and music this had zero attraction to me... i own creative mp3 players with awesome retro look and sound quality without the hassle.
So Sony have created a slightly modified "Sony Music Centre" app, and included tape animations >>inspired
Gah. No. This is just...Bad. 400 notes? I mean, you said it all. Even if it was 200, it would still be lame. The only cool thing is the tape animation (where they couldn't even be bothered to show the tape spool changing for track position). All the things you could get for 400 quid. You can nearly get an iPhone 8 for that.
Anyway, an entertaining and thorough review as always, thanks.
1. Ipod touch seems much better.
2. What's the point? You could just buy a cheap smartphone and them install the sony music app there. If not that. There are many more better music apps.
@@kruzerblade4740 Or you could buy the smartphone and _not_ install the Sony app ;)
Citizen of Nowhere anyway
First of all, dear Techmoan, thanks for sharing this video. Very well presented (as usual) and informative. But essentialy, what I felt after watching - what a nice, lovely, well-made and utterly expensive vinyl case! Have no other words to describe how generic and ordinary feels and looks this device (without the case). And I couldn“t agree more with many other users talking about "missed opportunity", "garbage" and "original cassette player". What a heck is with Sony guys anyway? Cassettes are currently facing a great comeback, there are more and more brand new albums (and these are not limited to hipster and indie sounds anymore, but also mainstream and other genres are rising and having a new and different life on good old cheap medium, which original walkman made so popular in golden days!).... People want cassettes again, cassete is sturdy and relible, and then, obviously, they want to buy a gear to listen to tapes.... what happens is that (not that) cheap, low quality chinese devices are being sold like hell these days, sounding like crap, and the original inventor and producer of genuine "pocket cassette player" (also one of the world“s largest music labels!) haven“t even bothered to notice a trend. In that context, this "anniversary" so called "walkman" fits like a fist in the eye of any true walkman and sony admirers.... what a pity! Many people asked me for advice what cassette walkman to buy nowdays, and most of them are shocked that only proper solution to enjoy (old and new) tape albums and compilations is to buy a used, refurb or "old new stock" device (luckily, some of your videos are explaining very well what to buy or not, so I advise them to use it as refference - once more: thanks, Techmoan!).... knowing that other serious large companies are following the trend (like Tascam, with a very decent 202ᴍᴋVII deck), it“s a great shame that Sony totally ignored a great chance to show who is the bass, once again. :( cheers!
Sony's really asking people to pay hundreds of dollars for an mp3 player in 2019, huh?
Had it been a really good one I would have been interested. But they probably thought not that many would be interested so they didn't even bother trying.
The walkman was such a success that the retarted execs believe nostalgia will bring back those same customers.
I paid 200 for a walkman (A-45) and love it.
aha and apple can keep their prices up, but Sony really is giving you some hd audio device, which is compared to others pretty good
if you want some real good devices you probably have to spend more than 500 bucks
this price is ok
And Apple want you buy a stand ,