Judge Mom is NOT HAPPY that Defendant Ignored Court Orders & Attorney Pleads for his Friend!
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Having a large group "supporting" him, including the victim, really just means...the large group enabling him.
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So is this so-called judge!
Including the victim. I have been the victim in a DV case and I know it isn't easy; but still, you can't keep inviting them to attack you again.
@@merlynshandley6337I agree, all bark and no bite imo. Too many judges, and prosecutors, are like that. People get away with everything.
I came here to say the same thing.
That defense attorney going on about what a “great kid” this grown ass man is made me cringe. SO inappropriate!!!
He's opening himself to ethics problems by playing a dual role as an unsworn character witness for his client who is a close personal friend.
it worked on the female lawyer. It would not have worked on a male lawyer. His lawyer played the emotional card for a reason.
Agree!
Very inappropriate and Idc how well you know them, you don't know what goes on behind closed doors......
"grown ass"?
Does he have a large posterior, or an adult donkey?
Don't ever put your reputation on the line for an addict. Its a bad bet.
Amen
As a addict I wholeheartedly agree. Also, the attorney sounds like he's at an audition to play an attorney.
Attorney: “he checked himself into AA and NA. Who does that?”
Um, lots of people.
Actually, nobody, because that isn't a thing. They are meetings, not inpatient rehab. You don't "check in". You attend. I'm not sure the lawyer knows what an AA meeting is...
@@thomasdalton1508Right. Its not a GD Hotel! 😂
Check himself into? It’s just meetings… not actual in patient treatment.
@user-df7dc1gt5m The no contact probably ended when he was convicted at the request of the victim. They will often impose a no contact bond condition prior to conviction regardless of the victim's wishes in order to prevent witness intimidation, but that isn't an issue after conviction so if the victim wants to end the no contact they will usually respect that. The victim is an adult and is free to make their own bad decisions and who to have a relationship with.
don't MOST people join AA/NA voluntarily?
This is your last, last, last chance. I mean it. I really mean it. There won't be a last, last, last, last chance. I know I said your last, last chance was it, but here we are.
The "justice" system is a joke.
Tom's appealing to the judge as tho she's his mommy & she complied.
How old is this grown "kid," anyway?
That said, I wish him well.
I would have remanded him on the spot. He's turned down too many opportunities to comply already. 3 months minus time served for a DV? Pffft, not enough.
Yes, I see this far too often. Only 8 violations. ugh
I'm going to count to 3, 1, 2 2 and a half 2 3/4 ,I really mean this 2 and 7/8 ............
@@joedennehy386 😂👍
The defense attorney, "when he told me that he is going to be a father". He could have said, "when I knocked up the girl who I beat up". Our judicial system is a hot mess.
She’s part of the problem. She’s in the court room enabling him along with the rest of his “supporters”!
I wish there was a REAL way to pay ppl to NOT have kids. Like pay $500 to take depo shots that would essentially make females as close to sterilized without being permanent
His lawyer is his hype guy. He’s going to get all this guy’s money.
I think our families are a mess too: who raised this guy?
To the pregnant girlfriend...
RUN🤪🤪🤪🤪
That “good kid” is a balding adult man. First violation - revoke probation. I’m not impressed with: ‘this is his 4th violation - I COULD send him to jail for all 93 whole days’ - toothless threat. The number of chances are unending, and the punishment is insufficient. He beat his pregnant girlfriend. I hope he doesn’t beat the baby when he’s drunk and on drugs, because Lord knows “checking himself into an AA meeting” didn’t fix anything.
Why ya gotta bring up "balding"???
She caved .. we all saw it coming ..
@@jjack41She usually always does!
She fell for it.
This load will never learn. All he learned today, again, is that there are no consequences for his actions. By his abuse of drugs and not controlling his temper he's going to kill someone.
She can only do what she is allowed to do. Blame the prosecutor.
@@Cheshyrgrin True enough, but there was nothing illegal about her disregarding Probation's recommendation and sending this criminal to jail for 90 days. Sounds like an excellent way to get clean to me.
And as for the defense lawyer...bringing up his personal relationship with his client was out of line, and might have actually been a reason for recusing himself from defending him, IMHO.
@Cheshyrgrin Was the prosecutor even there? In a lot of jurisdictions prosecutors don't attend these types of hearings, it between the Court, the defense, and probation. Regardless, nothing was stopping the Judge from giving the defendant the full time in jail other than her own feelings on the matter.
I concur.
@@Cheshyrgrinshe doesn't have to accept the plea.
I don't trust lawyers who try and make any argument for their clients on a personal level. It's unprofessional and, for me, unethical. His judgment is clouded. I also dislike the argument that someone 'comes from a good family'. Someone else's actions have absolutely nothing to do with anyone's own family members. Personal responsibility is extremely important. Not relying on the family name.
100 %!
Make mistakes how many times?
Absolutely. His behaviour says far more about him than his family. The lawyer is ignoring the facts. He may have been a good kid, but he's not a good adult. Good adults don't beat their partners and then repeatedly violate their probation.
While I agree it’s potentially unethical, you have to also agree that he advocated for his client very well
@@RonaldRayGun0802 I'm not sure his advocacy made a lot of difference. I think the defendant having been to AA/NA meetings is what convinced her to throw him the very small bone of changing the 1 day in jail in the recommendation to 24 hours of community service.
I shouldn't have looked at the comments first because now that I know she didn't send him to jail, I can't stomach to watch. Why act all tough and then not follow through? All it does is tell criminals that she doesn't really mean what she says. I usually like this judge, but this guy needed to go to jail.
I feel exactly the same way.!. Now I have the disappointed face .
If the judge reads these comments . You let us All down.
Same. I'm outta here.😒
Same, he's a dirtbag!!
Ditto
I’m sick of the judges rant and then keep them on probation. Disgusting.
Keep him where he is, in jail let him. Maybe he can fight his way in the prison
Lie, he will be back.
Totally agree
Just another judge who only knows how to blow hot air. No wonder why he's had as many chances as he's had.
Does no one listen????
The judge in THE VERY BEGINNING says she was annoyed by the plea deal the PROSECUTION made. She said she would have found 93 days in jail APPROPRIATE. How does everyone miss all of that??????
He doesn’t have a support system. He has enablers.
I think the defense attorney was too emotionally involved here. It sounds like he might have been doing the representation as a favor due to past connections potentially but the argument was charged and not in a good way. He needs to take a step back and make a controlled, restrained argument.
He was really pouring it on thick!
@@momsterzz yes indeed. He was right on the cusp of where you hear some criminal defendants acting. Zealous advocacy is one thing, emotional arguments are another.
I thought the Defence Attorney was going to cry, how pathetic!
It was theatrics and he accomplished his purpose.
@@garrettswoodworx1873 True, he got the result for his client, but I think that was in spite of his method of argument not because of it.
What's really pathetic is they keep letting him out . Judges need to start being held accountable for the revolving door they created . No judge has to accept a plea deal that is the judges choice and only the judges choice .
The problem is it costs the tax payer so much to house a criminal in jail. Judges prob only send the really bad criminals to prison bc there are limited "spots" and resources. TRUST I do not approve of this. I think the criminals should earn their keep by working. Chain gangs are a bit much but just shy of them, Im good with. We all should not be paying for "3 hots and a cot" free cable TV, work out and bulk up, socialize and their from their fellows cons how to be "better" criminals once they get out.
Sorry, but there are a lot of problems with what you said. First, Judges are bound by the LAW and sentencing guidelines, that are instituted by the State legislature AND by voters, when they are put up as Ballot Measures, Referendums, etc.
Yes, there are judges who use their discretion on sentencing, but to lump ALL judges in the same category, is irresponsible and irrelevant.
You are right they don't have to accept plea deals, but when the offender(s) don't comply, like this guy, the judge's hands are tied when it comes to sentencing.
@@CJOlin we don't vote on sentencing guidelines 😂 we vote people in that make these sentencing guidelines but they are not put to a public vote 😂 I also never say all judges or even suggest it's all judges 😂 got that second grade reading comprehension going strong 😂
She should have put him in jail. He's shown he doesn't want to do what the court has ordered. What makes her believe he will comply this time?
Well he did go to NA and AA meetings and he has a sponsor so that's something.
And the fact that he might lose his job was a factor that I think the Judge wisely took into account. BUT if he EVER touches his girlfriend, other than with love, EVER again, he should end up with a full load of a sentence.
@@suzannenichols6900Lol. Wow. This is why these people keep getting away with this stuff. Yay, he went to AA and NA (probably because his lawyer begged him to so he had something to go on). The dude beat his girlfriend and the thing he won't do is take the program that is supposed to help with that. What a great man.
Him going to NA and AA isn't what is going to help in the long run it will help but he was told to take the DV classes for a reason @@suzannenichols6900
This is so ridiculous. All of this glaring, staring, and postering by the judge only to do absolutely nothing when the defendant is basically giving his middle finger to her court orders. What an absolute joke. 🤦🏿♂️
It shows the value of having a good lawyer.
Judges know this. They also know the system is overflowing with cases and criminals and there is literally no room for more. If judges were stricter the system would collapse. Go to an arraignment day at court. It is chaos of case after case
Im usually sympathetic to defense council, but this personal plea is so, so scummy.
The judge yells a good game. Makes great threats. But bottom line, she dropped the ball. Instead of the needed hammer. Tough love was called for, IMO.
He's laughing at the judge. So am I. He'll be back. She looks the fool not the defendant.
A life long friend should not be representing him that is a serious conflict of interest.
I think anyone who has a domestic abuse case/problem should have ZERO 2nd, 3, 4th chances especially if they were lucky enough in the 1st place to get probation….The victim doesn’t have a 2nd chance “NOT” to get abused. Where is the punishment?
That’s why we have a huge domestic violence problem that’s not getting any better. And when did defense attorneys speak and support personally on clients behalf?
Yes!
Can you tell me where I can find proof that theres a huge dv problem?
@@purpleprose1315 yes. The National Coalition Against Domestic Violence's study says 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced DV. There numerous scholarly journals which contain data from national studies. Those tend to estimate 1 in 4 women are victims of DV. That is based on what actually gets reported. I'm not sure if you were really asking or not, but if so, those are good places to start.
@@CapitalCityKate ty. Those numbers seem high to me. Did you watch the Kowalski vs JHACH trial where JHACH lost and has to pay over $200 million. My special needs 17 yr old son has prader-willi syndrome. Its one of the most complicated. Hes being tortured to death after 7 placements and countless admissions. All because two stupid social workers wanted to blame for things that exist do due a chromosomal abnormality. Prior to his kidnapping 18 months ago, he was never abused, didnt witness abuse, or no way was left alone with strangers. I do not trust the numbers.
Lawyers, don't represent your best bro. Refer them to a colleague.
The lawyer said he saw the dude when a child. That is not being best bro.
That lawyers voice is very annoying! He sounds so whiny like he’s trying to cry. Ugh!!!
The problem is that shes a judge, not the parent. I wish we still had an actual justice system that didnt cater to the criminal.
Totally agreed! Its judges (or so-called) like her who have let the innocent public down over and over. What got me is when she said, "I'm not trying to be mean!"
Impressive. Blaming the judge for the prosecutor's decision.
@@seantimmons5900 no the blood is on both. The blood is on the system. The blood is on everyone who voted for this new liberal justice system. There's enough blame to go around.
@seantimmons5900 DO you not know what a probation violation is? And that every time it's broken, a good judge will up the penalty instead of waiting until the 6th or 7th time?
@@merlynshandley6337 I don't know what you're getting at. Yes good judges do their job. But most judges are liberal activists masquerading as justice perveyers
All this case showed me was that if you have really good representation that you can get probation and no jail time. This man beat a woman, violated his probation time and time again, and still did no jail time. The judge's rent seemed nice but resulted in nothing but yet another chance for this man child. So disappointing.
I mean, that’s what lawyers are paid to do…get you out of trouble or minimize the punishment.
He would love to accept responsibility?! No. No He would not. 🤦🏻♀️
ok there’s 5 minutes left in this video and the defendant is talking to the judge and I swear if the judge lets him off again….I’ve lost all hope in this system.
Meg, you absolutely nailed the disappointed mom look, and then the head shaking like, "I'm so disappointed in you." I was laughing out loud when you said that because it's just so accurate.
That :"lawyer" needs to be sanctioned for obviously lying and supporting his client's criminal activity. He is trying to defend the undefendable.
Counsel: "He only made *one mistake* and wants a second chance to do better."
Court: "Absent, absent, absent, holiday, absent, absent, absent..."
Sounds like he has had lots of second chances in a row to show he's penetent.
It sounded like my 10 year old begging not to have his Xbox back. This is an adult
He Just NeeDs OnE mOre ChanCe for thE 5th time that's all your honor.
Probation is a joke they are so soft now.
Can you imagine putting your childhood friend in this position to defend your inability to follow court orders. It is time to cut ties with your friend.
Um, he broke his sponsors anonymity. That's not cool at all.
This Judge is a joke and fell for the bullsh>**! What a shame
Yup. Same shit, different day.
She didn’t fall for it. She threw the defense attorney a bone.
That defense attorney is choosing to be the most naive person so that he can avoid lying by saying he didn't know..
If this childhood friend defense lawyer is as naive as he sounds, than OMG.. He's going to get played! And he sounds like he's going to cry!
Also, there's no such thing as checking yourself into AA and NA.. and there's no such thing as private AA.. All BULL. no recovery here
going to get played but also "get paid"!!!! He doesn't care!
Why has he been missing dv classes and he’s a batterer? He should have been locked up ASAP
Judge S is always personally invested in her cases which I usually find endearing. Not this time tho. Lawyer sounds like he's gonna cry which seems inappropriate. And he keeps calling the defendant a kid, as if to minimize his bad actions. Pretty screwy.
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The most telling thing is that the fella views the anger management and DV classes as punitive. If he was sincere about his epiphany he would understand they are there to help.
One year of probation for a DV case? My abuser got three years initially, and a fourth tacked on when she broke a no-contact order and phoned me during the first three. And I still feel that's not enough, more than ten years later.
Part of the problem is the initial sentence, not just his unwillingness to obey probation orders afterwards.
The lawyer making the relationship with his client personal is an abysmal choice professionally, especially if the client repeatedly defies court orders.
She seemed incensed but she let him off anyway. From his perspective he beat the system again. Tough talk, but zero accountability.
He didn't deserve another chance.
Agree, Meg. Lawyers should not vouch on a personal level.
The judge shaking her head showed utter disappointment 😂 and cracked me up because your comment was so SPOT ON! 😅
With all the court cases I've watched, all defendants facing jail time suddenly signs up for therapy and drug or alcohol meetings. 🤔I wonder why?
Judge Lapdog, all bark-no bite, should have asked the lawyer if the defendant started those drug cases before or after their first client/attorney meeting. I'm betting after.
People change and he is not the same person as the lawyer remembers. Jail time for him 😡
The attorney should be dismissed with a conflict of interest to his client.
Yet another judge that will not hold people accountable and lets people violate court orders over and over. She needs to be removed from the bench and sanctioned for her poor decisions. You do not want to hold people accountable to court orders, you do not deserve the priviledge of sitting on the bench. So sad for this county to have a judge like this. Victims should be discusted by this judge.
This judge TOTALLY stood up for the woman he apparently beat. Loved seeing it.
He checked himself into NA & AA? They're meetings, not an inpatient program. This case is a prime example of why lawyers should never represent family and friends. The defense attorney is going to greatly regret representing and enabling his friend in future. The court, especially Judge Shackelford, will now see the DA as someone who supports abusers, who is completly biased, and who clearly cares more about his criminal friend and helping him get away with continual illegal behaviour, instead of upholding the law that he took an oath to uphold and protect.
the attorney sounds like a whiny brat pleading for his friend's parents to let his friend out to play.
You're right, Meg. I remember that look. It's scary. 😂
He's a friend of mine, your honor! Give him a break!
My Mum was also a teacher... Double the power behind THE look! The 'I'm disappointed' felt like it was double the power as well... Could be because I'm a softy, but yeah... Mum looked SUPER scary when in teacher mode! (Worked as a teacher for people who have learning needs and behaviour issues... during their teen years! So yeah, the look was powerful for a reason!).
Sir, your childhood friend is a scofflaw, plain and simple... What is with all this leniency?? I don't get it when it's clear this poor excuse of a human being couldn't care less about the court's orders.🤦🏼♀ I still believe our judicial system needs to tighten it up. Make it sting - A LOT - the first time, especially if it involves any kind of violence, and maybe, just maybe, they'll think twice about doing something stupid again. This giving chance after chance after chance is ridiculous.
That solicitor is infuriating, he is straying very close to the 'Bar'.....
Spoiled boy. Given break after break after break. "From a good family." But just determined that he will do it his way. Nobody can tell him what to do.
Trying to make his scumbag client sound like mother teresa.
Friends and relatives shouldn't be allowed to be defense lawyers, think at this time he sounds like he's had enough chances
That was interesting, I never thought I would ever hear an attorney almost cry talking about a client
No judge, the most important thing in his life is not hitting the mother of his child again and providing for that child.
Judge is justifiably and rightfully pissed off!! This clown deliberately kept violating his probation by simply not complying,she SHOULD throw the book at him!!!
Thank goodness he is a "God fearing" man! That will ensure he follows court orders moving forward.
AND… The Defendant named his Sponsor by his full name. That is SO not cool. It’s anonymous, Dillweed.
Flip! I was waiting for the attorney to start crying and scream "but i love him judge"
That defense left out that he's a member of the church choir. And only One merit badge away from being a first class boy scout😂
My guess is he keeps messing up and the judge keeps allowing it. Weak.
All dude was taught was that he can ALWAYS get another chance.
I went to my 1st meeting in February of 1988. I have been homeless and penniless for over 12 years. I did not go to detox or rehab. I just acknowledged 36 years clean. I lived in a car and nearly starved to death. I have remained in recovery!!!
I would hold his council responsible for ensuring he goes to his meetings. If he doesn't go, he goes to jail for the 93 days plus time served, and council gives up his bar license and gets 30 days in jail. Hold people accountable
“Checked himself into N/A and A/A”.
There is not “checking in”, and one of them is a freaking VIRTUAL MEETING.
Christ PUT HIM IN JAIL.
It seem obvious that the attorney doesn't know this guy as well as he thinks he does! So he has a support system present in the courtroom - are they as blind as the attorney?
Defense attorney needs to zipper it. Read the room bozo!
I feel like someone needed to have this very talk with him a lot earlier in life, then maybe he’d never have put his hands on a woman at all. I felt secondhand shame from that butt-chewing.
Im even madder that he's not going to have a criminal record! He could enter into a new relationship and the woman would be none the wiser.
She Should Have Locked Him Up !
Why ? He Disrespected The Court On To Many Occasions That 93 Days Would Have Been Appropriate .
#1 He's Lying About Going To Meetings ! Why Because He Does Not Want To Go To Jail !
Lets Say He Did Go 2 Meetings A Week 1 NA !AA This Makes No Sense. A Recovery Program Is Every Day.
It seems to me that the lawyer is in a conflict if he is trying to argue both lawyer and friend. He cannot say the defendant will not violate probation again.
His lawyer shouldn't be representing him if they are childhood friends. He's a joke. He's crying over him? The lawyer is obviously young and inexperienced.
This isn’t drugs this is simply keeping your hands to yourself
All she did was reinforce the fact that he can keep ignoring her orders.
Hah, I love this judge's annoyed sarcasm. 😄
Definitely agree that lawyers shouldn’t defend friends or family. It provided room for bias and to be blinded by your friendship. It doesn’t do any good. You overlook what the person did and don’t see it as serious as it should be.
Women need to stop putting themselves into situations where they have children with men who don't already have their lives in order. It's not fair to their innocent children! He physically attacked her. He just got a job. Won't take the simple steps of taking the class. This is his 4th violation!
That's it, period, go home and have a good time. This is a joke. Bet he does not follow court orders.
Very well done Your Honer. I do hope in the future if this man returns to your court room that you show him who is in charge by fully honoring your word.
"If I see you one more time"....one more time later... "if I see you one more time"...
I would offer the lawyer to endorse responsibility for his friend/client: Are you wiling to do the 93 days prison personally if he violates his probation again?
I would have liked to see his face in front of this offer.
If he does hit or push her again and doesn't leave him, the baby should be taken away from them. That baby shouldn't have to deal with that crap!!
People must learn there are consequences to actions. It would be nice if they learned that before they did something horrible.
What we have to admit is that his lawyer gave it his best.
Judges never seem to ask DV litigants where they learned this behavior, did you see your father hit your mother? 🤬
I got second hand embarrassment from that speech on why this woman beater should not be arrested.
"I know this kid personally." No, he's NOT a kid. The fact that you grew up with him and played football with him should tell you that. And to tell a judge that you expect them to "cut me off and scream at me" is the very definition of contempt of court. That old fool-for-a-lawyer line should extend to being represented by playground buddies as well as self representation.
The judge knows, the judge gave him yet another chance to .....chances are she will meet an unfortunate end.
Isn't it also a Conflict of Interest for the Lawyer to Defend this Man on such a Personal Level? I'm suprised she didn't shut this down and get him a different lawyer unless he's paying for him personally out of pocket.
Ridiculous. The defense attorney is sticking his own neck out way to far for this loser.
This attorney is testifying. Thats not cool.
If I were the judge I would have dressed this lawyer down on the record for his ridiculous attempt at representing this clown. It's completely inappropriate if you ask me. Then I'd have revoked his probation and sent him straight to jail.
That coffee cup ‘thump’ matches her mood..
Being a personal advocate is unusual, but so is the now pregnant victim sitting in the back row of the court. Either way it’s a doomed scenario the judge is mighty 😡
That defence attorney’s use of emotional manipulation in his attempt to get his “childhood buddy… a great kid” (don’t think of him as a grown-ass man, your honour - I might be in my late-20s & already balding, but he’s just a likeable little fella who made a mistake! Look! His family LOVES him! 🤮) off the hook for his ongoing CRIMINAL behaviour, is exceptionally unprofessional. If that lawyer can’t manage to separate his emotions from his work, he doesn’t have any business in a courtroom. And let’s never have to hear about “women’s emotions” getting in the way of their work again - in my professional experience, they’re almost ALWAYS the most calm, collected, well-prepared people in any meeting room.
Thanks Meg! At the beginning the judge is rapping! “It’s a Probation Violation Allegation”!
Shackleford is so compassionate. HOWEVER, don't dare mistake that as a weakness.