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Ahoyhoy there, Fellow TH-camrino! There was also a children's television program with Burl Ives, a man who was in fact, in a Disnee film ( So Dear to My Heart ) the series was actually called" Pied Piper "
There used to be a series on CBS that ran on Saturday mornings called CBS: Storybreak, when I was a kid. There was an episode entitled "What Really Happened In Hamelin" that put forth the theory that after the Piper rid the town of rats (by having the citizens put out their salted meats and covering up all sources of water aside from the river,) the rats were so thirsty they drowned themselves. When denied payment, the Piper befriends the local bakers apprentice (a child) and convinces him to bake a batch of honeybuns with rye infected with Ergot, (which contains LSA; a less potent form of LSD.) The Piper instructs the apprentice that the honeybuns are only for the children in the town; that the adults are to have none. The children hallucinate, along with the other symptoms of Ergot poising, known as St. Elmo's Fire. The Piper convinces the parents of the town that he can cure the children; but must take them elsewhere in order to do so. The parents, feeling they have no other choice; allow the Piper to take the children away. Pretty fucking dark, right? Yeah, this was on a Saturday morning series for kids, lucky me.
Jon i read a version once where the pied piper leaded the mice into a river then when they wouldn't give him money he later led the children to the river and drowned them.
Exactly. I used to play ring around the rosy........ I never knew it was actually about a plague, and that the "we all fall down" phrase stood for their death, until I got older.
"Grew up to be kind-hearted adults with terrible teeth and type 2 diabetes. They lived in candyland ya'll. I don't know what else would you expect." That part made me nearly choke on my water.
The version I read was different from all of these. The town's people were all greedy, but the mayor still promised a reward for anyone who could rid them of the rats. One resident actually knew the piper and sent him a letter for help. The next day, he arrived in town and hypnotized the rats, leading them to a river where they all drowned. Upon returning to the town though, they only gave him one gold coin instead of the promised 90 silver coins and 9 gold ones. He shamed the people for being greedy and led the children away right that second, instead of waiting for all the adults to leave. They followed him and were hidden as the piper went back to the town. By the time he got back, the town's people had learned their lesson and payed the piper in full. The piper actually returned the children in this version, and the greedy town of Hamelin turned into a town of generosity and hospitality.
In 1967, the Pied Piper was reincarnated into an actual human form. His name was Robert Sylvester Kelly.. He has been playing music, and taking away teenage girls to his village never to be seen again.
I once heard a twisted version where the pied piper wanted a place in the town or something and what happened was when he led the rats elsewhere, and came back waiting for his prize, the townspeople didn’t give it to him, so, in front of the townspeople, he led the children of the town off the edge of a cliff. It’s really freaking twisted, but that’s a version I’ve heard.
I thought that in the original tale the piper drowned the kids in a river like he did with the rats before watching this video and seeing no mention of that, now I'm not sure there even is a version like the one I described but I wouldn't be surprised if there was.
Taryn tooHonest like how did they decide this should be a children's book? Kids kidnapped never to be seen again should never be a story a young child should read. It didn't sit well with me at 7 when I read ut
To all those people who laugh at the idea of a magic flute luring children away, remember when this story is set, they don't have radio, TV, Etc. A minstrel would have been a big deal back then, kids would have flocked to see what was happening and to hear the music. But I think the last idea was more likely.
@PUBG TEAM No Sleep I don't know how you got lost in what George said. But, he didn't mention not in damn thing about the situation of r.kelly. He's actually talking about the story that Jon just explained. That children could have been mesmerized by the idea of something new and wanting to hear it, and wanting to follow him.
I think also it could've been someone the children trusted, and spent time with daily & the pipe could have been a dog whistle. Some degree of deafness was a very common ailment in the middle ages. Especially since they never treated ear infections, and when they did it was with pouring breast milk, coriander, and other odd concoctions down the person's ear. It could've been an earlier version of today's dog whistles. It was common for rat catchers to train animals to kill rats. It wouldn't be unusual for that person to have a whistle like that.
That's also a possibility. Elsewhere have mentioned a ghost story from my great grandmother's family about a bar of light. In any case , the path way they walked where the family encountered the light, was a path actually used during the Childrens Crusade.Took place near Gambach, Bavaria. Hard to really say what happend to these children.
Baltimore TURK , Omg, you’re right!! I just listened to it to hear if I could catch it. Wow never noticed it before. I never liked that particular song by him, and I’m not gonna lie about liking most of his other music because I did. But anyway, like you said, one can’t help but to move to it... Nice observation.
I was brought up on the version that the pied piper led the children into the river, like the rats, and drowned. And to be honest, both is terrifying and why I will never follow a stranger no matter how charming or how musically talented he may be. XD
Imalms oh I should show that to my sister! Show her what I had for entertainment than her endless music.ally's etc. Honestly Silly Symphony is better ;}
I lived in Germany from 1978 to 1984. I was told there is another story behind the Pied Piper: The Bubonic plague that killed 130 citizens in the small town of Hamlin in 1284. As the story goes, people were very superstitious of cats at that time. They believed witches used cats as their familiars, or imbodied cats to secretly put curses on people around them. So, they gathered every cat they could find and killed them. Without the cat population to eat the mice, the mice population grew. The mice had fleas, which are carriers of the bubonic plague still today. When the fleas bit people, they got sick and died. The ones who the fleas had no effect on, were people who worked closely with horses. Mice fleas avoid the scent of horses, thus only they and their households survived. In this story, the Pied Piper is death, the children are the village citizens that death took with him. That year Death (The Pied Piper) came twice: First for the cats, which are the natural rat killers, then for the citizens.
you are right my mom used to tell me all the time 'you always pay the piper even tho you didn't like the song ' i asked mom where she got that saying and she told me about the pied piper really creepy story
I’ve heard a different version. The Pied Piper was Satan or at least a representative of him. He came to a town that was suffering,and offered his “services”. He made a deal with the towns leaders to rid them of the plagued rats who were spreading disease and overtaking the towns food storage. Starving and sick,they were desperate. Obviously,he wanted their souls,and they,facing certain death,reluctantly agreed for the sake of the townspeople. He then led the rats away with a high pitched instrument,much like a dog whistle that only the rats could hear,that drove the rats AWAY... and no one else in the town knew. The rats didn’t FOLLOW him. He chased them out. When he returned to collect,the leaders suddenly were overcome with fear and regret. They begged and pleaded for a new deal. He replied,”The only thing that I will accept is a sacrifice of great worth in your place...your children.” They,overcome with fear,selfishness,and self preservation agreed. While the townspeople were at church,the leaders gathered the towns children,and brought them to him. He led them away,to an obviously gruesome fate. When the townspeople returned home,they were horrified to see their children missing. When they asked the town leaders what had happened,they made up the Pied Piper story to deflect blame from themselves. Ironically enough,by sacrificing their own innocent children in their place,the towns leaders had unknowingly forfeited their souls to Satan anyway. When they went to Hell,Satan told them that it was he who brought the plague of rats to their town in the first place. Instead of turning to God like the children’s parents were doing in church,they turned to their own wicked schemes and brought suffering on many....including eternal suffering to themselves. The only “happy ending” to the tale is that none of the children,though surely dying in unspeakable ways,went to Hell. They were innocent and Satan had no eternal hold on them. Sadly,if the leaders would’ve simply joined in with the rest of the townspeople in church to pray,Satan would’ve fled,and God would’ve commanded the rats to leave. The crops would return,and sicknesses healed. If not for the wickedness,schemings, and lack of faith of the few leaders,the suffering of the many could’ve been completely avoided......
I'm German and "das Rattenfänger" is grammatically incorrect. It must be "der Rattenfänger" like you wouldn't say "Las Angelos", "Los Vegas" or "El Casa".
Crazy how it's talking about how it's been so many years after their kids left and parents didn't start really taking notice until so many started disappearing. Just reminds me of the whole R Kelly situation, how no one barely even blinked an eye, or either turned a blind eye to him and Aaliyah being together. He already has all these allegations against him and has for years. More girls get involved then NOW, people are taking notice, protesting, and talking about how long it's been since they've seen their child and yada yada.
Even deeper. According to William Manchesters book, A World Lit Only By Fire, on page 66 he describes the pied piper as a real person. On 20 June 1484 he led 130 children from the village and used them in unspeakable ways and mudered them. Their dismembered remains were found scattered around the forest and hanging from tree branchs, creepy stuff.
Hi Sean -- Manchester apparently made that story up whole cloth. There's no historical evidence for what he describes and his telling of the fate of the children appears only in his book. That said, the book is a damned good read and is worth the time of anyone interested the history of the Middle Ages.
Jon Solo: What if I told you that the "Pied Piper" was a real thing? Me: Of course he was, Jon! Have you seen LovelyTi's videos on R Kelly? Jokes aside, I wasn't introduced to the Pied Piper through Disney. I was introduced to it through the Peanuts' take on it, "It's the Pied Piper, Charlie Brown".
What I love about the pied piper is that it's real and isn't really a story. It's one line that someone actually wrote in the town's chronicles, "It's been 100 years since our children left." But there isn't anything else. I'm assuming that whatever happened they thought it was true.
It is possible that there could have been a piper of some sort that kidnapped 130 children. Maybe not through magic, but through music. Music was popular at the time and if the children heard it, with their parents gone, they could have been curious and led away. It’s like how children are led away by strangers. Strangers aren’t going to kidnap children by revealing their intentions. They will offer candy and look friendly with how they talk. Children will trust and follow them. I have no doubt this is probably what happened, if this tale is true.
A top theory is a Herald with pipes or a horn was with the kings immigration recruiter who took 130 volunteer and conscripted colonist to land captured after the christian crusades against the eastern pagans
I went to highschool there in the mid 1990's. The people there really believe it happened. Many but ldings of the era still exist. They have a flutists dressed in a wild outfit lead tourist around the city. The actual documents show the loss of the children. The mountain & the cave is there. My closest friend lived on the mountain. It is considered historical fact in this town. The town hall in the photo is still there in the center of town
5:00 It's "Der Rattenfänger." I know our articles are very confusing. :/ I'm no linguist, but let me try to explain it. Germans use gendered articles and all our words are sorted into such. *"Der", "Die"* and *"Das."* *- Die =* female or plural for groups. Like in "Die Frau" (the woman) or "Die Frauen/Die Männer" (The women/ The Men). While "Die Gruppe" (the group) is also female. But only if you start the sentence with this word. "Die Gruppe ist in der Kneipe." (The group is in the pub.) *- Der =* male. As in "Der Mann" (The man). When you're part of a group or describe something IN the group it's "Der". ... germans have to make everything complicated. _>
Thank you for the explanation! I've seen about twenty "it's *der* rattenfanger dumbass" comments but no one's taken the time to break down the correction to me lol. Appreciate it :)
No problem Jon. :) German is a mean language. I mean, how should you know if nobody explained it to you. And thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them.
I will never understand people who can clearly see dozens of comments saying the EXACT same thing they were about to contribute and then still add the same comment. Guys, we KNOW that the R Kelly documentary ignited your interest. We don't need 100 ppl to all say that in succession .
Is it really that hard for u to imagine that some if not most people comment before looking at comments or dont even look at comments at all? Most ppl aint bout this yt life dawg
@@RubberyCat True but to be fair I said that in my comment "always play your debts, keep your promises" but I would be somewhat wary of a stranger with a magic flute and probably wouldn't trust them completely
It’s actually „Der Rattenfänger“. That’s actually funny, because I‘m from Germany and always thought that the English version was called „rat catcher“ too. And I never found the English version xD
Nice video! Id like to add a viewpoint. Usually folklore & mythology have basis in real world events and are explained in story form to help more ppl understand it. This is leaning more towards the emigration view of this story. Possibly, the pied piper could be another country (Transylvania, Prussia, etc) with multi-colored attractions (jobs, alternate lifestyles) that lured the children (towns people) away.
I am here now after watching #survingrkelly 😭 this is so disgusting. He called himself the pied piper.. how did he get away with it for so long. He was shoving it in our faces. All his songs, lyrics, nicknames. This information hurts me a lot more than I expected it to. Thanks for the video!
God is able and R Kelly and those around him who enable will pay for all the hurt he has caused for so many lives.I feel bad for all involved and will pray for them healing and restoration esp for those girls still trapped and for them to be reunited with their families and loved ones
So disappointing to see his secret evil lifestyle. I went to his concert a few years ago with no idea he had kids locked up in his mansion...That makes me wanna vomit
i dont think he hid anything. i mean aliyah's album was called "age aint nothing but a number" and you can clearly see R kelly in the bakcground. and plus he was peeing on people wayyy before peeing on people was cool.
In some version of the story, a friendship of the piper and the crippled kid is vitally important to the tale. The irony of the crippled boy, previously the piper's only friend (maybe an exaggeration, but that's how the story was told), being the only one who was left behind, was a big part of the story, as I heard it.
I had gone on a tour of Europe and we actually went to Hamlin, and it was insane on how many things they had relating to the pied piper, including plays, musicals, and a bell show connected to the church
@@romana9283 and when hobi said "guilty pleasure you can't escape, never" representing the rats and children being so intrigued and hypnotized by his music not getting enough of it until they die
I need a whole video of just theories on this. I honestly think that it did happen and happened exactly as it said but instead of the pipe being magically, the kids just liked the tune of the song he was playing and decided to follow him because if It was magical they wouldn't be able to snap out of It and go grab their coat and the blind kid would still be in a trance so his mind would be souly focused on following that music.
JON: "...instead of attracting rats, this time he attracted a swarm of bees which proceeding to sting him until he died." ME: ...HUH? JON: "I'm just kidding. I just want to make sure you were paying attention." ME: Oh, I am paying attention alright *laugh*
Did anyone else think of the Children's Crusade? Also happens to be one of the creepiest crusades in terms of what (allegedly) happened to the children.
Nope you are not the first to postulate that it may be referring to the Children's Crusade. More then a few scholars have suggested it might be the origins. It makes sense.
Welcome back, Jon. I hope you enjoyed your vacation. You mentioned a Pagan connection with the Pied Piper. I once read a theory that the story may have been influenced by the Greek god Apollo, who, as a god of healing, was said to lure away rats, as they spread disease.
"Follow the sound of the flute, follow this song it my be a little dangerous but I'm very sweet" I'm sorry I had to. For all the ARMY you know the song 😉
I'm really surprised as I had heard of the dc villain ratcatcher from batman arkham asylum as a comic character entry. Didn't realise he was actually inspired by the pied piper/rat catcher until you mentioned the second name. Makes sense since many of batman's comic villains are inspired by stories. Very cool Jon.
The truth is that Lucifer (Satan) was created with tabrets (percussion) and PIPES within him (Ezekiel 28:13-19 King James Version) as well as "viols" or stringed instruments (Isaiah 14:9-20 King James Version). Music was created by God for us to worship Him. This is why we are so impressionable by music and animals are not. Its not a mythical character that steals children. Its the fallen one who uses what was created within him against the Most High God to steal children from the salvation that is in Christ Jesus. The devils revenge. My question to you is: What music has the Pied Piper played for you? Obey the Gospel and be saved from this world soon to be judged. Acts 2:37-39.
When I was in 6th grade I had to re-write the Pied Piper from one of the children’s point of view. And I’ve never even heard of this story before. Since I didn’t know about it, I asked my dad and he told me that it’s about a guy who gets paid to kill rats. And after I heard that I was annoyed how I got a really boring story to re-write. But my teacher gave me the real book story and all I can say is... that really ruined me
That's funny, I never heard of the piper getting locked out then taking the kids to candy land and the rats to cheese. I only had heard of the piper taking the rats to the river where they drown and the children away to the river to drown.
Just a little nitpicking here: it's really "Der" Rattenfänger. "Das" is a neutral article, while "Rattenfänger" (rat catcher) is a male noun. And bcs the article always has the same gender as the noun it refers to, it's "Der Rattenfänger". Otherwise great video, keep it up =)
@Elijah Falvey well I grew up in germany and never heard anyone saying "Das Rattenfänger" cause... that is simply wrong. And I also don't think that the language was different back then. It could be possible that "Das" was used by non german speakers. But I highly doubt that any german person would say "Das Rattenfänger" anyways, you might still be right. But well, when you look up the story the first things popping up say "Der Rattenfänger"
it's "der Rattenfänger" not "das rattenfänger" because german has three different translation of "the" which explain the "gender" of the word. Easier said in german a word can be male, female or neutral. The word "rattenfänger" has two different parts put togheter to one word "rat" and "catcher" while rat is a female word in german and catcher is a male word the new founded word always has the same type as the last word what makes "Ratcatcher" a male word. Why google said it's a neutral word leaves me clueless but that's not a big problem. In general I just want to make sure that a missinformation won't lead to more missinformation and stuff :D But the video was really nice researched.
Ich nehme mal an, du bist Deutsche/r, also hier eine Antwort auf deutsch: ich freue mich sehr, dass du die Grammatik erklärt hast. Korrigieren können (und machen) viele und manchmal habe ich den Eindruck kaum jemand weiß überhaupt, welche grammatikalische Regel dahinter steckt. 👍
Its not about the music, music has nothing to do about those, its the kids/teenagers fault because listening to music cannot lead u to those things its the person's mind on how they take the music and on how they will use it in life
Your a boomer he’s a boomer I’m a boomer we’re all got damn boomers lmao your PARENTS boomer powder fell upon you 😂 we all have boomer style in us because our parents or grand parents raised us with their boomer brains you boomer
The Disney one made me mad😂"All you did was play the flu-" *WELL, CAN YOU DO IT!? WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT, THEN!? (Silence) EXACTLY! NOW, GIMME MAH MONIES!*
The pied piper story always reminds of another story that takes place with a man and his old mother. I think it comes from China but here goes. After a perivous king dies his son takes over and is unhappy with the old people in his kingdom because he thinks all the do is take up space and can't work as hard as younger stronger people. So he decrees that anyone over 71 years of age must be taken into the mountains and left to die and anybody who does not do so will be put to death. So the citizens so this though that aren't happy about it. Well a year or so later a mans mother hit that magic number of 71 and he knew that he must do so. There's a town record and everyone knows his mother is 71 now. So he puts his mother in his back as she could not walk well and heads towards the mountains. As he is walking he keeps hearing the snapping of twings and ask his mother what it is and she tell him that she is marking a path so he will not get lost on his way back after he leads her to die. This act make steh man cry and he can't bear o leave his mother there so after dark he sneaks her back home and hides her in a secret room under his house. A few days later a king form another land come to take over this one but he tell the king that if he can supply him with what he ask fro for 2 days he will leave and go somewhere else. The first thing he ask for is a drum that beats itself. So the king goes to the wise men but because they are young that have no answers so he sends criers to town promising gold for anyone who came bring him a drum that beast itself. So that night the man goes to his mother tell her of the news of the day as he had been doing and she laughs when he mentions the drum that can beat itself. When he asks why that is funny she explain making on is simple. All he must do is make drum with one side and lace the inside a sweet substance to attract some bees. While the bees are inside he must seal the other side. The bees will bang into the sides trying to get out and it will seems as if the drum beast itself. So the man does as his mother instructs and takes the new drum to the castle and the young king is ecstatic thanks the man with his bag of gold and presents it to the dictator who isn't actually very happy as he knows the land is filled with riches to be plundered so he gives the next request of ten lengths of ropes made form ash thinking there is no possible way he can give him that. So the king ask his wise men but again they have no clue so she sends the criers out again promising that anyone who brings him the ask ropes will grant him one request of his desire. Again as the man tell his mother she chuckles to herself. "Our young king is certainly in trouble." she says. So the man ask if it is even possible. She tell him it is that he musk soak the rope in something and when he burn they they will not burn but that they will look as if made form ash. It is at this point I forget what he is supposed to soak them in. So forgive me. Anyway he does o and again takes them to the king who in turn presents them to the dictator who is enraged that he must leave. The king asks him what he would like. Money? women? to be made a lord? But the man shakes his head and says all he wants is his mother. So the king says alright when she turns 71 you don't have to take her to the mountains. He replies "No you don"t understand she already that but I couldn't leave her in the mountains to die. It was her who told me how to make those things." IT was then that the king understood older peopel might not be able to work as hard but they have experience in life and may know something a younger generations does not. I think in the end he retracted the decree. also it might have been 3 things but again things get a little foggy as this was something i read way back in high school in like tenth grade. But The piped piper reminds me of it. It is also a shining example of why we should listen to our elders. Thought you mind have found it interesting I hope someone did. Sry it was so long.
well your are very welcome I am very glad you enjoyed it. that was just one story I remebered reading way back in high school I know some celtic myths like the story about Rhiannon/Epona the horse goddess not the Epona from zelda lol. I love Mythology and fairy tales because they often have something to teach or a moral like in Cinderella you could say that beauty lies within. Just to prove a point I will explain what mean by that. Cinderella spelt in the cinders her name wasn't really Cinderella. maybe it was Ella but we aren't told that. Now most people would see girl who might be pretty if she washed with out knowing she sleeps there to stay warm at night. I sure she has blanket and maybe a pillow if she lucky but when you are one the floro that is where all the could air is so it feels much colder then in actually is. Like in summer when it get so hot transistors blow and you low power for a time because they are up high where the warmer air is. She was lucky enough to have a being that watched over her and when they really needed them after being treated so badly and denied something she was promised that she wished so hard the fairy godmother was able to come in to being to give her a very special gift. But as we know all good things must end and is another lesson is teaches. Good things must end so even better things can happen. She gets to marry the prince and become a princess for example something her stepsisters desperately wanted but didn't deserve they wanted it so badly as Jon put in another video one cut off her toes the other hacked off the back of her heel. Sorry for being gruesome there but that s the true story. I am gald you enjoyed my story though and if i can think of anymore obsuce one maybe I'll make my on video heck maybe will look this one up and tell it myself. It'll only be my voice as I am not that great with making slideshows and don't feel comfortable showing my face yet all i have on my channel right now is some lets play videos I did but they aren't great. Again glad you enjoyed it and sorry for long post ^_^; peace you you and yours and may light shine of you and your family.
So I see. Thank you for the sub very very much hopefully I will be putting up videos soon but have some personal things going on right now and that takes priority. I sure you understand that. She may just be a cat but she is my cat to give you a idea of what I am dealing with. I just hope it isn't more serious than i am thinking so any positive thoughts sent my way are very much apprenticed. Keep and eye to twitter @CrazyNeko8 I always post videos updates there feel free to leave me a comment if you like I try to always replay to them and love getting new ones. Have great day/week and hope to get video up very soon I think i might do the story in video I just gotta look up details i wanna do a good job!
Ok, I just have to point out a hilarious coincidence. So, I was listening to this outside, getting feed for my horse, the usual thing, as as you said "a swarm of bees" exactly then a bee started buzzing all over my phone, which I was playing the video on. I just find it hilarious.
Stumbled across this video and I was stunned! Good job, keep up the good work! There is also another very interesting fact about the Rat-Catcher of Hameln (or Hamelin, as I have sometimes seen). A part of my family "originates" from Romania and actually they came there in the 16th century from southern Germany. They were recruited as they were probably lower nobility to supervise a progress of setteling down in the lower Danube area in Hungary and Romania (my family does not really have much records from that time, just stories passed down and fragments of town history where they used to live so everything is kind of blurry). After WW II they emigrated back to the southern regions of Germany again (in the area my family lived German or at least some form of German was commonly spoken, more like an own language as the Amish German people speak than the usual high German probably due to the language development over centuries afar from actual Germany). BUT in the town where I live now there have been (and this is proven fact) a lot of crusaders coming through and by the 12th century they started recruiting children to come to the so called holy land. Those child-crusades never really went to Jerusalem or at least most of the recruited children were either sold on slave markets or simply died on the almost yearlong journey, so they have developed a simplyfied form of the tale that is commonly known as the rat-catcher of Hameln. You want to be a rat and blindly follow, go and die so to say… tl; dr: It is really really cool to hear research about that topic. IMHO I think that there are more factors about this that lead to the story we know today. Probably all of them have some truth to it! Anyways very nice channel! Keep up the good work!
In Victorian times, children were recruited to work in mines because they could work in tight spaces, Is it possible that someone abducted children to work as slave labor in mines? Such a theory would explain the "disappearing into the Mountain" aspect of the story? There have been, over the years, disasters that wiped out a certain portion of an area's children. In Wales, the Aberfan disaster buried the village school in tons of coal slag. With 116 children killed, a large portion of the village's children were victims. Also, rats carry disease. It is possible a hantavirus wiped out all the children of the village? For there to be 130 children, the overall population of the village would have to be at least 500-600. What German villages in the area had that dense a population during the 13th century?
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Ahoyhoy there, Fellow TH-camrino! There was also a children's television program with Burl Ives, a man who was in fact, in a Disnee film ( So Dear to My Heart ) the series was actually called" Pied Piper "
There used to be a series on CBS that ran on Saturday mornings called CBS: Storybreak, when I was a kid. There was an episode entitled "What Really Happened In Hamelin" that put forth the theory that after the Piper rid the town of rats (by having the citizens put out their salted meats and covering up all sources of water aside from the river,) the rats were so thirsty they drowned themselves. When denied payment, the Piper befriends the local bakers apprentice (a child) and convinces him to bake a batch of honeybuns with rye infected with Ergot, (which contains LSA; a less potent form of LSD.) The Piper instructs the apprentice that the honeybuns are only for the children in the town; that the adults are to have none. The children hallucinate, along with the other symptoms of Ergot poising, known as St. Elmo's Fire. The Piper convinces the parents of the town that he can cure the children; but must take them elsewhere in order to do so. The parents, feeling they have no other choice; allow the Piper to take the children away. Pretty fucking dark, right? Yeah, this was on a Saturday morning series for kids, lucky me.
Interesting. 1284.
in 1212 there was the Children's crusade.
many ended up being sold into slavery.
dark as well!
Jon i read a version once where the pied piper leaded the mice into a river then when they wouldn't give him money he later led the children to the river and drowned them.
The version of the original I heard about is the Piper entranced the kinder to drown in the river just like he did to the rats
Jon: "I would love to dive deeper into this but it would take a few hours-"
Me: "I DONT CARE I HAVE TIME"
Not just hours. It takes decades to take deepest
Maybe he said that cause editing may take time
Yes please !! Take all of my time!! Lol
me too!!!
Does he?
MOST children stories are horrible if you pay attention. They are more like horror stories.
Exactly. I used to play ring around the rosy........ I never knew it was actually about a plague, and that the "we all fall down" phrase stood for their death, until I got older.
Grimm Brothers were basically the original Disney - fables & tales (tell-tales😉)
True
Making our children aware of the horrors of reality
KLYV3 exact 😊
I know a magical flute that hypnotize children it’s the ice cream truck
that has candy
@@weirdface3838 that has food
@@weirdface3838 yummy sausage
I thought it might have been some kind of drug given the kids...but the last two theories sound plausible.
That's why I've cream trucks feature in creepy movies involving kids.
6:34 - 7:00 🤔 Makes Sense. Remember the Saying, Though:
🙉 HEAR NO EVIL - Deaf Child
🙈 SEE NO EVIL - Blind Child
🙊 SPEAK NO EVIL - Mute Child
👣 FOLLOW NO EVIL - Disabled Child
😒....👤
How fortunate for all of them
Wow...this has me in deep thought 💭!
Oh shit
Overthinking
@@demontefoxx8143 Ok, then it's just a Story to You.😕😏
Imagine, a story about a dude leading children away from their parents and homes with a magic pipe having a creepy backstory
Asian AND Latina??? 😍 God damn do you have a snap? Lol
Hey little boy
Wanna see magic
COME INTO MY HIDEY HOLE
*MUSIC NOISE*
You are cute asf
What? He has candy. Don't you trust a guy with CANDY?!
😭😭😭
Okay but that kid that ran home to get a coat and missed everything is literally me ☠️
Fr tho
"Grew up to be kind-hearted adults with terrible teeth and type 2 diabetes. They lived in candyland ya'll. I don't know what else would you expect." That part made me nearly choke on my water.
Diabeetus
R. Kelly calls himself “The Pied Piper of R&B”. Think about that.
mincy poo Are you sure it’s not “The Peed Piper”? Sorry... that was bad...
It's sad that he acually calls himself that 🤦🏿♂️
i came here to say exactly what you said!
And he pees on underage girls. He's a creepy guy.
Yet people still buy his music and go to his concerts. 😔
The version I read was different from all of these. The town's people were all greedy, but the mayor still promised a reward for anyone who could rid them of the rats. One resident actually knew the piper and sent him a letter for help. The next day, he arrived in town and hypnotized the rats, leading them to a river where they all drowned. Upon returning to the town though, they only gave him one gold coin instead of the promised 90 silver coins and 9 gold ones. He shamed the people for being greedy and led the children away right that second, instead of waiting for all the adults to leave. They followed him and were hidden as the piper went back to the town. By the time he got back, the town's people had learned their lesson and payed the piper in full. The piper actually returned the children in this version, and the greedy town of Hamelin turned into a town of generosity and hospitality.
Probably the original is he downed the kids…
And my theory he was wo send the rats too feom the start…
In 1967, the Pied Piper was reincarnated into an actual human form. His name was Robert Sylvester Kelly.. He has been playing music, and taking away teenage girls to his village never to be seen again.
This
Kayla Richardson facts 🤦🏽♀️🤣😂
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I wonder if he name or persona was given to him by Hollyweird..
False. The Pope has him beat a hundred fold.
I remember as a little girl, this story made me feel very uncomfortable.
Me too ..
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Lol I’m yeah, Im uncomfortable now.. im 10
Yuki James
Who isn’t?
Yuki James bruh this is 2019 anyone can be on youtube
I once heard a twisted version where the pied piper wanted a place in the town or something and what happened was when he led the rats elsewhere, and came back waiting for his prize, the townspeople didn’t give it to him, so, in front of the townspeople, he led the children of the town off the edge of a cliff. It’s really freaking twisted, but that’s a version I’ve heard.
It was made into a cartoon but he took the kids to heaven all except one who was wheel chair bound.
Me too
Despite the alteration it's still pretty messed up.
Kind of like Satan
I thought that in the original tale the piper drowned the kids in a river like he did with the rats before watching this video and seeing no mention of that, now I'm not sure there even is a version like the one I described but I wouldn't be surprised if there was.
Disney has some creepy themes
Netitia Henry he was a creep and 33rd mason himself so of course
Taryn tooHonest like how did they decide this should be a children's book? Kids kidnapped never to be seen again should never be a story a young child should read. It didn't sit well with me at 7 when I read ut
they all had hidden meanings to keep us 'aware'. but honestly just confusing and your right creepy. lol
Disney has nothing but more or less creepy stories...
They turn horror stories into kids movies
To all those people who laugh at the idea of a magic flute luring children away, remember when this story is set, they don't have radio, TV, Etc. A minstrel would have been a big deal back then, kids would have flocked to see what was happening and to hear the music. But I think the last idea was more likely.
@PUBG TEAM No Sleep I don't know how you got lost in what George said. But, he didn't mention not in damn thing about the situation of r.kelly. He's actually talking about the story that Jon just explained. That children could have been mesmerized by the idea of something new and wanting to hear it, and wanting to follow him.
great observation mr. morgan.
Because that doesn't explain why the rats would follow him 😛
I think also it could've been someone the children trusted, and spent time with daily & the pipe could have been a dog whistle. Some degree of deafness was a very common ailment in the middle ages. Especially since they never treated ear infections, and when they did it was with pouring breast milk, coriander, and other odd concoctions down the person's ear. It could've been an earlier version of today's dog whistles. It was common for rat catchers to train animals to kill rats. It wouldn't be unusual for that person to have a whistle like that.
I always heard that the origins of this story was the “children’s crusade” when there were a group of children led off to fight in the crusades.
Ada Miller heard that too
Same here, then to slavery in Constantinople.
Joe Browning II terrible! ☹️
@@adamiller2526 most in the children's crusade were. It was a scam.
That's also a possibility. Elsewhere have mentioned a ghost story from my great grandmother's family about a bar of light. In any case , the path way they walked where the family encountered the light, was a path actually used during the Childrens Crusade.Took place near Gambach, Bavaria. Hard to really say what happend to these children.
All the theories are equally horrifying, but the fact that R. Kelly openly refers to himself as The Pied Piper Of R&B says it all.
🤮
FACTSS
What😃
@@drawingdorituhe molested a bunch of teenage girls
My pastors ex wife referred to her oldest son as the pipe piper 😐🙄😬
On R. Kelly's song, "STEP IN THE NAME OF LOVE." there is a FLUTE SOLO in the beginning and I can't help but to start dancing.
Baltimore TURK , Omg, you’re right!! I just listened to it to hear if I could catch it. Wow never noticed it before. I never liked that particular song by him, and I’m not gonna lie about liking most of his other music because I did. But anyway, like you said, one can’t help but to move to it... Nice observation.
The piper also got all the KIDS to follow him...
This theory can go sooooo many ways...
"It's the Pied Piper of R&B. Anything you need, just come to Daddy." 😳
He started calling himself the pied piper because he started using the flute sound in his music
I was brought up on the version that the pied piper led the children into the river, like the rats, and drowned. And to be honest, both is terrifying and why I will never follow a stranger no matter how charming or how musically talented he may be. XD
The sad thing is that whenever he shows the pied piper playing the flute I hear step in the name of love by r Kelly
Seems legit.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 facts
Damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whelp
😂😂😂😂🤣
I love how he tells jokes but never smiles or laughs!! It makes it funnier!!
It is called dry wit.
Oh Silly Symphony... My childhood. I distinctly remember the wolf in the Three Little Pigs dressing up as a mermaid.
I had a couple of those on tape when I was a kid.
Me and my little sister always laugh of that scene
hello how are you? (yes I played on your name xD) they were my sunrise days...
Ken Hollis me too!! Now I've no idea what happened to them.
Imalms oh I should show that to my sister! Show her what I had for entertainment than her endless music.ally's etc. Honestly Silly Symphony is better ;}
I lived in Germany from 1978 to 1984. I was told there is another story behind the Pied Piper: The Bubonic plague that killed 130 citizens in the small town of Hamlin in 1284. As the story goes, people were very superstitious of cats at that time. They believed witches used cats as their familiars, or imbodied cats to secretly put curses on people around them. So, they gathered every cat they could find and killed them. Without the cat population to eat the mice, the mice population grew. The mice had fleas, which are carriers of the bubonic plague still today. When the fleas bit people, they got sick and died. The ones who the fleas had no effect on, were people who worked closely with horses. Mice fleas avoid the scent of horses, thus only they and their households survived. In this story, the Pied Piper is death, the children are the village citizens that death took with him. That year Death (The Pied Piper) came twice: First for the cats, which are the natural rat killers, then for the citizens.
Now this is plausible!
Crazy how religious superstitions always bring doom and tragedie
I looked it up and yeah, this story is in fact where the saying "pay the piper" came from. I had never realized that either until you mentioned it.
you are right my mom used to tell me all the time 'you always pay the piper even tho you didn't like the song ' i asked mom where she got that saying and she told me about the pied piper really creepy story
I’ve heard a different version.
The Pied Piper was Satan or at least a representative of him. He came to a town that was suffering,and offered his “services”. He made a deal with the towns leaders to rid them of the plagued rats who were spreading disease and overtaking the towns food storage. Starving and sick,they were desperate. Obviously,he wanted their souls,and they,facing certain death,reluctantly agreed for the sake of the townspeople. He then led the rats away with a high pitched instrument,much like a dog whistle that only the rats could hear,that drove the rats AWAY... and no one else in the town knew. The rats didn’t FOLLOW him. He chased them out.
When he returned to collect,the leaders suddenly were overcome with fear and regret. They begged and pleaded for a new deal. He replied,”The only thing that I will accept is a sacrifice of great worth in your place...your children.” They,overcome with fear,selfishness,and self preservation agreed.
While the townspeople were at church,the leaders gathered the towns children,and brought them to him. He led them away,to an obviously gruesome fate. When the townspeople returned home,they were horrified to see their children missing. When they asked the town leaders what had happened,they made up the Pied Piper story to deflect blame from themselves.
Ironically enough,by sacrificing their own innocent children in their place,the towns leaders had unknowingly forfeited their souls to Satan anyway. When they went to Hell,Satan told them that it was he who brought the plague of rats to their town in the first place. Instead of turning to God like the children’s parents were doing in church,they turned to their own wicked schemes and brought suffering on many....including eternal suffering to themselves.
The only “happy ending” to the tale is that none of the children,though surely dying in unspeakable ways,went to Hell. They were innocent and Satan had no eternal hold on them. Sadly,if the leaders would’ve simply joined in with the rest of the townspeople in church to pray,Satan would’ve fled,and God would’ve commanded the rats to leave. The crops would return,and sicknesses healed. If not for the wickedness,schemings, and lack of faith of the few leaders,the suffering of the many could’ve been completely avoided......
This is an underrated comment. Thanks for sharing the story bro
interesting man
Of all comments this one seems the most logical
Thank you
@@queserasera1674 I guess your grandma shouldn't have gotten the polio vaccine either. Bye bye grandma
Will we ever get a *”Messed Up Origins Of; Jon Solo”* the man himself? Lol
Emily Oberg wonder what he's truely hiding😑😑😑
Lmao someday ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The “VERY messed up Origins of Jon Solo.
The VERY VERY VERY EXTREMELY messed up origins
Emily Oberg I'm here for it :)
I'm German and "das Rattenfänger" is grammatically incorrect. It must be "der Rattenfänger" like you wouldn't say "Las Angelos", "Los Vegas" or "El Casa".
Ich wollte was ähnliches kommentieren, aber dank dir muss ich das nicht xD
Danke! Hab genau das gleiche gedacht, als er es gesagt hat XD
wollte mich auch schon einmischen :))
Das hat mich so hart getriggert😂😂😂
i was ready to throw hands when he said that-
Crazy how it's talking about how it's been so many years after their kids left and parents didn't start really taking notice until so many started disappearing. Just reminds me of the whole R Kelly situation, how no one barely even blinked an eye, or either turned a blind eye to him and Aaliyah being together. He already has all these allegations against him and has for years. More girls get involved then NOW, people are taking notice, protesting, and talking about how long it's been since they've seen their child and yada yada.
R. Kelly also calls himself the Pied Piper of R&B. FACTS, look it up.
@@charlesnelson9560 I know man. Crazy how this all played out. It's just so accurate which is why it's so creepy.
Its just so creepy how things actually played out
If this was real then damn. I wonder how many trial and error he had to do to get it to work.
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shadow759 Eyyy. I didn't expect to see you here.
shadow759 I didn't expect to see you in the comment section
shadow759 didn't expect you to be here
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Ok but the kid who went back because he forgot his coat and it was cold was relatable af
Even deeper. According to William Manchesters book, A World Lit Only By Fire, on page 66 he describes the pied piper as a real person. On 20 June 1484 he led 130 children from the village and used them in unspeakable ways and mudered them. Their dismembered remains were found scattered around the forest and hanging from tree branchs, creepy stuff.
Shouldn't it be 1284?
I always wondered if there was a morbid/dark version of this story.
There are many tales of it
Hi Sean -- Manchester apparently made that story up whole cloth. There's no historical evidence for what he describes and his telling of the fate of the children appears only in his book. That said, the book is a damned good read and is worth the time of anyone interested the history of the Middle Ages.
@@MikeJBeebe Awesome, thanks
Jon Solo: What if I told you that the "Pied Piper" was a real thing?
Me: Of course he was, Jon! Have you seen LovelyTi's videos on R Kelly?
Jokes aside, I wasn't introduced to the Pied Piper through Disney. I was introduced to it through the Peanuts' take on it, "It's the Pied Piper, Charlie Brown".
Jennea Coleman-Cubero 🤣🤣 I love when Ti has the tap dancing flautist!
Katheryne Michelle That flautist is awesome!!
I love when she has that flautist shown! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jane Staton Who doesn't?
Jennea Coleman-Cubero lol pissy pied piper
There’s this show on Netflix called The Society, which is honestly a modern day version
Daniel J yup great show
Shiii now I have to definitely watch it
And it got canceled :/
Wait I haven’t seen it but know a bit about it. How is it a retelling of the pied piper?
What I love about the pied piper is that it's real and isn't really a story. It's one line that someone actually wrote in the town's chronicles, "It's been 100 years since our children left." But there isn't anything else. I'm assuming that whatever happened they thought it was true.
Perhaps plague or disease? It dies involve rats
kinderkreuzzug possibly
(childrens crusade. messed up shit btw)
jon solo... messing up childhoods since 2017 😂😂 jk i love this series
micah lowhoy ITS TRU THO. but the series is great
micah lowhoy lol well you are right hahaha.
Have u seen game theory if, matpat and jon will work together theyll destroy everyones childhood
Him and game theory were be best friends are ruined childhood
This is most definitely a true story that happened because in Hamln til this day, people aren't allowed to play music in the streets.
You should do a messed up origins for the snow queen
The Firegod, yeah sorry I meant frozen, but its only loosely based on the snow queen
She’s malevolent in that right?
Iva Hall he should do both
I mean she wasn't really a villain in the original story if I remember right
The snow queen was a great story...
It is possible that there could have been a piper of some sort that kidnapped 130 children. Maybe not through magic, but through music. Music was popular at the time and if the children heard it, with their parents gone, they could have been curious and led away. It’s like how children are led away by strangers. Strangers aren’t going to kidnap children by revealing their intentions. They will offer candy and look friendly with how they talk. Children will trust and follow them. I have no doubt this is probably what happened, if this tale is true.
I Have Seen A Mighty Mouse Cartoon Where The Wolves Had One Of Them Dress Up As Lil' Bo Peep And Played A Jazz Trumpet To Lure Some Sheep.
A top theory is a Herald with pipes or a horn was with the kings immigration recruiter who took 130 volunteer and conscripted colonist to land captured after the christian crusades against the eastern pagans
I went to highschool there in the mid 1990's. The people there really believe it happened. Many but ldings of the era still exist. They have a flutists dressed in a wild outfit lead tourist around the city. The actual documents show the loss of the children. The mountain & the cave is there. My closest friend lived on the mountain. It is considered historical fact in this town. The town hall in the photo is still there in the center of town
Somehow the facts behind the story make it creepy AF.
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It's "Der Rattenfänger."
I know our articles are very confusing. :/ I'm no linguist, but let me try to explain it.
Germans use gendered articles and all our words are sorted into such. *"Der", "Die"* and *"Das."*
*- Die =* female or plural for groups.
Like in "Die Frau" (the woman) or "Die Frauen/Die Männer" (The women/ The Men).
While "Die Gruppe" (the group) is also female. But only if you start the sentence with this word.
"Die Gruppe ist in der Kneipe." (The group is in the pub.)
*- Der =* male.
As in "Der Mann" (The man).
When you're part of a group or describe something IN the group it's "Der".
... germans have to make everything complicated. _>
Thank you for the explanation! I've seen about twenty "it's *der* rattenfanger dumbass" comments but no one's taken the time to break down the correction to me lol. Appreciate it :)
No problem Jon. :)
German is a mean language.
I mean, how should you know if nobody explained it to you.
And thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them.
Nilas JunkYard nicely put TIL!
@@NilasJunkyard
Damn, now I saw, that I wrote the same thing, but later and not quite as good as you... This really sucks. 😂
@Glumbi Grashalm
Hey, it's okay :D
Usually happens to me all the time.
I will never understand people who can clearly see dozens of comments saying the EXACT same thing they were about to contribute and then still add the same comment. Guys, we KNOW that the R Kelly documentary ignited your interest. We don't need 100 ppl to all say that in succession .
Is it really that hard for u to imagine that some if not most people comment before looking at comments or dont even look at comments at all? Most ppl aint bout this yt life dawg
Thank you OJay88
OJay88 this in succession
OJay88 right? Get off the damn bandwagon already🤦🏻♀️
If people didn't do that there wouldn't be a comment section 😂.
"das Rattenfänger
OW THE GERMAN IN ME JUST GOT SEVERELY INJURED!
That diabetes pic I'm dead. That guy used to say diabetes so weird in the commercials 😂
Arah Davis Diabetuss
Arah Davis
My name is Wilford Brimley and I have an unquenchable thirst for power.
Arah Davis He was a fantastic actor named Wilford Brimley.
I’m here from the R. Kelly story.. this some crazy shit
Me too
Same
Factz
Yep
Lolol
...so, i'm the only one who came from Shrek: Forever After?
Nope
Nope
i came LMAO
No I’m here
I'm here because of a Jethro Tull song.
Hmmm, actually, generally because of figures who play flute.
The moral of the story always play your debts, keep your promises and for God's sake don't trust a stranger with a freaking magic flute.
Even If He Does Go Into The Exterminator Business?
@@curtisdavis2891 yes, especially then because they'll Exterminate you and everyone you love.
Well, the guy with the magic flute can be trusted ... as long as you pay him what you promised.
If YOU are not to be trusted, neither is he.
@@RubberyCat True but to be fair I said that in my comment "always play your debts, keep your promises" but I would be somewhat wary of a stranger with a magic flute and probably wouldn't trust them completely
Ally kat but but but he play my favorite song
Happy birthday
The kid that ran to get a coat and came back and everyone is gone and everything's gone... hahahaha... but that's honestly some ish that I'd do...
the lyric "it may be a little dangerous" has a whole new meaning now '_'
It’s actually „Der Rattenfänger“. That’s actually funny, because I‘m from Germany and always thought that the English version was called „rat catcher“ too. And I never found the English version xD
Newday Samebathtub Haha 😂 geht mir genauso.
Die Deutschen sind verrückt.
first, it's ,,Die Deutschen," second, I'm not crazy :(
Der Rattenfänger hat mich als Kind so verstört!
Ich bin mir nicht sicher aber gibt's zum Rattenfänger nicht auch ein Lied oder denk ich grad an was anderes?
"Just like the Peid Piper
Led rats through the streets
We dance like marionettes
Swaying to the symphony of
Destruction"
Nice video!
Id like to add a viewpoint. Usually folklore & mythology have basis in real world events and are explained in story form to help more ppl understand it. This is leaning more towards the emigration view of this story. Possibly, the pied piper could be another country (Transylvania, Prussia, etc) with multi-colored attractions (jobs, alternate lifestyles) that lured the children (towns people) away.
Wow, I never knew the origin of the story. Your last theory just brought the whole buzz around surviving r Kelly full circle for me. Thank you
“Where the rat problem has gotten out of control, these nasty creatures...”
*me looks at my rat Lola*
“You’re not nasty baby, you’re a blessing”
Love ur videos and ur so underrated
Everyone who came here after 'Surviving R. Kelly' stand up!!!
🙋🏾♀️
Inwas looking for this comment!!
Present
Exactly! Learning something new everyday..very interesting though..lol
Omg
I once read that it may have been related to the infamous "Children's Crusade."
I am here now after watching #survingrkelly 😭 this is so disgusting. He called himself the pied piper.. how did he get away with it for so long. He was shoving it in our faces. All his songs, lyrics, nicknames. This information hurts me a lot more than I expected it to. Thanks for the video!
He never hid it calling himself the Pied Piper so blantant he believes he untouchable
God is able and R Kelly and those around him who enable will pay for all the hurt he has caused for so many lives.I feel bad for all involved and will pray for them healing and restoration esp for those girls still trapped and for them to be reunited with their families and loved ones
So disappointing to see his secret evil lifestyle. I went to his concert a few years ago with no idea he had kids locked up in his mansion...That makes me wanna vomit
Candy Apple Hiding in Plain Sight 👁
i dont think he hid anything. i mean aliyah's album was called "age aint nothing but a number" and you can clearly see R kelly in the bakcground. and plus he was peeing on people wayyy before peeing on people was cool.
In some version of the story, a friendship of the piper and the crippled kid is vitally important to the tale. The irony of the crippled boy, previously the piper's only friend (maybe an exaggeration, but that's how the story was told), being the only one who was left behind, was a big part of the story, as I heard it.
Lol one rat was deaf so it didn’t drown
*all the rats*
"WHOA THIS TUNE IS SO G- BARARAGUHAURHAAHRRBLRBRLBRL!!"
*DeafMaus*
"Wut?"
I had gone on a tour of Europe and we actually went to Hamlin, and it was insane on how many things they had relating to the pied piper, including plays, musicals, and a bell show connected to the church
Rats: *CHEESE*
People: Uh, what?
Rats: *CHEESE, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!*
Pied Piper: *Well yes, but actually no*
R Kelly calls himself the pied Piper 😂
Yet people still buy his music and go to his concerts. 😔
enathanielg cause he rapes children
Now it explains why bts said “Follow the sound of my flute” in their song called Pied piper
@@romana9283 and when hobi said "guilty pleasure you can't escape, never" representing the rats and children being so intrigued and hypnotized by his music not getting enough of it until they die
Yea this is why I’m watching this
ikr?! i feel dumb cuz i didn't make the connection back when i saw the crypt fables one 🤦♀️
This is why I am watching this , their song!!
@@aprillynx_ that deep and soo true!
I love how he's talking about the piper leading children to a mountain while wearing a shirt that says "Mountain Destination"
I need a whole video of just theories on this. I honestly think that it did happen and happened exactly as it said but instead of the pipe being magically, the kids just liked the tune of the song he was playing and decided to follow him because if It was magical they wouldn't be able to snap out of It and go grab their coat and the blind kid would still be in a trance so his mind would be souly focused on following that music.
Happy now TH-cam? I watched it now leave me alone
GrandMaster Goof Same. That’s why I’m here 😹.
🤣😂
Thank you
😂 Exactly, TH-cam kept recommending it
Sad is it keeps recommending it after u watch it
JON: "...instead of attracting rats, this time he attracted a swarm of bees which proceeding to sting him until he died."
ME: ...HUH?
JON: "I'm just kidding. I just want to make sure you were paying attention."
ME: Oh, I am paying attention alright *laugh*
Native German here. It's "Der Rattenfänger", not "Das Rattenfänger".
Otherwise nice video.
DANKE!
German native backing you up. Also, the town "Hammeln" would be pronounced like "Huh-meln"
@@allesneumachtdermai8212 he could just be pronouncing the english name for the town, "Hamelin"
"im takin over you~" Pied piper : Bts
So I’m not the only one 😭✨
@@zahrakazmi3870 ummm ofc
Pied piper bts was very lit it made me fall alseep everytime i listen it
I was looking for this comment 😂😂
LOL
The fourth kid, did nothing but get cold.
Did anyone else think of the Children's Crusade? Also happens to be one of the creepiest crusades in terms of what (allegedly) happened to the children.
Nope you are not the first to postulate that it may be referring to the Children's Crusade. More then a few scholars have suggested it might be the origins. It makes sense.
That was the hypothesis that was postulated during my time in school. Stephen's Children's Crusade. John's explaining a modern hypothesis.
They got murdered
It was also not an official Cruade as the Pope did not sanction it. In fact, he condemned it.
Omg I just posted the same thing
Your background music really is a whole bop. I catch myself dancing while listening lol
Why dislike a video for which a person had worked hard to gather the info and present it before us in the most suitable way
Welcome back, Jon. I hope you enjoyed your vacation.
You mentioned a Pagan connection with the Pied Piper. I once read a theory that the story may have been influenced by the Greek god Apollo, who, as a god of healing, was said to lure away rats, as they spread disease.
Ken Hollis have I found another Greek geek?
@@stink6394 Not exactly. I actually honor some Greek gods.
The crusades against the east Germanic and Slavic pagans meant newly captured land for the christian Germans to colonize
"Follow the sound of the flute, follow this song it my be a little dangerous but I'm very sweet" I'm sorry I had to.
For all the ARMY you know the song 😉
Lydia Scarlet 😉☝️💜
Lydia Scarlet ARMYYYYYYYYYYYY❤️❤️❤️💜💜💜
YES YES YES AYEEEE
AYEEEE I LOVE YOU OMG
Uggh I can't lol
I'm really surprised as I had heard of the dc villain ratcatcher from batman arkham asylum as a comic character entry. Didn't realise he was actually inspired by the pied piper/rat catcher until you mentioned the second name. Makes sense since many of batman's comic villains are inspired by stories. Very cool Jon.
The truth is that Lucifer (Satan) was created with tabrets (percussion) and PIPES within him (Ezekiel 28:13-19 King James Version) as well as "viols" or stringed instruments (Isaiah 14:9-20 King James Version). Music was created by God for us to worship Him. This is why we are so impressionable by music and animals are not. Its not a mythical character that steals children. Its the fallen one who uses what was created within him against the Most High God to steal children from the salvation that is in Christ Jesus. The devils revenge.
My question to you is:
What music has the Pied Piper played for you?
Obey the Gospel and be saved from this world soon to be judged. Acts 2:37-39.
Amen
Wow approved
In Jesus name, Amen
HAHAHA! Opens with "The truth is ...", then references the Bible.
Just like that Katy Perry song, "Chained to the rhythm"...
Omg The Pied Piper led the children to Candy Land, and R. Kelly leads them to "The Chocolate Factory", coincidentally the name of one of his albums...
And the tune he played is snake lmfao
@@ScroogeyTheGod ...which is why I said "coincidentally". Smh
Crazy ain't it
And he had had an album called Loveland that was supposed to come out before Chocolate Factory.. But they had to shelve it because of the trial
@@darnellthomas4747 Gross is more like it lol
When I was in 6th grade I had to re-write the Pied Piper from one of the children’s point of view. And I’ve never even heard of this story before.
Since I didn’t know about it, I asked my dad and he told me that it’s about a guy who gets paid to kill rats.
And after I heard that I was annoyed how I got a really boring story to re-write.
But my teacher gave me the real book story and all I can say is... that really ruined me
That's funny, I never heard of the piper getting locked out then taking the kids to candy land and the rats to cheese. I only had heard of the piper taking the rats to the river where they drown and the children away to the river to drown.
The type 2 diabetes joke made me laugh way too hard
Just a little nitpicking here: it's really "Der" Rattenfänger. "Das" is a neutral article, while "Rattenfänger" (rat catcher) is a male noun. And bcs the article always has the same gender as the noun it refers to, it's "Der Rattenfänger". Otherwise great video, keep it up =)
@Elijah Falvey well I grew up in germany and never heard anyone saying "Das Rattenfänger" cause... that is simply wrong. And I also don't think that the language was different back then. It could be possible that "Das" was used by non german speakers. But I highly doubt that any german person would say "Das Rattenfänger" anyways, you might still be right. But well, when you look up the story the first things popping up say "Der Rattenfänger"
@@straci7823 Well it was in the 1200s so the language was definitely different back then
@Elijah Falvey go away. You probably don’t even know the language.
@@angelicart.6 Damn. That's mean 😅
@@ariahjames4340 and so?
Love the “once upon a time” rendition of the pied piper
Gonna have to rewatch am drawing a total blank on pied piper
I don't remember either... I remember some of the similar-ish Grimm episode though... loved it.
it's "der Rattenfänger" not "das rattenfänger" because german has three different translation of "the" which explain the "gender" of the word. Easier said in german a word can be male, female or neutral. The word "rattenfänger" has two different parts put togheter to one word "rat" and "catcher" while rat is a female word in german and catcher is a male word the new founded word always has the same type as the last word what makes "Ratcatcher" a male word.
Why google said it's a neutral word leaves me clueless but that's not a big problem. In general I just want to make sure that a missinformation won't lead to more missinformation and stuff :D
But the video was really nice researched.
Ich nehme mal an, du bist Deutsche/r, also hier eine Antwort auf deutsch: ich freue mich sehr, dass du die Grammatik erklärt hast. Korrigieren können (und machen) viele und manchmal habe ich den Eindruck kaum jemand weiß überhaupt, welche grammatikalische Regel dahinter steckt. 👍
Yikes…. R. Kelly used to call himself the Pied Piper in his music lyrics 🤐
Look at how kids are lead to drugs, clubs and gangs through music. Music has real power.
Truth Saved ok boomer
Its not about the music, music has nothing to do about those, its the kids/teenagers fault because listening to music cannot lead u to those things its the person's mind on how they take the music and on how they will use it in life
Your a boomer he’s a boomer I’m a boomer we’re all got damn boomers lmao your PARENTS boomer powder fell upon you 😂 we all have boomer style in us because our parents or grand parents raised us with their boomer brains you boomer
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@@nix1355 well its hard to say its the kids fault, our brain grows and mature gradually so...
r kelly is the pide piper of rnb
Yet people still buy his music and go to his concerts. 😔
That was actually a self appointed title. But I like how you made it sound like you made up a joke.
Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Kevin Spacey and Brian Singer are all pied pipers too.
@@TheeKingRayzor damn you on every post, long as you don't listen too him that's all that matters..
@@04ohgolly1 Thank You Kind Sir! 😁👍
Used this to research a writing project and it's been one of the most thorough videos I've found. Thank you! subbed
The Disney one made me mad😂"All you did was play the flu-"
*WELL, CAN YOU DO IT!? WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT, THEN!? (Silence) EXACTLY! NOW, GIMME MAH MONIES!*
I'm so happy you made a video i had so much fun watching it i can't wait to the next one
I cannot express how much I thoroughly enjoy your videos! Thank you for all you do.
Rkelly called himself “ The Pied Piper of R&B “ for a reason. 👀
Great video, very interesting! 👍
BTW it's "Der Rattenfänger (von Hameln)" in german. ;) Greetings from germany!
Greetings my German friend!
The pied piper story always reminds of another story that takes place with a man and his old mother. I think it comes from China but here goes. After a perivous king dies his son takes over and is unhappy with the old people in his kingdom because he thinks all the do is take up space and can't work as hard as younger stronger people. So he decrees that anyone over 71 years of age must be taken into the mountains and left to die and anybody who does not do so will be put to death. So the citizens so this though that aren't happy about it. Well a year or so later a mans mother hit that magic number of 71 and he knew that he must do so. There's a town record and everyone knows his mother is 71 now. So he puts his mother in his back as she could not walk well and heads towards the mountains. As he is walking he keeps hearing the snapping of twings and ask his mother what it is and she tell him that she is marking a path so he will not get lost on his way back after he leads her to die. This act make steh man cry and he can't bear o leave his mother there so after dark he sneaks her back home and hides her in a secret room under his house. A few days later a king form another land come to take over this one but he tell the king that if he can supply him with what he ask fro for 2 days he will leave and go somewhere else. The first thing he ask for is a drum that beats itself. So the king goes to the wise men but because they are young that have no answers so he sends criers to town promising gold for anyone who came bring him a drum that beast itself. So that night the man goes to his mother tell her of the news of the day as he had been doing and she laughs when he mentions the drum that can beat itself. When he asks why that is funny she explain making on is simple. All he must do is make drum with one side and lace the inside a sweet substance to attract some bees. While the bees are inside he must seal the other side. The bees will bang into the sides trying to get out and it will seems as if the drum beast itself. So the man does as his mother instructs and takes the new drum to the castle and the young king is ecstatic thanks the man with his bag of gold and presents it to the dictator who isn't actually very happy as he knows the land is filled with riches to be plundered so he gives the next request of ten lengths of ropes made form ash thinking there is no possible way he can give him that. So the king ask his wise men but again they have no clue so she sends the criers out again promising that anyone who brings him the ask ropes will grant him one request of his desire. Again as the man tell his mother she chuckles to herself. "Our young king is certainly in trouble." she says. So the man ask if it is even possible. She tell him it is that he musk soak the rope in something and when he burn they they will not burn but that they will look as if made form ash. It is at this point I forget what he is supposed to soak them in. So forgive me. Anyway he does o and again takes them to the king who in turn presents them to the dictator who is enraged that he must leave. The king asks him what he would like. Money? women? to be made a lord? But the man shakes his head and says all he wants is his mother. So the king says alright when she turns 71 you don't have to take her to the mountains. He replies "No you don"t understand she already that but I couldn't leave her in the mountains to die. It was her who told me how to make those things." IT was then that the king understood older peopel might not be able to work as hard but they have experience in life and may know something a younger generations does not. I think in the end he retracted the decree. also it might have been 3 things but again things get a little foggy as this was something i read way back in high school in like tenth grade. But The piped piper reminds me of it. It is also a shining example of why we should listen to our elders. Thought you mind have found it interesting I hope someone did. Sry it was so long.
TheCrazyNekoGirl2123 thank you for this i really liked it you should tell stoties more often
well your are very welcome I am very glad you enjoyed it. that was just one story I remebered reading way back in high school I know some celtic myths like the story about Rhiannon/Epona the horse goddess not the Epona from zelda lol. I love Mythology and fairy tales because they often have something to teach or a moral like in Cinderella you could say that beauty lies within. Just to prove a point I will explain what mean by that. Cinderella spelt in the cinders her name wasn't really Cinderella. maybe it was Ella but we aren't told that. Now most people would see girl who might be pretty if she washed with out knowing she sleeps there to stay warm at night. I sure she has blanket and maybe a pillow if she lucky but when you are one the floro that is where all the could air is so it feels much colder then in actually is. Like in summer when it get so hot transistors blow and you low power for a time because they are up high where the warmer air is. She was lucky enough to have a being that watched over her and when they really needed them after being treated so badly and denied something she was promised that she wished so hard the fairy godmother was able to come in to being to give her a very special gift. But as we know all good things must end and is another lesson is teaches. Good things must end so even better things can happen. She gets to marry the prince and become a princess for example something her stepsisters desperately wanted but didn't deserve they wanted it so badly as Jon put in another video one cut off her toes the other hacked off the back of her heel. Sorry for being gruesome there but that s the true story. I am gald you enjoyed my story though and if i can think of anymore obsuce one maybe I'll make my on video heck maybe will look this one up and tell it myself. It'll only be my voice as I am not that great with making slideshows and don't feel comfortable showing my face yet all i have on my channel right now is some lets play videos I did but they aren't great. Again glad you enjoyed it and sorry for long post ^_^; peace you you and yours and may light shine of you and your family.
TheCrazyNekoGirl2123 💖 you just got a new friend
So I see. Thank you for the sub very very much hopefully I will be putting up videos soon but have some personal things going on right now and that takes priority. I sure you understand that. She may just be a cat but she is my cat to give you a idea of what I am dealing with. I just hope it isn't more serious than i am thinking so any positive thoughts sent my way are very much apprenticed. Keep and eye to twitter @CrazyNeko8 I always post videos updates there feel free to leave me a comment if you like I try to always replay to them and love getting new ones. Have great day/week and hope to get video up very soon I think i might do the story in video I just gotta look up details i wanna do a good job!
TheCrazyNekoGirl2123 Wow i read that whole entire thing.
I like that story.
Ok, I just have to point out a hilarious coincidence.
So, I was listening to this outside, getting feed for my horse, the usual thing, as as you said "a swarm of bees" exactly then a bee started buzzing all over my phone, which I was playing the video on.
I just find it hilarious.
The r Kelly scandal brought me here
Then you're an idiot
@@GraceLeo-mc4rr and you're a bitch.
@@DerpDerp27 I guess you ought to know who's a bitch?? 🤔
R Kelly ALWAYS referred to himself as the pied piper.Now we know why.
Stumbled across this video and I was stunned! Good job, keep up the good work! There is also another very interesting fact about the Rat-Catcher of Hameln (or Hamelin, as I have sometimes seen). A part of my family "originates" from Romania and actually they came there in the 16th century from southern Germany. They were recruited as they were probably lower nobility to supervise a progress of setteling down in the lower Danube area in Hungary and Romania (my family does not really have much records from that time, just stories passed down and fragments of town history where they used to live so everything is kind of blurry). After WW II they emigrated back to the southern regions of Germany again (in the area my family lived German or at least some form of German was commonly spoken, more like an own language as the Amish German people speak than the usual high German probably due to the language development over centuries afar from actual Germany).
BUT in the town where I live now there have been (and this is proven fact) a lot of crusaders coming through and by the 12th century they started recruiting children to come to the so called holy land. Those child-crusades never really went to Jerusalem or at least most of the recruited children were either sold on slave markets or simply died on the almost yearlong journey, so they have developed a simplyfied form of the tale that is commonly known as the rat-catcher of Hameln. You want to be a rat and blindly follow, go and die so to say…
tl; dr:
It is really really cool to hear research about that topic. IMHO I think that there are more factors about this that lead to the story we know today. Probably all of them have some truth to it!
Anyways very nice channel! Keep up the good work!
In Victorian times, children were recruited to work in mines because they could work in tight spaces, Is it possible that someone abducted children to work as slave labor in mines? Such a theory would explain the "disappearing into the Mountain" aspect of the story? There have been, over the years, disasters that wiped out a certain portion of an area's children. In Wales, the Aberfan disaster buried the village school in tons of coal slag. With 116 children killed, a large portion of the village's children were victims. Also, rats carry disease. It is possible a hantavirus wiped out all the children of the village? For there to be 130 children, the overall population of the village would have to be at least 500-600. What German villages in the area had that dense a population during the 13th century?
I just now realized your shirt says Mountain Destination. You know which mountain the kids were in!😉
I smashed the like with all my heart. Good work Jon. Keep it up!
Nathan Bugg I smashed the like WITH my heart