Amazing Sprinter 170” Camper Van for the Whole Family | Storyteller Overland

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  • @jandeep2187
    @jandeep2187 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the 5 seat option!!

  • @Vantravel411
    @Vantravel411 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks great…hard sided pop top, N/S sleeping, 3 pt harness seats, pullout slide, upper storage all are favs…. I’m ready to snag 3 grandkids for a big adventure leaving their parents home! Great design work!

  • @VanDoghies
    @VanDoghies 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's pretty cool that STO is providing larger and family friendly features for couples that may have bought a van and then expanded the family. Very cool storage options in the garage too! We will be sticking with our under 20 foot rig as we love the mobility.

  • @JoseMendoza-gq1bx
    @JoseMendoza-gq1bx 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This van is really well thought out for family trips. Really impressive layout. I do like!

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg5485 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Even though the Sprinter is a better built van, overall, I too prefer the Transit. It's significantly less expensive, easier/cheaper to maintain and has WAY more power/torque.

  • @GTX6446
    @GTX6446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great start. Please, please, and please recommend to STO to consider installing a better AC. This AC (same on the Revel) one of the loudest AC and comes with the most inconsistent thermostat. Also, if this is meant for family, then please make the seating area in the back more relaxing and welcoming. Thank you for the video.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got it!

    • @GTX6446
      @GTX6446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, Joe. One more comment/recommendation to STO. I read many comments about the dislike of the pop-up. I wonder if it’s even necessary if the purpose is to sleep 4. The designated sleeping space in the garage is already meant to be north/south (I’m not sure what is the purpose of the side flares in this case), then why can’t STO think of a more practical and open design for the back, put the main sleeping area on a raise up/lower platform, then make 2 benches on the bottom that will function as a nice seating space during the day and convert to additional sleeping space at night? Lost storage will be compensated under the benches as they will allow. Thank you.

    • @neojipc
      @neojipc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cruise and Comfort FTW!

  • @1911nigel
    @1911nigel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a family of 5 ages 3,4,9 use our airstream daily over the escalade and Lexus trucks. School drop off and trips to beach weekly. Top must haves. 2 separate TV areas with PC options, double charging at each seat, lights at each seat, latch systems for baby seats, microwave up top and switchable isotherm fridges, on road Ac for long trips, passenger side hot and cold water for pet and kids wash off at beach. Batwing awning and side with spotlights and mood lights. Rear air suspension is a must and move the spare from under to the back door..flats do occur on rad trips. Thanks
    5yrs and counting class B 💪

  • @wayneullman5079
    @wayneullman5079 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That hard sided pop up is nice!

  • @MarJay-w5f
    @MarJay-w5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! Perfect for a family of 5! Love it!

  • @brucelester6918
    @brucelester6918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hurry up and get this in production. I want one!

  • @lrobie123
    @lrobie123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even for a lone guy (no crew) this machine would be a beauty. I see many other competitor ideas integrated into one van. It will take some time to integrate all the great recommendations to make this van rock solid

  • @TOFUxCompany
    @TOFUxCompany 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the pop top! It’s perfect for families traveling with kids.

  • @byetinashe
    @byetinashe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no rush at all. make it perfect so it can live forever.

  • @Turbobenz1983
    @Turbobenz1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great looking van! Thanks Joe for giving it a quick tour!

  • @bjorntorsten8241
    @bjorntorsten8241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks cool as is no changes needed - great video 🎉

  • @shawnbrown557
    @shawnbrown557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genius! What a way to bring a couple or some kids along, comfortably. This has me ready to switch STO now.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you currently camp in?

    • @deborah4579
      @deborah4579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Things that make you go hmmm!

  • @ElvisPachi
    @ElvisPachi หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks good for family.

  • @urbanrver3527
    @urbanrver3527 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having cargo for hauling stuff from local places is nice with good sleeping is always good. I like the extra seats but do any make a bed configuration for one person. Looks like it could. Always need a nice bath dry compost is good so you can take out for a roomy shower.

  • @TraderChick
    @TraderChick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome layout for families great job

  • @adventureswithgnomie6553
    @adventureswithgnomie6553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the North South bed. Pop top - extra storage for a couple once parked. This would be great for ski season with the pull out tray. You can take a few friends and there's room to get dressed in layers.

  • @tkasky4144
    @tkasky4144 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome build on a 170 - would be happy to sacrifice some fresh water capacity to add a blank tank to get more than a cassette holds - would allow us to be on the road longer without dumping

  • @brucelester6918
    @brucelester6918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice to have: 50 gallons fresh water with UV & regular filter. Starlink ready.

  • @BillSprague
    @BillSprague 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d love that rig, if they’d make it to sleep two in separate beds with no pop-top. I’m just not in love with pop-tops. Other than that, it’s an amazing looking rig! Thanks guys for the video and commentary. Great job!

  • @driftlessheights6177
    @driftlessheights6177 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That cool rear seat that swivels - who makes that? Looks like what I want for my project.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s proprietary to Storyteller

  • @BradleyFlume
    @BradleyFlume 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! perfect for my family of 5

  • @payleyproductions4587
    @payleyproductions4587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful piece of machinery

  • @samgallant93
    @samgallant93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the great walkthrough on the newest edition to the lineup.

  • @emilyarner8347
    @emilyarner8347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the raw, this is a good start. As a family of 4, I would provide an option for rear lower seating and more room for bike storage. Currently, at most tray will hold 1-2 bikes. Poptop is nice that it is a hardtop. Any thoughts on a Laguna table up front with the seating? Lastly, option to remove additional 2 seats if not all the family is going.

  • @scottthejeepguy7499
    @scottthejeepguy7499 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great walk around, thanks for sharing.

  • @jmh211
    @jmh211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be nice if the bed/table splits into quartets:
    1. all up = queen size
    2. left side up = single
    3. rear left, rear right up = single east/west layout + area in front for working arrangement
    -- this last would be for setting up a bed that doesn't have to be taken down so I can have a work table+seat for the day and just hop over to sleep

  • @04ultraTube
    @04ultraTube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting concept!!

  • @alohatvn
    @alohatvn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the pop-up bed. Overall, the 170 is very nice 👌 👍.

  • @LangSong-h4t
    @LangSong-h4t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really like the design,waiting for it,hope more details come soon, I hope it is four seasons car.

  • @ianpatrick23
    @ianpatrick23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing build

  • @nottiebynature
    @nottiebynature 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great layout for our family + extended family. I would prefer a Ford AWD. That pop-out is huge!

  • @raymondyip8138
    @raymondyip8138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the design! I've been looking for a class B off road capable van for a small family and this looks like a good fit.

  • @drnovo29
    @drnovo29 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the build and coming from a Winnebago solis our family of 4 really loves the pop top. I’d prefer a little more storage in the rear with a drop down Murphy bed similar to the modes

  • @BBQRando
    @BBQRando 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesomeness 👌

  • @hbuzzell
    @hbuzzell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic looking van. I am looking for a van to live in by myself (with a large dog) and this would be great b/c it would also allow me to sometimes have other people with me, but would allow me to have room for my stuff and myself (and large dog). I cannot wait to retire and get me a van!

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best of luck with getting on the road - what an exciting time!

  • @mowensmd
    @mowensmd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Family of 5 here. The seating solution is brilliant. The kitchen should always be on the passenger side, and it's hard to get 3 shoulder seatbelt seats in.

  • @neojipc
    @neojipc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love it if the rear side windows were awning style rather than sliding. More air flow and mitigates the rain problem.

  • @bonniepwtf
    @bonniepwtf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Upper nest is cool 😎

  • @matthewcyahoo
    @matthewcyahoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a start this is good. My beef with the STO 144 was the open bathroom and the short wheelbase. The enclosed bathroom and the updated fridge is also a good start. A real freezer is always good as the little ones don't serve the purpose. The mattress looked a little cheap but its a prototype. Always looking for max water capacity and maybe they can offer the spare tire carrier water tank to up their capacity? Otherwise Storyteller is definitely thinking and I like their innovation... If only the economy was better and interest rates were lower, more units would move. Finally, I would make a version without the tent for couples who travel without kids. The two seats are fine but if its just the two of us then we don't need them. Maybe make another prototype for the empty nesters who want more room and capacity but don't need the extra passenger stuff..

  • @texasjoe9527
    @texasjoe9527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are very few vans out there for families, especially family of 5. This is great!!! I wonder what the cost will be.

  • @deniseihler7963
    @deniseihler7963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice! Being a 144 wb Sprinter owner now (2022 Revel), I have thought a lot about upgrading to a 170 wb. However, on this one there are some things I would change or maybe make suggest a couple layouts be available. While I could see the seating setup working for a family, I wouldn't want those front seats for my travel with my 2 dogs. I'd rather have a comfy lounging area with some seat belts (similar to a regular STO van) where I could put my dogs and have them attached with the seatbelts and for a relaxing area to sit while parked. Also, think a lagoon table up there would be nice. I like that the pop up is hard sided but I'm not a fan of pop ups overall (plus I prefer manual with anything like this because I've had my share of issues with mechanicals) and I didn't hear anything about A/C, just a MaxxAir fan which doesn't work for people with dogs. While I love a table/desk setup in the rear, I don't like the lack of storage. Plus if you do stick some things under the table then where do you put it when you want to use the desk/table? I tend to use my rear garage ALOT. Love the upper storage. Love the big frig. I would not want a dually setup for off road due to big rocks getting stuck between the wheels. That's my 2 cents! Beautiful machine though! Looking forward to what they come up with.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That all makes sense and yes, there is AC that will run off the battery system for 12+ hours and diesel heat/water heater.

  • @Mr.T-
    @Mr.T- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the great video and first look! While I appreciate the latest Mercedes build, I wanted to express my hope that STO will return to building on the Ford Transit platform soon. I understand STO stated that acquiring raw chassis from Ford has been a challenge, and sometimes the builds or engines weren't what you expected. However, other manufacturers are still building on the Ford Transit, and I’m hopeful that they might reconsider. We are planning to purchase a van in 2025, and I'd love to keep STO on our list, but I’m firmly set against buying a Mercedes-Benz. I look forward to seeing future developments!

  • @nat357-36
    @nat357-36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good but far away from perfect. Maybe better setup in the rear as for more open seating and possibly a platform bed. Also, the AC is cheap and loud. Upgrade is a must. Hopefully, the final product is much more practical and convincing considering that STO is not the cheapest option out there.

  • @blakeetterle
    @blakeetterle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where can I buy the tent?

  • @christineglaser472
    @christineglaser472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really love this van! Do the jumpseats fold down to create a bed? Would prefer a sink in the bathroom for brushing teeth, and hand/face washing. Using the kitchen sink for those things is inconvenient, unsanitary, and difficult especially when food prep is going on.

  • @DrMott
    @DrMott 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys are always so interesting but I miss that beautiful dog!!

    • @BillSprague
      @BillSprague 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss Leo too! 😢

  • @jabisanz
    @jabisanz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really awesome. I’m very interesting on the roof top bed and on the back seats. Can be buy separately? Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks 🙏🏻

  • @RJ-oe4co
    @RJ-oe4co 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Storyteller needs Bluetooth control of the Modecom for the main cabin and the pop up.

  • @BigSky88
    @BigSky88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice concept for sure, and this (even as it stands) could tip me towards a Storyteller (the existing 144 Modes are just too cramped to work out of for an extended period of time). Some things I wish they would change before production (in no particular order) ...
    1) EW sleeping arrangement ("downstairs") because I assume this would result in more galley counter space.
    2) Match the gray water tank size to the fresh water tank size.
    3) Make the pop-top optional (I'd have more use for a walk-able roof rack.
    4) Either include a UV and sediment filter, or make provisions for them to be easily added later.
    5) Looks like the water and batter compartments are sitting away from the side walls. Maybe that's just because it's a prototype, but moving them closer to the walls would add more cargo room.
    6) I get the point of the swivel bench, but I'd prefer a fixed bench (against the wall) with storage in the base (and of course a Lagun table mount). Or at least make it so that converting to an aftermarket bench is straight forward.
    7) And I agree with everyone else who wishes they used a more efficient and quieter A/C, and "pre-wired" for Starlink

  • @MarJay-w5f
    @MarJay-w5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two beds (N-S down for 3 kids and E-W up for 2 adults) with no pop-top to reduce cost and make it a true 4 season.

  • @noelfernandez4394
    @noelfernandez4394 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love the floor plan. The only thing I don't like about storytelller is that there A/C unit your paying top dollar and you have a low end A/C😢 why🤔

    • @ceciland7773
      @ceciland7773 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup. They need to up there game there. With this layout, there will be some WFH folks that are interested. Office calls with a noisy AC are a problem.

  • @brucelester6918
    @brucelester6918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic! We have been waiting for this since we heard rumors. When available and how much?

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As Dave mentioned in the video the goal is Q1 of next year. No details on pricing yet

  • @i.amreis
    @i.amreis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive been waiting for this video 🤙🏻
    Love the thing, but a bit disappointed with the garage size space. I feel like the 144 OG has more space

  • @iSven08
    @iSven08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I assume it is because the Crew Mode is on a DRW chassis, but the garage area appears to have far less storage then the traditional draw bridge bed setup on the OG and XO mode

  • @Raquel6470
    @Raquel6470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice! Love the two ways to open the door! Not sure about the overhead storage over the bed when its in bed mode. Afraid of bumping my head. But!!!! extra storage is extra storage and welcoming! I'm gonna guess pricing.....$250K?

  • @ziemfamily
    @ziemfamily 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it all, except would prefer option to sleep lower in back. See how to move table up front.

  • @mikepurnell5645
    @mikepurnell5645 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been asking my local STO dealer for years if this was ever a possibility. Glad to see it’s finally on the horizon. What is the weight limit on the new bed design?

  • @michelleg9441
    @michelleg9441 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would love to see it on a Ford Transit and twin beds.

  • @ChristopherMirabile
    @ChristopherMirabile 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Joe & Cait: few comments for you: (1) great video - thanks for getting it out so fast! (2) Back lounge area feels a bit too bed-oriented for me. To my way of thinking, the main reason to suck it up and eat the cost and worse off-road capabilities, and harder parking of a 170 is to get some real living and hanging out space on the "first floor." My vision would be to get all the sleeping stuff upstairs and have some real comfortable living space downstairs. Because the concept of this van is all about jamming more people in (and that is not really our priority), the front seat area feels like a compromise and the back table area feels like a compromise. If you gave me the keys to one of these, I would probably end up modifying the layout quite a bit (3) Love the hard sided tent (4) love the additional solar and water capacity (5) Don't want a fixed bathroom and cassette toilet - must have OG halo shower option!!!! (6) screen and fan up in tent is very clever and convenient, but hopefully does not add complexity and reliability issues. (7) curious about trims - will there be a Beast-type option and a stealth type option, etc.? (8) Naturally, questions about cost - our Beast was already expensive enough - if the cost of this thing goes way higher, staying cramped in a 144 Beast starts to look pretty good. Really LOVE that STO are doing this, and will watch developments very closely, but at the moment, I cannot see getting one of these because the kitchen an overhead storage are really the only things that are perfect in this prototype as is. My ideal layout would be less schoolbus and more hangout: move the kitchen all the way forward, stick in a halo shower next to it, and devote the rest of the length to (i) more true garage and (ii) a bunch of comfy seating around a table for working the laptop, playing cards, doing puzzles, etc. Fingers crossed!!

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All great comments. No clue on pricing yet so TBD. Will be curious to see the final production model

  • @krystyanast.pierre6607
    @krystyanast.pierre6607 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love it don’t like the interior color, but overall nice new van from storyteller

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Based on what they said with the prototype they’re probably going to change the colors

  • @Hsia_Travels
    @Hsia_Travels 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    why can't it be on the Ford Transit 350HD AWD? not fond of Diesel..

    • @birdymeo
      @birdymeo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

    • @ceciland7773
      @ceciland7773 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the Fords are hard to come by right now. So some builders are Mercedes only right now. That might change again once the supply of Ford vans picks back up.

    • @pdxtsx
      @pdxtsx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Issues with Ford availability and not coming with options because of Ford plant issues

  • @garretlewis4103
    @garretlewis4103 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a good addition to the Storyteller line up. Are you guys going to be at Overland Expo East this year? If so, hope to see you guys there. This van would be too big for us because it is only 2 of us, but it is great for a family. The pop top was cool.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we’ll be there in the GXV booth

    • @garretlewis4103
      @garretlewis4103 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WeretherussosWe hope to see you guys there.

  • @ROYKN6WBK
    @ROYKN6WBK หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the overall length and width?

  • @bjtravelersRV
    @bjtravelersRV หลายเดือนก่อน

    😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @ceciland7773
    @ceciland7773 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not interested in a pop top. I just need a version a van that is a little outdoorsy, 4 season capable and capable of 2 people full timing in it. The short wheelbase model would be hard for two people to full time in.
    So I like that they are looking at the longer wheelbase, but I hope they make a non-pop top version.

  • @jeandunow7794
    @jeandunow7794 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is gonna be off topic but what happened to your Yamaha FJR riding videos? (I'm looking at riding my Kymco AK550 super touring scooter while my husband drives our Coach House class B+ motor home. Our plan is to ride/drive out west next spring.)

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It wasn’t something that seemed to interest a lot of people however we did get some content with the FJR in this video: th-cam.com/video/5RJb4NIh5TA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_3x1ScJyMf7Jd3Rl

  • @NerdyFamily
    @NerdyFamily 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they build this I'm a buyer. I got a family of 6 n we could use this for long road trips

    • @dillon.h
      @dillon.h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Throw in the cab bunk as well as that middle seat upfit from Mercedes and you have seating and sleeping for 6!

  • @brucelester6918
    @brucelester6918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it use shared diesel for water/van heating?

  • @yifan-979
    @yifan-979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    这车在哪里能看到呢?卖多少钱呢?

  • @agustincid4866
    @agustincid4866 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video , but you forgot to mention all the discontinued parts for repairs in the new models. My new 170 2023 Sprinter with 7K miles has been at the shop for 3 months waiting for a drive shaft that will probably never arrive. Awful experience with MB that is turning into a legal battle

  • @felishagathright4013
    @felishagathright4013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seats 5. Where do the other 3 sleep?

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends on who the other three are. The pop top tent will sleep two adults or possibly three kids. Or you can sleep three kids on the main queen size bed.

  • @LiaChe-z3z
    @LiaChe-z3z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pricing???

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No details on pricing yet

  • @pedrosousa8512
    @pedrosousa8512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope this guy sell to europe!!

  • @camillecoller5386
    @camillecoller5386 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this car seat crash tested?

  • @mikeskaggs3763
    @mikeskaggs3763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't understand this floorplan. If you want to haul 5-6 people, don't buy a class B. How about a 170 or Transit extended designed for two with LOTS of room and a bathroom. That is your target audience...

    • @adventureswithgnomie6553
      @adventureswithgnomie6553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Geared for a small family and they want more than a tent, a trailer or a Class C so that they can be in beautiful places normal rigs can't go.

  • @kirrimann1
    @kirrimann1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much? “It’s only 300,000” lol

  • @richardjackson9790
    @richardjackson9790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And still no winch!

  • @tewster2
    @tewster2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish someone would feature a van that most of us can afford....these $250,000 van tours are getting really boring.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Suggestions on what you want to see?

  • @Bruin4Life
    @Bruin4Life หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t hear anything about a bathroom, toilet or tank. If you are boon docking, or traveling cross state(s) or country you are going to need toilet facilities.

    • @Weretherussos
      @Weretherussos  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it has a bathroom

  • @CC-kr2fs
    @CC-kr2fs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kinda pricey for my blood.

  • @jerrylewis6383
    @jerrylewis6383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spoiled and well protected American RV manufacturers will face more challenging time for their product's poor quality and inflated price......