Deck Framing with the Festool Kapex
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode we have 2 goals.
Frame the deck and...
get the decking on site before it rains!
The Festool Kapex KS 120 is a beast of a saw and we are lucky enough to have a go with it. it cuts well and is a lot of fun to use.
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second track "Breeze" by Phillip E Morris / philipemorris
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I like how you’re owning the way you say deck & decking 👌🏼
Dicking?????
You can't beat a stiff deck!!
Good video again guys
Nice work Scott and your drawing of the stairs made perfect sense bro
Well done guys! Been watching your videos for about a month now, great to see you go from 200 subscribers to 13000 in such a short time, Keep em coming!
Thanks man! It's a lot of fun making them
Measurements make perfect sense. (Carpenter home after work watching carpentry videos LOL)
Was just thinking about buying the kapex today. I bought two of the Bosch axial glide saws (10'' and 12'') and I'd highly recommend them but the dust collection really sucks. As in it doesn't suck enough if you know what I mean. I'll stop
You are usually so on with the music. Great work. Also, good carpantree!
Paerau's laugh at 8:08. Priceless.
That corolla parked outside is mint!
Have had my Kaypex for almost 7 years. Has worked great for the job site with no issues. I do not use it for framing, but interior work. Was not designed as a framing saw. I would go with a Bosch for a framing/deck saw.
2 videos I'd love to see, how do you get your work and how do you quote, and do you and paerau ever argue or have a disagreement at work? ✌🏻️love the videos sir
The Unambiguous you should check out “ The Handyman” on youtube. Hes goes through a lot of the business side of carpentry while raging projects
Scott has addressed these in several videos. Briefly, no quotes - just labour. Also he gets his work via word-of-mouth, friends and family etc. Nowadays I'd imagine gets some interest via YT as well.
Hi Scott,
Another great episode. Gerard from the uk here again. Like you I am a bit spoilt as I has a festool Kapex. For me, the quality of cut produced by the festool is joinery quality - can’t be beaten.
Looking forward to the next exciting episode 😉
im working in the same street, just a few years later. Will go and check out your deck next week
You two love a good deck.. love the videos keep them coming
Got the kapex. Great saw but the saw stand looked bollocks so got the Bosch stand for it which folds down into a barrow. Much better. Here in the UK we use 110v on site so my midi was able to pull all the dust through the saw. My ctl 26 does a much better job. The mitre finder you get with itis pretty good to
"The Dicking" Ahahaha love it!
Kapex is a great mitre saw, well worth the $. But its not for rough as guts carpenters, throwing their tools on their utes. Its for quality carpenters, framing and fix. I've had mine for 10years and it still cuts as new. If you're only rough framing then the new Milwaukee 18v, 184mm ,dual bevel, sliding compound is a good light option.
I've got the AEG version of that saw. I'll never go back to a larger saw again I think. Anything larger, I'll just use a Circular saw..
Man I love your videos...Fremantle Australia
Long pants in Auckland, you let the building fraternity down 🤣😂😉
Hello,
what fence system do you used with this saw?
Greetings
Respect from a coromandel builder guy.
Scott you might be the first ever kapex user to frame a deck with that thing haha. Love the vids mate!
Lol! Yeah it may not be the saw for me 😂
Hi mate, why didn't you notch out the posts for the bearers? Is that how it is done in New Zealand?
Code states you can't notch something any more than a third. His posts would have to be three times the size of the edge measurement of the bearer. No need for a post that big, just put them in the hole, shoot your heights, cut the posts and fix barers ontop.
How do you rate your Dewalt in comparison ?
Love the Kapex, it's a pleasure to use.
just found your flicks, I've been a nail bender for 20+ years in the US and have been living down here in New Plymouth for the past 3year .. I've been learning a lot about the Kiwis way of building, they are very quite different in a lot of areas and your have a wealth of knowledge is helping me at the lumber yards and on projects thanks for sharing.. Tripple thumbs up , great vids .. how the hell do you find time to edit ? do you have hobbies besides building ?
I almost bought the kapex 3 times but a lot of them have motor issues and burn up, if it didn’t cost $1,600 I would take the plunge for the accuracy but Paying that much for something that might not make it in the field would kill me, if you leave It’s in the shop or if you’re a hobbyist woodworker (not you lol) it’ll probably hold up. But guys that really lay into them have complained a lot about them blowing up. Just my two cents. Awesome videos as always dude!!
Ive noticed some of the festool tools make a strange sound from the motor, almost as if theyre about to fall apart. Though probably just some chunky overengineered gears clanking about.
The kapex actually burns out, I have there track saw (TS75) Both dominoes XL and 500, Two Sanders, jig saw, two routers And multiple other things from them and I agree their motors do make weird noises sometimes but the kapex Specifically has had well-documented motor problems.
Damn, good to know bro!
Yeah a lot of guys use it and have no problems but for the half that do go through hell, I am aware that the kapex is the most accurate saw but I respect Scott enough to let him know about the issues a lot of carpenters have so he can make a educated decision on if he wants to buy it or not.
The Makita LS1019 is a good alternative to the Kapex. I've got one and I like it a lot for the accuracy, plus it's quite rugged.
Love your video Scott. What earmuffs do you run? They look sleek as and comfy
are the sleepers can be the bearers? I think they are not dry enough.
Please comment on festool handle and trigger on drop saw. Counterintuitive to human anatomy of wrist? Never used one, but seems like it might be uncomfortable.
I have the GCM 12 GDL Gliding Mitre Saw and stand... I love it...
What was your reason for using 145x45 for joists instead of rough sawn?
Do all tradies drive those crazy minivans in NZ? Funny seeing 3 of them in the builders merchants. Liking the vids, keep em up.
Van's and utes
Lol! Yeah the Toyota Hiace has been the go-to-van for awhile
Society in Australasia & Asia runs on those vans. They're generally rated to carry 1.25 tons and fit 9x4.5 foot sheets of whatever. Which is more than your standard American pickup.
Scott, re your dwangs and 1.8m span. It looks like you're mistaking joist length for joist span. Span is the distance between the bearers supporting the joist. 7:58
Loved it
Great job
I mainly have dewalt tools, never owned any Festool, I think it’s designed for bench joiners in the shop rather than on site as it looks like flimsy stuff, not good for site bashing. Although I did see a boy using the Festool screw gun and it was smooth and silent compared to the makita
Big SCOTT!
Keep going u have the best Chanel
Scott what boots are they please? Cheers
I'd be keen on a more comprehensive review. I already own 3 drop saws but I'm always in the market for another
you should try the dewalt flexvolt 54v 305mm mitre saw its a beast (it also cuts wood )
Do you use Joist Hangers in N.Z ?? I see that you still put the dwangs / cripples / noggins between the joists in a line instead of off setting them . As for the rain . well you are in _uckland.
lol first time ive seen a ct kapex combo used outdoors. i guess you enjoy filling up that bag.
I guess if you are doing some super high end work on million dollar homes with lots of complex cuts but for the life of me I don' see why anyone would spend 3 X the cost of a Dewalt. I have had my Dewalt for years and it just works, I never even think about it. Paying over 1,500 for that saw is crazy town. Maybe I am missing the point but hell a Harbor Freight saw would do the same work you are doing for under 200.00. That said you have a great channel and do very nice work. Take care.
Bunnings? Are they competitive with prices vs timber specialists?
Generally cheaper. But they also generally have the shittiest quality.
Its crazy to hear you talk about construction measurements in the metric system.
down here its crazy to hear inches and feet......its the norm for us...like inches is the norm for you...
1) A $1,500 Festool for decking is crazy. Yeah it’s a loaner, I get it, I would jump a chance to use one too, but could never justify it for the kind of work you do. Paerau, assessment of the saw was spot on.
2) To an American like me, you make metric look appealing. Never thought I would say that.
hey Scott is the table that the drop saw is on is that a festool table like the the 2 fences trying to setup a fence like that for my dewalt stand cheers
Hi James, Yeah it's a complete festool set up. I prefer the dewalt stand myself
thanks Scott you should check out company called Fastcap they do a fence system for the dewalt stand called the best fence i have ordered one thought i might do a vid on it when i get it
Woah, they look pretty cool. That would be good for finishing
been told its good for framing as well about $900 out of Australia maybe i send it to you to review as you good at this stuff LoL
@@jamesthebuilder3141 lol! I'll wait for your review mate 🙂
Hi Scott check out the Makita XSL06 miter saw. Its kind of like a Kapex clone in a way. I just bought it and am very impressed.
Thanks mate, I'll have a look!
Dwangs - All your international subbies will be wondering what the hell you're talking about.
We call them blocking
hey scott love the videos. just wonder as a canadian carpenter, would it be hard for me to get a job in new zealand, in carpentry.
I'm a carpenter from NZ and it seems your standards of building are near the same as ours (no expert in your guys codes though) so I can't see why not?
Yeah man, there is certainly a demand for it down here
The changes to the NZ building code and structure in the last 15 years was developed from the Canadian system.... Which explains why the costs have ramped up and up and up just like the Canadians.
Ok we All Know Padeau Loves the Stiff Decks lol And in Canada we call it "blocking". Dwangs!
Hey Scott, recently found your channel and love seeing vids from another Aucklander. How do you get into the carpentry/joinery industry? I'm looking at my career options and want to know where to start. Is it worth going to a school for training? Cheers Nic
Thanks Nic, I did my training through Unitec. Get in touch with them, I'm sure they can point you in the right direction 🙂
Scott Brown Carpentry Thanks Scott, I'm looking at going to MIT for the 1 year course www.manukau.ac.nz/study/areas-of-study/trades/building-construction-and-carpentry/new-zealand-certificate-in-construction-trade-skills-level-3-carpentry or getting stuck in straight away in an apprenticeship. I have had bad experiences at Unitec over the last few years. Is it worth doing some basic training at a school first?
Can’t get over how bad the timber is in Zealand... reminds me of England so much bad timber and bad carpenters
why dont you stagger your blocking? You can through nail instead of toe nailing. Also I only ever use blocking if I have a decent span past 8 foot or so, you have beams pretty close together seems like overkill. It doesent hurt I guess, decks can never be too overbuilt.
Building codes require all those things you mentioned. We're governed by them down here
That’s the whole point of toe or skew nailing it it’s a stronger fixing than nailing straight into end grain.
It’s pretty easy to through nail when inline. A slight angle on the nail and it’s done.
Adam Lynch usually when boards are toe nailed you split the board and crack cause youre driving the nail in parallel with the grain. Through nailing is way stronger because the nail is going perpendicular through the board you are fastening...Toe nail a stud and smack it with your hammer, you will either rip the nails out or crack it. Whack a through nailed stud and you usually just bend the nails over and rip it away from the plate. Through nailing is way stronger imo.
@@mascmc1001 No need to toe nail - you through-nail from the opposite side but on an angle. You're still entering the end grain of the block. I've never understood why that basic technique seems to have eluded whole countries of framers.
Second!!! £1500.00 for that saw. Is festal stuff really worth it?
If ya got the money to flog. Though it is the best out there.
If you work in occupied spaces its well worth it.
Genuinely curious here: Is the Festool that much better than say, a Bosch?
Is it worth double the cost?
I'm guessing the Festool is extremely accurate for trim work?
I got fed up with the crap jig saws out there and bought the Carvex, it's the only Festool I have.
Kapex nice saw the only thing I don’t like is the handle
Wowzers! Scott Brown hit the big leagues, look at that kapex! hhaha!!!!! Jk!
Any other Americans dying laughing about the word deck and how it’s being used? Lol “the d*cking should be delivered” LMAO
I was thinking about a kapex or a cordless makita . What yous think
As a festool user I would recommend the kapex all the way. From the double laser to the angle finder, the smoothness and accuracy of the cuts, the dust extraction... It's a brilliant machine if you can justify the cost!
JumpUpSoldier yup it’s class but the cordless bit is a big pull for me
I checked out the new Makita DLS110 cordless chop saw last Saturday at my local Makita outlet in Aberdeen. Was well Impressed with some of the features, like the static slide rail as on the Festool. And it looked like the dust extraction was much improved. The added bonus of portability. As with all these new bigger 2x18v tools Makita are coming out with, I'd seriously recommend using the 5ah batteries with them. Just for the extra power and running time.
Can't fault Festool quality. It's what you think is better value for you.
Hope this is of interest to you.
I just got the cordless Makita 10" and am very impressed with it. Up there with the kapex IMO. No problems with power and batteries last at least a full day.
John Mackay John smiths ?
The Makita LS1212 is the king of slide compound mitre saws,sadly discontinued with a newer shittier Chinese made junk
I almost bought a festool vac. But for that money I wouldnt want to suck dirt up in it. Lol.
Beera in place?
What, in the early? 🤣🤣
you should have bought the red Milwaukee saw just like finish carpentry tv
The new Makita miter saws have the same features, does does collection better, at a fraction of the price of Festool.
If you are a workshop on the move you can do it with Festool meaning owning the saw and other tools all with the same vacuum.
Having just one saw Makita and other tool brands on the road could become a headache and not be as flexible as Festool.
The dust collection ports on Makita tools are compatible with Festool for just this reason.
G-Shock Jock how’s that?
Yup I ran my makita ls1019 side by side with the cabinet guy on a job. My saw hooked up to the same dust vac (CT26) grabs more of the dust over time. It's not a huge difference, as both do quite well. But the Makita is marginally better. I do like how light the Kapex is if I ever had to tote it up some stairs.
Hello im a apprentice carpenter from sydney australia and i have about a year left of my appreticeship i want to know how you got to work in diffrent countries and how it was for you
Wou ld really love to work in diffrent countries like the uk and canada while im still young
I'm a apprentice in UK and I wasn't to come oz hahaha
Could walk on most firms atm alot of work about apprently thousands short in most trades . Brexit may effect the work however tho
Dude, are you gonna place a heavy car on the deck or something like that?
Turn on subtitles at 8.12 LOL!
That style carpentry you guys have would not fly here in the states
Its come a long way from "stiff decks" to "family Friendly" censorship over Paerau
Baha stiff deck 👍
Your accents add that extra “flavor” to the videos lol
Subliminally I think this video was made for the ladies 🤔🤣
haha - gross!
Needs more beams.........
The festool is so damn accurate because it's german.
Bhoys
Extreme interesting watching the “ Dicking” (as he pronounces it),, 😂😂👏🏻👏🏻
1:20 Y-Dogs?
haha its funny how you embraced the "deck/dick" spelling ;D
Kapex is overpriced for what it is, yes it has some nice features but reliability not one of them, my mates died after 2 years on site use, my Bosch still going strong after 5 years onsite, my mate replaced Kapex with Bosch, wait until you price up the Kapex blades $$$$$$$.
I had a Makita the ones with the see through blue blade guard, blade guard mechanism stuffed up within 6 months, then motor went within 12 months, got rid of the POS (Chinese made junk) went Bosch not looked back.
2 years, man he must of been gutted
Yes, he was, after paying so much for it and he treated it nicely, it was repaired under warranty, but took a while for the repair, it had a few small other niggling things he didn't like so after he got it back he sold it, the overpriced blades $200+ was the final nail in the coffin for it.
I think they would be ok in a workshop setup where they don;t get moved, any saws that are constantly moving from jobsite to jobsite need to be strong and not a bit precious.
G-Shock Jock, Makita hasn't made SCMS saws in Japan for the AU markt for about 5 years they switched the production facilities to China like most because it's cheap, since then their reliability went USC, the most reliable ones they made were the older 10 & 12 series, these were bulletproof, unfortunately the new ones look flashy and shiny but are rubbish compared to the old stuff, fine for occasional DIY use but punishing them on site shown the weaknesses sooner rather than later.
I also doubt you would be ok replacing a $1400 saw every year, I know I wouldn't and I don't know anyone that would think that's acceptable, I also do enough work to pay for the tool in a few jobs that's not the point.
I still expect it to last many years without breaking, if your one is going ok after 5 years, lucky you, if you replaced it with a new one and the new one needed replacing every year I think you would be very pissed off.
I'm not picking on festool KAPEX, it across the board the new breed of tools are made to have a finite life, there is too much plastic in them, undersized bearings, sintered gears, they are not designed to last forever, otherwise manufacturers wont make money and that's all it comes down to.
I have one of my Dad's old Skill saws, it was used everyday for 20 years, it still works perfectly well today albeit a very heavy saw as it was made from real metal.
If I had a $1400 saw and it let me down in a year or two, I wouldn't buy a new one from the same company, that's why I will never consider purchasing another Chinese Makita SCMS, I have two smaller 7 1/4 Japanese Makita, these are 8 or more years old, have cut enough decking to cover a football field and still working like day one.
My mate was so impressed with one of them he bought the same saw (LS0714), aka now Chinese made version, the slide bearings went UTS in under 6 months and had a similar problem with the blade cover to my bigger one kept getting jammed when dropping the blade in under 12 months, it's false economy if the unit fails within warranty, then it costs the manufacturer money to repair it, if it fails outside of warranty then they make money, if you put crappy made components in the product to save a few cents here and there and these fail under warranty, then any saving you made during manufacturing are lost.
My mate's failure says to me Makita skimped out on the quality Japanese components and substituted these with Chinese made sloppy tolerance versions, just because a component is shiny and looks the same doesn't mean it is the same.
Main problem with losing a drop saw for repair, is it can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks (festool) to have it returned, in the meantime you still need to keep working, this is when the reliability thing sux, do you bite the bullet and buy a cheapy as a temporary thing or just simply buy another full priced one.
I don't imagine the repair centres have loaners they will give you while your one is on the shop.
Looks great, as always! When I was learning the craft in the 80's we were in the process of metrifying. I SO wish we had gone through with it, but an infamous Republican derailed the program.
lul you already bought it
festool are nice looking but they are no good in terms of parts and the electronics and all
Placemakers mt willington the van in front of you that’s me
Lol!
Filth ! 😂😂😂
jesus that deck is over egniered
Am i the only one who noticed but this guy says Dick i.s.o. Deck
Why your jobs take so long to for you to complete is because you talk so much and you work so slow
Seems like they are doing a fine job the way they work. Low stress and they enjoy it!
Does it really matter it would more then likely be a quoted job and making videos for all your subs to watch sucks a heap of time
They arent slow
Sounds like you're answering a question no one asked?
Kind of needs to explain things for people who aren't tradesmen to understand don't you think?
Show us some of your work please since you think can do better