I was going to say something similar. It's that Minnesotan thing they have -- the guy seemed genuinely happy to sit there and talk to the guy and I bet he acts the same way when he is interviewing the local dentist who saw a ufo or some shit, you know?
That's amazing that Lynch wrote the "25 Years" line the night before they filmed it. They had a lot of "happy accidents" on TP, like Frank Silva as BOB (especially the part at the end of the pilot where Mrs. Palmer wakes up screaming and Frank Silva was accidentally in the mirror.) So glad we have not only this book, but the show back as well.
I recently watched the first season again and I had forgotten that Cooper had mentioned the 25 years. In episode 3 while telling Harry and Lucy about his dream, at one point he says - "...Suddenly it was 25 years later. I was old and sitting in a red room." So it wasn't exactly Lynch pulling something out of a hat at the last minute. It was baked in long before, though he chose refer to it in what turned out to be the last episode until....
Yeah, sadly he passed during the making of season 3 (or shortly thereafter) - The S3 episode when he's talking on Skype to Sheriff Truman (ep4?) is dedicated to him....RIP.
I recently watched the first season again and I had forgotten that Cooper had mentioned the 25 years. In episode 3 while telling Harry and Lucy about his dream, at one point he says - "...Suddenly it was 25 years later. I was old and sitting in a red room." So it wasn't exactly Lynch pulling something out of a hat at the last minute. It was baked in long before, though he chose to refer to it in what turned out to be the last episode until....
So interesting that he says the "I'll see you in 25 years" line was the creators' 'way back' into the show and jumping-off point for figuring out where to start. That definitely makes me think Coop will have just been stuck in there this whole time and finally gets released in the present day.
I recently watched the first season again and I had forgotten that Cooper had mentioned the 25 years. In episode 3 while telling Harry and Lucy about his dream, at one point he says - "...Suddenly it was 25 years later. I was old and sitting in a red room."
Thank you for sharing all this content! With that said, my critiques of Mark Frost in context of this book 1) I don't think people who haven't seen the show will enjoy it at all, even less than someone never seeing the show watching "Fire Walk With Me." It's for Twin Peaks mega fans 2) I don't appreciate the retcons in the book and its second part 3) I don't believe Mark Frost in fact wrote this, but it was shadow written (as information about the same topic will differ from section to section of the book) 4) I feel the big reveal of the cosmic importance of a very minor character in the show is not at all credible. The book is cool in how its concept and how it's put together but I thought it was rather poor.
I wonder how the FBI got a photograph of Bob? Aside from the non-canon ending they had to throw together for the International market to sell the TP pilot as a stand alone movie in order to get the green light for the American tv series where Bob appeared as a physical person, all the rest of the time Bob is just a non-physical demon that people only see in hallucinations, visions or dreams.
I was thinking today that Cooper's fascination with coffee (which is seen abundantly in Seasons 1&2 as well as in 'Dougie Cooper' in Season 3, could be a sign of psychological conditioning by Gordon Cole (?), who is the only other one with a shared fascination over coffee, to keep Coop centered. His impression to me is that he (during the first two seasons) is awfully young to be a lead investigator for the FBI, but is stated to possess exceptional skill and perception. So perhaps with 'device' was to keep him focused to battle possible weaknesses (women? Audrey/Annie). Could this 'device' help bring him back from his malaise from being in the Black Lodge so long?
Cool, I've just ordered "The List of 7" (which is the praised novel Frost wrote straight after TP - Using many of the ideas about secret societies/mythology etc he'd researched for the show, but in a much expanded, deepened schenario) - Really looking forward to reading it! (when Amazon finally post it to me!)
All due respect to Mark - he doesn't get enough credit as a co-creator of Twin Peaks. But I have to say that, contrary to what he says here, this book - though really well put together - is of no help to anyone who has never watched the show, and it barely tells any of the town's history. It should really be called The Secret History of UFOs.
Interesting! I was going to start listening to the audio version of the book. If it really does not have the whole Twin Peaks quirky vibe that the show from 1990 had, I'm not sure if I want to commit to the book. I loved that the original series was this wild stew of American soap opera, film noir, sitcom, and sleuth story like Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys. Now I'm thinking if this "novel" is more about UFOs and such then I probably ought to spare myself, and use the time for something else.
The funny thing comes up from Frost's mouth in the end of the interview 5:11: "it is funs who kept it (series) alive all these years through the internet, dvds and finaly online streaming (...)". Indeed online streaming was supposed to be a saviour of many odd and unique movies/series! I hope Frost's words will inspire all those copyright-hunters to bug off and leave the streamworld in peace!!
And in order to get more odd and unique movies and shows, you need to support them. It's not exactly free to create these things, so, please, show some gratitude to the creators and pay for their art.
The 25 years line was the way back into the show... But instead one of the first main things we see in season 3 is an unknown guy in new york staring at a glass box for absolutely ages with nothing happening...
@@69Jackjones69 Yes i understand that the portal / box watching is a metaphor for binge TV and we're being told that things can't possibly be as they were in the 90s so don't expect them to be... and the show did a great job of bringing things together for that bizarre climax... but we have to admit there were large parts of the show that were excruciating and unnecessarily boring... still can't believe the decision to make the main heroic character act like he's got dementia for 15 whole episodes
@@wailer27overall the return was a but of a let down, due in no small part to your overall point that Lynch looooves wasting people's time here. The viewers are being punished for being viewers. Once is enough but with so much to be told or shown, with so little time having passed, and the fact that they had no plan to finish the tale, it just feels like masturbatory film making. Cool, you got us, you punked all expectations over and again and had a few laughs, now more of the actors are dead and the story is back where it started. The original series ending wasn't even intended as an end but as bait to get picked back up, but ok, let's just drop everyone off again.
the first two seasons especially until the murderer was revealed so good that the return couldnt top that and it couldnt eventually but we (viewers) still deserve another season
I know most people associate Twin Peaks as David Lynch’s creation, but there’s no Twin Peaks without Mark Frost either. Without Mark Frost, it just feels like it’s missing something; I mean, look at “Fire Walk With Me”.
I didn't like that much FWWM but maybe because I was expecting more continuity with Dale. I would rewatch it with the deleted scenes because I think it add too much to it like that scene of the Palmer family having a good time.
Surprisingly informed and likable interviewer.
I was going to say something similar. It's that Minnesotan thing they have -- the guy seemed genuinely happy to sit there and talk to the guy and I bet he acts the same way when he is interviewing the local dentist who saw a ufo or some shit, you know?
He's definitely a fan of TP. Calling the red room the lodge is a dead giveaway.
That's amazing that Lynch wrote the "25 Years" line the night before they filmed it. They had a lot of "happy accidents" on TP, like Frank Silva as BOB (especially the part at the end of the pilot where Mrs. Palmer wakes up screaming and Frank Silva was accidentally in the mirror.) So glad we have not only this book, but the show back as well.
I recently watched the first season again and I had forgotten that Cooper had mentioned the 25 years. In episode 3 while telling Harry and Lucy about his dream, at one point he says - "...Suddenly it was 25 years later. I was old and sitting in a red room." So it wasn't exactly Lynch pulling something out of a hat at the last minute. It was baked in long before, though he chose refer to it in what turned out to be the last episode until....
@@svjim1 It was also stated to be 25 years later in the alternative ending version of the pilot.
pretty mindblowing that Mark Frost's Dad, is Doc Heyward from the show :o
Wow, I never realized this. Thats actually pretty cool :)
Yeah, sadly he passed during the making of season 3 (or shortly thereafter)
- The S3 episode when he's talking on Skype to Sheriff Truman (ep4?) is dedicated to him....RIP.
I never knew that.
@@RonnieJamesOsbourne and Susan also dies... Also old lady across from the "shut in" is in Seinfeld.
I was randomly looking for Mark Frost content but I wasn’t expecting Majors & Quinn content
I recently watched the first season again and I had forgotten that Cooper had mentioned the 25 years. In episode 3 while telling Harry and Lucy about his dream, at one point he says - "...Suddenly it was 25 years later. I was old and sitting in a red room." So it wasn't exactly Lynch pulling something out of a hat at the last minute. It was baked in long before, though he chose to refer to it in what turned out to be the last episode until....
I see you play chess rather than checkers. :> Well done.
I'm almost finished with this book, and it's amazing! It is full of clues that relate to the new series, and you MUST read it first!
cal riec No, you must not. Although, I’m sure it adds to the experience!
I found this book at the local dollar store. I think it was sent to me from the red room.
So interesting that he says the "I'll see you in 25 years" line was the creators' 'way back' into the show and jumping-off point for figuring out where to start. That definitely makes me think Coop will have just been stuck in there this whole time and finally gets released in the present day.
Gold star for you.
Hooray! Thanks. hahaha. :D
Wow you were right
I recently watched the first season again and I had forgotten that Cooper had mentioned the 25 years. In episode 3 while telling Harry and Lucy about his dream, at one point he says - "...Suddenly it was 25 years later. I was old and sitting in a red room."
I will PDF this book and save it in a Floppy Disc.
Attila RZA Don't ask me why I read this in Gordon Cole's voice + gusto.
@@reguluspastor Wow , a recent comment ,are you binge watching twin peaks in lockdown ?
Get with the times hombre... use a Zip drive.
did you? lol
have you done it?
Who are the folks in the background? They're quietly freaking me out! O_o
They're watching from the red room. lol
they look like something from a lynch movie
Maybe they're the five secret chiefs of the Illuminati?
Either way, I get the feeling they're hungry for donuts... 2:08
This interviewer is so nice you'd almost think he's Canadian...
Such a brilliant idea. I love how fucked up the new series is. I do miss the lack of jazz score though.
TheRubberStudiosASMR you mean you miss the jazz score of which now there is a lack of?
@@TheMikenanners a man of culture
@@borysvengerov3398 no idea what this was tbh
i love everything about this
Thank you for sharing all this content!
With that said, my critiques of Mark Frost in context of this book
1) I don't think people who haven't seen the show will enjoy it at all, even less than someone never seeing the show watching "Fire Walk With Me." It's for Twin Peaks mega fans
2) I don't appreciate the retcons in the book and its second part
3) I don't believe Mark Frost in fact wrote this, but it was shadow written (as information about the same topic will differ from section to section of the book)
4) I feel the big reveal of the cosmic importance of a very minor character in the show is not at all credible. The book is cool in how its concept and how it's put together but I thought it was rather poor.
I havent watched this show before but what is with the Dark Council in the background?
The book is a beauty, its a work of art.
I wonder how the FBI got a photograph of Bob? Aside from the non-canon ending they had to throw together for the International market to sell the TP pilot as a stand alone movie in order to get the green light for the American tv series where Bob appeared as a physical person, all the rest of the time Bob is just a non-physical demon that people only see in hallucinations, visions or dreams.
Every time I hear the words "cannon" or "head cannon" I hear David Lynch say "no".
I was thinking today that Cooper's fascination with coffee (which is seen abundantly in Seasons 1&2 as well as in 'Dougie Cooper' in Season 3, could be a sign of psychological conditioning by Gordon Cole (?), who is the only other one with a shared fascination over coffee, to keep Coop centered. His impression to me is that he (during the first two seasons) is awfully young to be a lead investigator for the FBI, but is stated to possess exceptional skill and perception. So perhaps with 'device' was to keep him focused to battle possible weaknesses (women? Audrey/Annie). Could this 'device' help bring him back from his malaise from being in the Black Lodge so long?
I have to say I think you're reading too much into Coop's love of coffee.
i am at page 80 it is amazing
Cool, I've just ordered "The List of 7" (which is the praised novel Frost wrote straight after TP - Using many of the ideas about secret societies/mythology etc he'd researched for the show, but in a much expanded, deepened schenario)
- Really looking forward to reading it! (when Amazon finally post it to me!)
Does the book explain or help explain S3?
I bought the book and lt's a keeper
Does anyone know the interviewer's name? Need to reference him for a project
@@ProperGanderSaul laughed
seems like everyone got their start with mr rogers!
My copy is coming tomorrow from Amazon... Can hardly wait 🙂
Keaton, Frost, and Mr. Rogers. That sounds like it would have been crazy lmao
Whoever staged this interview deserves a hand for the assorted doughnuts and shadow program people in the background.
I think they are both distracting and don't add anything.
It's a great read, whether you have seen the show or not
All due respect to Mark - he doesn't get enough credit as a co-creator of Twin Peaks. But I have to say that, contrary to what he says here, this book - though really well put together - is of no help to anyone who has never watched the show, and it barely tells any of the town's history. It should really be called The Secret History of UFOs.
Interesting! I was going to start listening to the audio version of the book. If it really does not have the whole Twin Peaks quirky vibe that the show from 1990 had, I'm not sure if I want to commit to the book. I loved that the original series was this wild stew of American soap opera, film noir, sitcom, and sleuth story like Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys. Now I'm thinking if this "novel" is more about UFOs and such then I probably ought to spare myself, and use the time for something else.
@@eduardo_corrochio did you check it out? Is the audio version any good?
@@Vingul Nope, haven't tried it.
@@eduardo_corrochio the books rule. They add a lovely layer to the story of twin peaks
@@MrDrProfessorPurple Okay, thank you for the feedback!
whens pt.2? thats gonna have the infos!
With Michael Keaton...
The funny thing comes up from Frost's mouth in the end of the interview 5:11: "it is funs who kept it (series) alive all these years through the internet, dvds and finaly online streaming (...)". Indeed online streaming was supposed to be a saviour of many odd and unique movies/series! I hope Frost's words will inspire all those copyright-hunters to bug off and leave the streamworld in peace!!
And in order to get more odd and unique movies and shows, you need to support them. It's not exactly free to create these things, so, please, show some gratitude to the creators and pay for their art.
whats the song that plays at the end of video?
Casefiles.
Yo Mark if it's a gift for fans send me a free copy.
two things: who are those people in the background and no cherry danish?
Telling stories through footnotes. House of Leaves inspiration maybe
The 25 years line was the way back into the show... But instead one of the first main things we see in season 3 is an unknown guy in new york staring at a glass box for absolutely ages with nothing happening...
Interesting take. Have you watched The Return in its entirety?
@@69Jackjones69 Yes i understand that the portal / box watching is a metaphor for binge TV and we're being told that things can't possibly be as they were in the 90s so don't expect them to be... and the show did a great job of bringing things together for that bizarre climax... but we have to admit there were large parts of the show that were excruciating and unnecessarily boring... still can't believe the decision to make the main heroic character act like he's got dementia for 15 whole episodes
@@wailer27overall the return was a but of a let down, due in no small part to your overall point that Lynch looooves wasting people's time here. The viewers are being punished for being viewers. Once is enough but with so much to be told or shown, with so little time having passed, and the fact that they had no plan to finish the tale, it just feels like masturbatory film making. Cool, you got us, you punked all expectations over and again and had a few laughs, now more of the actors are dead and the story is back where it started. The original series ending wasn't even intended as an end but as bait to get picked back up, but ok, let's just drop everyone off again.
the first two seasons especially until the murderer was revealed so good that the return couldnt top that and it couldnt eventually but we (viewers) still deserve another season
@@wailer27 dougie jones was the best part, you wouldn’t get it because you’re boring
Fcfrtwin peaks
Twin Peaks is so white that i should not like. Forgive me father
The level of nontent here is amazing.
More Mark Snow. Beautiful characters and story lines. Less Lynch. Shock and confusion.
ProperGanderSaul mark frost is the guy who put all the spiritual things in the show. So i kinda agree tbh
Marks really into that spiritual alien lore. lynch's ideas for dialogue are pivotal to the show's success. can't have one without the other!
ProperGanderSaul new TP is biggest garbage ever filmed
@@acidoblivion no
@@ProperGanderSaul most of season two was written by neither Lynch nor Frost. Season 3 was written by Lynch AND Frost, in its entirety. Get a grip m8.
LOOK AT THAT FACE!!
I know most people associate Twin Peaks as David Lynch’s creation, but there’s no Twin Peaks without Mark Frost either. Without Mark Frost, it just feels like it’s missing something; I mean, look at “Fire Walk With Me”.
Fire walk with me was amazing.. maybe your just basic
I didn't like that much FWWM but maybe because I was expecting more continuity with Dale. I would rewatch it with the deleted scenes because I think it add too much to it like that scene of the Palmer family having a good time.
fire walk with me was great and the best part of the franchise, don’t be delusional
The Final Dossier is much better...none of the Alien crap...I always wonder what Lynch thinks of these books.
Great interview. I'm totally gonna pick up that book before the new season drops.