When I drove trucks for Schneider National. I meet a waitress with the last name of Hatfield and she was 7th cousin to Devil Ans and I thought how cool was that and she offered to let me come to her place for a 72 hour restart to look at her family photo album. She had a photo of a Young Cap Hatfield that was done in the early 1900 hundreds. She had a lot of newspaper clippings about the trouble going on in WV and KY.
My dad was from West by God Virginia. His father was a miner and eventually a miner owner I have been on a road he blasted out of a mountain by hanging ogg it with a jack hammer. He was a very hard man, starting work at age 12 driving horses for a limestone company. He even survived being hurt by one og the huge chainsaws the used for undercutting coal. He was the sort which as they used to say still had the bark on. I saw as a kid the sort of hard men life in those mountains shaped. This story matched many of the farmers and miners I knew as a kid into the 1960s. The story told herematches my own experience generations later. I hope others can see echoes of of this history in my living experience. Modern city people may not understand the old traditions of the mountain folk, but I can assure you all that spirit was and is alive in that country. . Such men did what they felt they had to, violent or peaceful. Getting an education and learning the law asmature adults must have been hard, but not much got in the way when they chose a course of action. My dad and grandfather were such men, not to be crossed or stopped. God bless you all
There is a few things I don't think was fair. Devil Anse and Cap never got in any trouble for their parts in the feud. And Johnce only did 7 years then was pardoned. You 2 men say yourselves that Cap had a lot to do with the raid on the McCoy farm that morning. Yet when he comes back all is forgiven and forgot about. I don't think Ole Randall could ever forget that terrible day. Where I'm from we have something called Hillbilly justice not even that was done to the Hatfield's. But that was exactly what was done to Randall's 3 son's tied to the pawpaw trees. It is still a topic here in the Hills. I guess it always will be. Thank you gentlemen for all your videos about the Hillbilly life. We are no dumb or inbreed like a lot of people think. We are smart and friendly. If you have never walked the trail y'all should give it a try someday. Thanks again. ❤
I have a second great grandmother who was a McCoy. And one of my mother's sisters married a Hatfield. My uncle Bob was the grandson of Reverend Anderson Hatfield - not Devil Answer. I've been fascinated by the history of the area since I was very young and I still am. Thank you for adding a little more to the story for me.
I grew up just outside of War WV. There is a Hatfield and McCoy tail in and around that area. Grew up hearing stories and have McCoy in my family back ground. My senior league all star games were played in Matewon
I am proudly from the Kentucky Appalachian mountains. My grandma on my mom's side was a McCoy. She had pictures and newspaper articles from that time. She would often tell us stories about the feud. She always said her heart went out to Ole Man Randall. To her he lost the most because of the feud. Several children his wife was never the same after that new years raid on their farm. He lost his house and after all of that the old man dies from burns. I have never picked a side in that feud. I believe both sides lost a lot. I do believe that Johnse got away with murder. It was said he was the one who killed Randall's daughter that morning. But Cotton Top took the blame believing the Hatfield's would save him. A lot of people base Johnse Hatfield by the movie. He was nothing like that. He cared gor no one but himself. He never planned to marry Rosanna. But did marry her 13 year old cousin Nancy. Perry Cline was never in love with Rosanna he was married to Randall's brother's Widow. All if the info is out there but you do have to look. Ehere I'm from we had to study the feud in school. I just hope that bith sides have finally found peace. ❤. Thank you sir for sharing your video.
Most of the information came from newspaper reports of the time, since the press was still very interested in anyone and anything connected to the feud. We are glad you liked the story!
@@StoriesofAppalachia my grandfather, pictured with me in my profile photo passed away last year, his father, Thomas Jefferson Hatfield, was 17 when Devil Anse Past, I grew up with stories from my grandpa about the fued that were barely second hand and you guys have done your research for certain but it’s always awesome to hear new detail, pops can’t remember everything lol, he would have been so proud to see others dedicating so much time, effort, and interest into our family, he was blown away a decade ago when he learned about Costner and the recreation, even though it’s American folk lore, it’s still crazy to understand anyone would find your family history worthy of that investment, he had no clue just how well known it was. Thank you again for doing such a good job, good or bad for the Hatfields, doesn’t matter, honest research and reporting does, that’s integrity!!
I love history! You all do a good job telling this story. I wish you could do a story on the Greene-Jones war that happened in Hancock County, Sneedville, Tn. I have read alot about it on the internet. They say it had alot of similarities of the Hatfield-McCoy fued. Like, timber and hogs, etc.
I love the history of Appalachia always have since I was a child. My wife and I vacation there every thanksgiving. Spending time in and around Logan and Mingo county’s. I never new this about Cap! Truly enjoyed my time with you both and the history lesson.
So according to the Mini series, the nickname "Cap" was because JR had an eye injury that heal with a milky white film over it, but you don't detect it in the photos which are Black and white, the best thing about the series was, good acting, good storyline, but it was flawed, traditionally flawed, but it certainly interested me enough to keep searching and try to get more info to the never ending pictures of history, this particular subject is about the individuals in the big story, and this Podcast is why i keep looking building context and trying up loose ends, well done
!!!!!!!!!!! Please - Can anyone tell me how to contact these guys????? My Great Grandfather has the same story because he said he delivered the envelop to Bank High and was told by Uncle Anse to sit on the bench outside the court house and wait on Cap but different details. I need to confirm story. Its an audio tape.
The mini series was based on the main events of the feud from what I read. Because there was a lot of years that nothing happened they say, like a 13 year span with no violence. This is just from what I’ve researched and read!! 😎🙏🇺🇸
Having watched the miniseries with Kevin Costner and the late Bill Paxton, and having looked up any and all information I have been able to find about the actual events of the feud, which as you may guess do not always stack up as it depends on whether it's the Hatfield or McCoy side you're reading about, the sad thing is the whole damned thing could've been completely prevented, if both families would have just said: "Enough," and decided to let things go. So much loss of life, and it was completely unnecessary, and shows just how poisonous both hatred and revenge are - they lead to nothing but pain and suffering.
According to the Kentucky Encyclopedia, Cap, as an acting constable, with his friend Tom Wallace, shot McCoy on the banks of the Tug River. He was after Jefferson McCoy for killing a mail carrier. We have no idea if it was like it was portrayed in the mini-series or not.
@@StoriesofAppalachia I forgot about the mail carrier shooting. Thank u. That was depicted in the series and it showed Cap and Jim Vance hunting him down for the bounty. Thanks for the feed back. I’m a big history nerd especially when it comes to the feud!!😎💪🇺🇸🙏
When I drove trucks for Schneider National. I meet a waitress with the last name of Hatfield and she was 7th cousin to Devil Ans and I thought how cool was that and she offered to let me come to her place for a 72 hour restart to look at her family photo album. She had a photo of a Young Cap Hatfield that was done in the early 1900 hundreds. She had a lot of newspaper clippings about the trouble going on in WV and KY.
i'd love to see if she knows what hand he wrote with. southpaw's are downright deadshot's.
My dad was from West by God Virginia. His father was a miner and eventually a miner owner I have been on a road he blasted out of a mountain by hanging ogg it with a jack hammer. He was a very hard man, starting work at age 12 driving horses for a limestone company. He even survived being hurt by one og the huge chainsaws the used for undercutting coal. He was the sort which as they used to say still had the bark on. I saw as a kid the sort of hard men life in those mountains shaped. This story matched many of the farmers and miners I knew as a kid into the 1960s. The story told herematches my own experience generations later. I hope others can see echoes of of this history in my living experience. Modern city people may not understand the old traditions of the mountain folk, but I can assure you all that spirit was and is alive in that country. . Such men did what they felt they had to, violent or peaceful. Getting an education and learning the law asmature adults must have been hard, but not much got in the way when they chose a course of action. My dad and grandfather were such men, not to be crossed or stopped. God bless you all
There is a few things I don't think was fair. Devil Anse and Cap never got in any trouble for their parts in the feud. And Johnce only did 7 years then was pardoned. You 2 men say yourselves that Cap had a lot to do with the raid on the McCoy farm that morning. Yet when he comes back all is forgiven and forgot about. I don't think Ole Randall could ever forget that terrible day. Where I'm from we have something called Hillbilly justice not even that was done to the Hatfield's. But that was exactly what was done to Randall's 3 son's tied to the pawpaw trees. It is still a topic here in the Hills. I guess it always will be. Thank you gentlemen for all your videos about the Hillbilly life. We are no dumb or inbreed like a lot of people think. We are smart and friendly. If you have never walked the trail y'all should give it a try someday. Thanks again. ❤
Thank you!
Frank Phillips was the avenging angel for the McCoy family .
I have a second great grandmother who was a McCoy. And one of my mother's sisters married a Hatfield. My uncle Bob was the grandson of Reverend Anderson Hatfield - not Devil Answer. I've been fascinated by the history of the area since I was very young and I still am. Thank you for adding a little more to the story for me.
You are a part of history yourself, it appears! Thank you for the kind comments and thanks for watching...
I grew up just outside of War WV. There is a Hatfield and McCoy tail in and around that area. Grew up hearing stories and have McCoy in my family back ground. My senior league all star games were played in Matewon
I am proudly from the Kentucky Appalachian mountains. My grandma on my mom's side was a McCoy. She had pictures and newspaper articles from that time. She would often tell us stories about the feud. She always said her heart went out to Ole Man Randall. To her he lost the most because of the feud. Several children his wife was never the same after that new years raid on their farm. He lost his house and after all of that the old man dies from burns. I have never picked a side in that feud. I believe both sides lost a lot. I do believe that Johnse got away with murder. It was said he was the one who killed Randall's daughter that morning. But Cotton Top took the blame believing the Hatfield's would save him. A lot of people base Johnse Hatfield by the movie. He was nothing like that. He cared gor no one but himself. He never planned to marry Rosanna. But did marry her 13 year old cousin Nancy. Perry Cline was never in love with Rosanna he was married to Randall's brother's Widow. All if the info is out there but you do have to look. Ehere I'm from we had to study the feud in school. I just hope that bith sides have finally found peace. ❤. Thank you sir for sharing your video.
Great story, some information I hadn’t heard before from my grandfather who grew up in the sane area as Cap.
Most of the information came from newspaper reports of the time, since the press was still very interested in anyone and anything connected to the feud. We are glad you liked the story!
@@StoriesofAppalachia my grandfather, pictured with me in my profile photo passed away last year, his father, Thomas Jefferson Hatfield, was 17 when Devil Anse Past, I grew up with stories from my grandpa about the fued that were barely second hand and you guys have done your research for certain but it’s always awesome to hear new detail, pops can’t remember everything lol, he would have been so proud to see others dedicating so much time, effort, and interest into our family, he was blown away a decade ago when he learned about Costner and the recreation, even though it’s American folk lore, it’s still crazy to understand anyone would find your family history worthy of that investment, he had no clue just how well known it was.
Thank you again for doing such a good job, good or bad for the Hatfields, doesn’t matter, honest research and reporting does, that’s integrity!!
Thank you so much...
Cap was not only a police officer, he was a State Police Officer.
Nope. He was a deputy under his brothers, Tennis and Joe.
Great info, great upload. Thanks.
Thank you! Glad you liked the video...
I love history! You all do a good job telling this story. I wish you could do a story on the Greene-Jones war that happened in Hancock County, Sneedville, Tn. I have read alot about it on the internet. They say it had alot of similarities of the Hatfield-McCoy fued. Like, timber and hogs, etc.
My maiden name is Greene and my ancestors was a part of this.
Thank you! We are working on several feud stories, so we'll add the Greene-Jones war to the list...
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I love the history of Appalachia always have since I was a child. My wife and I vacation there every thanksgiving. Spending time in and around Logan and Mingo county’s. I never new this about Cap! Truly enjoyed my time with you both and the history lesson.
We're glad you share our love of Appalachia's story. Thanks for watching!
That was very good! TY
You are most welcome! Thanks for watching...
You have one hell of a library sir
Thanks, we do our best...
Another good one can't wait until next Friday
Thank you.
Great grandma
Dude on the right: love your library
Dude on the right says thank you!
I love it too! Alaska 😁
Boyd Huppert I believe played Cap. He also played agent Murphy in Narcos season 1. Excellent.
I think I need to go to WV and Southern KY. I would love to visit the area you guys tell us about. Very interesting (true) tales. Thanks.
It is a place full of history, that's for sure. Thanks for watching!
So according to the Mini series, the nickname "Cap" was because JR had an eye injury that heal with a milky white film over it, but you don't detect it in the photos which are Black and white, the best thing about the series was, good acting, good storyline, but it was flawed, traditionally flawed, but it certainly interested me enough to keep searching and try to get more info to the never ending pictures of history, this particular subject is about the individuals in the big story, and this Podcast is why i keep looking building context and trying up loose ends, well done
Thanks, and thanks for watching!
Awesome Story
Glad you liked it
I'm related to robecka hattfeild
Much of this version of the story is derived from Coleman Hatfield’s book, Tale of the Devil.
Shot " Several " of the Mccoy children?!? There was 2 shot that night
Enjoyed this video
Thank you!
!!!!!!!!!!! Please - Can anyone tell me how to contact these guys????? My Great Grandfather has the same story because he said he delivered the envelop to Bank High and was told by Uncle Anse to sit on the bench outside the court house and wait on Cap but different details. I need to confirm story. Its an audio tape.
You can contact us at storiespodcast@gmail.com.
Could you send a copy of the tape to the Hatfield Homeplace Museum in Sarah Ann, WV? Thanks.
My brother is named after David Kenny, his wife was my great grandma
The mini series was based on the main events of the feud from what I read. Because there was a lot of years that nothing happened they say, like a 13 year span with no violence. This is just from what I’ve researched and read!! 😎🙏🇺🇸
Having watched the miniseries with Kevin Costner and the late Bill Paxton, and having looked up any and all information I have been able to find about the actual events of the feud, which as you may guess do not always stack up as it depends on whether it's the Hatfield or McCoy side you're reading about, the sad thing is the whole damned thing could've been completely prevented, if both families would have just said: "Enough," and decided to let things go.
So much loss of life, and it was completely unnecessary, and shows just how poisonous both hatred and revenge are - they lead to nothing but pain and suffering.
I hear that suposendly cap killed estemated 18 to 25 people it sure was the wild in them there days. Thank you for your podcast sir. True History .
Thank you...glad you liked our story!
Pic of this cat at the start crosses his guns so he was Part of the show .
He stole that land from Perry Cline
Did Cap really shoot Jefferson Mcoy between the eyes like it was shown in the mini series?? I know Hollywood takes certain liberties with movies!!
According to the Kentucky Encyclopedia, Cap, as an acting constable, with his friend Tom Wallace, shot McCoy on the banks of the Tug River. He was after Jefferson McCoy for killing a mail carrier. We have no idea if it was like it was portrayed in the mini-series or not.
@@StoriesofAppalachia I forgot about the mail carrier shooting. Thank u. That was depicted in the series and it showed Cap and Jim Vance hunting him down for the bounty. Thanks for the feed back. I’m a big history nerd especially when it comes to the feud!!😎💪🇺🇸🙏
Period newspaper accounts say that Cap shot him in the head from across the Tug Fork.
That would be about 50 yards or less .@@brandonraykirk2925