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I've heard about the Hatfields and McCoys most of my life but this is the first I've heard of the Holbrooks and Underwoods in my 84+ years. Thanks for another great story.
I own 60 acres on the Blue Ridge eastern slope in Rappahannock County, Va. I inherited it from my mother, who had inherited it from her father. Her father was an O'Daugherty born in County Cork, who homesteaded and eventually had 45 dairy cows and a thriving farm in the bottom 20. Tough as old shoe leather and the most honest and principled man I ever knew, next to my father..
I was a little girl in the blue ridge mountains. 60 years ago. I remember going home for supper with a friend. Her grandfather picked us up from school in an old old pickup. We drove and drove and drove up into the mountains. Into another world and life time. I’m still fascinated with the stories as I can picture the scenery.
My great grandfather was an Underwood who married a Holbrook. And yes, the Kentucky/Virginia clans. I’ve never known many Holbrooks, but can verify first hand, and from being one, the Underwoods are a very interesting bunch of characters. Wait ‘til you hear the moonshine stories…
Dude this is funny too because every Underwood I've met had been completely wild (I'm from the same area). I remember partying with a dude who had that last name and thinking he was peculiar, but otherwise charming and fun to be around. About a week later I saw his face on the cover of the local Busted paper.
That must be why my great great great grandpa Hiram Underwood went with his family from Virginia to Kentucky. My great grandma who was his granddaughter, Grace Ann decided to leave Kentucky and never look back. 😜
Much feuding grew out of Bushwhacking during the Civil War and it wasn't just up in the Appalacians, it was all over the South East. It did not die out until the 1920s.
I'm a descendant of the Burchfields of cades cove in the great smoky mountains in Tennessee. Look into the crime they were into in the chestnut flats section of the cove.
The pic used at 8.21 is the famous post-battle photo of a recuperating John Burns, the old civilian who fought against the Confederates at Gettysburg in 1863,
Mr. JD my grandparents on my mom's side was from Kentucky, they were married in a cornfield grandma was 16 grandpa was 18. Anyway it was told to me I'm related to the McCoy's.
All those Appalachian feuds were essentially an extension of the violent border warfare that raged all across the Celtic realms of the British Isles for centuries up until the early-mid 17th Century, before being transported to the American backcountry. From along the English-Scottish border to the battlefields of Ulster in Northern Ireland raiding parties & savage battles were endemic & a common occurrence. Those from those regions who began leaving in droves during the early-mid 1700s before disembarking along an East Coast port & making their way to the Colonial frontier brought with them to the New World many clannish traits, customs & warlike attributes that they had been cultivating for generations back in Celtic Britain (Western Europe's premier warrior races from the late Medieval Era to the mid 1700s, including the Gaelic Irish & the western Scots Highlanders!). And although the link with the Old Country was largely broken even after two generations of relocation a bond still existed, spiritual, primal & even a cultural one to a degree. Those rugged Appalachian men depicted above were being haunted & exhorted by the restless ghosts of their bloody Celtic past.
and I little twit thought Hatfields & McCoys, it couldn't get any worse. Goodness gracious what's going on in that corner of the US. Great storytelling, as always. Thank you for your stories. always great 😘
I’ve heard this story many times since my ggggrandfather was a brother to Squire Holbrook. You know more about it than I do. Excellent research JD. You tell a story better than anyone I’ve ever heard.
I was born in Rowan County, Kentucky. I live in Rowan County now. However, I have never heard this story before. Carter County is next to Rowan County. This does sound much worse than the Feud that took place in Rowan County. Thank you for this video.
Thats because the Yankee Press did not cover it, just like this feud the Black Patch War in west Ky made that Hatfield McCoy fued look like a barroom tussle
Well standing on the outside looking in, it seems to me Gorges nephew was innocent . They had no proof he stole that horse. Even though Squire Holbrook was friends with the owner. Thier the ones who started this fued with out any hard proof. It seems to me ole Gorge Underwood and his family was just trying to survive. I think there were some animosity in town against the Underwoods before the fued started. Definitely some underlying prejudice.
James Deen - It could easily be thought that the feud just started after The Recent Unpleasantness. But as another has suggested here, it probably started many generations before that in Scotland or wherever. Sometimes the insanity takes on a life of its own until nobody really remembers exactly what or who started it. But my own historical studies tend at day's end to lay it at the feet of ancient imperialism. Divide and conquer has always been a favored method of invaders. At one time england held about a quarter of the planet in its sway, and not all the reverberations have gone silent to this day.
In most of these feuds between "I am/was for slavery" people vs "I'm not/wasn't for slavery" people... The pro slavery ones were the usually the bigger pieces of sh*t... No shock really.
Me and my family are from Carter County. It's where I still live today. Heard about this ol' family feud growing up. Good job! Ur one helluva storyteller!
No!!!! It's time for cutting the head of the rattle snake. George Underwood was invincible, how many times was he shot? I lost count. Thanks JD, I was on the edge of my seat.
Accordig to Ancestry in 1891 there were 166 Underwood families living in Scotland and about 15,000 in the rest of the UK. It is an English surname that is found very occasionally in Scotland. Please refrain from making every thing Scottish.I would never dream of saying that Stewart is an English surname, enen though there are many thousands in England.@@scotoftheanarchic.7903
I am amazed at the wounds these people survived without the benefits of the modern ER and intensive care wards. But also that rural people especially mountain folk had a lot of practical knowledge with intimate knowledge of plants and other available things to treat illness. Also the firearms of the days, especially the handguns had a lot less velocity producing less tissue damage with hollow point pistol bullets being something for the future.
Southerners consisted of both pro-confederates and pro-unionists. Many feuds continued in communities way after the Civil war was over. Thanks for this story.
Seems there are always people who are always ready and willing to fight, and they don't seem to need a good reason... things haven't changed all that much... now it's mostly "civilized" feuding, but can be just as deadly in one way or another. Thanks JD for sharing another fascinating story from our history 😎👍
This is the first story I have heard from you. I really enjoyed hearing you tell it and you have a new subscriber. I live in East Tennessee just below the KY state line and I've never heard of this feud. Thanks so much for the content and I look forward to watching your other vids.
I like stories like this keep’em comin Storyteller if possible. Ones like this one and you telling it like you do seems like I’m there. Be safe brother and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
I've been watching all of you Appalachian stories, and really enjoying them. These stories would make a great series. I hope someone picks up on that one day. You also have a great voice! I realized that I wasn't following you, and now I am!
Most people fail to realize how strong a family network was in the 1800's The larger your family was the stronger your family was Things didn't really begin to change untill Henry ford started ford motor company before then most people never went more than 50 miles from there home so it was common that a family could be 30 people or more strong anywhere in the country but the auto mobile changed all that now family's could be 30 40 50 strong but be all over the state so it is my belief maybe in error but I believe the automobile was the end of the clan wars
There is a Holbrook farm south of Ft Wayne, Indiana on US 27. Would be interesting to see if there is any connection? Indiana is not too far from KY. Could be distant relatives. Will have to ask my Mom. They are her relatives on her moms side.
Excellent production! I live in southern WV where I was born almost 65 years ago. And I knew nothing of this feud! I love my family but I've never been that " blood is thicker than water" kind of person. Because I've seen my relatives be in the wrong. I know things were different back then but I still know families with that clannish attitude. They usually can't get along with each other but if a outsider crosses them it's hell to pay! Thanks JD.
Thanks Brad- back then- like your kin or not- you needed them to survive, just like Elwin in this story- he stayed out of the feud completely and still got killed
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller - The innocent are swept up with the guilty in civil conflict however localized or spread. That war obviously grew out of the previous one. RIP, Elwin.
@@TheAppalachianStorytellerst out of curiosity and maybe I missed it but were both families on the same side in the Civil War or who was who in that War? I heard the Jefferson Davis comment, last words that man spoke, but I couldn't tell which family is on what side. I saw this coming from the start of the video but never heard it before.😂
Ain’t that the truth. They don’t like each other and don’t like outsiders either. I know a family like this and I’m in Florida. Never met a more two faced scheming bunch in my life. 😂
I live on the Rowan and Carter County line. Fort Underwood was located not far from me at all, or so I've been told. I knew OF this feud, but I'd never really researched it. So I thoroughly enjoyed this.
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Can you do a segment on my family. The Shelton laural massacre. They matched them to Knoxville from north Carolina during the war over salt. The salt trade was huge. Thanks take a look at history from the mountains of Appalachia. Thanks
great piece of history you broght us. i don't know how i never got the notification it came out. i hope i have remedied that by going back and selecting all notifications. you Sir are the best storyteller i have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Storytelling is a dying art but people like you are its very lifes blood. Thank You for everything you do. Peace and Love
Back in those days there probably wasn't much if any way around situations like that. But people need to think twice when they start itching for another civil war today. Hard to say anyone 'wins' one of those. My grandparents and gg's were forced out of Ireland during that civil war, the spark of which was one single vote against the treaty, even though Collins made it clear the treaty was only to buy time for the country to recover and resume. Dev broke with him bc he was the main rival for national leadership; as Dante alluded, better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven. .... But hate is its own reward, I guess.
Well said Frosty- for me- I find it interesting how all the newspapers portrayed the Underwood’s as the bad guys in this war- when I feel like the Holbrooks were- at a minimum- just as guilty
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller - Blessed are the peacemakers though, right? I'm always impressed with people who can manage to keep their wits when others are losing theirs. (not to be mistaken as pacifist - no Fenian is.)
The Irish civil war is small potatoes im afraid today. WW1 was around that time then WW2 nobody remembers a wee scuffle in Ireland with few casualties and some bombs. It means alot to me personally as a Scots man born n bred but in the world view its forgotten though it was longer and more bitter than most
@@sanderson9338 - Pardon what's meant as a gentle correction, friend. Apparently you're unaware of the intensity of this ongoing struggle, perhaps since the GFA Gerry Adams led managed to tamp down the worst of the war. Sinn Fein is now the largest party in the north, working diligently for a border referendum, now expected to be called this decade. Even before the GFA though, Gerry could fly to the US, briefly speak before a 'Friends of SF' crowd, and raise large funds for non-violent political activities 'back home'. I'm 2nd-gen Irish American, and the bulk of my estate when I die will go guess where? You're innocently speaking from a Scotsman's perspective, I from a different one. We want our 6 counties back, and in God's time shall have them. :) But as a person with uncomfortably close historical proximity to civil unrest, I'm duly alarmed when I hear anyone beating war drums. Humanity needs to grow out of its adolescence if we're to survive. My prayers for American sanity shall never cease.
@@frostyfrances4700 Arguing over borders and countries is outdated we are on the earth our major priority is the governments banks etc not a small piece of Britian thats loyal to its core to the British political systems, its flags,rule and governance. Many away 2nd gen donators dont know what they on about imo. No offence mate.
This is one of the most awesome non-fiction part of History, that everyone should see. We are Prideful yet we still are looked as the worst of the worse…If anything, we all know our Mountains, and only 1 or 2 police are allowed to come in the Mountains, and since they are feeding the Officer, Officers, they would bring a box or 3 of liquor. They had the Moonshine, but they liked the other liquors also…Then they were given a Family escort out of that Holler, and they almost shit themselves. ALL. the Law found out Quick, what happens when you cross them…They know the ones whom we cannot see, and come to eat or worse. Hell, they still have the most Evil, and Polarizing chosen ones, like the Wizards. Don’t believe Me? Do your damn research, or come through around the Bends…Make any right of the first 3 turn offs by the gas station is the best, but Tread lightly… bring tobaccos, give Respect, it will be giving back. They Love the Liquors,gifts for their Children, and they LOVE the sweets, candy.Take Care, and be Respectful!
Exactly what I thought. Hatfield is another. In fact the 1790 census says that 83% of the surnames in the Appalachian states were of English origin. I do believe a false history has been created to reduce the English to minor players.
Thank you for the story It sounds like a mountain full of pussycats for men but if they were only picking off each other you just sit back and wait it out
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller IIndians used those tactics in self defense against people stilling their land. These men used it because they were thugs and bullies. Big difference.
@@gmanette188 - And JD knows that; while trying not to speak for him, I don't believe he'd ever advocate for thugs and bullies. You probably weren't suggesting otherwise; but if you're new in these here parts, rest assured he's an honorable soul. Why, he even puts up with ME!
My ancestry goes deep into America and it definitely has been a conflict like the war of the states. My my family and ancestry is spread across the mid eastern States from Indiana to Florida.. every state that touches.. Indiana Kentucky Virginia West Virginia the Carolinas Tennessee georgia-alabama Florida the states in-between such as Mississippi Missouri..
So it all started because his hot headed son couldn't take a joke. I have family along the Appalachians from Virginia all the way down south to the mountain chains terminus in McCalla Alabama @ Tannehill state park. Ain't much changed really. I don't reckon there would be any deadly feuds over a silly joke or a fatted pig in my family though. I can however tell you that there's 2 things you don't mess with.. our dogs or our kids. Aside from that hell, we all get along just fine.
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Right 👍 and it's difficult for people to wrap their heads around how the civil war affected people then. Those were some deep wounds that stayed open for decades afterwards
Nice choice of soundtrack! Ps. Impressive loyalty of the women and kids! To stay with a dead body for 19 days, low on food and water... Man, you realise it was no joke about this people! If the women and kids are thay way, man are way more scary than the storry tells!
Thanks so much on all points! I work hard on the music being a musician myself. And yes... the WOMEN in this story holding off a group of blood thirsty assassins for 19 days! Wow!
The feud I had heard of is the Natfield and McCoy Feud. I thought that one was bad. I have never heard of the Underwood and HolBrook feud. The Underwood and Holbrook feud seems worse. Family grudges? I have one family line who hold grudges if you cross them. I know of other families if you fight one of their family members you end up fighting the whole family klan.
First time watching 👍🏿just subscribed Growing up all i heard about was Hatfield and McCoy feud. This was way more violent and way more interesting. Will be looking up what else you have 🙏🏿❤️
preciate that brother, welcome to the channel! feel free to dig in, especially the "Appalachias Deadliest" series on my channel if you like outlaws and feuds. By the way I have another feud coming out next Saturday that would make the hats and mccoys blush. Stay tuned
Bed-ridden for 2 years, only to die from the wound in the end?!? Was he afraid he was destined for hell...? I'da put myself outta my misery after a few weeks or months.
People don't usually stop and think about it, but even through the Great Depression, much of rural America was pretty lawless, especially in the Midwest.
My great grandfather James Keeling fought in the Civil War Battle " Defender of The Bridge" in Strawberry Plains TN id appricate any information you might have on him please he is burried in East Lawn Cemetery in Bristol, VA his hand he lost in the battle is burried in someones yard in Strawberry Plains, TN
the media portrays that image, and folks have just accepted it for decades. But there are many, many more feuds far more violent than the Hats and McCoys.
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Excellent episode sadly I did not learn of Sergeant York in school but from watching television Saturday afternoon when I was a kid. Even then I wondered why I had never heard. Thanks for sharing good teacher j.d
Another great story j.d.!!.....you should look into a famous killing/killings here in carter county tn. that had ties to Bledsoe county.....down your way...the 1938 Gouge Tragedy...the judge then was known as well to do man and it still shows today here in east tn.
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I've heard about the Hatfields and McCoys most of my life but this is the first I've heard of the Holbrooks and Underwoods in my 84+ years. Thanks for another great story.
A heck of a nearly forgotten story
I own 60 acres on the Blue Ridge eastern slope in Rappahannock County, Va. I inherited it from my mother, who had inherited it from her father. Her father was an O'Daugherty born in County Cork, who homesteaded and eventually had 45 dairy cows and a thriving farm in the bottom 20. Tough as old shoe leather and the most honest and principled man I ever knew, next to my father..
Strong 💪 bloodlines
He was a Corkman, Cork is referred to as “the rebel county”. I have family in County Kilkenny who are also dairy farmers.
Great Heritage 👊
Be proud of the strength walking around with you.
You are so lucky that you inherited 60 acres! It's something that many people dream about, but most will never see their dreams come true.
I was a little girl in the blue ridge mountains. 60 years ago. I remember going home for supper with a friend. Her grandfather picked us up from school in an old old pickup. We drove and drove and drove up into the mountains. Into another world and life time. I’m still fascinated with the stories as I can picture the scenery.
My great grandfather was an Underwood who married a Holbrook. And yes, the Kentucky/Virginia clans. I’ve never known many Holbrooks, but can verify first hand, and from being one, the Underwoods are a very interesting bunch of characters. Wait ‘til you hear the moonshine stories…
how bout that! Thanks for sharing James
"Wait ‘til you hear the moonshine stories…"
Well don't stop there.
Dude this is funny too because every Underwood I've met had been completely wild (I'm from the same area). I remember partying with a dude who had that last name and thinking he was peculiar, but otherwise charming and fun to be around. About a week later I saw his face on the cover of the local Busted paper.
French/Eversole feud in Perry County. The old home is still standing in the river. You can find bullets and even arrowheads littering the surface
That must be why my great great great grandpa Hiram Underwood went with his family from Virginia to Kentucky. My great grandma who was his granddaughter, Grace Ann decided to leave Kentucky and never look back. 😜
I found this channel by accident - and I am so glad I did! Thank you a million times. Truly enjoying discovering this history.
glad to have you here!
Much feuding grew out of Bushwhacking during the Civil War and it wasn't just up in the Appalacians, it was all over the South East. It did not die out until the 1920s.
Well said
I'm a descendant of the Burchfields of cades cove in the great smoky mountains in Tennessee. Look into the crime they were into in the chestnut flats section of the cove.
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You got another winner with this one, JD, and I enjoyed every minute of it! Take care and enjoy your weekend. I'll see ya on the next one!
Thanks Scott, Preciate you!
When someone from Appalachia tells you they're going to get that SOB they mean it. We do tend to bear a grudge 🤣
exactly
Either that or go make a drug run for more meth
Wow! I could have actually seen that happening. Mountain folk, look at it like, blood is thicker than water. Mess with one of us, you got us all.
Exactly
Wow ! Some serious stuff. Thank you for sharing this. Good or bad, men were men in those days and took action. What a difference today.
Exactly, that’s the one thing I drive to show people, that folks back than we’re a completely different breed, and would fight to survive
The pic used at 8.21 is the famous post-battle photo of a recuperating John Burns, the old civilian who fought against the Confederates at Gettysburg in 1863,
Good eye!
My father was born in kentucky 1948, i was born in Australia. Only ever visited my fathers family once, so i love to hear these stories.
We are glad to have you here my friend. Incidentally, my sister in law lives in Adelaide
As a Kentucky native, we have a lot of these kind of stories.
Great historical non fiction, this was well made. Great content
Thank you Sir!
you have the perfect voice for tales like this.🍻
Thank you so much ❤️
Mr. JD my grandparents on my mom's side was from Kentucky, they were married in a cornfield grandma was 16 grandpa was 18. Anyway it was told to me I'm related to the McCoy's.
how bout that!
There still is places in these hills that you do not want to get lost in . You will end up as hog food. They will eat anything )
yup
Mt people are mostly reasonable ti
Just don't cross them
All those Appalachian feuds were essentially an extension of the violent border warfare that raged all across the Celtic realms of the British Isles for centuries up until the early-mid 17th Century, before being transported to the American backcountry.
From along the English-Scottish border to the battlefields of Ulster in Northern Ireland raiding parties & savage battles were endemic & a common occurrence. Those from those regions who began leaving in droves during the early-mid 1700s before disembarking along an East Coast port & making their way to the Colonial frontier brought with them to the New World many clannish traits, customs & warlike attributes that they had been cultivating for generations back in Celtic Britain (Western Europe's premier warrior races from the late Medieval Era to the mid 1700s, including the Gaelic Irish & the western Scots Highlanders!).
And although the link with the Old Country was largely broken even after two generations of relocation a bond still existed, spiritual, primal & even a cultural one to a degree.
Those rugged Appalachian men depicted above were being haunted & exhorted by the restless ghosts of their bloody Celtic past.
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That's overly romantic, unrealistic, and smacks of ideas of racial purity.
and I little twit thought Hatfields & McCoys, it couldn't get any worse. Goodness gracious what's going on in that corner of the US. Great storytelling, as always. Thank you for your stories. always great 😘
the Hatfields and McCoy's had nothing on these old boys
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller JD thank you for being simply fabulous
I’ve heard this story many times since my ggggrandfather was a brother to Squire Holbrook.
You know more about it than I do. Excellent research JD. You tell a story better than anyone I’ve ever heard.
Thanks for send me all sorts of information on this story, I learned a lot researching it, hope everyone enjoys it!
and mine is Underwood. Our clan remains close to our kin.
Yeah it's a story alright keeping the divisiveness going into the 21st century in order to take this country down.
I've never seen anyone indicate generations with ggg... before. Great idea. This is the way it should always be done.
@@ArchFundy agreed
I was born in Rowan County, Kentucky. I live in Rowan County now. However, I have never heard this story before. Carter County is next to Rowan County. This does sound much worse than the Feud that took place in Rowan County. Thank you for this video.
This feud took place before the Rowan County feud with also included the Underwood Family
Thats because the Yankee Press did not cover it, just like this feud the Black Patch War in west Ky made that Hatfield McCoy fued look like a barroom tussle
@@GhostRider-sc9vu😮😬
Same thing here in our place during 80's our clan has a feud with another clan. my father and all uncles always had a gun on them
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Well standing on the outside looking in,
it seems to me Gorges nephew was innocent . They had no proof he stole that horse. Even though Squire Holbrook was friends with the owner. Thier the ones who started this fued with out any hard proof. It seems to me ole Gorge Underwood and his family was just trying to survive. I think there were some animosity in town against the Underwoods before the fued started. Definitely some underlying prejudice.
As I researched this story and put it all together- I came to the same conclusion
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller I like the way you think. Have a great day JD.
James Deen - It could easily be thought that the feud just started after The Recent Unpleasantness. But as another has suggested here, it probably started many generations before that in Scotland or wherever. Sometimes the insanity takes on a life of its own until nobody really remembers exactly what or who started it. But my own historical studies tend at day's end to lay it at the feet of ancient imperialism. Divide and conquer has always been a favored method of invaders. At one time england held about a quarter of the planet in its sway, and not all the reverberations have gone silent to this day.
That was incredible, a great story well told. There's two sides to every story but I'm finding it hard to side with the Holbrooks.
Me too
In most of these feuds between "I am/was for slavery" people vs "I'm not/wasn't for slavery" people... The pro slavery ones were the usually the bigger pieces of sh*t...
No shock really.
You can fall asleep listening to these BC of the calm voice ❤
Thank you Joy- listen to them every night, it supports the channel!
I can’t get enough of your excellent channel! Looking forward to your next history lesson. ❤️👍🏻
Thank you Catherine
"history lesson"?!
@@oldtimer7635 lets see your video on the topic
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Someone posts a short video, with no sources and some call it a history lesson!
Me and my family are from Carter County. It's where I still live today.
Heard about this ol' family feud growing up. Good job! Ur one helluva storyteller!
Thanks Justin!
No!!!! It's time for cutting the head of the rattle snake. George Underwood was invincible, how many times was he shot? I lost count. Thanks JD, I was on the edge of my seat.
It’s a heck of a story!
I just love these stories that you tell so beautifully. All the best from the land down under.
Thank you Marie!
I reckon the feuds came from the old country. Scotland. There were clan feuds for centuries.
Probably right
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Probably wrong. They are not Scottish surnames.
@@mustelidpeterderwood is both Scottish and English surname.
Accordig to Ancestry in 1891 there were 166 Underwood families living in Scotland and about 15,000 in the rest of the UK. It is an English surname that is found very occasionally in Scotland. Please refrain from making every thing Scottish.I would never dream of saying that Stewart is an English surname, enen though there are many thousands in England.@@scotoftheanarchic.7903
The Appalachian mountains and the Scottish highlands are also part of the same mountain range, just part of it is under the Atlantic
I would love to have a big farm like that and the equipment to keep it in shape
me too!
I am amazed at the wounds these people survived without the benefits of the modern ER and intensive care wards. But also that rural people especially mountain folk had a lot of practical knowledge with intimate knowledge of plants and other available things to treat illness. Also the firearms of the days, especially the handguns had a lot less velocity producing less tissue damage with hollow point pistol bullets being something for the future.
Well said
How about those women folk? Standing off 30 men for 19 days was very impressive!
Exactly! Bad a** women for sure
Southerners consisted of both pro-confederates and pro-unionists. Many feuds continued in communities way after the Civil war was over. Thanks for this story.
yes indeed, thanks for watching and commenting
Seems there are always people who are always ready and willing to fight, and they don't seem to need a good reason... things haven't changed all that much... now it's mostly "civilized" feuding, but can be just as deadly in one way or another.
Thanks JD for sharing another fascinating story from our history 😎👍
Well said Kathy! Have a good en
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Thanks... you too 👍
People in Appalachia are still really territorial when you're in the back woods.
@@BoomerElite4u Maybe it's in their genes 😁
Just found your channel and I love it!
Consider me a new and happy subscriber 😎
Welcome ❤️
This is the first story I have heard from you. I really enjoyed hearing you tell it and you have a new subscriber. I live in East Tennessee just below the KY state line and I've never heard of this feud. Thanks so much for the content and I look forward to watching your other vids.
Glad to have you here!
Wow I was looking for new fued stories and you delivered great story
its a heck of a story
I like stories like this keep’em comin Storyteller if possible. Ones like this one and you telling it like you do seems like I’m there. Be safe brother and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
thanks brother!
I've been watching all of you Appalachian stories, and really enjoying them. These stories would make a great series. I hope someone picks up on that one day. You also have a great voice! I realized that I wasn't following you, and now I am!
That would be awesome if they did, I have so many more stores I want to tell
I have to agree with you!! It would make. A Wonderful series! That would make to much sense too busy making garbage these days!!🤣
Well done, Squire Holbrook is my 1st Cousin 4 X Removed.
How bout that!
Most people fail to realize how strong a family network was in the 1800's
The larger your family was the stronger your family was
Things didn't really begin to change untill Henry ford started ford motor company before then most people never went more than 50 miles from there home so it was common that a family could be 30 people or more strong anywhere in the country but the auto mobile changed all that now family's could be 30 40 50 strong but be all over the state so it is my belief maybe in error but I believe the automobile was the end of the clan wars
There's a reason they called the road out of Appalachia to the automobile factories "the hillbilly highway"
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller don't think I've ever heard that one before but I'm listening please explain
@@GeorgiaRidgerunner too many thoughts to type here, but I have a video coming on the whole subject
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller ok then be waiting on it
There is a Holbrook farm south of Ft Wayne, Indiana on US 27. Would be interesting to see if there is any connection? Indiana is not too far from KY. Could be distant relatives. Will have to ask my Mom. They are her relatives on her moms side.
Could be
Love how these genteel mountain folks settle a dispute....when it's over... it sure is over....done and dusted....
They didn’t play games
How in the living hell do you have less than 100k subs?!?! That just seems criminal!
I know right? Appreciate your support! Hope I get there soon!
Lord have mercy this was a sad story but that's how it is in Appalachia
its a true story my friend
I figured it was true it sure was rough it those days
@@myersparanormal yes indeed
Excellent production! I live in southern WV where I was born almost 65 years ago. And I knew nothing of this feud! I love my family but I've never been that " blood is thicker than water" kind of person. Because I've seen my relatives be in the wrong. I know things were different back then but I still know families with that clannish attitude. They usually can't get along with each other but if a outsider crosses them it's hell to pay! Thanks JD.
Thanks Brad- back then- like your kin or not- you needed them to survive, just like Elwin in this story- he stayed out of the feud completely and still got killed
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller - The innocent are swept up with the guilty in civil conflict however localized or spread. That war obviously grew out of the previous one. RIP, Elwin.
@@TheAppalachianStorytellerst out of curiosity and maybe I missed it but were both families on the same side in the Civil War or who was who in that War? I heard the Jefferson Davis comment, last words that man spoke, but I couldn't tell which family is on what side. I saw this coming from the start of the video but never heard it before.😂
Ain’t that the truth. They don’t like each other and don’t like outsiders either. I know a family like this and I’m in Florida. Never met a more two faced scheming bunch in my life. 😂
@@vakkerdame8557 Yep!
Awfully good enjoyed it on the ride from work
Preciate ya brother!
Oh....I forgot to say thanks JD for another great story. You were right, it did knock my socks off. Enjoyed.
Have a good en!
This story was intense. It sounds like it was a mini Civil war. Thank you JD.
It was a mini civil war!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Did the North win again ? Were the traitors executed this time so we don't have to put up with their race hate ?
@@TheAppalachianStorytelleris there a movie of this incident??
I live on the Rowan and Carter County line. Fort Underwood was located not far from me at all, or so I've been told. I knew OF this feud, but I'd never really researched it. So I thoroughly enjoyed this.
Thanks Joe !
Loooord what another EXTRY GOOD'N brother!!! Can't wait to see more. God bless and have a good'n JD!
preciate you Jared!
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Can you do a segment on my family. The Shelton laural massacre. They matched them to Knoxville from north Carolina during the war over salt. The salt trade was huge. Thanks take a look at history from the mountains of Appalachia. Thanks
Btw they killed them all
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Think the Clay County War would disagree.
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great piece of history you broght us. i don't know how i never got the notification it came out. i hope i have remedied that by going back and selecting all notifications. you Sir are the best storyteller i have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Storytelling is a dying art but people like you are its very lifes blood. Thank You for everything you do. Peace and Love
Thanks so much Marty!
Back in those days there probably wasn't much if any way around situations like that. But people need to think twice when they start itching for another civil war today. Hard to say anyone 'wins' one of those. My grandparents and gg's were forced out of Ireland during that civil war, the spark of which was one single vote against the treaty, even though Collins made it clear the treaty was only to buy time for the country to recover and resume. Dev broke with him bc he was the main rival for national leadership; as Dante alluded, better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven. .... But hate is its own reward, I guess.
Well said Frosty- for me- I find it interesting how all the newspapers portrayed the Underwood’s as the bad guys in this war- when I feel like the Holbrooks were- at a minimum- just as guilty
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller - Blessed are the peacemakers though, right? I'm always impressed with people who can manage to keep their wits when others are losing theirs. (not to be mistaken as pacifist - no Fenian is.)
The Irish civil war is small potatoes im afraid today. WW1 was around that time then WW2 nobody remembers a wee scuffle in Ireland with few casualties and some bombs. It means alot to me personally as a Scots man born n bred but in the world view its forgotten though it was longer and more bitter than most
@@sanderson9338 - Pardon what's meant as a gentle correction, friend. Apparently you're unaware of the intensity of this ongoing struggle, perhaps since the GFA Gerry Adams led managed to tamp down the worst of the war. Sinn Fein is now the largest party in the north, working diligently for a border referendum, now expected to be called this decade. Even before the GFA though, Gerry could fly to the US, briefly speak before a 'Friends of SF' crowd, and raise large funds for non-violent political activities 'back home'. I'm 2nd-gen Irish American, and the bulk of my estate when I die will go guess where? You're innocently speaking from a Scotsman's perspective, I from a different one. We want our 6 counties back, and in God's time shall have them. :) But as a person with uncomfortably close historical proximity to civil unrest, I'm duly alarmed when I hear anyone beating war drums. Humanity needs to grow out of its adolescence if we're to survive. My prayers for American sanity shall never cease.
@@frostyfrances4700 Arguing over borders and countries is outdated we are on the earth our major priority is the governments banks etc not a small piece of Britian thats loyal to its core to the British political systems, its flags,rule and governance. Many away 2nd gen donators dont know what they on about imo. No offence mate.
Excellent history Thank you for all your hard work
It's much appreciated
Thank you Stone Reaper
This is one of the most awesome non-fiction part of History, that everyone should see. We are Prideful yet we still are looked as the worst of the worse…If anything, we all know our Mountains, and only 1 or 2 police are allowed to come in the Mountains, and since they are feeding the Officer, Officers, they would bring a box or 3 of liquor. They had the Moonshine, but they liked the other liquors also…Then they were given a Family escort out of that Holler, and they almost shit themselves. ALL. the Law found out Quick, what happens when you cross them…They know the ones whom we cannot see, and come to eat or worse. Hell, they still have the most Evil, and Polarizing chosen ones, like the Wizards. Don’t believe Me? Do your damn research, or come through around the Bends…Make any right of the first 3 turn offs by the gas station is the best, but Tread lightly… bring tobaccos, give Respect, it will be giving back. They Love the Liquors,gifts for their Children, and they LOVE the sweets, candy.Take Care, and be Respectful!
well said my friend
Really enjoyed this documentary. Great old time sounding narration 👍🏻
Thanks Nick!
So very sad. A lesson on what holding a grudge can do.
This was downright hate and seeking power
I thought the people of the Appalachian mountains were Scots Irish Underwood's and Holbrook are very English surnames Great story thanks 👍🏻
Thanks Richard
Exactly what I thought. Hatfield is another. In fact the 1790 census says that 83% of the surnames in the Appalachian states were of English origin. I do believe a false history has been created to reduce the English to minor players.
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Yep if you repeat a myth enough it becomes the truth
Good morning my friends, great story to start off a great Saturday. Thank you J.D. Y'all stay safe out there 🙏
Thank you Big Iron! Had a good one brother!
Just found your channel, that was gripping I really enjoyed it! Thanks 👍 🤠
Glad to have you here Misty!
It’s the Kentucky mafia crime family
exactly!
Glad I bumbled upon this channel. Great stories. Thanks.
Welcome aboard!
So not much has changed then? Great production , some of them may be my ancestors. I’m Scottish with Irish blood
Thanks so much, have a good en
Very unlikely that they were of Scottish descent. So when were Underwood and Holbrook Scottish surnames. Please do some research.
That was a great story JD.. seems like not much has changed in this world.. such a terrible way to live and die !
Thanks so much Lori, have a blessed day
I'm glad they didn't have any automatic weapons
For real though!
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Thank you for the story
It sounds like a mountain full of pussycats for men but if they were only picking off each other you just sit back and wait it out
Wars have a bad habit of spreading.
That style of fighting was well known tactics back in those days- taught to them by the natives
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller IIndians used those tactics in self defense against people stilling their land. These men used it because they were thugs and bullies. Big difference.
@@gmanette188 Im just telling you where they learned the skills
@@gmanette188 - And JD knows that; while trying not to speak for him, I don't believe he'd ever advocate for thugs and bullies. You probably weren't suggesting otherwise; but if you're new in these here parts, rest assured he's an honorable soul. Why, he even puts up with ME!
Thanks for all your good work... it's great! On the idea of deadly feuds, would you consider covering the Tragedy at Fayerdale (Virginia) sometime?
if you have any links, names, dates, etc... please email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com
My ancestry goes deep into America and it definitely has been a conflict like the war of the states. My my family and ancestry is spread across the mid eastern States from Indiana to Florida.. every state that touches.. Indiana Kentucky Virginia West Virginia the Carolinas Tennessee georgia-alabama Florida the states in-between such as Mississippi Missouri..
Strong bloodlines
So it all started because his hot headed son couldn't take a joke.
I have family along the Appalachians from Virginia all the way down south to the mountain chains terminus in McCalla Alabama @ Tannehill state park. Ain't much changed really. I don't reckon there would be any deadly feuds over a silly joke or a fatted pig in my family though. I can however tell you that there's 2 things you don't mess with.. our dogs or our kids.
Aside from that hell, we all get along just fine.
yeah, he thought it was an insult... and a mans honor was all he had back then
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Right 👍 and it's difficult for people to wrap their heads around how the civil war affected people then. Those were some deep wounds that stayed open for decades afterwards
Nice choice of soundtrack! Ps. Impressive loyalty of the women and kids! To stay with a dead body for 19 days, low on food and water... Man, you realise it was no joke about this people! If the women and kids are thay way, man are way more scary than the storry tells!
Thanks so much on all points! I work hard on the music being a musician myself. And yes... the WOMEN in this story holding off a group of blood thirsty assassins for 19 days! Wow!
The picture at 8:19 is of John Burns, the civilian who fought at Gettysburg.
yup!
As a fan of both Soundtrack scores and the heaviest of metal music, I will be taking a closer look at the Mini Vandals and Brian Bolger.
look at Mini Vandals... they are legit
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller In the process and thanks for turning me on to them in maybe the last channel on earth I would expect it 🤘🤘🤘🤘
The feud I had heard of is the Natfield and McCoy Feud. I thought that one was bad. I have never heard of the Underwood and HolBrook feud. The Underwood and Holbrook feud seems worse. Family grudges? I have one family line who hold grudges if you cross them. I know of other families if you fight one of their family members you end up fighting the whole family klan.
yes sir, the Hats and McCoys were made famous by the media, but there were several feuds that were far, far more deadly
I always appreciate the scenery in your videos! I know that's your personal work. Always beautiful❤
Thank you, I work hard on those shots, thanks for noticing
First time watching 👍🏿just subscribed
Growing up all i heard about was Hatfield and McCoy feud. This was way more violent and way more interesting. Will be looking up what else you have 🙏🏿❤️
preciate that brother, welcome to the channel! feel free to dig in, especially the "Appalachias Deadliest" series on my channel if you like outlaws and feuds. By the way I have another feud coming out next Saturday that would make the hats and mccoys blush. Stay tuned
Wow unreal story !! It was brutal back then
You got that right
Bed-ridden for 2 years, only to die from the wound in the end?!? Was he afraid he was destined for hell...? I'da put myself outta my misery after a few weeks or months.
aint life something?
So what happened to all the kin of the underwoods after the feud being the last fight was him and the women and one of his sons
Great question
This was amazing! Your storytelling is engrossing, I was on the edge of my seat! New sub! Thank you😊
Thank you! Glad to have you here
I have to say this is in the top 3 channels I enjoy. You are a great storyteller. Keep up the amazing work! 🤙
Thank you Mikey !
My daddy grew up in Fancy Gap and the family BOOTLEGGED. Daddy saw his uncles cut a man up against a brick wall when he was 17. He was born 1920.
People don't usually stop and think about it, but even through the Great Depression, much of rural America was pretty lawless, especially in the Midwest.
My great grandfather James Keeling fought in the Civil War Battle " Defender of The Bridge" in Strawberry Plains TN id appricate any information you might have on him please he is burried in East Lawn Cemetery in Bristol, VA his hand he lost in the battle is burried in someones yard in Strawberry Plains, TN
If I run across any, ill let you know
@TheAppalachianStoryteller thank you are you related to Bud Phillips that wrote the book about Bristol TN
And here I was thinking it was only the Hatfields and McCoys!
the media portrays that image, and folks have just accepted it for decades. But there are many, many more feuds far more violent than the Hats and McCoys.
👍👍 thank you JD
Preciate you Larry
My God these people were MEAN!
you aint wrong...
JD THIS IS THE BEST STORY EVER MY GOD MY MAN YOU SHOULD TALK TO KEVIN COSTNER AND ASK HIM TO DO A FILM ON THESE TWO FAMILIES AMAZING STORY LOVE YA JD
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That story made me sad .
Most folks don’t know it- but this feud had far more violence thank the hatfeild McCoy feud
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Hatfield McCoy feud is more famous because it went on for decades. Probably the longest feud on the mountain.
@@earlofsmeg and have billion dollar corporations running dinner shows about the feud probably doesn't hurt too
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller nope, it doesn't.
I hate humanity sometimes
Me too
Thats crazy grew up in bordering boyd county and have never heard this before
True story my friend
show me as many ads as you need TH-cam. id go out of my way to use their more expensive competitors if needed. if you weren't so greedy id pay the money. double the cost the subscription should be.
Excellent episode sadly I did not learn of Sergeant York in school but from watching television Saturday afternoon when I was a kid. Even then I wondered why I had never heard. Thanks for sharing good teacher j.d
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you Elizabeth, have a blessed day
Amazing stories, but sad ending..hoping those children and women were not killed by Holbrook, but i highly doubt..
Indeed a rough bunch of folks
The Underwood's brought this on themselves
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Another great story j.d.!!.....you should look into a famous killing/killings here in carter county tn. that had ties to Bledsoe county.....down your way...the 1938 Gouge Tragedy...the judge then was known as well to do man and it still shows today here in east tn.
If you have any info, links on this story- email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com
"the powerful combination of whiskey and cards" love
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Great piece of US history. Surprised they havent made a movie on it.
It would make a great movie