I Lost Over a Hundred Million - Law & Order
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From Season 5, Episode 9 "Scoundrels" - Briscoe and Logan investigate when an underhanded lawyer is killed while probing an equally bad financier targeted for a class-action suit.
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McCoy was right... The jury remembered "14,000 lies". That was a key phrase which ultimately let to a conviction.
Telling a group of people that the response to them losing their money is to "Grow Up" really wasn't the brightest idea.
True... However did you read based their decision on McCoy's 14,000 lies. That kind of destroyed the defendant's credibility.
I think it was more the fact that he said he lost 100 million dollar with less emotion that you or I would use when saying we lost ten bucks! Which means that loss was not going to affect his life in the slightest while the 14k people he swindled got their lives destroyed!
This won't happen in real life because he was convicted of murder he didn't commit! It's a fictional TV show where somehow justice is served by good writing scripts!!
@@NeoFreshair in real life, the judge might well set aside the verdict. It happens.
Uh no offence but you do realize that he instigated a murder right!?
"Perfect?! Perfect would have been if I never heard of him. Because you see then I would be living in a three bedroom house in a nice neighborhood and I would be able to watch my children riding their bicycles in the driveway."
This line makes me feel for him so much. Envisioning his life the way it could have been. The way it should have been.
I love my Saturdays because these legendary old Law & Order clips get uploaded. 😊
Is there anyway to get both, or all pieces of each episode? I hate seeing the police do their work to not see the court ending, or vice versa, missing the beginning.
mccoy's smug face when he won was enjoyable. stone on the other hand, stayed true to his name, stone face. a true emotionless terminator
That look Adam gave Jack...
"What's that supposed to mean?"
WHOA!
Yeah, but in this case McCoy was right lol 😆
I invested in a company that seemed, and was mentioned in accredited financial magazines that they were trustworthy.
When the Lehman Brothers fiasco happened, which also affected the real-estate I invested in, I lost all my money that was supposed to downpay for a house. It took me 10 years to get back up on my feet, and I can thankfully give my wife and son a good life, although without a house as I planned.
Just hope I never meet one of those SOB's again, since I won't guarantee for anything.
As a suggestion....Savings are where you put money for the down payment on a house. Or any other short term needs you may have. Investments are for longer term horizons.
That is why investigation of the business and people running is critical to being smart and not investing in a leaky rust bucket.
Techrat3D : This is exactly why I don’t invest. I can’t stomach the (many) inherent risks...
M&M so you live with the certain risk of inflation rather than the potential risk in the market? May I suggest a professional financial advisor?
Don Kemp : Yes. And thanks for the advice- but I’m not sure I even have enough money to pay a an appointment with a financial adviser LOL (sad LOL). You make a good point- but I am very risk averse. So there’s that...
The rich guy was dumb here. He was an unpopular defendant with a reasonable line of defense (dunno if accurate, but there was at least reasonable doubt here). He should have asked for a bench trial and had a judge decide instead of a jury. The defendant always has that option if they think a jury will rule on emotions as opposed to the law.
Why did he take the stand? That's how the defendant's past convictions were effectively submitted as evidence, by the prosecutor asking him about his convictions.
@Angelous Bacon ? dont realy undersnad this one. You mean Jury is objective?
Watch Bill Gates testifying in Congress during the antitrust probe in 1998. He comes off as a smug and sarcastic know-it-all. You just know that his lawyers were telling him to dial it down behind the scenes. But when you think you are right, and your fortune tells you you are, sometimes you'll go against good advice.
@@Treblaine 1. He's basically Bernie Madoff in a way. His convictions are so "public" that it's gonna be tough finding a jury pool ignorant of the fact that he was in prison for it.
2. His crimes are an irremovable part of the testimonies against him. The very reason he "hired" the man to kill Kopinsky is because Kopinsky was blackmailing him of money that he had swindled. If I was a robber and after I got out of prison, I got revenge on the grocery clerk who put me in jail by beating him up, they can't just ignore that I was convicted of robbery since the circumstances of it directly led to the assault.
@ Geotpf And yes, it actually is sloppy screenwriting that he didn't ask for a bench trial. The judge may or may not have liked him, but an oath to the law may have saved him on flimsy evidence. McCoy relied on hatred of swindlers to convict the man, not actual proof. Tappan goaded the man into killing Kopinsky but he certainly didn't hire him. Morally, he's guilty. Legally, McCoy abused the CJ System. Thankfully it was only against a Willard Tappan.
RIP and Godspeed Michael Zaslow... Long live Roger Thorpe of Guiding Light.
My uncle used to say "Roger Thorpe is the meanest man alive."
Also the first man to die on Star Trek, in the network premier episode "The Man Trap".
Yeah this dude had ALS no.
Amen...the man was a silver fox! RIP
@@LordZontar Indeed! Didn't he meet her on Wrigley's Pleasure Planet?
I love how accurately they portray the blitzing speed of the law and the order...the justice system wraps up every case in about an hour, 45 min without commercials... The law and the order is strong!
I miss the interaction that Adam Schiff was a part of. He had some of the best interactions on the show and in particular within the Ben Stone era.
I was more of a McCoy era guy than a Stone guy, as far as the DA's office goes.
I agree with you Dino Jay...Adam Schiff ran that Manhattan DA’s office with an iron fist...
McCoy did what he wanted to win the cases. He decided that any moral opinion or advice that could stem from Adam Schiff was practically meaningless in his pursuit for victories.
Ben Stone was a legit ADA. McCoy is a punk who only cares about appeasing the mob.
Steven Hill once said that his job as Adam Schiff on the show was to sit in his office, drink Scotch and be sarcastic.
: "Heavens to Betsy, Clare. Whata a dreadful thing to say." LOL
The great Michael Zaslow, gone way, WAY too soon due to a horrible disease. He did such a great job playing complex villains (despite being, by all accounts, a lovely man in real life).
2:13 "Sure, I'll take the stand and tell my side of the story. I'm sure I can handle cross-examination."
Famous Last Words ... Especially When Dealing with One (A)DA Jack McCoy
This is peak law and order for me! Season 5, McCoy Kincaid logan briscoe and the criminally underrated adam Schiff. I’m currently on season 13 and I still love law and order but it doesn’t even come close to these days.
I loved what McCoy said to Schiff... "you havent been in a courtroom in a long time...." I thought that was wicked. ! I doubt Ben Stone wouldnt of had the stones to say that to his boss...
Would have
How will Costanza finish the case now without the Kapinsky files!?
the look on his face was priceless
RIP Michael Zaslow Roger Thorpe The Guiding Light . He was an original one of the best.
I love the courtroom with its wood paneling and old time murals.
😂 Jack was right about Adam not being in a courtroom in a while.
Well naturally, and from what I've seen of these clips he would think rich people deserved more linier treatment. Besides when he was an IMF Team Leader he didn't take all the missions he had assigned to him because he had to go home before sunset.
Wow he was roger in guiding light he was a bad guy.
Excellent bad guy
Great catch ole Rog he was a bad guy
Love him
Terrific actor
It's Roger! Who can forget his voice. RIP
Back when this was the best show on TV.
The defense attorney's suit jacket is way too big for him!!
@masakasama he should have had some extra padding then! Wouldn't be drooping off his actual shoulders, looking like a hot mess 😉
Sears off the rack
people usually get them cut wide i nthe shoulders when they are packing
Hey, look at that - The lawyer is James Karen
No he isn’t. He’s Larry Pine who played Roger Gordon Vicki Lord’s lover during her teenage years Father of Megan
I close my eyes and all I can hear is Jeff Goldblum. I know it’s not him but I swear I keep expecting him to say “life finds a way”
Old clips! Classics never get old.
4:43 Yeah, right 😒
R.I.P. Mr Zaslow...great bad guy whether it was on Guiding Light or here.
"Heavens to betsy Claire, what a dreadful idea."
Dude played the *smug* role to the hilt!
I always thought it would be interesting to do a prequel, with a young Schiff as the EADA - I can't imagine who they'd cast, though.
Young schiff as the main prosecutor and a young Ben Stone as his assistant
Or schiff again as prosecutor and Jack McCoy as an assistant
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
All three of actor were on One Life To Live.
The man testifying and the defendant's lawyer were also recurring characters on netflix's house of cards
Love Schiff's "Right, sure!"
That killers testimony should never have been allowed & without it there was no case.
Jack Mccoy is awesome in this series!
I can't imagine having your savings stolen by some dirty rat. I can't really blame that guy for killing him.
I was always disappointed in this episode. As a matter of law, Tappen cannot be convicted. Section 60.22 of the Rules of Evidence for New York State: “A defendant may not be convicted of any offense upon the testimony of an accomplice unsupported by corroborative evidence tending to connect the defendant with the commission of such offense.”
The fact that Tappen benefitted from Kapinsky’s death (since that is true of hundreds of people) and the fact that he spoke to Curran on the phone (since he did not initiate that call) are obviously not enough - Curran easily could have called Tappen just to create a fall-guy.
That sucks bro!
Why murder 2 for a murder for hire?
Too much was skipped from the previous clip we get a clip nbetween the police interview room leading to Kaplin in the courtroom?
Is that Napoleon Dynamite all grown up?
Speaker of the House Bob Birch was a great lawyer here.
From -94. That's like 3 bubbles ago. That's crazy.
so in 1994 we thought corrupt bankers went to jail
if it was 13,500 lies...... one jury member noted after the trial.
i could have excused that, 14k? no way, Guilty
the one in the witness stand with eye glasses did it
the check of her mom found in her jacket and his call logs or cp records fits
"Grow up" yeah, well he'll be doing a lot of that in prison himself.
Bob Birch and Supreme Court Justice Robert Jacobs in the same episode. Is this a HOC reunion?
No because this came first.
@@ebbandflowph No way.
Best show ever
Evil Richman with its magic Pen
That looks like the man that played on Guiding Light if I am not mistaken
That's David Canary, Candy from Bonanza
That's what happens when you trust Rodger Thurop with money 🤣😂
This doesn't feel like it will stand up to an appeal. Another man admitted the murder under oath and the jury were supposed to believe him over the defendant?
It cames to he said he said and jury believed the killer who was wictim of greed
"Nice neighborhood" ... what's that code for?
we all know what it means...
He sounds like Morgan Freedom
Most of the Law and Order highlights provide an important scene, not the conclusion (verdict).
One of my favorite s
is that col trautman as the lawyer
"The Man Trap"
If this was real life, particularly in today’s legal world, the defence would file a appeal for a error in judge instructions to the jury and 50% chance the verdict would be reversed
How were the jury instructions in error? He told them not to consider the previous crimes. Kind of tough to appeal the fact that the jury disbelieved the defendant.
theyd be correct to appeal one way or another, theres nothing in this clip(idk about the full episode) that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the fund manager was responsible for the lawyers death.
@Angelous Bacon Actually you can if it goes to credibility. Defendant lied 14,000 times, hence even though he is not on trial for past crimes, the prosecutor can question the defendant's truthfulness based on past behavior.
@Angelous Bacon
It's all legal. In a courtroom both lawyers are often in a game of 'How much can I get away with telling the jury before a mistrial is declared' in order to convince them.
@Angelous Bacon yup
He will be out on appeal.
Justice destroyed 0 proof of him asking the other guy to kill him and the real killer gets away with it! As far as the money goes, if you cannot afford to lose it, Don't risk it!
nothing to do with the Hucklebuck
For Berine, that was pocket change, My Nephew just got out of jail,he was in jail with Berine, the last few months of Berines life, my nephew pushed him around in a wheel chair, I should have taught my Nephew how to do a ✌ Vulan mind meld to get the Bank Account Numbers out of Berine, Bernie liked fruit cocktail
Bad verdict... in the Ben Stone era it would've come back not-guilty or a hung jury
I remember the episode having rather more evidence but I also haven't seen it in a rather long time.
It doesn't matter what era, it's what ever the writers decide.
Relbl you think tappen shoulda gotten off
@@MrGabeanator for murder? Yes - he should not have been convicted.
In the end it's exactly what was described. When it comes to money, to being swindled and having your life savings lost to a con man, no jury in its entirety or at all is gonna be able to ignore that
When it comes to "investments"... if it's too good to be true, it prob is. This would apply to crypto, meme stocks, currency forex, or buying foreclosures. Greed makes you do stupid things.
It's not that loose monetary policy makes investors into idiots. Loose monetary policy makes idiots into investors. It's always governments fault.
Walmart hello no!
There's no way this is going to survive appeal
Imma be honest, I kind of wish McCoy lost this case. It would’ve gave him a sharp reminder that you are there to provide facts so when you rest your case you can be assured that the jury is basing their verdict on the truth and the law. Not because of how their eyes looked. This was early on too so it could’ve helped McCoy see that he still has things to learn and even though Schiff hasn’t been in a courtroom in a long time he still knows his way around one. If you know what I mean…
: I didn’t know former House Speaker Boehner was an actor prior to his career in Congress.
That seems to be a pattern in the Law and Order franchise. A former senator was a DA there, can't remember his name
That's what I said! He looks like John Boehner but also Bob Birch from House of Cards.
O Tappin my Tappin
Can I ask is he the narrator for dragnet
is who
You mean the jury foreman? It does sound like him.
David Landon yes
Leigh Silver the jury Forman
Hammerschlägen M okay it sounds like him lol
Bo Buchanan's father in law defending Bo Buchanan's father in law.
I shared a house with Barrister for 10 years He told the Irish Courts are nothing like Law & Order its great TV but not real
Every country has their own laws and court systems some countrys use jury some don't and have judge decide the punishment
Too bad they don't show full episodes anywhere, law and order the classics at least? :(
WETV or Sundance has them.
Peacock app has all of them.
@@initaammons4447 for a paid subscription... however, one can get a 1 week trial, free, which is what I did to binge on the series !
On the Law and Order wiki the killer is perjuring himself that Tappan didn't tell him to kill.... this is miscarriage of justice if not outright intentional lying and abuse.
Roger Thorp
Well, that was satisfying.
Hey Joe
To think the defense attorney would latter run for Congress and end up as Speaker of the House! ;)
Yep and hopefully Adam shift will be in federal jail during Trump's second term for the lies and conspiracies he has pushed.
i believe that judge should be the only one who decide if a person is guilty or not ! jury rules on emotion
You don't understand law very well, do you? Jury trials require a unanimous verdict so you would need all 12 jurors to "rule on emotion" in the same direction. If even one juror dissents and they fail to reach a verdict it's a mistrial and they pick a new jury and try again. Compare that to one judge possibly ruling on emotion with no checks? 1/12 vs. 1/2 odds, guess which way I'm swinging?
@@jeremygilbert7989 In the US yes, not every country uses a jury
Look, Imma be real. I'm slow af.
The dude with the glasses, the one who actually killed Kapinski. He was charged too, right? What did he get? A plea deal? Wtf happened?
If all you have is $1 million then losing that is losing everything. If you have, say a billion dollars, then losing $100 million is still leaving you with plenty. "Grow up" wasnt the best thing to say.
Did this man drink a cup of squid ink before coming into court? Look at the state of his teeth
There wasn’t enough evidence and the jury was biased and used it to convict him! I hope the other guy got immunity from it because he was ripped off either way
It's not about how much money you lost in absolute numbers, but about what % of your total weath you lost. The rich can make financial mistakes bigger then the poor and recover, while the poor may lose less in term of absolute number but get wiped out and cannot recover. This "grow up" is the arrogance of the rich.
Case was rigged
Jews at the Washington Post want to cancel this masterpiece.
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