Could reiners be trained without hyperflexion? At 6:51 - so much tension on the neck ligament, restrained breathing, horse is showing obvious signs of pain and discomfort when hyperflexed at the poll. I just wonder... there has to be some other, alternative method that does not involve putting horses in such a position, but gets the results. The subsequent anatomical and biomechanical implications are just not worth it.
They are bred that way mostly. Naturally a lot of reining or reined cow horses carry their head low. It allows them to use their hind end more and be more athletic. If a horse has a high head it’s a lot harder to get a nice stop on them or spin. But it’s mostly natural for horses who are bred for reining. It’s not anything concerning and does not mean that the horse is being mistreated.
Total submission and hyperflexion. Does it get results? Yes, and it produces an equine robot. Rider says he doesn't know anyone who would like to be pushed around by the spur. Good movement is produced by many classic horsemen without spuring and hyperflexion. But we humans have huge egos that need to be satisfied so we go out and demonstrate to other humans how good we are at dominating horses who if they had a choice would not participare in our nonsense. Yeah, I expect to get all kinds of haters for these remarcks and I couldn't care less. At 77 I've seen a ton of crazy things done with horses and have done my own share of stupid equine malarkey to know 90% of this stuff is nonsense.
Thank god, someone with common sense ... Everyone is talking about dressage but these guys are at least as bad as the Rollkur dressage riders. It breaks my heart to see ppl praising this kinda horse treatment
He’s extremely fit don’t worry. Try to working out 🏋️♀️ an our a day 5 days a week for 3 years, a good diet and supplements for joint health, muscle recovery and collagens. Then comment again
The horse Is well trained as I see, but what do you suggest for the common problem of the anticipation in going too fast reaching the fence. Thanks
Beautiful, thank you for sharing ...I find your style and explanations refreshing and inspirational ...
You can never watch any of Jonathan videos too many times. I pick up on something new each time I watch them!!!
Could reiners be trained without hyperflexion? At 6:51 - so much tension on the neck ligament, restrained breathing, horse is showing obvious signs of pain and discomfort when hyperflexed at the poll. I just wonder... there has to be some other, alternative method that does not involve putting horses in such a position, but gets the results. The subsequent anatomical and biomechanical implications are just not worth it.
Interested to know which bit you are using for this video
Curious do you ask for the stop at a certain point in the stride?
Absolutely! At the moment in the stride that the hind feet hit the ground
@@horsetrainingpro thank you sir
I’m watching more and more and filling my toolbox with effective tools. Just need to perfect them further. TY for the content
That’s awesome!
Love it!
Brent Grantham Great, thanks Brent!
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Why is the head so low??
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They are bred that way mostly. Naturally a lot of reining or reined cow horses carry their head low. It allows them to use their hind end more and be more athletic. If a horse has a high head it’s a lot harder to get a nice stop on them or spin. But it’s mostly natural for horses who are bred for reining. It’s not anything concerning and does not mean that the horse is being mistreated.
Total submission and hyperflexion. Does it get results? Yes, and it produces an equine robot. Rider says he doesn't know anyone who would like to be pushed around by the spur. Good movement is produced by many classic horsemen without spuring and hyperflexion. But we humans have huge egos that need to be satisfied so we go out and demonstrate to other humans how good we are at dominating horses who if they had a choice would not participare in our nonsense. Yeah, I expect to get all kinds of haters for these remarcks and I couldn't care less. At 77 I've seen a ton of crazy things done with horses and have done my own share of stupid equine malarkey to know 90% of this stuff is nonsense.
Thank god, someone with common sense ... Everyone is talking about dressage but these guys are at least as bad as the Rollkur dressage riders. It breaks my heart to see ppl praising this kinda horse treatment
Slow and steady takes too long to get the horses ready for the futurities, meaning less $ in their pockets.
He’s too HOT. Watching him breathe makes me feel bad for him. ☹️
He’s extremely fit don’t worry. Try to working out 🏋️♀️ an our a day 5 days a week for 3 years, a good diet and supplements for joint health, muscle recovery and collagens. Then comment again