This is what they want you to believe. And with good reason. But the whole terrorist narrative is a double-edged sword. They use fear to control the population. And most terrorism is state sponsored. I refuse to live my life in fear any way you cut it.
@@GH-oi2jfoh it absolutely still is in the US too. The pocket knife I always keep in my backpack got past US security on accident, I had forgotten to take it out before getting to the airport. German security caught it when I went through for connecting flights. US airport security is still a joke unfortunately.
They are rare but seem plentiful with copious media coverage. There were ~89 stowaway incidents in 2011 (earliest available data). Or about one every 4 days. They're rare but not unheard of. As with anything though the more media coverage the more it may seem like the world is ending. Even though it's nothing new.
They probably got into the wheel well in Jamaica. Doesn't look like the pre and post flight checks between there and the when the plane landed in Florida.
@@sparkysmalarkey No the plane went from NY to FLL. Doesn't mean they weren't in there the whole time but no one really checked when the plane came from Jamaica.
Maybe not. Some people have no idea how a commercial aircraft works. Maybe they paid someone in baggage handling to get into the wheel well not know that it’s not pressurized , or maybe they were lied to by the smugglers. What ever way it happened is tragic , but it needs to be investigated and prevented from happening again because terrorists will exploit this weakness
HUGE SAFETY ISSUE THIS MEANS THAT THE FACT THAT AIR CRAFT ARE NOT BEING PRE-FLIGHTED TSA DOESN'T ALLOW PILOTS TO WALK AROUND AND INSPECT THEIR AIRCRAFT BEFORE THEY TAKE OFF. THIS IS EACH AND EVERY DAY AIRCRAFT NEVER GET INSPECTED!!!!!!
I’m glad they were clear on that. Saying “well sometimes people live” is just gaslighting at that point. Planes fly close to 40k feet and there is just about 0 oxygen that high. 95-99 times out of 100 you will suffocate slowly in cold freezing misery.
Truthfully that moment probably never came.. once the plane reached high altitude temperatures drop below freezing and oxygen levels fall. These guys went from being excited they were sneaking onto the plane and heading for America to cold and sleepy and never woke up.
If you had three brain cells to rub together, did you not realize you were NOT going to survive without sufficient oxygen at 35,000 ft? Not to mention extremely cold temperatures in the winter(-40 F to -60 F) at that altitude?
@ some people have survived, especially the flights from the Caribbean to Florida. One man made it to Spain.. on accident. They probably thought it was a short flight
Pre-Flight checks are conducted (supposed to be) before every flight. No way they made it to the plane's interior without assistance. All security footage needs to be reviewed immediately, and some updated background checks conducted. Unfortunately, they both completely froze long before the plane landed on the first destination.
My question is are people actually making it alive by using landing gears? Why don’t people get it that you die getting crashed and due to lack of oxygen in a 🥶 temps? Did some make it out alive?
And TSA dare asks me to remove MY shoes and liquids...whole humans made it to the plane man. I can barely get on. Shame shame shame airline security. Focused always on the wrong damn thing.
@@x77punk77xYour comment is uncalled for. Very true that “we all” who travel have to be over scrutinized over security which I am totally ok with, but yet here are two individuals who not only got inside the restricted area of an airport, but they gain access to the landing gear, what if they had placed explosives in the landing gear……so you see, is not just about one individual. Safe travels my friend!
It's not heartbreaking, it's darwinism. The landing gear compartment is not pressurized, so they would have had a very small window if they had explosives...
You'd be surprised how easy it would be to sneak a person and or bag thru secure areas and into internal areas including tarmacs. You simply need staff assistance and to hell go all the security measures in place. This is the scary part about this all, there is definitely staff involved in both incidents.
There are usually people watching airplanes land and take off so I'm assuming the amount of unknown bodies is very small or zero. If bodies fall on a building or something it gets found and forensic can tell it fell from high up. Some airports release landing gear over bodies of waters or airports surrounded by swamp land but still there are cameras and air control looking at planes. It's assume that if something large fell off the plane it would be cause of concern.
What are@bobdillaber1195 What are you talking about to be a NEWS Anchor in America 🇺🇸 You have to have a college degree In Communications for starters Then you're giving In House Training too!!! This Newscaster was very knowledgeable and on point explaining the experience of being stowed away in an airplane ✈️ for multiple hours and how the Weather changes thousands of miles into the air can be very deadly to the human body and I learned something from him That's noteworthy and don't blame him for your shortcomings!!
The most disturbing thing to me is that if two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays of an airliner undetected, then a single person could easily smuggle an explosive device into the landing gear bay. Airport security needs to be a lot better at detecting unauthorized people entering the airport and approaching aircraft.
@@crowman-gc1khYep. That's the way it works in the US. Must have that enormous preventable tragedy for anything to be done about preventing another one.
Evidently some people don’t realize there is very little oxygen at 30,000 feet and temperatures are -25 F(-32C)even when it’s 88 F(31 C) on the ground In Kingston. People! You will suffocate and freeze 🥶 solid.
It really is a ticket to death. When pressure's lost in the cabin, the oxygen masks come down. The captain must dive to 10,000 feet so the passengers can breathe without assistance. Shockingly, they were not found when the pilots did their inspection.
@@user-cm8vv7jo9y Yeah, they probably were hiding close by waiting for the pilot to finish his/her inspection. The pilots do their pre-flight walk around well before the plane takes off 🛫. Once the pilot walks up the Jet way stairs. They have plenty of time to sneak in.
This likely occurred in Kingston, Jamaica. The plane "started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
Kingston -> NY -> Salt Lake City -> NY -> Miami -> NY. You think it was not seen by crew inspection in NY, Salt Lake, NY again, AND Miami? Either you have too much confidence in US airport security or too little of that in Jamaica. Let's wait for the details.
Sadly these sorts of stowaways stories have happened before. John Legend dedicated one of his music videos several years ago to the memory of two teenage boys who attempted to get asylum by stowing away in a wheel well of a plane going to I think Belgium but died during the flight.
Aircraft mechanic here. For those contemplating this same stunt, you’ll be crushed dead before the cold and low oxygen gets you. The wheel well has room only for the landing gear when it’s retracted and very little else😣
This makes me think of “The Fifth Element” when the ground crew walks around the plane and uses flamethrowers to remove parasites…how can a pre-flight check not catch this?
From TSA to ground crew, all of them are to be blamed for this breach of security. The ground crew(GC) and pilot do a 360° walk of the aircraft within 10mins after arrival. The departing pilot usually does his own 360° before boarding. However, the GC does the final 360° walk after loading the bags and pulling all equipment from the aircraft. And we all know a lot can happen in a minute, then what about 10? So the hideout very well happened AFTER the "departure" pilot did his 360° because GC basically walks around, not thoroughly. The Pilots are usually the ones that bend down and look in all those little places, they do a thorough check around the aircraft, not GC. So I conclude that it happened after the pilot's 360°. GC and all other Securities are to blame.
@@greglane3978 TSA only operates inside the airport at the security checks. Preventing people from climbing fences onto the tarmac is airport security's job.
This is so sad that people don’t know at altitude there’s not enough pressurized oxygen to breathe, and the temperature can go as low as -50°C. Riding in the well of landing gear is a death sentence.
@@rogerdehaven5603the 2 unalived people in the landing gear proves they didn’t do their job lol. I’ve worked in the airport for over 10 years a man climbed up the baggage belt crawlled through the vents walked across the tarmac bare foot passing muiltple personnel and planes and followed me up an air stairs at the Jfks hardstand.. I couldn’t believe it when I watched them cameras I was shocked to see how easy it was for him to do.😂😂😂 jfk is unsecured always has been.
Right! I was confused. Something isn't right with all of these weird freak deaths. This, New Orleans, Tesla bombing, plane going down in the warehouse. I don't trust it!😢
I've been making a conscious effort to use my phone less. On my way home today, in a place I've lived for 8 months, rural, I thought i passed my turn. I didn't, but i realized I have no clue of my surroundings because I'm immersed in a video or something. Don't know street names, signs, what houses look like as markers. Just a mindless drone going thru life. No more. I'm beginning to reclaim my life. I'm even thinking about going back to the old g.P.S that is not phone based.
Could easily be fake news that they created as they are paving the ground for something else to come. No one can prove it's fake. This will just lead to more security to keep you safe.Which is only ever more restrictive.
This is soooo scary…we really are at risk flying these days. Not that we weren’t before but good grief is airport security lapsing now. I’m losing confidence.
I mean there are so many questions to ask, the least of which is how in the world did they make it onto the runway without being seen? Horrific way to go.
It's one thing to get past security. It's on a whole different level to gain access to the landing gear compartment. Shows that our airport security is NOT GOOD.
This happened right before the last flight before they were found. It's not hard to figure out. A preflight inspection happens before every flight. If they weren't found prior to the other flights, they snuck in before the last flight departed.
This is not good. Very dangerous, especially during these times. Someone with evil intentions could take a plane down. Why is there no security on the tarmac. I get practically stripped searched at TSA but they cannot protect the tarmac?
So this makes 3 dead people in a little more than a week found in landing gear, what is going on with security, they make us go through all the garbage of flying safe with metal detectors, pat down searches, star id, passports ect. And these people somehow get in unnoticed under the plane and into the wheelwells, WTF is going on?????
@@internetguitarist43 This likely occurred in Kingston, Jamaica. The plane "started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. They probably breached the fence and made their way to the aircraft in the middle of the night during a lull in airport operations. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
@@skyhawk_4526it's just as likely to have happened in the US considering this is like the 3rd incident this year and Jamaica wasn't a stop on the previous incidents
It was a pilot program for Economy-Minus: No personal items, no seat selection or seat at all. No WiFi. No climate control, and 7.6 inches of mercury. 😂
Ironic. Because i just watched a video about 2 people who did this years ago. Both passed out, one fell out mid flight. Other was hospitalized upon landing
& we spend how much $$, & put up with how much rudeness & harassment from TSA claiming they're keeping us safe, when unknown people can just hold up inside a plane?
i was gonna say Carry-on in Netflix but yes very similar method where Arnold jumps out of the plane from the landing gear and not going in on the plane…in Afghanistan, 4 years ago before the Taliban take hold the entire airport. this was done as well, clinging to landing gears… if these were ground crew, they know better…there are some who would take a nap in the cargo hold but not in the landing gear.
I would be asking what brought them to a level of desperation that they thought this was a good idea. Because this is what people do when they are desperate.
@coyo, these are Gravy Days compared to what’s coming under your buddy Chump. He’ll sink our economy starting with tariffs, and the global economy will follow quickly.
Unknown, but Jamaica is most likely where they got on. The "plane started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
This happens every year. I rarely hear of anyone surviving that experience. It sounds like the tarmac security and inspections are open to planes being tampered with in a terrorist attempt.
@Ron_B. He was unconscious and fell out and break his leg when the plane landed and came to a stop and his friend fell out in midair couple miles away from the airport.
At least they didn't fall out when they deployed the gear for landing and squish someone's house or car. Could've been worse. Sorry to them for not knowing there's no air up there and it's cold.
Shocked if this ISN'T the case. This most likely occurred in Kingston, Jamaica. The plane "started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
You could hide under a fuel, catering, lavatory, baggage bin off sight. The pilots do a walk around before every takeoff. I am surprised they are crushed when the landing gear retracts after takeoff.
@@737driver8 Yup. There were multiple failures. Airport security measures failed (almost certainly overnight in Kingston Jamaica), but also the ground handling crews and the captain or first officer who performed the exterior preflight inspections (on the first flight as well as the subsequent flights).
You would be surprised, how little space there is in an aircraft wheel well. Most wheel wells I've seen, during a gear retraction, with the gear doors off, there's about maybe about 8" of space around the struts and tires.
Imagine thinking to yourself that there is plenty of extra, wasted space in the landing gear area for you to travel safely in and you know where that area is when the gear is retracted.
Yup. Almost certain. It would have been the easiest place since the security is likely less than in the US and the plane "started its day" there and was probably parked and unattended overnight.
i was on a mountain one time, it was 13,000 feet, I had a hard time getting enough air, and it was cold, at the bottom it was 85 degrees F, idk how anyone could survive at 30k feet
if 2 random people can get to that part of an airplane undetected... imagine what terrorists can do.... airport security is still a joke after 9/11
In Jamaica, anyway.
This is what they want you to believe. And with good reason. But the whole terrorist narrative is a double-edged sword. They use fear to control the population. And most terrorism is state sponsored. I refuse to live my life in fear any way you cut it.
@@GH-oi2jfoh it absolutely still is in the US too.
The pocket knife I always keep in my backpack got past US security on accident, I had forgotten to take it out before getting to the airport. German security caught it when I went through for connecting flights.
US airport security is still a joke unfortunately.
They can get elected
@@DSAK55 LOL
“these stowaway chances are rare” bro this is like the third stowaway story this year and we’re only a week in..
RIP 🪦 Haitian 🇭🇹
I want names or I’m no longer believing these stories. Mockingbird media is too corrupt
They are rare but seem plentiful with copious media coverage. There were ~89 stowaway incidents in 2011 (earliest available data). Or about one every 4 days. They're rare but not unheard of.
As with anything though the more media coverage the more it may seem like the world is ending. Even though it's nothing new.
Can I ask what references you used for this info?
Correct, this is the 3 story in less than a week!
Million dollar question : how are these people getting onto the tarmac and into the plane???
Ding ding ding ding ding
They probably got into the wheel well in Jamaica. Doesn't look like the pre and post flight checks between there and the when the plane landed in Florida.
@@srivkind12 They jumped on in New York though.
@@sparkysmalarkey No the plane went from NY to FLL. Doesn't mean they weren't in there the whole time but no one really checked when the plane came from Jamaica.
i would guess jamaca.. security would not be as tight possibly
Stowing away in landing gear is straight up suicide.
Maybe not. Some people have no idea how a commercial aircraft works. Maybe they paid someone in baggage handling to get into the wheel well not know that it’s not pressurized , or maybe they were lied to by the smugglers. What ever way it happened is tragic , but it needs to be investigated and prevented from happening again because terrorists will exploit this weakness
There are people who have somehow survived but being stuck in -70 degree weather with essentially no oxygen for several hours is never a good idea
HUGE SAFETY ISSUE
THIS MEANS THAT THE FACT THAT AIR CRAFT ARE NOT BEING PRE-FLIGHTED
TSA DOESN'T ALLOW PILOTS TO WALK AROUND AND INSPECT THEIR AIRCRAFT BEFORE THEY TAKE OFF.
THIS IS EACH AND EVERY DAY AIRCRAFT NEVER GET INSPECTED!!!!!!
I’m glad they were clear on that. Saying “well sometimes people live” is just gaslighting at that point. Planes fly close to 40k feet and there is just about 0 oxygen that high. 95-99 times out of 100 you will suffocate slowly in cold freezing misery.
Imagine the moment you realize you just made a horrible mistake, and there's no saving yourself now.
How awful for them.
I'd say tough luck.
Truthfully that moment probably never came.. once the plane reached high altitude temperatures drop below freezing and oxygen levels fall. These guys went from being excited they were sneaking onto the plane and heading for America to cold and sleepy and never woke up.
If you had three brain cells to rub together, did you not realize you were NOT going to survive without sufficient oxygen at 35,000 ft? Not to mention extremely cold temperatures in the winter(-40 F to -60 F) at that altitude?
@ some people have survived, especially the flights from the Caribbean to Florida. One man made it to Spain.. on accident. They probably thought it was a short flight
It really makes you feel confident in airport security systems.
Oh the American people have never felt more confident in the abilities of their government
there is probably a connection between so they know
It’s Jamaica what did you except?
Very confident hey.🙈🤭🤷😬
Cant people just start checking planes before take off? I mean come on, just happened several times in one month
I couldve sworn ive seen similar headlines like this in the last few weeks... Apparently im not wrong. So weird.
Boeing be like... "awwwww do I have to??"
Pre-Flight checks are conducted (supposed to be) before every flight. No way they made it to the plane's interior without assistance. All security footage needs to be reviewed immediately, and some updated background checks conducted. Unfortunately, they both completely froze long before the plane landed on the first destination.
Check for what? Seems like the problem kind of takes care of itself, no?
My question is are people actually making it alive by using landing gears? Why don’t people get it that you die getting crashed and due to lack of oxygen in a 🥶 temps? Did some make it out alive?
And TSA dare asks me to remove MY shoes and liquids...whole humans made it to the plane man. I can barely get on. Shame shame shame airline security. Focused always on the wrong damn thing.
Yes, it’s all about YOU.
typical baby boomer logic on full display
They really only do it in the US.
@@x77punk77xYour comment is uncalled for. Very true that “we all” who travel have to be over scrutinized over security which I am totally ok with, but yet here are two individuals who not only got inside the restricted area of an airport, but they gain access to the landing gear, what if they had placed explosives in the landing gear……so you see, is not just about one individual. Safe travels my friend!
It's not the airline .. It's the airport fault
Hearth breaking! are you kidding me this is a security issue. What if they had explosives? this is outrageous!!!
I agree
Hypothermia,Hypoxia and The bends..smart arent they?
They were employees.
Explosives can be too small and easy to find than a HUMAN BEING.
It's not heartbreaking, it's darwinism. The landing gear compartment is not pressurized, so they would have had a very small window if they had explosives...
Bro what is even the point of all that security at airports if it’s easy to circumvent it. They are lucky these people arnt planting bombs.
If these people climbed in there, this is far from heart breaking. More like terrifying. Meanwhile we all have to remove our shoes to get on the plane
How easy it is to compromise the security of an airport 🤦♂️
Depends on which airline it is
People suffer & die and that’s your reaction.
You'd be surprised how easy it would be to sneak a person and or bag thru secure areas and into internal areas including tarmacs. You simply need staff assistance and to hell go all the security measures in place. This is the scary part about this all, there is definitely staff involved in both incidents.
Depends on the airport and country.
Money money money ,money makes the world go around 😅😅😅😅
How many not found when fell out
True.
Perhaps, some were successful and it's how these two victims got the idea in the first place. We'll never know :/
There are usually people watching airplanes land and take off so I'm assuming the amount of unknown bodies is very small or zero. If bodies fall on a building or something it gets found and forensic can tell it fell from high up. Some airports release landing gear over bodies of waters or airports surrounded by swamp land but still there are cameras and air control looking at planes. It's assume that if something large fell off the plane it would be cause of concern.
"This is not the way to stow away on an airplane." Thanks for the advice, news reporter.
IKR
Apparently intelligence is not a requisite when hiring tv news people. Like buying a good looking car with no motor.
What are@bobdillaber1195 What are you talking about to be a NEWS Anchor in America 🇺🇸
You have to have a college degree
In Communications for starters
Then you're giving In House Training too!!!
This Newscaster was very knowledgeable and on point explaining the experience of being stowed away in an airplane ✈️ for multiple hours and how the
Weather changes thousands of miles into the air can be very deadly to the human body and
I learned something from him
That's noteworthy and don't blame him for your shortcomings!!
It's happening long time but this moment come to light ✨️ 🙏🏿
The most disturbing thing to me is that if two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays of an airliner undetected, then a single person could easily smuggle an explosive device into the landing gear bay. Airport security needs to be a lot better at detecting unauthorized people entering the airport and approaching aircraft.
They won't do something about it until something bad happen and maybe this incident still doesn't help to drive change. Sad
@@crowman-gc1khYep. That's the way it works in the US. Must have that enormous preventable tragedy for anything to be done about preventing another one.
Evidently some people don’t realize there is very little oxygen at 30,000 feet and temperatures are -25 F(-32C)even when it’s 88 F(31 C) on the ground In Kingston.
People! You will suffocate and freeze 🥶 solid.
They were both frozen long before they ran out of oxygen. They were not on a Cropduster.
It really is a ticket to death. When pressure's lost in the cabin, the oxygen masks come down. The captain must dive to 10,000 feet so the passengers can breathe without assistance. Shockingly, they were not found when the pilots did their inspection.
@@user-cm8vv7jo9y Yeah, they probably were hiding close by waiting for the pilot to finish his/her inspection.
The pilots do their pre-flight walk around well before the plane takes off 🛫. Once the pilot walks up the Jet way stairs. They have plenty of time to sneak in.
They will become freeze dried because of the low pressure and low temperature at altitude.
Thank you for the Celsius numbers. -32°C sounds horrifying.
This likely occurred in Kingston, Jamaica. The plane "started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
You seem quick to pass the blame on the Jamaican authorities. Let's wait for more details before passing blame.
Wherever they got on the pilots are supposed to check the plane before it leaves. So the Pilots might be held liable
Kingston -> NY -> Salt Lake City -> NY -> Miami -> NY. You think it was not seen by crew inspection in NY, Salt Lake, NY again, AND Miami?
Either you have too much confidence in US airport security or too little of that in Jamaica. Let's wait for the details.
I was told that is part of the procedure, to check plane before departure. Not being done?
@@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN I was told that laws and rules are not to be broken?
Every time I watch the news I see a headline I couldn’t even perceive of ever seeing…WTH is going on?!
Exactly...I feel like I am in the middle of a dystopian movie
Sadly these sorts of stowaways stories have happened before. John Legend dedicated one of his music videos several years ago to the memory of two teenage boys who attempted to get asylum by stowing away in a wheel well of a plane going to I think Belgium but died during the flight.
Life 😂😢 end times … but yeah this thing is spiraling down for real - Scary stuff I tell you
They about to drop another Pandemic on us too. - the Timing is astounding.
End times are here. Be prepared.
Aircraft mechanic here. For those contemplating this same stunt, you’ll be crushed dead before the cold and low oxygen gets you. The wheel well has room only for the landing gear when it’s retracted and very little else😣
Yikes!!!😬
And yet the plane did 3 more cycles after Jamaica.
And apparently 2 others.
So then, wouldn’t their bodies fall out the next time the landing gear compartment is opened?
This makes me think of “The Fifth Element” when the ground crew walks around the plane and uses flamethrowers to remove parasites…how can a pre-flight check not catch this?
Or Dave Chapelle’s character in Con Air 😂
@@randyjax09”So that’s what happened to Pinball!”
From TSA to ground crew, all of them are to be blamed for this breach of security. The ground crew(GC) and pilot do a 360° walk of the aircraft within 10mins after arrival. The departing pilot usually does his own 360° before boarding. However, the GC does the final 360° walk after loading the bags and pulling all equipment from the aircraft. And we all know a lot can happen in a minute, then what about 10? So the hideout very well happened AFTER the "departure" pilot did his 360° because GC basically walks around, not thoroughly. The Pilots are usually the ones that bend down and look in all those little places, they do a thorough check around the aircraft, not GC. So I conclude that it happened after the pilot's 360°. GC and all other Securities are to blame.
They could have crept in after the walk around…hopefully it wasn’t on the first leg..😮
This is happening a lot.. someone should be held accountable for letting people onto the tarmac.
It TSA man. Thanks for the laugh.
@@greglane3978 TSA only operates inside the airport at the security checks. Preventing people from climbing fences onto the tarmac is airport security's job.
@@greglane3978I don’t think the security in Jamaica is the same as in the U.S.
This is so sad that people don’t know at altitude there’s not enough pressurized oxygen to breathe, and the temperature can go as low as -50°C. Riding in the well of landing gear is a death sentence.
The wheel well compartment is not even pressurized at all. Two dead people could have googled that.
Darwin!
At least the stowaways did not fall into a populated area when the landing gear lowered.
People need to start doing their jobs . Period
Why? Over criminals?
How about you don’t stow away in the landing gear! Sheesh!
Can you PROVE they didn't? I didn't think so Karen
bro immediately starts rumbling and assuming things 💀
@@rogerdehaven5603the 2 unalived people in the landing gear proves they didn’t do their job lol. I’ve worked in the airport for over 10 years a man climbed up the baggage belt crawlled through the vents walked across the tarmac bare foot passing muiltple personnel and planes and followed me up an air stairs at the Jfks hardstand.. I couldn’t believe it when I watched them cameras I was shocked to see how easy it was for him to do.😂😂😂 jfk is unsecured always has been.
Wasn’t someone else found in another plane last week?
yep this is the third one
And wasn’t it also Salt Lake City?
This happens ALOT
Me.
Right! I was confused. Something isn't right with all of these weird freak deaths. This, New Orleans, Tesla bombing, plane going down in the warehouse. I don't trust it!😢
Everyone is watching their computer screens. No one's watching the airplanes😂
Good thing they're not suicide bombers
jay1373- WHY?? In order to blow up a plane.
@jay1373 that's just dumb
I've been making a conscious effort to use my phone less. On my way home today, in a place I've lived for 8 months, rural, I thought i passed my turn. I didn't, but i realized I have no clue of my surroundings because I'm immersed in a video or something. Don't know street names, signs, what houses look like as markers. Just a mindless drone going thru life. No more. I'm beginning to reclaim my life. I'm even thinking about going back to the old g.P.S that is not phone based.
@catsincredulous9998 Good for you! I'll bet your headaches will stop.
Scary thought... airlines need to do more to prevent this.
If they can sneak themselves in just imagine what else they can sneak in the plane. Terrible
EXACTLY
Someone out there is telling desperate people that this will work. They don't realize there is no air and -60 degrees temps
And, what if that person is charging them to get them in there - knowing that?!
How does this keep happening?
Could easily be fake news that they created as they are paving the ground for something else to come. No one can prove it's fake. This will just lead to more security to keep you safe.Which is only ever more restrictive.
This is soooo scary…we really are at risk flying these days. Not that we weren’t before but good grief is airport security lapsing now. I’m losing confidence.
This just happend last week too.. whats going on?
I mean there are so many questions to ask, the least of which is how in the world did they make it onto the runway without being seen? Horrific way to go.
The plane started its day at 3 AM in Jamaica.
It's one thing to get past security. It's on a whole different level to gain access to the landing gear compartment. Shows that our airport security is NOT GOOD.
Thank goodness their presence in the gear compartment didn’t affect the gear or the landing.
How do you know how to get in a plahes landing gear but don't know that you'll freeze to death or starve for oxygen
Because some people don’t get the same education, fact.
“Trust me bro. what could go wrong?”
"If you say so....K, let's go"
omg you're a genius, why haven't i thought of that before.
That free flight wasn't such a great deal.
The free ticket on the Titanic didn’t work so well for Jack either…. Im sensing a pattern.
I know flying is getting expensive but come on people😮
CAMERAS???! DO THEY EXSIST ?!?
How do these bizarre things become trends so quickly?
Internet and they kind of glorified that lady that did it over a dozen times. What I think about is how many people do it and survive.
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Very confusing reporting. A flight to JFK “from Salt Lake City with a stop in Jamaica”? That landed in Ft. Lauderdale? Those are all separate flights.
They never said that was the same flight, that's just all the places that plane flew that day.
It’s because they don’t want to be labeled as racist for suggesting they snuck on in Jamaica
@@suitandtie2251 Well, they didn’t word it like that. You deduced from what they said just like I did, but what they said actually was confusing.
The plane left Jamaica, probably after overnighting there, flew to NY, then Salt Lake and back to NY, before going to Ft. Lauderdale.
The "Jamaica" could be the one in New York.
This happened right before the last flight before they were found. It's not hard to figure out. A preflight inspection happens before every flight. If they weren't found prior to the other flights, they snuck in before the last flight departed.
Security people on their phones instead of watching the tarmac. What if they were planting bombs in the wheel well
Jamaica- New York- Salt Lake City- New York- Florida? And no one noticed 2 dead people? Unbelievable.
This is not good. Very dangerous, especially during these times. Someone with evil intentions could take a plane down. Why is there no security on the tarmac. I get practically stripped searched at TSA but they cannot protect the tarmac?
It’s not a tragedy, it’s evolution.
Instead of bodies
It could have been bombs
TSA is broken
TSA gets treated like 💩. They don’t get paid often enough to care 😂
So this makes 3 dead people in a little more than a week found in landing gear, what is going on with security, they make us go through all the garbage of flying safe with metal detectors, pat down searches, star id, passports ect. And these people somehow get in unnoticed under the plane and into the wheelwells, WTF is going on?????
If people can just get there past security who knows what else people can put on these planes past security. This is terrifying
This is crazy!
What's more surprising is how with so many cases starting to happen all of a sudden since the last 2 months security hasn't been enforced yet.
Why is there so many plane problems lately. Been about 10 in 2 weeks in Australia alone
So much for post 9/11 security. Imagine thinking that you could survive -
Why does the word not get out that doing that is suicide?
So is crossing the border, but look at how many people do it.
Usually they do a walk around checking the plane. But it's obvious they aren't checking the plane out 🤷😏
Certainly not checking well!
Huge security lapse & it looks like the flight crew has a serious problem with the walk around.
Probably made their way into the landing gear bay somewhere between the walk around and takeoff.
@@internetguitarist43 This likely occurred in Kingston, Jamaica. The plane "started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. They probably breached the fence and made their way to the aircraft in the middle of the night during a lull in airport operations. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
@@skyhawk_4526it's just as likely to have happened in the US considering this is like the 3rd incident this year and Jamaica wasn't a stop on the previous incidents
That's Jet Blue's new economy class
conveniently climate controlled at -50 for your comfort
More like Peasant Class!🤨
It was a pilot program for Economy-Minus: No personal items, no seat selection or seat at all. No WiFi. No climate control, and 7.6 inches of mercury. 😂
It's sad to die as a stowaway on an airline that offers $59 ticket specials.
Ironic. Because i just watched a video about 2 people who did this years ago. Both passed out, one fell out mid flight. Other was hospitalized upon landing
Where was the security? If this had been a terrorist attack all those passengers and the crew would've been gone.
I'll forward your question to the Kingston Jamaica Airport Police.
& we spend how much $$, & put up with how much rudeness & harassment from TSA claiming they're keeping us safe, when unknown people can just hold up inside a plane?
What about the preflight?
Now airlines will need to put on Warning labels on the doors in many languages.
I dont think they're allowed to sit in there.
No
We need PSAs explaining why you can't survive this. This keeps happening.
Install security cameras inside landing gear compartment
What?
There is no drink service in the landing gear?
Didn’t this happen the other day as well?
We can all blame the 1985 movie called Commando
Hypothermia,Hypoxia and The bends..smart arent they?
i was gonna say Carry-on in Netflix but yes very similar method where Arnold jumps out of the plane from the landing gear and not going in on the plane…in Afghanistan, 4 years ago before the Taliban take hold the entire airport. this was done as well, clinging to landing gears…
if these were ground crew, they know better…there are some who would take a nap in the cargo hold but not in the landing gear.
its not the lack of oxygen its the lack of pressure just to add
That’s what you get for not paying to select your seat.
This makes you feel uneased about airport 🛫 security.
Who are the dummies that don’t understand you cannot breath at high altitudes without oxygen.
I would be asking what brought them to a level of desperation that they thought this was a good idea. Because this is what people do when they are desperate.
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Breathe
As someone who’s from broward county this is crazy, makes me want to stay home from flying this year.
Could be ground crew in Jamaica…..?
Unknown, but Jamaica is most likely where they got on. The "plane started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
Possibly. Last week a flight from Chicago to Hawaii had stowaways, so by that logic ground crew in Chicago?
This happens every year. I rarely hear of anyone surviving that experience. It sounds like the tarmac security and inspections are open to planes being tampered with in a terrorist attempt.
Are we likely to hear of the people that survive it? I doubt they'd publicise (and thus inadvertently encourage) this being successful
@2oneil Wow! 😯 Without oxygen and the temperatures that's amazing. I can't believe that most people could.
@wolfsisterhowls I agree to an extent. Without oxygen and the temperature I can't believe that most people could survive.
@Ron_B. He was unconscious and fell out and break his leg when the plane landed and came to a stop and his friend fell out in midair couple miles away from the airport.
I guess these people don't know how cold it is at 30000ft
Or how little oxygen there is that high.
Economy seating is getting bad.🤔🤔
At least they didn't fall out when they deployed the gear for landing and squish someone's house or car. Could've been worse. Sorry to them for not knowing there's no air up there and it's cold.
I wonder if they were an illegal immigrants?
Shocked if this ISN'T the case. This most likely occurred in Kingston, Jamaica. The plane "started its day" there means it was most likely parked overnight there, and there would be times it was completely unattended. FAA and every airline should put out a bulletin requiring enhanced preflight inspections of the landing gear bays. If two people can smuggle themselves into the landing gear bays undetected, then one person could even more easily smuggle a bomb into the landing gear bay undetected.
Just as likely to be American citizens to be fair, last week the stowaways were from Chicago and LEAVING to Hawaii
Man I didn't know flying was that expensive but these people said forget that I'm going to take the express route
You could hide under a fuel, catering, lavatory, baggage bin off sight. The pilots do a walk around before every takeoff. I am surprised they are crushed when the landing gear retracts after takeoff.
"At 38,000 feet, the temperature is typically around minus 85 degrees Fahrenheit (-55 Celsius)."
Flying is still the safest mode of travel.
IF you are in the pressurized cabin !!!!!!!
Especially with all the DEI hires, bolts missing and parts falling off.
No thanks.
That had to be a cold 3 hour flight. Yikes
They probably lost consciousness within the first 20 minutes of the flight as it climbed to cruising altitude and never regained it.
Does Maintenance have to make a log book entry? What ATA code do they use?
32-911
@ 😁thanks.
Sounds like an inside job. Someone snuck these two rocket scientists onto the tarmac but not before taking their money.
Those extra cheap seats didn't workout well for them. Super Econoclass.
FYI it gets to temps of below 60 Celsius once a plane gets to cruising altitude. They most likely froze to death.
Wrong. They lost consciousness in 15 minutes or less. You can't breath above 15,000 feet
Uh yeah, we all know they got on in Jamaica.
If thats correct, also means a lot of people missed checks. Jamaica to New York to Salt Lake back to New York then to Ft Lauderdale.
@@737driver8 Yup. There were multiple failures. Airport security measures failed (almost certainly overnight in Kingston Jamaica), but also the ground handling crews and the captain or first officer who performed the exterior preflight inspections (on the first flight as well as the subsequent flights).
What makes you say so? This has never occurred before here
@Lee247Jamaica Yes it was in Jamaica
How do we know this? The last few cases this year didn't have any link to Jamaica?
You would be surprised, how little space there is in an aircraft wheel well. Most wheel wells I've seen, during a gear retraction, with the gear doors off, there's about maybe about 8" of space around the struts and tires.
There's no cure for "Stupid" 🤦♀️ It's very, very rare...until it isn't! 🙄😒
Imagine thinking to yourself that there is plenty of extra,
wasted space in the landing gear area for you to travel safely in and you know where that area is when the gear is retracted.
Two dummies who did not know about altitude and lack of oxygen
Dems
from Jamaica... nuff said
I was just there last Friday planespotting while waiting for my flight and now this happens.
Where is "there"?
@@lemardyc Ok you got me, I placed way too many words.
My deepest condolences to the family,
The speed of the plane and that height is crazy enough. The wind the breeze.
I am guessing they got on in Jamaica.
Since they won't say, I figured it was a couple of white guys from Salt Lake.
@ i was thinking since they hadn’t said anything that it was likely two black guys who made it from Jamaica through La Guardia to Fort Lauderdale. 😆
Yup. Almost certain. It would have been the easiest place since the security is likely less than in the US and the plane "started its day" there and was probably parked and unattended overnight.
Yes, Jamaican security is likely not as robust as the U.S.
Just like the other flights with stowaways so far this month that were all internal
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70 ° below zero for 3 hours and probably wearing t-shirts and shorts 🤣🤣🤣
i was on a mountain one time, it was 13,000 feet, I had a hard time getting enough air, and it was cold, at the bottom it was 85 degrees F, idk how anyone could survive at 30k feet