I did the basement renovation recently. I had both this and the Dewalt 12v Drill Driver. 90% of the drilling was done with the Dewalt and only 10% with this hammer drill. And I tell you, this got toasty very quickly, uncomfortable in the hand drilling overhead. With that Dewalt drill, I thought i could go all day. I had to charge this m12 twice daily for 8 hours of work, while once with the Dewalt. Both were 2ah batteries. While the m12 Impact Driver, love that little guy.
It’s a beast in a tiny package! I did get mine to I were I after I think 20ish consecutive 3/4” holes when I was comparing the watt hour rating of 18V and 12V but that was an a scenario I done think most fall into with these tools. Link below if you’re interested th-cam.com/video/_hGaArRDI2Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CAp10fsJZpoTWCv9
@@EngineersPerspective701 I guess since it ended up getting a 10-15 minute break between say 5-10 holes it never overheated. Did notice it goes through batteries fast but that’s ok. I’ll probably barely ever use my 18v stuff now since this is plenty for me
@@EngineersPerspective701 have you tried out the 12v impact this comes in a combo with? I haven’t tried it for making holes yet but should be lots smoother going through a nail or something
@@georged1085 I LOVE the M12 impact! It’s so dang light and compact, it’s not even close to any 18V alternative. Its speed and power does not leave you wanting assuming you’re not driving massive lags or structural screws all the time. I also find that I really prefer its ergonomics over the M18 fuel impact. Holding it in awkward positions it’s just easier and more comfortable to use. Biggest downside is its length. The M18 fuel and Dewalt DCF850 are both notably shorter but it’s almost never an issue. Don’t like using it for spade bits because impacts throw wood chips everywhere. So I still use the M12 drill for up to 2” hole saws, 1-1/2 spade bits.
I have these for the house man, or doing residential work on the side, these m12 tools are strong a.f. im an industrial electrician and use the m18 line in the field, but from experience doing residential jobs these will handle most anything you put them through in a house.
Doing heavy duty home renovations I definitely prefer M18 but even then the M12 come out for overhead work or tight spaces. For smaller jobs I use almost all M12, really love the whole lineup.
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I have been using this hoss for the last few months. It's a spectacular tool. You're right that it gets toasty at high duty cycle / high load jobs. Also I had no idea Milwaukee makes an M12 rotary hammer. 😍
It’s a great little guy for sure! Yeah their rotary hammer is pretty nice and compact. Good for tight spaces and portable. A lot slower than my 18V 1-1/8” rotary hammer but still miles ahead of a hammer drill
Great tool! Bought mine today. Perfect for precise screwing and for metal anchors in drywalls! A bit too thick though in the handle. I got very normal size hands and it feels very "thick" in your hand. Very light though.
The 1/2” is super nice. It’s probably pushing the design using bits larger than 3/8” shank but it will do the task so often and that’s a handy option to have.
I haven’t measured it but by feel and eye there is average to slightly higher than average runout on my 3404. Tend not to notice it while working and it’s about equal to my DCD999. I wouldn’t let it stop you from buying it but I could see it being an issue for people that are accustomed to better. The M18 new compact drill driver 3601 and fuel hammer drill 2904 are slightly better. The dewalt DCD800 I have is noticeably better than all the above.
Looks like the fpd0 is advertised as slightly less peak torque at 390in-lbs with a boost in speed at 1700rpms in speed 2. My guess is the higher speed is nice but you end up using speed 1 more often because it likely has notably less torque in speed 2. They’re not readily accessible in the US so I wouldn’t get my hands on it unless someone sent it to me
@@EngineersPerspective701Thank you very much. I need a set of lightweight tools for working in the shop. Occasionally, I need to drill a few holes in the garage to hang bicycles and something else, so I don't want to invest in duplicates.
I would not use this drill to install screws, you have impact driver for that. Hammering is the best feature of this drill, next to clutch settings and 1/2" bit capacity.
Impact is for sure better at driving screws but there are times when noise is a factor or I want the clutch. I do like the m12 surge for the noise side of things though
Is it an SDS or a drill with a hammer mode, aka hammer drill like in this review? Hammer drills are not ideal for concrete but I’ve had lots of luck with them drilling lots of 3/16 holes for tapcons
Not at all. Just a note for how long it can take if you’re drilling a lot of deep and/or large holes. For the odd 6mm x 30mm it’ll do that job easy and quick enough. If it’s something you do on the regular I would recommend an SDS rotary hammer though
@@EngineersPerspective701 I'm not working construction luckily but it's for household stuff, actually needed something like this more than i would've thought.
@@DGctw gotcha, I was in the same boat. I used my 20V Dewalt hammer drill for 16 3/16” holes in my basement wall for shelf cleats. Each took 3-4min and it was BRUTAL. Bought an SDS hammer the next time one was on sale and have had zero regrets! I do recommend getting one that has a hammer function as your first if you go that route. Much more useful. Breaking concrete, scrapping tile, chipping ice off the driveway But if it’s 2 holes per year and no need for the other hammering uses then probs not worth it.
@@EngineersPerspective701 alright then! Ordered it along with the 4.0 battery which was on sale. But was also in need of a decent drill as I've got a couple of flimsy ones laying around so it's already a upgrade.
Biggest I’ve used is the 2” on wood and is definitely okay for occasional use. Even a one off of something real nasty would probably be okay If you’re doing multiple in a row or through more challenging material on a regular basis then I’d look at an alternative option. Potentially the new M18 compact drill maybe
To answer your question, yes the hammer drill and impact is a great place to start and highly recommended. However, you already have M18 tool or other 18V battery powered tools? I ask because I usually recommend going the 18V route as a home owner because you may end up wanting a leaf blower, hedge trimmer, chainsaw, etc that are best on the 18V tools.
I get both. I have multiple charges that charge m18 and m12. I grab m12 for high over head work or tight spaces like a crawl space or in/under a vehicle. Or long continuous work for the light weight. I have m18 when I really need power. I have the m18 hammer drill and m12 hammer drill. M18 has more power but sucks hanging ceiling drywall for hours on end. Your shoulder is shot. The m12 keeps your shoulder in the game longer. Any saws, multi tool or heavier stuff. Always go M18. I only buy Milwaukee Fuel also. It cost more but worth it to me.
I’ve used it for the tiny little screws for the smallest hinges with pre drilled pilot holes. No stripping them out. I’d say it’ll do the low end like you need. More issues at the higher end. Basically can’t use the clutch after 2.5-3” screws which is an issue for me. Definitely should have discussed that in the review, oh well!
@EngineersPerspective701 I guess I was using it to it's max most days. It just didn't have enough torque and was geared too fast. The e clutch was hopeless. It was the only tool in my m12 work arsenal that couldnt keep up. I was contemplating changing to M18 platform. The gen 3 is awesome. With a 5.0 H.O. it solved all my woes and I can stay all m12. It will happily send a 1" spade through timber in speed 2.
now you're leaning on a holesaw? ffs, can someone teach this kid how to use a tool? yr as bad as the "college educated" apprentices at my work who dont even get taught how to sharpen a drill bit
@@guacamoleweiner69 if you’re removing and tightening them an impact wrench is what you need either 3/8 or the 1/2 inch one depending how tight they are
It's amazing that such a small tool can scew, drill and even drill into stone/concrete.
All in one small package.
Seriously awesome tool! Won’t do every job but will do most! Definitely one of my favorites
It doesnt drill concrete… at least mine doesnt. Nice drill otherwise, but the ‘Hammer’ setting is the same as ‘Drill’
@@frankcherry3810 maybe wrong bits? 4/6 mm is pretty easy to do on the hammer setting but you need to press hard. Even 16 mm in brick was fine.
I did the basement renovation recently. I had both this and the Dewalt 12v Drill Driver. 90% of the drilling was done with the Dewalt and only 10% with this hammer drill. And I tell you, this got toasty very quickly, uncomfortable in the hand drilling overhead. With that Dewalt drill, I thought i could go all day. I had to charge this m12 twice daily for 8 hours of work, while once with the Dewalt. Both were 2ah batteries. While the m12 Impact Driver, love that little guy.
Just drilled 50 holes through 2x4 with it today using 3/4 auger bit. Already love it, so light and it never broke a sweat even through nails
It’s a beast in a tiny package! I did get mine to I were I after I think 20ish consecutive 3/4” holes when I was comparing the watt hour rating of 18V and 12V but that was an a scenario I done think most fall into with these tools. Link below if you’re interested
th-cam.com/video/_hGaArRDI2Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CAp10fsJZpoTWCv9
@@EngineersPerspective701 I guess since it ended up getting a 10-15 minute break between say 5-10 holes it never overheated. Did notice it goes through batteries fast but that’s ok. I’ll probably barely ever use my 18v stuff now since this is plenty for me
@@EngineersPerspective701 have you tried out the 12v impact this comes in a combo with? I haven’t tried it for making holes yet but should be lots smoother going through a nail or something
@@georged1085 I LOVE the M12 impact! It’s so dang light and compact, it’s not even close to any 18V alternative. Its speed and power does not leave you wanting assuming you’re not driving massive lags or structural screws all the time.
I also find that I really prefer its ergonomics over the M18 fuel impact. Holding it in awkward positions it’s just easier and more comfortable to use.
Biggest downside is its length. The M18 fuel and Dewalt DCF850 are both notably shorter but it’s almost never an issue.
Don’t like using it for spade bits because impacts throw wood chips everywhere. So I still use the M12 drill for up to 2” hole saws, 1-1/2 spade bits.
I have these for the house man, or doing residential work on the side, these m12 tools are strong a.f. im an industrial electrician and use the m18 line in the field, but from experience doing residential jobs these will handle most anything you put them through in a house.
Doing heavy duty home renovations I definitely prefer M18 but even then the M12 come out for overhead work or tight spaces. For smaller jobs I use almost all M12, really love the whole lineup.
Testing should including popular holesaw cutting locks for doors with wood material equivalent to the real thick wooden or metal door.
That's where toys and pro duty tools reveal its quality.
Very good recommendation!
i use mine to put holesaws through hardened steel a few times a week. chump-change
I have been using this hoss for the last few months. It's a spectacular tool. You're right that it gets toasty at high duty cycle / high load jobs.
Also I had no idea Milwaukee makes an M12 rotary hammer. 😍
It’s a great little guy for sure!
Yeah their rotary hammer is pretty nice and compact. Good for tight spaces and portable. A lot slower than my 18V 1-1/8” rotary hammer but still miles ahead of a hammer drill
Great tool! Bought mine today. Perfect for precise screwing and for metal anchors in drywalls! A bit too thick though in the handle. I got very normal size hands and it feels very "thick" in your hand. Very light though.
Super common complaint on the handle size. Personally works great for my hands which are a solid XL
look how clean that bugger is. its a year old? you should use it sometime.
No way! It wouldn’t look as good in the display case
not sure how he kept the rust off it. my chuck was rusty within 3 months, even with use of lanolin spray to protect it
I like both Dewalt and Milwaukee but it is Milwaukee for me because it has the 1/2 inch chuck.
The 1/2” is super nice. It’s probably pushing the design using bits larger than 3/8” shank but it will do the task so often and that’s a handy option to have.
If you can get a 1/4" bit the impact has a lot higher RPM
Which has a place for sure
It look so, so, so much powerful than my stanley 20v hammer drill
It’s definitely not as powerful as my bigger 18/20V drills but it beats out the old brushless Dewalt I used to have
@@EngineersPerspective701 20v brushless dewalt? :O
I meant Brushed! My old Brushed dewalt drill @@alejandrocontra3918
@@EngineersPerspective701 oh! Anyway, a dewalt brushed is most powerful than a stanley, i need this milwaukee!
i will try out the 2.5 high output battery
Highly recommended!
I have the 2404 model and the chuck on it has terrible runout! Have you noticed any runout with the 3rd gen model? Great video
I haven’t measured it but by feel and eye there is average to slightly higher than average runout on my 3404.
Tend not to notice it while working and it’s about equal to my DCD999. I wouldn’t let it stop you from buying it but I could see it being an issue for people that are accustomed to better.
The M18 new compact drill driver 3601 and fuel hammer drill 2904 are slightly better. The dewalt DCD800 I have is noticeably better than all the above.
Have you ever compared this with the M12 fpd0.? I use the fpd0, but I doubt its power is less than 3404... 🤔
Looks like the fpd0 is advertised as slightly less peak torque at 390in-lbs with a boost in speed at 1700rpms in speed 2. My guess is the higher speed is nice but you end up using speed 1 more often because it likely has notably less torque in speed 2.
They’re not readily accessible in the US so I wouldn’t get my hands on it unless someone sent it to me
Ótimo aviso, a 2408 tem um bom rendimento de torque com bateria comun.
I’d say the 3404 has good torque even with the small 2.0 batteries but needs the bigger 5.0 or larger to get the tough jobs done
so hammer mode is for tougher material ?
Not exactly. It’s for concrete and masonry using the right bit.
Will it be able to drill garage concrete wall?
Sure will! Can take quite awhile per hole depending on size and the concrete.
@@EngineersPerspective701Thank you very much. I need a set of lightweight tools for working in the shop. Occasionally, I need to drill a few holes in the garage to hang bicycles and something else, so I don't want to invest in duplicates.
I would not use this drill to install screws, you have impact driver for that. Hammering is the best feature of this drill, next to clutch settings and 1/2" bit capacity.
Impact is for sure better at driving screws but there are times when noise is a factor or I want the clutch. I do like the m12 surge for the noise side of things though
Noise is a factor in that equation. In my IT work, I can't use an impact driver in certain environments.
I got one of those ‘percussion’ Milwaukee drills recently. It doesnt drill even the lightest concrete
Is it an SDS or a drill with a hammer mode, aka hammer drill like in this review? Hammer drills are not ideal for concrete but I’ve had lots of luck with them drilling lots of 3/16 holes for tapcons
Rattling Noise inside Chuck when loose but when it tight Noise disappears. Is that normal?????
I guess it rattles a little but nothing concerning. Unless it sounds excessive then I wouldn’t worry about it
@EngineersPerspective701 cool
Omg don't bore holes in your basement for the sake of the video 😂 but i appreciate it!
Lol, already had a crack to repair before putting flooring back in. No biggie!
So basically the hammer function is completely useless for holes in concrete walls... For say like 6 mm wall plugs?
Not at all. Just a note for how long it can take if you’re drilling a lot of deep and/or large holes.
For the odd 6mm x 30mm it’ll do that job easy and quick enough. If it’s something you do on the regular I would recommend an SDS rotary hammer though
@@EngineersPerspective701 I'm not working construction luckily but it's for household stuff, actually needed something like this more than i would've thought.
@@DGctw gotcha, I was in the same boat. I used my 20V Dewalt hammer drill for 16 3/16” holes in my basement wall for shelf cleats. Each took 3-4min and it was BRUTAL. Bought an SDS hammer the next time one was on sale and have had zero regrets!
I do recommend getting one that has a hammer function as your first if you go that route. Much more useful. Breaking concrete, scrapping tile, chipping ice off the driveway
But if it’s 2 holes per year and no need for the other hammering uses then probs not worth it.
@@EngineersPerspective701 alright then! Ordered it along with the 4.0 battery which was on sale. But was also in need of a decent drill as I've got a couple of flimsy ones laying around so it's already a upgrade.
@@DGctw nice! It’ll be a damn nice tool for sure!
How would this drill perform using sharp holesaws? Just for occasional use
Biggest I’ve used is the 2” on wood and is definitely okay for occasional use. Even a one off of something real nasty would probably be okay
If you’re doing multiple in a row or through more challenging material on a regular basis then I’d look at an alternative option. Potentially the new M18 compact drill maybe
@@EngineersPerspective701 thank you!
Whats the smallest bit it can hold
Smallest I’ve used in it is a 3/32”
Wow makes me want to get a bigger battery for more power, do you recommend I get the 4 xc or 5 ho
5 HO for sure if you want the squeeze every bit of power out of it.
@@EngineersPerspective701 thanks! i see theyre 70$ on amazon which is half the price of home depot, might risk it
@@Danielxperez14 I do think there is a promo for $120 5.0 and get a 2.5HO for free. Those are my favorites for sure!
@@EngineersPerspective701 oh wow thank you
I'm buying into M12 Fuel tools and trying to decide which tool set is best. For home use. Is it best to pick up hammer drill and impact driver?
To answer your question, yes the hammer drill and impact is a great place to start and highly recommended.
However, you already have M18 tool or other 18V battery powered tools? I ask because I usually recommend going the 18V route as a home owner because you may end up wanting a leaf blower, hedge trimmer, chainsaw, etc that are best on the 18V tools.
I get both. I have multiple charges that charge m18 and m12. I grab m12 for high over head work or tight spaces like a crawl space or in/under a vehicle. Or long continuous work for the light weight. I have m18 when I really need power. I have the m18 hammer drill and m12 hammer drill. M18 has more power but sucks hanging ceiling drywall for hours on end. Your shoulder is shot. The m12 keeps your shoulder in the game longer. Any saws, multi tool or heavier stuff. Always go M18. I only buy Milwaukee Fuel also. It cost more but worth it to me.
Yeah the fact that it’s slow with the concrete I’ll have to pass . Only reason .
I check your videos you are in to power tools,multitools, and japanese knives same like me..
You have good tastes then!
Did you really just drill pointless holes in your basement floor for a tool test video?
Anything for my dedicated viewers like you! Seriously though I had cracks to fill anyway 2’ to the left of that spot and now it’s covered with carpet
nice
Thanks
I just bought this set and I'm concerned the clutches low settings may not be low enough for small screws applications.
I’ve used it for the tiny little screws for the smallest hinges with pre drilled pilot holes. No stripping them out. I’d say it’ll do the low end like you need.
More issues at the higher end. Basically can’t use the clutch after 2.5-3” screws which is an issue for me. Definitely should have discussed that in the review, oh well!
@@EngineersPerspective701 thanks a lot I'm even more anxiously awaiting for it to deliver now.
This is a huge upgrade over the gen 2. In every way. Man thst thing sucked.
Wouldn’t say the gen2 sucked but definitely a major upgrade across the board
@EngineersPerspective701 I guess I was using it to it's max most days. It just didn't have enough torque and was geared too fast. The e clutch was hopeless. It was the only tool in my m12 work arsenal that couldnt keep up. I was contemplating changing to M18 platform.
The gen 3 is awesome. With a 5.0 H.O. it solved all my woes and I can stay all m12. It will happily send a 1" spade through timber in speed 2.
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The battery tabs that hold it could definitely be better but their battery cells are just as good as any other major brand
if you own an impact _driver_ and you're using a _Drill_ to _Drive_ screws, yr a newb.
now you're leaning on a holesaw?
ffs, can someone teach this kid how to use a tool? yr as bad as the "college educated" apprentices at my work who dont even get taught how to sharpen a drill bit
So embarrassing to be such a newb. Maybe one day your wisdom will rub off on the masses
@@EngineersPerspective701 i seriously doubt it will. i mean really, have you even seen _your_ generation?
Would you recommend the drill for drilling bolts?
What kind of bolts are you drilling?
You drilling a 6” hole with 3/8” auger bit or you actually drilling in a lag bolt?
@@georged1085 grade 8 bolts 5/16 to 3/4. I work on Caterpillar scrapers
@@guacamoleweiner69 if you’re removing and tightening them an impact wrench is what you need either 3/8 or the 1/2 inch one depending how tight they are
@georged1085 imma go with the m18 1/2 hammer drill. any bolt bigger than 3/4, I just hog it out with a straight die grinder