I finally get Sizek LMAO. All this time, I felt... this guy can't be a serious communist. It turns out that his whole thing is that communism only works as something to 'not have'. That it's better to never have the dream of communism than to never have the dream of other ideologies.
@@brycevannote5553 It's pretty philosophical and he's basically talking in concepts so you should have a deeper knowledge of the determinate negation for example
I agree: I keep listening, even very carefully and I cannot understand his belief system. Poor soul. He has a number of tics but keeps on talking anyway. He is an inspiration to others who have a public speaking phobia.
some of the most interesting dynamics are when you and the other person speak different languages but both have basic knowledge of the other persons main language. And you both choose to try to speak the other persons language. You both speak a language you don't know well but are on equal footing. you both learn.
"I would send you to a reeducation camp" - only Żiżek would use this pickup line with a German woman. You can tell he's excited by the fact that he only touched his nose 11 times. This is a severely diminished average.
Lol. I noticed that too. Slavoj has his tics much more under control when he's talking to an attractive woman. He's also retrieving an above-average rate of sexually-themed philosophical anecdotes (even by his standards), while simultaneously emphasising that he's just playing, and 'I'm nice, you're nice - it's nice to be nice'. :)
This is a brilliant explanation. Let me provide further clarification: Slavoj Zizek is highlighting the importance of the concept of negation. Negation is the process of transition from one quality to its opposite quality, and serves as a core concept in dialectical materialism. Dialectical materialism is the philosophical framework that analyzes how material things change over time due to internal contradictions and conflicts within a system (a contradiction being the process in which two forces oppose each other). In illustrating the importance of negation, Zizek contrasts the nature of the statements "I would prefer not to" and "I don't want to do it.". "i would prefer not to" is a reference to Herman Melville's story titled "Bartleby, the Scrivener" which is a story about a character named Bartleby, a Scrivener/copyist, who works for a law firm and passively refuses to perform tasks outside that of his role as a Scrivener. When asked to perform such tasks, he simply replies with "I would prefer not to" which indicates his refusal to do it, but is punctuated with passivity and reluctance rather than showing an outright opposition to it. Linguistically, the statement "I don't want to do it" contains the subject "I", the predicate "don't want to do it", and the non-predicate/object "it". The statement "I would prefer not to" doesn't have a non-predicate, its subject is "I" and its predicate is "would prefer not to". In this manner "I don't want to do it" rejects the predicate, whereas "I would prefer not to" asserts the non-predicate. Although both statements highlight a refusal to do something, the difference in negation portrays the difference in degrees of passivity and reluctance. To further reinforce the importance of negation, Zizek tells the joke of a customer who enters the restaurant and orders a coffee without cream to which the waiter replies "We don't have cream, but I can get you a coffee without milk." When analysing this joke, it may seem ridiculous for the waiter to reply in this manner as a coffee without cream is materially the same as coffee without milk - they're both black coffee. However, the two orders, coffee without cream and coffee without milk, are ideally different due to their differing negation (ideally different meaning that they differ in meaning or identity due to their negation). In other words, the negation of what you're not getting, i.e. the cream or the milk, makes the two orders ideally different and presupposes tastes and preferences - ordering coffee without cream presupposes that the customer usually has their coffee with cream, but is now opting to not have it.
guguigugu well, being an american, the vast majority of our mainstream media interviewers just ask a lot of really condescending questions to rile people up. They're antagonistic and don't care what the interviewee has to say.
The essential point of the joke is that, in Hegelian logic, what's been canceled out is a significant determination of the thing, and the differences between the negation of milk and the negation of cream alters the thing, insofar as the thing is the result of different negations
The joke does seem to imply the opposite. Since black coffee is just that. But tell me that your store sells AIDS free coffee and I might start to question the cafe next door.
@@milolubin3311 lol seriously? You just assume he's dumb because he makes a claim you don't like? "You don't think like me, you must be too stupid" Way2gokiddo
There's a practical example in SQL for relational databases: If you attempt to count aggregated data acccording to a category, empty categories won't be part of the results. For instance, if you wanna query how many coffee orders have been made with either cream or milk, you'll get a list saying something like "15 with milk 10 with cream 20 neither". However if no coffee with milk has been ordered, the results of the query won't show "0 with milk", rather there won't be any information about coffee with milk at all as it is not a category found within the data. The results can't have a concept of an empty category because any absent category is indistinguishable from any other, so it won't talk about milk the same way that it won't talk about meatballs. Furthermore the "neither" category is modelled as NULL value or the absence of any value whatsoever, and as such it cannot be said that "neither" specifically refers to absence of cream or absence of milk
but isn't what he's saying actually that these categories aren't indistinguishable? on the level of the spirit at least, it matters what the base entity comes without
@@redorchidee137 Oh well i was just reminded of that SQL example, but yeah i think his point is more about the negation of categories, rather than proper absense of them which is what i talked about. In strict terms *every* possible category is absent from coffee; as i explained above, we could be talking about an absence of meatballs on the coffee, or absence of lightbulbs, or crude oil refineries, or any other nonsensical thing. If we wish to negate milk as a category in the above example, we have to use the coalesce function to explicitly set that the NULL category group should represent absence of milk. Of course we could also make it represent an absence of cream
This is a great reframing of the concept. We’re transitioning into SQL now our database has grown, and this is a recurring problem. It’s so annoying to run reports and get the wrong number of accounts mysteriously
German TV channel, with Swiss interviewer questioning in German (not French or English) whilst the Slovenian interviewee, responds in English. I love living in Europe. Yet, is a philosopher ever merely an interviewer or interviewee of their own thoughts, ideas, and concepts...
I had this same european experience when I (a German) was on vacation in the part of Italy that once belonged to Austria and I was with my grandparents, my granddad is from Sudetenland, which is (or was) the German-speaking part of Czechoslovakia, which also had been a part of Austria, and he immediately recognized that our waitress had a Czech accent. European history, especially of smaller countries, is a complete mess but the experience is kinda wholesome, nowadays. And then there's the US, you're driving for 8 hours straight, same landscape, same language, same everything and you're still in fucking Arizona ^^
I think about it this way: In Hegelian Dialectics, we have a thesis (the coffee has milk in it) and the antithesis (the coffee does not have milk in it). The solution will be in the form of a synthesis, some resolution between both the thesis and the antithesis. The negation of coffee with milk and the negation of coffee with cream are two distinct anti-theses, which when synthesized with their respective theses produce, logically speaking, an entirely different 'thing' in the end. So while at first thought theyre both cups of black coffee, theyre only in that state because of two completely different choices (the choice to not include milk and the choice to not include coffee.)
i fckn hate schrödingers cat. the cat never was and never will be both dead and alive since a) the observer is horrible misinterpreted and b) the cat is it's own observer
Materially it is still coffee, but Hegel was no materialist. You don't drink the coffee because it is coffee, you drink the coffee because it is not tea.
@@davidwuhrer6704this makes sense. I would further put it as "you don't drink plain coffee becuase it is plain coffee, but because it has no milk/no cream in it. "
It is, but he repurposes it for his own argument. I think it fails because he draws on literature to explain a reality in a way that claims to supercede the reality as it is experienced. His point may be valid, but it's not clear what the validity of his point leaves us with.
_ S. I think rather naively although I could be mistaken that essentially what the line means for Slavoj is that sometimes doing nothing is more effective than doing something. I could be wrong though.
@@guguigugu If she finds you good looking she won't say she doesn't drink coffee. At least she would add "I won't mind tea though" or something. Otherwise it is a polite rejection and if you keep pushing you might come off as a creep. Women can act bolder nowadays without the risk of harrassment accusations.
Onur Böle And the same applies to a guy. He would also say "I won't mind a tea though." Your point being? Oh right.. there is no point. You're just trying to find an excuse to push your narrative. Buddy, I don't think you're intelligent enough yet to watch Zizek, let alone try to comment on what he says.
He got the point here. But I think that this video, altought of all philosphical value, is ideal for watch when you are stoned. You will feel so "WOKE".
This comment summarises everything one would need to know about the sort of demographic that Žižek appeals to. I’ve yet to come across a stoner with a passion for the likes of say, Evola. Really makes you think..
It's Bavarian, a language that's closely related to many finno-ugrish tongues such as Hungarian; it's nearly incomprehensible to non-native speakers because of the 70 words they have for beer, one of which is used to start each sentence and one to indicate the ending.
This idea becomes very important for dynamic non-stable systems & neuroscience. System that blockes free flow in order to perpetuate. Exterior, interior, sensations on the boundary and action from within through- /or from the boundary to exterior.
@@danlyndon1905 of course we see coffee with cream as something different than coffee without it. We only think of the cream because a lot of people drink coffee with cream in it. How is this not a truism? Everybody understands that's how things work.
@@danlyndon1905 coffee without cream isn't different to coffe without milk to me, because a lot of people drink coffee with milk. Nobody thinks of cyanide when talking about coffee, because almost nobody wants cyanide with coffee. I dont know how much you're saying tbh.
@@danlyndon1905 I know that's why you used cyanide as an example. Who doesn't understand that our ideaology affects how we see the world? It still seems like a truism. What is he saying that is interesting and/or insightful?
There are a lot of unmentioned background concepts that we take for granted. For example, someone had to invent the concept of "rights", is it the best concept on which to base the protection of our freedoms? Could there be other base concepts that are better? Or consider that the Justice system deals mainly in making sure bad deeds are punished, but does not spend nearly as much time making sure good deeds are rewarded, and that's an entire half of justice. Capitalism, liberalism, and so on are all water we swim in and don't see, and we are told we have can have this ideology as opposed to that ideology, when it is also possible to construct your own worldview and your own solutions.
@@yungAndreiRublev i dont know if youre being sarcastic or not😅 but anyways I agree with you that Jordan Peterson is way more serious than Slavoj Zizek
@@yungAndreiRublev limited is my time to convey my true thoughts and feelings via mobile text. Checkmy location. Geeveston, Tasmania Australia. The world is burning for some... We have nothing but time left and I choose the comfortable seclusion that TH-cam offers.
How TF does all this relate to the damn t-shirt. It seems like Zizek always starts saying something and ends with something else, like Simpsons episodes.
What he is saying is that the MEANS to an end, matter just as much as the end point. Arriving at a state, whether is politics, culture, society, and so on is not mutually exclusive to how u got there. The mechanisms that allow for certain state matter because they control things goin forward
Yes. I bet he sees himself as a kind of scrivener now. Maybe he has to keep churning out new books just to pay the bills now and wishes he could refuse to do it, like Melville's Bartleby.
'Ideology gives you coffee without milk which is in reality coffee without cream.' What does it mean? What does ideology give us? The thing which is practically the same thing as my wish but with a different imposed deficiency? Is that how ideology cheats us?
My interpretation is that it hides what is or isn't included with a certain ideology, and maybe even tries to represent it as something else instead (coffee without milk instead of coffee without cream). As an example, liberalism might tell you that it's most important feature is living without oppression. In negating rule by authoritarian dictate, it produces freedom. Life without oppression. Of course looked at a different way, you could say it actually allows oppression to flourish by ceding the power of the state to the market. In this sense, democratic self-determination is negated in the name of the efficiency of the market. Materially, both these worlds can look the same, but the ideological trick is in how they're framed. Rule of law guaranteeing freedom from the persecution of something like a hereditary monarchy might seem like a worthwhile negation to make liberalism appealing, but seeing it as the negation of the revolutionary impulse while preserving class hierarchy, it suddenly doesn't sound quite as good. So what the thing ISN'T is an important part of how we view systems, objects, or ideas. Only looking at the material is's gives a limited perspective and probably means you just accept the conventional framing without much critical thought. Again though, this is just my attempt at an interpretation.
Materially it is coffee, whether it is without cream or without milk. As long as it has neither in it, it is the same thing, if possibly for different reasons. As soon as you can't have your coffee black, the distinction starts to matter.
I've been telling this to people for ... heck over a decade. Didn't know Zizek was on the same page. Except it is much more pertinent when people say stuff like "I don't think that so and so" instead of " I think that so and so isn't" because starting sentences with "I don't think" is usually a very true self descriptor :)
I think he would have made his point better if he said: a coffee without milk, isn’t the same as a coffee without Milk, without cream, without soya milk, without almond milk... etc
When aliens come with advanced technology and omnipotent abilities and they dominate the Earth; they ask sarcastically what humanity has discovered in terms of intellectual matters as they laugh at our abilities : *Slavoj Zizek cries in Hegelian negation about the comparison between coffee without milk and ideology*
I get what he's saying, that the negation of a thing alters our perception of the thing which is not another thing. What I don't understand is how this example of ideology relates to the big political picture. How can we use our understanding of negation to help us understand politics and the economy and all those important things that concern leftists?
The easy answer is to plug in that observation into the psychology of desire. The harder, truer answer, is to plug it into the neurology of temporal perception.
I feel like think makes more sense if you know he’s talking about linguistics and not whatever example he’s actually using but idk because I already knew that.
Imagine coming from the 4th industrial power in the world, and not speaking English with your guest, who's from a much less economically developed country... oh Germans...
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If you want to get Zizek's t-shirt you can do so here: i-would-prefer-not-to.com
I finally get Sizek LMAO. All this time, I felt... this guy can't be a serious communist. It turns out that his whole thing is that communism only works as something to 'not have'. That it's better to never have the dream of communism than to never have the dream of other ideologies.
@@nomoresunforever3695 Interesting. Can you expand on that?
The irony hahahaha
You a55hole5 stole the design from Melville House.
@@nomoresunforever3695 No wonder. Marx talked more about his critics of capitalism than what is communism, if any.
"Can I get uhh.. BONELESS PIZZA"
"This is what Hegel is about"
True...
“Has the president needed oxygen?” “He is not on oxygen today” 🤣
This is the first statement that has led to me understanding this concept
Or the first statement that has led not to my misunderstanding of this concept
I was thinking of the same video. You are a true meme legend
I’ve spent the last few days binge watching Zizek videos, and not once have I had the faintest clue what he’s talking about
😂
Seriously, like I’m even tracking what he’s saying and still don’t have a clue what he is positing. I don’t think it’s important, that’s for sure.
@@brycevannote5553 It's pretty philosophical and he's basically talking in concepts so you should have a deeper knowledge of the determinate negation for example
@@brycevannote5553 He is a mastermind. "i DoNt ThInK iTs iMpOrTaNt" -> just another liberal bootlicker take
I agree: I keep listening, even very carefully and I cannot understand his belief system. Poor soul. He has a number of tics but keeps on talking anyway. He is an inspiration to others who have a public speaking phobia.
If you’ve never had a conversation where you are speaking one language and the other person is speaking one different language, you haven’t lived yet
Genau
sim!
Das beste ist wenn du - can understand both perfectly.
@@SuperJonathanmatthew Lies. No one can understand the Swiss perfectly - nicht einmal die Schweizer.
some of the most interesting dynamics are when you and the other person speak different languages but both have basic knowledge of the other persons main language. And you both choose to try to speak the other persons language. You both speak a language you don't know well but are on equal footing. you both learn.
"I would send you to a reeducation camp" - only Żiżek would use this pickup line with a German woman. You can tell he's excited by the fact that he only touched his nose 11 times. This is a severely diminished average.
She is swiss. I agree with you he is deeply attracted to her
I like how he then whispers to himself "not gulag"
Lol. I noticed that too. Slavoj has his tics much more under control when he's talking to an attractive woman. He's also retrieving an above-average rate of sexually-themed philosophical anecdotes (even by his standards), while simultaneously emphasising that he's just playing, and 'I'm nice, you're nice - it's nice to be nice'. :)
@@Microtherion what a chad
she is so brave for sitting so closely
She givin him dem bedroom eyes
Shame she doesnt have a chance
@@pietrogulyaev i would also prefer to squint my eyes with that fountain 😂
As long as she's waterproof..
Brave Indeed, the most dangerous philosopher of the West
This is the most European thing I've ever watched
You've never watched a group singalong of Wonderwall in an Austrian hostel then.
You mean the most non-American thing you´ve ever watched.
worth noting, however, that “i would prefer not to” is a quote from herman melville, one of the usa’s most celebrated writers.
@@MacIntoshMann his shirt is from Melville house, you can see it on his shoulder
@@ObeySilence checked
Zlazloj Zlizlek - "My heart will go on and so on and so on." ❤ 😍
oh my god this needs to be a shirt
HAHAHAHAHA
I once heard somebody say "Slavoj Zizek doesn't teach philosophy, he teaches Slavok Zizek".
Slazok Vizej
Peterson : zizekism
Vlazoz Jisek
it's grand but easy to swallow when compared to other thinkers.
He teaches anecdotes
Slavov: "Can yoo imagine a more erotic invitation"
Interviewer covered with spit: ....
She is so fucking lucky 😌
Slavoj*
LMAO
Zizekian reeducation camps would just be people listening to his lectures 14 hours a day.
Doesn't sound like a bad thing to me.
How much for that camp?
Can I have an hours break where I listen to Richard Wolff or David Graeber for a bit in the middle?
And it will be him making a claim, contradicting the claim, and making a synthesis of the claim and its opposite.
Either that, or two years of binge-watching movies and shows he likes. This week is Neon Gensis-week.
3:26 my face expression during the whole video
And so on and so on
etc
*adjusts shirt*
And so forth.
We met a couple years ago I invited her to a cup of coffee yada yada, now I am a father.
@@yttrv8430 Not yada, yada... And so on and so on!
It's like that joke that running behind a bus saves you a $2 but by running behind a taxi you can save $100. So it's much better to run behind a taxi.
What a master, talking about something else, he manages to put in her head the idea of having a dinner with him
Slavoj Rižžek
@@t.m.2415😂😂😂😂
I bet this guy would blow joe rogan mind hah.
NazBol Kommandantd20 I would prefer to
why don't they get him on the podcast, for real
*Slavoj Zizek lectures Joe Rogan about the Hegelianism of Chimps on DMT*
I have a hard time undertanding his words sometimes
Everything blows Joe Rogan’s mind.
I'm like the interviewer. REALLY trying to see what he's getting at
Žižek has said before "if you think you have discovered the point I'm getting at you've failed to understand me" or something like that lmfao
good old swiss tv, i'm paying taxes (billag/serafe) for this you can thank me later
vo wellä sender isch das?
@@JustForComments666 SRF Kultur
You the man!
In australia our state-sponsored media just lies about literally everything.
Thanks
Why is he the thumbnail and the sub-thumbnail?
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Slavoj Zizek inception
He would prefer to
@Simple Truths Wow!
yo dawg
This is a brilliant explanation. Let me provide further clarification:
Slavoj Zizek is highlighting the importance of the concept of negation. Negation is the process of transition from one quality to its opposite quality, and serves as a core concept in dialectical materialism.
Dialectical materialism is the philosophical framework that analyzes how material things change over time due to internal contradictions and conflicts within a system (a contradiction being the process in which two forces oppose each other).
In illustrating the importance of negation, Zizek contrasts the nature of the statements "I would prefer not to" and "I don't want to do it.". "i would prefer not to" is a reference to Herman Melville's story titled "Bartleby, the Scrivener" which is a story about a character named Bartleby, a Scrivener/copyist, who works for a law firm and passively refuses to perform tasks outside that of his role as a Scrivener. When asked to perform such tasks, he simply replies with "I would prefer not to" which indicates his refusal to do it, but is punctuated with passivity and reluctance rather than showing an outright opposition to it.
Linguistically, the statement "I don't want to do it" contains the subject "I", the predicate "don't want to do it", and the non-predicate/object "it". The statement "I would prefer not to" doesn't have a non-predicate, its subject is "I" and its predicate is "would prefer not to". In this manner "I don't want to do it" rejects the predicate, whereas "I would prefer not to" asserts the non-predicate. Although both statements highlight a refusal to do something, the difference in negation portrays the difference in degrees of passivity and reluctance.
To further reinforce the importance of negation, Zizek tells the joke of a customer who enters the restaurant and orders a coffee without cream to which the waiter replies "We don't have cream, but I can get you a coffee without milk." When analysing this joke, it may seem ridiculous for the waiter to reply in this manner as a coffee without cream is materially the same as coffee without milk - they're both black coffee. However, the two orders, coffee without cream and coffee without milk, are ideally different due to their differing negation (ideally different meaning that they differ in meaning or identity due to their negation). In other words, the negation of what you're not getting, i.e. the cream or the milk, makes the two orders ideally different and presupposes tastes and preferences - ordering coffee without cream presupposes that the customer usually has their coffee with cream, but is now opting to not have it.
She seems so absolutely intrigued by the way he speaks. Žižek captivates
this should be the bare minimum for every interviewer but we are so used to bad journalism that we are surprised when someone is not-bad.
guguigugu well, being an american, the vast majority of our mainstream media interviewers just ask a lot of really condescending questions to rile people up. They're antagonistic and don't care what the interviewee has to say.
The essential point of the joke is that, in Hegelian logic, what's been canceled out is a significant determination of the thing, and the differences between the negation of milk and the negation of cream alters the thing, insofar as the thing is the result of different negations
And thus logically its affirmation as coffee is a positive result of double negation
Bah. Post-modernism
@@Sid-69 "I'm too dumb... muh postmodernism"
The joke does seem to imply the opposite. Since black coffee is just that. But tell me that your store sells AIDS free coffee and I might start to question the cafe next door.
@@milolubin3311 lol seriously? You just assume he's dumb because he makes a claim you don't like?
"You don't think like me, you must be too stupid"
Way2gokiddo
I like how his hand gestures are so vigorous they almost feel threatening
3:26 the face of pure WTF
I've noticed it too!
I laughed too much at this.
LOL
@rockster10101 Go be sexist somewhere else, grandpa.
@rockster10101 The fuck does that even mean? Your argument makes no sense, neither does your analogy.
Slavoj looks good here; like he got more rest than usual.
There's a practical example in SQL for relational databases: If you attempt to count aggregated data acccording to a category, empty categories won't be part of the results. For instance, if you wanna query how many coffee orders have been made with either cream or milk, you'll get a list saying something like "15 with milk 10 with cream 20 neither". However if no coffee with milk has been ordered, the results of the query won't show "0 with milk", rather there won't be any information about coffee with milk at all as it is not a category found within the data. The results can't have a concept of an empty category because any absent category is indistinguishable from any other, so it won't talk about milk the same way that it won't talk about meatballs. Furthermore the "neither" category is modelled as NULL value or the absence of any value whatsoever, and as such it cannot be said that "neither" specifically refers to absence of cream or absence of milk
based
Developers of SQL read Hagel
but isn't what he's saying actually that these categories aren't indistinguishable? on the level of the spirit at least, it matters what the base entity comes without
@@redorchidee137 Oh well i was just reminded of that SQL example, but yeah i think his point is more about the negation of categories, rather than proper absense of them which is what i talked about. In strict terms *every* possible category is absent from coffee; as i explained above, we could be talking about an absence of meatballs on the coffee, or absence of lightbulbs, or crude oil refineries, or any other nonsensical thing.
If we wish to negate milk as a category in the above example, we have to use the coalesce function to explicitly set that the NULL category group should represent absence of milk. Of course we could also make it represent an absence of cream
This is a great reframing of the concept. We’re transitioning into SQL now our database has grown, and this is a recurring problem. It’s so annoying to run reports and get the wrong number of accounts mysteriously
German TV channel, with Swiss interviewer questioning in German (not French or English) whilst the Slovenian interviewee, responds in English. I love living in Europe.
Yet, is a philosopher ever merely an interviewer or interviewee of their own thoughts, ideas, and concepts...
I had this same european experience when I (a German) was on vacation in the part of Italy that once belonged to Austria and I was with my grandparents, my granddad is from Sudetenland, which is (or was) the German-speaking part of Czechoslovakia, which also had been a part of Austria, and he immediately recognized that our waitress had a Czech accent. European history, especially of smaller countries, is a complete mess but the experience is kinda wholesome, nowadays.
And then there's the US, you're driving for 8 hours straight, same landscape, same language, same everything and you're still in fucking Arizona ^^
I think about it this way: In Hegelian Dialectics, we have a thesis (the coffee has milk in it) and the antithesis (the coffee does not have milk in it). The solution will be in the form of a synthesis, some resolution between both the thesis and the antithesis.
The negation of coffee with milk and the negation of coffee with cream are two distinct anti-theses, which when synthesized with their respective theses produce, logically speaking, an entirely different 'thing' in the end.
So while at first thought theyre both cups of black coffee, theyre only in that state because of two completely different choices (the choice to not include milk and the choice to not include coffee.)
Schrödinger's coffee??
Zizek is not a fan of the thesis-antithesis-synthesis interpretation of Hegel. It captures some elements of Hegel, but overall is meh
i fckn hate schrödingers cat. the cat never was and never will be both dead and alive since a) the observer is horrible misinterpreted and b) the cat is it's own observer
Materially it is still coffee, but Hegel was no materialist. You don't drink the coffee because it is coffee, you drink the coffee because it is not tea.
@@davidwuhrer6704this makes sense. I would further put it as "you don't drink plain coffee becuase it is plain coffee, but because it has no milk/no cream in it. "
hey girl, would you like to come up for not-coffee 😏😏
*Everyone*: “So like can you pay your debt?”
*Greece* :
I guess some people can be saved...
I thought his shirt was just a reference to 'Bartleby, the Scrivener'?
It is, but he repurposes it for his own argument. I think it fails because he draws on literature to explain a reality in a way that claims to supercede the reality as it is experienced. His point may be valid, but it's not clear what the validity of his point leaves us with.
Same!
_ S. I think rather naively although I could be mistaken that essentially what the line means for Slavoj is that sometimes doing nothing is more effective than doing something. I could be wrong though.
he makes my heart beat so fast omg
I accidentally had this video playing at 1.25 speed and was shocked this guy can speak so fast
It must be from too much coffe.
2:02 “it’s just plain coffee” “GET OUT”
*genau
AP 21 yes, I know German; it was a joke.
@Nothing is Real uh yeah that's the joke. Ever heard of Peter Jordanson?
@@lucky-mud lmao, thanks for the laughs
It fits in her reaction too 🤣
If I invited a girl over for coffee and she told me she didn't drink coffee and I said no worries I don't have any, she'd think I was a creep.
depends on wether you are good loking or not
@@guguigugu If she finds you good looking she won't say she doesn't drink coffee. At least she would add "I won't mind tea though" or something. Otherwise it is a polite rejection and if you keep pushing you might come off as a creep. Women can act bolder nowadays without the risk of harrassment accusations.
In the movie reference, the Guy said he would love to Go up before saying he doesn't drink coffee though, so he was alredy hitting on her
Onur Böle And the same applies to a guy. He would also say "I won't mind a tea though." Your point being? Oh right.. there is no point. You're just trying to find an excuse to push your narrative. Buddy, I don't think you're intelligent enough yet to watch Zizek, let alone try to comment on what he says.
Based on this comment you may, indeed, be a creep
He looks like a giant in that chair compared to her.
I know he looks green screened in hahaha
Now I can't unsee it :)
"I would prefer not to"
This is the iconic line of Bartleby the Scrivener, by Melville
Beautiful novel
FromSoftware needs to hire this man to write the next Souls game. His words are nebulous, so magical, but deep down so full of meaning and beauty.
Me showing my mom my new shirt
He got the point here.
But I think that this video, altought of all philosphical value, is ideal for watch when you are stoned. You will feel so "WOKE".
dosłownie przyjemniej oglądać jakiś randomowy filmik na haju niż tego głupka, ciężko się patrzy
@@damazywlodarczyk nie szkaluj Žižeka wrr
Yeah I agree with you. Almost everytime I'm stoned I end up watching Zizek's videos
@@mephy45 Honestly there are other things I find way more enjoyable to do, but I inevitably end up in these videos. TH-cam is pretty addicting.
This comment summarises everything one would need to know about the sort of demographic that Žižek appeals to.
I’ve yet to come across a stoner with a passion for the likes of say, Evola. Really makes you think..
This guy pronouncing his own name probably sounds like gargling toothpaste
Did he just do a 360 dbl index finger-roll straight into a triple sniff nose grab? he is sick wit it
*woman breathes in*
Me: Oh she is going to ask Zizek a question
Woman: *blasts out in European*
EUROPEAN
It's Bavarian, a language that's closely related to many finno-ugrish tongues such as Hungarian; it's nearly incomprehensible to non-native speakers because of the 70 words they have for beer, one of which is used to start each sentence and one to indicate the ending.
@@ourladydiscorderisesoteric8582 I like you
@@hugoclarke3284 I like myself too.
@@ourladydiscorderisesoteric8582 it's swiss-german not bavarian
3:25 The moment I burst out with laughter
I don't understand where all these weird Mark Hamill recommendations are coming from
Bartelby the Scrivener.One of the greatest short stories of all time.
This idea becomes very important for dynamic non-stable systems & neuroscience.
System that blockes free flow in order to perpetuate.
Exterior, interior, sensations on the boundary and action from within through- /or from the boundary to exterior.
2:03 “it’s just coffee”
“Get out”
Hey! His coke nose tick has improved I see! He isn't touching his nose 10 times a minute anymore! Or maybe this was one of his good days...
I love her totally confused expression.
Zizek is what you get when intellect detaches from being
Its like he's talking at a normal pace but vibrating and gesturing rapidly as if he's speaking extremely fast about something terribly urgent.
Here it is: the magic of every day's ideology explained to non philosophists.
Oh man its so cool that theyre talking in two languages that so HAWT OH MEIN GOTT
I get a spirit boner for translation and presence
I got a coke high just watching this
"I would prefer not to" is from Herman Melville's "Bartleby the Scrivener: A Story of Wall Street."
I Would prefer not to. (Zizek/Bartleby) T-Shirt
Source: TeePublic
3:42
He's so passionate, I love it.
Possibly the greatest advert for a T-shirt company ever.
This is the most Zizek video of all the Zizek videos.
from North America, thank you for making this available German tv
Austria would like to have a word with you
WTF is he talking about ever.
Read Hegel and you're gonna be even more confused
@@danlyndon1905 That all just sounds like truisms. What's the point?
@@danlyndon1905 of course we see coffee with cream as something different than coffee without it. We only think of the cream because a lot of people drink coffee with cream in it. How is this not a truism? Everybody understands that's how things work.
@@danlyndon1905 coffee without cream isn't different to coffe without milk to me, because a lot of people drink coffee with milk. Nobody thinks of cyanide when talking about coffee, because almost nobody wants cyanide with coffee. I dont know how much you're saying tbh.
@@danlyndon1905 I know that's why you used cyanide as an example. Who doesn't understand that our ideaology affects how we see the world? It still seems like a truism. What is he saying that is interesting and/or insightful?
2:02 "get out"
Also, I have to have that shirt.
Genau *
At least you don't have this shirt. It's half way to the synthesis.
WHY WAS THIS IN MY RECOMMENDED
Beauty and the Beast
I would prefer not to be alive but then again here I am :)
There are a lot of unmentioned background concepts that we take for granted. For example, someone had to invent the concept of "rights", is it the best concept on which to base the protection of our freedoms? Could there be other base concepts that are better? Or consider that the Justice system deals mainly in making sure bad deeds are punished, but does not spend nearly as much time making sure good deeds are rewarded, and that's an entire half of justice. Capitalism, liberalism, and so on are all water we swim in and don't see, and we are told we have can have this ideology as opposed to that ideology, when it is also possible to construct your own worldview and your own solutions.
Anyone who enjoys Brassed Off is alright by me
Zombies 🧟♂️... Jordan Peterson has no chance
@@yungAndreiRublev that wasn't the point Beth was making, Jordan Peterson used Lobsters to explain a point, Zizek upped the game and is using Zombies.
@@yungAndreiRublev i dont know if youre being sarcastic or not😅 but anyways I agree with you that Jordan Peterson is way more serious than Slavoj Zizek
@@yungAndreiRublev limited is my time to convey my true thoughts and feelings via mobile text.
Checkmy location. Geeveston, Tasmania Australia. The world is burning for some... We have nothing but time left and I choose the comfortable seclusion that TH-cam offers.
I think both a great different stile of playing the drums but both can play
Hassan Soliman Why doesn’t he clean up his room then?
How TF does all this relate to the damn t-shirt. It seems like Zizek always starts saying something and ends with something else, like Simpsons episodes.
4:16
*intvinting him not for coffee*
What he is saying is that the MEANS to an end, matter just as much as the end point.
Arriving at a state, whether is politics, culture, society, and so on is not mutually exclusive to how u got there. The mechanisms that allow for certain state matter because they control things goin forward
He should've given credit to the OG Bartleby, the Scrivener
I would prefer not to.
Can't I just buy the shirt from the Melville estate and not give credit?
Yes. I bet he sees himself as a kind of scrivener now. Maybe he has to keep churning out new books just to pay the bills now and wishes he could refuse to do it, like Melville's Bartleby.
'Ideology gives you coffee without milk which is in reality coffee without cream.'
What does it mean? What does ideology give us? The thing which is practically the same thing as my wish but with a different imposed deficiency? Is that how ideology cheats us?
My interpretation is that it hides what is or isn't included with a certain ideology, and maybe even tries to represent it as something else instead (coffee without milk instead of coffee without cream).
As an example, liberalism might tell you that it's most important feature is living without oppression. In negating rule by authoritarian dictate, it produces freedom. Life without oppression. Of course looked at a different way, you could say it actually allows oppression to flourish by ceding the power of the state to the market. In this sense, democratic self-determination is negated in the name of the efficiency of the market.
Materially, both these worlds can look the same, but the ideological trick is in how they're framed. Rule of law guaranteeing freedom from the persecution of something like a hereditary monarchy might seem like a worthwhile negation to make liberalism appealing, but seeing it as the negation of the revolutionary impulse while preserving class hierarchy, it suddenly doesn't sound quite as good.
So what the thing ISN'T is an important part of how we view systems, objects, or ideas. Only looking at the material is's gives a limited perspective and probably means you just accept the conventional framing without much critical thought. Again though, this is just my attempt at an interpretation.
Materially it is coffee, whether it is without cream or without milk. As long as it has neither in it, it is the same thing, if possibly for different reasons.
As soon as you can't have your coffee black, the distinction starts to matter.
I've been telling this to people for ... heck over a decade. Didn't know Zizek was on the same page.
Except it is much more pertinent when people say stuff like "I don't think that so and so" instead of " I think that so and so isn't" because starting sentences with "I don't think" is usually a very true self descriptor :)
I think he would have made his point better if he said: a coffee without milk, isn’t the same as a coffee without Milk, without cream, without soya milk, without almond milk... etc
I love that I don't need subtitles for this xD
I love how the subtitles end at a certain point
Zizek - I have to spit on everyone whilst talking
Covid: I’m about to ruin this man’s whole career.
When aliens come with advanced technology and omnipotent abilities and they dominate the Earth; they ask sarcastically what humanity has discovered in terms of intellectual matters as they laugh at our abilities : *Slavoj Zizek cries in Hegelian negation about the comparison between coffee without milk and ideology*
We are the aliens
@3:32 which book(s) does Zizek refer to?
The Jewish and Indian joke is free real estate for this man
Slovaj sells Sally’s salty seashells by the southern seashore
Thank you Fillip, very cool.
I am not merely poor, I am simply un-rich; my wretchnedness is simply a temporary lack of opulence.
I get what he's saying, that the negation of a thing alters our perception of the thing which is not another thing. What I don't understand is how this example of ideology relates to the big political picture. How can we use our understanding of negation to help us understand politics and the economy and all those important things that concern leftists?
The easy answer is to plug in that observation into the psychology of desire. The harder, truer answer, is to plug it into the neurology of temporal perception.
@@mastermenthe Thank you!
This man frightens me to my bones
I feel like think makes more sense if you know he’s talking about linguistics and not whatever example he’s actually using but idk because I already knew that.
I didn't unlike this video
BAM!
She’s brave sitting in the splash zone
Haha, exactly, that s why when people ask : " how are you?", they also expect the only possible answer that is : "Good and you?" Lol
Don't ask that in Europe, you might get an answer.
He cannot not be serious!
So I'm assuming Zizek understands German, but chooses to respond in English? Is that right?
Yes, there is videos where he talks entirely in German. He might not feel confident enough in his abilities to correctly express complex ideas.
Can someone please tell me who this wonderfully articulate reporter is and how to watch more of her German interviews???
its not german, shes swiss and her last name is bleisch
2 years of re education camp lmfao
I think he flirts with the reporter in a really screwed up way of his. She even reacts a bit.
It is quite obvious he is flirting. It works because smart is sexy for woman. Zizek is a player, just google image some of his ex'
@@Fabzil Yes man, I agree. My hope is that women will come to reason and appreciate intellect.
“Coffee without cream is the same as coffee without milk”
“Getout “
Please place subtitle my English isn't enough for that
She needs a shirt which says "I would prefer if Zizek sat further away"
American coffee, please. I ❤ Zizek’ s approach to philosophy
Bartleby, the Scrivener
"It simply means, you are alive, if you are not dead." has me rolling
Imagine coming from the 4th industrial power in the world, and not speaking English with your guest, who's from a much less economically developed country... oh Germans...