This is a terrific little game, one that I enjoy tremendously. Lincoln is right that you really do have to play multiple games in one sitting for it to get its hooks into you. Once you know the cards and the synergies this game soars. One of my favourite fillers, right up there with For Sale. Happy to see it played by two of my favourite you tube gaming pairings! Thanks..
@@atomiccritter6492 That may very well be true but, then, those people will be missing out in one of the most entertaining fillers around. It’s just a fun little game, nothing more nothing less, but when you pull off one of the tough combos it’s so thrilling.
At 38:18 Monique could've made the mirage any kind of flame so the smoke wouldn't have been blanked. The Mirage and Shapeshifter can copy the name and suit (but not anything else) of any of the cards in the game which have the correct suit depending on if you have the mirage or shapeshifter. The doppelganger is the one that can only copy something in your hand, but it also copies the base strength and penalty (but not bonus).
I couldn’t find this anywhere, could you tell me if ‘any cards in the game’ includes the unrevealed ones in the deck and ones in your opponent’s hands?
@@shanpengishere yes, “in the game” can be any card, even unrevealed and in your opponents hands. That’s the wording of shapeshifter and mirage. Doppelganger says “can copy any card” but doesn’t say “in the game” so it’s only something in your hand. The designer even said the erratta for Doppelgangar should say “can copy any card in your hand”.
What a fun episode! I've been looking at this game, but hadn't made up my mind, but you guys have almost guaranteed it a place in my little games collection. And the two guests were excellent! I've watched some of Monique and Naveen's channel, but never subscribed to it, but this was so much fun, I'm going to do that right now! One quick question about the game. In the example Monique was showing at the start of the game, she has a Dwarf Army which had a penalty of -2 for every other Army. She had another card which removed the word Army from all penalties; so does that mean the -2 per Army on the Dwarf Army, would no longer count? Fantastic episode guys, I hope you'll invite Monique and Naveen round again!
I didn't realize Naveen and Monique did a Game Night with you guys! I've been subscribed to them for awhile as well. Wow. Interesting game to pull out with your friends. Lovely episode, now I need to loom out for this game 😅😂.
man imagine if lincoln had gotten the chance to replace the basilisk with the bell tower... 6 cards straight and active candle - 200 point combo without taking into account anything else i think this game is going on my wishlist - i love building combos like that =)
At 6:27 Naveen says that you can't take a card from the discard and put it back down, but there is nothing in the rules that says you can't. Either way, Before You Play is one of my favorite channels!
Nice to see you have fun together! This group is great. I dont think this game is suited for a playthrough on youtube though 😁 the viewers cant see whats in everybodys hands and for me that takes away the fun of a playthrough. But its nice to see how this game plays, its a kenner Spiel nominee so i was curious whats it all about 👍
Thanks for making this video! I forgot how much I liked this game and it's the perfect warm-up for my game session this weekend. Also, it's good to see Monique finally do poorly at a game since she's so incredibly good at most games 😆.
Hope you 4 play more games together for us to watch. Would like to know what you all think of Capital Lux 2 if played. Would be great one to watch you all play.
At 18:21, if Wildfire blanks all cards except for the suits and cards listed, wouldn't that also blank the wild cards? Wilds aren't listed as exceptions.
Couldn't Nikki have gotten more points in the first round by taking the 15 Point Army card? it would have been 15 Points and her Leader would have given a 15 point Bonus for that, netting her 13 more points and bringing her to a total of 227.
@Wizzykin Different strokes I guess, Fantasy Realms hit's the table fairly regularly at ours. Plus it's HIGHLY portable so it goes on the road frequently as well.
I always appreciate the uploads of rules and playthroughs...despite being a fan of card games and short games this just didnt do it for me at all..oh well
You draft off the top of the deck or from the leftover discarded cards from the other player. Match ends when there's a certain number of cards in the discarded area.
You start with no cards. IIRC you then take two of the top of the deck and discard one, until you have seven cards in hand. Then you both continue taking one card and discarding one until there are 12(?) discards out. Something like that. It works well and I really enjoy the two player game as well as larger player counts.
A rather over-complicated scoring system for such a quick game. Playing a quick card game, I think you shouldn't have to have an app in order to calculate your points.
This game looks fun but is ruined by the terrible, cheap illustrations. Please hire a real freelance illustrator to collaborate with/share royalties instead of using a cheap studio that churns out generic comicbook art.
That game just came to germany and is nominated for the Kennerspiel des Jahres and the box has a different cover art, but I do not know, if they changed the cards too. You might have a look at some german YT channels that show the game
@@boardgamegeek - ohh ok, thanks for clearifying Lincoln. It was sooooo nice to see you all together discussing these games. If I could, I would love to read that Robin Hood book for you so you could experience more of the game
@@schoko-fan4370 Thanks for the offer! We ended up using Google Translate because we didn't get all of the pages necessary to play the first chapter. I look forward to the English edition coming out. Tanks for the note and for watching.-Lincoln
Thank you so much for having us. We had a blast!
Nice to see two great channels coming together!
Ohhhhh my two favorites duos toghether!!!!
Plus, I love how Monique explains the rules!!! ❤️
My thoghts exactly
she gives insightful tips !
Great to see Naveen and Monique! Love their channel. Great job as always!
I'm a simple person, I see Monique and Naveen, I click and watch! These two are awesome!
Monique and Naveem!!?? Wow! I love their channel- Before You Play! Not expecting this one!
Very good chemistry/synergy between the two channels.
Wow Naveen won twice! Remember him saying multiple times he really didn't like that game (as opposed to Monique). It's the year of the Naveen! 😉
Yeah, Monique and Naveen with Nikki and Lincoln..... Oh yeah, life is good❤️. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
Hey guys, love this episode. Collaboration is always so nice to see especially from both content creators you love to watch.
So fun to see Monique and Naveen. Love them!!!
"Let's get in there and do a lot of addition." -- LOL What a tagline!
This is a terrific little game, one that I enjoy tremendously. Lincoln is right that you really do have to play multiple games in one sitting for it to get its hooks into you. Once you know the cards and the synergies this game soars. One of my favourite fillers, right up there with For Sale. Happy to see it played by two of my favourite you tube gaming pairings! Thanks..
the generic fantasy theming will put off a large amount of people imho
@@atomiccritter6492 That may very well be true but, then, those people will be missing out in one of the most entertaining fillers around. It’s just a fun little game, nothing more nothing less, but when you pull off one of the tough combos it’s so thrilling.
I love both of your channels, great to see you all playing together!
Please repeat this kind of collaboration. We're always playing with other couples and the vibe was quite enjoyable.
At 38:18 Monique could've made the mirage any kind of flame so the smoke wouldn't have been blanked.
The Mirage and Shapeshifter can copy the name and suit (but not anything else) of any of the cards in the game which have the correct suit depending on if you have the mirage or shapeshifter.
The doppelganger is the one that can only copy something in your hand, but it also copies the base strength and penalty (but not bonus).
@@zlyntudteam2394 Yeah they really screwed up the wording in the prouction of the game
I couldn’t find this anywhere, could you tell me if ‘any cards in the game’ includes the unrevealed ones in the deck and ones in your opponent’s hands?
@@shanpengishere yes, “in the game” can be any card, even unrevealed and in your opponents hands. That’s the wording of shapeshifter and mirage. Doppelganger says “can copy any card” but doesn’t say “in the game” so it’s only something in your hand. The designer even said the erratta for Doppelgangar should say “can copy any card in your hand”.
@@SolviKaaber thank you for the clarification!
Love ittt!!! See all of you together!!! What a nice surprise!!!
Very nice episode. Really like having Before You Play with Gamenight! together. Nice fit. Thank you.
This game looks great! Thanks for constantly introducing me to new games!
Fantasy Realms hits really well at our place, highly recommended...unless your gaming group only wants to play 4-6 hour Lacerda games.
That's so cool, two of my favorite creators together!!
Great timing! Just bought this game and have not played it yet.
I really want to know what are the favorite games for Nikki and Lincoln. They've played so much already, this would certainly be a useful list for me.
Bruce is an amazing (yet under recognized) game designer.
That was enjoyable to watch, thanks, you four!
ALL OF MY BOARD GAMING HEROES IN ONE VIDEO!!! YAY!
What a fun episode! I've been looking at this game, but hadn't made up my mind, but you guys have almost guaranteed it a place in my little games collection.
And the two guests were excellent! I've watched some of Monique and Naveen's channel, but never subscribed to it, but this was so much fun, I'm going to do that right now!
One quick question about the game. In the example Monique was showing at the start of the game, she has a Dwarf Army which had a penalty of -2 for every other Army. She had another card which removed the word Army from all penalties; so does that mean the -2 per Army on the Dwarf Army, would no longer count?
Fantastic episode guys, I hope you'll invite Monique and Naveen round again!
Yes, exactly what you said would happen: the penalty would be ignored in that scenario.
Love this group! Nice to see you 4 together!
I didn't realize Naveen and Monique did a Game Night with you guys! I've been subscribed to them for awhile as well. Wow. Interesting game to pull out with your friends. Lovely episode, now I need to loom out for this game 😅😂.
man imagine if lincoln had gotten the chance to replace the basilisk with the bell tower... 6 cards straight and active candle - 200 point combo without taking into account anything else
i think this game is going on my wishlist - i love building combos like that =)
At 6:27 Naveen says that you can't take a card from the discard and put it back down, but there is nothing in the rules that says you can't. Either way, Before You Play is one of my favorite channels!
Man I adore you guys!
This game is getting more hype than Red Rising...because of Red Rising :)))))
That is so true!
Red rising sucks tho
Though the fact that it was nominated for Kennerspiel des Jahres 2021 also plays a role I think.
@@LaChazzz This.
Nice to see you have fun together! This group is great.
I dont think this game is suited for a playthrough on youtube though 😁 the viewers cant see whats in everybodys hands and for me that takes away the fun of a playthrough. But its nice to see how this game plays, its a kenner Spiel nominee so i was curious whats it all about 👍
Thanks for making this video! I forgot how much I liked this game and it's the perfect warm-up for my game session this weekend.
Also, it's good to see Monique finally do poorly at a game since she's so incredibly good at most games 😆.
Hope you 4 play more games together for us to watch.
Would like to know what you all think of Capital Lux 2 if played. Would be great one to watch you all play.
You mentioned it can be played with 2 players, I'm curious how different the game is with 2 and if it's still as great. :)
Lincoln could have gotten 30 more points in the first game with the Shapeshifter and the Bow!!
Yes.. Nice to see Monique and Naveen here. Let's see... Dave or Monique for rules teach? Love you Dave, but you know...
Dave is far far better probably THE best person of rules explanations online. I suspect you were a little swayed by Moniques prettiness
They are both fantastic but Dave has the edge. He is really so good especially when you recognise that he teaches games he’s never played sometimes.
@@atomiccritter6492 Nope, it's the Lacerda games she taught... Very good. Okay I'll give you the prettiness part. 😁
Monique! ♥️
Would love to know what's the app you were using for scoring, thanks :)
We are using the WizKids app. It definitely helps make the game quicker for sure.-Lincoln
@@boardgamegeek 🙏🙏🙏
The Year of Naveen!
Nikki, Was "pruned"a Loki joke?
Yeah. :-) -Nikki
Seems like This game is sold out everywhere. Any leads on where I can purchase?
With all the Red Rising related press + the Spiel nomination, they'll reprint it. Just be patient.
It's on Amazon for about $18. Just got myself a copy and we played four times in-a-row. Love it!
At 18:21, if Wildfire blanks all cards except for the suits and cards listed, wouldn't that also blank the wild cards? Wilds aren't listed as exceptions.
For the most part, the rules are “read the cards”. 😆
Not my cup of tea, but I suppose it does what it tries to do fairly well.
Couldn't Nikki have gotten more points in the first round by taking the 15 Point Army card? it would have been 15 Points and her Leader would have given a 15 point Bonus for that, netting her 13 more points and bringing her to a total of 227.
I wish you could have shown the App !
If you are interested you can download the app (wizkids) without the game. It's also great for checking out all the cards and possible combinations!
Does anyone know the app they were using? Sorry if someone already asked this.
Did Naveen lose a bet? I thought this was his least favorite game? Lol
Was thinking exactly the same thing!
@Wizzykin Different strokes I guess, Fantasy Realms hit's the table fairly regularly at ours. Plus it's HIGHLY portable so it goes on the road frequently as well.
Is the app no longer supported? Can’t seem to find it (“fantasy realms”)…
I’m not sure what happened but they do have a web based app that you can do the scoring at this website: wizkids.com/fantasy-realms/ -Lincoln
@@boardgamegeek Thanks! Game is coming in today and we’ll be playing this weekend with some friends. Can’t wait!
shapeshifter could be another Gem of Order?
forget ir, it doesn't add the bonuses
I always appreciate the uploads of rules and playthroughs...despite being a fan of card games and short games this just didnt do it for me at all..oh well
Please play red rising next!! Maths is fun!
Do they give us a scoring app? ;-) -Lincoln
@@boardgamegeek Yes theres a fanmade scoring app on BGG called Red Rising Companion! You should try it!
What is name of App?
Got rid of this from my collection. Fun, but didn’t end up feeling deep enough for us.
Gem of order could have been done in the first game
How do you play 2 this with 2 players
You draft off the top of the deck or from the leftover discarded cards from the other player. Match ends when there's a certain number of cards in the discarded area.
You start with no cards. IIRC you then take two of the top of the deck and discard one, until you have seven cards in hand. Then you both continue taking one card and discarding one until there are 12(?) discards out. Something like that. It works well and I really enjoy the two player game as well as larger player counts.
I really don't care for it. I'd rather play Red Rising now.
A rather over-complicated scoring system for such a quick game. Playing a quick card game, I think you shouldn't have to have an app in order to calculate your points.
I really think that is why this game is in the Kennerspiel Des Jahres category. Thanks for the note and for watching the video. -Lincoln
Sounds like it's not for you
you don't need the app. I was pausing the video and scoring the hands manually. It's definitely a bit of math, but not hard to do.
This game looks fun but is ruined by the terrible, cheap illustrations. Please hire a real freelance illustrator to collaborate with/share royalties instead of using a cheap studio that churns out generic comicbook art.
That game just came to germany and is nominated for the Kennerspiel des Jahres and the box has a different cover art, but I do not know, if they changed the cards too. You might have a look at some german YT channels that show the game
The cover art in the new edition is the art on the back of the box from the previous edition. I don’t think much was changed inside the box.
@@boardgamegeek - ohh ok, thanks for clearifying Lincoln. It was sooooo nice to see you all together discussing these games. If I could, I would love to read that Robin Hood book for you so you could experience more of the game
@@schoko-fan4370 Thanks for the offer! We ended up using Google Translate because we didn't get all of the pages necessary to play the first chapter. I look forward to the English edition coming out. Tanks for the note and for watching.-Lincoln
Red Rising, is that you? Your old face threw me off a bit.
My favourite channels toghether. 🥹🥹🥹 Amazing. ❤