General Mark Milley: How to Avoid a Great-Power War | The Foreign Affairs Interview
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- Foreign Affairs invites you to listen to its podcast, The Foreign Affairs Interview. This episode with General Mark Milley was originally published on May 2, 2023.
As the Biden administration continues to provide massive amounts of military and economic support to Ukraine, it also has its eyes on China. What will it take to deter Beijing from attempting to seize Taiwan someday? What is the best strategy to avoid a great-power conflict? How can the United States maintain its technological edge on the battlefield?
These are the questions that occupy the Pentagon’s leadership, including U.S. Army General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Before becoming chairman, the president’s top military adviser, he served as chief of staff of the U.S. Army. He has deployed all over the world, including multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.
We discuss the battlefield dynamics in Ukraine, how concern over escalation has shaped Western support for Kyiv, and how the United States can avoid a great-power war in the future.
SOURCES FOR THIS EPISODE:
“What’s Really Going on Between Russia and China” by Alexander Gabuev
www.foreignaffairs.com/united...
“How China Could Save Putin’s War in Ukraine” by Liana Fix and Michael Kimmage
www.foreignaffairs.com/china/...
“The Myth of Multipolarity” by Stephen G. Brooks and William C. Wohlforth
www.foreignaffairs.com/united...
“The West Needs a New Strategy in Ukraine” by Richard Haass and Charles Kupchan
www.foreignaffairs.com/ukrain...
“Don’t Panic About Taiwan” by Jessica Chen Weiss
www.foreignaffairs.com/china/...
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I honestly wish this interview was twice as long.
a general that doesn’t see war as a good option is exactly the general we need
Tank you General Milley for your mission...
Fenomenal asi fi vrut să aud m-ai multe gen Mark Milly
I was just looking for an English channel on this type of subject.
Good interview
Very informative discussion. The idea of future war being decided in cities/urban areas is disturbing.
Milley makes a point of sharing the anecdote of the elderly WWII veteran and his humble request to never let a great war happen again. I completely recognize that our perspective here has changed due to loss of institutional memory, but notable, credible people say failure to provide more materiel, long range weapons and jets to Ukraine makes that great war more likely, not less. Good interview, but I would have liked to have seen more of these contradictions (or at least controversies) addressed.
I could listen to Milley all fucking day long.
Now I know why he’s the chief of staff
Excellent interview!
Great interview... thanks 👍🇨🇱
Well, he's been brilliant so far.
Very articulate man, we are in good hands
Very good video thank you!
Deepest respect for General Milley. Truly a man of honor and integrity, who we are extremely lucky to have in our military's leadership.
I enjoy listening to Milley
Excellent interview.
Curious - at 24:26, what Milley/defense establishment consider the "about 20 other technologies" are. Could certainly venture a few obvious educated guesses, but would be interested some of the ones that might not be on my radar.
Você é fantástico..vc fala muito bem..gosto de ouvi-lo
Brilliant analysis by the Gen.
Very enlightening, Gen Miller has taken flack but he got to his position through hard brains...
Thanks，General👍
A refreshingly sober account of the status quo.
Very eloquent for an army officer.
I love it when a general actually discusses war theory and tactics with lead echelons and terrains. Usually you only get to see them in public forums with rhetoric speeches about valued partners and cooperation.
interesting.
Excellent episode. I just found your channel last week and I am impressed with the quality of each interview
Thank you very much!
Never let it happen Again.
Very candid discussion. Thanks.
I love listening to General Milley speak, very informative..
Is there a transcript for this interview?
This was a breath of fresh air type interview. Thank you for interviewing him. What a solid military leader we have. I am proud and impressed
To the point, indepth and insightful discussion, Thanks for sharing.
A real insight into America's military capabilities. This man is reassuring.
What an absolute hero of American reality takes, and contemporary analysis, for Our military, and for a unified political perspective, aspiring to survive, with dignity, security, and compassion, for all, of which even the enemies of the American way of life, must consider when tasking for longevity in the policies they embrace.
Brilliance. Thank you, Chairman Mark Milley.
á la Quora..."Thanks sent"
General Milley is a man of wisdom, as a Chinese I'm not on the same side with him but he have my respect.
Again a nice guest, with interesting information, thx for the interview.
You bet, he knows his stuff! He also makes a good point re: the importance of a unified and 'motivated' population like Ukraine, compared to Taiwan, where as much as a quarter of the Taiwanese are still 'ambivalent' (at best) re: the prospect of defending against 'reunification'.
Art thou a prophet...
Some notes:
"Convergence of technologies…
AI + Quantum computing + robotics
Combine that with cyber, space…
…there’s a lot of things happening undersea.
And just like in the past: the country that optimizes those technologies for the conduct of warfare, that country is going to have a decisive advantage at least at the beginning and the opening shots of the next war.
I would argue that the future operating environment will be extraordinarily more lethal than that which we’ve seen in the past.
Because you can see better, sense the environment better, hit it with precision better, you can probably hit with speed better. Decision in future war will probably occur in highly dense urban areas.
Firstest with the mostest!
A future force will need to be lots of small entities…constant states of movement in order to survive in a highly lethal environment. Invisible either though technology or basic cover and concealment.
A third of that force will need to fundamentally transform in order to outpace…anything that can be thrown at us."
"General, never let it happen again."
Cool.
Compare him to McMaster. It is incomprehensible that both are colleagues
Has the #USA ever had such a well educated Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman as Gen. Milley?
Very interesting interview , we learned a lot.
Gen. Mark Milley want to keep US is # 1 in the world, and use right way……
Milley is an amazing leader 😁
I always appreciate his perspective
Great insights!
listening to this General carefully I think we can safely say he is the right person at the right time for the right job
28:54 so we are using espionage ?
Absolutely phenomenal episode
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great interview.
I worry about the US army lately. I’ve been a longtime observer of the US military. I am a total peacenik. All war is a crime.
That said, I want my team to have the ability to go toe to toe with any great power and I don’t see us lasting any longer than 6 months if all stupidity breaks out. We just don’t have the stuff we need to grind.
It’s a national security crisis. That’s my call and I’m sticking to it.
🇦🇺👍
Lots of respect for this man. Thank you for service, General.
Excellent guest! You just gained a subscriber.
Home run on this interview/………….
It would seem nuclear weapons are forgotten but not gone ...
Hat off for Gen. Milley for his well done job in the office. It's always the politician who want to start a war, and let's stop them.
The single smartest American take on the war.
❤❤❤thank you General Milley ❤ from Denmark
Wish the discussion was longer and in more detail. Gen Milley asserts that since we have larger cities and more people living in them, a future war will be decided in the streets, but I want to hear this idea explored further. Starting with, what would be the planning objectives of a US-China war for either side? Would it even be necessary to capture and hold most cities? I think maybe not since our cities are more vulnerable than ever to siege tactics due to their huge demand for non-local sources of food and energy. Far more likely that a conventional US-China war would focus first on rapid neutralization of the opponent's kinetic capabilities (C2, airbases, and naval yards, mostly) and second on seizing or denying strategic resources (dams, refineries, railways, commercial ports), with the overall goal of knocking the opposing superpower down a peg on the world stage.
How to avoid a big power war is to get proxies to do it.
Respect from Poland.
He seems like a very smart guy and his analysis of our current situation rings true.
Wisdom personified
Excellent, thank you very much.
Very good discussion.
Thank you. That's one intelligent solid Rock 😊
By sending more weapons cuz muhhh democracy
I had a moment there when he talked about Russia and China having the ability to hit precise targets from long ranges.
Russia might technically have the capability to produce such weapons, but they sure haven't demonstrated that they've done so in anything resembling relevant quantities.
Speak softly and carry a big stick
I like the part where General Milley said.... Ukraine will Win!!!!!
GOD BLESS 🙏🙏🙏
General Milley is a titin of a man, Much Respect for him.
I for one think Ukraine would love to have some allies join the fight against Russia.
Also Ukraine is not a land locked country. I know what he meant though.
Form a Army Generals view Ukraine has like No navy worth mentioning except new drones & it plays a Very small role in the conflict.
My respect General Marc Milley!
Gen Milley has clearly thought about this 100 times more than the politicians in our Congress and executive branch. But I heard Scott Ritter say the same for Gen Colin Powell, but Ritter said Powell as honest and honerable as he was still lied to congress about WMDs in Iraq. We have great men and women in our military, not just courage but also wisdom. But our politicians don't listen.
Taiwan has paid for military weaponry from the USA that hasn’t even arrived so how do they bulk up their military weaponry?
He's good at being right no questions about moge
Why Seoul?
I like General Mark Milley
When small scale wars are conducted between robots, the next logical step seems to be wars fought only in simulations. This would happen when the cost of war is too high and simulations predict the outcome prior to the first shots.
General Mark Milley: How to Avoid a Great-Power War | The Foreign Affairs Interview
Extremely intelligent...why this intelligence is used to divide human beings instead of uniting us?
Devia durar mais tempo sim..
That's gold.
It's been great having him at that particular helm. Calling out the insurrectionists like a BOSS.
Politics is not general Miley's concern and his task is to plan for battles, train his soldiers and prepare logistics to win a war. He talks too much about politics and diplomacy.
Sky net
Mark needs to understand that the military alliance between Russia and China has happened. If he doesn’t think it happened now then he needs to accept that it will and prepare for it
I'm grateful America has men such as Gen. Milley protecting us.
What is going on you are attacking him he has no crystal ball to see how things will happen you can’t do his job by any means.
Miley must be a great general. He has more ribbons across his chest than General Washington, General Grant and General Eisenhower combined.
how about a conversation between MARK MILLEY AND DOUGLAS MCGREGOR!??? OR MILLEY AND MEARSCHMEIR! THAT would be a chat for the ages!! Thank You Foreign Affairs.
Not by sacrificing other people
Pay nothing but respect! Good job, General Milley!
In the Cold War China was a great power (see Foreign Affairs circa late 1980's, the editions were chock full of stories about the Three Great Powers: US, USSR, China). This is a miscalculation and isn't accurate to Chinese history. I hope we aren't communicating this messaging to partners, and more importantly, to the Chinese. Thanks.
Tip no. 1: stay out of Ukraine.
Miłley is a military beaurocrat and don't think he will be a good war-time general. He is way too soft for being the
US top soldier, but he will retire soon anyway.
Just loose in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 placate China. He will retire to some gulf club and speak on T.V. Say how he lost by following orders. Pathetic 😢
Equation of virtusity coming all the way
I don't think it involves wokery and hiring people based upon immutable characteristics rather than competence. Talk about projecting weakness. Absolute fool isn't he.