How to Install A Lally Column
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I show you how to easily install a lally column or metal and concrete support post to support the beam in my basement.
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You have to be the hardest working man on the planet. I admire your motivation and dedication. Great video.
😁 Thanks so much, Cheryl! I try my best and try to teach everyone what I know as I do it. I also might not be right all of the time but again, I try! Thanks for watching!!
Exactly what we need done in my basement, thank you, very well explained!!!1
Awesome! Hope it helps out. Thanks for watching, Elsa! And good luck! Let me know how it goes!
Thank you for the great video! I really appreciate the information. My local home stores carry many varieties of the temporary/adjustable columns but I am not finding these permanent Cement/Steel Lally Columns that you installed. Where can I purchase them?
Transferring the load thru the column onto a non-structural concrete floor. What load is the floor tested to carry? Without a footer to absorb the load, the concrete floor may crack.
He deals with this at 9:21
Throwing concrete in a hole isn't really dealing with it. Footer should be sized accordingly for load calculations, soil should be checked for bearing capacity, and the footer is missing steel reinforcement.
@@ab-qn7kv It is in a basement of an old home. Unless the ground underneath is unstable why wouldn't a foot of concrete do the job? What could go wrong? By the way these are real questions since I am clueless but having to deal with this at my Mom's house!
@@Irishatheart1962 He's just talking out of his ass. Why is he looking at this video if he already knows how to do it that's what you have to really think about.
@@dreamingcodethis! YT comments full of people like this lately! Good on you for calling it out 👍
Thank you, great video that covers all the aspects. We have a job very similar coming up, found your share very helpful! Thank you
Awesome. Good luck!
Thank you for posting this because I have to do it myself due to contactors not wanting to do small jobs.
Well I hope the video helps you out!
I’m having the same problem, no one wants to do this work anymore
Awesome video
Very nicely Done.
Where can you buy one filled with concrete? I can only find the adjustable ones in central Ohio.
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Thanks so much, Jenny! I really appreciate it!
Great video - thanks!
Great work
Thanks! And thanks for checking out the video!
Awesome video! Two questions:
1. How come you needed to add this column that you added? Is it because of the renovation you're doing upstairs, or is it just because the house didn't have enough of them to begin with?
2. How come you didn't have to cut a hole and add cement to the column you just installed in this video?
Ok that's it. Just wanna learn some more stuff :)
Hey auto fix! Great questions! 1. I wasn’t comfortable with the spacing of the posts for this beam. It was partly because we moved the living room into that area for the time being for the renovation. I noticed it was bouncy and putting all that weight there made me want to put the temporary post in. So I just figured I might as well put a permanent post in. 2. The only reason I put a footing for the other one and not this one is basically because I need a footing to meet code. If it was up to me I wouldn’t put a footing especially after finding out how solid the ground is with it being untouched soil and it has ledge and rocks in it. But directly above that footing upstairs is the post that supports the engineered beam I use to support the ceiling so it needs to be supported all the way down to a solid footing by code. Hope this all makes sense and you learned something! Thanks for watching!!
@@TheFixerHomeRepair Got it, it all makes sense! Thanks for taking the time to explain all that!
No problem!
Great vid bro, i have to change out 3 of them
Great work!
Great video! This is just what I needed . You cut a 16" x 16" square when adding another lally column. What determines the size of the square? Is this a town code item? Thank you
Hello,
I presently live in a home that have sagging floors. I have decided to purchase jacks and lift the floors from the basement. My question is are there any prep work required on the 1st and 2nd floor prior to installing the kicks and lifting? Do I need to be concerned with baseboard trim, door trim, or anything. I have received my drawings on where to place the jacks. I understand that my plaster and drywall will also begin to crack in some areas. I just want to get level floors before I purchase my new doors and install new trim.
GREAT JOB AS USUAL!
Thanks, June! 😁
Rap poster paper around your lally column mark, for a perfectly even cut-----!Great job carpenter/tin knocker!"
Where did you find the cement filled columns? I only get temporary/adjustable ones in searches
Did you find one?
@@azrahostetler571 Yeah I bought 2 Tel-O-Post Building Columns from Amazon for $76 each. They were the screw adjustable ones. I asked a home inspector in my area and he said adjustable is fine as long as you screw the plates in.
Why didn't you put some rebar in your hole you dug out for the new Lolly post?
I just bought a home built in the late 80s and the entire foundation has adjustable lally columns but they are poured into footers inside the basement floor. I’ve read conflicting reports if they should or shouldn’t be permanent. Clearly the builder intended for them to be. And they aren’t the sleeved adjustable ones. They are solid with just the top being adjustable.
Howd you get the measurements for the footer? Usually i was told that the size of the footer is based upon the frost line, type of soil, weight of live and dumb loads above and also with the type of lally column anchoring used.. in the southern area of the us on clay soil i had to dig a 36x36” steel reinforced footing with a floating 4” slab rebuild above the footer also anchoring the bottom of the column onto the footing but column had to be fixed into the slab with a welded top plate no less than the width of the lvl .. that made my hole in the basement over 44” deep and 36” square.. the floating slab required 4” of gravel and sand with the 4” slab.. this was all per some structural engineer.. i just think that was all waaay overkill for a 2 story home cuz ive seen 4 story houses with footers poured that size.. trying to figure out whether or not i need to put a footer up this engineers structure.. with a floating slab.. lol.. but seriously.. howd you determine the footer size?
Woah haha yeah that all sounds like overkill. That is usually what engineers do but unfortunately if you are required an engineer and that is what they tell you then that is what you need to do. In my case, I basically told the building inspector the size of the footer I intended to make and he said, ok haha. Easy peazy. I believe even that footer was overkill. Hope this answers your question and thanks for checking out the video!
Good content...Where do you get a filled lally columns? I'm not seeing any on home depot site. Just hardware.
I got them at home depot. Maybe they don't have them anymore? Or maybe just near you they are out? Do a google search for "building supplies" near me and check with them. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
Thank you!
One more quick question.. I did not find anything similar to what you're showing in this video.
I did find the jack posts. Would you recommend an alternate beam as a substitution for what you were using? I spent weeks looking for this column before I had finally broke down and reached out to you. Thank you for your time and patience!
@@Mrdealornodeal618 Hey Will! It really all depends on your situation and I really can't give you advise on supporting the structure of your house but I will tell you what I would do... For a spot like I have in this video where there just wasn't anything and I wanted a little extra support just in case, I would nail a pressure treated 2x6 or 2x8 to the floor and use a double or triple 2x8 or 2x10 kd stud from that plate to the bottom of the beam. If I was supporting a point load like where my lvl was supported and the footing was poured, I would reach out to the building dept. or an engineer for guidance. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
Does this require putting in a footer under the column??
Trying to understand the last part where a concrete footer was put in... Was that because you wanted to put a load bearing column or wall (that would be supporting the 2nd floor) on the beam at the new column in the new footer?
Hey! Yes so when I installed a beam on the first floor in the ceiling, it supported the ceiling load so to carry the weight of that beam I put a post down from that down to the beam in the basement and then a lally column directly under that down to the footing. Hope this makes sense. Thanks for watching!
do you need to add a concrete footer on the bottom?
Great! Thanks!!! It came out perfect!!!
Thanks, Manny. I appreciate that. I hope the video helps!
I’m assuming thats just a rat slab with no footing where the post is going, an 8”x8” concrete block under the post would help disperse the weight a little better.
What size bottle jack did you use? I have a 1500 sq ft two story house, would a 12 ton jack work? Also do you think resting the column on a paver would work? I'd want to prevent rust at the footing.
Thanks
Way cool, thanks!
How do you determine if a footing is necessary or not? Thanks
1 shoul you do quarter inch each time and take couple months until the floor is lavel or it does not matter can you give me more idea ?
Do you have to jack that column up if you want to keep the height or can you just wedged it in tight??
I haven't seen where to get these. They aren't at Lowes or Home depot. Where did you get yours?
That was awesome!
Omg!!! Thank you
Would a DIY homeowner typically need a building permit to do this? Thanks.
This will be a project for me too.
Hope this helps out, Will! Good luck and thanks for watching!
Where do you recommend getting the column the manufacturer only sells to retail stores and I can't seem to find the product anywhere
I’m having the same issue. I can find the plates at Home Depot but no one has the column
@@ryank1327 same thing for me. I guess I could use treated 6x6 but I'd honestly prefer to use one of these columns. Home depot told me the closest store that has then in stock was in connecticut which is much too far from me
@@Cold_raptor571I’m having the same issue, out of stock, Amazon has them, but not sure would trust them
This was great, thank you. I dont understand why you had to make the footing at the end of the video, There was concrete already there. Thank you
He said he dug down 12 inches thus making a footer. Original concrete slab was only 2.5 inches thick.
Awesome
Thanks, Buddy!
I would have gone for a lot stronger footer. Could have used some 3 x 3 #6 rebar floating in the center 3500 psi concrete. Hole could have also been way deeper 36". Great video otherwise.
And a wood block above to the subfloor if the load continues up.
Can you list where you got the Column and plates, cant seem to find ones you can trim. Thanks
Hey, Paul! I got these at Home Depot. They should be at most lumber yards/big box stores. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
@@TheFixerHomeRepair I could find the plates, but not the post, you remember who made them or HD sku number, Thanks for the reply
@@TheFixerHomeRepair I decided to use PSL column Weyerhaeuser sized a 3.5 x 7 1.8 so I will use that and stain the EWP
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Thanks for checking out the video, Melinda! 😁
The hammer was strong enough to break the concrete with one strike when you cut the column to length. Don’t the repeated strikes when placing the column pulverize the concrete inside the column?
Interesting question! I'd love to know the answer.
How many concrete bags for the footing
where did you learn everything you know? Are you a handyman or been working in construction?
You should of put concrete nails in the floor. The bent nails on top look sloppy. It would of been quicker to drill in 4 wood screws.
Why did you have to cut a footing for the second lally column? Why couldn't you just do exactly what you did with first?
Great vid!
Hey! The second lally column is directly under a point load for a beam I installed that supports the first floor ceiling. I cut the footing in because by code I needed one to support the load. Thanks for watching!
Little question_ if it is much stronger than wood, why do they use wooden props in mines to this very day?
If I had to guess, I would say ease of installation and transportation. These things are heavy. And I’m sure cost is factored in. I could get over 20 2x4’s for the price of one of these columns. Those are my best guesses. Thanks for checking out the video.
Where did all of that beard go?! Lol
Haha I had not shaved in a while and thought I would give it a shot. May or may not have regretted it haha. Thanks for checking out the video, Renee!
Buddy hard work with that column .. the only problem is you didn’t use steel rebar ... that makes your footing a footing not a frágil tick piece of concrete.
I'm not worried about it. I would be if I made a larger footing maybe but I am sure this footing will last 100 years+. Thanks for the feedback and for checking out the video.
Needs a footer poured, basement slab is not thick enough
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Thanks, Munequita!
That beam is supported by HULK.
Can I pole dance on it?
This wont pass inspection.Yes you do need to anchor bottom plate and yes you do need to weld top plate to column.Not just nails that was a joker right? Real strong bolts must be used.In case of minor earthquake this column likely to spring out! No real footer.Basement cement usually only 4inch thick not enough to support a huge load bearing column.Footer must be set below.Overall pretty amateurish crap job