Kai has only said like 4 words ever. Always so quiet, mysterious even. He’s been in all these bands, produced others, and nobody knows it. So for him to sit down and say this means it’s true!
Bands like Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, Edguy, Avantasia, Primal Fear, are just the tip of the iceberg that came from that root that is Helloween. Got a whole cd/lp section that was followed by a load of other bands that Kai did either support directly or had an massiv influenence on (my collection is sorted in a very crazy way😜 - and in this case nearly 2500 cds are in that Helloween section that got a direct or indirect connection to Kai Hansen). Since nearly 4 decades this man has an massive impact on the music scene, what an artist and such a nice grounded, sympathic and funny guy.
Kurt killed metal scene then he shot himself and also took grunge to his grave with him. he killed two genres in less than a decade lol. but glad heavy metal survived and grew stronger than ever
If you look at Germany and Sweden, metal was doing fairly well in the mid-90s. Some of Gamma Ray, Grave Digger and Running Wild’s best albums came out between ‘94 and ‘97, and younger bands at the time like Nocturnal Rites and Hammerfall made some major waves then too.
In Europe the scene was quite vital and active, actually: Germany - Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iron Savior, Running Wild, Primal Fear, Grave Digger, Rage, UDO, Blind Guardian, just to name a few, Sweden - Hammerfall, ( they were a great factor to reignite interest in classic metal and put it back on the mainstream), Lost Horizon, Yngwie Malmsteen, was very prolific as well, Finland - Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Italy - Rhapsody of Fire, Lacuna Coil ( yeah, not quite metal, but definitely they have a lot of elements from it ) France - Heavenly Let’s not forget the British legends Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motörhead and Saxon that were active as well Mind that these are just from the realm of the traditional heavy/power metal. I’m not mentioning the darker and heavier things like Children of Bodom, In Flames, Amorphis, Arch Enemy, the more approachable black metal bands like Immortal, Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Amon Amarth ( yes, they were a thing more than a decade before “Twilight of the thunder god” and were a bit heavier ) On top of this, South America had amazing bands as well, like Angra. My point was, that I agree that metal never died, but I disagree with the statement that it was dormant. Basically it only was like that in the US, because American audience got distracted by the retarded idiocies like grunge, alternative, nu “metal” and Pantera wannabes… Pantera sucked balls to begin with
Don't worry mr. Hansen, the true defenders of metal have kept the flame alive this whole time and it will keep burning no matter what clowns or fads they throw at us.
@@celioazevedoofficial I consider Kurt to be a true American hero. He fought tirelessly to change the misogynistic and homophobic views within rock music. The Seattle grunge bands were so much more open about their own vulnerability and mental health struggles compared to these heavy metal toxic masculinity driving assholes
@@mihir702 this pseudo-fight against homophoby and misoginy is the problem itself today , denying truths and dividing people in groups while stablishing rules baseds on lies, Kurt was an asshole
also many many bands like Angel Witch,Satan,Diamond Head which Metallica were their biggest fans btw did so many covers on their songs NWOBHM was something unique and I'm happy Hansen realises this ,long live Hansen and the NWOBHM followers
I disagree strongly. Kurt Cobain didn't kill anyone, it was media, people (that at the time, wanna listen something different and, do stupid shit fight about music) and record labels that kill music.
@@mariussantamarian9766 Big music companies just need to produce "models", I guess. I'm sure Cobain started just as a music lover obviously but in the end he was (still is) just marketed as a worldwide grunge icon, like a product, like a slave of the system. Probably way too much for him to handle for his character, not all can stand it.
I'm not a big fan of the grunge-scene. However, I don't think that grunge as a genre was the problem. The problem was what grunge brought with it! The values and the preferences within the grunge-scene, I absolutely despise those...
I don´t understand this hatred of metalheads against Nirvana and bands like them, I am a metalhead myself but I fucking love Nirvana, dude I mean this band put me in this world of rock n roll
The trend of grunge/alternative music, canceled the contracts of many metal musicians and killed much of the income for metal artists, shuted down the stream/production of the music we loved back then or put it four or five rows behind on the radio/tv playlists for more than a decade.
Kurt Cobain basically created the rift with his mouth and his attitude. Several metal bands wanted to tour with Nirvana and Kurt’s r*tarded punk rock ideology basically alienated the two scenes. By way of contrast, Alice In Chains regularly toured with metal bands in the early 90s and never really attacked the older scene. Enjoy whatever music you like, but this division was created long ago and still endures.
Let's make some funny jokes about one of your dear friends or family members who died tragically and then let me know how fun it is. This guy is a loser.
PaleBlueDot Suicide isn’t tragic cry-baby. Car accidents where someone dies because of another person’s error, that’s tragic. Kurt Cobain choosing to waste away on heroin and then shooting himself isn’t a tragedy, it’s weakness. Fuck Nirvana and fuck you, thank you for playing.
@Maggie sa Everybody has issues, including the people that Kurt was defecating on in interviews back in the early 90s for being "shallow". People didn't care about Kurt's mental health because he was an asshole, I was there back when Nirvana was big, saw Nirvana live in 1993 in D.C. on the In Utero tour, he was pretentious douche bag on stage and he was routinely screwing up his own songs. I'll rip on him and his stupid band to my heart's content.
Dejen en paz a Ingo, Kai fue solo su compañero y amigo, pero no un familiar. Si quieren defender a Kurt por la broma de mal gusto de Kai, no hay necesidad de mencionar a Ingo.
Now, according to South Park, it takes officially 22.3 years until something tragic becomes finally funny. So Kurt's death could be mocked and made fun of by mid-2016. I think this interview is before 2016, so Kurt broke the rules, you gotta wait man.
This interview was back in 2007 or 2008, so yeah, Kai broke the South Park rule. Then again, I was making jokes about it a few months after it happened (got into a couple fights over it back in the day), so there is that. lol
Even if i like nirvana (a little accually but anyway), the Great Kai Hansen said the truth! Even though it wasnt kurts fault hahaha... He was just too mainstream
not by choice! he was just in a band that became the biggest band in the world but up until then he was happy playing in the underground scene. Read a book!
shazza He signed to Geffen Records jackass, if he didn’t want fame he should have avoided the major labels. And he freely chose to shit on the entire music scene. I don’t need to read a book, I was there, I saw how the scene changed, and I caught Nirvana live in 1993, worst fucking concert I’be ever seen by arguably the worst band in history.
@@hellsunicorn Bullshit. Nirvana blew up because poor kids in the early 90s could relate to them. Kids in Kentucky in the early 90s weren't trying to watch assholes in platform shoes and make up looking like girls.
@Maggie sa You're so very idiottic and ironic, the Grunge thing didn’t last all that long, and certainly isn’t very relevant in todays music. So yeah time can't kill Metal unlike Grunge Lol!
when I was young... appeared Kurt Cobain and for us looks like posser , and for sure he and Nirvana destroy the idea of real typical,old school , adn honest heavy metal. It was 25 years ago, may .. Kai you are right .!
I don't know about anyone else but i don't think there is any class in making light of a suicide or some other tragic death, whether you liked that person and their music or not. Fortunately all these metal bands that suffered through the '90s are bigger and better than ever now.
I found it ironic as well since Halloween's drummer jumped in front of a train. I don't see anyone in the comments saying good riddance on that. Musical taste is completely subjective. Listen to what you like but don't be an asshole about it.
@@shannonlucas2980 Nobody is saying good riddance to Ingo Schwichtenberg because he wasn’t a pretentious douche bag who would constantly insult and slander other musicians every time somebody gave him a microphone like Kurt did. Kai’s little joke may have been distasteful, but one of the downsides of being an a**hole is that people will tend to not like you. You’ll notice that nobody ever makes jokes about Layne Staley’s or Andrew Wood’s deaths, so this isn’t just a grunge thing.
Indeed, Metal is flourishing in much of the world and has been experiencing a gradual rebound in North America. Grunge had maybe a 4 year run before it morphed into a commercialized joke.
@@hellsunicorn you cannot compare chocolate and shit ......they are both brown but are different .........thats the difference between metal and grunge in my personal opinion.3500 cds in my collection .......no grunge included.
Grunge wasn’t even a real genre. Nirvana were punk rock + 80s American Indy rock. Pearl Jam were classic rock/blues. Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were metal.
Same here, Kai was clearly making a joke, and people can be offended at it being a bit tasteless, but it reflects an obvious truth that certain people can't seem to grapple with. Regardless of what other bands from the Seattle scene were doing or were trying to say, Kurt made a point of regularly antagonizing other musicians, and it wasn't just the hair bands. Besides, glam rock was in a state of decline since 1987, a few bands like Poison were keeping it going into the late 80s, but most of the original heavy hitters like Motley Crue and WASP had already abandoned the glam aesthetic for something very different, as can be seen in Headless Children and Dr. Feelgood. Hell, even Poison dropped the teased hair look by 1990. By 1988, thrash metal and a heavier version of rock influenced by Guns 'N' Roses was the ascendant scene, and that's pretty much what ended up getting killed by Grunge.
@@hellsunicorn Kurt and Nirvana were the perfect storm of something very original and new with simple and very good melodies and lyrics. Metal needed that to start to get back to being original in its own right. I think Nirvana was a great band just look at there impact and how many bands tried to immolate them.
They're kidding because the trade off was a full scene that was halted or "killed " by the media and seemed to never truly recover because of Grunge/Alternative... he who's coming from the 80's is asking wtf happened suddenly no one pay attention to metal... of course 90's was good from an underground perspective, many epic albums where released during that decade, not saying grunge bands didn't deserve a spot but there were hundreds of bands doing quite better stuff out there...
if you knew anything about the topic, kurt didnt give a fuck about being famous. He didn't exploit underground music, it was all the media. but dude either way he should have the decency to not speak about his death like that its fucked up.
I'm pretty sure that Kai made that remark half jokingly, the same with the interviewer suggesting that Courtney Love shoot herself. Having said that, Kai was there when Grunge basically took a massive shit on the entire music scene and he was struggling to keep Gamma Ray relevant back in the mid-90s as that crap was starting to seep its way into Europe. Honestly, if it wasn't for albums like Land Of The Free, Black Hand Inn, The Reaper, Imaginations From The Other Side and Time Of The Oath, metal might have died in western Europe along with the U.K. and North America.
@@metalstorm7506 All of my favorite 2nd wave power metal albums came out between ‘94 and 2000, it was an exciting time, especially for an American like me who was so disaffected with my country’s music scene. I didn’t go to many concerts in those days, but I happily paid the additional importation costs to keep my car stereo supplied. lol
@@hellsunicorn I don’t want to sound like a bigot or anything but seeing an American fan of the European scene replenishes my faith, because my impression was that the US audience with all its grunges, alternatives, nu-metals and Panteras, is allergic to the decent taste. It’s not that the US lacks good bands, but they are not in the vanilla spotlight. Cheers, stay heavy and stay safe !
@@metalstorm7506 No problem, I share your view of America's music scene from the mid-90s up until now. During the early 2000s I was so into the Euro power metal scene that I managed to recruit a couple of university friends and formed a band. We weren't able to record and release anything until this year, but please feel free to check us out. open.spotify.com/artist/3n4XigyqbnLCZkRW1GewEq th-cam.com/channels/-DyQnySNVwE-iUQkpHOP9g.html facebook.com/OminousGlory
Now MTV has nothing to do with music. It the ridiculous channel . If I was a millionaire or richer I'd start a station and bring back music videos and head bangers ball
es como esa canción de kiske y weikath "heavy metal hamsters" que expone lo que era la escena heavy de aquel entonces, contratos 360 que implica que no hay artistas sino productos artísticos, donde la formula es para vender y nada más, ese tipo de bandas ocuparon los mass media y obligaron a que las bandas "reales" tuvieran que adaptarse a esas formulas, a demorar la salida de sus discos porque no era el momento comercial, por ejemplo el keepers original fue concebido como un disco doble pero lo editaron en dos partes, es como si kai tuviera miedo de hablar de productores o sellos discograficos y termina tirando acido a un genio como kurt cobain, no hace falta me parece
Cobain fue un cenutrio, pero considero que más culpa tiene el lelazo que le dio demasiado poder (MTV, revistas, etc). Nirvana es un producto de la estupidez norteamericana. ¿Llamar "genio" a un tipo que en varios conciertos salía drogado y gritaba como burro? Concierto en Brazil es el mejor ejemplo. Ya recuerdo que muchos de sus fanáticos salen con cosas como " iz ki yu sui izpisial y nu li intiendis". 🙄 Lo peor es que varios se ríen de Yoko Ono cuando ese asno de Cobain lo hace peor. Al menos si tuviesen los huevos bien puestos de decir que fueron malos conciertos se les pasaría, pero intentan justificar algo que no se puede, y claro, van a esconderse en los gustos.
blaming a musician for the greed of capitalism is naive. At the end, Kurt ended up being a victim while others enriched themselves thanks to his music.
Nirvana didn’t destroy heavy metal. Metal is still alive. Young people are into whatever is promoted by the media at the time. It’s just what they are exposed to. 90s was grunge, 2000s was nu metal, 2010s is metal core. Forget about what the kids are listening to. If you want to listen to good music then search it out. There are hundreds of bands who aren’t being promoted through the regular channels. Check out the NWOTHM scene. It’s like being transported right back to the 80s. Never say new music is shit. You’re just too lazy to look for good new music.
debashish kachari Bull-fucking-shit!!! Kai is a massive influence across Europe, he will be remembered long after he is gone. Fuck off back to you basement Grunge boy.
but I do not think Kurt has destroyed or he tried to destroy heavy metal, look at that time, heavy metal in that time stagnated, I've lived this time and I know what I'm talking about.
@@barrybolder7810 It's not fans of grunge who claim Kurt killed metal. Metal was alive, well, and selling throughout the grunge era. It's metalheads who forget that most good metal in the 80s was underground. Nothing about that changed in the 90s---we just lost the poofy-hair garbage pop metal.
It wasn't Nirvana by themselves, it was a combination of Kurt Cobain's "cult persona", fueled by the entertainment media, and the recording industry. There was a concerted effort to kill off the entire metal scene and replace it with something that was dumber, simpler, and easier to produce. If you compare what album production values were like in the 1989-1991 period, it was a whole different ballgame than the underproduced, noise-driven garbage that began springing up in the mid-1990s in the American rock scene. Compare the production of an album like W.A.S.P.'s The Headless Children vs. something by The Breeders or Helium, or even Nirvana's In Utero. Producing the low-fi rubbish that the latter 3 albums had involves almost no post-production work, whereas getting a crisp, clear punch the way a lot of late 80s metal albums had took a high degree of skill and resources. Economics was definitely a factor in the changeover, and it was sold as having greater credibility precisely because it was cheap and easy to produce. It's a classic case of a snake oil salesman bilking his customers, nothing more.
Pantera ,sepultura,metallica,testament and anthtrax killed everything ....but at that time there was no social media.... from mexico to the Patagonia...metal did Not die
i dont dislike kurt, but he did destroy metal as i knew it, it took me years to learn to play guitar well , and over night it was all for nothing, he could barely tune the fuckin thing, and made millions, he destroyed the need to perfect the craft
yeah...before kurt, kids dream to be a good musician to become famous. Its like "i have to be better and better..". After Kurt came, kids are just like "Fuck those solos, Fuck those double bass drumming..boring crap!! Scales are lame. Just play whatever your heart telling u to play." (actually the 'let the heart' thing is good but when a kid never practice or learn properly, his heart only will tell things that he know at that time..crapp..). Ps* I think Kurt is not the guy.. Sonic Youth is the one..they started the crappy playing long before Nirvana came to mainstream. Followed by Kurt and then the whitestripe.
I really hate grunge, but please stop blame it for the death of the metal in the U.S. Kai if you are looking for someone to blame just look for the greedy record companies that cloned every successful act from Bon Jovi to Helloween including Whitesnake, Van Halen and Motley.
The "Seattle Scene" didn't kill Metal, Metal killed itself. It's become stagnant. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some Metal, but putting the blame of Metal becoming diluted and phased out on 1 individual is a pretty lame excuse. We're in a weird limbo with music at this present time, but Metal had its expiration date just like any other genre.
Well, the thing is, Nirvana's fans are the ones who continually claim credit for killing metal. You should probably talk to them instead of us, we're here to enjoy the music we love and occasionally get a kick out of a joke at the expense of one of music's biggest hacks (Cobain).
@debashish kachari The pop sound of the 90s was far worse than the 80s. Take a listen to Word Up by Cameo and compare it to anything that Boys To Men or The Backstreet Boys put out. Furthermore, Nirvana's so-called grunge revolution also destroyed the market for thrash metal, and this is occasionally bragged about by their fans too.
@@andrewmcintosh2703 Oh it wasn’t just hair metal, I got the business from Nirvana fans all the time in high school for listening to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. They’d go after you for liking Megadeth as well. They might just rip on the glam stuff today, but back in the 90s they would rip on anything that Cobain didn’t openly approve of.
@@hellsunicorn You've got to be joking. During the whole grunge era, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, Sepultura, Pantera, and plenty of other bands were hot commodities (Slayer even got an album into the top 10). We're talking an era when even death metal bands were on major labels and making music videos. 1992 was the year I got into both Nirvana and metal, and most Nirvana fans I knew were also into some sort of metal. I never met a Nirvana fab who slavishly would "rip on anything that Cobain didn't openly approve of" -- case in point, nearly every Nirvana fan I knew was also into Guns 'N' Roses, the band that Cobain most openly disapproved of. The first time I ever heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was on a mix tape someone brought to Art class with a bunch of Guns 'N' Roses songs on it, so I actually thought it was a new G'N'R song (unbelievable but true). Cobain also shat all over Pearl Jam, and it didn't seem to slow their momentum in the slightest.
Kai and many other 80's metal bands are still around touring the globe to sold out venues filled with tens of thousands of fans while grunge has been dead for ages save for Pearl Jam & Alice In Chains (They died when Layne did imo). And for Nirvana most of the 'fans' they had only liked them because it was the pop music of the mid 90's. Metal may have lost it's glory days of the 80's but in the long run metal will always prevail! \m/
AiC isn’t really a Grunge band though lol. They’re considered Grunge just because they came out around the same time as Nirvana started to get bigger but they are more Metal than Grunge.
Joshua Ibarra you’re not wrong in saying Alice In Chains isn’t Grunge, but they all broke around the world and were introduced at the same time..Just as Pantera were a “80’s metal band” just marketed different after the fact, Alice In Chains sorta the same deal. Out of all the big “90’s Grunge” bands the band that made noise the most before Grunge was even a genre would have been Sound Garden I do believe
'80s metal musicians and especially fans think that for a music to be "alive" it has to be on top of the charts, what a load of bullshit. Most of these guys were still millions of records during the whole "alternative rock" years, fewer millons of records than before that's for sure, but still millions of records. Who cares. I prefer the music I'm into to be underground anyway.
It wasnt Kurt’s intention to destroy anything. Kurt’s only intention was to play punk rock music. The world kinda came to him. Metal heads need to chill.
inutero10 Bullshit, he openly talked about destroying what he dubbed “fake” rock, and shat on nearly everybody who made music prior to 1990. He signed to a major label, he went to the world, get it straight.
@@hellsunicorn a mediocre genre like grunge is dead....metal still reigns in the world of good music.....kurt cobain was a man without balls....who took away his life when he reached his peak.
@Maggie sa No it didn't dopey, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden were releasing their best material during the late 80s and early 90s, and there was plenty of exciting thrash metal going on that was way better than Metallica's derivative, corporatized garbage. If you want to mouth off about metal, know what you're talking about, idiot.
@@inutero10 Fair enough, I was looking for good music, and Kurt's political ramblings and constant casting of aspersions at everyone else (which was amplified by the entertainment media of the day) made it more difficult to find it.
I don't think nirvana really destroyed metal. I dont even think metal has been destroyed. Just in sort of a crossroads between its older glorydays and hopefully new days of glory will arise like europe in the middle ages. 70s and 80s were like ancient Greece and Rome next is hopefully a new colonial spain, england and france, Kurts music might have made the more punk ish stuff popular compared to metal but metal was still doing good until probably when Dimebag died.
Metal, in the abstract, was never destroyed, in fact it flourished in much of Europe throughout the 90s. However, as a commercially viable art form in North American, Grunge basically sucked up all the oxygen. Furthermore, Dimebag Darrel gets way too much credit simply because Pantera was one of the few American metal acts to still sell well in America, not to mention Pantera hadn't done shit for years and Dimebag's newer band Damageplan was scraping the bottom of the nu-metal barrel.
Bullshit. We just weren't trying to watch assholes in makeup and platform shoes back then. We could relate to the guys in Nirvana and the music was hard af for the time.
@@kingebeneezer7986 Helloween, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest never wore makeup, nor did most of the NWOBHM. Grunge was a disease, as are the people who pushed it on the rest of us back then.
unfortunately for kai hansen , kurt kobain was a huge maiden and priest fan , grunge didn' t kill metal " bleach " and " nevermind " were fucking metal in sound but punk in attitude and lyrics , and no he shouldn't have killed himself earlier ...
Grunge did not kill heavy metal, ProTwells / AmateurTools did (aka ProTools). Once they started sampling, triggering, automating, manipulating, over-processing, loudness-maximizing and hyper-compressing the living hell out of the music, that is when the genre died for me. Metal bands caused their own downfall by commercializing their sound, lowering the quality of their music and running out of creativity.
cheers, I have very similar opinion ... never cared about genres like grunge, nu-nu-metal etc. ... but why should I insult them for the fact (i.h.h.o) that metal went down after 80's
permaveg no. Kurt hated most punk bands. And they thought of them selfs as new wave or grunge. pretty much nobody thinks there a metal band. There a grunge band looks it up people
Hahaha drop a comment when youve heard kurt hit a fucking high note like Sebastian Bach or Jack Russell! Fucking depressed 14 year old girl, yeah thats what you are!
Eh, Metallica didn’t help, but overall I’d say Nirvana, and more specifically the Grunge promotion machine pushed by the labels and the media tried, and ultimately failed to kill metal.
My god. Grunge was full of snobish bullshit. That crying and depressing music genre is dead and buried since 1996. The only thing that killed grunge was his own heroes Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Chris Cornell.
There were plenty of heavier rock and metal acts that were negatively impacted by the grunge craze, and Gamma Ray was one of them. Albums like Black Hand Inn and Land Of The Free were basically the underground resistance at the time against the tide of grunge imitators seeping into Europe. Furthermore, glam was on its way out a couple years before anybody knew about Nirvana outside of Seattle. Thrash was supplanting it in the late 80s, and you’ll note that thrash took a nosedive beginning in 1992 thanks the Kurt.
Nirvana killing metal is bullshit alice in chains was metal and popular soundgarden was a bit metal and was popular the melvins got signed to a major label and were semi popular nirvana said they liked celtic frost and black sabbath also they covered unleashed bleach was a kinda sludge metal scentless apprentice was kinda metal pantera had a number 1 album in march 1994 ozzy and metillica had huge albums in 1991 and invited nirvana to tour with them so did gnr just because that glam shit and power metal shit was not popular doesnt mean that metal got killed thats stupid
First time i saw Smells like teen spirit video clip in 1991 i said wtf is this crap? Next day it became famous and people kept talking about Nirvana and then come Pearl jam. Sound garden, talking about metal bands is not cool anymore.
Nirvana had nothing to do with the metal scene. There are 2 completly different things. And also metal community is very close minded and it only destroys itself not by the other music scenes. I don't say that all metalheads are like that but a good part of it yes.
I like helloween man, but times change. The US is always more trend driven, metal has always been popular in Europe, especially traditional metal. Blaming Kurt cobain is just dumb and irrelevant, helloween would have never been commercially successful in the US regardless.
"helloween would have never been commercially successful in the US regardless." That isn't true. Helloween was so succesfull in the late 80's even in the U.S. that MTV presented tours for them in 1987 and 1989!
Stupid suicide joke is stupid. Besides-blaming it all on Nirvana is to be ignorant of all the factors involved back then. Hair bands and metal were played out. Where else could they go? Malmsteen played before millions in Russia. The genre had peaked and was bound to be replaced by something different. That's just how it goes. Rock and roll had forty years of popularity. Most of what it was saying just wasn't as relevant anymore. It was time for other genres to step into the mainstream. Besides-I thought music was all about the message and not about the money? If you're a good band you can still tour and earn a living making music. You just won't get rich doing it.
Heavy metal is still alive and well and grunge is dead. I did love Mother love bone and Alice in chains though. It died a fast death too. They were all hooked on heroin in a rainy city no wonder they were depressed.
Nirvana's Bleach still is a seriously heavy punk/metal record. The old school dinosaur metal bands on MTV at the time simply couldn't compete with Nirvana's soaring melodies
If you were like 18 years of age in 1990, you could actually feel the changes. Thrash was at its peak and death and and a few black metal bands was on the rise. Very interesting good times. Heavy metal and hard rock was pretty much uninteresting by then.
Nor with the Dragon Balls. 🤣🤣🤣 I remember when I saw Kurt's solos and screams like a donkey in Brazil. 😂😂😂 Cobain is only a U.S.american product who showed the stupidity in that nation.
Man this guy needs to be more self-aware. 80's heavy metal died because it became fucking repetitive, cookie cutter and vanilla by the end of the decade. Nirvana wasn't complex or difficult to play, but at least it felt genuine and honest. Blaming the death of hair metal on Kurt Cobain is stupid beyond belief.
Yeah dude, Kurt was being really genuine and honest writing a song where he repeatedly swore he didn't have a gun...oops, total fucking lie when April of 1994 rolled around. lol
Kai has only said like 4 words ever. Always so quiet, mysterious even. He’s been in all these bands, produced others, and nobody knows it. So for him to sit down and say this means it’s true!
@Maggie sa what?
Bands like Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, Edguy, Avantasia, Primal Fear, are just the tip of the iceberg that came from that root that is Helloween. Got a whole cd/lp section that was followed by a load of other bands that Kai did either support directly or had an massiv influenence on (my collection is sorted in a very crazy way😜 - and in this case nearly 2500 cds are in that Helloween section that got a direct or indirect connection to Kai Hansen). Since nearly 4 decades this man has an massive impact on the music scene, what an artist and such a nice grounded, sympathic and funny guy.
I didn't know Tarantino did interviews
Yeah, he actually enjoys doing these occasionally
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LOL he sounds like Tarantino 😂
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Kurt killed metal scene then he shot himself and also took grunge to his grave with him. he killed two genres in less than a decade lol. but glad heavy metal survived and grew stronger than ever
he didn't he probably just killed Glam scene. I don't think he did it on purpose though.
@@GurneroMaelstrom actually he didn’t start the grunge scene nor Nirvana. There was grunge back in the early 80s.
@@OriginalKingRichTv why did you mention me? I never said he started anything, Learn to reply properly
@@OriginalKingRichTv idiot
both of you shut up
Kai is the genius in metal music.
As his Skyfall single on Helloween 2021 also proves.
This is the best and truest comment here. You are are a true metalhead my brother🤘😁🤘
He and Dave Mustaine are the best metal frontmen imo
This is why I named one of my cats after him.
Kai Hansen listens to DragonForce. My happiness level is beyond comprehension. Or should I say, compre-Hansen.
DragonForceCzar dragon force blows
DragonForceCzar Aside from the shit pun, yeah. Their new album is fucking amazing. Kind of surprising the death cover.
Dragonforce would never be around if it weren't for Hansen. Somewhere Out In Space is the template for Dragonforce
TheMadMattster no walls of Jericho and keeper 1&2 are the template for dragon force😎
Fuck DragonForce, they are boring as hell!
No World Order was a masterpiece.
I can't remember when I clicked on a video this quickly
Kind of messed up when you consider his former Helloween band mate Ingo Schwichtenberg committed suicide too.
Metal never actually died, it was just dormant for a while in the mid 90's but it came back and made a full recovery..
If you look at Germany and Sweden, metal was doing fairly well in the mid-90s. Some of Gamma Ray, Grave Digger and Running Wild’s best albums came out between ‘94 and ‘97, and younger bands at the time like Nocturnal Rites and Hammerfall made some major waves then too.
In Europe the scene was quite vital and active, actually:
Germany - Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iron Savior, Running Wild, Primal Fear, Grave Digger, Rage, UDO, Blind Guardian, just to name a few,
Sweden - Hammerfall, ( they were a great factor to reignite interest in classic metal and put it back on the mainstream), Lost Horizon, Yngwie Malmsteen, was very prolific as well,
Finland - Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius,
Italy - Rhapsody of Fire, Lacuna Coil ( yeah, not quite metal, but definitely they have a lot of elements from it )
France - Heavenly
Let’s not forget the British legends Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motörhead and Saxon that were active as well
Mind that these are just from the realm of the traditional heavy/power metal.
I’m not mentioning the darker and heavier things like Children of Bodom, In Flames, Amorphis, Arch Enemy, the more approachable black metal bands like Immortal, Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Amon Amarth ( yes, they were a thing more than a decade before “Twilight of the thunder god” and were a bit heavier )
On top of this, South America had amazing bands as well, like Angra.
My point was, that I agree that metal never died, but I disagree with the statement that it was dormant. Basically it only was like that in the US, because American audience got distracted by the retarded idiocies like grunge, alternative, nu “metal” and Pantera wannabes… Pantera sucked balls to begin with
@@hellsunicorn pantera never sucked. Your out of your mind. Pantera was bad ass. They were a kick ass metal machine.
@@jamiethompson1008 theyre gods of metal lol, one of the 5 greatest
@@metalstorm7506 idiocy runs in your family
Don't worry mr. Hansen, the true defenders of metal have kept the flame alive this whole time and it will keep burning no matter what clowns or fads they throw at us.
Disciple0fMetal most metal music is fucking wank
@@Heckmesideways The majority of anything is crap. You have to wade through the muck and stick with the good stuff.
Kai is a good guy; :)
Yeah he’s joking about Kurt who went through his whole life of mental health issues saying he should’ve killed himself sooner. What a great guy
@@mihir702 Kurt was sick but also an asshole. Everyone knows this.
@@celioazevedoofficial I consider Kurt to be a true American hero. He fought tirelessly to change the misogynistic and homophobic views within rock music. The Seattle grunge bands were so much more open about their own vulnerability and mental health struggles compared to these heavy metal toxic masculinity driving assholes
@@mihir702 Well, so America sucks. lol
@@mihir702 this pseudo-fight against homophoby and misoginy is the problem itself today , denying truths and dividing people in groups while stablishing rules baseds on lies, Kurt was an asshole
also many many bands like Angel Witch,Satan,Diamond Head which Metallica were their biggest fans btw did so many covers on their songs NWOBHM was something unique and I'm happy Hansen realises this ,long live Hansen and the NWOBHM followers
He plays rythm guitars.
He soloes.
He sings.
Anyone else?
Dave Mustaine
James Hetfield
@@jimch.9961 Hetfield barely plays the solos though. It's mainly Hammett
@@JackalTheMasked doesn't matter. He soloes. He sings. He is the rythm guitarist.
Billy Corgan
Aguante HELLOWEEN, UNISONIC, y GAMMA RAY!!! Kai hansen, uno de los mejores guitarristas del power metal! 🤘♥️
The Great Truth from the Great Kai
I want to know what he thinks of demons and wizards or blind guardian.
Fans destroyed metal by stopping to support it in the early 1990s.
I disagree strongly.
Kurt Cobain didn't kill anyone, it was media, people (that at the time, wanna listen something different and, do stupid shit fight about music) and record labels that kill music.
Yes,you're right,but Kobain was the "poster child" of that different shit, so in people minds he's to blame.
@@mariussantamarian9766 Big music companies just need to produce "models", I guess. I'm sure Cobain started just as a music lover obviously but in the end he was (still is) just marketed as a worldwide grunge icon, like a product, like a slave of the system. Probably way too much for him to handle for his character, not all can stand it.
I'm not a big fan of the grunge-scene. However, I don't think that grunge as a genre was the problem. The problem was what grunge brought with it! The values and the preferences within the grunge-scene, I absolutely despise those...
I don´t understand this hatred of metalheads against Nirvana and bands like them, I am a metalhead myself but I fucking love Nirvana, dude I mean this band put me in this world of rock n roll
The trend of grunge/alternative music, canceled the contracts of many metal musicians and killed much of the income for metal artists, shuted down the stream/production of the music we loved back then or put it four or five rows behind on the radio/tv playlists for more than a decade.
Kurt Cobain basically created the rift with his mouth and his attitude. Several metal bands wanted to tour with Nirvana and Kurt’s r*tarded punk rock ideology basically alienated the two scenes. By way of contrast, Alice In Chains regularly toured with metal bands in the early 90s and never really attacked the older scene.
Enjoy whatever music you like, but this division was created long ago and still endures.
You spoke of grunge fans abouth metal bands? For this reason don t Mike grunge to metalheads
@@hellsunicornI always felt Alice in Chains were more metal and so was mother love bone.
he did not piss on him, just making and ironical and funny joke, relax guys xD
Let's make some funny jokes about one of your dear friends or family members who died tragically and then let me know how fun it is. This guy is a loser.
PaleBlueDot He's doing better than you.
PaleBlueDot Suicide isn’t tragic cry-baby. Car accidents where someone dies because of another person’s error, that’s tragic. Kurt Cobain choosing to waste away on heroin and then shooting himself isn’t a tragedy, it’s weakness. Fuck Nirvana and fuck you, thank you for playing.
@@sicknessmusik you're the only loser follow your kurt lameass steps
@Maggie sa Everybody has issues, including the people that Kurt was defecating on in interviews back in the early 90s for being "shallow". People didn't care about Kurt's mental health because he was an asshole, I was there back when Nirvana was big, saw Nirvana live in 1993 in D.C. on the In Utero tour, he was pretentious douche bag on stage and he was routinely screwing up his own songs. I'll rip on him and his stupid band to my heart's content.
Dejen en paz a Ingo, Kai fue solo su compañero y amigo, pero no un familiar. Si quieren defender a Kurt por la broma de mal gusto de Kai, no hay necesidad de mencionar a Ingo.
Now, according to South Park, it takes officially 22.3 years until something tragic becomes finally funny. So Kurt's death could be mocked and made fun of by mid-2016. I think this interview is before 2016, so Kurt broke the rules, you gotta wait man.
This interview was back in 2007 or 2008, so yeah, Kai broke the South Park rule. Then again, I was making jokes about it a few months after it happened (got into a couple fights over it back in the day), so there is that. lol
Even if i like nirvana (a little accually but anyway), the Great Kai Hansen said the truth! Even though it wasnt kurts fault hahaha... He was just too mainstream
not by choice! he was just in a band that became the biggest band in the world but up until then he was happy playing in the underground scene. Read a book!
shazza He signed to Geffen Records jackass, if he didn’t want fame he should have avoided the major labels. And he freely chose to shit on the entire music scene. I don’t need to read a book, I was there, I saw how the scene changed, and I caught Nirvana live in 1993, worst fucking concert I’be ever seen by arguably the worst band in history.
@@hellsunicorn Bullshit. Nirvana blew up because poor kids in the early 90s could relate to them. Kids in Kentucky in the early 90s weren't trying to watch assholes in platform shoes and make up looking like girls.
He was too 1) fucked up in the head and 2) stoned all the f time
I say he can barely stand accused of his own actions >.
@Maggie sa You're so very idiottic and ironic, the Grunge thing didn’t last all that long, and certainly isn’t very relevant in todays music. So yeah time can't kill Metal unlike Grunge Lol!
Great Kai Hansen great interview
When was this?
Faure Swanepoel seems that it was in 2008
when I was young... appeared Kurt Cobain and for us looks like posser , and for sure he and Nirvana destroy the idea of real typical,old school , adn honest heavy metal. It was 25 years ago, may .. Kai you are right .!
fuck off you drop kick
Fuck heavy black metal
@@pipebombhs1412 lol nothing more pretensious than black metal. Fucking posers
I don't know about anyone else but i don't think there is any class in making light of a suicide or some other tragic death, whether you liked that person and their music or not. Fortunately all these metal bands that suffered through the '90s are bigger and better than ever now.
I found it ironic as well since Halloween's drummer jumped in front of a train. I don't see anyone in the comments saying good riddance on that. Musical taste is completely subjective. Listen to what you like but don't be an asshole about it.
rock is nearly dead. reggaeton and autotune killed rock and pop.
@@shannonlucas2980 Nobody is saying good riddance to Ingo Schwichtenberg because he wasn’t a pretentious douche bag who would constantly insult and slander other musicians every time somebody gave him a microphone like Kurt did. Kai’s little joke may have been distasteful, but one of the downsides of being an a**hole is that people will tend to not like you. You’ll notice that nobody ever makes jokes about Layne Staley’s or Andrew Wood’s deaths, so this isn’t just a grunge thing.
Kurt cobain and grunge...were just an eye blink....heavy metal is eternal....and will never die.
Indeed, Metal is flourishing in much of the world and has been experiencing a gradual rebound in North America. Grunge had maybe a 4 year run before it morphed into a commercialized joke.
@@hellsunicorn you cannot compare chocolate and shit ......they are both brown but are different .........thats the difference between metal and grunge in my personal opinion.3500 cds in my collection .......no grunge included.
@@toredurgali8374 cringe
@@Zentabes crunge
Grunge wasn’t even a real genre. Nirvana were punk rock + 80s American Indy rock.
Pearl Jam were classic rock/blues.
Alice in Chains and Soundgarden were metal.
Someone had to say it.
He didn't really say what the title suggests, it seemed more like a joke, a pun ors kinda like that. I still don't like Kurt Cobain though.
Same here, Kai was clearly making a joke, and people can be offended at it being a bit tasteless, but it reflects an obvious truth that certain people can't seem to grapple with. Regardless of what other bands from the Seattle scene were doing or were trying to say, Kurt made a point of regularly antagonizing other musicians, and it wasn't just the hair bands. Besides, glam rock was in a state of decline since 1987, a few bands like Poison were keeping it going into the late 80s, but most of the original heavy hitters like Motley Crue and WASP had already abandoned the glam aesthetic for something very different, as can be seen in Headless Children and Dr. Feelgood. Hell, even Poison dropped the teased hair look by 1990. By 1988, thrash metal and a heavier version of rock influenced by Guns 'N' Roses was the ascendant scene, and that's pretty much what ended up getting killed by Grunge.
@@hellsunicorn Kurt and Nirvana were the perfect storm of something very original and new with simple and very good melodies and lyrics. Metal needed that to start to get back to being original in its own right. I think Nirvana was a great band just look at there impact and how many bands tried to immolate them.
How's Kai Hansen?
Rehearsing with Helloween.
Thelittlepig Kai Hansen is the father of Kurt
Not a fan of Nirvana at all but that was disrespectful of him
Speaking the truth is disrespectful?
@@kevinrodriguez9701 joking about someones death like that and the other guy talking about his wife to shoot herself. Not disrespectful at... all...
They're kidding because the trade off was a full scene that was halted or "killed " by the media and seemed to never truly recover because of Grunge/Alternative... he who's coming from the 80's is asking wtf happened suddenly no one pay attention to metal... of course 90's was good from an underground perspective, many epic albums where released during that decade, not saying grunge bands didn't deserve a spot but there were hundreds of bands doing quite better stuff out there...
He shouldn't have done that.
Kurts.shoulders Kai said nothing but the truth!
i disagree strongly
Well, that's the truth
if you knew anything about the topic, kurt didnt give a fuck about being famous. He didn't exploit underground music, it was all the media. but dude either way he should have the decency to not speak about his death like that its fucked up.
He said he was joking relax
As much as I hate grunge and think Kurt was very overrated, It feels a bit weird to hear Kai said this. He's usually a very cool and positive guy.
I'm pretty sure that Kai made that remark half jokingly, the same with the interviewer suggesting that Courtney Love shoot herself. Having said that, Kai was there when Grunge basically took a massive shit on the entire music scene and he was struggling to keep Gamma Ray relevant back in the mid-90s as that crap was starting to seep its way into Europe. Honestly, if it wasn't for albums like Land Of The Free, Black Hand Inn, The Reaper, Imaginations From The Other Side and Time Of The Oath, metal might have died in western Europe along with the U.K. and North America.
@@hellsunicorn Absolutely agree, metal scene in Europe in the mid 90’s was quite strong
@@metalstorm7506 All of my favorite 2nd wave power metal albums came out between ‘94 and 2000, it was an exciting time, especially for an American like me who was so disaffected with my country’s music scene. I didn’t go to many concerts in those days, but I happily paid the additional importation costs to keep my car stereo supplied. lol
@@hellsunicorn I don’t want to sound like a bigot or anything but seeing an American fan of the European scene replenishes my faith, because my impression was that the US audience with all its grunges, alternatives, nu-metals and Panteras, is allergic to the decent taste. It’s not that the US lacks good bands, but they are not in the vanilla spotlight. Cheers, stay heavy and stay safe !
@@metalstorm7506 No problem, I share your view of America's music scene from the mid-90s up until now. During the early 2000s I was so into the Euro power metal scene that I managed to recruit a couple of university friends and formed a band. We weren't able to record and release anything until this year, but please feel free to check us out.
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grunge didn't destroy metal MTV did it. They just decided that metal is over and that grunge is the new thing.
But MTV also MADE Heavy Metal... Those Hai/Glam Metal L.A. bands
Now MTV has nothing to do with music. It the ridiculous channel . If I was a millionaire or richer I'd start a station and bring back music videos and head bangers ball
Perfect!!
es como esa canción de kiske y weikath "heavy metal hamsters" que expone lo que era la escena heavy de aquel entonces, contratos 360 que implica que no hay artistas sino productos artísticos, donde la formula es para vender y nada más, ese tipo de bandas ocuparon los mass media y obligaron a que las bandas "reales" tuvieran que adaptarse a esas formulas, a demorar la salida de sus discos porque no era el momento comercial, por ejemplo el keepers original fue concebido como un disco doble pero lo editaron en dos partes, es como si kai tuviera miedo de hablar de productores o sellos discograficos y termina tirando acido a un genio como kurt cobain, no hace falta me parece
Cobain fue un cenutrio, pero considero que más culpa tiene el lelazo que le dio demasiado poder (MTV, revistas, etc).
Nirvana es un producto de la estupidez norteamericana. ¿Llamar "genio" a un tipo que en varios conciertos salía drogado y gritaba como burro? Concierto en Brazil es el mejor ejemplo.
Ya recuerdo que muchos de sus fanáticos salen con cosas como " iz ki yu sui izpisial y nu li intiendis". 🙄
Lo peor es que varios se ríen de Yoko Ono cuando ese asno de Cobain lo hace peor.
Al menos si tuviesen los huevos bien puestos de decir que fueron malos conciertos se les pasaría, pero intentan justificar algo que no se puede, y claro, van a esconderse en los gustos.
blaming a musician for the greed of capitalism is naive. At the end, Kurt ended up being a victim while others enriched themselves thanks to his music.
Nirvana didn’t destroy heavy metal. Metal is still alive. Young people are into whatever is promoted by the media at the time. It’s just what they are exposed to. 90s was grunge, 2000s was nu metal, 2010s is metal core. Forget about what the kids are listening to. If you want to listen to good music then search it out. There are hundreds of bands who aren’t being promoted through the regular channels. Check out the NWOTHM scene. It’s like being transported right back to the 80s. Never say new music is shit. You’re just too lazy to look for good new music.
Kurt's gone, grunge was a fad that faded out. Kai is still here and metal is still here. Metal forever.
Amen!
John V yes
Cobain was a punk rocker not a grunge rocker.
debashish kachari Bull-fucking-shit!!! Kai is a massive influence across Europe, he will be remembered long after he is gone. Fuck off back to you basement Grunge boy.
but I do not think Kurt has destroyed or he tried to destroy heavy metal, look at that time, heavy metal in that time stagnated, I've lived this time and I know what I'm talking about.
No it didn't stagnate. That's bogus revisionism peddled by the media and fans of grunge. There was tons of great metal around when Grunge hit.
@@barrybolder7810 It's not fans of grunge who claim Kurt killed metal. Metal was alive, well, and selling throughout the grunge era. It's metalheads who forget that most good metal in the 80s was underground. Nothing about that changed in the 90s---we just lost the poofy-hair garbage pop metal.
I exactly said the same in 1993 what Kai said: 2:01
I don’t get it, in which sense did Nirvana destroy heavy metal?
It wasn't Nirvana by themselves, it was a combination of Kurt Cobain's "cult persona", fueled by the entertainment media, and the recording industry. There was a concerted effort to kill off the entire metal scene and replace it with something that was dumber, simpler, and easier to produce. If you compare what album production values were like in the 1989-1991 period, it was a whole different ballgame than the underproduced, noise-driven garbage that began springing up in the mid-1990s in the American rock scene. Compare the production of an album like W.A.S.P.'s The Headless Children vs. something by The Breeders or Helium, or even Nirvana's In Utero. Producing the low-fi rubbish that the latter 3 albums had involves almost no post-production work, whereas getting a crisp, clear punch the way a lot of late 80s metal albums had took a high degree of skill and resources. Economics was definitely a factor in the changeover, and it was sold as having greater credibility precisely because it was cheap and easy to produce. It's a classic case of a snake oil salesman bilking his customers, nothing more.
Yeah Kurt Cobain destroy 90s Anthrax
Pantera ,sepultura,metallica,testament and anthtrax killed everything ....but at that time there was no social media.... from mexico to the Patagonia...metal did Not die
How did they kill metal. They carried metal in the 90s
you should have done it earlier man :D
THis interview is from 2008 I think? Or maybe earlier.
It was during the tour for Land Of The Free Pt. 2, so either late in 2007 or in 2008.
the god has spoken!
Exactly
\m/
i dont dislike kurt, but he did destroy metal as i knew it, it took me years to learn to play guitar well , and over night it was all for nothing, he could barely tune the fuckin thing, and made millions, he destroyed the need to perfect the craft
So true and he divided rock.
The damage was terrible.
I'm happy that Kurt Cobain destroyed only Kurt Cobain
R.I.P Kurt....
yeah...before kurt, kids dream to be a good musician to become famous. Its like "i have to be better and better..". After Kurt came, kids are just like "Fuck those solos, Fuck those double bass drumming..boring crap!! Scales are lame. Just play whatever your heart telling u to play." (actually the 'let the heart' thing is good but when a kid never practice or learn properly, his heart only will tell things that he know at that time..crapp..). Ps* I think Kurt is not the guy.. Sonic Youth is the one..they started the crappy playing long before Nirvana came to mainstream. Followed by Kurt and then the whitestripe.
I really hate grunge, but please stop blame it for the death of the metal in the U.S. Kai if you are looking for someone to blame just look for the greedy record companies that cloned every successful act from Bon Jovi to Helloween including Whitesnake, Van Halen and Motley.
It was that but grunge is at fault as well as the record company
This video is really based.
God has spoken :v
Retard...
The "Seattle Scene" didn't kill Metal, Metal killed itself. It's become stagnant. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some Metal, but putting the blame of Metal becoming diluted and phased out on 1 individual is a pretty lame excuse. We're in a weird limbo with music at this present time, but Metal had its expiration date just like any other genre.
Well, the thing is, Nirvana's fans are the ones who continually claim credit for killing metal. You should probably talk to them instead of us, we're here to enjoy the music we love and occasionally get a kick out of a joke at the expense of one of music's biggest hacks (Cobain).
@debashish kachari The pop sound of the 90s was far worse than the 80s. Take a listen to Word Up by Cameo and compare it to anything that Boys To Men or The Backstreet Boys put out. Furthermore, Nirvana's so-called grunge revolution also destroyed the market for thrash metal, and this is occasionally bragged about by their fans too.
@@hellsunicorn Nirvana fans go on about Nirvana killing *hair metal*, not *metal*.
@@andrewmcintosh2703 Oh it wasn’t just hair metal, I got the business from Nirvana fans all the time in high school for listening to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. They’d go after you for liking Megadeth as well. They might just rip on the glam stuff today, but back in the 90s they would rip on anything that Cobain didn’t openly approve of.
@@hellsunicorn You've got to be joking. During the whole grunge era, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, Sepultura, Pantera, and plenty of other bands were hot commodities (Slayer even got an album into the top 10). We're talking an era when even death metal bands were on major labels and making music videos. 1992 was the year I got into both Nirvana and metal, and most Nirvana fans I knew were also into some sort of metal. I never met a Nirvana fab who slavishly would "rip on anything that Cobain didn't openly approve of" -- case in point, nearly every Nirvana fan I knew was also into Guns 'N' Roses, the band that Cobain most openly disapproved of. The first time I ever heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was on a mix tape someone brought to Art class with a bunch of Guns 'N' Roses songs on it, so I actually thought it was a new G'N'R song (unbelievable but true). Cobain also shat all over Pearl Jam, and it didn't seem to slow their momentum in the slightest.
Kai and many other 80's metal bands are still around touring the globe to sold out venues filled with tens of thousands of fans while grunge has been dead for ages save for Pearl Jam & Alice In Chains (They died when Layne did imo).
And for Nirvana most of the 'fans' they had only liked them because it was the pop music of the mid 90's.
Metal may have lost it's glory days of the 80's but in the long run metal will always prevail! \m/
I just saw AiC and Helloween this summer.... no picture needed, pumpkins united rule
AiC isn’t really a Grunge band though lol. They’re considered Grunge just because they came out around the same time as Nirvana started to get bigger but they are more Metal than Grunge.
Joshua Ibarra you’re not wrong in saying Alice In Chains isn’t Grunge, but they all broke around the world and were introduced at the same time..Just as Pantera were a “80’s metal band” just marketed different after the fact, Alice In Chains sorta the same deal. Out of all the big “90’s Grunge” bands the band that made noise the most before Grunge was even a genre would have been Sound Garden I do believe
@@metalheadgamer80 AIC is The same shit
Because grunge had like 10 successful bands and most of them stopped making music
'80s metal musicians and especially fans think that for a music to be "alive" it has to be on top of the charts, what a load of bullshit. Most of these guys were still millions of records during the whole "alternative rock" years, fewer millons of records than before that's for sure, but still millions of records. Who cares. I prefer the music I'm into to be underground anyway.
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It wasnt Kurt’s intention to destroy anything. Kurt’s only intention was to play punk rock music. The world kinda came to him. Metal heads need to chill.
inutero10 Bullshit, he openly talked about destroying what he dubbed “fake” rock, and shat on nearly everybody who made music prior to 1990. He signed to a major label, he went to the world, get it straight.
@@hellsunicorn a mediocre genre like grunge is dead....metal still reigns in the world of good music.....kurt cobain was a man without balls....who took away his life when he reached his peak.
@Maggie sa No it didn't dopey, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden were releasing their best material during the late 80s and early 90s, and there was plenty of exciting thrash metal going on that was way better than Metallica's derivative, corporatized garbage. If you want to mouth off about metal, know what you're talking about, idiot.
@@hellsunicorn crap. What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
@@inutero10 Fair enough, I was looking for good music, and Kurt's political ramblings and constant casting of aspersions at everyone else (which was amplified by the entertainment media of the day) made it more difficult to find it.
I don't think nirvana really destroyed metal. I dont even think metal has been destroyed. Just in sort of a crossroads between its older glorydays and hopefully new days of glory will arise like europe in the middle ages. 70s and 80s were like ancient Greece and Rome next is hopefully a new colonial spain, england and france, Kurts music might have made the more punk ish stuff popular compared to metal but metal was still doing good until probably when Dimebag died.
Metal, in the abstract, was never destroyed, in fact it flourished in much of Europe throughout the 90s. However, as a commercially viable art form in North American, Grunge basically sucked up all the oxygen. Furthermore, Dimebag Darrel gets way too much credit simply because Pantera was one of the few American metal acts to still sell well in America, not to mention Pantera hadn't done shit for years and Dimebag's newer band Damageplan was scraping the bottom of the nu-metal barrel.
Grunge made rock boring. And all the radio stations were ordered not to play metal. One big psyop
Bullshit. We just weren't trying to watch assholes in makeup and platform shoes back then. We could relate to the guys in Nirvana and the music was hard af for the time.
@@kingebeneezer7986 Helloween, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest never wore makeup, nor did most of the NWOBHM. Grunge was a disease, as are the people who pushed it on the rest of us back then.
Yeah 😊
HEAVY METAL STILL ALIVE! THE GRUNGE DIED FOR YOUR'S DEPRECTIONS PEOPLE!
what if we destroy this fucking techno r&b metal idk what to call it anymore, with yet again another grunge???
Pantera saved Metal moment in 90s.
unfortunately for kai hansen , kurt kobain was a huge maiden and priest fan , grunge didn' t kill metal " bleach " and " nevermind " were fucking metal in sound but punk in attitude and lyrics , and no he shouldn't have killed himself earlier ...
Nothing more unsettling than a German dude talking about a band called holocaust
no talks about either one anymore only this rap crap or country.
He looks and sounds like Tom G Warrior if Tom G Warrior weren't a bitter, miserable old drama queen.
Well it wasn’t like he was trying to create some new wave or a new era. It’s not that deep. He was just writing and making music. Nothing more or less
I did not like grunge at all
But there some really good bands
Soundgarden and Pearl Jam
Dave Grohl should listen to that.
Grunge did not kill heavy metal, ProTwells / AmateurTools did (aka ProTools).
Once they started sampling, triggering, automating, manipulating, over-processing,
loudness-maximizing and hyper-compressing the living hell out of the music,
that is when the genre died for me.
Metal bands caused their own downfall by commercializing their sound,
lowering the quality of their music and running out of creativity.
cheers, I have very similar opinion ... never cared about genres like grunge, nu-nu-metal etc. ... but why should I insult them for the fact (i.h.h.o) that metal went down after 80's
nope you can use pro- tools and still sounds metal,dont be hurt but kurt destroyed the hair metal and headbangers ball.
@@jorgepaul5049 not nope. Yep.
Nirvana's roots were in punk and sounded punk not rusty old metal.
Ronald Raygun hahahahaha
they weren't fucking punks, they were shit done by punks named grunge. punk rock is all the way better than those shitheads called nirvana.
permaveg no. Kurt hated most punk bands. And they thought of them selfs as new wave or grunge. pretty much nobody thinks there a metal band. There a grunge band looks it up people
Hahaha drop a comment when youve heard kurt hit a fucking high note like Sebastian Bach or Jack Russell! Fucking depressed 14 year old girl, yeah thats what you are!
They weren't punk. Even Cobain said that they sounded more like Motley Crue than a punk band.
Oh I Love Them ❤
Grundge did not kill rock. Grundge was born from it. Just like rock was born from blues.
Rock is still live and well.
Now it is alternative
nirvana didnt destroy heavy metal, METALLICA did
LMAO WHAT
Eh, Metallica didn’t help, but overall I’d say Nirvana, and more specifically the Grunge promotion machine pushed by the labels and the media tried, and ultimately failed to kill metal.
My god. Grunge was full of snobish bullshit. That crying and depressing music genre is dead and buried since 1996. The only thing that killed grunge was his own heroes Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, Chris Cornell.
Kurt Cobain did not kill or even graze heavy metal. He killed a form of glam pop that was pretending to be metal, and I am grateful for it
There were plenty of heavier rock and metal acts that were negatively impacted by the grunge craze, and Gamma Ray was one of them. Albums like Black Hand Inn and Land Of The Free were basically the underground resistance at the time against the tide of grunge imitators seeping into Europe.
Furthermore, glam was on its way out a couple years before anybody knew about Nirvana outside of Seattle. Thrash was supplanting it in the late 80s, and you’ll note that thrash took a nosedive beginning in 1992 thanks the Kurt.
No dude glam is metal and it rocks just like thrash and power metal
@Kzed if you’re talking about bands like poison or warrant then yes I agree. Motley Crue, whitesnake, Cinderella, dokken, wasp etc. were great though.
@Kzed also I’d like to add that glam metal had some of the best lead guitarists out of any metal sub genre.
@Kzed I’m glad we could more or less agree with each other on something lol
Nirvana killing metal is bullshit alice in chains was metal and popular soundgarden was a bit metal and was popular the melvins got signed to a major label and were semi popular nirvana said they liked celtic frost and black sabbath also they covered unleashed bleach was a kinda sludge metal scentless apprentice was kinda metal pantera had a number 1 album in march 1994 ozzy and metillica had huge albums in 1991 and invited nirvana to tour with them so did gnr just because that glam shit and power metal shit was not popular doesnt mean that metal got killed thats stupid
kai.you are the fucking man of all this fucking shit hahahaha best compositor.....
First time i saw Smells like teen spirit video clip in 1991 i said wtf is this crap? Next day it became famous and people kept talking about Nirvana and then come Pearl jam. Sound garden, talking about metal bands is not cool anymore.
Grunge brought punk rock metal more mainstream
THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN
Nirvana had nothing to do with the metal scene. There are 2 completly different things. And also metal community is very close minded and it only destroys itself not by the other music scenes. I don't say that all metalheads are like that but a good part of it yes.
Until now I was a fan of Kai Hansen
Oh grow up, it was clearly a joke, and Kurt Cobain was a shitty musician and human being anyway.
@@hellsunicorn i hope you go to hell
peach bluntz Nah, being around Kurt for eternity ain’t my bag. lol
@@hellsunicorn nice reply :d
same, never liked Gamma Ray anyway.
he screw everything, alternative, punk, grunge, garage and of course heavy metal
Totally agree...grunch destroyed heavy metal...
For a reason that I ignore, music producteurs who are mostly jewish hate heavy metal...
Age old myth: Grunge killed heavy metal, bullshit! Why’s metal still around? It never died or will. Grunge faded out years ago.
I like helloween man, but times change. The US is always more trend driven, metal has always been popular in Europe, especially traditional metal. Blaming Kurt cobain is just dumb and irrelevant, helloween would have never been commercially successful in the US regardless.
"helloween would have never been commercially successful in the US regardless." That isn't true. Helloween was so succesfull in the late 80's even in the U.S. that MTV presented tours for them in 1987 and 1989!
Stupid suicide joke is stupid. Besides-blaming it all on Nirvana is to be ignorant of all the factors involved back then. Hair bands and metal were played out. Where else could they go? Malmsteen played before millions in Russia. The genre had peaked and was bound to be replaced by something different. That's just how it goes. Rock and roll had forty years of popularity. Most of what it was saying just wasn't as relevant anymore. It was time for other genres to step into the mainstream. Besides-I thought music was all about the message and not about the money? If you're a good band you can still tour and earn a living making music. You just won't get rich doing it.
Heavy metal is still alive and well and grunge is dead. I did love Mother love bone and Alice in chains though. It died a fast death too. They were all hooked on heroin in a rainy city no wonder they were depressed.
AGUANTE NIRVANA !!!!!
Nirvana's Bleach still is a seriously heavy punk/metal record. The old school dinosaur metal bands on MTV at the time simply couldn't compete with Nirvana's soaring melodies
Pete STUART lol, soaring melodies? Compared to Gamma Ray? Surely you jest
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This is spot on. Cobain had almost the melodic ability of Lennon.
@@annejizzle889 He's not wrong. Not even if he's talking about Bleach, what a great album.
If you were like 18 years of age in 1990, you could actually feel the changes. Thrash was at its peak and death and and a few black metal bands was on the rise. Very interesting good times. Heavy metal and hard rock was pretty much uninteresting by then.
30 years ago nirvana were average
Courtney killed Kurt. Nirvana are one of the greatest bands ever conceived 🖤 I love metal but I love Nirvana up there with The Beatles 🇬🇧
Nor with the Dragon Balls. 🤣🤣🤣
I remember when I saw Kurt's solos and screams like a donkey in Brazil. 😂😂😂
Cobain is only a U.S.american product who showed the stupidity in that nation.
Man this guy needs to be more self-aware. 80's heavy metal died because it became fucking repetitive, cookie cutter and vanilla by the end of the decade. Nirvana wasn't complex or difficult to play, but at least it felt genuine and honest. Blaming the death of hair metal on Kurt Cobain is stupid beyond belief.
genuine and honest? lolol that's a good one, you must write for SNL you NPC.
Yeah dude, Kurt was being really genuine and honest writing a song where he repeatedly swore he didn't have a gun...oops, total fucking lie when April of 1994 rolled around. lol