How to Win at Craps: Interview with the World's Greatest Dice Control Shooter! • The Jackpot Gents
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Steve and Matt Bourie, from the American Casino Guide book, interview Dominic LoRiggio, a controlled dice throwing expert who was featured on the History Channel's "Breaking Vegas" series as one of the world's most successful craps players.
Dominic is known as "the Dominator" in gambling circles where he has made a gigantic impact on casino craps players with his dice control classes and seminars, which he teaches across the country. Here are the topics discussed in the video and their time codes.
0:00 Introduction to Dominic LoRiggio and his background in casino gambling
6:30 How controlled dice shooting works
14:30 Dominic's discusses his biggest wins - and losses
18:31 Demonstration - How to set the dice, where to stand, where to aim your throw
43:00 The bets to make at the craps table
43:50 Some people don't believe it works - are they right?
45:37 The math behind controlled dice shooting
48:20 How do casinos ban you for winning at craps?
50:30 Which is better? Card counting or controlled dice shooting?
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Dom is a genius. When he explains all of the physics behind the mechanics of playing the game of craps, it makes all the sense in the world. Outstanding stuff!
Last year I was in Vegas, my return flight got canceled, so I had to stay another night in Vegas. I tried to find a cheap room, ended up staying at Sahara Casino hotel. I went to the craps table that night, after about 15 minutes of playing a guy showed up. He had a dice control out of this world !!
He didn't throw 7 for about 1 hour. He made like $20k, I made $8k, all people made thousands of dollars at that table. It was crazy !!!
There's a story that Phil Ivey told about a 3 hour dice session without sevening out!
I was a supervisor on the 4 hour roll at Borgata. The shooter sadly only made a pittance. But the majority of other people left winning thousands if not tens of thousands. It was a low limit table. People who would actually bet to win weren't there. Instead of more people coming up to the table mid roll. One of the dealers was new and inexperienced. Six players were allowed on each side. That's it. The experienced players wanted to come join in, but sorry, the table is full.
There is not the ability to stand next to the stick every time, you're not allowed to switch spots to shoot the dice. As long as you HIT THE WALL, you're more than welcome to shoot for as long as you can. Hit the wall, and NO MOOCHING. If you want to give another player money for a good shot, good for you, good for him/her. But to make the dealers work the whole time, and not give them ANYTHING, is a joke. Tipping the dealers GOES TO THE DEALERS(NOT THE HOUSE) Dealers are there to help make the gaming experience ENJOYABLE. Dealers make their living on tips, and WANT YOU TO WIN. like a waitress or a bartender. To be so ignorant as to say "I'll tip when I'm done" would be similar to expect a waitress to see if you need another drink,without tipping her is a joke. Drinks are usually free, so making a waitress get your drinks and bring them to the table without even recognizing that is simply ignorant. MY OPINION ONLY, but being in the casino business for over 35 years, I know more than this person selling his formula. But, good for him, and good for you if you can take hints from this, but NOT CARE about the people(dealers) booking your bets, paying your bets while making sure your bets are paid ACCURATELY and not take care of them, shows a selfish inconsiderate mentality.
Simply an opinion from someone who is in facebook jail for his 32nd 30 day sentence, for having an opinion...
@@donaldmankow all the dealers split the tips, so you tip $5, they get maybe a few cents.
Interesting guest! Thanks for being the kind of channel that goes a bit deeper into gambling and sharing how players try to win.
Lots if respect for Dom. Taken a few of his classes over the years. It works!
Hey Joe how can I get in touch with Don?
I took a dice class in 2002 in Vegas and Dom was one of the instructors. Glad to see he is still looking well.
How much was the class you took?
@@Scotty__ ---> $1,800 I think.
@@amphibdriver1 that's nuts.
Lol they don't have to gamble bc they are making money from fools lol
Consider it the same as paying tuition at a college. You are paying to learn a skill or vocation.
Love it! Love seeing the Dom in his element! I watched the original documentary on Beating Vegas back in the day. Great stuff!
Great interview. Really enjoyed hearing the background information on his life experiences in Black Jack and Craps. I enjoy going to casinos, as well, and find it very fun and entertaining. Thank you.
i can't believe i am older then Dominic. watching his you tube shows were a big help in for my self to enjoy craps play and win a lot. i had to learn to throw right handed, i found that my throws were straighter then throws left handed.
Great and informative video! You represented both sides of the Dice control controversy, but let him explain his techniques.
Ignore the crazy people on here! This was a fantastic interview and your integrity is 100% intact! Thank you for the content
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Awesome work guys. Interesting, educational and entertaining. Thank you!👍👏
Would like to thank the " Dom", it was the first time using the grip and tips he talked about in a video. I usually pass on being a shooter, but using his tips for the first time resulted in my longest throw ever!, ( about half an hour ). It felt great making some money, especially for the other players, the guy next to me kept fist bumping me after every roll, making point!, thanks again Dom
Great interview with Dominic LoRiggio! His views on dice got me started. My best roll betting on a FireBet was 5 Points ( total of 11 points that were not different). I started with $22 in hand at the start of my roll. I had $10 Pass, $5 FireBet, $5 Field, and $1Pass - $1 FireBet on the Dealers. 90 minutes later I hit the 5th FireBet at 3:45 AM. I made less than $1K. After watching this Video - I would have made $20K+. Thanks you guys.
Good on you for throwing a toke for the dealers; I've only played a dozen or so tables and I was the only one that would make a bet for the dealers.
@@garrison7888That is very true. You make better odds on the Place bets than Betting the Come and putting less than 5X odds on the Come bet; and the Place bet can be Turned Off or taken down at any time. The Come bet has to stay on the bet line no matter what.
How is what you say true? The Place bets have a 1.5% edge on the 6/8. Dom clearly explains in the interview how a Come bet with even just 1X Odds has a house edge of just 0.84%.
If it isn’t the Dice Dominator! I was waiting for this crossover! It’s important to note one of the core tenets of dice control: marginally reducing the amount of 7s that are rolled is mathematically enough to reduce and/or overcome the house advantage.
Hey Sumthang678,
The concept of " marginally reducing the amount of 7s that are rolled is mathematically enough to reduce and/or overcome the house advantage" is sound. However, overcoming all of the variables that determine what
number will be rolled is impossible thereby rendering the concept wishful thinking.
I played crabs over 50 years you can slide them but seven is coming
I don't see no gold or diamonds not successful
Excellent content on craps... I've just been watching vid after vid on Craps and this one is great
This was awesome guys. Really appreciate you. Color up ;)
It seems to me nowadays most people who go to Casinos have some kinda system they imploy trying to beat the odds? It fun to try to increase you odds even on all games which affects your comps. Enjoyed the interview. Dom was convinced!
I've been following this method for several years and can say you don't win all the time, but, I've had some serious rolls. One night a man at the table was a Don't player and the first hour or so was terrible - 7 every 3 or 4 rolls, sometimes 2 rolls and this jerk kept howling "I'm winning and you're not" and kept getting loud whenever someone was trying to setup, like a shill trying to keep you off balance. It was a packed table, so took time to move the dice back around to me and it usually takes 3 or 4 hands before I get the feel, so finally it's my 4th hand that session and I zoned in on it - 56 rolls later - crushed all 6 numbers over and over. The don't bettor kept saying its nothing but luck while is bankroll dwindled to nothing while the rest of us were screaming and howling - hit the all-tall-small twice in the same hand and left a happy camper. The Dom is my craps hero - My seven out ratio runs about 8 to 10, but have pulled plenty of 25+ rolls. I'm a local Las Vegas guy retired and fly low and slow...
Nice work getting The Dominator for this!
Doms the man. Great interview
It’s like shooting free throws. If you go from 70% average to 85%, you’ll win tons more games. Same concept. Practice and incremental gains.
It’s like anything... You have to put in the work and most people just don’t.
My second watch of this interview, valuable info imo. The alligator skin randomizes the dice and casinos do not care about the dice being set. That is the answer I have gotten when asking. My belief is the random dice rotation can be controlled with dice setting. I know some casinos do not allow dice setting and they must have a reason for it. Matt really broke down all aspects of craps, maybe a live craps video is in the future? Sorry to see there will no longer be an ACG book, I appreciate all the great deals I had found in your book through the years. I will download the app instead.
if theres a casino that doesnt allow dice setting its because its a waste of time .
I'm a believer! I started to learn craps about 15 years ago after reading 3 or 4 books. I believe in setting because I just paid attention to all the successful shooters and noticed over time that most set the dice and pretty much did the same thing over snd over again. And like Dom said, didn't just chuck them down to the other end slamming into stacks of chips. It's just a better way to roll the dice and it has helped my game enormously. I didn't learn this from anyone, just my own observation over the years. But everything Dom said rang true! My tip, like Dom said, don't play the center bets! They will eat you up over time. Playing craps is the most fun you can have in a casino! And thank you to ACG for all the great videos!
I agree
I agree...except for one thing. DO play the center (prop) bets. Just DON'T play them using your money (that you brought with you). Win some money and once you've made a "comfortable" profit, take a FEW chances on the prop bets. WHEN they hit, and they WILL hit, the payout is worth the extra investment out of your winnings. I wouldn't suggest going crazy on them, but a $4 Horn or a $1 Hard Way every once in a while when you're already $200+ in profit won't hurt you.
Speaking of dice control, there is a slot machine I play on that let's you control the spin during the bonus. Normally you click a button and the RNG has already preselected something for you before the spin stops (usually small of course), but this particular slot machine you controlled the spinner. I won a cool $1000 from it.
Dominic is a phenomenal dice player. I came across his information on dice thru Mr. Frank Scoblete's books. Nonetheless, I believe that the title of the "Greatest Dice Player" belongs to the "Captain", using his SuperSystem method of betting.
OK oscar, i will bite,what is the captain's Super System.?
I agree with the dominator, put in the time and you will improve. It took me four months to get the advantage and was coming home with $$ in my pockets and comps. now i go to Vegas three times a year and shoot okay but not like when i did five years ago...it was fun.
Hey Manuel,
What are you saying? It took you four months of practice to "get the advantage" but now after practising you do not throw as well as you did five years ago. This does not sound like an endorsement for dice control.
@@geekin3159 five years ago i stopped practicing and my roll now average from 12 to 20 rolls. When i was on the gane, i came many times to hitting the 60 roll goal at the fremont.
@ also wife got very sick and had to xare for her...now i am 65 years old...
thank you for the interview
Dom, when will you be in Vegas again!! I want to be there!!
Good Video : First one I seen that mentions position a Must do for control . Stick Right for right handers is my spot :) I have been beating craps game for many years as once you have a Setting ability ( much harder to learn than just position ) you can develop various Betting Strategies for your abilities / Your correct that a role that just kisses the wall and drops with little bounce is key to controlling the outcome . Most good shooters don't bet big they have other involved for that
The first time I ever heard anything about dice control was when I saw the History Channel Breaking Vegas video about Dom (on TH-cam). CHANGED MY LIFE!! I have become a 10x better craps player since then. Months of study and over a year of daily practice for hours at a time have helped me develop an amazing throw that has shown me better results than any I've seen (in person) so far! Learning to shoot in a way that extends my rolls has not only improved my game, it has improved my focus and discipline in ALMOST every aspect of my life. It reminds me of when I played sports when I was younger. The desire to get better each day has relit the fires of ambition and determination in me that had previously reduced to smoldering embers. I'm so grateful that I can't across his video shortly after I started learning craps strategies and playing the game again. I will continue to improve until I make as much of an impact on the fraud community as he has. ✊🏾😎
As usual, informative to the max!
I'm ready for a class . Very interesting.
learning the game of craps, had some good random rolling and tried this and have had some good success. seems like the rolls are a little longer and more frequent. with less point 7's .physically and mathematically it makes sense. great video!
Hey Don I've had some luck throwing but have seen some that are great one-hour rolls plus twice.. I'd love to learn more
I thoroughly enjoyed this one! I love me some craps 💩
Great interview
Dom is truely a great person first and shooter!
Another great video gentleman
Glad you enjoyed it!
How can you throw against the flat part of the back wall if the wall is really curved? I’ve noticed that every table I’ve seen at a casino has a curve in the back wall if shooting down the “runway” of the pass line. You would almost need to reach your arm out to the come area to have a perpendicular shot at the flat part of the back wall. But that would cause your body to be out of position. Any suggestions or tips?
Dom wasn’t the only one highlighted on the history channel who didn’t cheat. They did episodes on Ken Uston and Tommy Hyland as well.
And Ed Thorp. Who could forget him.
9:00 Spain actually 😬 The Los Pelayos are amazing 😆
I’m new to craps and I lost a few times and I really enjoy the game I watched the video and I practiced dice control and I set the dice after watching the video I had them tell me I had to pass the dice because apparently we were winning I never seen that happen until it happen to me granted I deff a new player
I had that happen too me in a casino in Vegas. They complained about how long I took to shoot the dice. Their REAL issues was that everyone at the table was winning so much money that a free players has passed up to table max and we winning at that level for over 15 minutes. When my roll was over, I just called out and left.
Enjoyed the interview. Personally, I refer to it as dice influencing not controlling. Its just a different term and the outcome is the same. I enjoy the game and have fun thinking I am influencing the dice if I am or not.
Good way to look at it. Maybe some influence to it and why not try, I suppose.
For the ppl who don't get it it's not dice control. Instead it's seeking to successfully reduce the built in pure randomness element (Highly Profitable for the Casino. Seeing how they have the number 7 with the most possible combinations covered. Which has the highest odds of being rolled after the Comeout or the Point is established. If we are dealing in terms of pure randomn rolls or pure luck or chance. Which is the exact way the house wants dummies to roll the dice. For painfully obvious reasons.
Now for example if one is using the hardway set with 5's on top & 3's facing the back wall 2's on the bottom & 4's facing you or the non shooting end opposite back wall. And you are using this same dice set up. Fingers in same location & pressure. Same landing zone practice & actual Casino table Experience. And you notice after a while a pattern of. Let's say hard 6 being the most frequent hardway number that you roll. Out of all the other hardways on the set or period. Or you notice a pattern of the 6 coming hard (3,3) about 50% of the time on average compared to the soft 6. You mean to tell me one can't come up with a strategy to capitalize off of this info or pattern? That's note not occurring randomly at all.
Or for example one notices that most of the numbers being rolled (The current Pattern/Patterns.) With that hardway dice set up. Is the inside box numbers. With maybe 1 or a couple 4's & 10's being rolled. So one can't use this Non completely random info. To now mainly only bet the inside numbers? Once again it's not dice control it's successfully seeking to reduce the built in Completely random element. That is profitable to the house & not the players. AKA making bets not completely in the dark or BASED off completely random rolls & dice set ups. Ppl also always forget basic facts such as. If a human mind or minds thought it up. Then a human mind or minds can also find the cracks or human manmade flaws that are sure to exist within the manmade developed system. We talking about a imperfect being in regards to the developers of Casino craps & the Players. Yet folks talking like they playing against God or something. The house has already psychologically defeated you.
I like rythmic rolling better. Can we bring that term back?
Ived. Been shooting dice for 20 yrsand i can shoot 12 and 3 and two easy cake walk
what you really want to do is get those dice as close to back wall as low as possible without rebounding , the pit bosses will yell at you to hit the back wall. The back wall with that corrugated surface will put a random finish on roll of dice. You can also get away with flopping the dice short a few times, and get hard ways. Everyone will yell at table, and will riot if pit boss tries to take that roll away from you. They kept yelling "hit the back wall Jack". Someone called me and I said my name. It wasn't Jack. Pit boss said no wonder you aren't hitting the back wall, your name isn't Jack !
I had folks bet bets in my honor. thats kind of cool. Did a dollar yo once on a strong feeling and won that too.
I have to admit when I see these dice control guys at the table I kind of chuckle. I wish they would practice how to shoot faster.
Good interview. Very interesting.
After watching a few videos about dice control, I have come to the conclusion that individuals who endorse dice control have no comprehension of the concept of randomness. My comments on dice control hopefully will provide an understanding that dice control is not improbable but impossible. Some individuals stress the importance of maintaining the same axis on the dice when tossing them. It does not matter whether or not the same axis is maintained. There are so many other variables to consider in the toss:
-how much force is used
-how high the dice are tossed
-where the dice strike the table before contacting the back wall
-where the dice strike the back wall
-which pyramid and which part of the pyramid each die strikes
-where each die comes to rest
-how many bounces and turns each die completes before coming to rest
-how many chips the dice encounter
-how firm/soft/bouncy is the table
-etc.
If a player is unable to control just one of these variables, he will be unable to
practise dice control. In an attempt to convince others of the possibility of dice control, I would like to see just one proponent of dice control to create a video recorded in slow motion which documents the action of the dice on each toss I.e. record the results relating to all of the variables mentioned above
I have a suggestion. Use two different coloured dice, one red and one green.
Let’s make it even easier. Assume that on each toss, the red always shows a five. Now the shooter simply has to control the green die and have it show any
number other than a two to avoid the dreaded seven out. Conduct this experiment over many thousands of rolls to more closely simulate results due to probability and graph how often the seven appears. If a sufficient number of rolls are made, then the seven should appear in the ratio of once every six rolls. If the ratio is much less than 1:6 a player may insist that he is controlling the dice. However, remember in the example the red die is already fixed (controlled) by setting it on the five. In the videos posted on line, there are an insufficient number of rolls to describe any longer roll to be dice controlled.
I have watched videos in which after the creator of the video sevens out, he tries to explain the seven by claiming he did something wrong on the toss. Truly moronic behaviour.
Remember Patricia Demauro? In May 2009 the grandmother played at the Borgota in Atlantic City and rolled the dice 154 times (over four hours) to set the record for the longest roll. Was she controlling the dice? No!!! This was only her second time to shoot craps.
There will be short rolls and there will be long rolls. No one can predict whether a roll will be short or long. Only Lady Luck knows.
Proponents of dice control are delusional!
@Walliam Shitner
Walliam,
I don't understand what you are trying to say in your final sentence. Please elaborate.
Thanks
@Walliam Shitner
Walliam, no need to encourage me since I know that I am right. I am hopeful that my postings will enlighten newbies especially and others who are easily misled and to induce them to analyze more critically the absurd claims made by wannabe "controllers." If they digest my comments about the many variables that affect the outcome of dice tosses, they hopefully will realize that dice control is IMPOSSIBLE and that claims uttered by "controllers" are made without any sensible, logical, believable, data to substantiate their claims.
By the way Walliam, you did not attempt to address the questions that I posed to you about your fantastic feat i.e. where and when you accomplished the three incredible rolls of 500 plus
I know that such an accomplishment would have been documented. I am sure that other "controllers"
would love to know your secret! Surely you could assist them in improving their own skills. I really don't
expect you to reply to my queries; imagine if you couldn't substantiate your claims how your credibility
would be shattered. On the other hand, if you did respond and substantiated your claims imagine how your
status would be elevated and the adulation you'd earn for yourself! You'd be more renowned that Patricia Demauro!
Walliam, I will continue in my efforts to make "Walliam Shitner" a household name.
When playing craps on a cruise ship, does the fact that the ship is floating on the water and could cause the table to roll and therefor affect the dice/shooter?
Without having shit on a cruise, I would assume it does. I would still use a controlled throw just to decrease the effect of being in a moving ship.
The short answer, yes, however it is not a uniform thing and mostly not because the table is moving. Remember, the table really does not move that much... it is the entire ship or the shooter that is moving and the table is much more stable than a shooter due to mass and the fact it is not balanced on 2 legs. By "not uniform" I mean it depends on certain factors, for instance the larger the ship the less the wave action moves the ship, or more likely moves the shooter as opposed to the smaller day cruise ships. Put another way, imagine trying to shoot with people bumping into you (which happens during waves on smaller ships but mostly it is the shooter swaying because of the wave action on the day cruises).
Hi Dom, I really wish that people that want to become better at this by either betting or shooting to listen to your advice and take your training, I'll take your training next year hopely. I bought all your books and watched all your videos, and more importantly I can see the big different in my throw and making money in the casino.If I have listen just to you in here in youtube, I'd been where I'm today with my throwing and betting long time ago and even better if I have taking your lessons.....
It's true if you can focus on the toss, you can extend your chances. If you could train on your own table you're one step ahead of the game.
Hi, Don you put back or forward spin?
I enjoy craps but have had no luck. I think the most rolls I’ve made is 7 maybe 8. Usually it’s 4-5
Off topic question, i was wondering if the odds for a natural four of a kind are different on dueces wild vs double double? I seem to get soooo many natural 4 of a kinds when i play dueces but hardly get them in double double.
The odds of getting dealt a four-of-a-kind are the same in both games. As far as drawing to four-of-a-kind, I would assume that you get them less often in deuces wild because in many hands you are holding a deuce, along with the pair, or three-of-a-kind that you are drawing to.
@@TheJackpotGents thats what i figured since you’re pulling from a deck of 52, i just get trolled so much when i switch from double double to dueces where i’ll just get dealt a natural 4 of a kind or hold 3 and get the 4th ace but hardly ever in double double lol
I’m a craps players there’s card counting dice control but also edging cards rip 20 million$ of Phil Iveys money. It’s why golfers/ tennis players have great Hand eye coordination Dice control is significantly harder now, I can tell you personally I’ve seen the progression of how it is in last 8 yrs of gambling. Went from 2/3 hr rolls to 40/60 rolls to one hr rolls 20/40 rolls...borgata has the longest tables if ur. not over 6 ft it’s hard to control dice w. Long tables. This is a great interview and you start getting flagged on the tables is credibility. Or banned. U can request why uve been flagged when I got flagged in biloxi I was told u can also tell w. How pit bosses look at you dealers etc. ... I haven’t seen dominator roll when he was in NC I’d like to see. Emptying a fill 6 times depending where he’s playing is close to 3/5 mil. I’ve been in Patricias shoes. Bogata loves advertising the 4 hr roll but they only give out 30 k to the highest player r u kidding me... That 🤮
In their "Argument" of when the Casino identifies a card counter or set dice roller. What they did not mention is the Card counter gets noticed by the style of the betting. In order for them to make the system work they have to increase their bets when the count is in their favor, If you are betting $25 a hand for 2 hours it's not going to benefit you card counting. You have to increase your bet to say $100 or $200 to make it work. That's the big tell tale!
This is perfectly legal and not cheating. The roller controls the dice and if he or she can roll without rolling a Seven frequently is a skill they developed.
The Casinos have no right to complain or say it’s cheating because it’s not. It’s skill!
But of course they are going to ban him because he beats them consistently.
I think it makes them look petty and bad. If you have plenty of gamblers losing money regularly, why can’t they tolerate one winner?
They don’t want anyone to win? Ever? Then no one should play either!
He figured out how to win so they should be quiet. And take their losses. They have more than enough people losing regularly to cover one winner.
I commend him!
The Casinos should have more class and respect winners. Not ban them.
Not all dice controllers, control to have less 7s. Some of us play don't bass by ourselves at odd hours of the morning controlling to hit 7s after controlling the come out to not hit a 7 or 11.
I'm still trying to understand the Come bet thing. I have done well playing just the inside numbers with a place bet (5,6,8,9) and playing the Pass Line and odds on the Pass bet I guess if you have a known statistical edge then you would do better to just play come bets or at least make your bank a little bit faster
It always works except when it doesn’t work 😊
That History Channel program with Dominic was awesome; too bad he got banned.
You don't need to explain everything he says. He communicates very well and makes sense in everything he says and does not need an explanation.
Playing the side bets Make em all, all Small, and all Tall, I throw out a $5 and a $1 chip and bet $2 on each end one in the middle and a buck for the dealers on their end of choice. One night doing this, the next night, a dealer told me I had made them like $180 tip to share up, just by myself. Plus when you tip, the other players tip too. No one was tipping to speak of. My tipping broke the ice. More often than occasionally I can miss that back wall and they let it slide. lets just say, They seem to be a little more forgiving of infractions.
long as you don't roll sevens, then you are potentially winning. Unless you are a dark side player. I'm sure you can spin the dice to increase your chances (negate some of the house edge) but if it was easy, everyone would be doing it. Good interview with a professional gambler. To be honest, it is the same as any craps betting system in that it doesn't work 100% of the time.
Electronic craps tables are casinos' latest tool to deter effective dice setting. Now the tabletops are hard sections of plastic with seams at different levels that result in bouncing dies going in every direction.
The game moves so fast. Is there a quick way to "set dice" without it being noticed?
Any 2 opposite sides of a die equals 7 so a glance at the cube let's you know where it needs to be with practice this can be done very quickly. Once the dice are set, use the controlled toss you practiced.
No casino will kick you out for dice setting. Because it doesn’t have statistical evidence behind it actually working…
GRET video, GREAT interview!!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks
Has anyone seen the dice move in slow motion? They scramble around like eggs once they hit the table.
Lots of superstition in gambling. Just let them set their dice. ;)
No they dont. The scramble like eggs after the hit the alligator wall. Someone on here has posted a super slow motion toss. It is on youtube.
Isn’t thrower required to throw from stick left to right wall. Across the Bobby of th stick man???
For the Non believers it like Pro basketball players on the free throw line.. You have your Shaquille O'Neals (which the casinos love) and then you have the Steph Currys (which will probably get you banned) You have to have talent and a lot of practice along with all the distractions in the Casino. Many hours of work and dedication is involved.
Haha, funny you mentioned Shaq. Years back, an engineering professor I was taking some review classes from told a story about a statistician friend of hers.
He noticed that Shaq, while holding a low free-throw % overall, had discernible patterns for hot/cold streaks, uncovered by whatever analysis method he used.
So the stats prof would follow the games, and when it looked like Shaq was due for an upswing, dude would bet heavy, and clean up on the long odds thanks to the season or lifetime simple % being low. Apparently made him quite a bit of money.
I don’t know if it’s luck or not but it seems every time i throw the dice and they hit chips they fall on 7.
I think everyone has a tendency to land certain numbers. Maybe it’s some type of mystical connection to a force higher. Or it’s some type of kinetic synergy. Idk for some reason I know if I roll I’m likely to hit a 7 guaranteed. So when I roll a point I get internally worried cause I know I personally have a higher chance to hit 7 cause I typically roll 7 a lot for whatever reason.
I agree. In the first 5 minutes of the interview, it looks like the interviewers eyes glaze over.
Extra income plus entertainment! Good advice.
For those who can remember pre-corp Vegas controllers worked FOR the casinos and blew out everyone, front or back side.
Should you set your dice to 7 because they basically never land on what you set them to 🤔
Last vegas casinos won't let me stack the dice. 10,12,8, 4.. anymore also Wendover and Reno.
Reno will allow you no problem. I’ve thrown stacked before and no issues. Only issue is that you can’t launch the dice up in the air. Has to be eye level or below.
Hello Steve. Hello Matt.
You can actually lower the vig by placing 2 numbers for example place the 6 and 8 9 and 5 do the math vig is lower
You have a guest like Dom so listen to him rather then try to talk about yourself Matt
MIT blackjack team didn't cheat either
If dice control did not exist then there would be no diamond bumper on the end and a requirement to hit it
Well, I went to the casino to prove it, first time it fail, second time I made $1,390. I shoot abt an hr a half. Find your spot. Check how he set up the dice. A guy made over 6k last night when I was shooting.
I will sign up for Dom's course. A national treasure on this subject!
How do you know the tables are all the same even if you control for every other variable
They're not. It's either a soft or hard table. There are different setups.
I’m saying physics doesn’t work like that where you can dice control
Hey Dom,
I will state right from the outset that I am a skeptic of anyone claiming to be able to control the dice. Below I will offer some of my own thoughts regarding the concept of dice control. First I'd like you to explain what you mean when you talk about the 45 degree angle of your dice trajectory. You mention the apex of the arc but you do not clarify to which point you are joining the apex to form the 45 degree angle. It would appear that this would be another variable among the multitude of variables some of which I mention below which affect the outcome of the dice roll. You cannot duplicate the arc that your dice would follow on each roll; therefore, the position of your 45 degree angle would fluctuate.
After watching a few videos about dice control, I have come to the conclusion that individuals who endorse dice control have no comprehension of the concept of randomness or refuse to acknowledge the significance of randomness.
My comments on dice control hopefully will provide an understanding that dice control is not improbable but impossible. Some individuals stress the importance of maintaining the same axis on the dice when tossing them. It does not matter whether or not the same axis is maintained. There are so many other variables to consider in the toss. Here are just a few of the variables:
-how much force is used
-how high the dice are tossed
-where the dice strike the table before contacting the back wall
-where the dice strike the back wall
-which pyramid on the alligator wall and which part of the pyramid each die strikes
-where each die comes to rest
-how many bounces and turns each die completes before coming to rest
-how many chips the dice encounter
-how firm/soft/bouncy is the table
-etc.
If a player is unable to control just one of these variables, he will be unable to
practise dice control. In an attempt to convince others of the possibility of dice control, I would like to see just one proponent of dice control to create a video recorded in slow motion which documents the action of the dice on each toss i.e. record the results relating to all of the variables mentioned above.
I have a suggestion. Use two different coloured dice, one red and one green.
Let’s make it even easier. Assume that on each toss, the red always shows a five. Now the shooter simply has to control the green die and have it show any
number other than a two to avoid the dreaded seven out. Conduct this experiment over many thousands of rolls to more closely simulate results due to probability and graph how often the seven appears. The sample size of the number of tosses must be sufficiently large to render the test reliable. If a sufficient number of rolls are made, then the seven should appear in the ratio of once every six rolls. If the ratio is much less than 1:6 a player may insist that he is controlling the dice. However, remember in the example the red die is already fixed (controlled) by setting it on the five.
I have watched videos in which after the creator of the video sevens out, he tries to explain the seven by claiming he did something wrong on the toss. Truly moronic behaviour.
Remember Patricia Demauro? In May 2009 the grandmother played at the Borgota in Atlantic City and rolled the dice 154 times (over four hours) to set the record for the longest roll. Was she controlling the dice? No!!! This was only her second time to shoot craps.
There will be short rolls and there will be long rolls. No one can predict whether a roll will be short or long. Lady Luck is your friend and only she determines how successful/unsuccessful a player's roll will be.
Dom, I would welcome a response from you or any other viewers in which you address my thoughts on controlling variables which affect the outcome of a roll of the dice.
Read his books, watch his videos. He explains it all
@Walliam Shitner
Walliam,
I really enjoyed reading your reply. It made me laugh! Many individuals who post replies are grammatically challenged and unable to articulate their ideas coherently. It is often difficult (even IMPOSSIBLE, here's that word again) to determine the point that they are attempting to convey.
Me delusional? Hardly! I'm as sane as all of the patients in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest."
LOL (right back at you)!
I do not dread ending up in a nuthouse. Someone would have to achieve the IMPOSSIBLE and prove me
wrong to achieve that end.
Walliam, did you read my comment about Patricia Demauro who is credited with having the longest roll
on record - 154 over four plus hours? Your bests of 550, 521, and 514 rolls are over three times longer than
Patricia's. Did you roll for over twelve hours to accomplish these heights? Were there any others playing with you? Where did you accomplish these feats? Surely your accomplishments would have been documented somewhere! Is anyone out there aware of your monster rolls?
I'd like to know the whole story. Please enlighten the rest of the craps world; this is fascinating! How can one actually hope to disguise the techniques that you employ to succeed as you claim?
Finally, what do you mean by the words "another algorithm to ferret out and red flag an unusual statistic?"
Can you clarify precisely in detail what you mean by this so that there is no doubt in any reader's mind what it is exactly that you are attempting to say?
Looking forward to hearing back from you.
@Walliam Shitner
Hey William,
Thanks for responding. The tone in parts of your reply indicates clearly that I managed to touch a nerve. I love it! I'm very disappointed that you did not bother to answer the questions that I posed to you in my last
posting. Your reluctance to answer the questions suggests to me that you are afraid to name the casino where you accomplished your incredible feats of magic, give the dates, etc. because you knows that these
things can be documented. If your claims proved to be untrue (even merely exaggerated), what would that do to your credibility! Anyone can make outlandish claims if he doesn't have to substantiate them. By substantiating the claims that you utter you will only enhance your status in the gambling world especially
among craps players. By refusing to provide details (as I requested), others will conclude that you are simply blowing smoke. A common response from individuals like you is, "I don't care!" You know this is such a copout!
I am sure that others including Dom would love an opportunity to chat with you and learn from you some
tips which would improve their game. Can you imagine giving tips to the Dominator! You might even elevate your status to GOAT of Craps just as Chris Mitchell did for himself in Roulette. Walliam, check out
Mitchell for a good laugh!
I love you guys who entertain me with your humour!
@@jasons1034
Sorry Jason, you just don't get it!
@@geekin3159 I get it and the system just fine. I've used the system successfully. You can stop with the novels
So interesting 👏👏👏👏
He never addressed the house changing the alligator wall. He said it was math when in actuality it is just physics and will only last as long as they don't change the alligator wall.
Thanks
I enjoyed the video. I also think that you need to concentrate on your throw if you want to win at craps. Just don't chuck them to the far wall. Most of the "Fire bet" and "ATS bets" I've seen and won on have been with consistent and controlled shooters. Try to repeat what you do and change up if it doesn't work. I don't have time for a class but doing the things Dom talks about are a good start. Don't be a CHUCKER! Helped my game. And don't bet any of the "carnival" bets!!!
A moving projectile that hits a wall and THEN lands. You can control all you want but when it hits that wall it's all out the window.
He has the magic formula, but he'd rather sit around and talk to these two mopes!🤣That tells you everything you need to know.
In Wendover they don't let you set dice at the caps table.....
Data from Star Trek was the best dice roller ever.
Hahaha, talking about the vigorish... host cuts in with "...now that's short for the vig..."
....no, that's _long_ for the vig.
this was interesting. I just happen to be .1% of the pop that is ambidextrous. I wonder if that gives me an edge.
Best game in US casinos is poker; there is a casino vigorish, but it's a heavily skill based game. You play against other players with the house taking a small amount from the winner. There are some situations when you %100 know you will win before you bet.
Dom has skill & knowledge and is able to carry that out ... Learning a technique of throwing the dice is NOT cheating... To me cheating woul be using loaded dice etc. It's no different than using techniques & skills in Billiards. You learn techniques to have better control of your game. In both games you are playing against yourself because YOU are in control of the game when your rolling the Dice or shooting on a Pool table. Saying he's cheating is like saying someone who's using english on a q-ball is cheating lol
He definitely rolled a 7 the first roll.
Haha yea, he flipped that die over pretty quick, covering his tracks. It’s incredible that people believe this works.